Ep 39 Questioning the Slave Trade Story Through Genealogy

A lot of us can trace our people through the South with names, plots, and paperwork, yet we’re still told our story starts somewhere else. That tension is where this conversation begins, as we sit down with Morah  Yaqob  and Latoria “Tori” G to wrestle with what genealogy, land records, and long family timelines might imply about indigenous identity in the United States.

We question mainstream narratives around slavery by looking at how records are framed, what databases can and cannot prove, and how labels can flatten complex histories. From there, we explore a controversial and rarely discussed angle: the trans-Pacific slave trade and the Spanish colonial category “Chino,” including the claim that some “Chinos” were later treated under law as “Indians.” We also talk through how media imagery shapes who people picture as “Native,” and why those assumptions can make honest research harder.

Then we go deeper into the Bible-based argument the guests bring, comparing scriptural descriptions of a promised land that is “well watered” with present-day geography and water scarcity in the Middle East. Whether you agree, disagree, or land somewhere in the middle, we lay out the logic step by step and keep coming back to the same standard: bring sources, define terms, and follow evidence where it leads.

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Transcript

Welcome And Guest Introductions

SPEAKER_04 0:46

Well my brother my brother Moray let me bring him up. There you go. My brother Moray Yako and my sister Latorin. See, I man, I don't know. I want to mess her name up. I swear I don't, y'all. It's I'm gonna give me a try, give me a try. La Tor Yeah, Latoria. Okay. I'm gonna have to give you a nickname because see, I I be messing people's names, right? Uh I don't want to feel like I'm disrespecting you, right? Cause I know how I feel when people be messing my name up, right? But uh without further ado, y'all, what's up.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

You muted, you muted.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

I don't even know how to work my own equipment, y'all. My bad. But uh this week, y'all already know what this is, man. It's your boy Abia. We spitting our truth. And today we go have a good talk about this indigenous concept. And it's it ain't a concept, it's a reality. It's a reality that most people, especially brews in the United States and in America, need to need to grasp like for real because it's deep. The deception is deep, y'all. Like, and I got who I got a brother and a sister here. They go, they about to, they about to dig us, they about to take us down the rabbit hole. So without further ado, I'm gonna let them go ahead and introduce themselves, and I'm gonna just shut the hell up because I'm still learning, y'all. They and they they know a little bit more about this than me. So I'm about to learn just like with y'all. So I'll praise to the most high. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_05 2:47

My name is Mori Yako. I'm from out of Georgia, and I'm indigenous to this area. Me and my people. We are actual Yuchi Indians, what they call Gullah or Wahali. That's who we are. 100% full blood. And sister Latoria.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah, you can call me, y'all can call me Tori. Well, it's this my name promounced like Latoria G. My mama got excited in the hospital and decided to put an R in my name. She named me after Latoria Jackson, Michael Jackson sister. But she put an R in there, so it's Latoria. But you could just say Tori for short. But um, I'm from North Carolina, like and I'm I'm like indigenous here too, like all my all my people and stuff in here, my mom and my daddy's side.

SPEAKER_04 3:50

That's the thing, man. We can trace, like I said before, we can trace our ancestors back to this land for over over three, four hundred years before slavery. Way before they they said they brought slaves over here, so-called. Like, you know what I'm saying? We can we got documentation saying that our people were here, that they own land. Like, if they were slaves, then how did they own land? You know, how do they know how when they when they were captives, how do they know how to navigate the the terrain and the land over here if they wasn't from here? Like, those questions I got that I need answering, like, but I think y'all got the answer, so I'm gonna just be quiet and let y'all do y'all thing. Like, so no, first and foremost, I'm about to ask a question.

Is The Transatlantic Narrative True?

SPEAKER_04 4:48

Do y'all feel like do y'all feel like do y'all feel like the transatlantic slave trade was a myth? Or what what what are you what are y'all's thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Um well, can I just say like so it was definitely a myth, like, right? Because I've been doing I'm I'll be doing my genealogy and I've been doing genealogy of other like so-called black Americans around me, right? Because I'm from Bladen County in Southeast North Carolina, and it's like an agriculture county, and we don't we don't have like a lot of we don't have any sky risers or anything like that, any sketch papers or anything like that. It's like a family-oriented county, and all the counties around me, everybody know everybody. You can't be here and not know anybody, right? So we all can, we all connected, and honestly, I don't even really see too many slaves. Like I looked at the slave records now that's my county, I don't really see that. I just seen what was on the land.

SPEAKER_04 5:56

Right. You know, Albert Perry came from there. He was he was born in Carolina, and that man had he has the oldest gene, the oldest DNA. He has a A double O or something like that, the oldest Hiplo type. They they like he predates the earliest chromatic man or whatever they were saying, like, and he's an American black, like he was from Africa, but they of course they go put African American on there, but they know who we all know who they're talking about. You know, I I'm like what so if he was there and his ancestors had to be there, and he had and his ancestors had to have to carry this same hiplo type. Is North Carolina is the Carolinas the the the epicenter of creation? Like, is that where Adam and Eve was at? They say that that is the Adam Jean, right? The Adam Hiplotype, Albert Perry is. I don't know. I I you know I'm just learning just like everybody else, but you know, it it gets kind of deep though. So what do you what you think, Maureen? What you think about the transatlantic slave trade?

The Trans-Pacific Slave Trade Claim

SPEAKER_05 7:20

Well, this is my catch is that if they teach us and tell us and showed us and explained to us about the transatlantic slave trade, why they haven't teach us, showed us, explained to us, and taught us about the trans-Pacific slave trade. What makes a transatlantic slave trade more greater than the trans-Pacific slave trade?

SPEAKER_03 7:48

I never knew about that. What's that?

SPEAKER_04 7:52

What did that consist of? And like who who was who who was the slavers and who was the slavees, you know, for the better lack of words.

SPEAKER_05 8:02

The trans-Pacific slave trade was people that came from out of Asia to the Americas. And those were black folks that was that was brought here. That was the Trans-Pacific slave trade, and and if you look up some of the people that came in off the Trans-Pacific slave trade, they look just like you, me and you. But nobody talks about nobody talks about the Trans-Pacific slave trade. They only tell you about the transatlantic slave trade. And now you have to look at the Atlantic. Um, who was the people that was coming off the Atlantic Ocean? Trans-Pacific slave trade. Nobody talks about that.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Right.

SPEAKER_04 9:08

I'm looking at it right now. I ain't gonna lie. Like it ain't that I don't believe. I just wanna like I wanna know because I never heard of that. Like Thomas Low. Never heard of that. And it it, you know, that that's crazy. They don't tell us about that. We only know about the transatlantic and all we always, you know, like in school, we we was taught that that that that was our beginning. That was our beginning on on anything as far as that, like, you know what I'm saying? They didn't teach us past you know that or about 70 AD, or you know what I'm saying? Like now, they ain't tell us about 950 AD. Like, I mean BCE. They didn't tell us about none of that when when David was alive, Solomon. They ain't teach it because it was like more of a like they use that that that those stories for like religion purposes, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 10:03

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 10:04

Like, right, but the trans-Pacific slave trade were the it was like a lot of Asians that were brought here, but they were Negroid like they were not the pale-skinned Asians, those were Negroid Asians that came off the specific the trans-Pacific slave trade.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

Oh, so I'm looking at the pictures, the trans Atlantic slave trade, the trans-Pacific slave trade. And they showing pictures of like the so-called, like I guess depictions of the people that were on this, and they you right, bro. They they dark, they dark skin. They they they they heavy, heavy, heavily, they copper toned, actually, like you know, and then that is can I kind of add in something with that too?

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Oh, yeah, definitely. Now some of the some of them, some of them Asians from the Trans-Pacific, the Pacific slave trade. Now, some of them were like, because that's how you get today, like the Mexicans and stuff like that. So I keep that in mind as well. That's why Asians have, I mean, that's why Mexicans have Asian phenotypes, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of Latinos them, they have Asian phenotypes, and some of the people they call native today, like the South Berians, a lot of them came to the uh Pacific Strait slave trade. Just kind of keep that in mind too.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

Oh, since you just you just look at it, it says the trans electric trans-Pacific. Man, y'all be y'all don't miss, man. I swear. This says the trans, hold on, stop, get out of the way so I can read it. It says trans the trans-Pacific slave trade also included the enslavement and enslavement of Asian individuals, particularly those of the Philippines who were transported to Mexico and other parts of Latin America. Many of these individuals for faced harsh conditions and were often categorized collectively as Chino, as Chino Asians, I guess, or a screwing of the specific ethnic identities. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Wow. So that's people saying that they they indigenous.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

Right.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

So do you think that these people could could could could claim did you say that they could that they can't claim an indigenous situation, or they could?

SPEAKER_00 12:51

That they indigenous to America. Because that's what they were being, or if you look it up, they were being classified as indeed or native, being called natives when they got here.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

So when you Damn man these people didn't even walk over to Baron Street, they they got out, they got brought over here as slaves. Yeah, they didn't come over as as traders and merchants and stuff like that, they came over here as slaves, but we was already here though, so they came to our

From Chino To “Indian” By Law

SPEAKER_04 13:47

land.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

The the so damn type in type in to go with the trans-pacific slave trade, type in this on your Google, chinos became American Indians, type just that, and it's a book should come up. See what the sisters what the sister claim, you're about to see how one of the ways they took your identity as American Indian or the American indigenous status. Chinos became American Indian.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

What why are Chinos called? This is this is just in the I didn't even click in nothing. I just typed in what you said, and you know I drop down and shut and tell you Chinos became American Indians, the history of Tinos in California, from Chino to Indian. That sounds like a book that we might have to go reference and read one day. The Chinese and Native Americans. That is hold on, so let's go with this. Upon arrival in America, they were grouped together and categorized as Chinos. In time, Chinos came to be treated under the law as Indians, the term for all native peoples of Spanish, Spanish colonies, and became indigenous vessels of Spanish crown of the Spanish crown in 1672.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

That's the 1600s.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Yeah, 1600s.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

So they're talking, so the transatlantic slave trade was really them, not you, not me, not the sister.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

Damn.

SPEAKER_05 16:12

And you just saw what the sister I gave you earlier that they tried to become indigenous, but they're really not. We're showing you through records, they they gave them your they tried, they tried to and they were successful at it. They gave them your status.

SPEAKER_04 16:31

Damn. I shared my screen. Look at these, these is genos. Look, it says Indian population surpasses China this week. They look like they look like them Indians, they look like they from India, up north, Siberian. You know what I'm saying? That that is disgusting. These people are crazy. Hold on, well, let me pull this up. Let me let me get this together, man. These people are crazy, man. Like, I I I can't, I I'm disgusted.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

I really, like, I really am, y'all. Like this don't make no sense, man.

SPEAKER_04 17:16

Like, hold on. Let me see. Images. That's the Pacific slave trade. So this the transatlantic slave trade was was the Pacific Atlantic Atlantic slave trade. They they that was that's some destiny swap shit, ain't it? They destiny swapped us. That that is ugly, man. Hold on, y'all. Cause see. So you got anything to say about this? I would love to hear what you got to say.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

I I really do.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Um, they got a book too. Like, they know their history. I think it's called Asian, what is it? Asian slaves in colonial Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

If you looked at something like that, and they know their history. Like they know that a lot of a lot of Mexicans and you know, people of that nature, some of the uh non-Afro-Latinos, they take pride in their Asian um, they know who they are, they know exactly who they are, and they mix it another way too. I think one time Spain, because they're also Spaniards. I think Spain has some type of connection with the Philippines, you know, uh with Asian one time. But and also you keep this in mind too when it comes to Hollywood, how like if you look up the Indian and stuff, they give you their image, right? Because they started that's what your code was just talking about the image, how they took your identity. They started using Hollywood, showing you these people, people telling you these are the Indians. Now, when you think of the Indians, you think of these people, uh somebody Asian with the Asian phenotype comes to mind. So now when you show somebody that's Afro, maybe you know people want to go the science route. Okay, I don't remember, but if they want to go the science route, the scores and stuff that they've been finding that they've been digging up are negroid scores, even thousands and millions of years old. Oh, in America.

SPEAKER_04 19:31

Right, yeah, those negroes, yeah. So this is the book they were talking about, y'all. Asian slaves in colonial Mexico. If y'all want to go check it out, I advise y'all too. It's right here, Asian slaves in colonial Mexico, Asian slaves, particularly those categorized as Chinos, played a significant role in colonial Mexico, arriving primarily through the Melania Galline. I mean, I hey don't hey y'all just read it to yourself, man, for real. Let me make it bigger because see oh it ain't even on the screen. My bad, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

All right, here you go, right here. It it what's going on, it's my empty. Yeah, I don't am I is everybody on the stage? Remove, remove. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

I'm here, that's the boot too.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

And then you wonder why, like, y'all been seeing in the news, like how well I don't know if he just did he just and click out. But if you if you've noticed, like in the news, they've been having situations where ice been deporting, they've been getting the people that's supposed to be the Native Americans, right? So they've been getting them and confusing them with Latinos. This because they they're the same people, they had the same phenotype.

SPEAKER_04 21:46

Yeah, I've been seeing that too. Yeah, they've been they've been snatching them up since since like last year or like too, I think it was like 2024. They were snatching them up, getting them out of here. You see, you see. A lot now you're starting to see increasingly uh a lot of of AI videos about them talking about something hey America. If y'all, y'all are Americans, y'all love indigenous people. Why? But this is my thing. Why are they why people need to ask the question? Why are they making AI videos of themselves if they here? I would love to know that, huh? I see that's a good question. Yeah, we you don't see our people making AI videos of them. You know what I'm saying? We here. Like they making AI videos. I seen one AI video. Uh the uh damn uh damn Indian chick had a uh fat eye. She had a big black eye. I said, Yeah, see, that's that that's that alcoholism, the man over there beating their ass getting drunk, probably because they getting kicked out and they taking it on out on their wife. Their wife ain't got nothing to do with it. You know. The jig is up. Y'all try, y'all try hard to to disenfranchise us, but our father ain't gonna let it happen no more. I'm starting to see that. Starting to wake everybody up and let everybody know, like, yeah, y'all, y'all home. I just had to, I just had to move y'all around. We probably all was in one spot. We probably was all in America, in in North America at one time, one one point in time. And then when he he was like, hey, y'all gotta get cursed. I'm gonna curse y'all or whatever, he scattered us from the from Canada, the Northwest Territories, South America, no, I'm saying this everywhere, but we I think that like North America was like home base. Like, I may be wrong though. I may be wrong.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

What y'all think you can

Scripture On Estrangement From Home

SPEAKER_00 24:08

do?

SPEAKER_05 24:08

I just want to say this right here. Let me pull the scripture real quick.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Definitely.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

I'm gonna start out with Jeremiah Jeremiah nineteen and four. It says they because they have forsaken me and have estranged displaced and have burned incident in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocence. Now, what place they talk about that Israel made a strange.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

I would say our home. It would be talking about our home. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 25:14

Exactly. So do you know what a strange means? Yeah, no longer close or affectionate to. Okay. So we're no longer close or have an affection for our own homeland, our own culture, us as being a nation or a people, we don't have that affection no more. We became estranged to each other. Because think about it. I want you to think about this. How is it that a people can come here? Like me and the sister, me and the sister had just showed a group of people can come here as slaves and hop over you, but you say nothing about it. But we but we help them hop over us.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

That is that's deep because yeah, because man, when you tell people like, man, I've been telling brothers like man, yeah, this where we from. Man, no, we ain't, man. We ain't the most high gonna take us home. I said, Well, we already here. Like, where where we go go?

SPEAKER_05 26:40

If they tell if the remember what Deuteronomy said, remember what Moses remember what Moses said, you're going to be the kale, and they're going to be the what? Hey, yeah. So when we go to hotels, do not foreigners own them. When we go to gas stations, do not foreigners own them. When we go to jobs, do not foreigners own them.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

Even the even the even even the recipe of our people, do not foreigners own it.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:17

Because we are a strange. We we we we made ourselves estrange to our own selves.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Man, that's deep.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

That's deep. We done we we disassociated from our land, in our land. In our land, in the land that that fed us, that loved us, that that took care of us, that was made for us. We say, nah, this ain't our land. Because the white man told us we was from Israel, the state of Israel. The white man told us we was from Africa.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

That's nasty. But notice, yes, that is nasty word. Notice, notice this. They telling you what your culture is.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Right.

SPEAKER_05 28:17

They telling you, like you say, they say we come from Africa, or we that's the land, that's the promised land over there. They telling you that. But the moment you say, nah, this is our land here, notice people argue with you about that.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Yeah, all the time.

SPEAKER_05 28:34

But ain't nobody arguing about Africa, and ain't nobody arguing about that state, that land over there called Israel.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

So you know, um, let's see, I bring it up.

Promised Land Descriptions Versus Geography

SPEAKER_00 28:58

So, you know, like just to kind of off off of what he's saying about the promised land in Africa, right? So I did like a little, you know, I'll be doing research comparing America, Africa, to the Bible, like the promised land. So, you know, Ezekiel 20 and 6 tells you he's talking about in Ezekiel 20, right? He's talking about the creator. He's the creator talking about how he chose Israel and lifted up his hand, like he started verse 5. It says, And I said unto them, Thus said the Lord God, in that day when I chose Israel and lifted up my hand into the seed of the house of Jacob and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt. When I lifted up my hand unto them, saying, I'm the Lord your God. Verse 6, in that day I lifted up my hand unto them to bring them forth of the land of Egypt into a land that I had a spot for them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands. Now keep that in mind, the creator is telling you he has spied the promised land for Israel, and it's the glory of all lands. So out of all the land masters on earth, this is the glory of all lands. He had his eyes, he chose it just for Israel, right? And you put that with Deuteronomy 11, Deuteronomy 11 and 12, right? It says, So in a land, because he's talking about the promised land again. I'm not gonna, you know, so if y'all y'all going with your Bibles, Deuteronomy 11 and 12. A land which the Lord thy God cared for. The eyes of the Lord thy God are always upon it from the beginning of the year even until the end of the year. The creator is telling you his eyes are always upon this promised land. He is spotted just for Israel, it's the glory of all land, and he's always keeping an eye on that on this land. Forever, he's forever keeping an eye on this land, right? Ezekiel 5 and 5 tell you Jerusalem is in the midst of nations, it's like in the center of the nations, right? Now, keep all that in mind, right? And when you have Genesis like 13 and 10, right? Genesis 13 and 10. So this is talking about Lot, you know, Abraham and Lot, right? This is when they were trying to choose which way they were gonna go, right? They were separated. And verse 10, and Lot lifted up his eyes and beheld all the plain of Jordan, that it was well watered everywhere before the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, even as the Garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt, even as thou comest unto Zar. So keep all that in mind. So the the uh the plain of Jor Jordan, right, was well watered everywhere, right? And it was like the Garden of it was like the Garden of Eden, which I always I always compare the Garden of Eden to the Promised Land. I think it's the same land, but that's another subject, right? But um, and it's it's telling you it's just like Egypt as well, right? So you got Egypt, you got the plain of Jordan, and the promised land. Those places are described as being well watered, right? Well watered everywhere, right? Then you also have in 2 Kings 18, 32, right? Because we're gonna add Assyria in there. This is when Assyria was threatening, you know, to take Israel off, right? Off their land and threatening Hezekiah. So that's 2 Kings 18 32. This is the king of Assyria threatening Hezekiah, threatening Israel, right? So if you read verse 1, it says, Hearken not to Hezekiah, for thus said the king of uh Assyria, make an agreement with me by present and come out to me, and then eat ye every man of his own vine and every one of his own fig tree, and drink ye every one of the waters of his sister, right? Verse 32 until I come to take you away to a land like your own land, a land of corn and wine, a land of bread and vineyards, a land of olive oil and the honey that you may live and not die, and hearken not unto Hezekiah when he persuaded you, saying, The Lord will deliver us. So now you got Assyria. So Assyria, Egypt, the promised land, which is the plain of Jordan, all that Egypt, all of those places are considered to be well watered, right now. If you look up Jordan, right, and because I actually done this, right? So if you look up Jordan and water, let me see if I can even find where I looked at that picture. I looked it up. If you look up Jordan and water, over there in the Middle East and North Africa, and these places are like the most water scarce places on earth. Like right here, Jordan. If you look it up, Jordan is one of the world's most water-scarce countries. But the Bible is telling you it's supposed to be well watered everywhere. But they have an issue, you know. I'm saying they have water shortages over there. Like, um, like if you actually compare the Bible, like the animals, which I've done, I can show you the animals in the land to Africa and North Africa in the Middle East, it's no comparison. Like America fits way more the promised land. Like when you were talking about not getting too far ahead, but when you asked, when you said something about I think Albert Perry, North Carolina. So keep this in mind that gopher wood, because your cob actually put me onto this, gopher wood is actually indigenous to Georgia and Florida, but that's the wood that was Noah had made the arc out of. Yeah, and you can actually look that up. So keep that uh man.

Testing Claims Against Public Records

SPEAKER_04 34:55

So I'm looking at slavevoyages.com, right? And I'm I'm still listening to you guys. I'm listening to you because you just I got a tab of some other stuff that you was talking about that I'm go that I want to look at too. I'm just like y'all should see my laptop. I'm tabbed up over here, but I'm looking at Slave Voyages and uh Slave Voyages.com. Y'all check it out, man. It's this is what they're saying. So you can't dispute it. This is what they're saying, and this one thing I gotta say about America. We keep records. We keep records of everything, good to bad, the ugly. Like, we keep records. Like, and I'm looking at, so it has to where you can look at where the year, the the year, but in between the range and the years the slaves were brought, the different ports and everything, the port where it started, where they started, the port where they ended and stuff. So I did I did Africa and I did all the ports that that they said you know slaves came out of in Africa, like 14 of them. And then I I did the end, the end was America. They said that the what as many it was only 109 of them that embarked on a boat from eight from 15, hold on, from 1546 to 1896, 109, and 106 of them disembarked in America. And all the portion of America, like America's more the north and main, I did the North Main, the mainland north. So it was only 106 Africans, like real Africans, and at that time they wasn't even, well, 18, well, it depends on what time they came, they probably wasn't even called Africans. You know what I'm saying? They was probably called something else, like Nigerians or Gambians or Ghanaians, they wasn't they weren't called Africans then because the Africa wasn't even called Africa back then, but it was only a hundred and six. This is these is reports that they that they coming up with. This is uh it's a dot org too. But we gotta understand most of this stuff is coming from the the Mormons and all that stuff like that. But honestly, man, like if you look at if you look at this, like and look at this other stuff that they that the sister and the brothers bringing out, man, it it's it's pointing to over here. Everything is just pointing to over here. Yeah, I I what you got to say, Moray, man. I you I I know you have to say something, man.

SPEAKER_05 37:52

If you look at what you just brought out, it never told you the race of those people. Yeah. Yeah. So you you you you we don't know if we're talking about Negroid or Caucasians. Right. But the thing is about that, you could see people that's melanated and Caucasians coming from out of Europe. But you don't see you don't see the Negroy from America being shipped to America.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

Right, man. That is I I don't even know for real, y'all. Like, I I'm cyber gas tick for real. Cause this is it's deeper than what I thought.

SPEAKER_05 38:58

Like I'm just why the system was giving you the location. That's why the system was giving you the locations because remember, pilgrims travel to the promised land. Right before they pilgrimage. And remember, Muslims go to Muslims go to Saudi Arabia, right? They pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia. But the pilgrim from Europe came here. Right, yeah. That's because the promised land is over here. Everybody run over here though, too. Everybody run over here. That's because the promise land is here.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Not only that though, but like we had our own like slave trades. We had our own, like, they were shipping negroes from North, South, and Central America, right? You can look that up and see where they were doing that. I mean, they even got a story of a woman that was shipped, her family was shipped from Virginia to Antigua, and they just they did some kind of testing, but they found out she didn't have they always thought he was from Antigua. Come to find out they was really from Virginia the whole time. So, but when they was taking those people and shipping them back and forth, you think they was calling them people or the people knew where they were going, or whatever, by the time they got the vote, they was probably labeling them Africa or just Negroes, because that's what they were calling the people in Brazil. If you look it up, it's the court case in Brazil, like in the 1700s, but they went to court because they were calling the uh indigenous people negroes.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Look, this is a well-documented court case.

SPEAKER_04 41:00

Yeah, right. You said what's that court made? I'm about to look at that too. What you say, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

Um, I I got the document, so it's like a court case that happened in the 1700s, where it was like in Brazil, they were calling them negroes, the slave negroes. Before that, that was a term they were using to describe as slaves at first until the verb negro became more synonymous with slave and whatnot. But that's what they were calling the indigenous people, right? So when they would take these people from north, south central America and be shipping them different places, right? Especially the ones that were like fighting back and rebellious, right? When they would take them and ship them somewhere else, they were probably what were they labeling these people when they shipped them there? Were they saying these are Indians and what were they saying?

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Yeah, I wonder what they what was they saying? What was they calling them?

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Yeah, because like the Naschez Indians, I think in like Mississippi, they got shipped in Haiti, and they probably called Africans right now.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

Yeah, they probably are called Africans now, yeah. Because they I heard a lot about like about Haiti and like a lot of people they they try to say, I I think Haiti like Dominicans and and Haitians are the same people. They they not they they on the same island, they the same people, you know. I would say you know, they don't they don't think that they are though, you know what I'm saying? Maybe it's not for me to understand like so we can look at certain things aspects in the in the Bible and the descriptions, like that, because the brother uh Ya Cob he told us he was telling us the last time that the Bible speaks about America and what was going on and what's going on, and you know, like this the demographic of America. Like, so what's some of the scriptures that we can you know use and and and bring to light with that, like as far as showing the people how it was like you know, talking about America? I know y'all y'all been bringing up y'all been bringing up out already, but I was like, is it any more that we could, you know, possibly man, what there we go. Is it any more that we could possibly, you know, use to show our brothers and sisters because they, you know, a lot of our brothers and sisters they gotta see it in the scripture to believe it. You know what I'm saying? And and I always wondered why, like when when When history, the the scriptures is nothing but a history book to you know to tell you. We read, we follow and study Torah, but you know, the history is is is littered through the Bible, like you know what I'm saying? And but a lot of people live by it, like you know, as far as like book, and I guess that's because of Christianity, you know what I'm saying? You have any other scriptures that y'all could pull out to to show the people, you know 59 marks.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Yeah, do you mean like I mean we can I can I can show you some scriptures like we can show you something like with the lambass, the trees, the animals. And if you read about if you read about also just keep this in mind too, Tyreek and Zidon, the Canaanites are more important than people give them credit for. I mean, they way more important, like the Canaanites were over the world trade at one time, and they were already trading with Europe and all these places. So when people thinking that when the Europeans came over here, this was their first time coming over here. No, they've been it's been a world trade, nothing's doing in the sun. The world's been trading, like that lie they tell that Christopher Columbus was the first guy that learned how to cross the oceans and go, and he first got discovered America. That's foolishness. Even if you go to Isaiah 23, I think that's the one right. Let me pull it up, Isaiah 23, and kind of study this. Me and your code, we did like a live on this before, and like it was deep. But Tyree, if you read Ty, if you read Isaiah 23, it's telling you a little bit about Tyree in the chapters before and after that, too. It's telling you about how Tyree, you know, they were on the coast, right? Of the promised land, right? The Canaanites, they were trading with Tarshish. Even when you start in verse 1, Isaiah 23 and 1, the burden of Tyree, how he ships the Tarsus, for it is laid waste so that there's no house, no entering in from the land of Chinnah. It is revealed to them. These are European places, this is Japan. Even if you go down, like in UK. So if you continue to read down, because like I'm driving, but if you continue to read down throughout that chapter, it's telling you about Tyreed and how they were basically over the slave trade, and they were taking all types of they were looking the Canaanites was taking all types of goodies from everywhere on the land, and they were um basically trading with Europe with Japhet. And the creator even tells Japhet to come over, like for the strength of them is gone. It's like trying to find the scripture.

Identity, Land, And Cultural Imitation

SPEAKER_04 47:10

But no, I was looking at some. I be wanting to make posts sometimes, man, and then I like it maybe it just be the route, like, nah, I don't do it. Like, but it's this one post I was gonna make, and it was talking about the seven nations that the most high didn't want us to intermingle with. And when you look at, I think it was Chronicles, first chronicles chapter 24, where it talks about Hampshire, and then when it then in Deuteronomy 7, when it tells you these people that not you're not supposed to mess with, like they mirror Ham's descendants, like, and I'm like, people will sit here and be like, Man, we from Africa, we this, we that. Even some brews will say that, man, and it's like, or they be like, Man, they they they are brothers. We, you know, we gotta stop that the diaspora war. And I don't think it's the a diaspora war because us in America, we ain't warring with each other. Like, we know who we are. We know we gotta we got a clear agenda now, you know. And for once, I feel like our our people are like getting kind of getting on cold, you know. Y'all may see differently, but I, you know, I look at I be on the TikTok streets and all that good stuff like that, and just like different in the real streets, and I see our people like really getting on cold and like delineating, like, nah, man, y'all ain't us. You know, y'all need to, you know, we're cool. We ain't got no damn I'm sitting here talking and talking and talking and talking, but but yeah, I I just the the all I can say is that the delineation is is needed. It it's going to be a great, a grand, it's gonna be on a grand scale because they already and see the thing about it is is that they hate the fact that they hate the fact that black folks is waking up to who we really is, and even if you call yourself Israel or whatever you say, so line or whatever, you know what I'm saying? We all the same people and we all know that this is our land. We the only people that have land patents to America, land patents, you know, from ancestors long, long ago. Like, and if any white person got one, they either stole it or stole the land or it just ain't them, or you know, they they probably was like wheeled into it or something like that, but they don't they didn't they didn't own the land like we did and and work the land like we did. So, you know, but I just hate the the fact that now that everybody is trying to tether on to us and tether on to our plight and tether on to our not just our plight, but our accomplishments. Our accomplishment they saying they they even saying Michael Jackson is African, and and everybody just African. Like you see that you see the the Caribbean starting to say we ain't African either. And I'm like, delineate, but see, I I don't have a problem with Africa or Africans. I don't. I I just know that we're not them, and it's nothing wrong with that. It's nothing wrong with that, but they make it seem like like it's just like we hating, we we we we causing division with the the vision with everything uh just negative, and it's like why we can't just be ourselves, why we can't be us?

SPEAKER_05 51:08

Why is it that we gotta be go ahead because they they took your they took everything from you. The uh the web diction the webster dictionary, the webster dictionary of 1828, and type in the word American, it'll tell you they stole your they stole your identity. So they they job is never to allow you to be who you are, it's never to allow to be who you are, it's always to keep you in the back. Remember what the sisters just say the Canaanites was over the slave trade, yeah. And remember what the creator said because we didn't destroy them, they're gonna be a thorn in our side forever. So, what is one of the thorns? Yeah, the one of the thorns is telling you you come from Africa, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:02

Trying to tell trying to try to try to erasure the erasure and destiny swappers, like and why like I understand why now like the I I've been understood, but it's like it's more prevalent, like these scriptures, man. Y'all, if y'all don't think that don't don't dump dump curses in Deuteronomy 28 is real and they they hitting hard, man. Just look at our people, look at us. Like the brother said earlier, man. We we hate our land. Let's it's just let's just be real. We hate our land, and it's not because the land, it's because of the government. The government that's that's that's the white supremacy, and we have to understand that white supremacy is only as strong as it is in our mind. You know what I'm saying? It ain't even that strong. It's it's really trash. It's a it's a really because they I'm just gonna be real and I'm not like I guess I I guess you can call me a bigot, whatever, but they not that smart. Like they really not. Like they they not everything that that that they have created, it was off the backs of a foundational black American, the Israelite. It was off our backs, off of our ideas, what we wanted, just like they said the cell phone, but we the brother, the brother created the stuff that goes inside the phone, the sister created the the the touch screen, and then she made it to where you can make Apple payments and all that good stuff like that. You know, we we have so many, so many things and and and contributions to this world that that's why they hate us. That's why they hate us, because they not us, and they haven't ain't nobody contributed to the world like us as much as we have. And we over here, we've been over here living with these with these crackers for the longest, putting our foot to their ass for the longest. It it got to the point where they didn't they done they done they trying to find new ways to be racist, new ways to hold us back. Now, and then the newest way was bringing in that buffer class. That didn't work, it backfired them. Every time they try something, the most I make it backfire on them until it's gonna be the the the final straw, and he just go like man is wipe these mugs out, bro. You know, our ancestors fought on this land for this land in every war. It wasn't a war over here that we didn't fight in. Name one. You can't our ancestors bled, sweat, and died on this soil. All of them are buried. Look at the devil's punch bowl. 20,000 of our ancestors in mass graves. Now peaches is growing down there. You know, it it it it gets it gets real.

SPEAKER_05 55:10

Well, the king of African Americans just died. You heard about him, right?

SPEAKER_04 55:14

Say what now?

SPEAKER_05 55:15

The king of African Americans just died, you heard about him, right?

SPEAKER_04 55:19

No, oh, oh, yeah. But see, they they were saying, I heard a brother say that that that one of them pan-Africans, they said that they was using, they was classifying us as African American in like 1776, something like that. And I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, it it but he brought up the link though, like he brought up the he brought he brought the receipt and it said it. And I'm like, well, even though it wasn't it wasn't on none of our ancestors' birth certificates or death certificates, so they wasn't classifying us as that at that time. They probably was just saying it was like hearsay, like or like like how they say Piccanini or oh, you're African American, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 56:03

But you can't even go to what is called censor recognized the word African American, so that word African American was added, yeah. Yeah, so I don't I I would have had to vote that. I would have had to vote that because they've been adding, they would go around adding the word African American into a lot of lot of language, right?

SPEAKER_04 56:33

Right, you know what I'm sick of too? I'm sick of them putting Afro in front of everything, Afro-Latina, Afro-African. Like, how can he be an Afro-African? I don't like y'all just trying too hard to stop. Like, why can't we just be us? See, okay, I'm about to speak it to the camera. My my fellow melanated Caribbeaners and Africans. We as black people, black Americans, we are just we just want to be left alone. We want to live a civil life, get money, raise our children, visit, visit each other, visit our ancestors, go on travel trips. We ain't going nowhere to stay, or we ain't fleeing because that ain't the American way. We don't do stuff like that. We go somewhere and we might stay for a little while and then come on back home because we know ain't no better place, ain't no place like home. Click your heels, you know what I'm saying? But what I'm asking, and what we all are asking, is that please stop trying to be us. It's not flattering anymore. It's not you cosplaying us, it's not flattering anymore, it's irritating. It's irritating because y'all not doing it right. Y'all are imitating the worst of the worst of us, the the so-called Negro, nigga, with the hard E, the hard E R, the nigger. You are impersonating him, them. Impersonate somebody like that, one of our doctors or one of our great leaders or something like that. Impersonate somebody that's positive in our in our neighborhood. Y'all ain't doing nothing but make and add into the the white supremacist talking points that all black people ain't shit. And it ain't even us because we ain't on welfare. We ain't a lot of us ain't on Section 8, a lot of us out here grinding, trying to get it from the mud and make it happen and go to work. You can't say that we lazy. I remember I was looking at uh the Cat Williams special, and he was like, man, he's like, man, it's time for everybody to stand up. Like, man, everybody gotta do their part. It's like, man, the Mexicans and immigrants say if we ain't picking the the vegetables and the fruits, then who gonna pick them? He was like, I know one thing, niggas ain't never going to be a few. I said, look who our father is, you know. You they don't think that that that we would that they uh that he made us in his in his likeness and he's great. He's great, and he made us as such. So I understand why a lot of people just you know on they they mess with us, but come on, man, like for real, for real, like we we just want our identity back. We want our identity back, we want our land back. We got our God back. We know who our who our Elohim is, we know who who who who who rises the sun on our faces and and and sets it in our same face. We know who we can call on and ask for help and strength and power. We know we know that now. Y'all y'all can't take that from us, y'all can't have it. The jig is up with that. We know who Yahoo is, we know who whatever you want to call him, we know who he is, and we know it what he has done for us and what he will do for us. What we want is to live peaceable, we want our identity back, we want our land back, we want to be left the hell alone and everybody get the hell out and leave us to our leave us to our own our own mischief, whatever it is we go do. It don't matter, we home, we can do it, we can do it because we here, you know what I'm saying? All we asked is that y'all just go build up your homes, y'all build up your lands, y'all didn't build no America, y'all didn't build it. Chinese the Chinese only the the Asians only bent built like 25 to 25 to 30 percent of the railroads in America, but they didn't build no infrastructure, they didn't build the infrastructure. We did that, we did that. We didn't we didn't have help, we didn't have help building our land. We had to we we it was already built, and then the pilgrims came in and did whatever they did, and you know, now we here. But I I just you know this is a plea. Like we we we we we love y'all, like we you know, we fought for y'all to come over here. All we ask is stop cosplaying us. If you go do it, do it good, at least imitate us good, like y'all ain't even imitating us right, y'all making us look like buffoons, y'all making us look stupid, man. And we not we we are respectable people and we a protected class. Y'all think we is, but we is why is it that why is it that Trump is shitting on and talking about everybody in America, even the white folks that said for us? That man ain't had nothing bad to say about us since he's been in office, and black folks is sitting here dogging this man out, dogging him out. Why he ain't said nothing bad about you, he ain't took no job from you, he ain't did nothing for you. Did you he ain't touched your kids? I don't even think he touched these kids, but that's a hearsay, hearsay. You know, I don't know. But what all I'm saying is that he ain't did nothing bad to us. I can't, I'm I'm still working. Black unemployment ain't went up, they can say it, but they they can inflate the but the thing about it is we gotta understand that the the numbers is inflated because of the melanated immigrants, they they inflate those numbers just like they inflate the EBT numbers, they inflate the the the smexual numbers, all they they inflate all the stuff that they say about us, bad about us, these numbers inflated, and they know that's not us. They say we don't know our fathers, but why is it 19 million orphans in Africa right now, 19 million orphans in Africa right now that don't know their father? But they say he don't know. I know my father, his name was Charles Amos Chows. My grandfather was Bobby Amos Chows. He was born in 1839. I know my lineage, I know my father. I'm not trying to dig at nobody, but stop saying that that's us. When we are went when we done came, we done came from a lot, y'all. We y'all know we have. We used to be, we used our our people used to be crap for real. I can't say that. But we done got we done we done got better, a newer generation that came in. The silent generation is gone. Rest in peace to our our elders and our ancestors, the boomers, a lot of the boomers are gone. Rest in peace to our boomers, to our ancestors, and now this the the the the the the the the X, the Lennials, the millennials, and the Z. We here, and we all on one accord, we all on one code, and the code is we proud, we proud to be where we from. There's so many of us like, man, we are American, we this, we that. And it's it's beautiful, it's beautiful to see this happening. All I ask is that we just stop undermining us, stop trying to get into our politics and undermine everything that we try to do for the advancement of us. Putting these tethers in our faces, trying to cosplay us. Obama. He man, he cosplayed us so good. Man, that man had he had he was the best. That nigga should he should get an Emmy award for his acting. He acted for eight years as a black man, and we ate it up line and secret. No, no wonder why they was about to go for Kamala. We just voted a tether in and let him run. King, not just rather regular tether. He was King, King Tether. That man played us so good and didn't even do nothing for us. But helped the LGBT and made it due process. So when they he started the deporting people, see that's what a lot of people ain't know too. He he did the NDA. So when he started to deport people, he didn't have to get on, he didn't have to get them due process. Get your ass out of here.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:38

That's what he was doing. He set he set the balls up and knocked them down. Strike like Al Bundy. Strike. And we sat there and watched it. Ice and everything was on motherfuckers' asses, was on their asses. So soon as Trump activates them, now it's like they're bad. They ain't did nothing to us. I mean, I'm just gonna be real. I I know it's hard to like, I know it's kind of messed up to say, but it's truth. It's the truth. We are a protected class and we don't even know. Just like how they try to protect, they they said oh the Asians is a protected class. Why they protect the class on somebody else's land? Why are they protected? They need to go too. Just go. You know, but I feel like I'm talking too much, y'all. I just I just had to do that because I I see so many of our brothers and sisters have to combat this flat blackness. And it's it's really like it's really killing our our nation. It's really killing our nation, killing our people, and it's it's conflating the numbers. You can't get down there. I'm busy. No, go go go play.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Turn it, turn that light off in there, please.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:07

But yeah, it's like everybody wanna, you know, just tether on the things like they like one brother, mayor of Chicago, he said, man, my mother, my mother is Jamaican, and and my father, he said his father was somewhere from somewhere else, but he was born in America, and because he hit he's a first generation acre baby, so because his parents won't receive, won't be eligible for reparations, he's against it. I said that's some selfish stuff like that. Man, these people hate us that much. They do not want to see us win. But they don't, but this is the crazy part. This is why they hate us too, because they've been having to watch us win without reparations, without anybody helping us, and won and still winning. Still winning. We just ain't the top yet, but we still win. Just because we ain't the top don't mean we don't win. We got in America right now, we got over two million millionaires, black millionaires, over two million, over two million. We have 23 federally and insured banks in America right now. Countless black-owned restaurants and groceries and stores, and we just we just ain't get we we had to get it out of the mud. They came over here and got it, got it out the got it out the got it out the check. They got it out of the the government, the taxpayer money. I ain't a taxpayer. I I just I refuse to pay taxes while they giving money to immigrants and people that that that ain't helping and putting towards America. I refuse. I refuse. They they just have to put me in jail. I refuse, man. Like after that 19 million, man, that was that was a hard blow right there, y'all. That was a hard blow. And then they still then I now they finding out that they a lot of that money was connected to and sent to El Shabaab and Kenya. Guess who else from Kenya? King Tether. But yeah,

What Is The Practical Remedy?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:27

man. I mean, so uh the question is what's the what's the remedy for all this, y'all? What y'all think other than you know just praying to the most high, being staying faithful and loyal servants to the most high? Like, what can we do to combat this flat blackness other than like delineation? What could we do to combat it? Because it's it's getting out of hand. It's getting it's really getting out of hand, and like everybody is just like they taking their turn spitting on us. Like, and they doing it publicly too, though. That's what hurts the most. They doing it publicly, and our brothers and sisters see it, and they like, yeah, immigrants did it, immigrants did it. Man, stop being bootleggers. I people, my people, stop being bootlegers to these immigrants and the and the and this white supremacy. White supremacy brought them in here to destroy us and try to disenfranchise us and and and destroy our neighborhoods, but our neighborhoods still thriving. We still thriving, we still get married to each other, we still having babies, we still getting money. What y'all got to say about that white supremacy?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:46

Huh? I I mean whoever, I I was his long-winded in my badge. I ain't even mean to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:53

I wanna kinda I want to kind of piggyback off of something you said, right? Um so even uh his first we don't follow the creators work. That's that's scripture. Um and I wanted to say this your audio going crazy, sis.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:25

Yeah, it's like like pitching out, like you like kind of there there you go. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It just sounds like you're pitching out a lot. Hold on, let me turn you down a little bit. Okay, go ahead and talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:53

All right, so is this better?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, you got yourself. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:00

So um Psalms 106 24 says, Yeah, they despise the place of land, they believe not his word. So Israel been despising a land. Anytime you don't keep the laws and commandments, you're showing you despise the land because that's the creators' punishment for the land and spew us out, right? It throws us out of it. And I wanted to say this too about what you were saying about why the tethers and stuff, why they don't, why do they cosplay the negatives about black Americans, right? But here's the thing it was, it was it was it was so-called black Americans' job to teach the other people the laws and commandments. You were supposed to teach them how to serve the creator, but you didn't teach them how to serve the creator. So now they're they're already used to they're used to imitating you anyway, because remember, at one time you were the head and not a tail. So they were used to imitating you. So when you switched over to the negatives and the bad, and now they over you, when you're picking up stuff for them, and they still imitating you, they still got it in them to imitate you, but until you return back to teaching them the laws and commandments, and you know, until you get back to your true self, then they're gonna imitate whatever you do. And as far as what you said about like is there anything that we can do, like as far as besides staying faithful to the creator, I don't know. I think I think that's the big one because that's the scripture, like that's Deuteronomy 30 and 1. You got to call the mind and turn back to the creator, you and your seed when you do that, because don't forget the creator hits for these people and brought them over here. So let's be also have to keep that in mind too. The creator brought these people over here at you, they punishment for you. Um, he keeps them around, they put the stuff they do is is is afflicted, but it's in them. They hardwise to afflict you. That's their job to afflict you and punish you to make you turn back. And I feel like it's so it's so it's so many so-called black Americans that just don't care. They don't care, they brainwash, like you said, they trash Donald Trump. Donald Trump did more for us than Barack Obama, than any of these people, right? I mean, even him bringing ice is a blessing for black Americans. Like, black people, I mean, I know a proof, but like it's some type of craziness. It's like that that deep sleep is crazy for you to think that okay, we come from Africa. This and this ain't not land, this land stolen land. So, yeah, let the foreigners come on. That's how you have black people thinking, like, man, the foreigners can be here because the black man is so busy trying to attack the so-called white man, thinking that's your only enemy, to where you think that the way to attack him is to unite with the foreigners and like, yeah, let the foreigners coming in, but they coming into your neighborhoods, they're coming into your culture, they can't forget that foreigners don't come beefing with the white men. And I don't care what the white men do to foreigners, the foreigners are never look at the white man and see the white men as the enemy. They looking at the black men, they looking at the American Negro, they looking at you, they come for you, even with bad bunny, right? So I'm not with that dude. Like, I be I be saying, like, that guy, he's he's a Spaniard, right? But notice how now it was supposed to be some type of beef between him and Trump, him and the white people, right? But notice how as soon as he performed at the Super Bowl the next day, they started comparing him to Michael Jackson, they started comparing him to Kendrick Lamar. They always they took him, and instead of using him to downgrade white America, they used him to downgrade black America in Black History Month, and they tricked black people into fighting for Latinos in Black History Month. All I've been seeing is black people fighting for Latinos.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:42

Man, I ain't got it for them, man. They better fight their own battle, man. Don't even come my way.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:48

Don't add nobody, none of my people. Don't ask us. Latinos, we love y'all too, but y'all gotta fight right in privacy. See, this is the thing. Everybody gotta step up now. Y'all have to y'all lace up your boots, pull up y'all pants, put y'all belts on, and get out there in them trenches. Y'all got to. We did we done did it for six, seven. We've been doing it for more than 400 years, y'all. More. Let's just stop with this 400 stuff. We've been doing it for eons. Fighting these crackers, fighting everybody all our life, our whole existence has been fight. And we've been winning. Winning. So now y'all need to go out there. Y'all see, we don't have to get out here to fight with y'all for y'all to know how to do it. We showed y'all. We gay. That's why we say we the blueprint, because we showed y'all how to fight white supremacy. We showed y'all, y'all didn't want to listen. Y'all nah, the white man bread is better. White man bread better. White man pop the white man pie better, boss. Okay, go over here and eat the white man pie. Because when he kick you in your ass and he start to he start to deporting y'all, then what? Then y'all, y'all wanna let that one Mexican lady is like, y'all need to start, y'all need to start kissing black ass. Nah, it's too late for that. It's too late. We all won't. Y'all gonna poker up somebody. Well, y'all gonna perk up and get up under somebody else's desk. We don't we don't want it. We good. We what we want is to be left the hell alone and keep our names out your motherfucking mouths. Please. Keep our names out your mouths. Because we we we don't when we in spaces and stuff like this and talking to must, we ain't we ain't talking about y'all. We talking about big plans where we go do the our families checking up with each other. We ain't worried about no immigrant, we ain't worried about one white person. No, no, y'all don't exist until we see y'all. Like, you know what I'm saying? So stop it. Stop it. Like, we just want to be left alone. What you what you think, Moray?

Accountability And Reversing The Curse

SPEAKER_04 1:19:04

What you think? You already quiet, man. I I gotta get you into this conversation.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:10

Oh I mean, my thing is this here. My thing is y'all hear me. Okay, my thing is this here. Nothing is gonna change until we acknowledge our offense. These things, these people are doing they are doing what is designed by the Creator to do against us. When the Bible says that we're gonna be the tail and they're gonna be the head, we're gonna be the bottom, they're gonna be the top, that is prophecy. All the stuff is reversible. All the stuff is reversible, but the question is, are we ready and are we willing to reverse it? Right because I mean, think about it, just real quick, and I'm gonna land my plane. If we got all this information that these people had lied to us educational-wise, why haven't nobody brought a lawsuit? Why are we still paying taxes to the internal revenue service? Why we still allowing our children to learn a lot in school?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:46

That is crazy. That is a good answer.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:58

When we realize the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:23

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:24

There's a ribbon, it's not gonna make it all Israel, all Israel's not gonna make it.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:30

Right. That's a deep question, man. I hey, if anybody on the on the on the on the on the recording on on here watching this wanna wanna answer that question, drop that, drop your answer in the quest in the in the comments, man. Cause like we really gotta, we we got some questions that need to be answered. I mean, at least I know I do, right? But definitely, bro. Go ahead. I'm my bad for cutting y'all, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:54

Nah, nah, you're right, you good, you good. But that's just that's just my point. You know, we we still haven't yet made it to the point where we can actually literally take back the lineage that these people stole. Because we realized, like the sister said earlier, the Canaanites wasn't controlling the slave trade. So if they control the slave trade, then who was controlling the missed education? Was it the same people or was it the white man? Because according to Genesis 9.27, the Canaanites gonna be working for Jaffin.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:40

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:43

So that means people that look like us is the actual corporate of this whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:50

I remember a brother was telling me, like, man, he's like, Man, Africans ain't your enemy, this and this and that, man. They they they they here to help. I said, Yeah, that's that's what that's what the Israelites thought before when we went down in Egypt. That's what we thought before when we was messing with them Egyptians. We thought we thought they was here to help. They wasn't. I like I said, I don't got no again, nothing against them, man. They just they just they need to stop acting like they didn't come from a third world country. Let's just be real. That's what y'all need to stop acting like. Like, I know it takes a lot to get over here to America. I know it do. But after that, that's all like it ain't like y'all advancing or y'all doing better than anybody that's over here already. Like, y'all, y'all just need to humble y'all selves, man. A lot of them need to humble themselves. And a lot, it's a lot of them. I done met some, I done met some cool ass Africans, like, like, man, especially South Africans. South Africans are the Negroes of Africa. They are the Negroes of Africa. Like, because they are dealing with immigrants and they them them them the Nigerians don't nobody like Nigerians, man, for some odd reason. I don't know why. They cool people, but don't nobody really in Africa like them. Like, and it's crazy because when you when you see like you get on certain like like panels, TikTok panels with them, or do you see get on their lives on their YouTube and they be doing lives, they be talking about each other like horribly, like, but then like they got all the smoke for all these melanated people, but not the the white man. Why is it that they all they all got this got smoke for us, but they but not the white man, not the one that that they came and destabilized your destabilized your country when we know who really destabed.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:50

White man's allowed the sheet.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:53

Yeah, like they ain't got no smoke for them. Like, they got smoke for us, though. Like, and and like I said, they people they the whole world done seen us like put belt to ass, foot to ass to to the white man. Like, I think we the only ones that ain't scared to the fight back. I know, I know our brothers down in Venezuela and all that, and and and Brazil, they they get bucked. Yeah, they'll get bucked in a minute. You go to the Fabellas, man, shit, you gonna you ain't the right person, right color. You ain't even up out of that joint, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I definitely just man, it's crazy because we have we got three more years of Trump, and then after that, it's like, well, then what? You know what I'm saying? Like, hopefully he get it, he he he cleaned up enough to where you know we just now we just gotta fight this white supremacy. Cause it's it's tired, man. We've been fighting white supremacy, and now we gotta fight them immigrants too. Like, man, come on. Like, when do we all my life I had to fight? Like, that is that is not it is not have to be the the the definition of us like struggle and fight. No, we a good, we a happy people, man. We we are happy people, we are oppressed people where we happy and we caring and we loving, you know, we we we patient, like we have a lot of good traits about us, man. Like, and and a lot of a lot of other people take advantage of that because of those traits, you know, and because our father commanded us to be good to people, like you know what I'm saying? He he told us to be good to people, like, you know, and we was we was naturally like that because look at Father Abraham, you know, we was naturally like that, but it's just crazy that that now in 2026, it's like man everybody hate our damn guts even more than they hate our guts 10 years ago. Like, they always hated our guts, but it seemed like it's at an all-time high now, y'all. Like, don't haven't y'all noticed that though, like it's it's it's at an all-time high, like, and we ain't even did nothing to nobody. We just trying to live our life. Like, how can people be hated that's just trying to live their life and not fucking with nobody? Do y'all understand that? I don't I don't understand it. Like, I know it's a part of our curse, but man, that that sucks.

Who Gets Credit For The Culture?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:28

They really do.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:30

From what I can see, they can see the time is ticking. Like, from what I can see, so basically, you know, they've been coming in waves over here over the past over the decades, right? But now that they've over here and they're in numbers, right? So they're over here now, they're in numbers, and they're realizing everything it is that can be done has already been accomplished and done. Everything musically, like black Americans, so called black Americans have set the bar and then established every single Thing so it's nothing for them to establish, it's nothing for them to do, it's nothing for them to create, it's nothing for them to be known for, right? So now it's like, well, dang, we can't we can't find a way in. Y'all done everything like you talked about earlier. Y'all have created, y'all built all the infrastructure, y'all are the culture. You created all the culture, right? Um, right. So now it's like, well, what can we do to be, you know, it's like they want a chance to be black. They think being black is just like a a title or a position, like a job. And they're like, it's our turn. Not just and now, but they got over here now, they realized it'll never be their turn. It's nothing they can do to make an impact, it's nothing they can do to be known. So it's like, well, you know what? We can't do nothing. Let's write ourselves until your history, let's take your history. That's why you get the fat Joes and all those people, right? Oh, well, we was in hip hop with y'all. We was right here beside y'all. We did these things with y'all, right? That's why you have now the Jamaicans trying to take credit for hip hop. That's why you have now, when really hip-hop, you know, James Brown was rapping, and even the dance moves they were doing back in the day, all those dance moves were originated from down south, and the southern artists were moving up north, you know what I'm saying? So, like it the hip-hop was really created down south, most of the elements of hip-hop, but it was monetized and put together up north, and then they bring all the immigrants up north to the immigration ports. Then when they get there, they're like, now they want to take credit. Well, hip hop started here, but that's because they don't realize all the elements of hip-hop was down south. So that's that's pretty much what it is. They want to write themselves into your history because they realize that you done created all the history, they can't make any more history.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:45

That's deep. Yeah, they they they haven't had, they haven't contributed nothing to and you if you ask one of them like what like what what was our history pet before before 1885? They just be shook, like they don't even know. They can't even tell you they ancestors or where they ancestors are buried. You know, half of them come over here, and when they first get here, that's when they get a birth certificate. And then, you know, they we it's a it's a big joke going around about they they call them January 1st, babies, because all their birthdays is on January the 1st. Like, that's what I I don't I have never seen it, like, but it's just a joke people be talking about. I don't think it's true, but it's a joke, like, but I do know that they don't be having birth certificates, like a lot of them. Not and it and not the Caribbeaners, because the Caribbeaners come over here with with birth certificates and all that stuff, it be them Africans. Like, how is it that the the motherland? This is supposed to be the motherland. The motherland, rich, rich in resources, rich in everything. And it and it look like this, and it's like that. They don't have no infrastructure, they don't even have a census. They just started a census in what 1950 or something like that. We had censuses in in 1500, like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I I once again, disclaimer, I don't we don't have any issues with with Africans or Caribbeaners. We we don't we just have to understand that you know y'all need to stop cosplaying us for real.

Part One Wrap And Next Steps

SPEAKER_04 1:31:35

It was a good build. And definitely, sis. I I definitely enjoy your your uh scholarship. See, the brother dropped out, he must his phone must have gone dead or something like that. But I appreciate you coming on sharing a little bit more of your knowledge and a little bit more of you know what you know and what you have learned, like because you know, we need more people to to to bring the awareness to what's going on and what has been going on with our people, you know. So is anything else you want to say before we go ahead and cut out, Sus?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:07

Yeah, um so like I am driving, but I mean, if you don't mind, like just one day in the future have a song because like it's a lot of scriptures that we can show you describing like the land, the animals, even going more into that whole Tyree situation with the world trade to show you, like we can compare and show you Africa's history versus America's history in terms of like the promised land and like the descriptions that I gave y'all about the Jordan being well watered and these places being well watered. If you go look up like those places in the Middle East and Africa, they have their water scarce. The most water scarce places in the world are North Africa and the Middle East, the places that they say are supposed to be the promised land, they don't feed the description at all. I can we can show you where corn originated in America, like we can show you scripturally, you know what I'm saying, the trees and all this stuff, the animals were Americanized animals from the lions, from the bears, all these things, like the scriptures, they were American animals. Um so just like in the future, one day, if you wanted ever like you know, chop that up. I don't know, I think his phone did go out of some he probably come back in, but there you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:19

Yeah, but yeah, definitely. So this is part one of our series, the indigenous series, speak your truth podcast with the indigenous series part one, and uh yeah, I I definitely gotta have what did I miss?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:47

I got knocked out.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:53

I think your mic with mute.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:06

Oh man. I don't know how that be happening, right? Like it just be be it just be muting by itself for some odd reason. But nah, we we was we was just she was I was just getting the we was just getting the last little thoughts off and you know before we cut and run. You got anything you want to say, Moray, you know, before we before we let the people, you know, not see my face anymore, my ugly face.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:32

Nah, nah, I appreciate you inviting us, and uh hopefully we can do this again, chop it up again to get a little bit more deep to what we did this this day. It's just and um I invite I appreciate uh sister false for coming on as well, Sister Latoya G.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:51

Toya, I'm gonna just say Toya, because I I for some odd reason I cannot roll my R. I don't I don't know, but for some odd reason this is messing up. But I sister Latoya G, Toya G, I appreciate you, brother Brother Moray Yako. This is your boy Abia, it's the truth podcast, and this is the indigenous, the indigenous edition series, first one, chapter one, episode one, whatever you want to call it. This is the first one. Y'all go get many more, and we go give y'all these jewels. Y'all go get them. And if you don't like it, then you know, try to get in the comments and refute. But make sure you bring your receipts. If you want to come up, get in the comments. We'll get you up on the next one, and you can get up here and try to refute what we're saying. It, you know, we ain't gonna debate, but it because it really ain't you can't really debate with truth and facts, but just bring your receipts if you you know pay Africans, Africans, whoever bring your receipts, come on up, and let's talk about this. Let's have a conversation. We love y'all, peace.