B E Z Podcast
.As fate would have it, three friends, Bucky(Chris) Earl(Eric) , and Zack, reunited years after parting ways and found solace in each other's company once again. Having grown up in a tight-knit community in Texas, they had shared countless memories and adventures, but life had taken them down different paths. However, a shared struggle to cope with the challenges of adulthood sparked an idea - they would merge their passions and experiences to create a podcast, "The B E Z Podcast ," where they would offer honest and relatable discussions on navigating life's trials and tribulations, ultimately providing a sense of comfort and community to their listeners.
B E Z Podcast
E-4-Drape Part-2-Echoes of the Past: A Celebration of Memories
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This episode draws you into a journey through memory lane, blending laughter with heartwarming stories that resonate our shared human experience. We explore the vibrant threads of our past, recalling childhood adventures filled with both innocent fun and wild antics. Through this lens of nostalgia, we discuss more profound themes—loss, friendship, and the irrepressible spirit of youth that persists even in dark times.
Listeners will appreciate the authenticity of our emotions, inviting you to reflect on your own experiences framed within our discussions. Whether it’s the mischief of during carefree days, or the deeper lessons learned from loss, our conversation touches on the universal truths we all navigate in life. Each story we share serves as both entertainment and an opportunity for introspection.
We understand that life isn’t just about the happy moments; it’s about how we make sense of the challenges that shape us. Our episode is not just a reflection—it’s an invitation to remember. Remember those blazing summers, the joy of friendship, and the bittersweet moments that linger. Embrace the spirit of those times as we relive the laughter and the lessons learned along the way.
By the end, you’ll feel a sense of connection to your past and a reminder of the resilience that can be shared through our stories. Join us on this journey; we’re here to laugh, reflect, and celebrate life’s rich tapestry. Don’t forget to share your thoughts with us; we’d love to hear your stories too!
Introduction and Reflections
Speaker 1He said I lost my wife and I couldn't stop getting high and the lights caught up with me. And when she left she took the only thing that meant anything to me, and with those baby blue eyes.
Speaker 2All right Coming to you live from the old, abandoned Chillicothe Hospital, chillicothe, texas. This is the B to the E to the Z, and that is be easy. Be easy, baby. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 1Question if you can't take the truth Because I'm just a reflection of you? He said I'm just a reflection. Here we go.
Speaker 2Trying to figure out this.
Speaker 4We had a Saturday night date. We had it all set up.
Speaker 5You know we're still completely unorganized.
Speaker 2Yes, Earl, you're just going to have to like get back.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm going to have to look at it. I told you I had to draw a smiley face on it, or something.
Speaker 5We're like a bunch of cavemen in a college math, a college math class.
Speaker 2This is not I think we can get a better setup, but I mean, I feel good about it. We're just trying to figure it out, uh. So I hope we don't.
Speaker 5That's what I hope is, we don't miss some really important content that we make well, we'll still be able to listen to this, can't hear it, but time out, time out here, one of the most important things that I need to talk about real quick. Has anybody besides us right here? If y'all hadn't tried Love's Barbecue Squirrel Nuts, I'm telling you they're the bomb.
Speaker 4What do you like? You like the bacon, the cheesy, the fries. They're awesome.
Speaker 2You think?
Speaker 5nuts scares people. I'm going to have to edit that out. They do. Squirrels, don't scare me so much, earl, you've got to get closer.
Speaker 4You know nuts scares. People Might have to edit that out. They do.
Speaker 2Squirrels, don't scare me so much, earl, you got to get closer I can't hear you.
Speaker 5I'm Zach Flynn. Let's just go by our voices here, I'm Zach Flynn, so you know. Chris Levine said who he was, Eric.
Speaker 4Eric.
Speaker 5Knowles, Eric Knowles. So now you got our voices and our names. You might get our faces if we start with video.
Speaker 4Yeah, let's do it. I bet at some point we'll do a video.
Speaker 5We're going to have to have video when we do the ghost stories of the hospital. Yeah, you do need some.
Speaker 4We will get to that point you do.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're right, hey, right now we're just trying to figure out the sound part of it.
Speaker 4Some other stuff yeah. Like we're right, so of us three, I would probably be considered the outlaw, you know the rebel, the infamous, yeah, yeah, I'm more so the outlaw. So I think we're all rebels.
Speaker 5But so you know, my thing is, what I was trying to say is there's certain things that I can and cannot do, or I don't want to do, and that's just because you know I've done lots of things wrong. Yeah, Okay, so yeah, but I like to tell stories, you know. So if you start hearing me say you know something, that is instead of saying, well, I knew this one guy that one time, you know, because we don't want.
Speaker 2We're not.
Speaker 5yeah, we don't want the law to listen to this, and say oh, how heavily do you want to edit this? I don't feel like editing much at all really, because it's just not us. We'll know when we need to edit something by what we say when we say it oh, we need to mark that right now, yeah, well not maybe take out stuff that we're saying but, just cut it to where, sometimes, like with Sharon, we talked about different things, so we can say, hey, we're going to take this and move it to episode like so.
Speaker 5So I don't you know if I go to talking about my past and stupid stuff.
Speaker 2Uh well, that's what we're going to talk about. A lot of this is about our past and some of the things we dealt with just not, just, not, just not just know nothing, you know nothing.
Speaker 5That's incriminating.
Speaker 2No, it's true, this is for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 5I'm trying to make it sound like I'm a terrible person here, but that's not the truth.
Speaker 2This whole thing is for entertainment purposes. I don't even believe that dude who's entertaining?
Speaker 5Nothing we say could be true. We'll put that in the first episode.
Speaker 4In the name of entertainment, I would say it all could be fictitious.
Speaker 2That's right, yeah right you're right. This is to you to figure out.
Speaker 5I got you it's okay. So uh, but yeah, we, uh, uh, we've all gone through hard times we're still going through hard times. Uh, sometimes we like to think we're grown, but most of the time we're not.
Speaker 4Still growing, still growing. Everybody's a work in progress. If you're not growing, my mama would say.
Speaker 5I wish your progress would progress.
Speaker 2Can you hear him? Okay, still.
Speaker 5I'm going to have to say, Eric, act like that's your vape or something.
Speaker 4Yeah what you suck on it Easy killer. How worth that? Your face like you're a vape or something.
Speaker 2yeah, easy killer, but uh. So yeah, we're just, we generally just want to this for entertainment purposes and, uh, for our well-being, well-being physically, mentally. Not physically, because we're kind of just chilling, but we're kind of just chilling.
Speaker 5We're all in such good shape too. You need to be in a physical rhythm.
Speaker 3Hey, maybe this is a good start.
Speaker 4I'll tell you what. There's different kinds of shape and you need to be in a physical rhythm.
Speaker 5I do have a weights, if you want to set some weights up. No, I got a whole weight. I'm starting to raise our hand like when we're kids. You know, I don't know buzz in buzz in, please.
Speaker 2Okay, so, earl, never. He never did introduce himself, did he?
Speaker 4yeah, he ever did.
Speaker 5This time that was the first day so, mr earl, what is the craziest thing you've ever done?
Speaker 4oh, my god man there's let's talk about man. There's like a list In what way there's different.
Speaker 3What do you?
Speaker 4mean like crazy.
Speaker 5Okay, what is the craziest, coolest thing? You've ever done?
Speaker 4Something I like, went off and did Like I decided I was going to do this shit, and it pulled off right or something, or said I don't know, dude, I shoot for someday. No, I, you know what, I'm just the dude that finds my limits. Dude, I've pushed all kinds of them before and uh, no, that's how you know. They ain't all black and white dude no, I don't know, and you know, some of us live, they say more vividly than others see colors different hear things different.
Speaker 4Yeah, I have like a sixth sense in some ways and uh on all those things I've pushed a line right there man but that's part of it, that's. You know, I talk to different people doctors, psychiatrists. I talk to crackheads. Uh, you know what I mean, hey, um in a way I don't judge anybody and I'm able to co-mingle walking all crowds, Like right now.
Speaker 2I'll take it, Pull it close bro.
Speaker 5Hey brother, can I ask you something real quick? Sure, no offense. Do you remember what the question was? Do you remember the question? Where did I take it?
Speaker 4To another depth, far, far away, exactly Pull me back.
Speaker 2I need a wingman, pull me back.
Speaker 5Yeah, okay, far away. Exactly that's what I need a wingman. Pull me back, so okay. So as as kids, okay, as young in high school. What was the craziest?
Speaker 4thing you've ever done. We've ever done. I mean, oh yeah, give me a certain, maybe you're, maybe, probably just driving intoxicated.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, well those are stupid things.
Speaker 4I think I probably did some crazier things against somebody's property he probably stole a car, things like that.
Speaker 7I'm not going to talk about too much Stuff.
Speaker 4you don't want to make grandeur of.
Speaker 5I would dare to say that that was not your craziest thing you did when you were, no, not even close.
Speaker 4I don't know what you're trying to mild this down for I tell you what most of the crime that I might have committed that I would be embarrassed of would be more like vandalism kind of shit I never did none of that either. I did some vandalism shit Broke a window. And some of it I'll tell you right now there's a whole different.
Speaker 2we got several different topics we're going to hit on. One of the things we have hit on last week or last episode was last week or last episode was Chris Draper and his family. Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 5Oh, Chris, you want to throw a cold bucket of water on this show.
Speaker 4I guess, because you're right, no, no, no.
Speaker 2We're just talking about the craziest things that we've done, so that's what we're talking about. So I want to talk about Girl tell me the craziest thing that we've done. So that's what we're talking about. Okay, so I want to talk about uh, girl tell me the craziest thing, just just tell me that you remember draper. Yeah, just tell me about drape shit I don't know different things.
Speaker 4But I look back now I see it different. But uh, crazy shit, like what fight a tree, but that motherfucker was mad.
Speaker 5I believe Pierce's nipples.
Speaker 4Yeah, you're right about that. Pull it up bro.
Speaker 5And it was cold as shit.
Speaker 4Yeah, he wasn't going to wear a shirt, no matter what.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 4That's how you knew he was drunk enough.
Speaker 2One of the first times I met him not met him, but hung out with him there was a party at Clevenger's house and it was snowing and I pulled up there and Drapes comes out with no shirt, laying in the snow, drunk as all get out. I was like this mother.
Speaker 4Somebody's just hairy too.
Speaker 2Crazy. He would just drink and just go all out. Yeah, he lived on the edge.
Speaker 5To a point really, yeah, yeah, he didn't even really get to. He didn't ever even get to really see the edges he could have seen. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's the tragedy of life, but I always thought don't know what if a lot dude, you can what if of life?
Speaker 4But I always thought, don't know, you can. What if a lot, dude, you can. What if that's what you ain't?
Speaker 5supposed to do. You can what if all you want? So boy yeah.
Speaker 4You can get dark fast.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking about, we're talking about Limits and lines.
Speaker 4This is what we're worth Right.
Speaker 5Right, you know I got a. There's a few rules of life that I live by, you know, and these rules the first three I learned from my granddad, and I don't know if y'all have any rules that y'all live by For sure, but my first rule used to be read the paper every day. You can fit it in any conversation, anywhere at any time, which now there's no papers, it's all social media. That way, you don't ever feel out of place. That was my grandpa, jack Flynn. That's what he told me. It's one of the things he told me. He also told me that if you can see the whites around a person's eyes when they're talking to you, they're mentally unstable. So, in other words, they're crazy.
Speaker 4They're on drugs yeah.
Speaker 5And he also told me that. Third one he has never dated a woman with more problems than you.
Speaker 4It's hard to do.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, but you know, then I have a few myself Maybe. The nature of women you know. If they got to ask, they don't know. That applies to police, to mamas, to preachers, to if they got to ask you, they don't know the answer I don't know, you're right so so?
Speaker 5so what did it? What the deal is? What I'm trying to say is you never tell on yourself. Don't ever tell on yourself. That's I mean. There's a reason for that. The reason I say this is because sometimes the the truth does not help. That's. I'm talking about my rules. The truth does not set you. I'm talking about my rules. The truth does not set you free. The truth, I mean. The person that made that bullshit up was a female that was scorned and scarred, but you know anyway.
Speaker 4Brother, what's absolute? There's nothing absolute, there's nothing. Everything's kind of temporary in a way. Those things are like I said, we were talking about lines and limits. Right, right, there are limits to a lot of things. That's a different philosophy.
Speaker 5That's a different philosophy. You don't want them following you around to fall in love, but anyway you are correct. So we're going to have to have topics Like if you all be sitting at work and you think of something that would be really cool to talk about, write that shit down.
Speaker 3I do because you know right off the bat.
Speaker 5Uh, I don't know about talking about, uh, you know, like my situation. Yeah, we kind of went deep, deep and well, my shit goes dark.
Speaker 2I was thinking that already anyway, I was already thinking about extra. We should do that every episode.
Speaker 4No, but I was thinking some other dark shit. My shit goes dark anyway some other stuff, because I've seen some other stuff this week. I didn't know how to take it and I see shit, weird dude, like some weird animal shit and stuff. Uh, I'll tell you in a minute I want to know the telephone calls.
Speaker 5That's the episode we got to get back to.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's gonna be a ghost episode, dude, that's more, that's, that's beyond believing in what I know. And some of that is you can't prove it's stuff, I felt and stuff.
Speaker 5I mean really.
Speaker 2I'll probably get one, the kids.
Speaker 4I think have one that plugs in the.
Speaker 2Xbox. Does that work? Oh yeah, will that work? That would work won't it. No, that's why Zach is part of this team. I was just guessing he controls some of this shit right here. But no, I know we talked, like I said, last week. We talked with Sharon about. I just wanted to talk and Sharon is.
Speaker 5Who's Sharon Draper's mother? So we got to remember there's people that's going to be dropping in on our conversations that never don't know. I think that's why we will edit to remember there's people that's going to be dropping in on our little conversations that never don't know.
Speaker 2I think that's why we will edit to put them things together. Yeah, you're right.
Heartfelt Memories: Lost and Found
Speaker 5But what I'm saying is we do jump topics a lot. If they don't know. We said we had Sharon on. They don't know who Sharon is. So I'm saying so, sharon, which was who we're talking about today, which?
Speaker 4was.
Speaker 2Draper's mother, because people are going to put it all together for people.
Speaker 5But we're talking about one episode and another episode, yeah it'll be like a continuing.
Speaker 4Well, you can have one about Draper and then you can have hers as a piece.
Speaker 5Oh, that's like one of those to-be-continued type shows.
Speaker 4Well, you can have hers as a piece of a hospital episode, something about the hospital Right there. Just as you know, just as you know, I this is Sharon worked here for however many years and yadda, yadda and really not have anything about.
Speaker 2We'll put that together gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 5You know what I mean. You could that's why I say when I edit, it's probably why to have her again, when you mean edit, you mean like take parts and put it to a whole another yep see, that's why I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to no no, no, no.
Speaker 2All that stuff is meaningful?
Speaker 4Well, no, it is. I could bring that back to the lines and limits. As you know, somebody seeking your lines and limits and a risk taker Sound familiar you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Drake was definitely a risk taker. Well, he had that?
Speaker 5Yeah, he definitely said, you know that he would never drive he did.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's kind of a. He had some superstition.
Speaker 5He also said he never lived to be a certain age.
Speaker 4That's why he was weird about the car thing.
Speaker 5But you know, and when we do go to talk about all this, I may not have much input on some stuff, you know, but because you know it's just's, it's, it's, it's close, it's close, you know, and it's, and I don't want to feel calloused or nothing else, it's, it's hard for me to no, your pain's personal dude yeah, yeah um, and everybody's is yeah I mean, he was y'all's really good friend, he was my friend, but y'all were like super tight and it's hard for me to see anything past the wreck right now, you know.
Speaker 5So I'm Anyway. So let's, let's talk about Drake, let's get David in.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4Let me text him and see what's up. Huh, or me be in, or what. Call him Okay, stop.
Speaker 2So we're sitting here, me, zach and Earl. We was talking about Drape. We had his mom on earlier.
Speaker 4This week.
Speaker 2This week and talked to her about him, and so today we're just trying to remember him and some of the stories maybe that we had with him, or some of the funniest stories, just something that you remember, drake for about, and so we've all he. Whatever you know funny story or so, yeah, so I'll start with my story Kind of the first time we grew up together, we was in school together from day one, right, earl? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4That's what I was thinking back first Kindergarten. I remember him being a shy kid. Yeah, he didn't talk much, I think he came up and hit me and ran away. Yeah, or something like that.
Speaker 2So it was really about almost high school before we really even ever hung out. Like I somehow ended up in Kiwana at a party. I guess I took my girlfriend home at the time and I dropped her off and I guess maybe I was at a party or something. I look over there and I see Drake. He's like the only person I know from Chillicothe. So I'm like I'm just looking around, so who's there? I'm like what the hell is he doing here? So I go up to him and of course I had been drinking all night. I was pretty tore up and so was he. So I was like, oh shit, what's up, drake? So we're just hanging out talking, having a beer or two. Next thing, you know, like we've been drinking all night, this beer man. I don't even like I say it was like blackout after a certain point, but yeah. So after that I was like man, drake, he's cool as hell. You know he liked to party.
Speaker 2so hang out, yeah, so I'm like party, yeah, and so that's kind of my first, first memory of hanging out with him yeah, you don't remember as a kid not much in school, like no, not much, he was so shit, he was so quiet but I don't remember.
Speaker 4You know, I remember like I remember in kindergarten. That's the first time we didn't see he wasn't with us in pre-K.
Speaker 2Remember.
Speaker 4Happy Town School with Miss Hope. Yes. He wasn't at that.
Speaker 2I remember meeting him in kindergarten and I don't know.
Speaker 4I have an odd memory for a long time ago and I can't remember what happened today.
Speaker 2I remember and then before that, but that's like a junior high age or so yeah, I remember some of that before we hung out like that.
Speaker 4But man, I remember playing all kinds of shit with him walking around town. I remember walk he liked to walk he liked well, because he wouldn't drive yeah, he wouldn't. As we talked about that earlier, he wouldn't sit behind. Remember, he wouldn't sit even in the driver's seat.
Speaker 7No, he didn't even want to sit in the driver's seat.
Speaker 4No he'd freak out. If you'd like try to make him left at the last seat, he'd like make you switch, or he's standing outside in the rain.
Speaker 7He wasn't gonna get in the car tony was always trying to make him drive he would not not Right.
Speaker 4Oh, he tried one time. Who tried? Somebody tried with him, that much Couldn't I did.
Speaker 2I tried to get him to drive a Toyota. First thing he did was drive in the ditch or what? Yeah, he just like straight to the ditch. I'm like bro, go straight, he always has something.
Speaker 4That's one of them quirky things. I mean I got so many, many stories about him.
Speaker 2I mean, they're just crazy stories, like a shit he did at parties and stuff. Yeah, yeah, because he would always get. He would always get like nobody could get. Nobody could get drunker than him or faster.
Speaker 7Yeah, you know, he was going to be the first one that you know, before everybody even got there he was already drunk, yeah and then, well, of course, one time he was famously passed out and out before that yeah, that was I think that was that was more than once yes, you're right how many times he.
Speaker 4He was probably the one that originated taking his shirt off yeah yeah especially when it was cold yeah, like, yeah like, just cuz like he was first one, right, it's like time to come out of a shirt and talk some shit and probably lay down and I never forget like we had it's like if we went to get like whatever, say we got like, all right, we're gonna get 40s tonight, we're getting, oh yeah, two or three he's already three. Is he need to get more the?
Speaker 7whole night. It'd be like six o'clock and Drape had already drank two of his.
Speaker 5Miller, genuine highlight.
Speaker 4His eyes weren't even open. He wanted to go get more, probably going to borrow some money.
Speaker 7Whatever it was, he was going to go hardest at it. He didn't waste, no time.
Speaker 2That's really what alcohol is for, especially at that age. Not trying to be like this tastes good, you know.
Speaker 5and to think about it, you know, we really were fortunate as kids. How we got to party where we got to party, you know, just think about it Every weekend. For a while, man, we were out there at my place, you know.
Speaker 4Would you say fortunate or unfortunate?
Speaker 7Rocking that posture for the rock of that past year.
Speaker 5You said fortunate, right, yeah, fortunate I thought you said unfortunate. No, no, very fortunate, but yeah, all the stuff we did.
Speaker 4Day and age, time and place.
Speaker 5Yeah, most definitely yeah. We got away with so much more stuff than the kids could never even think about getting away with today.
Speaker 4No, but we couldn't do some of the shit we did. That's right, because they got cameras and shit. Yeah, everything. Yeah, cameras in the halls is cool. Don't want to be seen. They've seen that PDA in the hall, you know yeah.
Speaker 2Or wherever else, but yeah, drape. I remember this one time, drape. We had a party. Of course we had several parties at the party house. We'll talk about that someday, someday.
Speaker 5Maybe we should talk. We've got to go straight to the episode where he gets knocked through the wall.
Speaker 4You just refer to the party house, though you don't have to. That's the party house.
Speaker 2You don't refer to that. So anyway, I never forget we had a party there and all we had was vodka. That's all we bought. I don't even have how many bottles.
Speaker 7The first time, because before that we always got kegs or cases.
Speaker 2Yeah, so we was going to try something different.
Speaker 7Well, we can get more for cheaper More 175.
Speaker 2It wasn't a very good idea.
Speaker 4It wasn't a good idea Like $6. Like $5 for a 175.
Speaker 2But I remember, so I had a girlfriend at the time and she had a sister, so I had a girlfriend at the time and she had a sister.
Speaker 3Don't be one of that expensive.
Speaker 2She had a sister, my girlfriend had a sister, and so I was like, hey, I got a friend to hook up with. And she was like, okay, so I brought her to the party. Well, the sister that my girlfriend, you know, she was a cute girl. Her sister, dude, she was something else. Yeah, but anyway, drake's like yeah. So she showed up and went hey, drake, I brought a girl for you, bro. He's like what? And there you go, but anyway, she grabbed a bottle of vodka and downed it.
Speaker 2Yeah, a bottle, a whole bottle, and just started downing down it and drape's. Like you're not outdoing me, he's like grab one too.
Speaker 7Yeah, you're right, and the rest is history yeah, oh, I know some other part, I think that was the same time that somebody was like, uh, I'll, they were going to give somebody 2020 to down that whole bottle. And Drake downed it like the very last swallow and then was like I couldn't do it. If anyone else can do it, they get the 20. So Marsh just grabbed it and drink that last little bit and grab that 20. That wasn't fair. Drake drank 75%.
Speaker 2Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 2That that party was crazy.
Speaker 7So what Do you want me to try to see if I can call Sam on mine.
Speaker 2Can you like three-way?
Speaker 7Yeah, I was looking to see if I can. That's what she said.
Speaker 2I never dreamed of it this way.
Speaker 4She told me about it, but I didn't believe her.
Speaker 2So yeah, Drape, he was a party animal, for sure.
Speaker 4Yeah, he went hard he went hard.
Speaker 2There was no sipping. He didn't sip nothing.
Speaker 5It was like I never had that gravity bone in a sink for a long time Y'all there.
Speaker 7Yeah, I can hear us, Sam, you there.
Speaker 6Yeah, what's up, what's up, what's up big sam, bucky, jack and earl gosh, we're talking about drake oh, man blast from the past.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah hey, what's up, big sam, we're just chilling, man just talking about drape and some of the funniest stories.
Speaker 7So, out of the blue, I'm sitting here and I'm watching the game and I, you know, ch Chris had texted me. And, out of the blue, sam texted me and he was like what's Earl's number, what's the colonel's number? And I texted it to him and he was like yeah, I'm, I'm, I want to teach his fiance's son, richard, I want to teach him about reggae and without drapes, I guess Earl's the next best place to start. And I was like man, that's crazy, crazy, because we're just about to have like a call about drape. He, I swear he just texted me that like. And I was like man, that's crazy, just out of the blue yeah, that's.
Speaker 2That's kind of what this whole thing's about, bro. It's just out of the blue it's just out of the blue, you know, but that's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's crazy hey, I've been listening to a lot of stuff lately, some peter tosh and some bob marley recently, uh, some other you ain't wrong.
Speaker 6So what would you? What would you say? Eric is the best bob marley song to introduce somebody.
Speaker 4To introduce somebody to, To introduce somebody to oh well, you're going to talk about like three little birds. Yeah, three little birds.
Speaker 6A 20-year-old right Like a 20-year-old.
Speaker 2You just got to listen. Just start from the beginning. I say start from the beginning, like when you listen to an artist, he's as great as his.
Speaker 4There's like three little birds there's Waiting in Vain.
Speaker 7Shit, there's a Mother's.
Speaker 4Born. Of course, man, you can go a lot of places. No Woman, no Cry, yeah.
Speaker 6I shot the sheriff.
Speaker 4He's saying some other stuff. Oh, I shot the sheriff. That right there you jump into somebody, bob Marley, a poet and a prophet, I mean.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're not wrong, more than that.
Speaker 4And then, peter, you're talking about something else the defeat of apartheid by music. It's the only peaceful overthrow of a government that's ever happened. And it still wasn't that. It wasn't totally peaceful, it wasn't a war. They didn't charge in the capital and take it over, but they took it over with the radio stations and music and the people and with a form it was a movement it's a form of christianity. Rastafarianism comes from ethiopia. It's a really primitive form of christianity.
Speaker 7That, uh, that took over which one one was played at his funeral.
Speaker 4I played Peter Tosh.
Speaker 2There was a song, it was one song.
Speaker 4It was Peter Tosh? I believe no not a man. It's one. No, what is that it's?
Speaker 2called One Foundation, one Foundation, one Foundation.
Speaker 4That's right, there was another one I wanted to play that I wouldn't play.
Speaker 3I wanted to play one.
Speaker 4I'm glad I didn't play it, brother.
Speaker 3Clay said no, this is for you.
Speaker 4It's another one. It's another Peter's Arch song. It's called I'd have to look man.
Speaker 3I think it's.
Speaker 4The Funeral or something. That's what it's called. It's a little darker, but it's.
Speaker 2Yeah, one Foundation, a lot of that shit was Dre.
Speaker 4One Foundation was something else it's about. There will never be no love at all, because you can't explain love, and there will never be none of it as long as there's life and people.
Speaker 7I remember I think Wallace played at the funeral, right?
Speaker 4Yes, and he had to listen to all this. They wanted to have music and I had to come up with music for all four of them.
Speaker 7I remember Wallace saying Some of it. Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 4We played some different stuff.
Speaker 7When he died down he was like I know a lot of y'all can feel Drake in those songs he was playing that.
Speaker 4We walked him in with that. I remember vividly, dude, he had to listen to it. I had to make a CD. It might have been a cassette at that time, it probably was, but I remember making songs there. I remember like most of it I was thinking I don't know what to put for, like tamra and but it wasn't because.
Speaker 4But I remember like and then I had to think, yeah, I think so too probably was awesome with scotch, oh yeah but uh, I remember thinking like on those other guys I don't know Let me talk to you know, sharon and Benny, and then with Draper it was like I was so contemplative, like what do I want to?
Speaker 2play. Hey, you did good, earl, you did good. Cause that song. Yeah, I've listened to it Quite a bit since then Well.
Speaker 5I guarantee it was a cassette?
Speaker 2Yeah, I think so too, but music is just Drape loved music Like he was really a music guy.
Speaker 4Of course there's certain parts of it. Yeah, he kind of did some rock and some reggae, oh yeah.
Live from Chillicothe Hospital
Speaker 5I mean, when I won him Megadeth, what was it? Yeah, yeah, Megadeth was one.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, you know what?
Speaker 4Some of that. There's a lot of parts of that besides the different parts of the music and the lyrics and writings like poetry, uh back in that day, album covers were a big thing yeah, you remember that's talking about bag of death. Yeah, that that was a big thing too. Um, what is the? Uh, there was a lot of stuff to that I don't.
Speaker 7When I went to um, when I'm you know, drake came to um, when I'm you know, drake came to live with me and Eric and love it, and you know, at that time I was pretty much like, if it's not hip hop, I'm not listening to it. Yeah, and.
Speaker 7Drake loved hip hop too, but he also got me down I mean Eric uh on like Zeppelin and uh, sabbath, and then at that time dude remember what was at that time early got me on to uh, you know, he would know all the members of the band. So he'd be like, oh okay, black sabbath. You know ozzy tony alamy on guitar yeah, he's a butler on bass. He always knew all the names of everybody in the band.
Speaker 2Yeah, the parts I knew that I knew yeah, well, he was very, he was very smart. Who wrote it? Who wrote this?
Speaker 4song they didn't even write. They didn't know. Yeah, he knew that shit already. He was very smart. Who wrote this song? They didn't even write it. They didn't know. Yeah, he knew that shit already. He was like nah and so-and-so, had the guitar dude. He's the one doing all this shit. He already knew the music and some other stuff too. Man, there's some other stuff that's come up later that he was into. That I didn't fucking like for 15, 20 years. Yeah, yeah, but uh, anyway, I do a lot of that 70s rock. That I never, yeah, well, plus at that time there was the seattle grunge thing going.
Speaker 3I remember like that was kind of funny, like nirvana, yeah that shit.
Speaker 4It's got to be its own place.
Speaker 2That was like the peak nirvana era yeah, well, that was a new kind of music yeah drop d tuning see it Like like one of my.
Speaker 6My first memories of drape was like of all of y'all too, and you know like, if y'all remember like I used to get to be like the little buddy that got to hang out with like all the cool high school kids You're a bit younger, I was, I was, I was, you know, quite a bit younger than y'all and you know I was the manager of your football team and stuff. I remember there happened to be one weekend where my mom went out of town to go visit my dad because he was a long haul trucker, and everybody ended up at my house that night. And then there was Dave and Drape and I know JT too, and then I can't remember who all else, and I know JT too, and then I can't remember who all else, but they were just like ooh in and on over my mom and dad's like tape collection and record collection, yeah, and we were like cranking music up really loud.
Speaker 6That night is the night of the infamous gym story. That's the night where Drape had a freaking half a gallon of Skull Gin and he was just taking it straight to the dome all night long. Well, toward the end of the night of us listening to music and hanging out and drinking and other activities. Drape just turns up this bottle of skull plastic bottle gin and it's just like it's glugging and all of a sudden it stops and about four shots just goes straight into drapes and the rest of the night he's just fighting it off, but he's finishing that bottle of gin, damn it.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, he didn't leave bottles unfinished. He wasn't going to let that go to waste. No, he don't let it. He wasn't letting the bottle go unfinished. I promise you he was down in that shit.
Speaker 6I never could drink like that. I was not that kind of drinker. Me and Drake had lots of funny references to that months afterwards. Yeah yeah, infamous eye shot. Yeah, it was like yanking the bottle around so hard.
Speaker 7I mean infamous eye shot. Yeah he was like yanking the bottle around so hard.
Speaker 2I mean every, every party he went to.
Speaker 4He made the craziest story of it all, like you said, he was the first one to dive in. He was the first one maybe to whatever pass out yeah he'd pass out real early. He was the first one getting to whatever pass out. Yeah, he'd pass out real early. He was the first one to get in a fight. He probably started stopping him from drinking.
Speaker 2He'd probably be better just to pass out when he gets like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean when you start acting a complete fool. Yeah, he's like it's time to go to sleep.
Speaker 3Or he'd pass out, he'd pass out. That's what I'm saying he would pass out, he would pass out.
Speaker 4That's what I'm saying. He would pass out. I mean, I have to Pass out sitting up or in a chair, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah. But, he started that. Well, would you down whole bottles of alcohol? You're right, you're going to act a certain way.
Speaker 4Some of us don't drink liquor, no more. Some of us drink all the time. I know, yeah, I've been there too.
Speaker 5Yeah, Sam don't know nothing about that drinking like that Nah, I don't think he drinks that much.
Speaker 2Sam.
Speaker 6Oh, no, no.
Speaker 5I ain't never seen him. Sam, when's the last time you drank a bottle of water? I can't remember the last time I drank one.
Speaker 2Yeah, I drank.
Speaker 7We went off topic a bit, but me, sam and Corey went to Vegas for my bachelor party and Sam was like I'm not drinking no water this whole weekend, no matter what. And we went to go eat and the waitress brought everyone waters, you know, before the order and stuff, and Sam was like take that back, I'm not drinking it. He was like I'm not drinking no water this whole time and he didn't, but it almost killed him, yeah.
Speaker 6Yeah, when I went to the Bellagio that first night, man like I felt like a demon, visited me in my sleep and was like you better drink some.
Speaker 5I don't know if that was the demon.
Speaker 4That could have been an angel. That's somebody's safety.
Speaker 7He told the waitress, like, take that back. I don't want it back, dang, I don't even want it on my table.
Speaker 2That's what drinking does sometimes Make pretty dumb decisions. So yeah, so yeah. We were just chilling talking about Drake. Some of the crazy stories.
Speaker 7There's so many. Yeah, I'm like yo. I always remembered him in school, growing up in elementary and knowing him and everything. But yeah, as it got, I think, you know, after he started hanging out with Bucky more and got into that.
Speaker 2I think I might have corrupted him the many people I helped corrupt him. What did?
Speaker 7you say or it's or anything.
Speaker 6Well, you corrupted him on black women, for sure, I mean yeah, I think he.
Speaker 4no, I don't think Bucky did.
Speaker 6Or do you think it was Drape that corrupted?
Speaker 5Bucky, you know you might want to rephrase. I don't know if that'd be a corruption?
Speaker 2Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6Well, yeah, I mean, you know I didn't mean it. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, you know I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5By no means, because there's not nobody that was on this call that shit ain't contagious In fact at the time, especially if you didn't play sports, you know.
Speaker 7So most of us were close because of that.
Speaker 2Right yeah, because we all grew up playing football.
Speaker 7Everybody played sports back then.
Speaker 2Baseball, baseball yeah.
Speaker 4There were different reasons Like we were talking about, he wasn't in pre-K with us. There was different reasons. He didn't do all that he wasn't athletic.
Speaker 2He probably could have been.
Speaker 4But he just never. His parents weren't pushing him out there to be involved.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 7No, he wasn't athletic, but he knew the game. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6Genius. Oh, he was a huge Cowboys fan.
Speaker 7Super sports. He was a Cowboys fan he was a big-time Hoops fan.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, yeah, he always could be the statistician, or whatever else.
Speaker 7He's the reason In Lubbock the big-ass fight was over him wearing that Sean Kemp jersey. Oh, my God you know, a dude called Anthony that he wore. You're right.
Speaker 5That was a that's crazy.
Speaker 7It was a damn sheer act.
Speaker 5Some people's heads got bounced off pavements.
Speaker 4You're right, drake started that. He was probably the drunkest one at that point.
Speaker 5All I remember is Eric having to hold his guitar and the other dude had to hold his guitar and he was hitting him on his hands, trying to make him release the guitar.
Speaker 6Hell yeah and I remember rolling down those stairs with him, wasn't Drape always the drunkest, though.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, At least the first one.
Speaker 4Because he just downed First one to be the drunkest, first one to pass out. There's probably some hours.
Speaker 2Drape would get back up, though sure would. Yeah, you had to wait you had to wait.
Speaker 5You had to wait and then be like, no, it'd be later, two or three, and then I remember it'd be like way late because I remember some second adventures being the craziest hey, but those, those were the days of drinking yourself sober, for sure, yeah yeah yeah, you didn't quit.
Speaker 4Yeah, well, you tried to like you go, man. Even like when we live in lubbock, we figured out, we figured out like let's go to denny's or the ihop or something to eat ourselves sober yeah, that's, let's drink again.
Speaker 2Yeah, why stop?
Speaker 7yeah, you know, steak and eggs, and then let's, and then let's uh but that was just got what the buffet was in lubbock eric that we would save up to go to.
Speaker 4Oh, yeah, that's, that's what I mean. And there was what the kettle, the kettle was the 4 am spot.
Speaker 3Oh they had a kettle there.
Speaker 4It was hot at like 3.30, 4 am. Last call in Lubbock was at that time. I guess it was like three or maybe two, but that shit would be hot like at 3 and 4 am. Yeah, we were usually home in bed by 5.
Speaker 2Buffet's the whole show itself Denny's IHOP yeah, eat yourself some.
Speaker 7Yeah, we would wait the whole weekend.
Speaker 4I didn't know about that. You get real drunk, pass out, get back up, drink some more and then let's go eat a big Camille, like steak and eggs, something like that Chicken fry steak with it.
Speaker 3Drape's the one that knew about that.
Speaker 4He's like let me get there before the eyes are open. We just propped him up and let's go eat. He'd be sitting in the booth. He's like what are we eating, drape? He wouldn't even look at the menu. He'd order the most expensive thing.
Speaker 7That's a pretty funny story from that time. So me, earl and Drape lived together and, like I said, we would like me and Drape like wouldn't eat on Friday, drink all day on saturday just to save up to go to that buffet saturday night, you know.
Speaker 7Uh, eric was going to that nursing school and he had a what was the dude bryce? Yeah, his parents were pharmacists real cool black dude friend and so eric had kind of like a double study date. So they were going to that to go eat and, like eric was serious, wasn't drinking, smoking out nothing. They were up there and then me and drape are completely hammered. I mean I don't even know how we show up and we like sit right by eric and them and we're acting like that. We don't know, we don't know them and they don't know us. That was the whole time being draper. That's hilarious. Yeah, that was at denny's?
Speaker 6I never heard that story.
Speaker 4It was at Denny's over there by the campus and hospitals and shit wasn't it?
Speaker 7We tried to ruin Eric's double date. It's like you know, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4The chicks were straight. Me and Browse knew something was wrong.
Speaker 2No, he knew I was like how long did y'all live in Lubbock?
Speaker 4Like about a year.
Speaker 7Yeah, just the first year.
Speaker 2That's it right, Just one year.
Speaker 7Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And then Drake came back.
Speaker 4Yeah Well, did we come back at the same time? We all just decided like it was a lot of shit, the weather. We all were in a spot, different shit had happened in that year and we were like let's go home. We had other plans. Me and dave were going to midwestern drake was going to go?
Speaker 6is that when you got in your wreck, dave? Yeah, well, that's during the wreck, yeah was that like when your wreck happened and stuff?
Speaker 4no that was that. When did you have that wreck?
Speaker 2february march, that's when you came back, one was before was it? I mean that's before I came back but that was the year I was in Lubbock.
Speaker 7Yeah right, I was in Lubbock. That was still some months, oh, in.
Speaker 4Lubbock yeah, that was in Lubbock. That was in the ice and snow and shit too. You wrecked both of them, right.
Speaker 6The red and the blue one, right?
Speaker 7No, I wrecked the red one in Lubbock, badass gray one. Yes, that was badass.
Speaker 2It was badass too.
Speaker 7It was super badass. That's the one I totaled, the red eclipse. Nuh-uh what it was, that gray one.
Speaker 6I had a gray one with a red top. I do remember that one.
Speaker 3Mitsubishi.
Speaker 2Was it a Mitsubishi?
Speaker 7Yeah, it was gray and had that solid black top, so nobody had one like that.
Speaker 4What was that University 19th were direct.
Speaker 7I was going to pick up the dude, kent Sherrill, that I knew from Amherst. I was going to pick him up to go to watch Chillicothe play in the basketball tournament the next day and I never made it.
Speaker 4We had to go to the ER. Me, drape and your sister remember like probably after yeah, calling around like hey y'all got this dude, david hopkins and they're like nobody, you know, like I don't know why we had that version of this story.
Speaker 6And then we're like yeah, we got him what? And we were down there and he's like yeah, because didn't buy you the beer or whatever, and so she was like totally flipping out probably because Because it was early in the day.
Speaker 4It was like five in the day.
Speaker 7Arrested because they were like hiding in a field and spying on us and saw me and Horace help her carry it to the car. So we got MIPs and my sister got contributed to a minor Out of the. Yeah, what do they call the strip?
Speaker 6What Alyssa has a record.
Speaker 7Yeah, so what do they call the strip? Alyssa has a record. So after that my dad was more than happy for me to move back to Midwest.
Speaker 3So is that when you and Dave lived together for a while.
Speaker 2When he moved back Yep.
Speaker 7Me and Eric and Zach were going to move to Wichita together, but Eric and Misty got together that summer, so Eric stayed Me and Zach and Zach were going to move to Wichita together, but Eric and Misty got together that summer, so Eric stayed, me and Zach moved it together, and then Raymond moved with us, right?
Speaker 6Then it was just that was the dark period. What do you mean? No, that was the beginning of it.
Speaker 5No, no, no, that was before it, Because we lived on Taft, then we moved to Colonial Park and then that was the Dark Age right there. The Dark Age that's when it began, when Willie was staying with us. That was before that.
Speaker 7But didn't they all move down?
Speaker 5Yeah, then we switched apartments. We were downhill from there, bro, downhill from there. So what year was that?
Speaker 6dave shoot 90, 98 or 99, because that was like when me and drape were like really, really cool, was like 96, 90, I think it was. I think it's a couple years because it was like after I like my senior year and when I graduated, and then like I worked at the elevator when me and Drape was like really cool.
Speaker 5Are we talking about the dark ages, or which age are we talking about?
Speaker 6No, I mean, they were the dark ages, for sure, but in Chillicothe they weren't as dark, you know, like we were.
Speaker 5We lived together in 95.
Speaker 2So so you and me me Dave.
Speaker 5Yeah, we damn sure did. Yeah, dave did.
Speaker 2Yeah, and me and me, dave, yeah, we damn sure did yeah.
Speaker 5Dave did yeah me and dave yeah in wichita. Yes because yeah, because I worked at cry back 95. I mean there's just no way around it was a elephant in the dark ages.
Speaker 4Wait, you're talking about methamphetamine.
Speaker 5Yes, yeah I mean, yeah, so we're talking about yeah, I got married in 98, so I was doing it for a good two years before that, so it would be 96.
Speaker 4Yeah, it was all in there, you're right the dark ages.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm not laughing, it's not funny. No, I mean, it was a time of craziness.
Speaker 4Well, it wasn't around here before that it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was new.
Speaker 4It was still, Still. We didn't know what it was at that time.
Speaker 7Yeah, nobody really knew what it could actually do to you.
Speaker 4They thought it was just speed.
Speaker 5That's how we got talked into doing it. You could spend more time with your friends, thank you.
Speaker 2I bet he would decline this interview.
Speaker 5I don't know, he might.
Speaker 3This show is for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 5Yeah exactly.
The Truth in Reflection
Speaker 6Some of the names in this broadcast have been changed to protect the identities of the innocent.
Speaker 4Yeah, we ain't protecting nobody else. But, we all know.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was a crazy time Y'all lived together in 95. 95, 96, 97, 98. And Drape actually lived with me for a while.
Speaker 4We talked about that last time yeah, over there by united that was 95, 96 too.
Speaker 7That was what was that 96 yeah, because when I'd come home, I'd come through there.
Speaker 6Oh, did he got married? Yeah, when? When did draper live? Because the uh charlie fletcher apartment yeah that was 97 97 98 yeah where's the worst? Yeah, 99 because that was like I graduated in 98, so that was like my senior year, and that's when that? Yeah, he was living there because he he was dating Mary Lee at the time. Yeah, a lot of shit happened at the hotel Motel.
Speaker 7Hotel motel. At one point in time JT and Draper had those apartments right beside each other.
Speaker 6Yeah, right next to each other.
Speaker 7So that was I'd come home on the weekends, and that was where we didn't hang out much back then because I was damn married and had a kid you weren't around when Drake was up there.
Speaker 4A lot.
Speaker 2Uh-uh.
Speaker 5Oh yeah, you got cereal. What you got serious.
Speaker 2Yeah, I had family. You had family, yeah so it kind of took me away.
Speaker 4Yeah, well, you know what that was kind of when them apartments was new. You know what? They'd been a motel before that. Well, they just made them a motel.
Speaker 2They converted them, they remodeled.
Speaker 4They converted them to where they at least made two rooms into one Different times, crazy times, dark times, but we talked.
Speaker 2Different times but we talked different times, but good times, good memories, that's why so, hey, I don't know if I was super obsessed with Michael Irvin.
Speaker 7That was his favorite cowboy yeah he loved. Michael Irvin. He had the jersey and everything he loved. Michael Irvin, yeah, hey.
Speaker 2Sam, you know we're recording this right. I love Michael Irvin yeah, the jersey and everything. We love Michael Irvin, yeah, hey, sam, you know we're recording this right, okay, so yeah, like I say, this is just entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 5But yeah, oh yeah, man, all those times were crazy. I mean just like nuts. Every time I'd go to work, I'd come home from work, for instance, there'd be somebody in a closet, somebody freaking out. I don't know who that was.
Speaker 4I can explain that, earl?
Speaker 3I can explain that.
Speaker 5But that's some of the funniest things that's ever happened, man, the telephone calls that I got during that time David would call me, I'd be goneid would call me, I'd be gone. You know, david would call me. He's sack, david. He's like hey, can you hear me? I'm like yeah, what's up? He said man, the cops are at the door. I said okay. I said what's? Let everybody be hiring shit. We got a bunch of weed.
Speaker 5That's when they handed the weed who jumped over the balcony. Was that Dave? It was that shit. It was hilarious Shit.
Speaker 7One time JT lived in another apartment. The cops came and JT came over there while the cops were banging on the door and I went out on the balcony and dropped everything down to him and the cops were still banging on the door. And I went out on the balcony and dropped everything down to him and the cops were still banging on the door. I never let him in.
Speaker 2Not today.
Speaker 4I can't believe they went away. I remember that. We used to.
Speaker 5I remember I was like we'd watch the Cowboys on Sunday and we'd always try to get the pizza man to smoke a joint.
Speaker 2He never did, by the way. No, that's not true. Yeah, there was a red-headed one one time. Yeah, he probably did Crazy times man.
Speaker 4I think that's about 80-20. You can get a good bit of smoke.
Speaker 7I'm trying to remember too.
Speaker 4JT was one of them. Remember JT delivered pizza. I remember Red Knox and all that shit too, yeah, of course he did.
Speaker 7Like he did it. One funny thing that JT also did is he had the keys, because he was like opening the store he was shift manager or whatever. He had the Weedleaf keys. He had the keys to Dairy Queen and we would go. It would be like 2 in the morning and we'd be like fuck it. He'd go up there and get burger, patties and all kind of food and go back to the house.
Speaker 4The only thing better than that might have been Tony Bradley having the keys to the Taco Plaza. They get some big tacos up there. I'll tell you what that might have been.
Speaker 2That's a whole other episode. Close race, you're right.
Speaker 6The best person to ever have the keys was Richard Bradley. Having the keys to the Bull in the Woods, that's the best story ever, but we can't really tell that one.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a whole other episode as well, but see, we're talking about guys that are gone now.
Speaker 4That's right, it's related yeah.
Speaker 2And that's kind of why we wanted to do these this podcast thing to help remember some of our, because bucky don't remember well, I'll tell you that about two months ago I was uh doing some workout.
Speaker 6It was uh, I was a little bit early and so, of course, like you go out that way and you go right by big valley, and so I needed to kill about 20 minutes, man, and I went out and opened the gate and went out. I went out and sat on the benches out there and talked to drape and tamra. I I knew the kids, man, but I didn't, I didn't really know them. But you know the other thing, talk about drape. You know, I mean you lost tamra and her two kids. I know the boy's name was jordan and I forget the girl's name and uh, I hate that, but you know we lost four people that night.
Speaker 6Man, and tamra was a. Tamra was a sweet soul man. I mean, she was, yeah, me, she was like really shy and like, but I always thought she was super cute and always had like a really big smile on her face and a positive outlook on life. Man, she was real sweet, like great. Yeah, I didn't know her all that well, man, she was always super nice to me and always had a smile on her face. It just seemed like she loved those two kids.
Speaker 4So much man At that time I couldn't reason out why that would happen to any one of them, Much less Drake. That's hard to reconcile, much less Drake I couldn't either, man, and yeah, that for a long time. It's hard to reconcile.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is.
Speaker 7Well, that's another reason why we wanted to talk about these things too, is it's just another one.
Speaker 4Well, there's, hey, there's things we don't know, and there's things that don't make sense. Don't make sense.
Speaker 3You don't have to ask why I understand that too, You're right.
Crazy Times: What We Did as Kids
Speaker 6I've been to guys, I've been to a lot of funerals, as y'all know, over my years, and that one man, that one I mean.
Speaker 2It was different.
Speaker 6Tough as burying my mom and dad. I want to say man.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, there's like different degrees of this.
Speaker 6there's apples and oranges dude I mean, it's just a simple way to put it through me, like how this happened. That's right, it makes no sense makes no sense.
Speaker 4No, you can't reason that out. To make any sense of any thing, that I just never understood it.
Speaker 6Man, you're right, I just I had to go.
Speaker 7I don't know, but we still don't understand a lot of times I think about had that not happened? I try to picture draping this new day and age.
Speaker 4Yeah, we talked about that earlier still wouldn't have a cell phone still walking, still walking.
Speaker 2He'd probably be like Uber and everywhere walking everywhere there's people similar.
Speaker 7He'd probably be like Uber and everywhere, walking everywhere, there's people similar. Can you imagine now, with all this new real strong strains of bud and everything, how Stone Drape would get? Because back then it was just weed, that's all there was. Either had weed or no weed. Now, with all these, I can.
Speaker 2Yeah, I didn't have a name like where'd you get this from?
Speaker 7oh, from, oh, so and so over here edibles and everything I'm just imagining drape with like all these. He'd be so like, yeah, into probably all these different strains of weed and stuff. Yeah, he's such a stoner at heart.
Speaker 4Yeah, all all that shit. Yeah, all that. Well, you know whatever Psychedelics, mushrooms, shit like that, that's kind of what that shit. I think he was part of that. Yeah, I'm not. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2That's a good story.
Speaker 4Good times.
Speaker 6Sorry, I got a little reverent there.
Speaker 2No, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 6Like you know? No, it was tough, tough times.
Speaker 4What do you mean? Irreverent Go ahead. What do?
Speaker 7you mean no, I can be irreverent dude, I have to.
Speaker 4Irreverent, not irreverent. Oh okay, I heard you wrong, dude, I apologize.
Speaker 2I can do either. Yeah, so that was this, and uh, you know it could be, it could be any one of us tomorrow, and uh, so we just gotta we just yeah, we talked about well, we're gonna put it all together, some of this stuff too.
Speaker 4It's probably more than one thing her talking about this building, but we talked was a lot too, but we talked about, you know, draper and the incident, the accident yes or, uh, just about Draper and us earlier.
Speaker 2What they you know, just stuff, yeah, she's supposed to move, she's moving.
Speaker 4Yeah, she's moving to Tennessee, so that's the reason we were prompted to go to her first. We talked about different things to talk about and we were prompted she's supposed to move the 16th. Yeah, 16th of this month, she's moving to Tennessee with some of Benny's relatives, nieces and stuff that are hey, they're just going to take her in.
Speaker 2And why not? Well, because she said their father passed away, yeah, they've got some other stuff.
Speaker 4They're having problems and they just want to take her in she don't want to be.
Speaker 7I don't know if I've even spoke to her in years and years and years.
Speaker 6I saw her at Walmart about two years ago and I spoke to her for you know three or four minutes, you know just pleasantries.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 6Hey how you doing. What are you up to? You know she was mainly asking me, you know.
Speaker 4But I just never saw her Well truthfully, I ain't talked to her a whole lot. I talked to Benny a lot more. She usually sat back and stayed in the car or whatever, and I seen Benny more and would be high and by. I might go to the car and talk to her until Benny died, and then I've seen her a lot. She'd call me, I think. I don't know what to think, but anyway, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 4I've been a lot closer to her since Benny died. She calls me for probably a week or two, yeah.
Speaker 3And I'll go by there.
Speaker 4I'll take her a few things. She'll just call me, I think, just because She'll want some simple things. Give me a loaf of bread, some Pepsi and some water, you know? Okay, I'll be there later. She keeps nine-hour hours. Like Draper did, she stays up late. Yeah, like Draper did, she stays up late. She's still like that. I think she's different.
Speaker 2She even said because we got her on here to talk about Drape and then just talk about the whole situation with Zach and the stuff he'd been going through. So she really shed some light on some of them things with Zach, because he had some questions that he asked her and she really, I mean, when he left here he's like got better.
Speaker 4but I think you knew some of those, didn't you remember you'd ask her some of those questions you didn't answer to, didn't you? Yeah, but you could confirm?
Speaker 2yeah, like there's some questions he had and she confirmed some of that you gotta hear yeah it confirmed that it will never get better.
Speaker 5That's right, that's right confirmed that what
Speaker 4it will never get better. Some of the stuff, yeah just deal with it.
Speaker 5It comes in waves yeah, yeah, catch you right out of the blue.
Speaker 4Yeah, oh, yeah as far as talking about Lost and things like that. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2so now you know for Zach, he can be like okay, well, we know this shit it helps to relate it off another human being.
Speaker 7It's not that different.
Speaker 5No, it's not. It didn't shed any light on it, it just confirmed it.
Speaker 3It is different. No such thing as happiness anymore.
Speaker 4Yeah, you have new definitions of all your words.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 4Pretty much.
Speaker 6You have new definitions of all your words.
Speaker 5Yeah, you got it, brother, I've realized the parallels until just now, man, he cut out real bad there, buddy.
Speaker 6What'd you say? I said man. I'm sorry dude, I didn't realize the parallels until just now, man.
Speaker 2Really, oh no, we're not trying to. No, no.
Speaker 6We're not trying to no, no, no, we're not trying to no, no, we're not trying to no, no, no, I know, but man, I just you know.
Speaker 2No, we're not trying to hide nothing. We're just talking, though we're out there dude, we don't know what this is.
Speaker 4We can edit. You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 5No, it didn't hurt you.
Speaker 3You didn't hurt a thing, Sam.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's funny, that's kind of you can't hurt that, I was just being sincere with you. You know, there's no you, there's no hurting me anymore. You know, yeah, it's, it's we're we're not, we're just trying to help. I mean when, right, yeah, they, you're going to hear the reason why we started this podcast, because we recorded that in a previous episode. Yeah so, sam dave, we, we talked about the story that started this whole thing. The very first episode. It was Christmas Day, yeah, yeah, but anyway, you all have to listen to that and everybody has to listen to that, because that's what started this whole thing.
Speaker 6Hey, I've been through my own traumas, I know, yes, hey, we all have.
Speaker 2We're not trying to shed light on anybody saying this is his worst and his. We've all been there, bro. No, no, no I know that.
Speaker 6Yes, for sure.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, we're just trying to help yeah, we're just trying to do this to help each other, bro. I know this, is it positive love? All throughout man man, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3We're just oh absolutely.
Speaker 5Yes, I'm just trying to figure out who's going to be doing the skiing. You know who's going to be doing what the skiing? You know that's an old joke, bro. Yeah, that's an old joke. You know, it's like who's going to drive into the gear shift, you know?
Speaker 2Anyway, so yeah, this is not. It's not going to be all sadness and sorrow and sad, you know, on here crying.
Speaker 6No, I mean listen, with everything. That's a little sad, right? So like we're talking about drape and like there's some sad things we can say, but like 99 percent of what you can say is like happy and good memories.
Speaker 2Yes, exactly that's what I'm saying. We're not just going to focus on one yeah absolutely we're going to shed light on the both sides of the situation, good and bad, because there's air again there's another one of those that's like experienced a lot of the best.
Speaker 2I mean, I try to remember the good man that's what keeps me through the days right for sure, and that's that's another reason why we're doing this and we're talking about drape today because we're remembering some of the things we remember about it you know, in his life that we remember, how we remember it, because who's going to tell it?
Speaker 2he's not here to tell it there, there's no, there's no one there to tell we are here to tell his story for him, because we lived through it with him, and so we're telling our stories that, in total, create his life. That's what we're trying to do. Right, absolutely that's what we're trying to do here, and not just with drake. We're not saying we're just going to do it with people and, uh, I like it.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's all we're doing, man we're just trying to shed light on people, to remember them by this we got a richie bradley episode yes, sir yes, hey, we have some common point of view.
Speaker 4We all have our each and all our perception, but in the piece of view, our point of view that we can share, oh, absolutely Exactly.
Speaker 2And so that's why, we called y'all today to get y'all's insight on Drape today, and so, yeah, we have our own stories about richie and tony and the other people in our lives that let's record that shit.
Speaker 4Hey, some of us don't remember as well. We're getting old. Yeah, we gotta write that shit down yeah, so we're just.
Speaker 2This is how we write it down oh yeah, y'all are real old yes, I mean hey, I got memory problems so we don't write it down with hand, we put it on this little memory card right here. We got a copy of it. You wouldn't believe when I write down. We're too lazy to write, so we're just going to record it all.
Speaker 4Nobody can read my writing.
Speaker 2Yeah, this way you might not understand us when we play back.
Speaker 7That's how you got to be Earl in the first place.
Speaker 2That's true. You wouldn't believe me now.
Speaker 4Oh, I used like three kinds of shorthand.
Speaker 7Calloway Wade. Calloway couldn't read Eric and he said Earl.
Speaker 4Over and over and we just stood there like I was like mouthing them all. There's no Earl here.
Speaker 7Do you know an?
Speaker 4Earl in Chillicothe Go, look at who wrote this.
Speaker 7My granddad, earl McGee, my granddad.
Speaker 4That was the only Earl in Chillicothe at that time, and that just stuck, forever it stuck for a good while amongst many people. That's what we were talking about the other day. I don't go by my name a lot, but that's what we were talking about. A lot of folks on Earl, I believe Pitts came up with the Colonel and I went by that with a certain crowd. I walked in a certain crowd as the Colonel.
Speaker 7He texted me earlier. He said do you have the colonel's number? See, I knew it. And I was like yeah. And then he was like that's when he said I want to, that's another time.
Speaker 5Remember we were in a hot spot.
Speaker 3We were in a hot spot, Bob Marley.
Speaker 7Draper Earl's my next best spot and is my next best spot, and I was like it's weird that you say that, because we're just about to have a call about great it's so weird.
Speaker 5Yeah, I had to get that on. We were in Holiday on a basketball game and talking about people getting called different names, remember that One of their coaches came in after the game and we beat Holiday when we were all on the bus and they came in there and the coach goes. Anybody on this bus named McFly. We got a senior ring. Mcfly senior ring I don't know McFly, let me look at that. Hell, that's my senior ring. Let me have that. I don't know who's found it in the stands. Mcfly Good name.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 5All this shit is just. You know, me and Chris we have the problem with we can't remember shit. Our memory is terrible. I don't know what caused that. We never learned the difference between an enzyme and a hormone. You know the differences, right? You can't hear?
Speaker 6I've never heard of an enzyme.
Speaker 5You can't hear an enzyme. That's right.
Speaker 7So Eric had all of Chris's stuff. Benny and Sharon gave it to him. So I had all of Chris's stuff. Benny and Sharon gave it to him. So I had gotten Drake's little 25 pistol and then that black Onyx ring that had a diamond. So, Eric, let me keep those. And of course Draper loved that 25 pistol. I mean, he carried that around everywhere.
Speaker 6Oh, I've got a story about that, the pistol.
Speaker 7Go ahead, A pistol yeah a pistol, my house got broken into, though, and they stole that gun from me, and then Arlington police recovered some of the guns, but they never got that gun back. I was always so mad because, even though that was like a $50 gun, it was the cheapest gun I had. That's right.
Speaker 4I just wanted something new.
Speaker 7I was like no, that thing's invaluable to me. So I went to Marcus Givens had a 70s party like two weekends ago, and so we had these 70s costumes. So I got out all my old jewelry and everything and I got Drake's ring and I wore it and that's the first time I've worn it since I guess since he he passed and I wore his ring 20 something years. Yeah, yeah, I don't have the gun, but I do still have that ring, right yeah.
Speaker 2I got. I got a lot of pictures. I got some.
Speaker 7Oh, I got a bunch of pictures, cause I got all the ones of when we lived in Lubbock. Yeah, I got a few in Lubbock, really.
Speaker 3I've found a few.
Speaker 4I can't find all mine.
Speaker 3I found man, most of mine look like trash.
Speaker 4I found that one, though there's a couple cool ones, and most of them are trash.
Speaker 2I wish dude me, him and Tony Bradley. I don't know if y'all heard this story, but me, drake and Tony Bradley went to Lubbock to visit I guess, maybe to do a college visit and we went to the Lubbock Mall and they had like a little recording studio in there where you could record music, like you know. And so you go in there and you pick your song and then you sing it, and so we go up there and we pick out Ice, ice Baby from Vanilla.
Speaker 3Ice, yeah, and we recorded that bitch and it was like yeah, but we pick out Ice, ice Baby from Vanilla. Ice yeah, and we recorded that bitch and it was like yeah, but you still got it. No, I remember who starred in that.
Speaker 4You remember who starred in that?
Speaker 2That was Tony Bradley's moment. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7It was real good. I still remember it, tony.
Speaker 6Bradley.
Speaker 7Yeah, he was like he was like damn Russell speak of, he was doing it in like the real deep voice. He was on beat and on point good, I was like. Draper can rap.
Speaker 2Yeah, if I had that still. Probably the best of y'all three. Hey, I just wish I had that Tony was singing like a country song. That's another reason.
Speaker 7That's another reason why we wanted to record some of this I can still, to this day in my head, remember.
Speaker 4I can hear it.
Speaker 7Then on that second part he's like damn, I'm about to see that, boom, I'm killing your brain. That's slow he was doing it in that real deep voice that he had.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was slow.
Speaker 2And when we recorded it we didn't get to practice or nothing, it was just straight in there.
Speaker 4It was a mall recording. Yeah, how much did that cost? I don't even remember.
Speaker 2I wish I would pay. I would pay a lot of money for that right now. What year would that be? You made that recording. What mall? Lubbock, lubbock. Yeah, I would take as much money as it took to have that right, I had a copy of it at one point, damn it.
Speaker 7That's what I'm saying like that's something on a track or no, it wasn't a track, it was on a regular cassette yeah, it's a regular cassette. It was like I had a copy of it. I dubbed it dude.
Speaker 2I used to I used to make tapes back in the day. Y'all remember I'd make the mixtapes. What I damn sure do remember that oh yeah, the double deck red red you had the double deck Red red wine.
Speaker 4I had the double deck the double deck recorder.
Speaker 5Red red wine all over the place.
Speaker 2Hey, that was the best thing I ever seen in my life Double becker, yeah Tone low.
Speaker 7Hell yeah, I remember that Was it your mom or somebody? So you went to Houston, yeah, and you came back and you knew all about the G boys.
Speaker 2Oh shit, I just recorded the radio like 24 hours before the radio.
Speaker 4Let's record off the radio and then make copies of that.
Speaker 5We were just listening to that earlier, very illegal Before that?
Speaker 7we didn't really know, I guess, but you know, I mean, I didn't really know that really that many rappers were in Texas.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4Everybody was in.
Speaker 5California or New York, that we were dubbing shit.
Speaker 4I didn't know that I was at 86, like in sixth grade dubbing tapes.
Speaker 5Except the Beastie Boys.
Speaker 4Dub that and give it their break.
Speaker 5I did, I'm not going to lie to you. We have to be me and Dave. We've been friends a long time but we've got to be on the same kind of spinal tap, vibration or some shit, because I just played. You said the Ghetto Boys. I was showing Chris, this speaker, that's. The song I played was the Ghetto Boys, that's crazy. How many times in your life have you played the Ghetto Boys in the past 15 years? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6I'm probably going to play it again. I'm sitting alone in my four-cornered room staring at candles, that's exactly what I play.
Speaker 2Just put it on there.
Speaker 7Yeah, Chris came back with that.
Speaker 5We're going to have to house break, Earl rappers and actors that are actually good.
Speaker 7That's right.
Speaker 2Like I said, I just record straight radio. They're like after midnight. They'd be like okay now. Welcome to the 12 o'clock, smooth blues, you know, and they play like the slow music.
Speaker 7Of course I had to record that, because I just hang out in his apartment over there.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2What year was that?
Speaker 7That would have been like 97, 98, still at Midwestern. I'd come home every other weekend, something like that. Them were the days I'd go up there and if he wasn't at home I would just I knew he would be. He was either at home or L&M. I knew that I'd go up to L l m and he's like, all right, here's the key, go in there and you know I'll be there here in like an hour or so. Another thing that was funny is when we went, when we me, him and earl uh in lubbock we got real big into going back and watching all the old chevy chase movies, so like Fletch and Vacation and all those. This is the first time that you ever watched those movies stoned it's totally different.
Speaker 7It is a little different Drake had when he moved he met a guy that worked at the United, so now we had a way to actually get something. But before we didn't, I think before we'd have to bring it from Kilicop and so now we could get some. So that was like our thing. We would go rent all the old Chevy Chase movies and, man, we would just like smoke out and watch those and just die laughing. Yeah, just laughing nonstop.
Speaker 2So, yeah, that was another reason why we was doing this stuff, man, we just want to laugh sometimes and talk about them stories, because laughter is a good medicine.
Speaker 7I'm trying to think because I have pictures in my mind of Drape, when you get on one where you can't stop laughing, even if it's something stupid.
Speaker 6Oh yeah, what about the picture that I have in my mind when you get on one where you can't stop laughing, even if it's something stupid? Oh yeah, you know what about the picture that I have in my mind about when you and drape and Earl lived together I didn't know about it, but y'all live together and love it and there's a picture of Eric on top of like 400 bags of trash that y'all had taken out of your apartment for the first time in like six months or something.
Speaker 7A couple of weeks ago I got drunk and got all them pictures out and Wendy was like living, like that.
Speaker 4Like this is a different time. We turned it around.
Speaker 2It was a different time.
Speaker 4No, that stuff kind of happens to me that picture was y'all cleaned up for that leather party?
Speaker 5Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4No, I think that happened somewhere in between, because we just had broken chairs and shit from that and that trash.
Speaker 7Yeah, we got to thinking that it was cool to not clean up at all.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's like let's see how bad it gets, like we had like a pyramid of trash. Let's build this out of. You know like we had a picture of that.
Speaker 7Natural lights, Bobby Briggs, I think he was in a fraternity or something. So Bobby Briggs would randomly show up at our house with people we didn't know he was like. No, I just wanted them to see y'all's apartment man. He thought it was like the coolest.
Speaker 4Yeah, well, we had other shit. I had them other pictures too. You got to come see their apartment. The stop sign the. Hardeman.
Speaker 3County line apartment.
Speaker 4The stop sign the Hardeman County line yeah, Toss-ups 39 cents.
Speaker 3I got that one not too long ago, you remember.
Speaker 7I believe it says toss-ups 39 cents. They were mad about us having that Hardeman County line. That was the cops, yeah they came in.
Speaker 4They couldn't really do nothing, so they said hey, y'all got to do something. Those signs you're not supposed to have. Those. They were like federal property or something they did. They hid behind a dumpster back by the Quickie Mart, wasn't it?
Speaker 2I wasn't there.
Speaker 3What did they call them?
Speaker 4The Quickie Mart, wasn't it? What were those? Yeah it was the Quickie Mart.
Speaker 7The Quickie.
Speaker 4Marts. Something like that, and the dumpster was between us and there was a quickie mark behind us.
Speaker 3He was running down the road. He was the one that punched concrete, also sprinting down.
Speaker 4I'm trying to think what road that would be Behind Coronado. Coronado had their practice field and track was behind there. Then our apartments faced that. What was that? 34th and Toledo?
Speaker 5I couldn't tell you I didn't know I was that fast, did you? I remember that was well after high Toledo.
Speaker 4I couldn't tell you Toledo, I didn't know. I was that fast, did you? I remember no, dude. No, yeah, I did. That was well after high school, dude. You were faster before that, before you blew that knee.
Speaker 5That was crazy.
Speaker 7They went through the streets, zach looked past all of us and caught the dude and like oh yeah, you sucked me up from behind long before as a sophomore, the time you got hurt.
Speaker 4I remember you coming from behind and passing me on the right dude, and then you got fucked out on the sideline.
Speaker 7I remember seeing it, dude Zach, blowing right past me and, like you know, you watch one of those nature videos where the lion finally catches the.
Speaker 5I jumped off the top. I think I jumped off the top of the front of a Camaro.
Speaker 7The old dude was running, looking back and trying to like change sides and stuff, and zach just from behind, just roll on the ground and then you had to fight him again after that. I wanted to just make sure that you actually could whoop his ass right, and you proved that you could right yes, sir, well being the, I'm gonna have to uh, uh, you know I remember Drake was just stomping him and he was like, yeah, I was trying to do like Goodfellas.
Speaker 7Remember he was obsessed with mafia movies. Yeah right, stomping his face. He was wanting to stomp them like they did on Goodfellas, and that's what he was doing.
Speaker 5I just remember that I caught the dude by his hair and I bounced his head off the concrete and he turned around and looked at me and I kicked him in his face. Then I turned around and walked off. Then all I could hear was I still think about that sometimes.
Speaker 7I still think about that sometimes and how stupid or what they were thinking, I don't know what they were thinking, I guess. Obviously they thought that we would be on their side because they're wild.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's crazy yeah.
Speaker 7Why would you have called Anthony the N-word in front of all of us?
Speaker 6This is like our guy dude.
Speaker 5Who did that?
Speaker 4No names no names, it wasn't too long. They thought they can't back up and shit. They didn't.
Speaker 5I remember seeing their eyes, and it was too late. I kind of thought that too. Then the one just went nuts. Yeah, well, you didn't even see.
Speaker 4Teef was quicker than the eye Anthony Jackson was Was right there.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what it started Talking about, that camp jersey, that's right yeah.
Speaker 4And then yeah.
Speaker 3I remember that that wasn't the only fight.
Speaker 5I seen Anthony Jackson like throw a punch and I didn't even realize he did, and the other dude was bleeding. Yeah, I had my hands up between them.
Speaker 4Two or three times but that time was one of them that I just seen that dude like didn't even know what happened. He was trying to talk some shit and the next thing he knew, anthony had a look in his eye and that motherfucker was bleeding. I didn't even barely see him go like that. You know flinch.
Speaker 6I've been on the receiving end of the Anthony Jackson punch.
Speaker 4Yeah, I believe so. I believe I only saw, like I saw, two out of three. He did throw one of them invisible punches on you, pitts.
Speaker 6The only problem with that one is he like swung and hit me in the middle of the head and it broke his hand.
Speaker 7Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4No, you're right. No, I ain't.
Speaker 7Even to this day, anthony's like like man. I never should have hit that big heart what's my car? I don't know but they were making fun of drape because he's wearing that sean kent jersey. Yes, and they called sean kent the rain man well, and then?
Speaker 7r-e-i-g-n. Like rain, like, uh, the rain of a king, not like rain from the. And so Draper went upstairs and got a marker and he wrote rain man on his like inside of his arms, like they were tattoos, and came back down and that like made it worse. And then, um, I don't know.
Speaker 3All of a sudden there was like some stairs you know, I can tell you what happened.
Speaker 5I was right.
Speaker 7The white plastic chairs that everybody has. Yeah, anthony is so mad. He got up out of that chair and grabbed the chair and he was trying to grab it and hit the dude with it, but he was so mad that the chair just broke. He just collapsed. Yeah, he shattered into pieces before he could hit him.
Speaker 5What happened was the smaller one of the two was sitting there staring After all this. He was just sitting there, he was just staring, and he was just sitting there staring at him and Anthony looked at me and said what the flu is he looking at? I said, man, I don't think he's looking at you. He said, man, what are you looking at? And then that's where it went. And he was like you, I was like you, I was like, oh my God, I cannot believe you said that because you were just staring off at that. La La Land boy, biggest mistake you, biggest thing you ever Nah he was just talking shit.
Speaker 4Nah but the thing is he was zoned, bro.
Speaker 5He was zoned like this. It was after the whole fact. He was just side by side and he goes is that a looking at me? I said no he's not looking at you, anthony. He said what the fuck are you looking?
Speaker 1at yeah.
Speaker 7So then, after everything all said and done, everybody left, cops came, all that, everything. Now it's real late. We've all been up drinking the whole time and like me, we're all up, still hype, Talking about it. And Anthony'm like me and Drex, we're all up, still hype. Oh yeah, man Talking about it, Kick their ass. And Anthony's like man. I wish they would have kicked our ass, man, so y'all could shut up and we could go to bed. All night talking about it.
Speaker 4Trying to pull out the main part of the story.
Speaker 7They had Eric's guitar and Eric was yanking that guitar. He was just kicking a dude.
Speaker 4Before that we rolled down the stairs, jumped up at the bottom of the stairs and grabbed my guitar. My bedroom was down there and when he grabbed it I was like no yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah Well, hey, man, we appreciate you talking to you guys, man, and we're fixing to get off here.
Speaker 6Okay, listen, man. And uh, we're fixing to get off here. And okay, listen one more. One more thing we're gonna talk about, right all right bro like if we're gonna talk about drape, we gotta talk about star wars a little bit, because I was a when I was friends with drape man, I was like a 17 year old kid man and I'd never really seen Star Wars.
Speaker 6And Chris Draper dude was like the king of Star Wars he had read all the books, knew all the characters and like, yeah, earl too, you know, but like man, my whole Star Wars existence is traced back to Chris Draper and so, like dude he was, and he also turned me on to Obi-Wan Kenobi, who now is my favorite character in the Star Wars universe of all times. But like dude, star wars was a big thing to him.
Speaker 4yeah, it's a different kind of mythology, it's a different kind of mythology, it's a whole, it's a, it's like a dogma, it's a storyline for a lot of things it is, it's the hero's story? Right, yes, it is. Yeah, it's a classic story, it's a lot of things put together into a modern uh interpretation. There's a lot of things.
Speaker 3There's a lot of people put a lot of things on it.
Speaker 5It's a mix. It is a mix, all right, fellas. You know I love you all right, man.
Speaker 2Hey, we'll holler at y'all some other time. We'll have another, who knows, we might have another call for some other story, maybe saturday night.
Speaker 4Y'all guys ain't busy. It sounds like.
Speaker 2So anyway, bro, we'll holler at y'all later man.
Speaker 5Appreciate it. All right, see y'all later.
Speaker 1See y'all later. Well, I could see the desperation in his eyes, each deep breath it took for him to breathe, and every word he said hit home with me. I felt like a blind man, could now see. And then, the more I'd stare, the more I realized that the man standing there in front of me, hell, he was just a reflection of me. I said just a reflection of me. You see, I lost my wife.
Speaker 1I couldn't stop getting high and the lights caught up with me and when she left she took the only thing that meant anything to me and with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine, this year she turned three. You better grab a hold of something, close something, rather hold. You don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, because it might be a reflection of you, of you.
Speaker 1You see, I looked at myself in the mirror For the first time in a long time today and I had to take a step back Cause I swear I didn't recognize my own face.
