Ep 36 First World Problems Real Talk

The headlines feel louder than real life lately, and that’s exactly why we sat down and talked the way regular people actually talk: messy, honest, sometimes funny, and sometimes uncomfortable. I’m Abia, and I’m joined by my brothers James and Masheik for a wide-ranging conversation that starts with everyday life in Texas and quickly turns into what a lot of people are quietly thinking, from safety and self-defense to the anxiety that comes from feeling like anything can pop off at any time.

We get into geopolitics and current events, including Iran, Israel, Gaza, and the way war news can dominate attention while Americans struggle with cost of living, wages, and burnout. We also talk immigration and asylum claims, how media narratives shape public opinion, and why propaganda and “one story fits all” stereotypes keep communities divided. Along the way, we touch on Africa, resources, corruption, and the difference between outside exploitation and internal accountability.

Then we bring it back home: race tension, microaggressions, and why some places feel calmer than the internet makes it seem. We end on faith and identity, including Hebrew Israelite culture, Christian community dynamics, and the danger of turning belief into gatekeeping instead of growth. If you want real conversation that aims for unity without pretending we all agree, press play, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review with the one moment you couldn’t stop thinking about.

Transcript

Cold Open And Introductions

SPEAKER_07 0:34

I got my road to the face. I got my pro to get out free to the most going on. What's going on, Fizzro? What's going on? I'll crazy. Let me let me get my camera. My camera. Not the camera, but the camera. My camera. Okay. I'll praise it, man. Oh yeah, man. We uh get that boy.

SPEAKER_06 1:07

Get that boy in the background.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Alright. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Why do you got the whole why do you got the whole coffee pipe in here? Why are you drinking that a coffee plant, bro?

SPEAKER_06 1:36

I don't know why. First of all, hold on. This is a coffee cup, bro. This is TikTok coffee.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:58

Hey, bro, look, I'm trying to get my TikTok production going. You know what I'm saying? It's a tick, it's a cup.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Hey, why he just disappeared and pop back in with the coffee book? It's the coffee cup. Hey, all praises, man. These is my bro, Masheik. I'm my bro James, man. We make good music together, man. And y'all already know, man. This is the Spitcha Truth Podcast. It's your boy Abia, man. And hey, hold on, hold on. Yeah, man. We're about to get into it. We gotta talk about a little bit of everything, man. I got a lot of stuff on my mind today, man. Shabashalon's to the people that that that that honor the Sabbath and you know do they thing on the Shibashalon? Uh happy Saturday to everybody else. But without further ado, you know, we're about to get into it, man. Because yeah, I was like, I've been looking at a lot of things that's been going on out here, man. Stuff is crazy, man. Like it's real crazy.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

What'd you say, bro?

SPEAKER_06 3:00

My bad, bro. I can't I still can't fact that this food disappeared and came back with a whole coffee pot is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

I know, right? Like that one, it's like it was like magic.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Show the audience your coffee mug, bro. Show them your coffee mug one more time.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

Like coffee mug one more time, bro. Hey, tick, hey, tick tock gonna use me to endor for endorsing their products, you know. So we gotta clip that. You need to stay your ass off tick tock. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Yeah, as long as they paying me the the the to to to let them, you know, to promote their stuff on my on my you know, I should blur it out.

SPEAKER_06 3:50

So tick tock ain't gonna be trying to monetize it.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Right, bro. Man, I'm telling you, man. You already y'all already know how it is.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

That's insane.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

So, so man, how how everybody doing it, man? How y'all doing? Because y'all both down there in Texas, man. How y'all doing down there, man? Like, I heard it's a lot of a lot of stuff that's going on, you know, and like kind of it's real tension is down there. I mean, as far as with the politic politics and and just the everyday, you know, squander about life. Like, so uh how's everything going for y'all? You know what I'm saying? Y'all ain't gotta get too deep into you know y'all situation, but just you know what I'm saying, like tell us how you know everything, like the the the the the the everyday life of a Texan, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 4:45

They don't be bothering us too much, and they know what we got down here, so right.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Yeah, I mean ain't too much going on down here, dude. I mean there's been like there's there's been a lot of like ice raids and stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like ice been down here heavy, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, there's no there's no real I mean everybody kind of stays with himself, you know what I'm saying? I mean, because everybody knows somebody's somebody from the other party is packing.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

So nobody's really trying to everybody in Texas, like that's what that's what we make a joke about Texas. We make a joke about Texas, like we say that uh when you born in Texas, you born with a Bible and a gun. Like y'all automatically get guns down there, like you know what I'm saying? Like that's standard, huh?

SPEAKER_06 5:38

It's a must have. I mean, even though not a lot of not a lot goes on, but I mean you don't want to the the fact is is one day something could pop up and you be out there naked and then you in trouble. Man, I was one of them I didn't believe in guns, and but until I got one, then I'm like, hell yeah. Now I need another one.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

Right. It's like an addiction. Once you once you shoot that first shot, you be like, yeah, that adrenaline. It it it's in you. You be like, man, I want to go get a 50 cal nail.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Like I'm trying to put it like a nail.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

Say what now.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Hey, but but you know, like you just don't know, you can go to the grocery store. My shit my shit breaking up.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Yeah, kinda.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Y'all got me?

SPEAKER_03 6:33

Okay, here we go. Just keep on talking. Am I good? I know. My shit breaking up. Yeah, we good. Yeah, you good? There you go. It just popped back in. Yeah, you good, go ahead, bro. We listen. Am I good? Yeah, we good. Go ahead, bro. Yeah, just when he was like, are we good? Then it went right back down.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Am I good? In all fairness, okay. And in all fairness, bro, you you do gotta you do kinda gotta have one, you know, some kind of gun nowadays. Just because there's there's crazy sh shit going on. Like you go in the store, you can have your own. You know what I'm saying? Really, you don't even have they don't even have to really be a reason. Somebody just wants to stay his thinkers, you know what I'm saying? See what you got on you in there.

SPEAKER_06 7:38

I'm looking online. I'm looking online right now. I want a slingshot like King David.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

You gotta have it, just somebody, you know. Just protection in me. Not re-bush, but is it my internet?

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Yeah, you know, you chopping in and out, bro. You chopping in and out.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Yeah, I need to get close to it.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

There you go. That's better right ever. Whatever you just did, that's a whole lot better now.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

I don't feel like going all the way.

When Violence Looks Unthinkable

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Yeah, better right there. Yeah, why why he get why he get it together. Well, but I just I agree with y'all, man. Like I agree with y'all. I live in the midwest in Ohio, man, and uh yeah, man, it it it gets to the point where you gotta have that thing on you, like, you know what I'm saying? And if not, then like hey, you might just be something might just happen. You know what I'm saying? Like flipping without it, bro. Yeah, and and it's it's it's bad that that we have to, you know what I'm saying? We done got to this point, but I gotta think about like, you know, we we live in a first world country and we have these problems. Like, if you go over to Africa or somewhere like that, man, like those is third world problems, bro. We don't want nothing like that. We don't want nothing like that. I mean, I was just looking at looking at a video. It was the they have uh like some YNs over there. They call Bobo High Har Haram Bobo Bobo Haram. Uh they just they just kidnapped 400 people, women and children. 400 women and children. Yeah, at this table. And hold them like, yeah, we won't we want money from the government. Like, like, you know what I'm saying? Those is third world problems, bro. We don't want that. Like, I know I don't. Like, I'm just gonna be real. Like, uh, you know, I I'm from the hood, but I I don't want that type of problem. Like, the one it was interviewed interviewing some of them, and it was it was like, you know, no, no, no disrespect, but it was a white man there. And he was like, he was sitting there interviewing them and stuff like that. The one guy walked up and he said, he was nearer. He said, Man, the guy in the green jacket, he had a knife on him. He said, Man, he was about to stick me. And if he would have stuck me and killed me, he would have gone back a hero to his people. Like, and these what these was teenagers, man. Like these boys was they did, they couldn't have been, none of them couldn't have been over 20. And one of them was like, Man, I got a hundred bodies, I done killed a hundred Nigerians. This in Nigeria said I done killed a hundred Nigerians, I done raped seven women. Like, what? What? Like that is a milestone, huh?

SPEAKER_06 10:39

Almost like that's a milestone for them. Bro, killing all that, bro. Watch, watch. I'm gonna buy me a slingshot for sure.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

I'm gonna start just walking up like you know, we don't have to deal with that type of stuff, and I I think the most high that we that we you know, we live, we hate we just have our first world problems, like you know what I'm saying? Because like shit could get crazy, like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 11:11

It could be a lot of worse, it could be a lot of worse, our small problems. But to us, it's real big. But like I said, in Texas, uh everybody just minds their business. That's probably why. I mean, you got you got a group, you know, you got them groups of people in certain areas and certain places, but for the most part, it just be it just be normal stuff. You just you gotta have it just in case because you never know, especially women now, because you got these creepy men out here. I heard a story about um lady was walking through Target, she walked outside her car, and dude just snatched her right there in front of her car, like in broad daylight in the middle of the parking lot. So, you know, if she'd have been packing, whole different story. But if you're not the story, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, mine, mine, yo, you ain't gonna catch her without it. It's just what it is, right? It's what it is, so and for us it's small products, but a lot of people, but like you said, people buy buy one and then you want another one, they want the other one they say no, you gotta you done pulled your all your all your clothes out your closet, and you just got them hanging up on the wall, you know. Right, it's arsenal, yeah. Yeah, bro, especially them white folk that be having them underground bunkers and stuff. I really I feel like they boys have nukes under there, bro. They be having some illegal shit under there. That's what it seems like.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

They probably do see it. I wouldn't put it faster, but I've been looking at videos though. Man, it's funny that you said that, man. I've been looking at them but them underground bunker videos, man, and some of them be elaborate as hell. Like they they dig it, they take their yard up, but they put the containers down in there.

SPEAKER_06 12:55

It's like what using connects, they use like connects and uh cut holes holes in the ends and just place four or five of them in a row, yeah. And then you just go in there. I don't know why they're doing that. I mean, you drop a bomb on the ground, it's gonna go right through that little baby, little baby bunker you you got. Right, they don't even be digging. Oh, they'd be like, like you'll you'll dig down a little bit, and it's like, bam, put the put all the containers right here. Oh, yeah, you're like maybe maybe a foot under the ground, maybe. When you think a bomb that's dropped in your backyard, bro, is that little connex is gonna be able to stand it? These bombs are knocking down skyscrapers and stuff that's like meant to be so high up, right, and meant to take the wind blow, the heavy rains, the heavy snow, and they're meant to to keep them up. You telling me that a bomb, if they knock those down, you telling me that a bomb's not gonna knock down every knock right through the center of your bunker. Come on, bro. Let's be honest. Ain't no way. He's gonna let them try to figure it out. Something's going on with his computer.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

So, yeah, that's why I just I'm about to send him another invite. We gonna get him back on. Yeah, that's that's cool. I mean, we we we you know it's all love. I just I you know uh when I be looking at certain videos, man, like especially when they be having those those bomb videos, they be like, man, for real. Like, y'all know y'all, y'all know that stuff ain't those bombs, man. Don't them damn underground bunkers, they be like 12 feet under the ground, like bomb hit, man.

SPEAKER_06 14:38

Yeah, as a matter of fact, it's crazy because I seen it a couple weeks ago when me and my wife were going into town, and we get we have to you have to get on a small highway to get to like Walmart and all that. So as we're driving, as we're driving down on this highway, I look up to my right. I'm driving, there's a billboard that says we build underground bunkers, and I just be looking like for what we gonna charge somebody a million dollars for something that they don't need. Like, I'm just looking at like it's just we build safe underground bunkers. I'm like, Yeah, you like if they build underground bunkers that don't get vaporized. Nothing is safe, bro. If I could dig a shovel into the dirt without any force, you really think that that little bunker is gonna stop a bomb, man. You need to be probably 800 feet down if you want to stop a bomb, maybe, maybe, right? Can't be a hundred feet, you can't be ten feet on the ground. I can dig a 10-foot hole, bro, in two seconds without struggling. You think a bomb's not gonna come on now?

SPEAKER_03 15:44

He said, I can dig a 10-foot hole.

SPEAKER_06 15:46

Seriously, bro, how how long would it take you to dig 10 feet down, bro? Not very deep. You saw the movie holes, bro. They did it in like two hours, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Two hours, right?

SPEAKER_06 15:55

So you tell me an only round bunker gonna stop a bomb, bro? Stop it.

Iran Israel And War Motives

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Ain't no way, man. Ain't no way. Not not some of these bombs they got now, but but see, this is the thing, man. Like, and and and speaking of bombs, let's just get into like you know, some of the topics I wanted to talk about. Like, so how how do y'all feel about what's going on over there in Iran right now? Like, just so I'm gonna ask the question, I'm gonna give my perspective, and then I, you know, let y'all get y'all respectful. Okay. So, how do y'all feel about what's going on over there in Iran, what Trump is doing, and just that whole, you know, Israel, Paca, what is it, Gaza, you know, Palestinian, like, I mean, I'm gonna say this, y'all. It's a lot of it's a lot of crazy stuff going on over there in the east, right? A lot of crazy shit. Now, I'm not just talking about like the Middle East, I'm talking about Africa, you know, uh, the UK, uh, Asia, Russia, all over there. It's it's war. The Middle East is just going, it's just going crazy. Like the East is going crazy. And while we over here in the West is chilling, like chilling, like you don't hear too much, like, you know, of that stuff, even, even with you know, with what's the name? Nico Arawa. And and and and uh and uh what is the other one, the murder capital or the world, what is it down there in central, no, that's that's it's not Central America, it's South America, but Chile, Brazil, you don't you're not hearing a lot, not even about the Mexican car. The Mexican card tails ain't turning up, like how they turn up over there in the east. And and the fact of the matter is that like what what people have to understand, and what I see from my perspective is that we always when America gets into something, they they have an interest in that asset. You know what I'm saying? That's why they was over there in the Middle East the first time because they wanted the oil. That's why they're over there now because they wanted the oil. But see, this is the thing we have to understand too, it's not just the oil. Because when I looked at, you know, the the richest, the richest continents on the earth, richest countries on the earth, America was number one, was number two. Russia was number one as far as like resources and minerals and stuff like that. So I'm like, well, why do we we don't need oil from over there? If if if Saudi Arabia and Iran is like number number four, number five, then you know, like how was it what is it that we need from there? So I it it raises a it raises a suspicion for me when we are over there fighting for we're over there fighting for for for land and fighting, they say we fighting for oil, but and fighting for this, but when when when Nett and Ben Yahoo, which I call him Larry, because that's what the motherfucking name is. Like he he he's not he's not an askenazi or uh or not not an askenazi. He is not, well yeah, ashkenazi. He's not an askenazi, he is a German. You know what I'm saying? And he just like he basically tethered himself to the Jewish people. You know what I'm saying? Rose in the ranks, just like how, you know, the uh just like how some Africans come over here and tether towards to us and get into the politics and you know, undermine, he did the same thing. And now we have America have some kind of he has something on America. He has something on America for us to be, you know, so shook about this dude and and uh and trying to figure out like going over there and helping him because we all know like I'm gonna just be real. We all know that he's a piece of crap. We all know, we all know that the the the the the Israelis have been enslaving, enslaving, yeah, that's a lot better right there, Pill. But that yeah, but we we know that they've been enslaving the Palestinians for years. And not just years, but decades, and not just decades, but centuries. And now they're they're getting their just desserts. They were getting their just desserts with Iran. And I think that I think that America got in the way of the most high's you know, retribution. Like they getting in the way, and America is go get go feel the wrath of the most high after he finished with Israel. That's what I think. Me personally. Watch out. Well, before before before you answer my shake, let me catch J Pill up. So what what what I the question I asked is that how do you feel about what's going on with Iran and you know Israel and Palestine and just all over there because the the East seems like it's just like they acting a fool. It seemed like like it's just a lot of stuff going on over there in the east. You know, we had the Africans in Nigeria. Nigeria's just been the headlines for the longest. They just had the whole rape fest over there. You know what I'm saying? Well, no, Great Fest, my bad, because I'm putting it on TikTok. But they just had the whole Great Fest over there, and and they was, you know, trying to, you know, talk about how, you know, they they was telling people the one guy was like, well, we at least we told people to stay in the house for seven days. Like, you justifying grape. Like, okay, whatever. But we're talking about the war, and as far as like what what's how do you feel about what what Trump is doing and what's going over there, going on over there in the east.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

But I really don't keep up with the bro. This is my my my answer is the same way this last time, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't I don't I don't want too much of politics for me to it even give my opinion it there's there's too much there's too much going on for me to even know where to start right I I don't I don't have Facebook anymore I don't have Instagram I don't have TikTok I got YouTube like that's about it so if it's if it's not on my YouTube feed I don't know anything about what going on so it's kind of hard to keep up with everything because I it feels like everything is moving so fast.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Yeah, yeah, it is, yeah, it is, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Like it's it's moving too fast for for somebody who didn't start keeping up with it when Trump got elected the first time. Like, you won't know now what's going on. You missed the whole thing. The only thing you know is there's a new war that got started, gas prices are crazy as hell, you know what I'm saying? And nobody really nobody really knows what's going on with the with the fine with the finances of anybody because nobody making enough money to live, you know what I'm saying? That's the that's the the only thing that I know.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Right, and that that that's a that's an interesting perspective. We're gonna go back to that. I'm gonna put a pin in that right there. What you think, Meshek? What you feeling, bro?

SPEAKER_06 23:24

So part of it, I I do agree with JP. I don't I don't dig too deep into it, but what I will say, and I will censor myself only because of where you're putting this, but I believe that it's a cover-up for the certain book that was found after a certain murder happened, and a certain people person's name is in that that their book, and I feel like that person is using this Iran stuff as a cover-up. The reason I say that is because once that certain data was leaked, now all of a sudden, oh, let's go drop a bomb over here. Oh, we want a peace. Don't don't do nothing bad because or we're gonna kill a bunch of people. I think it's a cover-up to for the people that are blind in this country, drunk off wine, as they say. The it's just to veer the vision off of them certain people and that certain stuff that's going on with that book that was found. So, as far as that, I mean, yeah, I I really believe that Trump is the antichrist to begin. The reason I say that, and I can back up what I say, the reason I say that is because I feel like he's the stuff he's doing that he's making Americans think that oh, he loves us, he loves his country, they look like like he's a god figure, like oh, he's saving us, he's saving the world. He's saying nope, he's not. And revelations talks about a certain figure coming down and being like a guide to people, you know. I'm not saying that he's that one person that you know when when Yahweh kicked Satan out of heaven, he comes down on earth and portrays a body. I'm not meaning that I don't think that that's him exactly, but I will say is he is portraying that certain figure as far as he's doing things for the people that would make the people love him so much that they they're blind to everything else that he does. Like, for instance, he went with you know, he's uh I'm gonna be honest in Texas, the whole LGBT that that that is not not cool in in our in this state at all. I mean, yeah, they let him get away with it, but Trump went rid of you know, stuff like that. The statues, everybody thought, oh, it's so cool, let's go destroy the statues of the people that own slaves, let's do that, you know. And the ice thing is to me, seems like where the Bible says that you know, everybody must go back to their own country. There's certain things that he does that I'm feeling like okay, could be what Yahweh wanted to happen, but I also see it as he's doing things to get people to like him, to love him, and to look up to him as if he's some guy. Like he's like, Oh, I love the Jews, and oh, I I love Jesus, and I love this, and I love the church, and I love all that. But I don't believe that he, for instance, matter of fact, I seen a video earlier in his inauguration, he couldn't even put his hand on the Bible. That doesn't make any sense to me at all. So I just see it as like he's just trying to win people over so he can just all that stuff that he did, like the the the the book and all that, so he could push that to the side. And they're like, No, he would never do that, even though there's picture proof, video proof, and all that. I just feel like it's all a cover up. They dropping bombs just to cover up so people be more focused on what's going on in Iran, other than what's happening with the misuse of the younger generation that's been going on for years and sent over to these certain places to do certain things. And I feel like all that just to cover up. He's just dropping bombs just to veer our attention away from him, is what I is what I see that whole thing as.

Money Stress And Political Fatigue

SPEAKER_02 27:13

That's interesting. We go get we we go, I'm gonna unpin what I just pinned with J Pill because that that that's deep, bro. That's you say that. What was you about to say, Pill? Like he was about to say something, bro. You got something to say?

SPEAKER_00 27:26

No, no, I'm I'm good. I'm I'm I'm no go go ahead. Go ahead. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'll time in here here in a bit. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Okay, so just to the piggyback off of what you was just saying about, you know, like like we we we do got a lot going on in America right now. We have a lot going on in America right now. It's it and it's it's it's getting to a boiling point. It's getting to a boiling point. And a lot of people are tired of working and and not not being able to, you know, to live the life that they like live comfortably like they was living in 2020, 2019, 2018. You know what I'm saying? We we was in corona, but we was motherfuckers could afford bills then. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you was get like I remember I got like two or three raises in 2019, like you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's it's hard. Like now people are saying, oh man, I'm not, we not, we not living, we not working to stay afloat, we working to catch up. And and that's deep. When one of my friends said that she was, she was, and she said it with her heart, and I could feel it. I felt what she said because it was like, wow. And I feel the same way. I'm just gonna be real. Like, I feel the same way. So that yeah, we do definitely have a lot to worry about in America. Not even just with with immigration or you know, or or crime, or uh just man, we got so many aspects, so many things we need to clean up in-house for us to be worried about what's going on in Iraq when Iraq don't even give a damn about us for real. Like, like they don't care, like Israel don't really care about us.

SPEAKER_06 29:22

They was quiet, they weren't even bothering us. That's why I said it's a cover-up. They weren't, you didn't hear nothing like, oh, Iran told President Trump this, and oh, the Venezuelan. I don't even feel like the Venezuelan did. I feel like that started from us over there triggering them, and then they Trump's like, Oh, well, let me go, let me make the the proud, rich, white Americans happy. Let me go snatch them out of his country. Like, all I believe that all that was a cover up because if you notice, stuff like that only happens when certain things come out and certain darkness is brought to the light. Then he's like, Oh, oh snap. My name is where? Hey, Iran, bow, drop a bomb on you. Hey, uh, Israel. I mean, uh, yeah, matter of fact, in the peace treaty, he's like, Yeah, you know, let there be peace in the Middle East, and then what happens? Israel goes and drops bombs over there. Like, it's I feel like it's just all a cover up. Him and whatever that guy's name you said, that German, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

Net and bad thing, Yahoo.

Africa Resources And Accountability

SPEAKER_06 30:19

Yeah, it's it's the same. Like I said, he said, You you got to the end of the day to tell me to sign this peace treaty or whatever, and then we won't kill half your people, and then as soon as they agree to it, then here goes Israel dropping bombs over there. That that doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

They've been trying to take that land for the longest, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

And everybody wants Africa, everybody wants everybody wants the resources that Africa is. So now everybody's messing with Africa. It's like leave people alone. Leave people alone, bro.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Everybody's here's the thing, bro, with Africa. This is what this is what people need to understand about Africa. The colonizers didn't mess up Africa, Africa's Africans did, bro. Africans have a big part, and they need to take self-accountability for fucking their country up. We no other country went over there and destabilized them, or nothing, or no colonizers went over there. Colonizers went over there and actually made Africa look good and actually built it up because a lot of them countries don't have infrastructure, like Nigeria, like Kenya, like Chad, like Air Tres. They don't have infrastructure, so there it's a shithole. Like, just be real. Africans have to take self-accountability for what they did. They they were signing all these backdoor deals with with all these other with the colonizers, and now the the 360 deal done came around, and then they done that that the African government has got money, the high officials has got money, and they they didn't give a fuck about the country, they don't give a fuck about the people, they don't give a fuck about nothing except for their pockets. Yeah, and that's why Africa looks like that because Africans. You know, one thing that that that that that that sets us up, us American blacks apart from Africans is that our oppressor don't look like us. Yeah, our oppressor don't look like us. They oppressor looks like them, they oppressor live next door to them. Yeah, the motherfucker live next door to their ass, like you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, Africa got to clean Africa gotta clean Africa up. We we've been sending, we just sent like we sent seven, seven, it was like seven tons of rice to uh Somalia, put it in a warehouse, and then all of a sudden the warehouse was like bombed up and destroyed. And they talking about some, oh, we don't know what happened. So then they come back and say, Oh, we want to, we want y'all to give us give us some more. We we need more foreign aid. America, like, no, hell no, we ain't we done gave y'all seven billion. Africa is fucked up because of Africans, like and and they will sit over here and say, Oh man, America came over here and did America don't need nothing from Africa. Nobody need only people that need something from Africa is the French and China. Because when I looked at this same, the same uh chart, when I looked at the same chart, China was like like damn near like what it was like seventh in the richest country and the richest country and resources in the world. So America don't need nobody. We don't have to go destabilize your shit. We just go take it because we can, like you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 33:40

Yeah, well, you see, China's been China's been trying to take over Africa, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Yeah China and Russia, China and and France, yeah, they've been just kicked the France up out of there, and France, like once they kick the France up out of North Africa, France started to get destabilized, and they they they stopped dropping all that because they believe Africa drive. America don't. We help Africa just like we helped Africa, South Africa with the apartheid, just like we helped get Nelson Mandela out. South Africans left Nelson Mandela in jail for 27 years. We went over and got him out, like hey, get this motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? Americans, yeah. So yeah, Africa, man, Africa is a whole nother conversation, bro. I can go days and days on they they need to clean, they need to clean their fucking act up. Like Africa need to clean their fucking act up, and it and if they can't get to that point, then the country, because nobody wants Africans in their country. You go everywhere, man, everywhere. Don't nobody want them in there because they they come and they destroy, you know what I'm saying? But that's a whole nother conversation. But definitely, I feel that you know that yeah, man, we don't we don't need we don't have an interest in in this war. I don't understand why we over there, and because we got a lot going over here, yep, yep, that's what it is. America always trying to be their police.

SPEAKER_06 35:14

America always gonna be in everybody's business, they want to be the media, they want to be they want to be the ones holding people back, let them fight. Let them fight if they want that smoke, let them have it.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

That's what I say.

SPEAKER_06 35:27

Let them fight, let them destroy themselves. They ain't over here messing with us when we got problems. When we had them Venezuelans holding up the holding up the hotel room, I ain't seen nobody else talking about some hey, let me send troops over there to help y'all out. So, why are we always in people's business? Nobody was like, Hey, Venezuelan was like, Hey, let's go get our people out of there. But no, but yeah, we didn't want us to, but yeah, if something goes down in another country, America's like, Oh, let me go help, let me go help. No, leave them people alone, leave them alone, that's they business. That's somebody going on over here. They started that job, let them hear about that. Oh, let's go help, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Right, y'all hear about that Kenyan, that Kenyan man that was here in America and he he did that mass shooting. I think it was in Utah, somewhere like that.

SPEAKER_06 36:18

Yeah, illegal, he was illegal. They just letting people up in here though, but then they want to take away. But here's the thing I get about that though. They want to take away the illegal immigrants that are proving themselves in our society, let's say like that. Like they come over here, they want to work, they send money home to their families, but yet we're trying to get rid of the people that are helping our economy, the illegals that are you know doing what they need to do, paying to I know people that's let me not say it, but I know people that's you know what I'm saying, and they pay taxes, they do all that with no problems. But yeah, well, bro, I'm gonna have to stop it.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Because paying taxes is not is not economic contribution to a country.

SPEAKER_06 37:08

Because I mean I was getting I was getting to the rest of the point. Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So we want to get rid of the people that basically do what Americans do, but yet where was that rush? Like I said, when Venezuela was over here, they didn't rush to go to go get rid of them people. They're attacking the wrong type of illegals, is my point I'm trying to make. Is that the ones that come over here and do shootings, bombings, hold hotels hostage, all this, it takes them forever. Man, how long was them people bound up in in in that hotel room for like two weeks? Yeah, a couple weeks, yeah. But yet the ones that come over here just to just to get a little dose of this American life, they want to send them back to their country, but they let people like like that stay. That doesn't make sense to them. Because if if that shit with Venezuela and them, they coming over here take man, they would have been over there blow, man, we would have been sniping somebody 300 yards, bro. But but yet the ones that come over here to to work and to to get a little a little glimpse of this world, they want to like send them all back. I just I can't agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

I definitely agree with you on that. Yeah, I I agree. I feel that I feel that that I'm gonna just say this illegal is illegal, bro. Like we just gotta come. Right. And and and the the fact of the matter is that it's a lot of decent working, hardworking people that come over here and they're illegal, and they just don't have the funds or the resources to be able to. And those are the ones that's like seeking asylum, like from their country, because their country is like on some movement. Yeah, but and and those are the ones that come over here and they they can when I say go ahead, bro.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Are we a cash topic rule fans, bro? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Uh, because a lot a lot of times that that's what's a lot, a lot of times that's what they say is that the reason why they want to come over here is that it's because their country is so fucked up. That's not true at all. You know what I'm saying? They show like a small minute of what actually is going on over there. Not every not every city in in Mexico is dealing with cartels and and shit like that. That's the that's the part that they show Americans for them to believe that that's how everything is going on, to give them sympathy to say, oh well, now we gotta let them in because this is what's going on in the entire country. Right? Okay, so for instance, my dad has been going to Mexico and coming since he since probably before me and my me that I was born, you know what I'm saying? And right that has has not been an issue. My my dad travels freely from the US to Monterey. Like, I'll say probably we'll say maybe 10 times out of the year. Whoa, it might be less, but we'll we'll throw that number out there. 10 times out of the year. You know how many times my dad has been stopped by the cartel? Probably none in his entire none, you know what I'm saying? So and I have family that comes back and forth, has been going cut freely without any disturbance from the cartel. Why is it that that's the only reason that they want to say the excuse that they want to say in order for them to get asylum? The EV thing, because that's what they show over there, and that's what they know. Now, am I saying every country every city in Mexico is like that? Of course not. There are some cities that do have cartel activity going on that's heavy. You know what I'm saying? But not every city in Mexico is like that, bro. That that's the thing that we have to we have to be aware of because once they start using that, then everybody starts using that. And it's probably maybe 0.0001 percent that's actually dealing with it. So I just find that up. They don't go through that. That's not a thing that that my family goes through. You know, when my mother, when my mother was alive, her and my dad would go more frequently. And they never got stopped. Now, when they shut down the border, that that's what was was one of the heavier times when there was part-time activity right there at the border, but did they get stopped? They did not get stopped. So that we have to recognize that's what they show us, right? That's what they they popularize on TV in order for that in order for Americans to get sympathy to say, oh yeah, man, it's that bad. Okay, never mind. Now we we gotta let them in. Right. But it's it's not like that. It's not like that at all. We gotta wake up to that.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

I'm glad, I'm glad you cleared it up.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

I don't know, I don't I don't keep up with the politics, and and I don't, I don't, I don't really watch, I don't watch the news, I don't do none of that stuff. But somebody who has relatives that come back and forth from Mexico freely, it's not like that. That's one thing that we have to we have to recognize is that it's not that's not it.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

That's what's up. So you say so you say that that that's just the the the because it was already like spoken or unspoken like thing, like coming from Mexico, like just to seek asylum. So you seek an asylum, and that's the easiest way to get into America and you know get the ball rolling with the green card and all that stuff like that. That's what so basically it was a learned thing to pass down.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

Good. I I'll I'll say this. Now, it is is Mexico poor. Mexico is is poor, right? What what I'm pretty sure we make in a in a in a week a bi-weekly paycheck, it'll take them you know a couple months to make that.$100 over there will stretch you, will stretch you plenty. When I was on disability and I was and I was going over there and I was getting$500 a week, bro, I was I was living it up over there. You know what I'm saying? So the US dollar would stretch. Now, is it the same thing now? I don't I don't really know because I know the US dollar is is a is a piece of toilet paper now, right? Um, so I don't know if it's the same thing, but but it that's why they want to come over here. It's just some circumstances are harder to to live through. And it's not like they're all living on the streets and nobody has money to to to not eat and they they don't have food, they don't have things. No, it's not like that. It's not like that. It's it's Same thing with Africa. You know what I'm saying? I have friends who who who live in Africa, who who live in Nigeria, Kenya, all these places, other artists that I've worked with. And bro, they show me their hometowns, bro. And are they poverty? Yes. Are they completely poverty to where you know they don't have clothes on their back and and they're barefoot and stuff like that? Bro, it's it's it's not that, bro. The the infomercials that they show, you know what I'm saying, with the eyes of the angel, where it's like they show these these flies all in a face.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

Yeah, that's that's that's going too much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

I I got a I got a couple of things. I'll say this the the 10 cents, the 10 cents or 25 cents that you want to donate to a child over there is not going to them, so it ain't doing shit for them.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

Yeah, that shit was going to Sally Stoner's. Yeah, no, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Yeah, I got a couple friends that that that that's in Africa, and they show me they be going around in different countries of Africa and they like they do videos and it it ain't empire, it's impoverished, yeah. But it ain't as bad as like they make it seem. Some some countries are though, I can say. Some countries are, but for the most part, like it it could be better. It it if Africans unite and clean up Africa, Africa could be great. Africa could be a first world country. But they take the they take the they take the resources out of the ground, and the government and the the corrupt officials use it for their own good and their own their own benefit, and it just bleeds Africa dry, and it don't help the the citizens, it don't help the people, it don't help the land. So, yeah, it's Africa got a lot. They gotta they gotta worry about what's going on over there instead of coming over here thinking they can you know do whatever they think they about to do, like they need to stay in a country and fix that shit. So let me open some up.

SPEAKER_06 46:00

Let me open some up a bit.

SPEAKER_00 46:02

And I and I will say this. I I will I will say this, right? Ms. I didn't mean to cut you off, bro. But I will say this. Though the people who feel like this, the the people that feel like this country is shit and it is not getting any better, and they don't they they're like, I don't want to be here. Take a DNA test, find out where you from, then take your ass back to wherever it is you came from, so you don't have to deal with the shit that we got going on over here. It's just plain and simple because a lot of people they're like, Oh, America, America is is a shit country, right? And of course, it's a younger generation where they're like, Oh, you know, it's it's not it's not a good place to be in. Well, if you don't like it, you know, I'm pretty sure there's somebody else who would love to take your place. Go ahead. You know, go ahead and go back to where you're from.

SPEAKER_06 46:54

Trade somebody from here, from somebody from over there.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Give them a chance, give them a chance right to to build the to live the American dream.

Government People And Complacency

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Right. I think that I think that we take we take certain things for granted. You know what I'm saying? Because we we live in a first world country and we have first world problems, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I ain't got no toilet paper. That's a first world problem. You go to another country, they ain't got a damn toilet. Like, you know what I'm saying? They they wipe their hand, they wiping their hands with their hand, or or leaves or some shit. Like, I don't know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So we we I think we do take a lot of things for granted. Like, and I'm not gonna lie, bro. I like I'm an American through and through. That's all I know. Like, I'm I'm an Israelite, but all I know is America. Like, I don't know nothing about no land of Canaan, no, no, no, nothing of that, bro. Like, I'm just gonna be real. Like, this is where my ancestors like were here. Like, they were born here, they died here, they they had us here. Like, so I can't say that I can't that from anywhere else. Like, so I couldn't run. I can't go nowhere and be like, man, I I don't want to live in America no more. Where the hell am I go? Like, where am I gonna go? Where you gonna go, Michek? Where you gonna go? Where y'all gonna go? Where we gonna go? America is like one of the best countries in the world. Like, real shit. Like, I it took for me, it took a while for me to really understand that. I'm 44 years old, man. And when I when I started to really understand this was like this year. Like, man, I go anywhere else, man. I ain't go, I ain't gonna be afforded the freedom that I have here. It's a rap. Like, you go, you ain't gonna be able to say what you want. You go to Korea and get on, get on their TikTok or on their internet, talk about the damn Korean president or yeah, watch they come kick your dough in and kill your kill your ass. You know what I'm saying? They we got it so good, we could we could call Trump a dickhead and nothing happens. You know what I'm saying? Nothing happens. Like, yeah, the freedom of speech is beautiful, like, but the thing of it is is that like I I definitely like feel that you know we we need to start like being more, you know, grateful to to the to the freedoms that we do have, what little freedoms we have, because we we not truly fruit because of the American government. It ain't the American America is not a shit country, it's just a government that's shit. That's it. Like, that's what I see. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 49:44

But uh, you you you do you think do you think it's the do you think it's the government that that that makes this country a shit comp a shit country, or do you think it's the people?

SPEAKER_02 49:56

I think it's the government, man, for real.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Because at the same time, because at the same time, like we don't do anything to change it.

SPEAKER_03 50:08

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's there's a there's a small minute group. I mean, there's a small minute group of people who who who say, man, the it's the government, it's the government. But I mean, we all seen those cartoon movies, you know what I'm saying? Like, I had seen a video on YouTube about about the the movie of ants, right? It's a it's uh Disney movie, right? My you know what I'm saying? And it was about this one little ant who was trying to convince the rest of the colony to stick up to the grasshoppers, you know what I'm saying? And it was a very, very good point that he was trying to make. Like, if we all stand together, we can overthrow the grasshoppers, right? You know what I'm saying? So I I think that's the that's the mentality that that we should start taking. I mean, it's it's gonna be called it's gonna be kind of hard because some people feel like, oh man, this is just life now. Like this is what it is in the car that was dealt. And yeah, I I I do I think I think we get we get used to uh we get used to the the a certain a certain lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? Like people uh for instance there there's a lot of people who who who get on section eight who don't need it, you know what I'm saying, and they stay there, and they have no intention of getting off. There's there's people there's people who who lose their jobs, they get on unemployment, and they they have no intention of getting off. You know what I'm saying? Those are come those are those are small portions of the of a problem. When you do that shit and you allow them to continue to live like that, the government's not the problem, it's us. The government just enables the problem, which is us. But a lot of people don't say that, a lot of people will say, Oh, what's the government's issue? It it's not the government's issue, it's the issue because if we don't change it and if we don't decide to stop taking the money for section eight, right? Or start stop taking the money for food stamps and stop taking the money from unemployment, like they're gonna keep giving it. It's free money. We don't want free money. I like to see the extra overtime on my paycheck. You know what I'm saying? Like, who like doing that? That's free, that's free money. That's what I work for, but it's like when that bonus comes and and your check is$200,$2,500, and you see a three, four hundred dollar bonus on it, you like it was it was good. You know what I'm saying? I think it's not it's not the government's issue, it's it's an us issue because we don't like to take accountability and we don't want to stick up for ourselves, we don't want to get better at what we're doing and and get out of the complacency mode to actually get after it. And you know what we want to do is we want to live the we we want to live that glamorous lifestyle is what what a lot of these this younger generation wants to live, right? And that's the issue. I don't agree. But I don't think it's the government, and that's in my opinion, right? Y'all y'all might have something something else than what I believe, but that's what that's what I think.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

You know what? I agree with you, funny. Funny enough, I do agree with you because yeah, we we have been complacent, and and it it gets to a point where where now it's like okay, it's easy for us to just point the finger at the government and say it's it's them. I was looking at this video a couple weeks ago, and it I think it was either Beijing, it was somewhere in China, either China, it was one of them Asiatic countries where the Gen Zs, the Gen Z got sick of the damn government and was like, fuck this shit, we about to overthrow you motherfuckers, and they overthrew the government. Like, and now they just put whoever they want up in that motherfucker. Now everything running smoothly. So I'm like, man, that's crazy because that's crazy that you say that. And I always say this too, like, man, when when you look at other countries, man, and like when they when they when they get tired of they they they government officials and they leader, what do they do? Except for North Korea, because we know Kim Jong you ain't fucking around. He'll he'll bomb his own.

SPEAKER_06 54:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, and himself, he don't care. He don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

But when you look at all these other countries, man, when they get tired of their government, what they do? Coup, stage a coup. We about to take over.

SPEAKER_06 54:36

Yeah, but you ain't gonna be. Why is it that we can't do that?

SPEAKER_02 54:39

Like, we outnumber the government, we outnumber the government and our army. The American army is not gonna turn their guns on American citizens for for no matter the cost, they're not going to do that.

SPEAKER_06 54:57

Of course not.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

But you know, we can't, we why can't we just stage a coup if we but see? I think we get to that point. We get we not getting to the point of a coup, but we're getting to that point where people waking up like, man, we need to start voting these the right officials in to do what we need to get done in the government. But it's just so much fraud and so much like embezzlement and so much, so much corruption going on, man. It's it's it's like we had to just have to, we had to dismantle the whole government and just start fresh. And I think that's what we need to do for real. Like, so you're right, bro. You right. We have got complacent and it's our fault. Just like I was sitting there blaming the Africans, I could, I can blame us for the way America is. Like, yeah, we should have been done, been on this, like, man, like, and if we all get on cold, black, brown, and white, we all get on cold in this motherfucker, then we can take over. We can take over. Because I'm gonna just say this, bro. Like, it's a difference between the Ellis Islander immigrants and the Mayfly immigrants. Mayfly immigrants have been here, they predate the conception of America. They predate the Ellis Islands are the Germans, the the uh the uh the white past immigrants. They they what you what we what we call, you know, like the Africans that come over here and tether towards us, tethers. They're tethers. They came in, they came over here and started to look like y'all, mannerisms talk like y'all, and they the ones started the KKK. Like, as I'm starting to really look back on history and research, I'm glad you brought that up.

Culture Theft Food And Identity

SPEAKER_06 56:50

I seen uh what do they call that? Like a documentary on that. I'll send it to you. Wh somebody did a deep dive of the KKK and found out that it actually was started by a tribe, it wasn't a it wasn't a white tribe going against in people of color, it started with a colorful tribe. So the what was it? Ku, the coup, I think, is a serpent guide that this tribe believed in. So before white people took it and made it white power against all colors, it was actually the name of a tribe. Ku Klux Klan was actually the name of a tribe back like forever ago, and then you know, some lady did a story on it, and she was like, damn, white people stole the KKK from us too. So, like, it was like the coup is a is a is a is a is a snake, a name of a snake guy that they portrayed. I'll send you the video, you'll you'll you'll like it. But that just goes back to the fact that white people have like never been original at all. Everything that we do here in America, we have taken from another people or taken from another country. I'm sorry, and I say this wholeheartedly: a rap is not a taco, bro. It's just it's not it is what it is. We stole the crap, bro.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

JP said a rap is not a taco. Right, right, and the flyer, right? And the flyer tortilla that we use is not the flyer that they use.

SPEAKER_06 58:36

JP the rap is not a taco. Why are the that's what I'm saying? Is that I don't see maps. Exactly. America has gone to other people, stole their food, tried to make it their own. A subway sandwich is not a torta, bro. See what I'm saying? Like, we took other people's cuisines from their country and tried to remake them as ours, bro. I'm sorry, a rap will never be a taco, a taco cannot be replaced. Yeah, a burrito will never be a rap. That's what I'm saying. We go, we we still think some other people, still their culture, still this, that, and try to make it our own, and it doesn't work out. Just because you put Paco in the back making them does not mean it's a taco, you know.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

I'm saying, so it's just hey, this is why we had it don't make a Mexican dish conversation, it doesn't make it a Mexican dish, JP.

SPEAKER_06 59:29

A torta is not the same as a subway sandwich, bro. It's not, it's a torta is a torta. I know, I know what I'm saying is we go we steal things from other people and we try to remake it as our own, and it fails horrendously, it fails horrendously, bro. Only thing white people pop I believe that white people made is hot dogs.

SPEAKER_04 59:57

I'm not the one saying this, y'all. Just remember, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

Hey, I'm pretty sure if you do a deep dive, it cancel me. I'm pretty sure if you do a deep dive, that was stolen too. Probably the whole cancel.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:12

Oh, I know something we made. We made we made mayonnaise, we made mayonnaise, bro. I agree with that. We made mayonnaise.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:19

That's probably it. That was it. Y'all probably throw that too. First of all, who is y'all?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

First of all, y'all ain't still I really I really do think that that that that that the Mayfly immigrants have had a contribution, they helped build America, they helped build America. I I we can't take that from them. We can't, you know what I'm saying? Even though they wasn't on some old and slavery type shit, but we, you know, we because the Ellis Islanders didn't come until the after the conception of America, and once you know, New York was a you know a big, thriving, bustling city, like, you know what I'm saying, in the 1940s or some shit like that, 1900s, like late 1900s, like, but you know, the conception of America was in 1776. You know what I'm saying? And when when they did the the census and all that good stuff like that. But I definitely feel that that they have, you know, they have did they have they have an economic contribution such as such as the Mexicans. They have an economic contribution in America. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just gonna be real. A lot of a lot of other immigrants don't contribute to America, they bleed us dry. And because they they have in their mind that our country came over there and bled them dry. And I'm like, no, that's not the case. So why don't they say that's not the case? Like, just because it's just because the white man over here don't mean that it was a white man that that did what they did to y'all. Like, no, it's different, different types of white people, Europeans. Yeah, man, hell nah, man. Russian man, you you know how hard it is to be a citizen in Russia, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:15

Very bro, man. Have you seen that? Have you seen their army, bro? That that military over there, man. Oh, of course, like videos of the military training, yeah, bro. They be spinning on their hands military training over here, bro. Yeah, they got real military training over there, bro. Man, they be hitting each other in the stomach and shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:38

Yeah, they don't play, man. They have some Bruce Lee stuff going on over there. Yeah, you seen that video where they was hitting each other in the stomach, like I said, boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

Them motherfuckers, they they got bullet food skin, man. You shoot them, that shit probably bounced off. For real. Yeah, they ain't no joke, man. Like, that's why, that's why one, that's why we know we have to be a close ally with them because they a superpower. They the they the only superpower that they can really stand face with us. You know what I'm saying? Everybody else needs the UN. Like, and NATO. Like, now that we ain't in NATO, like, it's like shit, what? Like, we standing by ourselves. But see, I think, honestly, I really do think that, you know, that the West, it's gonna be a West, uh, Western hemisphere and East. If it's gonna be a world war again, it's gonna be the West against the East. After after Iran destroys Israel, because Israel's going to get destroyed, they're they're they're they're gone. That that's just that's they're they're gone. Like, we're just gonna be real, they're gone. After they get destroyed, then Iran is going to be looking to the West. And this ain't what they want. Like, this ain't they see when when when other countries get you know, get invaded, their citizens are not armed. So they can't fight back. You come over here, you're not gonna make it past New York. You're not you're not going to make it past the coast, you're not gonna get within 300 miles inside of America before you get shot by a thousand a hundred thousand Americans with man, especially down in down in the south with them good old boys with them them pickup trucks that got the American flag in the back. Yeah, man, you think they you think they about to let you come in the country and do what you want?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:47

What you're doing over here, boy. That's all you're gonna hear.

Racial Tension And Local Reality

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

And next thing you know, just these motherfuckers live to fucking stockpile ammo. They ready to show you. Come on, now like that's one of the reasons why America has not been, you know, and everybody knows this in the world. Everybody knows this. So they try to come over here and plant secret sales so they can try to take us in, take us down within. But that's that don't even work either, for real, for real. Like, you know, sometimes it do, but sometimes it don't. Like, so what do y'all feel about what if what do y'all feel about the racial tension that's going on in America right now?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

Because it is racial tension.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

Yeah, but I think it's at an all-time high right now. I you think it's at an all-time high? I think not an all-time high, but I think that it's it's higher than it was in the lab the last 10, 10, 10, 15 years.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:41

Like, it's like we're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:43

Yeah, you know, you know what's you know what's weird, Via?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:46

Oh, what's that?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:48

You know what, you know what's weird? Like, I don't I don't know, I don't know how it is over there in Houston where where where Masek is at, and I don't know, you know, I don't know how it is over where you at. But down here. We really don't have that. You know what I'm saying? Because there's not like the the the only I wouldn't even say that because like we we don't we don't deal with that down here, you know what I'm saying? And like the the um the type of people who would look down at us would would be the like the rich people, but them motherfuckers they stay hidden, you know what I'm saying? Like you you you can't tell who's who out here, but like as far as getting like the racial tension out here in New Broncos, we we really don't got that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's kind of going about their business. I I know I know the bigger cities, like um, I don't even know if in San Antonio people deal with that. You know what I'm saying? I I know in Austin people don't deal with that, but so like here, where like the class around areas, we don't we don't really deal with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

Okay, but let me rephrase it because I okay, I get it. Like it it really isn't like at an all-time high because I'm gonna say this rest of peace to our ancestors, but all the boomers are pretty much dead. All the people that had that deep rooted hated hatred and racism in them from both sides, it's pretty much gone. Well now it's the zillennials. The zillennials are we the oldest, we the oldest generation now. And then you got the millennials, Gen Z, and then Alpha. You know what I'm saying? And the younger generations, they like, man, like race is a social construct. They they so-called woke. Race is a social construct and this and this and that. So they not really even seeing, you know, but you still have some that are like they're they're they're racist because they're dickheads. They they're not racist because it was taught to them, because their grandmothers and their grandfathers are dead. Who was gonna teach it to them? If they if their mothers did, mothers and their fathers didn't teach it to them, then their grandparents are dead. They can't teach it to them. So they just learning it off of the internet or or I hate to say it, experience. Because I'm just gonna be real, like, it's a lot of bad black people. It's a lot of fucked up black people, like, and they make a lot of, they make the the majority of the they make our community look bad because it's a small amount, but they focus just like they with every other community, they focus on the negative. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, we uh, but yeah, it's a lot of fucked up black people. I can say that. Like, and it's and those are the ones that I'm gonna just be real and I'm gonna be candid. Those are the ones that we call niggas. I'm a black person, and yeah, and we have we we we make a dis we make a we make a clear dis clear conception between the two. We know that them niggas, yeah, we can't, those are some ignorant motherfuckers. They ain't gonna be the the right, the most right, and they go be on some bullshit. But decent, hardworking black people that go to work, take care of their families, you know, start businesses, be uh and and and show love and push that unity, that's what you know. We don't we don't get to see that a lot because of course negativity, sex, and violence and and this sin and evil shit this sells and it's it's clickable, you know. But I definitely can say that the the racial tension it is there, I can tell it, but I think that it's someone or something that's trying to push it to an all-time high. I'm gonna say that. It's trying to be pushed to an all-time high.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

So what now? You know what a B, I can say this, I can say this. I think I think like as a as a as a Hispanic, we don't really grow up with like that. You know what I'm saying? We really don't grow up with the the mentality of racism or racist or race at all. You know what I'm saying? We just we get up in the morning, we're going to work. Like that that's the mentality we we we grow up with is you get up in the morning, you go to work. Like that's the mentality that we we grow up with. But I guess I guess as a as a black man, I guess, or as a race of black African-American American, however you want to put it, I think that's where it's more and and whites. I mean, I I don't know. I I know I have friends who they kind of dealt with that, or it's open, it's more open to them. But like as a Hispanic, I I don't that's not one of those things that that you grow up with. Racism was isn't really a thing, not even when you're older, because it's like, all right, that you know, my me and Mosek, Mishek, how long have we been doing music? Six years, five years? Yeah, five or six years. And you know what I'm saying? Me and a Via, we we've been doing music for what four years, something like that? Race wasn't even uh wasn't even a construct. It wasn't even it it's it's it wasn't even of importance, you know what I'm saying? So to some people they just experience it more. But I think like you come, you grow up a little bit, you have experiences, it's like, oh well shit, not not every white person is is bad, not every black person, you know, thinks the same way the the last motherfucker died. You know what I'm saying? I I think I think it's your perception, I I think it's the way you perceive things. If you want to grow up and see race, you go and see it. Or you grow up and see see the next man right next to you getting after it just like you is. It don't matter if he was like you orange, purple, green, or blue. You know what I'm saying? You just gonna see a man right next to you getting after it. Yeah, racism isn't really a thing. You just you just know, hey man, that's my homie, he gets after it just like I do. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:53

Right. What what you what you feel about it, Michael? Because I I I I really want to hear your take on it, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:01

So what you what you feel? I mean, as as here, it's it's it's not a race thing here, though. So in Houston and surrounding areas, it's same race crimes out here. It's black people don't like black people, white people don't like white people, Mexicans don't like Mexicans. For me, it's like an inside, it's like an in-house battle, war between whites and whites, blacks and blacks, Mexicans, Mexicans, Chinese and Chinese, like they're all doing it. It's we don't deal with so much as um as uh you know as a race thing here. It's just in Houston, it's more like where you from is like where you deal with. Same like in California, places like that. So here it's like if you if you're from the north side, you got you beefing with south side, the west side's beefing with the east side, it's sunny side's beefing with everybody. Um it's just like I said, for here, it's just it's where you're from is the is the problem. No matter if you're white or black or Mexican, you know, there's no like oh, there's like a there's not like a group of white people that like hate black people only. Like it's more of a it's like more of race for race. Like it's in as I said, here it's an inside, it's an in-house race war, as far as you know, like I said, black people hate black people, Mexicans hate Mexicans. I know a lot that they're like, oh man, F that guy, you know. I'm like, damn, it'd be your own people, they don't like you. He's like, hey man, right, right. It's that's that's how it is here.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

I guess that's the bigger city. I that might be a bigger city thing, right? Because the Bronfo's we we small as hell, you know what I'm saying? It's it's really not one of the things here that might be the bigger city things, right? Or I might be able to make that.

Literacy Parenting And Discipline

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Right. I ain't gonna lie, as a black man, I haven't I haven't experienced a lot of racism in the last, I'd say like two, three years. It it hasn't been as as bad as it has been in the last the previous years, priors. But I would say like 24, 25, 26 has been pretty, pretty chill. Like it's been micro uh microaggressions and you know, little little racism because the thing about it is is that like I and I learned this from a white person. They told me it was like, man, it's many ways for us to be racist. Like, it's so many ways for us to be racist, we don't even know when we doing it. Like, and I'm like, hey, that's deep. And she she started breaking it down like this, this, that. Like, she was like, one example she gave me, she was like, Well, you know, like, you know how, you know, a person of melanin could be articulate and you know, speak with poise. And we could be like, well, I ain't like, I ain't never like, that's that that that's refreshing to hear something like that, like hear a person like you talk like that. That's racism. Like, why would you even say that? Like, implying that people of melanin don't don't have sense or they just stupid or something like that. You know what I'm saying? And the way she was just breaking down stuff to me, it was just blowing my mind. Because I'm like, man, damn, I done said some of this stuff. Am I racist? Like, like I didn't say some of this stuff to my people, like, damn, is damn, am I racist? Like, you know what I'm saying? But you never know. Because and and it's a lot of people that are like, like, like Caucasians just that aren't teaching and talking about this. And and like, hey, look, we need to change. We need to this and that. And I definitely gotta say it to our to my people too. We need to change with certain things because we can't always keep on. I had made that post about on Facebook about, you know, like Israel being mad at the whooping stick and not and not the people that that was laughing at you when you was getting your ass whooped. You know. And I just think that like right now, we our focus should not be, you know, definitely, definitely we should focus on white supremacy and and try to dismantle it because it's easy to dismantle. But the biggest focus is that we need to make sure our streets are safe for our babies. The biggest thing is that we need to make sure our literacy rate across the country is at 90%. You know, we we need to definitely make sure that our future generations will have jobs and opportunities that was afforded to us, that we that we had and we was able to enjoy. That our children would be able to buy houses and cars and have good credit. And those are the things that we need to focus on, and those are the things that are slowly slipping away from us as Americans because, like J Pill said, we are being complained, we have been complacent. We haven't, we haven't, we've been so, we've been been taught to fight each other so long, we have not even been taught how to get along. You know what I'm saying? Like we ain't even we we've been taught how to fight, we've been taught why we should fight with each other, we've been taught how to fight each other, but we have not been taught how to get along, and we all been in this country for so many years, and we we cannot keep on going back and forth with each other when our country is crumbling from the inside out, you know what I'm saying? Even though we are we are on we all we on some of the richest soil on the earth right now, and you know, America doing its thing, you know, like God bless America and all that good shit like that, but we need to definitely, we got some work to do as American citizens, we got some work to do. And I believe that we need to we need to make sure that our that our kids can read. That's the biggest thing. We gotta make sure our kids can read. If they can't read, how they gonna even apply for jobs or social security or any of that stuff where across the nation our literacy rate is at 65 percent. That's pitiful. That is pitiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

Hey, so I'll I'll ask you this, I'll ask you this, Avia. So with that with that statistic that you just gave, right? Now it's not accurate, I'm just saying uh just about that the statistic that you just quoted, going back to the original say you statement you made, then do you still feel with that statistic that America is still the greatest country in the world?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:59

Based on that statistic, I don't feel like it's the greatest country, but I feel like it's it's a good country to live in.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:05

It's it's a good country, right? But I was I was totally going off of the statement that you made that America was the is the greatest country.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:12

Yeah, and I and I'll take that back. Nah, it really ain't. It really ain't. I'll take that back. Good. Thank you for thank you for taking me on there, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

Yeah, because it yeah, because I mean we do we do need to work. There's some there's some things we do need to work at. There's some things that we definitely do need to work at, like my my kids not being able to read, you know what I'm saying, correctly or even even good, you know what I'm saying? I mean myself, I throw myself in the pot too, right? Because I was not a thing that that I cared about growing up, which I definitely looking back, I wish I would have changed that. I wish I would have been the nerd sitting in the corner reading the Harry Potter book, you know what I'm saying? And and getting after it. Now, where that dude is at right now, I have no idea, right? But I wish I would have applied what I was applying in out in my world, I wish I would have applied that to school, looking back now. Not to go to college or anything, but just to apply myself. Because like when I'm when I'm reading something, bro, I'm a terrible reader. I'm trying to explain something to my kids, and I don't even know what the hell you know their homework is talking about because I didn't apply myself correctly. You know what I'm saying? And and that that just shows you on how far back it went with prioritizing, you know, reading, just as simple as that. Like that wasn't a priority in my thing. My thing was, bro, I'm trying to get after it. Like by any means necessary. That's what that's the mentality I grew up with. School wasn't even in the in the top 10.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:52

Looking back though, as a man who has kids, I definitely wish I would have applied myself. And I tell my kids this all the time. I wish I was that nerd who was reading the Harry Potter book, you know what I'm saying, and applying that to just every other aspect in life. Because I was that was discipline. Looking back and seeing, and the dude, the dude I'm referring to, his name was Forrest, right? And he looks exactly how you can picture it. Nerdy ass dude, Frank was an Afro, right? And he would read a Harry Potter book in a week, an old Harry Potter book. Now that's discipline, right there, bro. Now imagine all the other aspects in his life that he applied that to simply off of staying focused on reading that entire Harry Potter book. You know what I'm saying? And me, I couldn't do that. Now, granted, it's because I was focused on other things, and I wish I would have applied myself, but I mean, that that's a bad statement to make as a 36-year-old man. Like, bro, I wish I would apply myself better. You know what I'm saying? The only thing we can do is as grown men is is look at our kids and say, hey, this is what I want for you. I want what's best for you. Because I didn't I didn't really have that good of a guidance. Because my dad was out there working, you know what I'm saying? He was out there trying to provide a life for us. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? And and then you ask about you know who his who his guidance was, and he come to find out he didn't even have any guidance himself. You know what I'm saying? So my faults, I can't blame that on him.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:27

My faults, I can't, me not not wanting to read, I can't blame that on him. It was just my stupidity thinking that I didn't need that in life. But man, looking back at it now, bro. I that was that's one thing I wish I would have done, applied myself fully in school, like being able to really get after it.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:43

I probably wouldn't be out here breaking my back. I know my check don't do it because he's in the office, you know what I'm saying, chilling in AC and shit. You know what I'm saying? So he don't he don't know what that real work is like, but we went to I was just about to say that like he don't know what it's about.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:09

Hey, so I'm super sorry because I gave 10 years of my life to one company and I'm a supervisor now, so now I'm supposed to feel no no that's and that's that's the American dream, bro. I applied myself to my job. That's the American dream, bro. Hey, I'm just poking people I'm just poking the foot.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:28

I'm just poking the fun at it, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:29

But like now, hey, I'm gonna help you out right now. They're not hating unless you're doing something right, bro. That's just the way it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:38

That's that's not me hating. I'm I'm I'm I'm admitting my own fault, so I'm not hating, I'm admitting my own fault. That's the difference, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:44

He's hating today. I wish I would have been, you know, applied myself more to you, man. I wouldn't know driving up and down the highway for pennies.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:51

Yeah, I feel like but it but it's not it's not hating when I'm scrutinizing myself for for for the lack of discipline in in my life as a young man and the effects of it now.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:04

He's hating because his dad likes me better than him, so he's gotta hate on me now.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

My my dad don't like you, but my dad don't like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:11

First of all, your dad loves me. Stop it.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:13

My my dad don't my dad don't love you. Get out of here. Just because you came to my wedding and you had a couple shots with my dad doesn't mean that he likes you more than me.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:23

Let's let's just Mexican beer.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:25

He I hey man, I wish I could have came, man. Like, like I ain't been from the Mexican wedding in a while.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:33

Oh, it was it was it was I bet it was lit.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:36

Yeah, it was lit.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:37

I bet it was lit.

Friendship Music And Mutual Respect

SPEAKER_06 1:24:39

It was lit. She's over there doing our dancing and shit with all them old ass.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:45

Hey, she was she was getting boy, she was getting after it, and she was getting it. Bro, when it came when it came to drinks, bro, she was getting after it, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:01

We our sisters can drink.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:03

Hey, my my my wife just said my shek's wife is a vibe, is what she just got done saying. The first time, bro, that my wife and my shake's wife met, first time in person, right? You would think that that we're the best as a friends.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:20

That's how it should be.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:21

Yeah, that's how that's how she be. Very, very, very sweet. That's how you know it's gonna be a lasting friend. Yeah, shout out to my shakes wife.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:29

Shout out, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:32

Shout out, yeah. Shout out to the wife, bro. Fuck me, shout out to the wife. Shout out to the wife, bro. You get cutted out, bro. What you talking about? You don't get hurt without me, bro. You don't get her without me, bro. See that that wife is like his wife said that you're a live, and then all the women will know they was hating on you because you was over there doing your thing. And he said, basically, yeah. So basically, they don't get you without me, and JP just over here hating because it likes me and shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:05

Well, I mean, we they she was the vibe, not you.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:08

So, I mean, you know, right in the corner. Michek was in the corner with his tail tucked between his legs, just sitting down.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:16

Hey, I was not doing anything, and not in a Mexican way, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:21

Hey, now you know, you know what though, man. The the first time me and Michek met in person, it was the I'm I'm glad things went the way they did because we were able to talk about some things. We were able to just kind of vibe it out the first time we met in person after what four years, Michek.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:38

Yeah, that's what's up. Hey, bro, hey bro, this my house is a vibe, bro. Hey, hey, my house is a vibe, bro. What can I say?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:50

Bro, no, bro, it's not it's not you, bro. You can bring it down, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:54

A via now, mind you, my wife was the only bronze colored woman there, bro. And she was, guess what, the center of motherfucking attention. My old man was finna leave their wife trying to mess with this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:07

You know, you know, I mean, because man, we like you gotta think, bro. Like, we we share us the Mexicans, we share like similar, you know, ancestry. You know, they are they are they are a lot of them are descendants from tajinos. And tajinos were like American Indians. You know what I'm saying? And they, yeah, they were like the indigenous, and they went down there to fight with the with the indigenous down there, and they just got stuck down there, and then some of them got sent to Haiti and Libya, you know what I'm saying, stuff like that. But yeah, we they so of course we like, you know, when when we get to to the ones that do like us, because I'm just gonna be real. A lot of a lot of people don't like us. A lot of people don't like us. And I get it, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:00

Is but for the one you gotta look at why though you see what I'm saying? Because you got people that look similar to y'all that out here acting a fool, and then people portray people portray everybody as acting the same. I deal with it every day with with with the Israelites that they think every white person colonizer, every black person is a thief, killer, Mexicans stealing jobs. You know what I'm saying? They just they predict they predict one person is like the whole nation and the whole yeah, the whole race, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you want me to tell you whose job you took? Who Sanford? Sanford was the old black man used to go around the neighborhood with his truck and his lime mower and cut grass, bro. No, but I don't even cut grass no more. I'm an electrical apprentice.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:56

But that's a that's a I'm an electrical apprentice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:00

That's a that's a that's an entrepreneur, like and I you know the immigrants that come over there and do that. Entrepreneur, man. I because that is equal, that is actually adding economics to the country, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you you coming in and you starting a country, uh a business, now you can employ other people. That's economics, you know what I'm saying? And I love when people come over here and do that. But for the ones that come over here and be like, man, yeah, I'm about to just send, I'm out of work and then send my money back to my country, like you ain't you ain't doing nothing. I'm just gonna be real. You just bleeding America dry. Like, rightfully so, because like we like America is a rich country, so go ahead and do your thing. But you know, like just make sure that when you start a company, you know, hire everybody. Don't just hire your people, hire everybody, hire Americans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's why they have to outsource these bigger companies, they outsource them they jobs because it's cheap labor. But Americans, we know how much another American worth is worth. We know, oh, this brother, he a carpenter, he's good with his hands, he worth X, Y, and Z. I'm going to pay him X, Y, and Z. You know, these these corporations, they like, we know he worth X, Y, and Z, but we just go give him this because we can we can just send the job over to India and they'll do it for pennies on a dollar. So when when we get the the ones that come over here and practice group economics with all the rest of the Americans and assimilate, you know what I'm saying? That's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing because that's what America is. You know, that's what America is. It's it's it's it's for those. It's the land of opportunity and the land of milk and honey for those that want to come and assimilate and and and and add to it. And add to it. But we have too many of them, and I'm just gonna be real, like a lot of a lot of the the ones that look like me, my color, but that they not us. Like, because we gotta be real, they not us. But they come over here and they they bleed America to ride because their country has they they see it in their country, so they want to go into other people's country and bleed right, just like they do it in Australia, they did it in the UK, they do it everywhere they go. I'm sure that's a different story, different topic. But yeah, man, you know what though? It's a beautiful thing that that that that that we don't that we not feeling the racism as much. It's it's prevalent, it's definitely here prevalent, but we don't feel it as much. And we we we are starting to wake up. Americans are starting to wake up. Black, brown, white, yellow. We start to wake up and and see that this shit is bigger than us, bigger than just us fighting about who is who and who was here first, and then I mean that that's like that's like, you know, we don't we don't have the same beliefs, me Masek, and and of course yourself, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:08

But that that's not gonna stop us from from the overall importance of the mission. You know what I'm saying? That's that's one thing that me and me and Mashek, we always talk about like, bro, I'm not here to change you, right? I'm not here to get you to to fully believe what I believe, right? Nor he, I, you know what I'm saying? He's not trying to get me to convert over to believe everything he believes, you know, right, nor you. We just know the mission is important to to bring, you know, and get people to recognize who the most high is. You know what I'm saying? Now, does that does that mean every single time that we we we agree on everything and we don't have disagreements? Me and Mashek, we had a disagreement, you know, a couple years back, and you know, it's it took us a minute to to reconcile. But uh, you know, at the end of the day, it was hey man, the mission, the mission is more important than uh than our belief. You know what I'm saying? It's more important than it's bigger than us. You know what I'm saying? There was a song that me and me and my shek did still to this day. My wife she plays it in the car every time she's running Pandora, but it's is it Brothers Keeper, Brothers Love Mashekeeper?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:26

You talking about the recent one or one we did a long time ago?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:28

A long time called Brothers Keeper that I like.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:31

I do no, I got one, but JP's just on the hook. That's me and somebody else. We have uh what's the name of them? Oh, oh, that damn, I got it in my head. Remember, I sent it to you just for you to help me write it and write the hook. I sent you the hook, and then you did the whole hook and everything while I was at work. Is that the one you're talking about? Um, be there. Be there. Oh, be there, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:52

Yeah, be there. And that that right there, that was one of the most pivotal moments of one of the most like it's my favorite verse. I don't, I don't know, I don't, I can't remember the verse to save my life, but I can't remember any of my verses to save my life. But that was one of the most iconic, in my in my opinion, iconic verses that I said because I I brought up our belief, I brought up our skin color, I brought up the area code where we live in, and I brought I at the end of the day, I brought it back to it's bigger than me and him with L O him, you know what I'm saying? Like it's bigger than Meshek and myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:33

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:34

And I think that was a very, very important moment to the both of us when it came to, and that's always been that's always been my shek's thing. Like, hey bro, it's not about us, it's it's it's about the most high. You know what I'm saying? So let's make sure that we we keep it there, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 1:34:48

Just yeah, so the yeah, so the song is basically saying that, like, you know, no matter what we're going through, like I'm gonna be there. Like, he's gonna be there.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:55

Yeah, I still got you.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:57

Like, no matter you know what people say, no matter what the you know, no matter what we believe differences and all that, basically saying, like, if you knock on the door, I'm gonna be there, kind of thing. Yeah, yes, yeah. My boy hungry, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:17

That man from chicken nuggets. Nah, he he he wants me to he want me to play the sack boy game with him. We've been playing a sack boy game on PlayStation 5.

Propaganda Loyalty Tests And Beef

SPEAKER_02 1:35:28

Yeah, he be teaming though, man. Like, we be trying to, it's a teamwork thing, and he don't he don't understand the concept of teamwork. Like, when I be getting certain things, he be getting mad, like, no, I want to get it. I'm like, bro, we a team. And then, like, you know, like at the end of the at the end of each board, they had like the little thing where it was like show who did what and who won. He always slapping me and taking my award when I like, bro, like, why is you a sore winner, a sore loser, and a sore winner? But I'm gonna get it. Like, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's what he wants. He wants me to play that game with him and shit. But I'm gonna get I'm gonna play with him a little later. But I but yeah, man, I I definitely, you know, this this has been a very a very enlightening conversation, you know, because and I wanted to get, you know, my brothers that were from different communities so we can have a uh open-ended conversation and and and and and where it won't be biased. You know what I'm saying? And I wanted I wanted to, you know, because this is spit your truth. So yeah, definitely tell the truth and speak your truth, like how you feel it. Like, I don't, I it's hard. It it gets hard for me to get offended by certain things because all my life I've been offended. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like kind of the norm, like, you know what I'm saying? So, but I love to hear different perspectives and and and and when when JP was telling us about you know the the whole asylum seeking thing, that like was that was new to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:08

Yeah, I never heard anything like that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:11

Yeah, that was new to me, like what I'm like, I thought they all like I thought that's what was going on, but see, like we had to break it down. It was like that's what we've been uh and it and it's crazy that C okay yeah, and it's crazy because we we we we've been told that and we we've been bamboozled propaganda is strong, propaganda is strong, man, and we've been we've been we've been force fed propaganda for years about different people, different communities, different countries, different people, and different things. And it and now in 2026, we're starting to get the truth. The truth is well, it's been coming out, but a lot of us have been like not as not as willing to hear it, should I say.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:05

But my my my my thing is about that is we what we do is we take what another person says about somebody and it makes you not like that person. Matter of fact, I'm gonna bring it to existence. Me and you dealt with this not too long ago. Well, it was a little while ago, Via, where I told you about me and certain someone was, you know, we was cool, we was kicking it, we was, you know, I'm saying doing our little podcast stuff and doing the the music stuff and all that. And then I told you that I mentioned, like, hey bro, there was this guy that I really wanted to do work with. I he was he was down to do it with me. I wanted to do a feature with him and everything. And then I had another individual tell me that that person done him the wrong, or that person didn't end things correctly, and then he was like, Oh, if you rocking with him, you can't rock with me no more. Right, so it's we do that in this this country does, and I'm not just talking about just you know, Israel with inside Israel or inside, like it's just this country is a as a whole. If one person does somebody wrong, whether we know the story or not, if that person is cool with like say somebody's beefing with you, and I rock with that person heavy, then it's like, oh well, you could be like, Oh, my shek, if you hanging out with that dude, oh, you can't fool me no more. You can't you can't like me no more, like for instance, you know, and y'all will grant him peace. But we had I had a beefing with with with Reggie at one point, my brother, and we had a little beef, nothing too serious, but it was the same time as like you was rocking with him, you was talking, like, yeah, man, me and Reggie got this and this. There wasn't a time where I was like, Oh, yeah, man, nah, he ain't shit. You know, he's me and him plex because I don't I don't roll that, you know. If me and somebody are beefing for a small, a small time, and that doesn't mean that I need to be like, nah, V, you gotta hate him because me and him are plexed up, and me and him wasn't both flexed up about nothing too serious. I mean, money's not serious, or or doing something for someone, and you know, not too serious for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:31

Yeah, not too serious.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:32

But like in this country, we we go off another person's word, like like, oh hey, he nah, he he called me ugly. Now you can't rock with him because he called me ugly, or I'm not gonna rock with you. So that's the way that's the way that's the way this world, you know what I'm saying? That's the way this world goes. I didn't miss it. I didn't miss it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:58

He just kept rolling, like whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:00

Hey nah, hey no, but my shake knows how loved. I love you, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:03

That's what I do to my haters. Yeah, I just walk right past my haters. Hey, because what I can't say is that them people at that wedding that was looking at me didn't think I was ugly, but we're gonna skip past that. Hey past that who is Blanco over there, who is Blanco sitting over there drinking modello black? We ain't gonna we're gonna skip past that though, J Brud.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:26

Hey no, but but nah, you you my brother, bro. You know I love you. Yeah, I just had to throw that in there. I just had to throw that in there, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:32

Hey, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:37

You know how that goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:38

But no, though, hey Jay, the crazy part though, like when you said it, it threw me off, but he just like it he was just totally unfazed.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:47

I'll do my haters.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:52

Right, right, right. Oh, praise, man. And see, that's how that's why I love y'all, man, because we can joke and play with each other, and you know, even even take it there at times, and we just know that it's all in love, like we know that you know, we just joking and playing with each other, and and at the end of the day, we still love and respect each other because I got a great deal of love and respect for both of y'all, and and yeah, definitely. Like, I get what you're saying, bro. Like, yeah, it it it'd be like I ain't rocking with you because you associated with the person my op. And it's like, well, yo, I may dead shit to me. Like, they they yo, you just said it, yo up, y'all are beefing exactly, y'all are beefing, now you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:34

Stop being weird. That's what I said. Me and you have dealt, me and you dealt with that with the the past about you know, somebody not I can't rock, I can't do a song with this person because it offends this other person. Or if you know me long enough, I offend a lot of people, and I don't give a damn about any of it, and I think that's why I got that's why I'm I'm so at peace because I don't even I'm flexed up with so many people that they beat for me because I'm pink. Like I can't, I can't I can't help that. So I I that's why I feel like I'm at because I don't have to deal with that. I don't that's why you know saying I just I stay to myself. I said when you alone, bro, you gotta you gotta set yourself up a little bit.

Inside Hebrew Israelite Community

SPEAKER_02 1:43:17

You just opened up a whole nother plethora of questions in my head. But see, I ain't got the time right. I got the time, so whatever, bro. You just opened up a whole plethora of questions in my head. Like I got the time, man. I nah, I gotta get to this video shoot around 7 30, but but man, I'm gonna just ask this. So how has how has it been lately for you in the Hebrew Israelite community?

SPEAKER_06 1:43:55

How has it been?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:57

Yeah, lately, like lately in the last two, three years.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:01

I mean, it's it's been good, but the only reason it's been good is because my scissor game is sharp. That's the only reason it's it's been good. I mean, a lot of people don't fool with me, but now that I stay more to myself, it doesn't bother me. The people that you know, if I send you a song like A bro, do this for me, and they don't respond in three months, then you know it's that okay, y'all didn't mean for me and you to work together. Let me just go on to the next. So, I mean, I don't it it doesn't phase me no more. I don't I and it's crazy because I don't even reach out to people no more. You know, I've been reaching out, I have you know, some Christian artists that I'm working with and stuff like that. And it it sets me to say this, but man, the the the Christian community is is is is better to me, not as far as the the beliefs, but how they treat people is a lot different than how Israelites because it's not it's not rooted in racism. Okay, yeah, so well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:03

I mean, oh I mean we we still got it though, you know what I'm saying? Like we still got it. You yeah, yeah, it's still there, you know what I'm saying? You got the type of Christians where it's like you know what I'm saying, they take it to the extreme, you know what I'm saying? It's still there, but it's just those are the weirdos that we don't, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:45:21

We we don't yeah, but most Christians believe that all people can get salvation. Most most uh damn near all the Hebrew Israelites believe that only Israel is gonna get salvation.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:31

That's when I first heard that, right? Like, so I I I don't I want to put this out there. There's no shade to any Hebrew Israelite from my part because I don't really I don't really well I'm gonna put it out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:43

I'll throw shade at y'all because I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:46

I don't do shots for sure. No, I don't really care because of the fact that I'm not yeah, I'm not I'm not here for your beliefs. I just want you to know that the most I love you and if you cool with that, cool. If you you cool that what I believe, cool if not, I don't care. But, anyways, that to me that's crazy to disqualify somebody right simply off on on the fact of their skin color, yeah. That's ludicrous. So Machette couldn't he can't he couldn't help the fact that he was born white, Indian, you know what I'm saying? Like he could he couldn't help that. So what he's born a white man, so he gotta go to hell. You know what I'm saying? He he burning in the lake of fire just because he was born. White and sexy is a crime now, bro. And there's nothing, there's nothing that he can do to get to get to the most high.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:44

Oh snap. White and white and sexy is a crime, bro.

Gatekeeping Faith And Salvation Debates

SPEAKER_00 1:46:49

This is what I'm saying. I'm just putting it out like to me, when I when I what Ms. When me and you first started doing music, when you had mentioned that to me, to me, I thought to myself, bro, what what what is that? Like to to to have that much of a piss poor mindset to say, hey, like just because of you just because you were born not black or not a darker shade of skin color, you automatically thrown out and you burning with everybody else who goes against the belief. Like that, that to me, bro, is is crazy. Now, mind you, I love I love everybody, and I'm not here to throw shade at anybody, so I don't want that to come across like this. I just I don't get that belief. I guess because like I said, I wasn't I wasn't grown into into that extreme of a belief where it's like if you don't believe in Jesus or if you don't believe in you know what I believe, then automatically you you gone. Like we can't even be cool, we can't even associate. Like that shit is wild to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:00

People think they're gatekeepers. People try to be gatekeepers, that's all they think they're standing at the gate letting people in, like, no, right.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:08

Let me tell you what it is, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:11

Black folks in America ain't never had shit, bro. We ain't never had shit. We we've created a lot of things, and a lot of things have been taken from us. We have been the pioneers of a lot of things, and we have and our culture and we are the most monetized people on this earth. So we really we we we we never really even owned our own identity, right? So when when when when the the the black man and woman finds out that they're Israelite, right, and they find out that they're you know that's a special seed, chosen seed, it's not like a special seed, because like a lot of people don't a lot of people are reading the book and they be like, oh, we chosen, we God chosen. But y'all gotta remember that God chosen was the most wickedest nation on the fucking earth. And the reason why they was wicked is because they went against the most high over and over and over, generation after generation after generation. Like he told Ezekiel, nigga, go tell them, but they not go listen because they don't even listen to me. Yeah, these motherfuckers don't even listen to me, so you ain't got nothing coming. Just like he told Samuel, they ain't deny you, they denied me. Yeah, over and over. We have shown our treacherous ways. But they take a blind out of that exactly. They take a blind out of that. They say, Oh, we have some kings and queens. No, it was only one king that ruled in Israel, it wasn't kings. No, it was king, one king. They need to stop with all this thinking that they they we higher and we better than people when yes, we are the blueprint. I'm just gonna say that. But that doesn't make us better. That just makes us that just makes us authentically us and the most replicated and copied people on this earth. Nothing wrong with that. The most high told us that that was gonna happen. Nothing wrong with that. Like imitation is flattering. But when you come from having nothing in that mindset, you come from Christianity, you leave that alone, and then you come to this, and then you hear, oh, you a chosen person, you this and you that you a special person, this and this and that. Now you start to develop a race of man a racist mindset. Oh, God don't care about nobody. God, He made us in this, He made us in this image, and we black. I say, Well, He made a tree. Is he a fucking tree? Yeah, you know, so yeah, it's that like my bro said it's gatekeeping, it's racism, and it's it's that mindset. We took that that that Willie Lich mindset and just applied it to the to everybody else, not just only us, but now it's everybody else. Okay, nobody don't nobody have true. Yes, we have a direct, we have a direct connection to our father, and we are supposed to be the light to the world, but being the light to the world does not consist of you telling people that they ain't nothing or they ain't this or they or on the street corners yelling, cussing, and fussing, and and on on podcasts, talking crazy and talking about people ain't this and people ain't going nowhere, and and only only Israel go see salvation. And how you know you go see salvation? How? Yeah, like so. That's the biggest thing. Once I once I started to like really like step back from the whole religion because it is a religion, once I started stepping back from the religion, I started to see the hypocrisy in it. And I started to see the hypocrisy of myself. So I had to be like, man, look, you was there wrong. Get your act together, read Torah, start start getting with people and starting getting with talking to other cultures and seeing how what they think and what's on their mind. Because you don't know. I don't know everything, and I'm not gonna sit here and profess to say that I do. But what I can say is that is that it's a religion, and with any religion, it's gonna be fanatics, yeah, it's gonna be heretics, and it's gonna be lunatics. Let's just be real. So that's what it is, bro. They just they just they just Negroes that know they special, but don't know how to don't know how to share our God with everybody else, because he's just not our father. In order for a father to have a firstborn, he has to have multiple other children. Yeah, that's why that firstborn is there, because he was the firstborn to all the other children. So just because I'm the firstborn don't mean that you're not a child of God. That does not denote you or denigrate you from being a child of God. It doesn't, and it doesn't make me special because my ancestors were deaf-necked Negroes, death-necked motherfuckers. They went against God all so many times. When when when he told Moses, step back, bro. I'm about to kill these fools. What he do, yeah. What Moses do? Moses, like, please don't.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:51

Please don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:57

But see, the most high didn't even care about that. He didn't care because he created a whole other nation, he don't care. Yeah, he don't man. See, that's what people fell to realize. Israel think the most high need us. He don't need us, he don't need nobody. He created everything and he will destroy everything if he wants to. That's just the bottom line to it. You know what I'm saying? And and what Hebrew Israelites need to need to start thinking and start getting in their mind is that it was seven nations that the most high told us not to get with. And all of them were Hamites, Hamites, Africans, African nations. All of them. All seven of them. When America, the in the conception of America, it was seven different nations that came against the the indigenous. Hold on, don't that came against the indigenous. The most high told us in Deuteronomy that it was that that our enemies was gonna come in seven ways and we would go flee from them seven ways, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:55:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:10

So my biggest thing is that we we focus our energy at the wrong person, the wrong thing. What we need to focus as Israelites, we need to focus our mind on being a light to the world. Like Moses said, man, these when these people cross paths, when y'all be keeping the line, y'all doing y'all thing, y'all and y'all observes the most high walking with y'all. People go walk past, y'all, other nations go walk past y'all. I'm like, damn, they over there shining. Like, what they doing? We want some of that. They not looking at us, y'all not looking at us like that now. Y'all looking at us like we fucking clowns, because we is. We ain't gone back to our father. You a fucking clown. If you ain't turned back to your father, to your creator, you a fucking clown, bottom line, and that's why people look at us like that. Because we all scattered, we in this, we in Christianity, we in Islam, we in Higher Israelites, we in this, we Jew. We wanna say we Jews, and but nobody says, Let's just turn back to the creator. Let's just be detecting the children of God. You gotta be in a group. That's what it is. Yeah, let's just be children of God. Nothing wrong with that. It's nothing wrong with being a child of God, bro. I love it. I know y'all love it too, because y'all know y'all feel his hands, his protection, his love on you. What's better than being a child of God? Nothing. Other than being alive, what's better than that? So that's what it is, bro. Like, yeah, that's what it is. It's just they they just they they misguided, and the the Bible, the the scripture told us that the that the fear of God was gonna be taught by the precepts of men. So a man tell a man taught us how to fear God. God didn't teach you because God, God, he don't he don't want you to fear him like like like uh a fear of of imminent death or anything. He wants you to fear him like you his father, like you, like he's your father. Like you would feel fear your father and revere your father. How respect for me. Yeah, respect me. You know what I'm saying? That's why he said, if I'm your father, where's my love? If I'm the if I'm your God, where's my fear? Where is it? That's why he said it because they're synonymous. They're synonymous. So that's what it is, bro. That's all it is. That that they they just misguided and they need to they need to wake the hell up. They need to wake the hell up because at the end of the day, it uh we need y'all. Just like we needed y'all when we came out of Egypt. We always had sojourners and people that live with us, uh, and people that that that that that that got down and did what they had to do. David, David had one of the biggest armies and the biggest kingdom, and they were it was mixed. It was a mixed multitude of people. He actually, he was the only king that that put the Edomites to slavery. Remember, God told him you can't put the Edomites to slavery. He was the only king that did that, and God allowed it.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:20

He said, Yeah, he said, he said, uh God allowed it. He said, Damn, hold my slingshot. Let me show you something.

Boot Camp Religion And Unity Shabbat

SPEAKER_02 1:58:30

Yep. Yep. Those were Palestinians. But when once once once Israel was was formed and the government, he was set on the throne, he went and he was taking kingdoms, he was taking people's land. Remember, the most high gave everybody a land and said, D hey, this is their land, you can't mess with them. King David went and was like, Hey, we we can't take your land, but y'all about to be in service to us and pay us tribute. And he was the only king that did that. Only king that did that. But I don't want to get too far off the subject, but yeah, that's why, bro. Like, and it's crazy because like I love my Hebrew Israelite brothers and sisters, but a lot of them are religious fanatics, man. They take that Bible and they they live by it, they live by it, they live by everywhere in the Bible. If if it ain't in the Bible, then it ain't true. And God didn't tell you to live by the Bible, He told you to live by the Ten Commandments, His law. It tells a story for a reason. Yeah, it tells a story for a reason. So, you know what I'm saying? We have to we have to stop looking at it as a religious book and start looking at it as a historical context, you know what I'm saying? And just look at that, that, that, that, the ten commandments as the pillar, because when you look at the ten commandments and you look at all these other different religions, ten commandments are like kind of like the foundation of you know what I'm saying, they might have something in their religion that's that that mirrors the 10 commandments, and you'll know like oh it's the it's the pillar, it's the foundation of of life, of of of period of life. So, you know, as long as you following that and you keeping keeping to it, you know, you're doing right by your your brother and your sister, making sure your mom and your family are good, you making sure you good, you take care of yourself, you praising him and giving him the glory first and foremost. Yeah, how can you lose? How can you you know so I I just think that that that they that they just misguided, man, and and we was taught we was taught that hate when we got in these classes and stuff like that, bro. They was taught that hate. They was taught I I'm gonna just short story. When I when I first came into the truth, like probably like 10-15 years ago, I went to this class called the House of Yehuda. And like at the time, the the classes in Cincinnati had just like broke up. They were probably like about a year or two broke up. And the reason why they they broke up is because the hair morie died. Just like when when grandma and granddaddy died, what happened? The family breakup. So they broke up, they had all they went to different classes, right? And the class that I went to, they had an issue with some of the main class and some other people. So it always used to be talked about, like, you know, man, this and this and that, and they'll be incorporated in their classes. They are see, man, if they would have done this with Torah and this and that. I was taught not to like these people that I never knew, never met until I met some of the people. I'm like, dang, these are the people they talk about, like that's crazy. Like, so I didn't. I remember one time we had a they was having a the other classes were having a Unity Shabbat. And we we had a vote. They had a vote if we was gonna go or not. As a as a class, we had a vote as a collective. Was that a fucking what is that? Oh, that's a spider. Well, damn, I was just about to kill him, but now he he bounced. Well, I guess he don't want to die. I was just about to smush him, but uh we had a vote to see if we was gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:22

Yeah, we're fine, spider.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:25

The vote, yeah. The vote was it was unanimous 7-7. So the Her Marie was like, Man, it's it's 7-7. So I'm gonna make I'm gonna make my vote, and he voted against it. So we didn't go. I said, but I don't even know these people. I would like to get to know the others, like it was like frowned upon if you if I went there, like went there and was like, Well, where was you at? Oh, I went to the Union Shabbat. Oh, oh, you did like so you come into it, already believe you're already getting taught that you know, Christian, Christians are bad, they don't this, they this, they that, like, you know what I'm saying? Muslims are bad, this and this and that. And you know, you can't, they say, oh, Allah, this and it. But we was taught, we was taught the Bible by brothers and sisters that didn't even understand the language that it was wrote in written in. So they couldn't even transliterate it for you to understand it all the way. Just like how they say, Allah is a God. No, it's not, it just means the God. That's all it means in in in in in Islam, the God. You know what I'm saying? And it's really it's really pronounced I live. You know what I'm saying? But we've we've been taught, we it was a it was a lamp and taught thing. It wasn't like you know, you came into this and you was like, man, all Christians, no. You get into this, and that's the first thing they teach you. It's like a like a boot camp, a Hebrew Islamite boot camp. Do you do you denounce Christians and Christianity and everything Christian and everything that is not Hebrew Israelite? Yeah, it's a it's a boot camp. They take you through. I remember I was looking at this Netflix thing, it was called surviving, and it was like different cults. Guess, guess who oh yeah. I think I've seen that.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:06

I didn't watch it, but I saw the wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 2:04:10

That was some deep shit, wasn't it? Huh? It was some deep shit. I'm like, man, what is actually gotta run and get away from the Hebrew Israelites.

Relationship Over Religion And Names

SPEAKER_00 2:04:21

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, it it ain't I'm glad they came out with that because it it shows like the extreme points of religion. You know what I'm saying? It's like, bro, that I I know like that's an extreme way of uh of looking at like religion. And and that's why that's why when when people ask, that's why I really don't consider myself. I'll say when people ask like what religion I am, I'm not a religion. Like I'm not religious, I'm not a religious person, you know what I'm saying? I got a relationship with the most high, and I talk to him, he talks to me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, in the way, in the way he he talks to me, you know what I'm saying? And I don't know no other way. Me being a Christian has nothing to do with with religion. I got a relationship with the most high, you know what I'm saying, and that that's how it is. That's how I live. I can't speak on anybody else, but that's that's that's my thing. But those people in that Netflix episode, bro, wow.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:24

Wow, wow. It made me it made me feel ashamed to be the to call myself a Hebrew is a bike, bro.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:31

Like this, I mean what you're saying, huh?

SPEAKER_06 2:05:36

So, what you were saying was true. I'm gonna bounce back to what they call that. I'm gonna lay them back around to when you said about the Israelite boot camp. So a lot of people, Israelites, a lot of people have refrained from speaking to me or being in touch with me or doing anything with me due to me being as close to JP as I am, right? You know, they see it and they're like, Oh, he's a oh, he said he's a Christian. Uh, and they'll stop talking to me immediately. But for me, it is deeper than that.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:15

My bad, bro. My bad, bro. Yeah, you gotta be my bad. My bad.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:22

Damn. So it's but people will be like, but I did have a brother that you know, after that, he stopped talking to me for a while, and then we put out matter of fact, recently, the song Synergy and me and JP just released. Oh, yeah, the same dude hit me up. Hey, bro, dang, hey, that song is fire, bro. Who did that hook? I said, JP did. He said, Who is that? I said, Oh, James. He's like, Oh, you talking about you let that Christian brother, man, that shit fire. And I was like, bro, for me, it's deeper than that. I don't I don't have a hate for a Christian at all. Not a day in the world. They they come against me all the time, like, oh, you know, what you're saying is whatever. I don't have a problem with them, and it's because for me, it is deeper than what you say, what your belief is, is deeper than what because in all reality, bro, none of us know the truth. We just have to go by what our minds are allowed. Well, Yahweh allows our minds to think is what is what it is. Nobody has the truth, bro. Nobody can say, nobody can say they know the name of the creator, nobody can say they know the son's name, nobody can say any of that because nobody knows. If you knew, why would you be here? You would be up, you would be you would be on the right hand of the most high if you knew everything, if you knew every little thing, if you knew that you know, so I can't go and be like, Oh, oh, you you don't do this, or you don't you don't have you don't keep the Shabbat on a Saturday, you keep the Shabbat on a Tuesday. How do I know? We we gotta think of when nobody was using the moon 10 years ago to tell me what day it was. So it's like, how do we know that Shabbat is even on a Saturday? We don't, but we have to go by what we are taught and what we believe, what our minds are allowed. If you really think about it, if Yahweh really opens our eyes to everything, bro. I don't think our our fleshly minds can even fathom the stuff. We would our heads would explode.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:26

Yeah, I'll gotta say our heads would explode.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:28

They would explode if we actually were to come in and know everything and know all this. Our minds would disintegrate. Our minds, I don't think our minds would need to. Huh?

SPEAKER_02 2:08:38

I don't think I would want to know everything. Like I would want that, bro.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:44

That's too much of responsibility, man. Just sprinkle a little cheese on me, bro, and I'm good. I don't need all the information. And that's where where people are wrong because you got super Christians, you got the Power Ranger Hebrews that think that they know everything, and same with Christians, same with Muslims, you have a lot of people that think they just know everything, and then they're like, Oh, you're going to hell because of this. Oh, you're a Christian, you you you this and you that, and it's this, and it's like for me, it's deeper than that. If you got a love for the love for the creator, and you know, you believe that you know there is a higher power. I mean, that's why I don't get in the name game when people are like, Oh, bro, I don't I don't want to know what his name is until he wants me to know what his name is.

unknown 2:09:30

Right.

Raising Kids For Hard Times

SPEAKER_06 2:09:30

He's just that if if he calls himself some, if he calls himself a higher Yahuwah, Jesus. I mean, it comes to a point where like I I don't want to know unless he wants me to know. And I know that when that day comes, exactly. Everybody will know together, yeah, and there won't be no way for nobody to dispute it. That's why even that was even when I first when I first got in the truth. I had a a conflict, uh, I mean a a disagreement with the camp that I'm that I was a part of that I am currently still watching. Is that at that time, I mean, now he he changed his mindset now, but at that time he was like, Oh, you can't talk to nobody for Yao, but there's so many books with so many names, but yeah, you can tell me that you know how to pronunciate it. I understand you for an example, you speak the language. I I can't I can say, okay, you speak Hebrew fluently, you know how to pronunciate the words, but how do we know that the Hebrew we know now is the is the is the original, yeah, is the original holy language. We don't know that we don't know a white man across the way over there in the holy land that they say is the people, that's the language they speak. We don't know if they speak the actual given language that Yahweh gave to certain people. I don't I don't believe so. That's why I said nobody can pronunciate his name. I feel like we don't even deserve to pronunciate his name in any way they that we've been given. I don't feel we deserve uh we don't deserve it, bro. We don't we're American, we don't deserve any of it, bro. But I tell you how a million times the only people that deserve it are the ones that we are raising today because their mind they don't have to go through being misled, they don't have to go through agreeing a believing lies, they don't have to go through the seat or nothing because we're raising them with our mindsets as far as what the most high has done for us. They don't have to, they don't even have to go through the the struggle, the hard times, they don't have to go through oh, this person was lying to you for so many years.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:03

Hey, but you know what? Would would that be okay now? I I'll grow I'll break off into this tangent. I don't know how much time you're gonna have. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:10

Before you do that, bro, but before you do that, I I wanna I just want to make sure y'all like go ahead and land because I I gotta bounce. So just go ahead and land so I can, you know, we can hug it. No, no, I want to hear what you gotta say. I want to hear what you gotta say because I like what he just said, like open up another puzzle of the con uh conversation in my head, and I'm just like I wish I had to go do what I had to go do so we can stay and chop it up.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:35

I'll ask the question, bro. We'll leave the cop we'll look, I'll ask the question and then we'll we'll leave that topic for the next one. For the next one I'm talking about. Okay, is that necessarily a bad thing though, Mesek? What if if they were to if they would have to go through the same thing we went through?

SPEAKER_06 2:12:53

Yeah, because I don't feel like the time now, now's time with the amount of stuff that's going on and the biblical prophecy that has come in the past, I do think it's a bad time because what happens if they go through that deceit and then the clouds are cracked and it's too late. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, yeah. It is to me, it to me, it is a bad thing for them to go through right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:18

I mean, it it might be right, but you had to go through all the bullshit in order to understand what needed to be understood now. You know what I'm saying? What what what you had to go through let's say if they don't have to go through it, they hear somebody else speak sweet nothings, that might be the thing that gets them. It's young men or young women.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:41

But if they're raised, if they're raised up in it, then there's not a second, there's not a chance for deceitfulness. So I'm saying we're we're raising like we're raising like like soldiers. There's no they you can you can whisper sweet, like for instance, I and I'm not tooting my own arm, bro. Them two and them try it if you want to. They already they're grounded and they already got their information they need to go through that, but I still feel like right now, nah, I uh if we're raising them in this, they shouldn't have to do something just like like our lives are different because our parents went through some worse shit than we went on.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:18

But it's but it's not, I mean, we were out there doing the same thing, we were out there doing the same thing they told us not to do, and it wasn't necessarily a bad thing that we went through it.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:25

Well, no, I'm just saying it's not. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but what I'm saying is I'm just grateful that that they don't have to go through that. I mean, if now something comes up across and you know Yahweh allows it, then who am I to to speak against something that the creator has set up for them? I'm sure they're gonna have obstacles to cross, yeah. But yeah, but at the same time, since we're grounding them now, they will know how to handle those situations.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:56

Well, that that's that was uh that was a point I was trying to roll back to was what if the mo what is the most high allowed them to go through that?

SPEAKER_06 2:15:04

Well then there's nothing I can do about it, nothing I but but like I said, what we are teaching them could help them step over that obstacle, though. No, so if it comes in front of them, they know how to get out of that situation. So I feel like like I said, the same with us, we wouldn't be shit unless our parents instilled something into us that allowed us to through that, you know what I'm saying? How we obviously we got our big brother walking us through, but we had to be taught certain stuff. Now, of course, you know, uh most of us were raised not knowing what we know now, or not even knowing close to what we know now, but at least now our kids have the tools to get through it with the help of their big brother, but they also have what they need to get through all that. So, yeah, I I agree. I I pray that none of us that none of them have to go through the same things that we had to go through, but similar obstacles that makes them grow as a human, then yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:06

No, you good. Now it was a good it was a good ending point. I just wanted to ask that real fast, but you know, I'm I'm I'm we're good to close out.

SPEAKER_08 2:16:13

This is the spit your truth podcast.

Closing Thanks And Where To Listen

SPEAKER_02 2:16:16

Hey, you know what, man? Y'all, hey, it got real juicy at the end, y'all. Hey, this is Spit the Truth Podcast. Y'all just heard the lady say it. This is your boy of Spit Your Truth Podcast. I got my beloved brothers, James, and my beloved brother Masheik, man. And we on here spitting our truth, man. We're gonna come back with another one, man, because they just they just opened up a whole can of worms for me. And I gotta get to this video soon, y'all. I apologize, but next time, man, we go hit y'all and get y'all what y'all want. And the conversation was getting so juicy, man. I appreciate y'all, man. I love y'all, brothers, man. Like y'all, y'all have a beautiful night, man. Kiss y'all families for me, man. Keep staying, stay it, stay in the most high's grace, his his mercy, and his right side. Don't go to the left side, because the left side is where you usually get your ass whooped. So just stay on the right side. Uh, to my listeners, man. I love y'all, man. Thanks for the support, man. Hey, check us out on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, everywhere, man. We everywhere. Spit your truth podcast uh.com is the website. Uh Spitch Truth 613, YouTube, TikTok, hit us up, man. My brothers, they got they I let them go ahead and shoot their links, and where they where you can catch them at catch their music and stuff like that. And hey, we love y'all, man. Hey, we we do this for y'all, we do this for the most high, man. We bringing awareness to the streets. We we had to, I had to bring my two brothers that were from different backgrounds, ethnic backgrounds, so we can have a real conversation and and and we can show people that it's all love. It even though we have differences and beliefs and heritages and in cultures, it's still all love. So, bro, y'all go go ahead and let them know where y'all can they can find y'all's music and all that good stuff, y'all links and all that Facebook, man, and we go go on ahead and get up out of here.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:24

Hey, with check music anywhere, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, all streaming platforms. Same thing. Check music.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:36

Um, I don't even know. I don't I don't even know what my what my you what my YouTube pages. You usually gonna find me. You usually gonna find me with my set. You you usually gonna hear me with my sec. So whatever my second on, that's where you're gonna hear me at, bro. All right, I'll put them on the map. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:53

Hey, it's sold out entertainment. Y'all playing tea, man. You know how we do it, man. We make good music, praising the most high. We do it for the most high only. We don't, we don't need your text, we don't need your recognition, we just need the love, and we just we just trying to get on y'all's playlist. That's all. So, hey, it's the spit of truth podcast, your boy Abia, man. We miss. I missed y'all. I ain't this is the first time I dropped something like since February. So, yeah, man. Y'all check this new content out. It'll be on the on the uh it'll be on the audio, it'll be on YouTube, it'll be on my bus route. So y'all can go check that out, man. Audio and the video, and I had a short running all praise to the most high, man.

unknown 2:19:51

This is the staircase.