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Ep 28 The Healing Hands of Sister LC: Traditional Remedies in a Modern World

Abiah Season 1 Episode 28

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In this captivating conversation with Sister LC, we journey into the world of holistic healing through the hands of a passionate practitioner dedicated to reclaiming ancestral knowledge. As a certified holistic practitioner for three years, Sister LC shares her extensive expertise in creating natural remedies that serve both her family and community.

The discussion reveals Sister LC's impressive array of handcrafted products - from specialized tea blends addressing everything from gut health to menstrual cycles, to natural soaps, deodorants, and even glycerite medicines specifically formulated for children. Her attention to detail shines as she explains the nuances of proper herbal preparation, noting how different plants require specific steeping methods to extract their full medicinal benefits.

What makes this conversation particularly valuable is Sister LC's balanced approach to holistic healing. She emphasizes that natural remedies aren't one-size-fits-all, stating "just because it works for this person doesn't mean it's going to work for you too." This wisdom reflects her commitment to integrity in her practice, preferring to perfect her formulations before sharing them widely.

Beyond the practical aspects of herbalism, the episode touches on deeper themes of community support and economic independence. Sister LC and her husband (who runs Living Waters Fire Protection) represent a model of self-sufficiency within the Hebrew Israelite community. Their entrepreneurial spirit speaks to the importance of creating sustainable solutions and supporting Black-owned businesses.

As Sister LC powerfully reminds us, "Take care of yourself. You got one body. You got one life." Her work isn't just about selling products—it's about preserving traditional wisdom and empowering others to reclaim control over their health through natural means. Whether you're a seasoned herbalist or simply curious about natural alternatives, this episode offers valuable insights into holistic living from someone who truly walks the talk.

Connect with Sister LC on Facebook to learn more about her products and holistic practices!

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Speaker 1:

find the love, feeling like dory finding nemo. I've been looking, I've been searching. It's supposed to be here and I know it when I see it because I can feel it in the air. But this ain't it. No, this don't even feel right. I've been unplugged from the matrix. I can finally see right. I'm eliminating the sheeple. I need more fierce than neo, the camson of the word for church that's holding all the fetal. He said you don't need their college. I'm trying to feed you knowledge, if you have the ear to hear it.

Speaker 2:

All praises to the most high. What's going on? Y'all, y'all know how it is. Man, it's another. I was about to mess it up again. Y'all my bad, don't even Don't mind me, it's been a long one. We got another one with Sister LC, and this is part two. Let me bring us up on the screen. My bad, y'all my bad. This is part two. Part two, and we spitting our truth. Definitely, man, I'm real big on holistic medicine and stuff like that, and Sister is a holistic practitioner, a certified holistic practitioner. Let me get it right, because she corrected me the last time Like bro, no, this is what it is, and I'm like, okay, like my bad for messing it up. So she is a Certified holistic practitioner and the sister has so many products and just things she's doing. I'm going to let her just Go ahead and reintegrate, you know, and introduce herself, because Definitely she's a Dope sister and she's doing a lot of things In the community. So I'm going to let her go ahead and do her thing. I'll praise this.

Speaker 3:

Praise y'all. My name is Elsie Israel. I am a certified holistic practitioner. As he said, I'm just in a phase of learning on how to provide for my family in a healthy manner and depending less on the outer world.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and how long have you been doing this again? We'll just go integrate some of the last questions, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Regarding herbalism for about three years now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, three years, that's what's up. And you say that you wanted to learn how to work with your hands and to provide for your family. That's value and that's real rights for you to uh to be on that, that path and that mode. You know, and I'm sure your family and your husband enjoys all the things that you do, because I know that with holistic medicine and holistic practice becomes a healthier life and you know, your skin is vibrant. Look at her skin y'all, it's just real vibrant. I mean, you know, come on, y'all, y'all got to really understand that holistic health is like a big thing that we should be practicing. And for those that that do practice it and know it, we should, we should really support them and uh buy their stuff, you know. So where where does you say that you had most of your, your product set right?

Speaker 3:

I currently have my product on etsy shop. However, it's not updated. I will update it in a couple of weeks or so, but you're welcome to directly reach out to me and let me know like, hey, I want this shipped to me and I can make that happen.

Speaker 2:

Right, so what's one of your best sellers?

Speaker 3:

so far it's going to be my teas, my teas, um. I have different types of tea blends for different purposes, such as gut health, um postpartum pregnancy, um men's wellness tea, women's wellness T, menstrual cycle T I think that sums it up for the most part and, oh, lung T. I also do accommodate to customization of any blends. Like hey, I got this going on, I got a respiratory situation going on, I'll make a blend for you too. So I do accommodate to custom blends.

Speaker 2:

So are the custom blends extra Like? Do you have to pay an extra charge for that?

Speaker 3:

No, they're not. Each bag is about 45 grams, which can make about 32 cups of teas. And again, they're all organic herbs. I have grown some of them myself, and so the source matters as well. It's also some of the herbs that I do have are also locally grown as well here in Ohio. Yeah, integrity matters to me, so it's not just, you know, just collecting it.

Speaker 2:

I'll pray for I and and it should, because you know when, when you're dealing with holistic medicine, you definitely have to have a good reputation and you know and walk with a rightness, because you could really hurt somebody and, uh, you know and and misdiagnose somebody and they'd be all bad. But um, so you said that they, they're. So what would be the best way to steep tea, like what would be from from tea bag to actual tea? Like give us a step-by-step to make the best tea to be that I have the optimal result um, I think the best one would be like um, what's it called french press?

Speaker 3:

like people who have a french press? Um, there are multiple ways to do it. Um, I don't think there's necessarily a best, it really just is up to personal preference. So, but the most common would easier, I should say, for most people, because sometimes people like want the gadgets and whatnot, but, um, just boiling a cup of hot water and um, putting the herbs into it, and then after 10 to 15 minutes you strain the herbs out of it, you add any type of sweetener or no sweetener, depending on what you, how you prefer your teas, and yeah, you're good to go okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

So how long should you steep the tea?

Speaker 3:

for about 10 to 15 minutes. However, you can't do that with all herbs. Like certain herbs you can't like, example, marshmallow root. It's best to get them additional benefits. You have to steep it in room temp for about 24 hours, or 12 to 24 hours, instead of hot water, because then you're essentially burning the herbs. So you have to be knowledgeable on which herbs can benefit you, based off of the temperature of the water.

Speaker 2:

Essentially, Right, I never known that I have marshmallow food too. I never known that you're supposed to sleep at room temperature.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wow yeah.

Speaker 3:

So you learn something new every day, right?

Speaker 2:

so which other one would like? Just off of the top of your head, which other one is? Is something similar to the steeping method, like that?

Speaker 3:

um, any type of bark, like any type of bark, you gotta let it steep for a little longer than the example like the flower, such as like calendula and whatnot. So, um, barks just need a little more time to steep, and barks are also on the bitter side as well, so you need a little more time for that.

Speaker 2:

That is interesting. Never known that. So how long did it teach you, how long did it take you to really like memorize a lot of different like herbs and methods on how to? Was it the whole three years or was it just, you know, a short amount of time because of repetition or Let me preface by saying I don't know everything.

Speaker 3:

I am still learning, I'm still in this industry, um, but when it comes to how long I've learned this, I think it's just a matter of experience. As I go like, okay, today I'm feeling like this what can I do to help this beyond right? And so you do your research, you open up your books and you're like okay, this, this is what, this is what's good for this and this is what's not good for this. You know. So it's a it's a go as you learn, as you go type situation. You don't learn everything in one day gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 2:

So what's your favorite thing to make, like your favorite healthy thing to make, juice regarding peas, oh, food or anything, yeah, anything, period gosh, that's such a big question okay, so let me make it more blanketed then. So what's your favorite tea?

Speaker 3:

first, let's do that my favorite tea blend, or just like one type of herb your tea blend that you like that you personally drink the most something neutral drink, the most you know. Something neutral would be dandelion root and a nettle leaf and the other one.

Speaker 2:

Why do you call it neutral?

Speaker 3:

Because it kind of covers, it has a wide range of benefits, okay, and so, um, just those those two specific herbs that I, off the top of my dome, um kind of has hits all the check marks for you know, magnesium, iron and protein, all the vitamins, and, like I said it, it protein, all the vitamins, and, like I said, it just checks all the boxes and it's not bitter, right.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

So I hear a lot of people talk about that bitter fruit, the little green bitter fruit thing, that you can take it and it helps to cure cancer and a lot of other things. What is your take on it?

Speaker 3:

What is it called?

Speaker 2:

It's like a little bitter fruit. Hold on, that's what it's called bitter fruit or bitter herb. It's like a little green. It looks like a jalapeno with chicken pox or something like that.

Speaker 3:

I'm not sure if I've heard of that. Um, I do know about bitter leaf, but it's a leaf.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure if it's a fruit yeah, hold on, let me see, because I was looking at it the other day and a lot of people was talking about it bitter melon, that's what it's called okay, what do I think of it? Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, if it's, if it works, it works right and also too. Just because it works for this person doesn't mean it's going to work for you too.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm sorry, one more time. No, I said I ain't mean to cut you out, but I remember you was telling us about that on the last time that you know, just because it works for some people, it doesn't work for you. You know Right that. You know just because it works for some people it doesn't work for you, you know right.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, you one has to be careful about what they're consuming, because it may apply to somebody else and not apply to you too. But again, if it works for you, you know, go ahead and run with it right, right.

Speaker 2:

So what would you say is the best, best way to to like, get the best uses out of it?

Speaker 3:

Out of what exactly?

Speaker 2:

The bitter melon. Have you ever had to deal with it before?

Speaker 3:

I honestly have not dealt with it myself, so I can't much speak on it. Yeah, with lack of experience, I don't want to speak up or misinform anyone right.

Speaker 2:

So what would be your? Your favorite food, like your favorite dish to cook like breakfast, lunch or dinner?

Speaker 3:

so lately I have been um craving my cultural food, like onion food, and so I've been cooking a lot of like starchy and spicy foods, because that's common in my culture, so yeah, starchy and spicy foods yes so what was Once one dish you done cooked this week?

Speaker 2:

That was like, yeah, I think I might Cook this again or I might put this in the repertoire.

Speaker 3:

I made some. It's called light soup, okay, but it's basically just A tomato based soup with um meat, with different type of meat, such as like um beef or sometimes goat meat.

Speaker 2:

Some people feel fish different types of fish in there, so yeah okay, oh, man, and that that sounds like it's pretty good, especially with some fish in it too, you know. So, yeah, it's like stew fish or stew meat in a salad, uh, soup, okay, what you eating with rice or what yes, so um, I let my kids eat it with rice.

Speaker 3:

But there are different types of carbs you can eat it with, such as like I'm not sure if you've heard of like fufu you can eat it with fufu. Or sometimes people just eat it with rice. My kids eat it with rice okay, I love fufu.

Speaker 2:

I don't cook it a lot, but I love it. So what would be your favorite juice? Say that again your favorite juice that you would uh like um my favorite juice let me say this okay and let me say this, so your favorite juice.

Speaker 2:

Let me say this and let me say this so your favorite juice that you like to make, that would be that's like the most beneficial to you know, like to to you know your, your immune system, that's just more, that's the most beneficial that you can drink every day. It won't be like I'm coinciding with other things that I'm doing. I've learned, too, that with certain things like if you drink a certain juice, you shouldn't drink a certain tea, you got to space it out, just like medicine, like you know what I'm saying. So what would you say? It was to be the best. And your favorite juice, that could be like, like you say, neutral um, I think um hibiscus.

Speaker 3:

Hibiscus will be my go-to. I do make juice for, or lemonades for, the farmer's market and the top seller is hibiscus and soursop with lemonade sweetened with cane sugar. And, regarding taste-wise, people prefer that and visually it is a burgundy color, so people are attracted to that. However, personally I do like the butterfly pea flower with cinnamon and um butterfly pea flower is more of a um outer beneficial um herb it helps with your hair and your skin and then um the cinnamon, in addition to the cane flour, I mean cane sugar, um adds a different type of sweetener and benefits as well. Also to you. I think it's not a juice but elderberry syrup. I love making elderberry syrup, especially for my children, just to minimize the sickness and whatnot.

Speaker 2:

So what do you put in yours?

Speaker 3:

For the elderberry, I put cloves, which is antibacterial. I put lemons, I put ginger and cinnamon. And I have to boil for about an hour with the elderberries and you add some honey.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know. You boiled it for an hour. When I made it, I put some of the same things that you put in there, but I didn't boil it for an hour. It's just the smell of the elderberries. After a while it gets to you. It's very strong. I'll get this in the jar real quick, but I would know.

Speaker 3:

I've never known that, though that's something new every day, an hour yeah, you gotta cook it, cause that ittleberry it's hard, it's a hard berry, so you gotta cook it for a while for it to soften up and release all the benefits yeah, and that's they.

Speaker 2:

I heard that you can't like that's something that you can't really. You can take every day, but you should take small doses of it so you won't like overdose it can harm you.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yeah, yes, you be careful. Now, when you are really sick, you take like a teaspoon a day, but yeah, that's definitely with caution. Take that with caution, for sure. It's not juice, it's not juice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, people can be making gummies and stuff. I'm like man, that's too enticing, you can't Right, because elderberry actually tastes good. It actually tastes good, it's just like man, I agree.

Speaker 3:

I agree, it takes over the whole kitchen.

Speaker 2:

That's funny, yeah it does like man, you gotta gotta cook some fish or something like that, I don't know, because it it'd be horrible, but uh, so what? What's your take on? Uh, black seed oil, because I heard a lot of people you know talk about it wasn't good and then it was. It is good and it's like you know you get mixed reactions when it makes uh you know responses and I'm just like, well, what would be the best, you know? Is it good for us or not? What do you? What is your take on it?

Speaker 3:

I've heard some great testimonies with black seed oils and how it just clarifies your body of illnesses. I myself I don't have the oil, but I do have the actual seeds and I will put like a few in my tea bag when I'm making um. That too, I feel like it needs to be treated like elderberry, where you gotta cook it for a while to really gain the medicinal benefits off of it, because again it is like a hard, a hard seed, but um, again, if it works for you, you know who's to say otherwise.

Speaker 3:

Right If you are indefinitely seeing the benefits of it. Why not? But again, I've heard more good than bad when it comes to especially the oil. Right, right, and make sure that it's like your source is reputable, because a lot of people just sell anything these days.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to put it in my tea. Okay, I have a bird type of tea with some ashwagandha and I will put like a drop in it, because that stuff is super wrong. I will put a drop in it with a little bit of lemon and it'll keep me warm and feeling good all through the morning until it was gone. But it was nice though. Black seed oil is one of those those uh things like you said. Uh, elderberry, you know you gotta cook it. You should cook it long and you should not take a lot of it, even like you should definitely not take a lot of it because you I've heard people overdose on it yeah, too much of a good thing is not good.

Speaker 2:

You gotta yeah, there's gotta be some balance right, so what's the new project you're working on? You got anything. Any any kind of new projects you're working on?

Speaker 3:

um, like I said earlier, I have been working on soaps, like bar soaps, as well as um liquid soaps. Um, just today actually, I made my first bottle of all-purpose soap from castile soap and this cleaner my excuse me, all-purpose cleaner from the castile soap, and I made another batch. I made another batch of my dish soap from the Castile soap, so I'm just trying to perfect that formula and you know, I don't remember the last time I bought dish soap. So my praise, yeah.

Speaker 2:

She's making dish soap y'all. The last time you was making deodorant, last time we it was. You was making what deodorant Last time we talked, or something she said she was making deodorant. I'm like man. Is there anything that you can't make, like you know?

Speaker 3:

And I'm still learning. I don't know everything, but I am still learning.

Speaker 2:

I get that, but I definitely get that. But it's a definite joy to see like your page and see all the things that you're doing. There's all the stuff that you're coming up with, and it's like this stuff ain't nothing that anybody else can't do, it's just you just put your hands to do it and your hands and your heart to do it and make it happen. And they'd be like like, yeah, where's her? Uh, just take my money like that once.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to add to that um laundry soap non-toxic laundry soap too just take my money that's funny, but yeah, I'm just just learning.

Speaker 2:

I get it. I get it, but, like a lot of us don't know, like cause a lot of us, you know, we still try to go to you know these stores and buy, you know, like clean soap and clean detergent and it don't be clean, like we just found out the 17th generation is crap and you know all this other stuff, and it's like wow, it don't be clean, we just found out the 7th generation is crap and all this other stuff. It's like wow, can't win. Yeah, when we have a system.

Speaker 3:

It goes back to what we talked about last time is convenience. I don't fault people because people don't have the time to do these stuff. I have the time, but your average person doesn't have the time. I don't fault people because people don't have the time to do these stuff. I have the time, but your average person doesn't have the time. So I don't fault people for not, you know, doing what I do or going to the extent of doing research, because I understand that people don't have time right, okay, all right, but so that's why we got sisters and brothers like you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's why you got me. I'll do the work for you.

Speaker 2:

So I'm looking into the camera. Y'all better go buy her stuff If you don't support. You know what I'm going to say. Y'all, you a hater, you a hater, I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 2:

Because sister got got a lot of stuff going on and you know it's like I say I can't keep. You know, reintegrating that. It's a beautiful thing to see, you know, sister moving in the way that you're moving in and, you know, just doing it for the community and doing it for y'all's people, so that's a good thing and a lot of people should support you. I don't know why you said you'd be selling out. So you get a lot of support. And, brothers and sisters, if y'all in the Cincinnati area, you know, go to the farmer's market where she at, and you know, buy her out, sell her out, like you know, because she's going to come back next Sunday with more shit you know what I'm saying and more stuff. So definitely know what I'm saying. And then more stuff, so definitely. But uh, when you said you was making your own deodorant, I'm like, yeah, I, where's her?

Speaker 3:

website. That's mainly specifically that, because I know people, like majority of the population, are like natural deodorant that's just gonna make you stink more. Which, um? Yes, when, when you start detoxing your body, yes, you will experience the stink.

Speaker 3:

But, once your body adapts and you detox your body, your body adapts. So I have yet to hear a complaint, especially from my husband, because he will speak his mind. But I've been doing it for a few years now and that's mainly based off of personal request, because there's out of everything I make when, if I were to turn it a transactional child, it's gonna be overwhelming. So most of the things I make is based off of request, because then I have to think about labels and packaging and it can be overwhelming, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you, just one person, so grow, essentially because it is such a big responsibility.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but you know, with the ass timing, I think everything will work out in the way that it should.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it should definitely Do you. You said that you, so let's touch on that, that whole scare thing, because I think that that people, when you have a dream, and it's the dreams, it scares you, it's your dream, it's for you, you know, it's just that it things that we want and want to accomplish, they shouldn't, they shouldn't be small and they shouldn't not scare us, you're right.

Speaker 2:

The steps to get there is, like you know, we are scared of the steps that it's going to take, because sometimes, when you walk up steps, your thighs be burning. You walk up too many of them. So I think that's what we're scared of is our thighs burning.

Speaker 3:

That's very true. That's very true From my perspective. I don't want to invest in labels and containers and all the equipment and ingredients it requires and labels and containers and all the equipment and ingredients it requires to make this thing and I sell nothing, because then that's a waste of money. Essentially, granted, I'm going to use it eventually, I'm going to drink my teas, I'm going to use my soaps, but it's just a matter of wasting time and energy when it's not going to be fruitful. You know, everybody wants to succeed, nobody wants to fail, and I think the scaredness is failure. But nothing beats a try but a failure. So you know, you just got to try it and I think I'm just trying to take baby steps.

Speaker 2:

That's part of part. Part of success is failure, you know yes, Because you wouldn't know how to get to the bag if you didn't fail. You know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm saying If you did, you'll hate it, but I, you know, I. I think that you know what you doing, doing like the most high said, in all his, in all your ways, you know you keep him first. I think that what you're doing is just that you know when you, when you, when you do a service for his people, you service in here. You know you helping his people to live a better and more righteous, cleaner life. You know you helping them to keep to that law and keep to that Torah. Yeah, I think he'll definitely help you and show you that grace because you're not doing nothing. That's not detrimental. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, like, yeah, you have a detrimental cost. It's like the calling that you have and the gifts that he has given you are not for nothing. You are a healer, you know, and it's not a lot of people in our nation that have that healing ability, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, when you put it that way, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. When you put it that way, you make a good point, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You got to think of it like that, because the Most High is definitely he says, like he says, I wake my servants up early and send them out to the nation. You know and I'm not to say that you up early in the morning every day, but early as far as like in the mindset you know what I'm saying Like having that mindset that hey, yeah, I got to get this done because not only am I servicing my family but I'm servicing my people, you know, y'all's people. So, yeah, you doing a damn thing, and I appreciate that. Yeah, that yeah, definitely hats off to you. I uh, like I said, I'm real big on holistic medicine.

Speaker 2:

I'm real big on it I got, uh, books and stuff like that. I don't read them as much as I used to, but I definitely like dibble and dabble and I'm I try to make sure that, um, that I ingest, you know, something from the earth at least once a day, if not twice. You know I'm saying, and that's what a lot of people need to do is, like, you know, put something in it that that's from mother earth in your body. You know, like it ain't, like it's I go, it's gonna do something to you, you know. So, yeah, definitely, so it's you. You're something to you. So, yeah, definitely. So it's you doing your thing. And you know, I know, that the most high is because I see it. You can see the most highest touch and glow on certain people. You know what I'm saying. You can, yeah, you see it and people see it on you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

People see it on you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, all praises. And I, I know that, uh, I know your husband's happy about it and he and you know, because our, our reputations are our wife, because the first thing when I want to want to, when somebody talks about your husband, the first thing, yeah, his wife, yeah, his wife was out here doing it. That's his reputation. So you know you're doing him a service and you're doing the most high service all praises.

Speaker 3:

So I definitely needed that I needed that motivation because you know, sometimes you do get, I do get doubtful because I'm like you know what am I doing? I'm just here, but um, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2:

I agree, that's definitely something to um deeply meditate on and greatly consider, so appreciate that yeah, I ain't trying to push you into, you know, a future, a fortune 500 company right now, but you know, just to let you know, that that is brothers like brothers and it's people like me, your family, that that appreciates what you're doing yeah we appreciate what you're doing yeah and definitely will support.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm saying we'll support, right you know? Yeah, I guess I'm just trying to get into the phase of perfecting what I'm saying will support, right you?

Speaker 3:

know, yeah, I guess I'm just trying to get into the phase of perfecting what I have before I introduce it to everyone else, right? So it's like I don't want to just put out any and everything just because I said I made it for the first time. I want to perfect this thing and then introduce it, you know, because it goes back to integrity and yeah, ultimately that's what it boils down to. And again, I'm still learning because there's more than one way to skin the cat.

Speaker 2:

Right, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

But then it's like when do you gauge when things are perfect? It's just a whole lot.

Speaker 2:

That's why you got your husband.

Speaker 3:

And, hubby, you're going to have to be the lab rat.

Speaker 2:

bro, You're going to have to be the lab rat and help her get it right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, help her get it right so she can push it to the community. Man, like he's got to take that L, like that's what he's there for, you know, to help you be healthy, and I'm sure he does, because I see it on your page. You know what I'm saying, your page and everything how you know y'all just such a loving family and that's a good thing too. You know that you have a loving family and you have that support, you know, because without the support it'd be hard.

Speaker 3:

I agree. I agree, I'm definitely grateful for what I have for sure.

Speaker 2:

Right, all praises, all praises. So I definitely, like I said, I'm looking forward to the next thing. You know what you coming up with next. Do you do topicals and stuff like that and aerosols?

Speaker 3:

And what sauce. And aerosols sauce like sprays um, I do do hair sprays. Um, I have hair sprays that align with my hair oils that I make as well.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, yeah if y'all ain't on her page buying everything she got y'all but I that's the thing I don't post everything I make.

Speaker 3:

I don't post everything I make. I get it, I get it Again. I'm just trying to perfect it behind the closed doors and then if I post it, that means I got it down right.

Speaker 2:

But just to know that that's what you're working on. In the background is hairspray, natural, holistic hairspray y'all. Where have y'all heard that at like who's doing that?

Speaker 3:

but that's not but the scripture says there's nothing new under the sun, right, right. And so every somewhere on this planet, somebody has done something that I'm looking to learn about or I'm looking to explore I it, and that's why I try not to be boastful, because somebody out there has probably done it 10 times better than I have.

Speaker 2:

Well, hey, let others boast on you, let other people give you your flowers. See, I'm real big on giving people flowers where they can smell them, because not a lot of people like not a lot of our people, and it sucks that. You know, our people are not as close-knit as we supposed to be. It's not as supportive and unified as we supposed to be. So it's it. You know, we, we only hear, and that's. We have close friends. That's in the truth. But we only get to smell our flowers, like you know, at least once a week, and that's on the Sabbath day, and that shouldn't be cool. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's cool, but it should be more than that.

Speaker 3:

I have always had that stance. There is no reason why we should not be gathering outside of the Shabbat day. The Shabbat day is mandatory, but outside of that, by choice, we should be linking up a lot more than we do, and so I'm with you on that. Take for sure, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I definitely feel that it should be more of a community. You know, we that's how we check each other, that's how we learn from each other, that's how we build. You know, and that's what tori is is checking each other, loving each other and building with each other you know, I think people are just so hesitant, are just hesitant to trust each other.

Speaker 3:

Everybody knows everything. Every man is writing in his own eyes, right, and so it is very saddening when I think about it as a whole, because, as much as we know, we're the Israelite Hebrew community. We lack From the depths of it, in my opinion, we lack true community, and it's sad to me and it's sad to me, but hopefully one of these days we can figure it out.

Speaker 2:

So why do you feel other than the lack of trust? What else do you feel is playing a role in it too?

Speaker 3:

you feel is playing a role in it too? I think it's the um, because america as a whole is based off of individualism, like every man for themselves, and so we, as hebrews, have adopted that mindset as well. Right, it's just me and mine. I'm worried about myself, right, and so, um, unfortunately, only the most high can fix this. You know how? How long have people been in this community and um haven't had a bad relationship with the next hebrew? You know, I don't know. It's just, it's unfortunate to me when I think about it as a whole, but I don't have the answers. I'm just a baby in here. I'm just a baby in the bunch.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. But you know what? There are classes that are Israelites that are moving and uniting in certain fashions, in certain manners and you know I can't speak for you know the vast majority of Israelites, but I know some camps and congregations are trying to unify. The camp that you go to, the class that you go to, they do a. I remember they was like one of the first classes to do like a feed in the poor circuit when they was going around in different cities and stuff like that and you know, just feeding the poor. And they still do it on every Sunday and that was one thing that I always admired about that class, because they got out there in the streets and they just was on the internet behind safety, they was out there in the trenches and they was getting things done. That was one thing that I could appreciate and admire about the brothers and sisters that class but the thing is, other other classes don't join.

Speaker 3:

That's the unfortunate part. That's the community base, that's the coming together. You know, this is for a greater cause. It was just last week we did like a school drive where we had backpacks, books, children's toys, children's clothing and food and, um, it goes back to, as far as I'm concerned. I know the lady who sends out the text messages, the announcements. She lets, she informs other classes. Hey, this is what we're doing at this time at this location and people still don't show up. I understand, people have work on the first day, but one person you know, yeah, that's what I mean by.

Speaker 3:

There's a great division, for sure, and I hate that. I hate that for us, I really do right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is ugly, because it can be a lot better and we can be a lot better and we can definitely move in a better way. Like I didn't know that they were actually like giving out Wow, and see that speaks to you know. Wow, and see that speaks to you know. Wow, I don't even know what to say about that. That's deep. Like that's deep, yeah, because the thing of it is is that we were called to come together. We were called to come together and be as a righteous nation and to help each other and others. You know, and that's law.

Speaker 3:

You can't say that you are a Torah keeper and we're not even doing the basics Right, and that's why we're here in the first place. That's why God is here in the first place. And how many hundreds of years later, we still haven't figured it out.

Speaker 3:

It's very discouraging, I must say, because at some point you do end up giving up, because who wants to constantly get rejected? Come together, come together, come together. Okay, at some point I'm gonna give up, right, because now my spirits are down, right. But um, hopefully we figure it out, hopefully yahweh, can, can, will bring us together Sooner than later.

Speaker 2:

See, this is a conviction, but you know, cause and this is Abiyah Speaking you know the sister said how she felt, and you know. But I'ma say what I feel, cause this is the truth and that's what I do. But I've Always talked that. I've always talked about, even though I have, like you know, had my my fair share of uh, ups and downs with brothers and sisters in the city. You know it, I've always been about unity, I've always been about coming, I've always been about coming together, I've always been about doing something extra or more than just a Sabbath class, and that's why I say I admire the brothers and sisters down there because they were doing it. They were doing stuff.

Speaker 2:

One thing that I don't like about some of these classes here is that they talk about the messianics. They talk about, you know, the messianicists, the messianic sect, the Christians, the Muslims, but all these factions that they talk about have unity and uniformity at that. You know what I'm saying. And when, if you go, and If you go, put your hands on a nation of Islam, brother, it's gonna be a Thousand of them in Chocobac Doe. You know what I'm saying. They don't play games, they have gardens, they have community gardens, they teach their children self defense. They homeschool their children. Their sisters know how to do things. Their brothers know how. We don't even have a class. Their sisters know how to do things. Their brothers know how. We don't even have a class to teach our brothers how to hunt and fish and gather and all that stuff like that. But we want to talk about Torah, we want to talk about Bible scriptures.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we ain't got to talk.

Speaker 3:

No, let's talk about it because it's actually very frustrating because just a prime example my husband runs his own company. He's an expert in fire sprinklers and he started his business and the initial thought was let me start this business so my brothers can come work with me and I can essentially feed their family. Right, this is a community based situation. Oh my God, that's beautiful. Right, this is bigger than just you and, to be fair and to be frank and honest, it's been such a fail. And when I say the business is not a fail because he's thriving in the business, but regarding brothers wanting to learn and be able to feed their families through another brother and grow with the brother and grow with a brother something that's generational nobody's showing up. Nobody's showing up.

Speaker 3:

But now you want to complain that you have no money when you could help your brother build his business so he can help you feed your family. But you don't want to work, you just want handouts. You want to get paid $40 an hour over something that you don't even know, and it's so from a wife standpoint, from the outsider looking, it's like people are not willing to do the work. They want the easy way out. And then you complain about not having money because the system, because the system, because a white man is a white man. But when do you look in the mirror and say, ok, it begins with me and it stops with me. And I think we just fail to have accountability, sometimes because we want to blame. Then, when you have, when you're pointing one I've always said this when you're pointing a finger, you always have three coming back at you.

Speaker 3:

I've always said this when you're pointing a finger, you always have three coming back at you and to me again, I just, it's just. We need to start doing more. Although my particular class at Kemperling, we do feed the poor most first days of the week, we can do more, right. We can do more. We can do more right, we can do more. We can have more gatherings regarding, you know, helping each other overall in whatever sector we need, but with the whole of the community, there is a lack of trust with one another is what I have noticed. But yeah, I'm only one person, joel.

Speaker 2:

But this is the thing right, and you know we can't even use like the lack of trust, because the most high told us not to trust man. He told us not to trust each other. He said trust me, don't put your trust in your brother you, because he's gonna fail you. He's gonna fail you, but believe that the brothers gonna do right by you leave. Believing and trusting is two different things, you're right, you know so. When, when I believe that you're gonna be right with me, it's a, it's an area of gray in there, you know I'm saying, yeah, that where that trust was supposed to have been, but it's not there, because I put my all my trust in the most fact. So, but I believe that you're going to be right with me. What I've, what I've experienced just is that it's because it wasn't their idea, it's because they didn't come up with it first that's fine, though, like, that's okay, as long as it's, as long as it's your brother.

Speaker 3:

You know my husband, you go out to these jobs and you're wearing mingled uniform. My husband, 100 caught in uniform. It's about unity, you know, and he's willing to work with your schedule. You know you want to come in at this time. You don't want to work full-time, you can work part-time, and it's like the lack of support and the lack of yeah, ultimately the lack of support is, um, it's, it's. It's so bizarre to me because if I'm eating, you're eating too, and that should be the mentality. Why are we depending on John Smith to feed us? We shouldn't be, and nobody's willing to grow from the root. Well, I could talk about this.

Speaker 2:

I get it. I totally understand where you coming from about the lack of support, and you know it it. Why wouldn't you want to work for your brother that that you know is going to do and treat you as a tour keeping brother? Should you know, when we treat each other by tour and we do business by tour, it's a one-up. It's a one-up Like it's a leg up, because in business, the way that tour is structured, you are supposed to look at your workers like they family, they not supposed to be workers. They're supposed to look at your workers like they family. They they not supposed to be workers, they're supposed to be family. So you treat them the same way that you would treat your son that works for you it's a leg up.

Speaker 2:

But that's why I say these a lot of brothers and sisters. They say they, they keep in tourists, but they ain't they fly, they lie I think you know it's ego.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's that too.

Speaker 2:

But I, I really do think that and I really do, you know, wish that that brothers and sisters would come together and uh and help one another, because I mean, she's about to hit the fan, it's about to get ugly. You know what I'm saying the way that you know, quavius is doing his thing Like he ain't even man. He ain't no hoes boy out here, for nobody Like you know what I'm saying, Truly truly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So we got to start moving and coming together, like you know, and really helping each other. Because, like, I didn't like, wow, like that's, I would love to work for my brother, like if I knew that my brother had like a trucking business or something like that. There's a couple brothers that I knew in the troop that I wanted to work for, and you know they, you know it, just ain't they, they didn't pick me so it was like okay, whatever, but you know, I, I would love to work for my brother.

Speaker 2:

Like why would I want to work for, you know, john white or you know anybody else that ain't go, that ain't gonna honor the sabbath, that ain't gonna honor the feast days, that ain't going to honor the Sabbath, that ain't going to honor the feast days, that ain't going to honor the fact that I have a certain type of diet you know what I'm saying that's not going to honor the fact that stop asking me to work on the Sabbath, when I told you a hundred times no, now I'm feeling disrespected. You know A lot of these companies do that. But to work for my brother, that's something different, you know, it's a different feel.

Speaker 3:

I'm not sure what that's about. We move.

Speaker 2:

And I see that you know as a sister and as a wife, it gets to you. I can see it. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, because it makes no sense to me. It makes no sense to me. I just it's not a matter of who's the boss or who's under you. It's like let's grow this thing together, the hand in hand. Let's do this thing man and everybody wants to be the boss, the leader. It's like's like oh, that doesn't matter, the titles don't matter, it's about the mission, and people are not willing to invest in the mission.

Speaker 2:

You know one thing that I do take from when Alicia was teaching, he said he was like man a brother can't call himself a leader if he ain't got his own business and he ain't doing something to employ his brethren. You know what I'm saying and it was I'm just paraphrasing, but it was a lot of other things he did say with that too. But to this, from taking from that, like you know, like it, it takes a certain type of brother to be a leader you know what I'm saying and to understand what a leadership role is. And if you have a brother that's in that leadership role, why wouldn't you want to follow after? It ain't like he's going to tell you how to leave your house, or do you know what I'm saying? No, we just I'm trying to lead you to the, to the promised land, my nigga.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, I'm saying type stuff, but I get it. It can get frustrating. I have. I felt the same way too about you know, my record label and everything. But you know it. You just keep pushing, keep pushing and you deal with the people that deal with you and you know you build, you build with who's gonna build with you, you know yeah praise is like you know, it's, it's what's up I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3:

Give me one moment, let me grab my charger. Okay, give me one moment. My apologies, I love you.

Speaker 1:

Shake like something violent to your cochlea transmits electric signals that are silent to your heart, which is your brain. I need to digest, let the spirit interpretate and then I'll do the rest. And if your heart is not hearing, then I'll know. So you won't live it. So what will I do with it? My hobby?

Speaker 2:

and you said your husband, he does sprinkler systems. Yes, um, yeah, he does sprinkler systems.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yeah, he does sprinkler systems. What's the name? Go ahead and give it a plug. His company name is Living Waters.

Speaker 2:

Fire Protection, that's what's up? Living Waters, fire Protection Y'all definitely, definitely. If you need a sprinkler system, even if you don't just go write a good review you know what I'm saying and give a good Google review, y'all like even if you didn't do business with him. It's many ways to support, support. Do we have a Facebook or any social media pages?

Speaker 3:

um, he does have social media but he's not active on there, unfortunately. But, um, yeah, he just if, usually, if a person, like, owns a building of a business of some sort, um, fire protection is mandatory in all states and he does maintain it. So, um, you know, if you own a shop or any sort of again, any sort of buildings, he does maintain the fire sprinkler systems and in new buildings as well as what he does. So, yeah, I mean Praja, it's been successful for about five years now and, yeah, he's doing nothing but growing. He works a lot and so you know.

Speaker 2:

Oh, praise you. But you know, if you don't work, you don't eat. You don't work, your family don't eat, so you got to get out there and get it. And that's the beautiful thing that the Most High has allowed him to have his own business too. A lot of us still have to work for Joe White. He's able to do something that I know he loves. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you start a business with a trade that you got. You gotta love it, you know what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying that's fire, man, that's fire. So where do you do the? Where do you? What farmer's market do you be at usually?

Speaker 3:

I this year I am at the Fairfield um farmer's market, which is near hamilton. It's about 30 to 30, 30 to 35 minutes from downtown cincinnati, um, but that's almost over. So I think coming the next spring or summer season I will be maybe at the Northfield Farmer's Market. We'll see where the most high takes me. But yeah, fairfield Farmer's Market.

Speaker 2:

Fairfield. That's right around the corner from where I live, Okay, I didn't know it was that close, I could have been over there buying you out, because I definitely want some of that hibiscus. You said hibiscus ain't really good for me, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't suggest it Like you drink it every day, you know.

Speaker 2:

But once in a while it's fine. Okay, because I got some hibiscus and I put it in my tea area once in a while. You have to mix it up right with something right to make it taste. You know just right. But I haven't got that concoction right, so I just left it alone. I left the tub a little bit alone, but that's what's up. I don't praise this. I got left alone, but that's what's up. All praises. So how have you? Have you done anything? Do you make anything like that? Specific to children.

Speaker 3:

I am in the process of making some glycerite, which is a concentrated medicine for children. So essentially it's a tincture, because tinctures are made with alcohol and so it's a tincture, but because it's glycerin, it's called glycerite and so, yeah, I'm in the process of making that. It's sitting in my cabinet right now. You got to let it sit for some weeks and then you strain it out. So, regarding and it's the mixture I'm making has mullein and cloves in it, which is really good for the respiratory, such as like coughs and poos. So, yeah, for children, that as well, specifically like for colds and medicines and whatnot, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That is dope, Like that's dope. Like you make it a child's medicine, children's medicine yeah, because children shouldn't be consuming alcohol.

Speaker 3:

You got to consider the children too that is dope.

Speaker 2:

Like I. I didn't even think that you was like. I thought you was like. I honestly thought you was going to be like. Well, you know I'm thinking about doing. No, you already got this going.

Speaker 3:

I told you, I do this for my family. I got to consider the babies too.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, I already got that's already in. My thing you got to let it sit for a couple of weeks, it's already there, though. We got that's already in. Uh, my thing you gotta let it sit for a couple weeks, it's already there though. We got that going right now, like but my children myself.

Speaker 3:

They actually drink teas too, just with me like yeah, they actually they'll actually accept cups of tea a day. I was like they enjoy tea, excuse me I said, you drink it a lot.

Speaker 2:

That's why, right like your lifestyle.

Speaker 3:

They just end up, you know, living the same lifestyle as the parents. So, yeah, they see us drinking, so they wanted to man must be nice, I can't get.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to bring some more in there when you think he had drank more, but other than that, uh-uh.

Speaker 1:

That's funny.

Speaker 3:

I try to make it on the sweeter side, and so I'm just like yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's what's up, man, that is wild. So I don't even want to ask you any more questions about what you're making.

Speaker 3:

No, I think we got it down generally. I don't know what's the new thing I'm going to get into. I'm just, yeah, I'm just here.

Speaker 1:

I kind of oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so I do want to get into winemaking, but my husband, like I, rarely drink, my husband does notemaking, but my husband, like I rarely drink, my husband does not drink. So it's kind of like what's the point?

Speaker 2:

But for a moment there. I was very interested in winemaking. Well, I mean, hey, wine is good for your heart, good for your heart, your bloodstream too. You know you can make some holistic wine. And you know, flip, yeah, man, it'll be vegan, right, vegan, because you know, a lot of wine ain't vegan. You know, it's something that they use inside of it that has like pork or something like that it's just unclean, so yeah, so you definitely could get into that.

Speaker 2:

I could see it being you know, because I drink wine, a lot of us drink wine. So, that's something to get into, I was just like that.

Speaker 3:

We'll see. We'll see if that flourishes, but otherwise you got any ideas. I'm accepting ideas.

Speaker 2:

I'm accepting ideas. I'm like man yeah. I still want that. I still want to smell that juice that you had, that you said you was going to burp. You probably done drunk. It Y'all probably done drunk. That was months ago.

Speaker 3:

The ginger bug. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I want some of that.

Speaker 3:

That's pretty much soda for real Carbonated drink.

Speaker 2:

That's really just a carbonated drink, honestly, but I haven't made that in a while actually wow yeah so you got a carbonation machine there too no, it's, no, it's, uh, it's.

Speaker 3:

It's not a machine, it's just literally ginger and sugar and you let it ferment and then you make a flavored drink with it and you put it in a pressurized bottle, let it sit for a few days and it's carbonated. It literally opens up like soda and oh, and it's also probiotic too. So it's actually good for you, so it's good for your gut health.

Speaker 2:

So and do you sell a lot of that, or do people know I?

Speaker 3:

don't, I don't, I don't sell that one. I don't sell that one. That is just for me and my family, because again.

Speaker 1:

I have to now think about like I think packaging is like my biggest hurdle.

Speaker 3:

It's like, okay, how am I going to package this?

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Especially with carbonated drinks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I can teach you how to do it. I'm always going to give you the recipe. I'll give you the recipe. I'll tell you anybody how to do it, because if I can do it, anybody else can do it right, all right, that's what's up.

Speaker 2:

Man, maybe you should. You should do some tutorials, like on your, on a, on your website. You have a website no, I don't have a website I can't ask you yet, because I just really want to go to the website.

Speaker 3:

I'm not even gonna lie like I might have to make one, but, um, I do do videos, like when I'm making certain things. I do do like short videos, step by step, of like what it is I'm doing and how I do it, just to create some type of transparency between me and a potential customer, right? Um, it's just a matter of posting it. It's just a matter of posting it and making it look digestible right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was trying to look for her page like for real on facebook, but I haven't been active.

Speaker 3:

In a couple months I haven't been active. I just had to take a quick social media break, but I'll be back soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I wanted to look at some of these, like some of the shorts that she was doing, because they were very informative, but I got like four pages. Y'all Don't don't we listen, but we don't judge right. So I got four pages. I'm not a troll. I am a troll, but I'm not a troll. I don't have her on one of my pages. That's connected to my laptop. I really wanted to watch a couple videos.

Speaker 2:

For those that don't know her, I have her as a friend on Facebook just to see some of the things that she's doing, just some of the informatives she has. She talked about your diaphragm one time and she talked about things for women. She's really informative about that stuff. A lot of the stuff that she be talking about, like I just have to like I scroll, I scroll up on it and be like, oh, let me see what she talking about and it is geared towards it's not like gender, like gender, like, oh, it's just for women, it's like neutral. So she talks about a little bit of and the things that she does say it's like man, I can do that and she gives it to you in the easiest form. You know some people, some of these holistic gurus. You're like man. You got to do this and this and this and that, and you got to take seven drops of this and 24 drops of that, and you're like man. Why, bro, like bro, you lost me at the first ingredient, my nigga.

Speaker 2:

That's right, sister, tell you real easy. She show you how to do it and she's doing it. She did one video I remember it was a tutorial and I'm like, hey, man, I'm about to go in here and cook this, but I forgot that I didn't have none of this shit that she was talking about. But the video was so informative y'all Like for real, it had real Y'all a holistic buff like me, man, you go enjoy her content.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, I gotta get into more posting. I gotta get into more posting.

Speaker 2:

I get it. It can get exhausting at times because Black folks is exhausting. You could be posting something on Facebook and then scroll and see something and you be like for real, like I'm just about to throw my whole phone away. I'm tired of Facebook. So, yeah, I get it, I get it. It be hard, you know, I get it. So you said that you don't know what's the next thing you're getting into. But so I'm just going to ask you. I'm just going to ask you Do you do like any kind of like desserts or anything like that?

Speaker 3:

Of course, like I'm a cooker, I'm in the kitchen, yeah, but I make muffins. I make uh, what's it called? I don't. I don't know if I call this a dessert, but souffles. My kids love that, for like you'd be.

Speaker 2:

You'd be firing them up on the top too, with the, with the uh, with the, with the little blowtorch. You know you make the souffle with the little blowtorch. You know you make the souffle with the little no.

Speaker 3:

I don't use the blowtorch no, not that. But yeah, I think for the most part my Pop-Tarts. I haven't made that in a while, but my husband loves Pop-Tarts so I try to make the healthy version, the homemade version.

Speaker 2:

I should say she did say she made them last. She said she made healthy Pop-Tarts. I'm like are you selling those? But unfortunately for us, those are not an item that she's selling to. I don't know why she's telling us about stuff she ain't selling us.

Speaker 3:

Those are perishable. I make a lot of bread. My children love bread. Yeah, For the most part muffins or cupcakes.

Speaker 2:

Do you prefer bacon over cooking sometimes?

Speaker 3:

I like them equally, both equally.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it really just depends, but I of course cook more than I bake, but yeah, Right, right, I get that Because baking, like once I feel like at least with cooking if you mess up you can easily fix it, but with baking if you mess up a little, easily fix it. But with baking if you mess up a little bit then you probably mess up the whole thing the whole thing, just throw the whole thing away I hate wasting ingredients.

Speaker 2:

I hate wasting ingredients yeah, especially with muffins, man, muffins are the one thing.

Speaker 3:

It's like, man, you don't get it right no, truly, I think muffins are pretty easy to follow. At least, the recipe I came up with is pretty easy. I think my biggest challenge now is like perfecting the perfect sourdough.

Speaker 2:

Sourdough has been a challenge for me, especially starting, at least but, that's a challenge because it's like a 24-hour situation right, that's what I was about to ask you like how long do you let it, let the dough sit for?

Speaker 3:

it's literally all day. You won't get to bake it to the night time.

Speaker 2:

This is a lot but living you learn you live and you learn well, you know you, like you said, you had a time, and all praise for the most high that you are able to. You know what I'm saying had his time to learn and experience and perfect your craft. I wish I had the time. You know, I would definitely be in the kitchen more and doing more things holistically, but had to work. Excuse me y'all, sorry, apologies, but yeah, it's definitely a. It's definitely a. You're definitely giving a service to the community and definitely being a big help Because, like I said, you know, once you get the stuff that you want, to the prototypes. Because, see y'all, like I said, she keep on the good stuff for herself and I'm really starting to feel some type of way about that. You know we're not even going to talk about that how angry I am with her right now.

Speaker 2:

Not angry be slow to anger, but yeah, no, it's, it's the stuff that she does give. Y'all, y'all go and and and sell, and buy her out and get everything that she has and support and, uh, support her husband too. Too, you know they both are doing it.

Speaker 3:

And I will say that I have to do a better job with reaching out to my people and being more open per se. And again I guess it goes back to, like you know, just showing my face and knowing that I am you, I am letting people see me and who I am, and I think that kind of clashes with my personality because I really I like to be low key, but if you want to be, if you want to sell your stuff, you got to be. You know where the people are at.

Speaker 3:

so I just have to find a balance between those two Definitely.

Speaker 1:

But that's on me.

Speaker 3:

I don't need anybody else.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to be too too. You know too out on the social media and the social public. I get it and you and then you want to be, so you can your business and your brand can grow. So it's a healthy medium. You got to find that, I understand. But yeah, y'all, this is your boy, abiy, at the Spit the Truth Podcast and we're with Sister YC and she is definitely the business Y'all go in and support. I can't stress that enough, man, man, because we don't support each other enough and we we already touched on that but and we don't have to talk about it again but y'all just know that.

Speaker 2:

You know the sister is, is, is, is giving y'all service and she don't have to do it for y'all, she don don't have to, like you know, but the most high put it on her heart to do it for her family and she extends that same blessing. You know, that's one thing that King David was good for. He always used to say you know, bless me so I can. The blessings that you bless me will extend to my brother. You know, I think it was King Solomon or King David that said that. And that's what you're doing. You're blessing everybody else because the blessings that you have given each other. Well, you have been given, so I'll praise to the most high sisters. Is there anything else you want to tell the people? This is the time to let them know your links, your website, all that good stuff where they can find your products, where they can find your products, where they can find you at and come and buy you out. And you know just your last little inspirational word. I know you got one um, my facebook.

Speaker 3:

I'm on facebook. Um, it's lc. The letter is lc israel, with the y in the start of it. Um, ultimately, take care of, take care of yourself, take care of yourself. You got one body. You got one life. Just take care of it the best you can. And, yeah, hallelujah. Thank you, guys for listening and support. You're welcome to reach out to me. I'm not, I don't bite. I hope I'm not scary.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I'm crazy, know y'all, if y'all don't support, uh, y'all go see this face and I'm gonna be like you, uh, you a hater. I'm just gonna tell you right now, like because we, we got it. I can't stress it enough, y'all can't stress it enough. The sister is very knowledgeable and she's only getting better as she learns, more and more innovative with the things that she's creating with her hands, like she has baby medicine, y'all. It's literally sitting in her cabinet right now play with her.

Speaker 2:

If y'all want, man, play with her. If y'all want y'all, don't, play with y'all's children. We know how to do too much. We know how to do too much. They're trying to get rid of us because they know, man, we can heal ourselves. We don't need they medicine. You know. I saying, as long as we got sisters like Sister LC, what do we need the medicine for? I go get on her page and go buy everything I need and be good the next week Practice. So, hey, at the end of the day, y'all get up. Y'all get up and support this.

Speaker 2:

Your boy Abiyah signing off Spit, your true podcast. Man, we love y'all, me and sister LC. We just chopped it up and she just gave y'all some more jewels. Definitely, man, go buy her stuff. Man, go do the best that y'all can. Like. Y'all Hebrews always like to say we got to do the best we can, so do the best y'all can and get down and buy her stuff Best y'all can with that. You know what I'm saying. All praises to the Most High. Y'all, sister, we love you, we appreciate you getting on the show with us. We're going to have to do a part three and this is the part three. I'm going to ask them some compromising questions, because I like controversy. I like controversy, but you know what?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm messy as hell. I'm messy, but all praises to the Most High Sister. We love you, we appreciate you. May the Most High bless you and your family and keep y'all going, keep y'all successful, keep y'all happy and healthy All praises to the.

Speaker 3:

Most High.

Speaker 2:

Shalom, Sister Shalom.

Speaker 3:

Praise God, shalom, shalom, shalom.

Speaker 2:

Shalom, thank you.