Episode 36 - Dr David Morales

Join Megan Del Corral and her co-hosts as they chat with Dr. David Morales about his life, career, and personal stories. From his Bolivian roots and medical journey to fun family anecdotes and future plans, this episode offers a mix of inspiration, humor, and insights into leadership and kindness.

Chapters

00:00 Celebrating Life: A Birthday Fiesta
03:09 Cultural Roots: Family Background and Heritage
05:49 Education Journey: From High School to Medical School
08:21 Finding Passion: The Path to Surgery
11:13 The Art of Surgery: Creativity and Technique
13:59 Leadership in Medicine: Kindness and Growth
16:29 Personal Insights: Balancing Professional and Personal Life
18:49 The Privilege of Medicine: A Reflection on Impact
21:13 Dreams and Aspirations: Beyond the Operating Room
25:34 The Joy of Learning and Personal Growth
26:38 Community Connections and Humorous Encounters
28:10 Love and Relationships: Insights from Marriage
29:56 Inspiration and Role Models
32:23 Navigating Professional Challenges and Experiences
37:02 Preparing for Public Speaking and Events
45:33 Fun and Lighthearted Moments in Life

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Beyond the White Coat Podcast, where we break down myths in health, beauty, and wellness so you can look, feel, and perform your best. We're your hosts, Sharia Mamm and Megan Del Corral, here to bring you real talk beyond the medical titles. Before we dive in, quick disclaimer. The views and opinions shared in this podcast are for entertainment purposes only. This is not medical advice and does not reflect the host's roles or responsibilities at Vital Medical or Hue Aesthetics. Now let's get into it. I know finally, we've had some wonky schedules. Welcome back to another episode of Beyond the White Coat Podcast. I'm I'm your host, Megan Del Corral, here with my co-host, Charia Mam, and the myth, the man, the legend, the one and only yes, Dr. David Morales, my husband. Welcome.

SPEAKER_06 0:52

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Keep the mic pretty close. There you go. All right. Is it all?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Look at the balloons.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

I know. So for everyone watching live, yeah, you can see the big balloons. And for all of us uh watching on YouTube and Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts, we had a massive birthday fiesta for this guy right here.

SPEAKER_06 1:13

Thank you to my wife for throwing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Yes. So tell us, Dave, what was the best, worst, and most surprising thing about your birthday party?

SPEAKER_06 1:22

Surprising was uh two things. One, all the balloons.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah, so he goes. He goes, Who's at the door? I go, the decorator. And he goes, We have a decorator. I go, yeah, and it's too late because she's at the front door.

SPEAKER_06 1:36

So Yes, lots of balloons. Surprise. Hold it. That was surprising.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

But you would like it. It was a good surprise.

SPEAKER_06 1:43

It was a good surprise. Other surprise is uh the tarot card reader slash. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

The second party I've had now with a tarot card reader, and people love it, right, Chash? Yes, and we found one.

unknown 1:57

Yes, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 1:58

We had one for the party, and it was people were lined up waiting. Yes. We she had to leave before everybody could get their tarot card. Yeah. She took her time though.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Yes. Another party. Yes. For a tarot card reading.

SPEAKER_06 2:11

Slash telling your future slash kind of therapy. Therapy.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

I mean she definitely for a husband. She could have found one in my reading.

SPEAKER_06 2:20

She didn't? No.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

She's like, I don't see nothing.

SPEAKER_06 2:23

I will have to say, let's just get the get the cheesy part out. She did say that I had, which, you know, my wife's showing me to the party, but she's like, oh, look at this card. And it was the heart and the soul of my soul mate.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

So And what was the worst thing?

SPEAKER_06 2:37

The worst. I know what my worst thing is. We ran out of papy's because they drained a whole bottle in like 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

No, for me it was our air conditioning was not up to par. Because usually this house is like it's now, which is freezing cold. It was so hot.

SPEAKER_06 2:52

I was looking at me.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

She was burning.

SPEAKER_06 2:55

Yeah, she was burning up.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

Oh my gosh. Well, David, thank you for taking the time out of your very busy schedule. So let's go back. So David is from Baltimore, Maryland, born and raised. Both of your parents are from your mom's from Cuchabanga.

SPEAKER_06 3:12

No, my dad is from Cochabanga, Bolivia. And my mom is, she was actually born in the jungle.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Like uh Chacha was born in the jungle.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

She was born in the jungle in a village with no electricity, no cars, uh, but then grew up most of her life in Santa Cruz. So she was a cruceña.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

From Bolivia.

SPEAKER_06 3:31

From Bolivia.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

Yes. And they came here when your dad went to Johns Hopkins to study, correct?

SPEAKER_06 3:39

So my dad had studied already in uh I should say Argentina. He was actually there during Avita and was one of the students who was like put a hood over him and taken and interrogated. Nothing bad happened to him, thank God. And then he met my mom. He was a general surgeon, and he met my mom because he took out my grandmother's appendix.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Oh, I didn't do that, your Abu.

SPEAKER_06 4:06

Yes, my Abu's appendix. And then he saw my mom, and then back then they actually had formal courting. So he couldn't ask my mom out directly. He would ask her parents and they would allow him to come on Saturday. However, when you came on Saturday, there could be a bunch of people there, meaning suitors. There could be two to four people, right? And then they would all sit in a living room and they would all talk. That would go, and at one point, if my mom said well, what would happen is then the suitor would ask if he could have a Sunday meeting. And Sunday meetings were private. Sunday meetings was j well, not private, but just him. And then then it's my parent her my grandparents or one of them, at least one other family member, my mom, and them sitting in the salon. And and then that was that could go on for a while. And then he could ask her out on a date. That was the third level. At that time, one of the reasons the men had to be so much older than the young lady is because if you asked her out, anyone in the family could go. And at least one person had to go. So if you went to dinner, you're at least taking two people, but if everyone just decided, hey, we all going, then you're taking six people to dinner.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

You have to pay for all of them.

SPEAKER_06 5:30

So that went on. And then they eventually uh got married.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Yes, and came here.

SPEAKER_06 5:35

And here I am.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

And David is the youngest, and obviously from a very Hispanic family, and he has three older sisters, which is why he's such a good husband. Because he is, I will say, he is the best with like Chacho and I were talking before that we turned the mics on with like girl talk, you know. He has no problems being like, okay, let's what's the tea? What's going on? Yes. You got a facial at Hue Aesthetics this weekend. You have no problems with any of that, which is nice.

SPEAKER_06 6:03

I like my spa days.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Yes, yes, for sure. Okay, and then you went to Gilmore Academy, which is an all-boys school, which is so cute.

SPEAKER_06 6:12

Yes. I went to yeah, this little Black Gilman, which is a well-known private school in Baltimore. Great school.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

Tell the story about how your mom coerced Duke University to get you as a student.

SPEAKER_06 6:27

So, not that I agree with all this, but in my family, my family, my sisters, who were all very brilliant, went to uh Notre Dame Prep, uh, which was, and at that time was run by the nuns, and they all went to school locally. And they John Hopkins, I mean or yeah, well, they went to, yeah, that's a whole different story. I won't get into that. But either way, I was the first one that was going to apply outside of Baltimore. And my parents weren't as familiar with the whole application since they never really went through it too much with my sisters. And so what ended up happening is I at that time at Gilman, if you did really well, uh, we had a relationship with Princeton. A lot of people would go to Princeton. However, and so I always thought that's where I wanted to go. And my college counselor knew I wanted to be a doctor, and at that time Duke was very popular and said, You should think about Duke because it's a great medical school and great everything else. And and you could, you know, I would consider that. I didn't want to consider it, and so Mr. Christian then called my mom, and my mom and said, you know, if your son wants to be a doctor, I would really consider thinking about Duke. And so my mom said, Well, you know, my parents were old school, so if a teacher calls and says, you know, that's what you're gonna do. This is what you should do, then my mom decided, okay, we're gonna go visit Duke. So this is the first college like visit my mom did. My dad didn't go because my dad was always working, and so she took me down to Duke, and I went with another friend of mine. She took two of us, and we went down there and uh No appointment. No appointment. And uh she just walked into the missions and said, My son's considering to go to Duke. At which point I was like, Mom, she's like, and uh he would like an interview right now.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

I could just see this. Is she was the one thing about David's mom is she was so charming. Like just so hello, my I could see here, I could hear her saying it. My name is Lourdes Morales. This is my son David. He's considering going here. I'd like for him to have an interview. And people being there like, what? Does he have an appointment? Who is this?

SPEAKER_06 8:42

So they informed her I had no appointment and that I hadn't even applied, and on and on. And uh but one way or the other, I got an interview that day.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

I always say, I think they finally were like, find the janitor real quick. We just need this lady to leave. Someone needs to talk to this kid to make her leave.

SPEAKER_06 9:01

I got an interview. I don't know how, but I did. I interviewed, I loved it. Loved the two days we spent down there. Uh applied early, got in, and that's where I went. Yes. So and then that's how I got to do. You know, I always say every important decision is never a decision.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Like it's just this because what else would you do?

SPEAKER_06 9:22

Like, I don't remember a time of like if you're thinking about like who am I gonna spend the rest of my life with and you're making pluses or minuses, that ain't the person, right? Like it you don't see another path. There is no other path. For really big decisions, I believe in that. And so I don't remember when, but I always thought I was gonna be a surgeon, and I always wanted to uh work with kids. So those two things always were true, and so yeah, so and but during college, I thought I wanted to do pediatric neurosurgery and a fascinating field. I was a philosophy major, I was uh it ended up, they used to have this thing, this program in which you could create your own major, and I was a neuroscience major, but a year and a half into it, they got rid of that program. And so the way it ended up, I actually ended up having three majors. So I was a philosophy major, a psychology major, and a biology major. And so yep, so and I did research at Duke, which I loved on phantom limb pain. I really thought I was going to do neurosurgery, and I thought it was fascinating. I still think it's such an intellectual and fascinating field, but I at the technical aspect, it didn't draw me in when I finally got to med school, and for someone like me who's a little bit goal-oriented, I had spent my whole four years at Duke being like nurse surgeon, nurseurge, nurse surgeon, nurse surgeon. I got to med school, nurse surgeon, nurse surgeon, and then I was like, hmm, that doesn't float my boat. I'm not as passionate as I would think about nurse surgery. And because of that, I went into a free fall. I was like, what am I gonna do? So where I went to med school at the time, the tests were optional and there was no grades. So uh that was convenient. So uh small class. Yeah, it was small class, class of a hundred. My mom, so I ended up going to, as my mom would say, because you know she has Spanish, a very heavy accent, she would say jail.

SPEAKER_07 11:25

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_06 11:26

So I actually went to Yale, but most of her friends thought I was in jail for four years in Connecticut and never really, especially the American friends, understood why I was proud of me being in jail for four years. But yes, I was at jail. And yeah, so it ended up that I just spent the next, I remember there was two months in which I barely went to class, and I just went from OR to OR trying to figure out what type of surgery. And uh I ended up seeing someone doing a pediatric heart surgery.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Was it a switch? What was the operation?

SPEAKER_06 12:00

Actually, it was an extremely rare operation that now I've done maybe five times in 20 years.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

What was that?

SPEAKER_06 12:08

It was uh maybe more six times. A Takauchi. I knew that's what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Takaoochie, I always like that word. So it's a very rare and that's after Dr. Takauchi.

SPEAKER_06 12:17

Yeah, and it's a very rare technique. It's a very rare thing that you do it for, and to uh to use that technique, you usually do not have to use that technique. But anyway, I saw that, I thought it was the coolest thing in the world, and after that I was sold.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

So that's how did you get an operation named after you? What's the process?

SPEAKER_06 12:36

I don't know. I don't really know.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Like how did Norwood become the Norwood? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:42

Uh I don't know. I don't know. And sometimes the person whose name is attached to an operation isn't actually the first person who did the operation. So we can there's no moralis. There is no moralis operation.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Would you like if someone was like, I'd like to name this after you, would you accept it?

SPEAKER_06 13:00

I don't know. That's a lot. I think I think uh yeah, I don't know. I mean, I always imagine anything that I've done has been done in pieces before. Uh, but what I do love about what I do is that you know, you have to be creative and you're doing things different things every day. Like I very rarely do the same operation, uh, especially now in my practice, you know, in the same month. So it's uh it's great.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

And you think that's because you're seeing more complex or just your technique has evolved, or why do you think because there are some repetition, like there is repetitions?

SPEAKER_06 13:39

I mean, as you as you get older and more senior, and our practice gets more referrals, then you start to do some more rare operations. And then even if up like you could say one of the operations I love to do now is called a biventricular repair, but there's thousands of ways to do that and different things that so yep. So but I do like the fact that you have to be creative while you're operating.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

But yeah, it's definitely not boring.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

It's definitely not boring, and I and you know, what I do definitely is a privilege.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

And I think one thing, I mean, obviously being married to is different, but one thing people don't appreciate about you is as I mean, as skillful as you are in the operating room and technically and as a a world-class surgeon, and I can say that because again, I'm your wife, I'm very biased here, is really your leadership skills. Like I always I think of you, you're like a little voice in my head all day long as I'm navigating my business and my practice and my relationships with my staff and with my uh partners and whatnot. I mean, you are your very sound. David's whole mantra in life, if anyone who knows him, is to live in kindness, what he always says. Where do you think that evolved? Because I can imagine probably for the first part of your career you were a little bit more bullish and a little bit more you had something to prove, where now I feel like, you know, you are the you are the proof.

SPEAKER_06 15:04

Yeah, I um well leadership is you know something you continue to have to do and learn and and try to improve. So you know, no one yeah, that's just it's a constant thing like exercise, right? You have to c constantly be thinking about and trying to improve yourself. So in terms of kindness, you know, you're correct. I mean, you know, kind of in the era that I grew up, and meaning like how I grew up in m in surgery, you know, being aggressive and moving forward, and you know, not a lot of people end up doing congenital heart surgery. So it is it is a a trek. But you're correct. I mean, to be honest, I think a lot of sometimes aggression and stuff is to is to hide insecurities, right? You know, anytime now when people are aggressive towards me, I I just remember that they're probably just insecure about what's going on. And as you become, I mean, you know, older and more secure in who you are and what you can do and what you can't do, because there are things you can't do, you know, you become more comfortable. And so because of that, you know, you're not aggressive. And then the kindness thing is, you know, I think that my children are healthy, I have my soulmate, I I uh I have a job that I absolutely love. You know, if I'm not gonna be kind, who's gonna be kind? So I mean, and and I get it, but like I hear all the time how like I'm serious. And I say people, yeah, they're like I'm scared of him and I'm like, if you tell if you tell people like I mean, just tell people what I do for a job, they're thinking I'm gonna be serious or something, which is outside of the hospital. I really don't I mean, when people ask, um many different jobs, I used to be. Or if they really push me, I'll say I'm a doctor. But like I don't really like to talk about that because outside I'm a true Gemini, right? I like and one of the ways I definitely is I show up to parties in onesies. Yes. So when I show up in a onesie, no one takes me seriously, which is what I love.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

I would say, Chacha, tell everyone about the first time you met David and you were here for dinner. He had on pajamas with our dog's faces on them. It just kind of no, yeah. The hospital has like for Christmas, they have a you know, holiday party or whatever, and everyone's there in like tuxes and suits, and David's always like, I want a suit that lights up with like Christmas trees on it, or you know, just like something really, really ridiculous. So we always try to to live it up. And then this year you even dressed up as the Easter bunny with like full hat on, full gear, went around the hospital creeting people.

SPEAKER_06 17:53

So yeah, I guess people don't realize that I I really like to be silly and I like to, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

I would say David wants every day to be Christmas morning, like he lives for life for $500 a piece. We can have one person to his lab and one on his right.

SPEAKER_06 18:10

I'm denying it. Yeah, I'm denying. But definitely come to the summit, it's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Yes, we had a planning meeting before this with our crew, which I mean, the girls are just killing it, I have to say. Our girls are so they are all so talented, they're so organized. I would say they're like little ninjas. Like we give them a task and boom, it's done. Erin, shout out to Erin, put together like our marketing material. I mean, beautiful. It is so I shared it with like five people already because I'm like, look at this. Like, I didn't know I looked like that. You know, she did such an awesome job. So we are very excited. We will have uh tickets on sale, hopefully, by Monday. So, and we'll have more information on our social media. So that's a little side note.

SPEAKER_06 18:56

Other than like just pure technical talent. Yes. Active learner. So I think to do what we do well, you have to be an active learner. You want to learn, you want to know why, you have to keep asking and keep thinking how you can do things better. So I think that's very important. I want someone I would I would want someone who understands that what we do is a privilege. And, you know, sometimes on the long days you you know, multiple long days, you can start to forget that. But what we do is really a privilege. And when you think about that, you know, to to Here, give me your phone.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

I'll turn it on.

SPEAKER_06 19:36

I'm really good with my phone.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

No, everyone, David is not good at remembering to wear shoes to work, nor putting his phone on silent or turning the ringer on when it needs to be on.

SPEAKER_06 19:48

Yes, yes. Everyone knows uh they can't get me to tell Megan.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:55

But you know, what we do is really a privilege. And so if you remember that you know, when things get tough or when you're really tired or when things seem not fair, you know, it is a privilege what we do. You know, no one no family forgets the day their baby has heart surgery. And so I use the word and people sometimes find a little off, but it's a very intimate time for a family. They are very vulnerable, they're very exposed. And the fact that you can be part of that and help them through that is a privilege. And so I think that that really has to be your guiding light.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

I agree with that. That's very true. Yes. Oh my god, this would be my dream come true. And we I want to make David famous. Ooh.

SPEAKER_06 20:45

Well, it'd have to be someone very tall.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

He's sitting down. David is not vertically blessed.

SPEAKER_06 20:51

Um I'm only 6'1.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

6'1.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Nah, I am not vertically tall. But let me see, who would play me? I know.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

I'm trying to think of who would be like intellect. I mean, from an aesthetic standpoint, I always think Patrick Dempsey, but I don't think he would capture your character.

SPEAKER_06 21:08

I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't know. That's a hard question.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Like I'm trying to think who would really do a good job with character development. I know you're gonna like not like this answer, but Bradley Cooper in my school.

SPEAKER_05 21:22

The reason, first of all, my eyes brown, his eyes brown.

SPEAKER_07 21:28

But he's very good at getting into character. Publicly, you're gonna say, like, that is her, like, let's just be clear. Oh, Jake Dylan Hall, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_06 21:37

Just be clear. Every movie that Bradley Cooper's on is is one of her favorite movies.

SPEAKER_05 21:42

It has nothing to do with him, though. She's assured me that it has nothing to do with Bradley Cooper himself. It's just that every movie that he's in is just an American.

SPEAKER_06 21:54

It's just a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Well, think about Maestro and how great he was with Lenny Bernstein. So I think. Like he would really capture your essence.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

She didn't ask you who you wanted to play me so that you could play his wife.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah, I think Jake Dylan Hall, that's another good one. Who would you want to play me in your movie? Because obviously I would have to be there.

SPEAKER_06 22:13

Oh, who would I want you? There you go, David. Well, there's no one as beautiful as you. I don't know. Who would play? So they would have to be athletic. Uh they would have to, not that they would have to be, but they have to be a little bit, not a little bit long. OCD. Put together, let me think. I mean, I also I would pick someone Spanish-ish. So a long time ago, not presently, but like Eva Mendez, maybe when uh she did the other guy, I could see maybe J Lo back in the day. No.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

No. Back in the day. Although I just saw, we just saw it. Yeah, we just saw it. And she looks awesome.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

She looks awesome.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

I mean, cheers to you, Jennifer Lopez. You are killing it.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

She's at least in her 50s.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

I want her facial plastic surgeon.

SPEAKER_06 23:04

All right, no. Plastic surgery for you.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_06 23:10

Plastic surgery.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Eventually I'm gonna need a bluff. Eventually I'm gonna need a bluff.

SPEAKER_06 23:15

I love your face the way it looks like.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

This is always an argument between the two of us.

SPEAKER_06 23:20

And I have nothing against people have plastic surgery, and I think it's great.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

You said eventually you'll let me do it. Eventually I'll need a facelift.

SPEAKER_06 23:28

Yeah, I don't know. But it'll be a long time. I think your face looks beautiful. And I don't want anyone to mess it up.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:35

Me too.

unknown 23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:36

I'm part of that. I think she looks great.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Well, you always it's more from I think a fear base, because you're always like, what if they mess up your face, right? Like it's your face.

SPEAKER_06 23:44

No, I I like the way your face looks.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

But it could look so much better. No, that's all right. We're digressing.

SPEAKER_06 23:52

Let's go. Yeah, digress.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Touch it, hit him up. I know I was gonna say the one thing you didn't try to do.

SPEAKER_06 23:58

I would love to do so many things.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

David loves so many things. I would love to learn. No, he's very afraid of heights. I would. He's very afraid of heights.

SPEAKER_06 24:06

No, she wants to do parachuting or whatever it is. I I'm not into that. I mean, there are so many things that I would love to do. I I find so the reason I love parties and like going out is I love to meet people and find out what they do. We were just at Formula One and we met some friends, and one guy created a company which looked at houses from the technology, like the aerial view of the aerial view from a satellite to like to then sell to people who were selling houses. And like it was so fascinating. He was a computer major, he went to Stanford for business school. Super nice guy. Super nice guy. But I I love all of that. So if you if like and I'm not saying I would be good at it, but if you said there was like I've thought about this, like if there was what what would you love to be really good at uh if you weren't gonna be a surgeon? I would love to be an actor. And it's not because of the fame.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 25:05

You definitely don't want the fame. You would just like because you would love to get into character.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

You like to read scripts, you like to do all that, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:14

Like if you're if you're gonna be a cowboy, you really have to learn about a cowboy. If you're gonna be a lawyer, you have to learn, you know, obviously not to the depth of a real lawyer, but about law, or if you're playing some historical part, like they give you all that information, and for that one, you know, five months or a year, you learn so much about that period of history. Like, I just love like I always say, when I retire, I'm going back to college and I'm gonna like take courses.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

I could be happy, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:50

I could do that. I could be a wedding crasher. I definitely could be a wedding crasher.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

At Libby, my employee's wedding.

SPEAKER_06 25:56

That's I often say that. Like, if I go to a wedding, that like he'll walk around and tell people I was like, and then I ask, like, oh, how do you hear? I'll be saying, Oh, I'm just crashing the wedding.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:06

And then I know, really. I'm like, no, literally, I'm just crashing the wedding. But boo.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

It's my employee's wedding. He went around telling people that we were wedding crashers. And I was like, nope, that's not a thing. Definitely not, definitely invited. The invite.

SPEAKER_06 26:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Oh my god, that's hilarious. Oh my gosh, it's a terrible story. So I might have told this on the podcast before, but so we live in a one street of 35 homes, and so everyone, especially at the beginning, while everyone was building, you were identified by your lot. Like, oh, I'm lot two, I'm lot seven, whatever. And we every year in May, we have an annual neighborhood ever. Yes. We literally do. And so we go to our first block party, and when you walk in, they had little tags, and you could put what lot number you were, that way people could identify you. Because our home was being built. And I had bought food for the block party, so it was in the car, right? So David goes in ahead of me, I'm getting the food out, and he again, he loves people. So he just starts mingling, introducing himself, going around talking. So I am doing the same, obviously, like more talking to the women, introducing myself. So we didn't see each other for like a good two hours. And then I catch wind that people are talking about a reality TV show and that someone's building a house on a reality TV show. David had been going around telling all of our neighbors that he was on a reality dating show where you build a home with someone, you don't meet them until the house is done. And he's asking them if anyone has seen someone with the same lot number. And I was like, these are the first time these people are meeting us. Now they think we're pathological liars. It was so embarrassing. I was so upset. I was so angry.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

It was very funny. It was fun. So have you seen lot, what's her lot?

SPEAKER_00 27:54

17.

SPEAKER_06 27:55

Have you seen who's wearing lot 17? Like, I haven't met her. Is she good looking? Do I want to get out of here? And people are like, what? What are you talking about? Yes, it was it was fun.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

David, what do you like most about being married to me?

SPEAKER_06 28:11

Wow. Wow. Loaded questions. I mean, I'm the it's only two hours, right? I mean, there's many things. There's many things I love to say. No, I've definitely answered that. One, a hundred percent. I love your effort and everything you do. Whether it's loving. I meant like loving me, not like intimacy. Yeah. Your friends, running, whatever you do. You know, I always say that you are born everyone is born uh with a deck of cards. Like you have innate skills and everything, and the only thing that you really control is your effort, right? And so you maximize your effort and everything you do, and I love that. And that to me is extremely attractive. Uh, because I I just love that mantra. So that's one of the things I'm a grinder. Your grinder.

SPEAKER_05 29:07

I love that cha cha. Cha cha, cha cha.

SPEAKER_06 29:11

You know what I love about you. I mean, just the name.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

The name brings it. Like when you walk into a room, cha cha, you fill the room.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Mike Mercer is making me choose between people. What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:24

No. No.

SPEAKER_06 29:25

No. No. Michael. I'm calling him Eminem for now on. But uh, you fill a room, and that that's it's like a presence. And that's that's great because it it elevates people around you. So I I do believe that. And uh that's where I got my facial, and that's why it was glowing. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

You were definitely your skin always looks so good as soon as you get a hyperfacial.

SPEAKER_06 29:50

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Who's been your biggest allies? One more, then you can go. Who's been your biggest source of inspiration in your life? Well, I mean, I would say You can have one professional, one personal.

SPEAKER_06 30:00

Well, kind of both would be my father, who was uh an ultimate grinder. I think he was in practice for 40 years, an OBGYN, and never had a partner. I I think he went like 12 years with taking call every day. I didn't realize when I was growing up, but we never lived like more than we never went places for maybe a decade where we weren't at least three hours from Baltimore because his big mantra was that if he saw you, he would deliver you, which is almost unheard of.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Do you know how many babies in total he delivered?

SPEAKER_06 30:32

Uh I was recently seeing that it was over four or five thousand babies. Wow. And he had he he had delivered at the very end of his career, he had delivered someone and then he delivered their baby, and then I think delivered their baby. So it was like almost fifty years.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Oh wow. How many babies have you delivered?

SPEAKER_06 30:54

Not a lot.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

So let's talk about David and his GYN rotation in college.

SPEAKER_06 30:58

No, no, no, let's not talk about that. Because he didn't he tried not to do it. I tried to get out of it. It's not as I am not, that is not my thing. I think I have so much respect for OGYNs. And it's not the it's not the, you know, it's the delivery that I really find difficult. But I've delivered a lot of babies because I ended up when I did my primary care, I went to a smaller place, and that primary care person that I did my rotation, it was away rotation for three months. It was in Harris, Harrisburg, Virginia. And that gentleman uh did orthopedics, he set bones, but he also delivered babies.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

That's a weird combination.

SPEAKER_06 31:43

He did everything. I mean, he was truly a primary care and he was very good, and his patients loved him, and but he would deliver babies all the time. And and it was only, you know, I was in med school like 10 years ago. Oh couple day a few decades ago. Anyway, so and but I always remember there were there is uh a whole sect, you know, the Mennonites lived in that area, and these women would come in, deliver a baby, no pain medicine, and basically with a smile on their face. It was an amazing thing to see, but uh yes, delivering babies is not my forte by any stretch of the imagination.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Tasha, you have a question.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

This is the love and you can see this on Spotify and our platforms. Okay, so you're gonna point. Who said I love you first?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Oh, I did. I did.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Okay. Who is more stubborn? Both of you guys? Yeah. Who apologizes first?

SPEAKER_00 32:39

He does. He always says his hey, what he always says is listen, neither one of us are going anywhere. We're not getting divorced. We can keep fighting and like yell and whatever, but we or we could just accept it and move on, is what he always tells me.

SPEAKER_05 32:55

No, no, it doesn't matter. She can say, I actually don't start getting ready till she says, I'm ready, because that's at least another half an hour. I can get ready very quick. I am extremely efficient at getting ready. I am not. I am not.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Okay. Who always has to be right?

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Neither one of us.

SPEAKER_06 33:12

Neither one of us.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

About the same.

SPEAKER_06 33:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Who's a better driver?

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Me. He is the worst. Actually, I think I have more, but he's a better dri. I mean, I'm a better driver than any other my god. This one. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 33:28

Oh, you got it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Oh my goodness. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

David. My god. Like literally the opening credits are on. And he's asleep. Like mouth open, snoring asleep.

unknown 33:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Um, who is the CEO of the household?

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Me.

SPEAKER_04 33:46

CEO, CFO, C O O. I just I just live here.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

Let's dig into some financial stuff. Who is more likely to make a big purchase without to make any purchase, David isn't making it?

SPEAKER_05 34:00

I don't buy anything. I'm if you look at exactly what I spend, I literally spent maybe.

SPEAKER_06 34:06

So hold it. This is what I spend. I spend a gallon of gas every week and a half, and I spend three dollars and nine cents on a coffee and a coffee every morning. That is all I spend.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Because he doesn't pay any bills. I pay all the bills.

SPEAKER_06 34:20

I don't pay anything. And I don't pay.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

Everything. I mean, everything. He buys everything.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Is there something that you want that she hasn't let's be clear?

SPEAKER_05 34:29

He is spoiled. I I you know, everyone says, Oh, you should take care. But you know, many people couldn't do that.

SPEAKER_06 34:37

And he gives up complete control. Complete control.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:40

She knows all my finances.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Even with her summit. I'm like, Megan, you handle all the time.

SPEAKER_06 34:44

She knows all the finances. I mean, between her and my assistant Mindy, I mean, if they got together.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

We could leave David out on the call.

SPEAKER_05 34:53

What where is all my bank accounts? What happened to all my credit cards?

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Alright, who's the angry one? It's angry.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

If it was somebody, it'd probably be me. Yeah. Yeah, I can get along. But we both are metabolically efficient.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Okay, now who's making the diagnosis?

SPEAKER_06 35:10

Like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Like, if somebody's sick, who's taking care of this one over here?

SPEAKER_00 35:16

He has like the sniffles and like the whole world is coming down. I'm actually like vomiting sick, and he's like, What's for dinner?

SPEAKER_05 35:24

It is true. She she is large in charge.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

And yeah, he always goes, I I can't work out. And then I'm like, okay, fine, I don't really care. And I have like 105 fever and I'm out there running.

SPEAKER_06 35:35

Yeah, but that that's another that's a problem.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

I'd actually like to challenge I'd like to actually bring this to life. Who David?

SPEAKER_06 35:42

I would.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

Yeah, he's a he's a bigger nerd.

SPEAKER_06 35:45

I'm a nerd. As she says, I'm a nerd at heart. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

Who is more likely to turn a casual conversation into not me.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Yeah, probably me. I'm I try not to. Like like David, I try to I always tell him like, don't tell people what to do, don't tell people. But it naturally comes in the conversation. Because I mean, hers is a longevity and and like I just can't help myself because people are talking and I'm like, oh God.

SPEAKER_06 36:07

And I never say plumber. Yeah. I've done everything. Yeah. Me.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

My gosh. Ever. It's not gossip. Do you ever hear me gossip? I can hold a secret. This is I am a vault.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

No, you would want to tell me. You would be like, oh my god, I have to tell you, but you can't tell anyone. I am like I am a vault. I can hold a secret.

SPEAKER_06 36:35

Okay. That that that we'll separate on. But that besides that, we were all the same.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Yeah.

unknown 36:43

Good.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Did you have fun, David? Anything you want to tell our audience?

SPEAKER_05 36:48

Besides. Come to our summit. 100% come to the summit.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Are you gonna come to the summit? Are you gonna take the day off?

SPEAKER_06 36:55

I am taking that whole time off.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

The Friday, Saturday.

SPEAKER_06 36:58

It's Friday, Saturday. Yes. 100%. I'll be at the summit. I guess. Let me ask you guys some questions.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Yeah, go for it. We have time. It's all yours.

SPEAKER_06 37:08

So who will be most who will be most nervous about the summit?

unknown 37:12

I am.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Oh, I think I will be too. David knows how I am and I'm nervous. I've become a little bit of an anxious B-I-T-C-H. No one's no one's gonna quiz you at the end. I learned that. So I will say, like, that's one thing. So when I first was like giving talks with Vince, I was always worried about being more clinical and more and then you realize people it's so different from your meetings. People want the information they want to be digestible, right? Like David can comment. I actually think the talk I just gave in Florida was one of my better ones. And it there was no I did present one paper, surveillance study, to talk about the problems with rogue GLP ones from online sources, but that was to prove a point, right? But other than that, I I try to stay more like I don't know, global. Or what would you say?

SPEAKER_06 37:58

I mean, they've studied talks.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 38:01

So let's be clear. A few people remember a lot about talks. Think about all your talks. So, you know, you should have a message and you should just hammer that one. Like whatever you think is most important, you know, you need to really emphasize. I think one issue is when people get into too many details, people are never gonna remember. Like when I like different, but like when my fellows are giving clinical talks and they have a slide that says 32.5% of people, like no, no one's around 0.5%. That's like is around 30%. People will remember around 30%. Like you have to remember, people are gonna remember very little. Like, look at people, they're on their phones. So another thing is like say things so love, hated, never ignored is about a talk, right? You want people paying attention, so you know, you have to incite them to want to pay attention, whether, right? So I think those are all important things to talk to. Okay, who is who is more likely to go over time on their talk?

SPEAKER_00 39:04

Me. Well, what do you think? David's given me has heard me talk many times.

SPEAKER_06 39:08

No, I love how you talk. Uh, you know, it's very funny. Megan gets nervous, believe it or not. So Megan has a little social anxiety, which no one ever gets, and I don't either, but it is a thing. And she gets a little nervous right before she talks. But the minute she starts, you can see it. Then she does not think about anything because she's getting into her talk.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

It's like old school. I just like black out, and the whole thing just happens.

SPEAKER_06 39:33

She uses her hands, she walks around the stage, she's she's great at speaking, but it it has to start. Once the ball starts rolling, it it gets going.

SPEAKER_07 39:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 39:44

Who is most likely to uh spill the coffee right before they go up to talk? Yeah, we're gonna have a shot of what?

SPEAKER_00 39:54

Like to kill it. Yeah, we're gonna have like a little back bar just to keep everyone going, flowing. Right. Remember that really hot event we did outside? That's when I was like, we're friends. We got this.

SPEAKER_06 40:06

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

You just want something to calm the nerves. It is helpful. Oh, yeah, we'll have to pick those. We have to do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:11

What would be my walkout song? Ooh. People have talked about that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

I mean, I would think Rufus do soul on my knees.

SPEAKER_06 40:22

No, that would do something. I know, but I would do something more like uh Bruno Mars. A Bruno Mars. A Bruno Mars. That's what I got today. That's one of my birthday gifts. I got tickets to Bruno Mars. Is the best gift ever met. One time she gave me a monopoly set, and each of the things is like places that we've gone and things that we've done together. Yeah, she is an unbelievable gift giver.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

It is a special skill set.

SPEAKER_06 40:52

And she can do something that I definitely cannot do. I once I buy a gift, so I love buying gifts. I love, love, love buying gifts. And when once I buy a gift, though, I cannot keep the gift.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

Yeah, I've had these Bruno Mart tickets for like six months.

SPEAKER_06 41:07

If I buy a gift, I it it has to be within 48 hours because I cannot stop not giving the gift.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

I know, it's what I told you. I'm definitely better. Yes, yes. I am definitely different.

SPEAKER_07 41:23

I am definitely a spiritual. But I'm so excited to give it. Like the secret's different.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Like I told him it is June 10th. I already know what I'm getting him for Christmas. Yeah, like I'm already planning it.

SPEAKER_06 41:35

Like I I literally start thinking about it, and then I get too excited. But it only benefits her because if I think about it, like if I think about our Christmas gift in late November, I'll buy it and give it to her. I was like, this is a Christmas gift. And then I used to get another gift then. And then she also knows. She's getting it also, she also knows, yeah. So we call something called Witchy Witch, which is also like her Yoda. Like her manipulation of me is so she totally tells those stories.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you want to rewind and listen to it.

SPEAKER_06 42:10

She, I mean, she knows that like if she just mentioned something offhand, like, oh, it'd be so nice to have, I don't know, that that purse.

SPEAKER_05 42:18

Like, she knows that we'll just play by like I can't not not buy the purse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

I will say, David is, yeah, no one loves me. There are two men who love me a lot in my life, my father and my husband, and that is for sure. I'm very lucky to have you, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_06 42:35

All right.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

Yeah, walkout song.

SPEAKER_06 42:36

Oh my god. I can't. It's uh I'm thinking like Bruno Mars Finesse or I also like, you know, all you know, in the OR I play rump shake or fry.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

Like, he likes like trap rap, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:49

I like all that song. I do. I I don't know which I would have to think about that because you know, I'm saying titanium. Titanium, that brings a lot of good memories, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

That might be a good one.

SPEAKER_06 43:04

That might be a good one. I think at our wedding we did We did Will You Marry Me by Bruno Mars. That was good.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

And then when the fireworks went out to Katy Perry.

SPEAKER_06 43:14

But that was because of fireworks, it wouldn't be. Roar is a good one, but I wouldn't pick that as my oh you do like that one.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

You like Katy Perry Rise. What's your walkout song? You have to pick one because Matt's gonna play it at the event. Yeah, Tupac.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Yeah, I love Tupac.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

So I'm I'm deciding. Do you know who he's what?

SPEAKER_06 43:34

Beyonce. So you're uh what is it called?

SPEAKER_01 43:36

A beehive or a I'm not a beehive, but she's got some empowering songs like yeah, girls.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:46

I like I like Rihanna.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 43:50

And I can't I say no one likes him anymore, but I like uh JT. I like JT.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

Who cares? I mean, that's so stupid. I like JT. Yeah. I like JT. I like Scrapy. He's coming. You should go touch if you like Chris Tapelin, you should go to Michael's Voice of America country concert. It's fun. We went last year. It's fine.

SPEAKER_06 44:10

Michael's Voice of America. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Yeah, I I will relink yourself.

SPEAKER_01 44:18

Lose yourself.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

That is a good I play that yeah, I play that song. At the start of every marathon, that's what I listen to. Because it has such a good beat, and I'm like, okay, this is it. Like it gets you going. It's like that first smile, you're like shaking up the nerves. Yeah. Ooh, I mean, I think it's fluctuated a lot. I would say I'm Alicia Keys' Girl is on Fire is always a good walkout song. I I also like Sing for the Moment by MM, which is it's like an Aerosmith replay. It's really good. I like that a lot too, especially the beginning is a good walkout song. Otherwise, it'd probably be something a little bit more EDM, like a remix of something like Papas. I like that.

SPEAKER_06 45:03

It's a good yeah, it's a good walkout. Yeah, I like Peppa.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

I like EDM.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

So yeah, we have to choose a We have to choose the past to you and C.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Are you gonna come on stage at all during our event? If I'm invited, we should have you we will have you um you can MC for a little bit. We'll have you introduce some people.

SPEAKER_06 45:23

I can I like that.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

You can introduce Vince, I think he'll like that. That'd be good. Well, thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for the same. I love you so much.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Fun.

SPEAKER_06 45:33

Next time I'm gonna get a list of questions.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Yes. That's good.

SPEAKER_06 45:37

So you'll come I like the rapid fire. She loves questions.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Yes. So will you come back on the podcast?

SPEAKER_05 45:42

100% we'll come back.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

I guarantee this is gonna be our most viewed podcast. So thank you. Like, subscribe, and should subscribe.

SPEAKER_05 45:51

Good. That was fun. Cheers.