E-8-Small Town Stories: JT's Deportation & His Return to Texas

Some friendships transcend time and distance. In this nostalgia-soaked reunion episode, we connect with JT Thompson, who joined us from Scotland to recount his journey from British schoolboy in 1980s rural Texas to his current life as a deep-sea diving technician in the North Sea.

The conversation flows like the bottles of vodka we reminisce about—with pour tops removed for maximum effect—as we travel back to our teenage years in Chillicothe. JT takes us through his arrival in fifth grade, his struggles to be understood through his British accent, and the gradual way he became part of our small-town tapestry. Through stories of campouts gone wrong, cars with mysteriously failing axles, and late-night escapades that somehow never ended in serious trouble, we recreate a world before cell phones documented every misstep.

The narrative takes unexpected turns as JT reveals how the aftermath of 9/11 changed his American trajectory forever. After losing his job at a travel agency, encountering legal troubles from a DUI, and watching his car mysteriously burn "to a husk," he found himself returning to the UK—only to discover he couldn't easily come back due to outstanding warrants. What followed was years of legal limbo before statutes of limitations finally cleared his path.

Today, JT leads an extraordinary life maintaining pressure chambers on deep-sea diving vessels, working month-long shifts across the world's oceans and encountering adventures in places like Norway, Vietnam, and the Congo that are somehow even wilder than our teenage exploits. His global perspective brings new color to our shared childhood memories and reminds us how differently life can unfold from the same starting point.

Whether you grew up in a small town, navigated life between two cultures, or just appreciate authentic conversation between old friends, this episode captures the special magic that happens when paths diverge but stories still intertwine. Subscribe now to hear more unfiltered conversations that bridge the gap between who we were and who we've become.

Transcript

Reconnecting with JT

ZACK Flynn 0:42

And with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine. This year, well, she turned three. You better grab a hold of something close up. Grab your hold of you and don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, Cause it might be a reflection of you. I said it might be a reflection Of you.

BUCKY 1:21

Alright, coming to you live from the old, abandoned Chillicothe Hospital, chillicothe, texas. This is the B to the E to the Z, and that is Be Easy. Be easy, baby, that's what we're here for. When he came here what do you remember?

BUCKY 1:40

Yeah, just.

BUCKY 1:40

Chillicothe. When did he move here? I'm going to say he's about fifth grade or sixth grade?

BUCKY 1:44

No, no, no, he wasn't here in elementary like a year or two. I'm pretty sure I remember him coming that right in fifth or sixth dude so we're gonna ask him about coming to school with chelsea.

BUCKY 1:54

But how much of that do we want to hit on before we just go to?

BUCKY 1:57

great. Well, a little bit, just kind of introduce him did he play football?

BUCKY 2:00

no, no, he never played.

ZACK 2:02

No sport I think he got here in junior high, maybe I swear, I remember him coming in elementary, I don't remember him in sixth grade Because he talked real funny.

BUCKY 2:08

No me, neither.

ZACK 2:09

I don't remember him in sixth grade man, I even thought it was fifth. For some reason we can ask him hey, you fat bastard.

BUCKY 2:16

I remember him talking about.

BUCKY 2:17

He called it primary. He was still in primary. I'm watching the answer now he got drunk.

ZACK Flynn 2:27

It's nighttime there.

JT 2:29

No he wasn't before, but now he did probably Hello, hello, you drunk bastard. Who am I speaking with?

ZACK 2:38

Not yet, not yet.

ZACK Flynn 2:40

Not yet you working on it.

ZACK 2:41

What time is it there Not yet Six hours in front of us Quarter to nine.

JT 2:47

Okay yeah, quarter to nine. I thought you were six hours behind me, but it's only five. Probably we ain't sprung. Well, it's due to the daylight saving time, right now.

ZACK 2:56

That's the only reason.

JT 2:57

Right.

ZACK 2:57

We are six hours sometimes.

BUCKY 2:59

Yeah, yeah.

BUCKY 3:00

There you go.

BUCKY 3:01

That good.

JT 3:08

Yeah, good, yeah, it's better you hear us.

BUCKY 3:09

Okay, jt, yeah, yeah, I can hear you, you all there now.

JT 3:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're jt I guess about you already, but justin bamforth thompson, that's right introduce yourself, jt, and everybody know who we're talking to yeah, you can't give my full name, though we don't need people tracking me down.

ZACK 3:26

No, it's too late now.

JT 3:29

People don't need my middle names.

ZACK 3:30

Well, I didn't throw your last name in there, so it's like you know it would be five. So what year did you get here in Chillicothe? What year did you move to Chillicothe, texas? What grade were you in I?

JT 3:44

got there in 85.

ZACK 3:47

Fifth grade Uh-oh Earl's right, I would have lost that bet.

BUCKY 3:51

We talked about that before you came on and Earl was like fifth grade, we're like no, I don't think so.

ZACK 3:55

I was like a junior high. Yeah, you didn't notice him.

JT 3:58

When did you think I got there?

ZACK 4:00

I thought seventh grade that's great.

BUCKY 4:04

I don't think he's. I was off by a mere two years he didn't speak English until seventh grade is what it was is that what it was he?

ZACK 4:10

spoke, he spoke he spoke real English until yeah, he spoke old English yeah nobody understood me for like a year yeah there's gonna be people out there right now that's gonna say they don't understand you right now. So speak as texan, as you can, you're probably right yeah, you're probably lucky.

BUCKY 4:29

He's been to texas this recent. He has got a little yeah, the visit to texas.

BUCKY 4:34

How long had you been before you've been over in the states?

JT 4:40

how long have you been since what?

BUCKY 4:41

you've been in the States. When the last time you came to visit.

ZACK 4:44

What year did you leave?

JT 4:46

Oh well, I left just after 9-11. What was it 2000.

ZACK 4:56

I can't remember 2001. One or two 2001., yeah 2001,.

BUCKY 5:01

yeah, you got rounded up in that 9-11 shit. It was after what.

JT 5:08

Yeah, it wasn't too long after the Twin Towers went down.

BUCKY 5:11

Yeah, that's the reason. Yeah, that has something to do with it, doesn't?

JT 5:15

it. I mean no correlation, obviously.

BUCKY 5:17

Yeah, not that way no absolutely.

ZACK 5:20

not Only Twin Towers he took down with some tombstones.

ZACK Flynn 5:23

Only twin tires. He took down with some tombstones.

ZACK 5:30

That's a story for the later part of the story, the Volvo.

JT 5:34

Later part yeah.

BUCKY 5:36

Yeah.

JT 5:38

Yeah. So, what's up, you boys hitting Joe Rogan numbers yet, or what? Oh yeah.

ZACK 5:41

We're getting there. We just did. We're climbing, baby. We're climbing the charts.

BUCKY 5:43

We're on pace for that. That's what we're getting there. We're climbing baby. We're climbing the charts.

BUCKY 5:45

We're on pace for that, that's what we're working on.

JT 5:49

There's more interest in Joe Rogan. No one's just spouting pseudoscience, bullshit anyway.

BUCKY 5:55

Oh, not yet. We haven't released all the conspiracy theory.

Childhood Memories in Chillicothe

ZACK 6:03

I'm one second away from getting started on this episode, so watch out.

BUCKY 6:07

It's an easy distraction. No, but we was having you on JT because as part of a second episode or a joining episode it's not even the second one when we were talking about Drape.

BUCKY 6:21

It'd be part three actually, yeah just as we were talking about.

JT 6:24

Yeah, part three. Yeah, be part three actually. Yeah, just as we were talking about you know, yeah, part three. Yeah, yeah, I did. I listened to the first two.

BUCKY 6:35

Yeah, cool the first two about drape. But listen yeah they're good.

JT 6:36

I mean, that was two of the four. There's so many. There's so so many stories you could tell about drape. I don't even know where you start.

ZACK 6:41

Obviously you get a sense of some of this well, well, you know we pretty much decided that we're not going to take any cuss words out unless we super drop the F-bomb.

BUCKY 6:48

Yeah, he said Zach, tell me no more Super, drop the F-bomb.

BUCKY 6:51

Yeah, but we're not trying to seed it with that either.

ZACK 6:54

It happens I've had lots of people say that we shouldn't cut the cuss words out, man, because you got Call of Duty. Every kid in the world plays. It says in the game, so it's not nothing that they ain't heard. No, it's not that. We're just trying to be the respectable and prominent and trying to communicate and loyal and honest people. We are, yeah, yeah.

JT 7:25

To be honest with you, it's been good to hear you guys, you know, getting on with it well, that's why we was talking about me and errol's like.

BUCKY 7:32

This is what we do when we hang out.

BUCKY 7:33

Now we just record it yeah, it's a reason to get together too. And it's a reason to get together too. Yeah, like I said, we just started recording, otherwise we didn't hang out already at all, really, I mean know, maybe randomly. Yeah, not on a real routine.

JT 7:47

Yeah, it's a good excuse, isn't it?

BUCKY 7:49

Exactly yeah.

ZACK 7:51

And I'm the only one drinking, so it's not for that.

BUCKY 7:54

You're not going to be drinking that thing over there, you're going to spill your drink again, or you didn't spill it last time?

BUCKY 7:59

Yeah, I wish he was here with us, JT.

JT 8:03

If it makes you feel any better. I'm drinking a Bud Light right now.

BUCKY 8:05

Okay, there goes that.

ZACK 8:07

I'm drinking Deep Eddie's vodka.

BUCKY 8:09

Yeah, he's going hard, jack's going hard. Well, I'm having my sofa.

JT 8:12

You're on the body.

ZACK 8:13

We can talk about a vodka story. I think JT knows all about getting drunk on vodka, don't you? Oh?

JT 8:21

Yeah, I might know a little something about it.

ZACK 8:22

You remember when you popped the top?

JT 8:24

out. We were in high school, when I did what?

ZACK 8:27

Pop the top out the mixer part, whatever it's called, oh yeah, yeah, that slows the pour yeah.

BUCKY 8:34

There's a reason for that.

ZACK 8:36

I'm pretty sure it was called on the tennis court in Chilicothe, texas, yeah, that became a routine after that, Like I didn't know you could do that yeah after that.

BUCKY 8:43

I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, like what. How did you do that?

BUCKY 8:45

The plastic bottles.

JT 8:49

Yeah, that's how you know you got some good. I remember getting. I mean, I don't remember, but I got real drunk the first time I ever drank vodka and stole my own car from. What's his name? Shelly?

ZACK 9:01

Mike.

JT 9:01

Shelly.

ZACK 9:02

Stole your old car.

JT 9:04

Mike Shelly, yeah, Stole my own car. Yeah, he was trying to drive me home because I was too drunk and I talked him into going into Allsup's to get me some Cheetos. And when he did, I jumped in his driver's seat and took off. I know that Allegedly.

BUCKY 9:20

Allegedly. Oh, this is all for entertainment purposes.

JT 9:23

Allegedly. Allegedly yeah. I could either confirm it or deny it, because I don't remember any of it.

BUCKY 9:28

Yeah, that's a good alibi. Somebody had to tell you about it. Right right, Remember the best story when somebody has to tell you like, hey, you remember last night? Nope.

ZACK 9:36

Or remind you about it. Oh yeah, I like the ones when you get told about it the next day. Do you remember walking into Austin with panties on your head?

BUCKY 9:45

No.

ZACK 9:45

Why would I do that? Whose were they, you know? No, that really happened to Chris. I'm just kidding, it was me. Yeah, just a joke, all entertainment purposes only.

BUCKY 9:56

All bad jokes and having a good time.

BUCKY 9:58

None of this is true? Yeah, well, it's all fairy tales that we like to tell each other. They're just the stories we tell Well.

JT 10:08

It's like you were saying, though it's good that you're doing it, because my memory is terrible, so I forget half of this stuff.

BUCKY 10:15

Right. Well, that's kind of one of the main reasons we kind of did it too, because we're having to remind each other we didn't realize how bad our memory was until we tried to to remember some of that shit. We're like what?

ZACK 10:27

yeah, we're having to remind each other a few things. I can remember vividly, like the first time I ever stayed at your house when I was a kid. We got to wrestling and decided we're going to hit each other with pillows. And I went to hit him with the pillow and I knocked the damn light off the damn ceiling fan into the aquarium which busted the aquarium which busted the aquarium.

JT 10:46

So who got mad? Walter, I was going to say it wasn't.

BUCKY 10:49

Jane, it was probably Walter.

JT 10:50

Yeah, we had to come up with some really ridiculous excuse.

ZACK 10:54

I can't remember what the excuse was.

JT 10:56

I think we made some shit up like Zach swung his arm up and he was saying goodbye and the light flew off.

BUCKY 11:02

He was saying goodbye, it was a terrible.

ZACK 11:07

I don't young. Terrible experience.

BUCKY 11:10

That was probably seventh grade yeah that was probably junior high age.

BUCKY 11:12

That's when y'all y'all were hung out a lot at one time.

ZACK 11:15

For years yeah.

BUCKY 11:17

Well, I mean for yeah, then through high school?

ZACK 11:31

probably no two, three years after high school yeah, that's what I mean like through five, six years, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, for sure, and then that's part of well, that's part of talking about jt and chill back to the red lobster days boys.

JT 11:36

Oh yeah, red love I know how to make them biscuits. Oh, I know you do good at that fried mushroom mushroom.

ZACK 11:45

Yep JT had to carry me up the stairs.

JT 11:46

I don't eat black seafood.

ZACK 11:49

I do. I see food and I eat it these days, did you?

BUCKY 11:52

like being a waiter. Well, jt was a pizza delivery dude too. Remember you drove that delivering pizza, driving that old brown car.

ZACK 12:01

I'm trying to think what that car was.

JT 12:03

Yeah.

ZACK 12:03

Right.

JT 12:05

I used to deliver pizza in that car. Tony Bradley sold me.

ZACK 12:10

You're right.

JT 12:11

That red one.

BUCKY 12:12

Oh yeah.

ZACK Flynn 12:14

What was that? Pontiac, pontiac, yeah.

BUCKY 12:17

Yeah.

JT 12:18

Yeah, yeah, I used to deliver pizza to nothing. What was?

BUCKY 12:22

that tan car.

JT 12:23

The tan one, wasn't it? It was a Camry. Yeah, I was going. Yeah, since it's toyota. Yeah, I used to have a camry, but it it broke down when I lived at the motel and never ran again yeah, you drove that in lubbock I don't know me, me and drake were in a snowstorm and something went bang in the engine and they just never ran again benny had benny at the toes back to the uh, toes back to the motel never.

BUCKY 12:45

Yeah, he lived out there with Drake. That's when Drake lived there too.

BUCKY 12:48

So, jt, tell us about what you remember, like hanging out with Drake, or you know, like when you moved here did you hang out with him at all, up from fifth grade to junior high.

JT 13:00

Not so much. I think there was a couple of times I tried to get him to like come over, like during the summer, but I don't think his parents were that keen.

BUCKY 13:10

Right, but they didn't.

JT 13:11

we were new to the town.

ZACK 13:12

They didn't really know who we were, oh them, scottish bastards. You know how that is.

JT 13:15

Yeah, yeah, they're weirdos.

BUCKY 13:18

Yeah, I don't think anybody hung out with Drake, that I don't remember either.

BUCKY 13:22

No, even junior high. No, not really.

BUCKY 13:25

He really was pretty family-oriented.

JT 13:26

Not really younger, yeah.

BUCKY 13:27

I mean I was friends with him as little kids, kind of Like I said we played like GI Joes and shit when we were little bitty and then I didn't like hang out with him again until after junior high, no yeah.

JT 13:36

Yeah, no, he didn't really seem to like to come and hang out.

BUCKY 13:40

Wow.

JT 13:42

Like you know, fifth, sixth, grade.

BUCKY 13:46

They were all guarded, I'd say, I'd say all of them, like Sharon Benny, his sister, all of them. They were kind of guarded, you know, like from the world, kind of. They were skeptical of people For more good reasons.

JT 13:57

You see, now, at the time we just probably thought, eh, you know, but anyway, I mean I knew his sister before I knew him because I used to have that little job at the drugstore.

BUCKY 14:08

Oh yeah, Go on and do that a little bit. I better remember that.

JT 14:11

And Kurt is drug, and that's where Tamara worked.

BUCKY 14:17

Oh, okay, interesting, I forgot about that. See, you're just telling me something.

BUCKY 14:19

I forgot about Totally. I know Forget about things like that.

BUCKY 14:23

The drugstore. What year was that had to?

JT 14:25

be what? 90?, 80? That was probably like 80. 80-something, 80-something, probably 86, 87 when I was working there. No, no, I don't know if it was junior high, I think it was maybe like sixth grade.

BUCKY 14:35

Like what'd you do? Maybe seven? What'd you do? Like sweet and clean up.

JT 14:47

Yeah, weren't back there counting pills. You weren't looking at playboys were you? Well not. While people were looking, I had a couple of men in the back, maybe that's before they put them in plastic it is tamra. Tamra was like doing the drinks and you know they're doing a soda ice cream yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

BUCKY 15:03

That's crazy that they still did that.

ZACK 15:06

They did For a good while. That was pretty cool. I used to go there and get a suicide fool, which is everything they had mixed together, oh wow.

BUCKY 15:13

Or kamikaze they call it yeah it was good, wasn't it.

ZACK 15:15

Yeah, absolutely, that was a good place.

JT 15:17

I remember my mom used to make pies and sell them up there okay, I remember when your mom had that restaurant too. Y'all remember that.

ZACK 15:24

Yeah, the deli.

BUCKY 15:25

Yeah yeah, jane's Deli or something Little Deli, oh, that's right, was that over there by downtown? It's tore down now. It was yeah, Over there by like where. My grandpa was over there Like whatever the movie theater used to be. Yeah, by the park Back around when that gazebo park is. That wind messed it up Too bad.

BUCKY 15:44

What that building? Yeah, the ones that are still there.

ZACK 15:48

Okay, the one with the mural on it, yeah.

BUCKY 15:51

It's messed up. Oh, the front of it's just like caved in Collapsed in About to.

ZACK 15:54

I told them it was going to happen.

JT 15:57

That must have been like our junior senior year, Right Was it when she had that.

BUCKY 16:02

Yeah, we were in high school. I don't think so. I don't remember it that much yeah because I remember being in high school and going up there and eating I don't know yeah because I remember that. It was like a different option for lunch for a while.

Wild Times and Crazy Stories

ZACK 16:11

Yeah, because I ate at your house every day.

BUCKY 16:16

For I think what grade was that I'm trying to think Was that my junior high?

ZACK 16:21

wasn't that I was like it's when you broke your arm. When you broke your arm, what year was that? It was before you broke your arm, actually?

BUCKY 16:32

was that before or after? Pj's cooler you remember pj's cooler? I forgot about phyllis and jane. Had the old nursing home. Yeah, had like a club for kids. Yeah, it did like had couches, and there you go in. There have rooms with video games and rooms with the dance was like a pool table yeah, there was all kinds of shit it was badass.

BUCKY 16:52

Yeah, the eagles nest, yeah kind of, but it had a little more, like I said, because that had rooms. You know, like there was a room somebody was just you could just chill. There was like rooms, just sitting asbestos station, right surrounded asbestos.

BUCKY 17:05

That'll be the tie that binds yeah.

ZACK 17:09

It was PJ's.

BUCKY 17:10

Yeah, that was before Jane's. Yeah, wasn't it? Yeah, that was probably junior high yeah because Phyllis was that her and Sammy.

ZACK 17:19

Dawn and Phyllis got divorced when Tommy was still in high school.

BUCKY 17:22

Yeah, it was probably like when we were eighth grade or something no-transcript.

ZACK 17:29

Yeah, Tommy moved when he was an eighth grader it probably was eighth grade, yeah.

BUCKY 17:34

Wait, Tommy Nichols, he played freshman year. No, he didn't. No, he didn't?

ZACK 17:39

He broke his neck. Oh, he did break his neck, yeah he broke his neck, but he didn't even know it until he moved to Iowa Park. Yeah, I do remember that now oh yeah, yeah, he must have got crack-backed yeah he did.

BUCKY 17:52

I think, so.

JT 17:52

Crack-backed. Must have had Tony Perez during practice.

BUCKY 17:56

No, I seen Anthony Jackson hit him so hard one time. That's probably it, anthony man. Yeah, yeah, because this isn't the whole story, but I'm gonna go ahead and tell it because you didn't start it, yeah. So, uh, yeah, glenn metham's our coach, and so we practiced before the sun came up early in the uh grass right in front of the old gym, right. So, uh, metham, had you know we'd hit like we hit like head up like boom.

ZACK 18:30

Up and Adams.

BUCKY 18:31

Yeah. And so he took the guys that hit the hardest and put them in the side and said this is the hitter's club. If you want to get in, you got to let one of these guys hit you and I remember this one old boy said I want to be in there and he said okay, and Methen said Anthony Jackson, get up there. Anthony Jackson hit him so hard that when he got up he told the coach. He said Coach, I don't think I want to be in this club, no more. And the coach said all right, you go over here.

BUCKY 19:00

He also puts you in kind of little grudges.

BUCKY 19:06

You work out little grudges that way too, like throw somebody kind of luck. Man, that was a pretty good lesson learned that day, yeah.

JT 19:11

I remember when Martinez did that with Jason Miller and Anthony as well.

BUCKY 19:15

Yeah, oh yeah.

JT 19:17

When Jason Miller moved over, he had a bit of an attitude that he didn't really like Anthony.

ZACK 19:21

Anthony and Bobby Briggs.

JT 19:22

He put them in the field.

BUCKY 19:26

He just made them hit each other and so they gave up. Yeah, but Jason Miller was pretty tough too, though he would take the hit. He didn't care. Yeah, yeah.

JT 19:34

They were over there hitting for quite a while.

BUCKY 19:36

Yeah, that's a good thing about football. You can always solve differences like that pretty quick, yeah, yeah, it all gets over.

JT 19:42

Mm-hmm, jason Miller's. It gets over jason miller's no longer with.

BUCKY 19:47

Yeah, I don't think I know that's another reason.

BUCKY 19:48

I don't think there was any issues after that episode on that.

BUCKY 19:50

Yes, jt, you know that. You know that, jt, right, jason miller passed away, right what's that?

BUCKY 19:55

do you know about jason miller?

JT 19:56

passed away probably a year ago now, huh oh, yeah, yeah, no, I did hear that too. Like facebook a couple of years ago, yeah, yeah, it's been a couple years.

BUCKY 20:05

I don't know if I had that.

BUCKY 20:06

I don't know how old we were? We weren't, I guess 40-something. We're 50 now.

BUCKY 20:09

No, I think he was 50.

BUCKY 20:11

Was he 50? Yeah, and it happened.

ZACK 20:14

Was he.

BUCKY 20:15

He was doing really good.

JT 20:15

We're all getting old now.

ZACK 20:16

He was doing really good.

BUCKY 20:28

Yeah, he'd like a story for another day.

BUCKY 20:29

Yeah, yeah, he got out right after high school and like got a job yeah that's what he'd been doing for a while.

JT 20:33

Yeah, yeah, he did a smart thing, unlike me yeah, he went and got a job. I just got I just got drunk for about 10 years right and forgot a lot.

BUCKY 20:42

No, everybody's path is different.

BUCKY 20:45

Yeah.

JT 20:49

Yeah yeah, exactly that's it, isn't it? People always ask you what would you do if you could do it all over again? But a lot of the times you ain't going to be where you are if you do anything different.

BUCKY 20:59

Yeah, yeah, you'd be somewhere different. It might not be the same, it might be better, it might be worse.

ZACK 21:07

Yeah, but maybe I wouldn't have bit somebody and pissed in the cooler in the icebox at one time. You remember that.

BUCKY 21:11

Dave.

ZACK 21:13

Yeah.

ZACK Flynn 21:13

Tell that story.

ZACK 21:15

I was a little bit drunk. I believe it was my 21st birthday and I went out with all the guys from work and I had like 21 shots dude.

BUCKY 21:23

Oh, I think you had mentioned that, yeah.

ZACK 21:27

But by the time the end of the night was over we got to the house jt and david or jt, and somebody had to come down there and help carry me up the stairs. Pretty sure I bit jt then. Then they told me that I pissed yeah, I think so and then I pissed in the cooler. I went to that guy got up and said I had to go to the bathroom, walked in the open the damn ice box, pulled out the cooler, the bottom drawer for the vegetables, and peed in it. I don't know.

JT 21:49

I don't remember. Yeah but not only that. So you were told I was asleep on the floor and you kind of went in there and just started pissing and turned around in a circle like a sprinkler. Like a sprinkler, I knew it was something.

ZACK Flynn 22:04

Wait a minute, I knew it was something.

BUCKY 22:07

I knew it was something, so wait a minute.

ZACK 22:08

I knew it was something crazy. You know what?

BUCKY 22:11

you was. You was doing an original PDD party, or what?

ZACK 22:15

correct him on that.

BUCKY 22:16

Pdd didn't have shit on me, yeah this is oh my god, yeah, that's R Kelly that's right yeah that's many moons ahead of his time.

JT 22:27

Oh my God, yeah, no, we went and picked Zach up from that pool place and we were driving him back in his truck and he crawled out of the truck and into the bed where we were like driving down the highway. He was proper mashed.

ZACK 22:44

I don't remember if that was my birthday or not. Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know it might not have had to be.

ZACK 22:49

He was acting like he was for sure. I also rode down the Midwestern Parkway or Kemp. I got up to pee right there at Best Buy out of the back of the pickup. I was in the back of the pickup, I stood up, I started to pee on the car that was behind us. Somebody slammed on the car that was behind us and somebody slammed on the brakes and of course, I went backwards. I believe that's the same night that Justin, maybe the same night that Justin got kicked out and got arrested and then came back. I don't know if that's the same story or not whatever that is.

JT 23:21

He's the only few people I've seen get kicked out of Maximus. Well, I don't think we got kicked out. Me and Dave were sitting in the car and Dave just turned up a beer right next to a cop. Yeah, the police and I had a warrant out for something.

BUCKY 23:42

Oh, so he took me in. So they took me to the police station.

JT 23:45

Yeah, they took me in and I went in with my pockets chock full of beer. I paid my warrant, then walked back to Maximus drinking beer.

ZACK 23:56

Not even of age, Not even close to being of age right.

JT 24:00

Nope.

BUCKY 24:00

Not at all, and how they didn't check your pockets.

ZACK 24:04

That was a walk too.

BUCKY 24:06

Yeah, that's a couple miles ain't it.

BUCKY 24:08

Yeah Well, it's through town. Yeah, that's a walk.

JT 24:12

Yeah, I got no idea what. They searched my pockets.

BUCKY 24:14

I know, I remember that he just had them like loose in his pockets, cans of beer.

JT 24:21

Uh-uh, I mean it might have been one of those things. I mean it might have been one of those things. Maybe I was old enough, but they wasn't.

ZACK 24:25

Maybe that's what it was.

JT 24:26

So I took all the beer I can't remember.

BUCKY 24:30

Oh, they had y'all pour it out then, or something, or something.

BUCKY 24:32

If you're underage, you pour it out.

BUCKY 24:33

They used to pour it out in front of them, Well remember JT.

BUCKY 24:36

That happened when we went to our senior party. Remember the cops came we had. Remember the cops came and we had to pour all our beer out in the parking lot.

JT 24:45

Oh, what at Cheyenne's?

BUCKY 24:46

Yeah, Cheyenne's.

BUCKY 24:48

It was Cheyenne's Cheyenne Cattle Company.

BUCKY 24:50

I can't think of the name of the place, yeah, and I think he was out there and the reason the cops came in the first place.

BUCKY 24:56

I think JT never got in, didn't he not have an ID and couldn't get in, so you stayed in the. I think something like that, yeah, or?

JT 25:04

somebody. I might have been too drunk to get into Cheyenne's when we got there because I turned away three of them big three of them, big bottles of Crazy Horse yep, that's exactly what it was.

BUCKY 25:13

You couldn't even get in. It was Crazy.

ZACK 25:15

Horse. It wasn't called Big Chief, it was called Crazy Horse it had the Indian face on.

BUCKY 25:21

Stay in the car.

ZACK 25:22

You throw up red shit.

ZACK Flynn 25:23

Yeah man yeah.

ZACK 25:24

Well, some stout shit. They quit making that shit because it was killing people from Chilli Gatling. Well, next thing, you know, you jumped on a train you know what I'm saying? Had horse piss in it, did thinking the train was going to stop, but that train didn't stop, did it James? They jumped off at Iowa Park, moving Him and Larry. They jumped off at Iowa Park, moving Him and Larry. That's crazy. Yeah, they decided they didn't want to go all the way to Dallas, fort Worth.

BUCKY 25:51

Wasn't stopping.

ZACK 25:52

Did not stop, for shit boy, didn't even slow down.

BUCKY 25:55

No, I don't know how fast it was going.

ZACK 25:59

They had so much rash on them. Both of them were fucked up, man. Oh God, Crazy days.

JT 26:07

There were some crazy days.

ZACK 26:10

You couldn't do that shit now, boy?

JT 26:12

I don't even know how I made it this far Right, I know.

ZACK 26:15

It would be documented, wouldn't it? Hell yeah.

BUCKY 26:17

Yeah, it already went viral. Oh yeah, we did.

ZACK 26:22

Oh hell. Yeah, you know my cousin. He was a bouncer on 6th Street when he was right out of high school and he got hit in the head with a tire tool after kicking somebody out. He actually threw out a couple Dallas Cowboys players before and he got hit in the head with a tire tool. I guess that's the price he paid. He worked in Austin on 6th Street, that big jet, yeah. And he came back down here and he had a Mohawk because you know, they had to cut that side of his head where he got hit, yeah. So he just went ahead and made it a full Mohawk and he had fire engine red hair boy.

ZACK 27:00

And we're all sitting up there like we did all the time. Sat there at the new gym at the parking lot. An old cop pulls up. He's drinking that beer. We kind of hit ours. He didn't hide his and he's drinking his beer and he turned that thing up. He said got a beer in your hand. He said I don't know, crushed it on his head, then threw it on top of the gym. He said is it? You have to go see. You know, climb your ass up there and see. And old cop said who in the hell are you? And I had to tell him who he was. We didn't get no trouble for that. I've seen the cop car get taken in jillicothe, texas, and drove around the block and slide back up to the cop.

JT 27:42

Oh, you remember that yeah, that did happen, I remember.

ZACK 27:47

Yeah, I can't remember who it was I can tell you exactly who it was, but yeah, I remember it. He did cop was so mad he go. Hey, you can tell you can tell us, was it chris just cut it out yeah, yeah, it was like I don't remember he jumped in, he jumped into mark william that's it and he went around the block. He came back around the other side of the block with the lights on and slid up to him.

BUCKY 28:14

What did he do when he came back? He was pissed dude he got his mad.

ZACK 28:18

He's just so mad. He got in his car and left. That's all he did.

ZACK Flynn 28:22

Yeah.

ZACK 28:26

Remember when they stole all that Back in those days. No, Remember on fireworks, July 4th or whatever, when they stayed in the apartment right across from David's house, you know, when he stayed over there Then me it was me. Dave, wasn't it you, weren't you involved in that.

Trouble with the Law

ZACK 28:44

I may be For sure, and maybe I don't know, but I got so drunk I passed out early so I got to miss all that part. But I, when I woke up, dude, I was surrounded by ice chest. I mean, just like stacked six foot tall dude, ice chest everywhere bro in that that upstairs apartment. And I was like what the happened here? Boy, that's like stealing a horse in Texas. Boy, you're stealing an ice chest. That was not good, I know, but we got away with that too, not we. I was no part of that.

BUCKY 29:18

Yeah, you just got surrounded by them.

ZACK 29:21

I was implicated, for sure.

JT 29:25

Hey, I'll tell you who didn't get away with that. They kept well, a couple of them kept stealing beers from the Marquarts.

ZACK 29:33

Oh yeah.

JT 29:33

Oh, Marquart, he downed all the beers and filled them up with piss. Put them back in the cooler.

ZACK 29:39

Yeah.

JT 29:40

Yeah.

ZACK 29:41

Yep and they drank them.

JT 29:44

They stole them and found out real quick. Oh my god cold piss.

ZACK 29:50

But you know, you know that, you know they didn't as soon as they popped that they were fucking celebrating yeah, they thought they were onto a winner weiner is what it was. They were were on to a wiener A wiener yeah. Oh man, you know he didn't keep his old two or three inches from the top of the bottle.

ZACK Flynn 30:16

You know, he stuck it all over his arm.

ZACK 30:19

You know he did. You know he did. Kind of lifted a little.

BUCKY 30:22

Got a little more than they were expecting.

ZACK 30:25

They knew him a whole lot better after that.

BUCKY 30:27

They were a lot closer yeah a lot closer. Oh boy, Remember the day.

ZACK 30:34

Is he still?

BUCKY 30:34

alive Mark Ward. Yeah, he is, but yeah, gary, is he yeah?

ZACK 30:40

I thought he'd been gone before her.

BUCKY 30:42

He's still like president of the damn railroad or something.

BUCKY 30:45

Yeah, he still has some job up in there.

BUCKY 30:46

President of the railroad. I mean, he's like way up there.

ZACK 30:48

Yeah, man, that's a good paying job too, boy.

BUCKY 30:51

I mean, I ain't going to say I don't know.

ZACK 30:53

That is the only that's one of the only ungoverned things in the United States of America. Railroad, yes.

BUCKY 30:58

Yeah, I called about a situation one time.

BUCKY 31:03

Well, they have a union.

BUCKY 31:06

Yeah, I talked to the guy.

ZACK 31:08

But it's under government. They can raise their prices if they want to and I asked him.

BUCKY 31:11

I said is there any regulations on this certain thing he's like?

JT 31:15

no.

BUCKY 31:16

I was like what he's like it is not regulated by the government. It's basically the government, yeah, no it's not regulated by less than the companies they just like consolidate.

BUCKY 31:26

Right, right, it's what built the country.

ZACK 31:28

Yeah, absolutely. I used to know a dude by the name of nick nichols that when he pulled up on the scene that uh the uh on the plant or old rig or whatever it was ever, there wasn't no oxygen to breathe because everybody went oh it's railroad commission.

BUCKY 31:41

Yeah, the railroad commission I should say is in charge of like oil and gas he was like the head pinkerton.

ZACK 31:45

He was like yeah the pinkertons have way more power than any regular you know, regular, I don't texas rangers or anything.

BUCKY 31:54

They got it all, but I mean the they even. It's not even really about railroads. The railroad commission, yeah, has control of other, that's right. Yeah, which is the railroad? Yeah, it's on yeah it's the government.

ZACK 32:03

Yeah.

BUCKY 32:04

It's the government, so like.

ZACK 32:05

A division. I know that, I know, for I know the story of Somebody was building some track so they could load cars. Anyway, he made them mad and the price when they called him the next time was like $40,000 more Just because he pissed them off.

BUCKY 32:27

Yeah, they just do whatever they want. Yeah, anyway, yeah, that's a Okay. We get off the subject sometimes, jt.

ZACK 32:36

Well, it's on the subject. It was part of it, yeah.

ZACK Flynn 32:40

It ties in Part of it. We tie it in.

BUCKY 32:42

Okay, so tell us a little bit about.

JT 32:44

Drape we don't know.

BUCKY 32:45

About when you used to hang out with Drape or the first time you remember kind of hanging out or partying with him.

BUCKY 32:53

How would you describe him?

JT 32:56

I don't know. You know, I honestly can't remember the first time.

BUCKY 33:00

Yeah.

JT 33:00

When we hung out and partied, so obviously he started partying with you first.

BUCKY 33:06

Yeah.

JT 33:08

I remember that and I don't know. Was he there that time when we went out onto your land down by the river? Yes, we camped out, had a fire and then, when we were coming home the next day, the axle just dropped off your car.

BUCKY 33:22

Yep, yep, sharon even talked about that, I think. We tried to push the car out of there, axle, just dropped off your car. Yep, yep. Sharon even talked about that. I think. Yes, sir, we like tried to push the car out of there and yeah, yeah, real drunk. I think we had to walk all the way to town, didn't we? Or something stupid.

JT 33:36

I think we walked back to your house.

BUCKY 33:39

It was far enough to your house.

JT 33:41

We were miles away from your house yeah.

BUCKY 33:44

Zach, were you with us that time, you know?

BUCKY 33:48

There was only however many fit in that damn car of yours.

BUCKY 33:50

So it was me, earl Drake.

BUCKY 33:53

I remember that you broke a tire rod or something. Remember who else was it?

BUCKY 33:56

Vargo, vargo yeah.

BUCKY 34:00

There was a Vargo there. Whoever fit in that damn four-door car at least Was it even a four-door car at least Was it even a four-door car yeah it was a four-door car.

BUCKY 34:07

Silver looking. Yeah, it was a four-door car.

BUCKY 34:08

Yeah.

JT 34:11

The whole back axle fell off.

BUCKY 34:13

Yeah, I do remember that.

BUCKY 34:17

I think that's what happened anyway, anthony might have been with us, was he?

BUCKY 34:21

There was probably like six or eight of us.

BUCKY 34:22

There probably was about eight people piled in that car.

BUCKY 34:26

Yeah, I think there was probably.

JT 34:28

Wait a minute, wasn't Ed Urban? There too, everyone else had hot dogs.

BUCKY 34:31

That was a different one.

JT 34:33

Ed Urban brought steak.

BUCKY 34:34

That was a different one he made them, give him some. That was different.

BUCKY 34:37

That was a different one. Hey, that's also the time Because Ed.

BUCKY 34:40

Urban didn't come until we were older.

BUCKY 34:41

Yeah, that's also the time when we all went camping and I don't know if he was there with us, jt, I don't think he was, but I had brought a joint and I said who wants to smoke this with me? And Drake's like I will.

ZACK Flynn 34:53

And I said okay.

BUCKY 34:55

And then I said Draper, you can't smoke that Hell. No, get over here. And so Drake's like he's like okay, he didn't smoke it. And so Drape's like he's like okay, he didn't smoke it. So I sat there in the tent and smoked the m****** by myself, all by myself, and everybody watching.

JT 35:14

Yeah, outcast Rebel.

BUCKY 35:15

Yeah, he wouldn't let nobody smoke it. Like no, you can't smoke it Drape.

JT 35:19

No, but I mean, I do remember that time when we were out there all of us and Drape was there that he was the only one that ended up half naked in the river.

BUCKY 35:29

That is true, we got real drunk. What was we drinking? I don't even remember. Yeah, beer, probably.

JT 35:35

I think it was just beer. Yeah, maybe, yeah we'd just go down there and camp.

BUCKY 35:41

Somebody may have had some vodka and just drink, and then swim and yeah, man, that was fun right there.

JT 35:48

He was always the first dude to be half naked.

BUCKY 35:50

Yeah, we discussed that. Yeah, I think he just downed beers.

BUCKY 35:54

He wouldn't take a drink, he would just down it.

JT 35:57

Yeah.

BUCKY 35:59

Right away.

JT 36:00

Anything beer vodka. Well, I think it's his fault when we were talking about me stealing my own car. I think that might have something to do with Drake, because we had these two gallon bottles of vodka and we ran out of mixers, so everyone else went into town and they left me and Drake with a gallon bottle. Yeah, to finish off, so we drank it by the time they got back, and that's how things went downhill yeah, you drank a little too much that night.

BUCKY 36:31

Yeah, just a wee bit, oh man, yeah, I mean, the bottles were just so cheap, man, you couldn't I mean like 10 bucks you get.

BUCKY 36:45

I think it was less than that. Yeah, it was like seven out of five, I think yeah. A plastic gallon of vodka.

BUCKY 36:52

Yeah yeah, oh man.

JT 36:57

We thought we'd be doing well with a 12-pack of natural light for $5,. So you figured out, you can get a gallon of vodka for $10. Yeah, yep, you can get a gallon of vodka for $10.

BUCKY 37:05

Yeah, yep it just.

BUCKY 37:10

It was an either-or it was different.

BUCKY 37:11

getting drunk on vodka though, because you could not you black out, yeah.

BUCKY 37:18

Well, there was times.

JT 37:20

Yeah, I had a few of those.

BUCKY 37:21

Pass out, but Vodka you just black out and just don't remember nothing yeah, if you were having a party and a number of people, for sure your dollar was better spent on vodka cheap vodka than it was for, like, getting even a keg or anything else easily way easier make basically trash can punch. I don't think we even called it trash can punch then did we just made a punch or something, but it was just like whatever the f**king whatever alcohol red, it was like red punch or something.

BUCKY 37:50

We just had like, we'll make it whatever color real drunk oh yeah, because everybody drink it. You just made it where everybody taste it and drink it. Girls, whatever you know yeah, it was the idea yeah, so jt, you basically don't remember living in america.

JT 38:06

Huh from drinking as a lot of it I don't yeah, alcohol do that.

BUCKY 38:14

Hey, I had some good times oh, yeah, yeah I had some good times.

JT 38:20

I mean, from what? From what I don't remember? People tell me I had some good times.

BUCKY 38:24

Right.

JT 38:26

Oh yeah, that's good, but I mean as far as Drake you know, after he lived in Lubbock and he came back to Chillicothe, I think after the other dudes went to MSU. It was just me, drake, tony Bradley, yeah, I think was really the only ones living in Chillicothe. Yeah, and I was. Drake was living at his staying with his sister, I think. Oh, that's right.

BUCKY 38:52

Later.

JT 38:53

Well, he, yeah, and he just kind of crashed at my house most nights.

BUCKY 38:57

so Is that when you?

JT 39:02

was living at the apartments over there.

BUCKY 39:04

Yeah where was you working at then, jt?

JT 39:08

oh, dairy, queen okay yeah, yeah yeah, I don't forget. When I was, I was the uh shift manager had the keys the peak of my exist, peak of my existence. There had the key what are you gonna?

BUCKY 39:22

it's hot life in chillicothe. If you had the keys to that building.

BUCKY 39:25

That is pretty nice, ain't it?

BUCKY 39:27

Well, Bucky's living that dream. He's got a restaurant. Now he could go up there and fix us something if we wanted.

BUCKY 39:35

Yeah, definitely Off menu.

JT 39:36

Unfortunately. But if you're doing it, Bucky, you're stealing from yourself, though.

BUCKY 39:42

Right. Yeah, it's not just fun, no, it's just access it just happens to be access. Yeah, it's not as fun.

JT 39:49

I was stealing from the man.

BUCKY 39:51

Yeah.

JT 39:52

I used to cook the books there in Oswards, allegedly.

BUCKY 39:55

Yeah, allegedly yeah.

JT 40:00

Well, that's what's his name. I can't even remember the dude's name. That manager, I think that was his name. He used to make me do all the books and all of his work, so I just used to and I doctor him a little bit Make it work. Yeah, make it work For the extra pay that I wasn't getting from him.

BUCKY 40:19

Got tips.

JT 40:20

Yeah, but like you boys say, this is entertainment purposes, oh yeah. To be true, that didn't happen.

BUCKY 40:27

We entertain each other with these stories.

BUCKY 40:29

Yeah, these stories are just so fun and funny. Oh yeah, me and Drake used to work there together. So fun and funny.

JT 40:34

Oh yeah, so me and Drake used to work there together oh that's right, man. I forgot, yeah, bro.

BUCKY 40:42

Yeah.

BUCKY 40:44

Drake yeah yeah. Oh yeah, I remember Drake working there, and then JT too.

BUCKY 40:49

We talked about that. I thought hey, where'd your deal go, bro? Knocked it off. Yeah, yeah, nah, go go bro he knocked it off.

JT 40:55

Yeah, nah, we had a good time working there. Me and Dre both used to kinda cook so what year was that? 97, 98 somewhere in there uh, yeah, must have been around there somewhere had to be cause he. The crash was in 99 right August 99 yeah, so I I mean I was working at GQ up August 99. Yeah, so I I mean I was working at DQ up to about Like maybe 6 months, 7 months, before I went to uh, which town was that?

BUCKY 41:28

Right, so what year was that you think?

JT 41:30

Zach, I can't remember what year did you move, zach?

ZACK 41:33

Uh see, I went to work Cryback in 95. So it's when, david. What year did you move, zach? See, I went to work at Cryback in 95. So it's when David, he finished his two years there, so 97. Yeah, I was living in Wichita at 97.

JT 41:48

Yeah, yeah, sounds about right, huh.

ZACK 41:50

Yeah, pretty sure, because he did his two years or whatever.

JT 41:54

So, that's when you moved there, JT, about 97? Yeah, I moved up there when they moved from the one flat that they had with Willie and Raymond.

ZACK 42:02

Willie, we didn't have no flat with Willie.

JT 42:03

Yeah, we moved to the other place.

ZACK 42:06

Yeah, we didn't have a flat with Willie.

JT 42:07

I came back.

ZACK 42:08

He just moved in.

BUCKY 42:10

He just made his way in, or what? Yeah, yeah.

ZACK 42:13

Yeah, that was, yeah, yeah, uh, that was uh. We went from uh down what were those called? Then we moved to taft apartments.

JT 42:23

I can't remember what the first apartment I forgot all about that apartment being a different apartment, geez yeah, yeah, I can't remember because, uh, I, I lived there after that as well, in my own apartment. Yeah, it had, it had to be.

ZACK 42:35

I got married in 98, so it would have had to have been 96.

JT 42:41

Yeah.

ZACK 42:42

Yeah, something like that.

BUCKY 42:45

So when you moved, Drake was still working at Dairy Queen.

ZACK 42:51

No, when I moved, when we moved. Yeah, maybe he just started. It's when he first got his apartment in there.

JT 42:59

He might have been at L&M.

Life After America

ZACK 43:01

Right. Matter of fact, it was well before that, because it had to be 96. It had to be 96 when I moved 96. Maybe David only did a year. Did David only do a year at Tech? Yeah, yeah, so it was 96.

ZACK Flynn 43:17

Yeah, I think it was a year 95, 96, yeah.

BUCKY 43:21

We're always asking whenever JT moved to Wichita, was Drake still working at Dairy Queen? When he moved Because he was working at Watts, oh, at the very end.

BUCKY 43:37

He had worked at United before that.

ZACK 43:39

No, he lived with Paul. He lived with.

BUCKY 43:40

Paul.

JT 43:43

He worked at L&M for a long time after Dairy Queen. Oh, okay, okay. Well, before and after, didn't?

ZACK 43:47

he. Well, we say a long time.

JT 43:49

Yeah, because when I lived in Wichita and I used to go back to Chillicothe, I would spend the night at Drake's and he worked at L&M at that point.

BUCKY 43:57

Right, I think he did it one time and then came back there.

BUCKY 44:00

Yeah, he did come back.

BUCKY 44:01

Went there more than once. Because yeah, he also I guess, right out of high school he went to work Him and Paul lived in Vernon, right behind.

JT 44:16

United, yeah, yeah.

ZACK 44:17

That's where the very first time I ever smoked weed was and I pretty much paralyzed me. I was laying out and underneath the tree outside in an ant bed and they came over there. They said man, you're laying in the ant bed. I said I know it, they're biting me. I just still couldn't move. Yeah, right in the middle of a red ant bed.

BUCKY 44:31

Man, that ain't bad man Toasted boy, it happens back in the day.

ZACK 44:40

Back in the day.

BUCKY 44:40

That was it.

BUCKY 44:41

That's why you remember it. Yeah, that's the only part you remember, huh.

JT 44:45

That's the only part I choose to yeah, man, we had some good fun being dry. Tony Bradley, we got out to some nonsense people probably don't know about.

BUCKY 44:56

Oh yeah, I already know tony badly skulking around in the country.

JT 45:01

I remember tony badly stealing like a tractor once and chasing me and draping it oh my god, I believe that yeah, and I was like well, I tried, it was like a digger, oh, you know I can't, I can't write, you know. You know that back, you know that back road that you uh go towards joe bob's house yeah, dirt road, the sandy road yeah, yeah, that dirt road and right when you cross the railway lines there's, like some I don't know if they're old grain elevators or whatever on the left hand side we were digging around there one

ZACK 45:32

night at the time. No, this boy green, wasn't it no, probably, I don't know that's when Joe Bob lived over there.

JT 45:40

I remember the lights coming on and the engines firing up and the digger coming out yeah, it may have been county shit yeah, tony liked to, he liked the trouble.

BUCKY 45:55

Kind of found him quite often.

BUCKY 45:59

Well, that was kind of one of those I forgot about that.

BUCKY 46:01

And it's always the cops coming. Man, I'm like dude. Every time I'm with you, I get the cops called on me for something. Like always, I moved down here, maybe, huh.

ZACK 46:10

What state was it? Iowa, iowa, yeah it could have been.

JT 46:14

Iowa. Yeah, I don't know what kind of trouble he was in up there, but he was always in some kind of Dodge City, wasn't it?

BUCKY 46:20

or what was it called Fort Dodge, fort Dodge, yeah.

ZACK 46:23

You got it. Your mind is amazing Parts of it. I can't remember that shit at all.

BUCKY 46:29

I do remember that, but I did not know he was in the. But that makes sense now because, dude, every time I was with him, the cops got involved in what we was doing yeah, I think he did mostly worse shit.

BUCKY 46:40

I think whatever he was in there for was like some bullshit, almost, like it was like shoplifting or something he got in trouble for before, but then yeah. I don't know, he wasn't that even serious he was just in trouble a couple of times yeah, it was like some bullshit the guy Bullshit. They got to make a boy sign.

BUCKY 46:52

Yeah, they try to. Yeah, they don't take much.

JT 46:57

Nah, not really.

BUCKY 46:59

Yeah, I think that's I forgot about that too, but I think I remember that I never went to jail with him, but we got close several times.

ZACK 47:07

Yeah, he ain't never been to jail, have you?

BUCKY 47:11

That was one of the questions we know. Jt has. He already talked about it.

ZACK 47:14

JT has he already talked about it, jt. Well, he didn't. Yeah, I've been.

ZACK Flynn 47:17

Yeah maybe once or twice you spent the night in jail with me.

JT 47:23

Yeah, yeah, most times you do. Now let's clarify I've never been to prison yeah, yeah, yeah in jail yeah that's different?

ZACK 47:32

well, I don't. I didn't remember you spending the night in jail.

BUCKY 47:36

It's hard to not to.

JT 47:37

Yeah, yeah, no but.

BUCKY 47:38

I've done both.

JT 47:40

No, I got Prison and jail.

BUCKY 47:42

No, it got out before you spend the night, I mean.

JT 47:46

I went like at 5 am. No, I did it twice. The time I spent the most in jail was when I got done for evading arrest. Oh, I don't know if any of y'all were at that party.

BUCKY 48:00

Remember some uh, which party was that I had?

JT 48:02

uh, I can't remember. We were at some random dude's apartment. I left to go and get something that was going to take my car and this cop car pulled up behind mine and this dude and like shorts and t-shirt got out and he was asking for my id what town was this?

JT 48:18

I was drunk, I was in wichita okay and I was drunk, obviously, and I'm like you man, show me an id. You got shorts and t-shirt on and he's like ain't the cop car enough? So I was like well, I'm pretty sure you give me a couple of hours, I can get you a cop car that don't mean nothing right so.

JT 48:35

So he was like right, you stay there, I'm, I can call him this in. So I just closed my car door, start walking back, start walking back to the party, and dumped a bag of weed that I had the bushes and uh, shit, man, about 30 seconds, 45 seconds later, there's about four cop cars pulled in. They said they were looking out the window and all they could see were flashlights bouncing in the dark and then a big collision. Yeah, but I got done with evading arrest, but I didn't get done with anything else.

ZACK 49:07

Evading arrest on foot. That was a misdemeanor, yeah.

JT 49:11

Yeah, but I wasn't even running, I was just walking away from it.

BUCKY 49:15

He just refused to go. It's a misdemeanor. No, I'm not going.

ZACK 49:18

For y'all that do not know that, if you ever want to run from the cops make sure it's on foot. That's good information. It is a misdemeanor.

JT 49:23

Yeah, that's good information yeah, it's a good job. I'm a white dude. They might have just kept it there. Well, you know what the police are like, especially in that day and age.

BUCKY 49:44

Not all of them, yeah.

JT 49:46

But they did, they choked the shit out of me.

BUCKY 49:48

I know several different types of police. Well, that was before body cams and dash cams.

BUCKY 49:52

Yeah, they did a little bit more extra.

BUCKY 49:54

Yeah.

BUCKY 49:55

Yeah, they cams and dash cams and yeah, they did a little bit more extra.

BUCKY 49:59

Yeah, yeah, they could. Yeah, they get away with it. Yeah, yeah, there was officer discretion both ways.

BUCKY 50:03

Yeah, that's about the time when cops came out, they started putting on video and they're like, oh shit because it's entertaining god, I mean. You know what the hell well, we're sitting here talking about it, just I know if I say like, yeah, he got taken down in the flurry of flashlights in wichita falls, texas.

ZACK 50:19

I got uh, almost taken to jail. The cops said okay, here's your lucky day, maybe we're gonna flip a quarter oh I use the old uh, coach metham thing. Thank you, tails. Of course you know I won Never lost. It's never lost it never did that year either it damn sure didn't, and I try to tell people that they think it's a joke, and they won every game that year. They lost one, yeah, and by the time I looked and saw that it was on tails.

BUCKY 50:55

they were done gone. Yeah, they were done gone. Yeah, they were done gone. Oh, Wichita County, Maybe they were full it wasn't.

ZACK 51:00

it wasn't Wichita County. It was Wichita but it wasn't the county. Ah, it's back in the day.

BUCKY 51:11

So, Back in the day Back in the day.

JT 51:13

Crazy shit back in the day. Yeah we did a bunch of stupid y'all but you know, hey, that's what country folk do.

ZACK 51:27

Yeah, you're right, that is kind of a country boy kind of way.

JT 51:28

Yeah, I'm sure didn't realize what damn didn't realize what we were doing in the country you you know we did not realize what we were off into.

ZACK 51:35

For damn sure you know, we did not realize what we were off into for damn sure.

BUCKY 51:37

No, it was different world. Oh yeah, I got some serious stories. Besides it being a different time, there's serious stories on that that never be told.

ZACK 51:44

Yeah, I mean, I got some really good stories on that shit I'm telling you right now, but you know it is what it is yeah yeah something's best left unsaid right.

ZACK 51:57

I mean, they would be very entertaining, I promise. Uh, people would be like a whole lot, oh no that explains a lot of shit. Maybe you write a book. Yeah, I already have the title for it. It's called uh, the right ways to do the wrong things. It will be a new york times bestseller. The right ways to do the wrong things. Yeah I've had that title for that for a long time.

BUCKY 52:22

Of course you know it was only the right ways for so long right well, I said different time, different, almost like a different place, kind of you know talking about how things were wild times for a while before cameras and cell phones, yeah, before cell phones they were cell phones, but they were flipped, yeah you get a fuzzy picture yeah, yeah they were flipped right.

ZACK 52:49

I mean, they were when we first the very first cell phone. Well, the second cell phone that I had which was badass, that no one probably remembers but me is a Motorola. It's called a Home and Away, and if you got within so many feet of your house it hooked to your landline and didn't charge your cell phone. But at that time I carried three cell phones, yeah.

BUCKY 53:12

Can you explain?

ZACK 53:13

why, Well, reception sucked Well you see, there's always the one phone that you didn't want anybody to know that you had, but yeah.

BUCKY 53:27

Depends on who's calling.

ZACK 53:30

The thing is is when you turn your two phones off and they call you on that third phone, that's when you begin to wonder how they figured that one out. But yeah, that was a day. I mean, that's a story all in itself, right there, I mean, that is really, and I've been debating whether or not I'm going to talk about that episode or not. I'll let you know.

BUCKY 53:50

What episode is that? Let me write it down.

ZACK 53:52

That's a crazy.

JT 53:55

The third phone probably the craziest day three phones I've ever had being ahead of the law exactly I mean, I think you should I think you should have an episode just dedicated to like just zach's crazy shit yeah, yeah there's one whole episode when you tell stories from zach.

ZACK 54:14

When you tell them, them on the phone, when they tell you that this is the shit's done, hit the fan and you're in the middle of it and you tell them back if you can't tell them about three steps ahead of you. They don't like that shit at all.

BUCKY 54:30

At all but yeah anyway, yeah. Yeah, what you was at that anyway. Yeah, yeah. What year was that that had a law?

ZACK 54:40

Oh well, that ain't happening. But I don't know if that ever happened. I just remember that 1998, in September of 1998, all drug charges went to be the statute of limitations got taken off drug charges to be the statute of limitations got taken off drug charges. So everything before 1998, if you had not have been arrested for it before, then, they could not arrest you for it. It is like a clean slate. In the month of August, I think, I hid the whole month. You know I was not to be found, I promise you. So yeah, that's a true story. Yeah, wild times.

BUCKY 55:23

So that was 98. And so Drake passed in 99. Yeah.

JT 55:30

Yeah.

BUCKY 55:32

So you was in Wichita.

JT 55:33

Yeah, because I saw y'all came up. I was in Wichita for four years Y'all came up to a party yeah, you and Drake Bucky came up to a party. That place I was staying.

BUCKY 55:44

What Not?

JT 55:45

long before he passed away anyway.

BUCKY 55:48

I do not remember that at all.

JT 55:51

It was like a Halloween, like a fancy dress party.

BUCKY 55:54

Huh, man, no, you don't remember it, I do not. No Long time ago it was. There's a lot of things I don't remember.

ZACK 56:04

Do you remember me having to hit two bullseyes there at Clicks to win the money from? Do you remember that? I know you and Dave were there rooting me on, like my, I had my own group rooting me on Seven o'clock in the morning. We're out, we're over there drunk, or whatever it is, because that's the time that I got off work.

BUCKY 56:23

Oh yeah, you cry that yeah.

ZACK 56:26

Yeah, crazy time. That's back when John.

BUCKY 56:31

Madden first came out. The Madden game yeah.

ZACK 56:36

That was probably 96.

BUCKY 56:40

Yeah, I think that is right yeah.

JT 56:41

Yeah, that was the first dude we knew that had a PlayStation. Yeah, I thought I was big time.

ZACK 56:49

I was rich. He was buying all that shit. Cry back. You know why did I need to go to college? Shit, I was making more than you coach. You know shit like that.

JT 56:57

Yeah.

ZACK 56:58

But yeah.

JT 57:00

Yeah, I thought I was making that good money. Had a fancy truck had a PlayStation All the man needs.

ZACK 57:06

That's right, pizza Every day. It's one of the only. You know you come to our apartment back then. You're. You know you come to our apartment back then.

BUCKY 57:22

they were not scared to ask the pizza man delivery guy if he wanted to smoke some weed. So JT lived with y'all. Zach, yeah, yeah, I don't remember coming down visiting much at all.

ZACK 57:31

No, I don't remember you much there either. Eric was there quite a bit.

BUCKY 57:34

Because my kids were real young then.

ZACK 57:40

Eric went to school down there. Right, yeah, right yeah for, yeah, a year or two or something like there was some funny times about that shit two or three semesters.

JT 57:45

Yeah, yeah, that's some funny shit I've had earl, you remember that day you kept trying to turn off the refrigerator because it was making too much noise yeah, everything was uh is that the same day he locked himself in the closet.

ZACK 57:55

Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, I've had some wild calls man, yeah, hey hey, I got a telephone call. Hey, hey, what I said why are you whispering, man? The cops are outside. I said okay, so what's up? Uh, what do I do? What I do? I said just I do. I said just don't answer the door. Man, just don't answer the door. That's when they sent the runner over the damn balcony.

BUCKY 58:27

That was crazy, crazy Like getting ready to tie bed sheets together and go out the window.

ZACK 58:32

No, he just jumped in. I know he just jumped in, it should have. Yeah, oh, corey just jumped in, it should have. Yeah, oh, cory just jumped it right. Yeah, he wasn't hung down and dropped yeah, craziness man, funny as shit remember that I had that dog, that, uh, I had a mini pin and that dude wildest dog man and, if he get, the door was open. It was gone, dude. I came home, man, and that couches were tore up and shit. I just opened the door hell yes, gone.

ZACK 59:03

What god dang. That dog jumped so high he could look through the peephole looking at you, bro. When you come home he'd be jumping. You can see him in the through the windows of the door jumping. Wow, that dog, dude. That dog was evil, tore. All my shit up, dude.

BUCKY 59:18

Whose dog was it?

ZACK 59:20

It was a mini-pen. I can't remember where I got it, where I got it from. Oh, your dog, yeah, yeah, that dog. I had to open the door. That dog was gone. Stay gone, good.

BUCKY 59:38

Be gone. Yeah, yeah, man, I got some serious stories and shit, but that was another time and another place. Yeah, so that was 95 to 98.

BUCKY 59:46

Yeah, what about JT?

ZACK 59:46

What about when you lived in?

BUCKY 59:47

the hood in Lubbock. Remember you used to live over there, across from us.

BUCKY 59:52

In the hood.

BUCKY 59:52

Yeah.

BUCKY 59:53

Yeah, he lived in Lubbock for a while. Yeah, yeah.

BUCKY 59:57

He moved by the time we did, but he didn't live with us. It was before Dave, even. No, it was even.

ZACK 1:00:01

It was before Drave at first you worked at IHOP right, he moved up there.

BUCKY 1:00:05

When GB moved there and stuff.

BUCKY 1:00:06

But you're going to school up there.

BUCKY 1:00:07

He had probably.

JT 1:00:08

No, I worked. No, I worked at a couple of different places. I worked at United for a couple of days. That's right. That's right.

BUCKY 1:00:15

He was selling plasma. He didn't have no job for a while. Remember, you were selling plasma when you passed out at a job interview.

JT 1:00:22

Yeah, I was selling plasma twice. You passed out at a job interview.

BUCKY 1:00:26

I was selling it twice a week. Remember that Twice a week? Yeah, it was like more. He had two accounts. They wouldn't let him donate as much as he was, because you built up, you got like $25, $50.

ZACK 1:00:37

You got a certain amount. Somebody needs some blood.

BUCKY 1:00:39

He went in for some job interview. He had a good chance of getting it, but then he passed out at the job interview.

ZACK 1:00:45

They're like what's wrong with that?

JT 1:00:46

I've been donating People needing some blood and love it.

BUCKY 1:00:54

Wake up drunk after getting the blood they would if they'd have mine.

JT 1:00:56

I just remember that, because all I all I did was, when I got the money was uh, I'd go over to dave and earl's and we'd go get a bottle of old crow now on sixth street.

BUCKY 1:01:04

That was a crow, that was back when it was the strip yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to go way out. There it was sixth street?

BUCKY 1:01:10

it was. Uh. No, it was the tohoka highway in lubbock. I thought the strip was on sixth street, is that? No, I was out in the country. It's before.

ZACK 1:01:13

That's awesome, yeah it was the Tohoka Highway in Lubbock. I thought the strip was on 6th Street.

BUCKY 1:01:16

No, it was out in the country that's Austin. Yeah, it was all the way out of town, dude. It was before Lubbock was dry.

BUCKY 1:01:21

I remember where it's at.

ZACK 1:01:23

It was dry, it looked like.

BUCKY 1:01:24

Little Vegas.

ZACK 1:01:25

All the neon signs. That's where Townes Van Zandt was walking down the hill and the Eagles dude picked him up. Man bars and liquor stores.

BUCKY 1:01:33

That was like the first place. They had big liquor stores like you drive through, like you drive up and drive through Beer barns yeah, first place I've seen those. They had them lined up. Like I said, there was a couple of titty bars. It was out of town. They didn't sell it nowhere, like in a little shop anywhere except for a bar, unless you went in for a drink at a bar.

ZACK 1:01:51

I wouldn't know nothing about no titty bars.

BUCKY 1:01:54

They had them out there. I remember just them being there. I never went in, mm-mm.

BUCKY 1:01:59

Not me, no titty bars.

BUCKY 1:02:05

Well, they still had them in town, but they were different. I guess I don't know why they were out there. Who?

ZACK 1:02:09

do we got in the background? Hold on, hold on hold on Somebody's coughing in the background. Who do we got in?

JT 1:02:18

the background there, Mr Thompson? Nah, nobody here.

BUCKY 1:02:20

Nobody that was him coughing, I think.

JT 1:02:22

Oh man.

BUCKY 1:02:23

No, no one's talking Coughing.

ZACK 1:02:25

Coughing, you didn't cough.

JT 1:02:28

That's a whole other episode right there Choked, I know you heard that that's a whole other episode.

ZACK 1:02:32

I did too. I thought it was him. I did too. I thought it was a female. I thought that I heard that it was a female.

BUCKY 1:02:36

Somebody else was listening.

ZACK 1:02:40

I knew I should have never told any of them stories. Check that WhatsApp. Okay, so the haunting is actually.

BUCKY 1:02:48

Who knows? Unexplainable.

BUCKY 1:02:51

I mean I hear some birds chirping too. It was a call, straight call, I know. Yeah, are you sitting outside, jt, or where are you at? No, no, I'm in the bedroom.

ZACK 1:03:01

Are you on your boat?

BUCKY 1:03:03

It sounds like. Don't you hear birds chirping?

BUCKY 1:03:04

I thought I did a while ago.

BUCKY 1:03:06

I don't know what that is.

JT 1:03:07

We hear like birds chirping or something you hear, geese. Didn't you? Yeah, I lived on a boat for about a year.

ZACK 1:03:17

Yeah, oh, really, yeah, when he was over there, like one of them, long ones a narrow boat in london yeah, huh, yeah.

JT 1:03:21

You can hear the birds, you can hear the geese outside okay, it wasn't a it was a cough.

ZACK 1:03:25

I'm turning around I heard that.

BUCKY 1:03:27

I did hear that cough. We can go back and play that.

ZACK 1:03:29

Yeah, I'll have to listen to the you know what's that place down there where they actually pick the boats up and they put them into the next above river, whatever. It's only way they can do it to move what is that to the locks yeah?

JT 1:03:41

that's badass yeah, it's quite cool to drive in, close the gates and fill it up yeah, so uh, we, we have another.

ZACK 1:03:55

How come you got deported?

BUCKY 1:03:58

Well, like you said, 9-11. The Twin Towers came down.

ZACK 1:04:00

I know, but I couldn't remember the exact reason why, what the trouble was that he got deported.

BUCKY 1:04:04

He already had a warrant, like parking shit, wasn't it? Like he never paid some parking tickets and he had some crazy shit, Wasn't it?

JT 1:04:11

No, no, no, no, no, it was a DUI. No, no, no, no, no, it was a DUI.

BUCKY 1:04:13

Oh, a DUI, there you go. Well, that's driving.

JT 1:04:18

Yeah, yeah, nah. So it was kind of one of those things where I had the DUI and before I could go, to court for it somehow.

JT 1:04:37

My car caught on fire and kind of burned to a husk Somehow. No true story. True story no, honestly. I was in bed and my flatmate roommate Charlie, came through and she was like dude, your car's on fire. I'm like what I ran outside with like a cup full of water. I was expecting some smoke, you know. No, that shit was engulfed in flames like the whole thing. I just poured the water out, went back inside nothing could be done that was in yeah, there

JT 1:05:03

was nothing to be done I forgot about charlie yeah yeah yeah so that's what, that's what happened there, and then I just had a choice to make. I was like, well shit.

BUCKY 1:05:15

Which car was that?

JT 1:05:16

Where I was working, that was that Pontiac Grand Parisian, the one I got for Ray. Oh, big, long four-door, it was a big boat.

BUCKY 1:05:31

He walked out there with a cup of water to put it out. Yeah, yeah I did.

JT 1:05:38

I just thought she meant something was smoking. I didn't know. The whole thing was going to be in flames.

BUCKY 1:05:43

What caused it to go? I mean just overheated or no, somebody set it ablaze, I don't know, I don't know.

JT 1:05:49

I think someone set it on fire.

BUCKY 1:05:50

Yeah, oh.

JT 1:05:58

Somebody was really trying to get rid of it. Something on the other side of the damn apartment complex was going down. Yeah well, they think it might have been a dude that used to hang around with Dave, and Sam called.

ZACK 1:06:09

Juan, because his girlfriend was friends with Charlie Right. Oh, a little jealousy.

JT 1:06:12

Juan was a bit of a Juan ended up being a bit of a psychopath, yeah.

BUCKY 1:06:18

Was there a window cracked or something? They throw something inside. It started inside the car? Well, he probably never locked the door or didn't lock the door.

JT 1:06:24

Yeah, no, I never locked the doors, because and who would want to steal?

BUCKY 1:06:27

it. Yeah, yeah, hope somebody took it.

ZACK 1:06:29

I've had a few rides like that.

BUCKY 1:06:34

So that had to be what. What year was that? 2000?

ZACK 1:06:38

he burned the evidence in the dui.

JT 1:06:39

That's what happened exactly, yeah, exactly, hey. You know what? The dui wasn't even my fault. So I went to uh, well, I kind of was, but it wasn't well, yeah obviously I was. I was a bit drunk, but anyway I didn't drive there. This girl took me to a bar and she got so drunk she could barely walk, so I had to drive her car home and we passed the cop and she stuck her head out the window and threw up of course, yeah. So then we got pulled over like Like.

BUCKY 1:07:13

Thank you, honey. Right Nobody went to jail, but besides you, right, did she even go to jail.

JT 1:07:20

Yep, that's it. Yeah, I didn't think so I call her a ride, Yep yep, just me Yep. Boy in Tarrant County huh, yeah, I got stung with it.

ZACK 1:07:29

Tarrant County. Yep Woo, not only have you been in jail, you've been to the jail in the toughest fucking jail in the United States of America. You know it's one of them. Damn sure is. You weren't nobody's bitch that night.

JT 1:07:45

I'm just kidding. Well, I was pretty drunk when I went in, but I don't think so. Yeah, you probably never made it out of the drunk tank. It's pretty rough there.

ZACK 1:07:54

Yeah, you wouldn never made it out of the drunk tank. It's pretty rough there. Yeah, you would never plus anybody who knows? Who JT was. He would never be anybody's bench. That was just a joke, All entertainment purposes only.

JT 1:08:05

No, they didn't put me in the drunk tank in that one. They put me in with the proper cells, holy shit. Yeah, yeah, like you would make it out of there with some tattoos and shit. I had like my own cell.

BUCKY 1:08:22

It felt like Oz Passing shit around the corner.

JT 1:08:25

Without the rapings.

BUCKY 1:08:27

That's good.

ZACK 1:08:28

How many guys were you there?

JT 1:08:32

Was that? I think I was just there for a day. I just got someone to come down to bail me out. Damn, I think I was just there for a day, I just got someone to come down to bail me out. Damn. So it wasn't that bad.

ZACK 1:08:42

I wouldn't want to go to Tarrant County Shit and I've been to a bunch.

BUCKY 1:08:47

I didn't want.

ZACK 1:08:48

Nobody wants to go to Tarrant.

ZACK Flynn 1:08:50

County.

BUCKY 1:08:50

He didn't want to go.

ZACK 1:08:52

Yeah, there's a difference.

BUCKY 1:08:54

Damn it. I was forced to go.

JT 1:08:58

Yeah, the story's just kind of a line for me enough, yeah, yeah as it turns out yeah, like he wasn't getting the choices were made paths were taken, wow no, of all the times I've been an irresponsible driver growing up you were trying to get.

ZACK 1:09:15

Yeah, I can think of a bunch of times you were irresponsible, yeah.

JT 1:09:18

You know what I mean, but the one time I'm actually just trying to help someone else out is when I get done.

BUCKY 1:09:24

Yeah, yeah, that's about right. That sounds like what happens.

ZACK 1:09:30

Karma Wild times.

BUCKY 1:09:33

So that was about the end for you. So then you had to decide to pay all that money or go back home, or what.

JT 1:09:41

Well, no, I was just going to. I just lost my job as well, because I was working for that travel agency and the September 11th thing had happened.

BUCKY 1:09:49

Right.

JT 1:09:49

And our travel agency got put out of business.

ZACK 1:09:52

Shit, all of them did.

JT 1:09:54

So I didn't have no car, I didn't have no job.

BUCKY 1:09:56

It's Friday, that's it to do that's it to do.

JT 1:10:01

It's Friday yeah.

ZACK 1:10:03

Right.

JT 1:10:04

So I thought I'll just go back to the UK. Ain't nothing happening here. Then after I moved over, they wouldn't let me back in for ages, because I had that warrant that's what it was, not that you had to go back.

ZACK 1:10:16

You went back on your own.

JT 1:10:17

They wouldn't let you come back, yeah stuck in the middle yeah, yeah, I tried to get it sorted for years. I got a lawyer but they wanted me to come over and like do probation over there. And I was like, well, I can't do that. I don't live there. I'm going to university in a different country. I can't just come and sit and do probation for six months. Well, it don't be fucking weird what?

BUCKY 1:10:39

was that Altarant County too?

JT 1:10:43

yeah, I think they just eventually gave up?

ZACK 1:10:45

Yeah, you don't even. It's like they wrote it off the books, you know.

ZACK Flynn 1:10:51

It's just so many years.

ZACK 1:10:52

After seven years, there's statute of limitations on that. Yeah, seven years, it's what it is Just waiting out like something like that yeah. It takes, however long it takes to get one off your record seven years.

BUCKY 1:11:04

What about when you came back and visited? Did you have to go through anything then?

JT 1:11:11

Like you know, there's nothing on there like keeping the first time when, when I came back, when my uh, when my dad died, when I came back through, they pulled me up and they were like, oh, you get a warrant out for your fight and uh, they, they put me in the holding cell at the airport and they called over to tarrant county and and Tarrant County's. Like man, it's Saturday night. We got bigger things to do.

ZACK 1:11:30

I can come get this?

JT 1:11:31

guy, so they just let me go, oh nice.

ZACK 1:11:34

They didn't want to come get you. They should have ran right then and never left.

ZACK Flynn 1:11:37

No.

JT 1:11:38

So yeah, so I got away with that one. Well, shit you, probably shit your pants and finally they just gave up A little bit. We were going to Red River the next day.

BUCKY 1:11:49

Yeah, so I mean it's fucking up your plans. I mean you weren't expecting that, huh.

BUCKY 1:11:54

I'm tapped.

JT's Life at Sea Today

JT 1:11:56

Yeah, my phone is tapped, Absolutely so what do you do for a living now, Justin? I work offshore on a deep-sea diving boat.

BUCKY 1:12:08

Yeah, you're the arian, basically yeah, you like watch this decompress I'm a I'm a life support technician like life support keep chambers, yeah yeah, basically I gotta keep it I gotta keep the

JT 1:12:22

guy a pressure that's equivalent with the depth of their diving yeah they kind of live in there for a month.

BUCKY 1:12:28

They've been down there like undersea welding, ain't they Like? They're like welders and shit or what.

JT 1:12:34

Yeah, yeah.

BUCKY 1:12:35

Like they're working underwater.

ZACK 1:12:35

Some of them are welders, I mean, some of them are searching for gold. Basically they Pirate treasure.

JT 1:12:39

They do welding, underwater construction like that, but they, they live on the boats and we, we put gas, we put oxygen and helium in I bet those you're on a hey you're not.

BUCKY 1:12:52

So you're like on a platform, like an offshore rig, or what are you like on a boat?

JT 1:12:56

no, no, no, I'm on a boat you ever had anybody die hope not nope, not there in the hospital.

ZACK 1:13:04

Yeah, that's good, not there right, right, oh, but yeah, but what it was caused from being too deep or what getting hurt or something well, yeah, it could be, you could you get hurt.

JT 1:13:16

I mean, people have had, uh, heart attacks in the water or stuff okay, I'm just, I'm looking for job.

ZACK 1:13:22

You know, possible jobs. You know, I bet they get, know, I bet they get paid. Well, I guarantee they get paid.

BUCKY 1:13:28

Well, super paid. He's like on half the time. We do like 30 days out there and then 30 days home.

ZACK 1:13:33

I want to be the diver though.

BUCKY 1:13:36

Oh yeah.

JT 1:13:36

Yeah.

BUCKY 1:13:37

Do that? Undersea welding, welding the pipelines and shit.

ZACK Flynn 1:13:46

I can't weld.

JT 1:13:47

Zach could end up punching someone if he was a diver Do what now? Zach could end up punching someone if he was a diver. He can be locked in the 10-cam with someone for 30 days with six people in there that you don't like.

ZACK 1:14:00

Oh hell, no, Well, I've did that for years. Hold on, I've done that for years already.

BUCKY 1:14:09

That does sound like a they didn't pay as well, oh hell no hell of a vacation needed some time off, didn't you?

BUCKY 1:14:20

so you spend half your time on a boat out there. That's all your work time isn't right and you're like 30 on, 30 off JT.

JT 1:14:30

Well, sometimes I'm three weeks on, sometimes I'm three weeks on three weeks off, or four weeks on four weeks off. It depends on whether I'm working here or Norway. That's Norway, I got different rules for how long you can stay on.

ZACK 1:14:42

Yeah, you're in Norway right now.

JT 1:14:44

Yeah, I've been there. No, I'm not in Norway. No, I'm outside of Aberdeen now.

ZACK 1:14:49

Have you come across any Vikings yet? I'm just saying Any Vikings.

JT 1:14:54

Well, I work with a few Norwegians. I think they're Vikings. I bet yeah, we keep telling them they're not. We're like oh, the Vikings left.

BUCKY 1:15:07

You're the farmers that stay behind.

JT 1:15:08

They don't like that I bet they don't like it. No, they don't like it. No, I've worked all over. I've worked in the Congo, Angola, Vietnam.

BUCKY 1:15:19

Damn.

JT 1:15:20

It's been alright.

ZACK 1:15:21

You've seen the world, I've gone around a bit. Do you ever get to go to the shore?

JT 1:15:27

Yeah, I did in Africa and Vietnam. I was only there for a day in Vietnam, on shore.

ZACK 1:15:33

I made the most of it. Yeah, I bet you did.

JT 1:15:41

I made the most of it. Some pretty good stories about Africa as well, but I can't really say them on a podcast.

ZACK 1:15:47

Yeah, you sure you can't Congo. That's not just anywhere in Africa we won't cut them out, but we can.

ZACK Flynn 1:15:55

I'm just kidding.

ZACK 1:15:55

I'm just playing. You don't have to.

BUCKY 1:15:58

You don't have to depends on how bad they are. Well, we're going to have a personal edit, a real, a personal reel. Oh, a real, a personal reel.

ZACK 1:16:10

Oh yeah.

BUCKY 1:16:12

Unedited version.

JT 1:16:13

Yeah, yeah, that's what my girlfriend, when she was laughing about it because it was on bed one night, I was like, yeah, you know this. One time I accidentally smoked crack in Africa that we got from a prostitute. How do you?

ZACK Flynn 1:16:33

accidentally smoke crack, though.

BUCKY 1:16:34

I'm just wondering how do you accidentally smoke crack Like smoke this joint?

JT 1:16:38

We thought it was speed. Yeah, we thought it was speed. Then she took a giant shit in my toilet. It was a very weird night.

BUCKY 1:16:50

That sounds pretty crazy.

ZACK 1:16:52

I think I've heard enough, yeah.

JT 1:16:56

They're wild over there. They just wait for the offshore people. They just wait for the offshore people to arrive. They call them night fighters, these prostitutes, and it's like someone at the hotel rings like the head woman, and they all just descend on the right at the hotel. You got to fight them off. You got to fight them off.

BUCKY 1:17:16

You got to fight through them. I'm trying to get to my room, miss Like. No, you got to go. Smoke this.

ZACK 1:17:23

They come knocking on your door right.

JT 1:17:26

Yeah, they follow you up to your room.

ZACK 1:17:28

I bet that's some good shit You're going to get rid of them.

BUCKY 1:17:32

You don't got to Most I mean, you know.

ZACK 1:17:35

I mean, how long is it before you get rid of them?

BUCKY 1:17:37

Yeah, that's what we're trying to ask. Yeah, after two hours you're like got to go man.

ZACK 1:17:41

Shit, they're lying.

BUCKY 1:17:48

Don to him say two hours. I'm sure they're great. Two minutes, that's the one time in my life, right, it's been a long time since it's been that time.

ZACK 1:17:52

I promise. Oh man, we're accepting calls. Now Go ahead and call about this subject, If you have a story about prostitutes and international crack deals. Right, that's hilarious.

BUCKY 1:18:11

That is very good.

JT 1:18:13

It was an accident.

BUCKY 1:18:14

Yeah, you didn't know what happened. You're the first person I've ever met. Didn't plan on that.

BUCKY 1:18:18

It just turned out that way.

ZACK 1:18:19

Accidentally Exactly let's just play on word when you said you smoked crack, you could have smoked the crack.

JT 1:18:25

Accidentally. What was that?

ZACK 1:18:29

I think crack. You could have smoked the crack accidentally. It was that. Yeah, I think there's two totally different ways you smoke crack and smoke speed. I mean, you weren't outside breaking antennas off and shit were you, wasn't what. Outside breaking antennas off vehicles were you, you know no, that was in the Congo, you say yeah, that one was in the Congo. Yeah, wow that's where that was alright that's where Walter worked. A bunch was down around Africa and stuff, wasn't it?

JT 1:19:01

yeah, he worked in Africa. Sometimes he was in Syria for a while, in China in the Middle.

BUCKY 1:19:05

East. He was all over the place in the Middle East a lot, wasn't he yeah?

JT 1:19:10

Yeah.

ZACK 1:19:10

I just remember him saying that I remember when he worked in Syria.

JT 1:19:13

You had to take a bulletproof vest with him to work.

BUCKY 1:19:14

Yeah, that don't sound like fun.

BUCKY 1:19:20

He worked for the old companies, so he got that paycheck.

BUCKY 1:19:22

Yeah, With that yeah.

JT 1:19:25

Yeah yeah, yeah well, I mean allegedly got that paycheck.

JT 1:19:28

We didn't see very much he claims I made money he hid that shit putting it away yeah, he did yeah, oh yeah, absolutely I like to tell people by the time I like to tell people by the time that do take me to get new shoes. When my mom was living back over in the uk, they split up time that I do take me to get new shoes. My mom was living back over in the UK. They split up for a while. He took me to Payless shoe stores to get shoes, which is one thing, but he made me choose them from the bargain bucket. Now these shoes were not the same shoe.

ZACK 1:20:04

They looked similar. Wow.

JT 1:20:11

Tight ass motherfucker. They looked similar but they were not the same shoe. It's like agent orange.

BUCKY 1:20:13

I took a hat coveralls from work at home.

JT 1:20:15

Remember when he worked in the yard, he wore his work clothes, yeah, yeah, agent orange that's why we called him agent orange wasn't that miss donahue that told us he was a spy?

BUCKY 1:20:26

I don't know yeah, I think. So, I think she.

JT 1:20:30

She told one of the classes he was a spy anyway you're definitely not alone.

ZACK 1:20:34

I think somebody's lying to us here. Definitely something going on in the background there, right?

JT 1:20:40

yeah, oh no, my, my girlfriend just kind of came in the door went back out now.

ZACK 1:20:48

Why'd you try to make me think it was a ghost while ago?

BUCKY 1:20:51

No, it was like a weird phone delay.

BUCKY 1:20:55

That's pretty weird. Yeah, we started picking up some voices on here.

ZACK 1:21:01

Well, you start talking about smoking crack in the Congo ain't no telling what's going to happen.

JT 1:21:07

There's got to be some disproven ghosts in the house.

ZACK 1:21:10

That's the CK story.

BUCKY 1:21:12

Yeah, there's definitely some ghosts around here, yeah.

JT 1:21:18

Y'all going to camp out over there one night and see what you can see.

ZACK 1:21:22

Oh yeah, that's when we're big-timing on video though.

BUCKY 1:21:26

I've stayed the night in here a couple times already. Not on that side, though Not just out in the hospital. No, hell, no.

ZACK 1:21:32

I would. I'd go in there and just have a good time.

BUCKY 1:21:35

Sleep in one of them. Beds, hospital beds.

BUCKY 1:21:37

Yeah, why not?

ZACK 1:21:39

I would I don't know, we'd have to pick a day. But, I mean I ain't scared, I ain't saying I ain't yeah, it's a possibility that when I get in there, I might be scared I have to be a badass ghost, all I know.

BUCKY 1:21:55

Yeah, well, I don't know. I ain't scared of it.

ZACK Flynn 1:21:57

I mean, I'd be anxious. There is no such thing as ghosts. I'm not saying that, what?

BUCKY 1:22:00

the fuck do you mean? But they tried to interact with me. I'd say yeah right, right right. But no, I'd do it. I'd do it With full knowledge. I think it'd be something I would no I ain't going to say we're not going over there having a seance or anything.

ZACK 1:22:19

We're going to have a special episode for JT to come back and then that's when we're going to do it, when JT comes back. Or yeah, that'd be a reason to come back. I think, yeah, I'll come back spend that note.

BUCKY 1:22:33

I would love for you to come back now.

JT 1:22:34

What are you thinking about sometime visiting jt, uh I was kind of hoping to come back later in the year there you go.

ZACK 1:22:43

Oh hell, really, hell. Yeah, that'd be great Like next fall again Like homecoming again.

JT 1:22:52

Yeah, yeah, something like that. I'm going to try and spend more time in Jalakand this time. I only got down for like one night last time.

ZACK 1:22:57

Right when it's not so freaking hot.

BUCKY 1:22:59

And that'd probably be a good time to see folks you know.

BUCKY 1:23:01

Yeah.

BUCKY 1:23:03

Some people are around, I'll get together, earl, some people are around. I'll get together.

JT 1:23:07

Earl's kid almost shot me.

BUCKY 1:23:09

Yeah, you're lucky, you didn't at that point. Yeah, it just so happened that I think the weapons were removed from my house at that time. Right, I ain't shitting you. He showed up at my house at like 4 am. Hey, man Came in the door. Oh, he came in. Nobody answered the door. Somebody came in Because nobody answered the door, so he came in.

ZACK 1:23:27

He just walked in your house, jt, yeah.

BUCKY 1:23:30

And RJ was still here, then RJ would have shot his ass.

ZACK 1:23:32

I didn't know. He just walked in though. Yeah, there's no way he knew who Justin was you know.

BUCKY 1:23:36

No, he didn't, he still didn't.

JT 1:23:53

That's why he came out in the street, because he was like don't, don't, don't, and jt comes like under the door yeah, they left my house. Yeah, yeah, it's like 4 am yeah, three, four, yeah yeah, they said don't, don't, don't, but he's the one that stopped the truck outside. Well, yeah, he, he took you over.

BUCKY 1:23:58

Yeah, I wasn't driving he wasn't gonna knock on the door, yeah yeah that's when we were.

BUCKY 1:24:05

Yeah, oh hell, I didn't recognize now when I first came in the door, it's just some big dude in the door I had. No, he fucking had a beard and crazy hair and shit. Took me a minute because even when he's talking to me he's talking even more cockney than that sounded like. I was like wait a minute. Oh yeah, he was telling me who he was like three times probably. How many times you tell me who you were before I got? Well, I mean, he wasn't a fucking sleep at three, four in the morning too but yeah, no, I won't forget that.

BUCKY 1:24:32

That's a memory jt made yeah, and not that long ago.

ZACK 1:24:37

No, yeah, the cool thing is everybody stayed up with with him after that yeah, we did.

BUCKY 1:24:41

We stayed up till about 5, 30 or 6, so yeah drinking in the yard.

JT 1:24:47

I mean obviously my memory. My memory just flashed back to 94-95 where you could just go and do that, go knock on someone's house, oh, yeah, absolutely oh yeah, you had no qualms.

BUCKY 1:24:58

I mean it's been.

ZACK 1:24:59

It's been a couple times. David's come all the way out to the farm and slept with the dogs.

BUCKY 1:25:02

You know him and him and Duke out there fucking camped out in the front yard. He just walks up and comes in like he'd been there the other day, you know.

ZACK 1:25:14

Yeah, like it was five minutes ago. Hold on, I left my phone inside. Yeah, like he left something.

BUCKY 1:25:18

Just comes on in.

ZACK 1:25:21

In the kitchen cooking.

BUCKY 1:25:23

It was somebody else's house from last, you knew, huh.

ZACK 1:25:26

I thought Christy still lived here.

BUCKY 1:25:30

He was looking for Leland and Cinny. Yeah, like I said, I barely recognize him, much less anybody else knew who the hell this was at my house, anyway, yeah.

BUCKY 1:25:46

Yeah.

JT 1:25:49

That's how things go Well we just left Zach's as well. Yeah, I think I'd already been trying to go to sleep in Zach's house. So Zach's like nah, you can't come in, man, my dog will eat you.

ZACK 1:25:57

That's a fact. That's the bad thing about my house. If you don't belong there, if you ain't me or my wife, your ass is in trouble, the dog will eat your ass yes, she sure will dare you.

ZACK 1:26:12

Oh, that's a good dog, not friendly. Still stuck your window, still stuck your hand in the window, didn't you? You know who I'm talking about. You still stuck your hand in the window, didn't you pull that hand back? Oh, that is a good dog, that's what I told you she's. It's an emotional support dog for me, but for anybody else she's a fucking nightmare. She ain't a big dog, she's a little dog.

BUCKY 1:26:35

I've seen her.

JT 1:26:36

As long as she works for you.

BUCKY 1:26:39

All right, JT, I think we're about to what I think Zach's got to go right. Yes, I do, Zach's got to go.

JT 1:26:46

We got to go. I don't even know if we've actually talked about Drake, but A little.

ZACK 1:26:52

That's another phone call.

BUCKY 1:26:53

We'll have to try again yeah, we can make it.

BUCKY 1:26:56

Yeah, we'll get together again sometime and put it together.

BUCKY 1:26:59

We've proved this. Yeah yeah, this isn't impossible. We've proved we can you.

ZACK 1:27:02

You know pretty much that we've just you know I've decided that. You know we've got a decent fan base out there that just wants to hear some funny shit. So you know, and quit cutting out cuss words yeah well, we just try to take it and just let it go. They're like I want to hear one a week. I'm like we've got like a year and a half worth of shit. We could actually you know, that's how we do it. Yeah, a year and a half worth of shit, we could actually, you know, but yeah, I think you're right, man.

JT 1:27:29

I think people just kind of want to be entertained. They like the it's surprising.

ZACK 1:27:33

Yeah, it was surprising, yeah.

BUCKY 1:27:35

Well, and we have a connection to the Chilicothe people. It's funny how far that goes just to knock us crossing over years and people.

ZACK 1:27:41

Yeah, it's just people, and it's the people that's not from Chillicothe, the ones that have been talking to me because it's different place, different time it is you know and that's the crazy. You know you get to thinking about. You know how the difference between us and our parents are. You know it's insane.

BUCKY 1:28:02

You're not going back to either world anymore. You know what?

ZACK 1:28:04

never, nope, nope. Things will never be the same back to either world anymore. You know what? Never, nope, nope, nope.

BUCKY 1:28:13

Things will never be the same. All right, jt got deported. Things will never be the same. That'll be the name of this episode, right?

ZACK 1:28:18

Deportation yeah.

BUCKY 1:28:20

Deported, but not forgotten.

ZACK 1:28:22

Were they called ISIS.

BUCKY 1:28:22

Yeah, 9-11. Got all started.

ZACK 1:28:29

Self-deportation. I mean, I understand why you got deported. Now we're talking about cracking the Congo. Isn't that the crack we were thinking about when you said the Philippines?

JT 1:28:43

There's more stories. When I came from.

ZACK 1:28:45

I know there is. I want to hear them too. To be honest with you.

BUCKY 1:28:48

Ah shit, we'll call you again. Uh, jt for sure.

BUCKY 1:28:53

Yeah, you know your name.

BUCKY 1:28:54

Your name will be brought up quite a bit. Damn every episode so far.

ZACK 1:28:58

you know I love you, so take care yeah man, I love you boys, All right man, I like hearing you on the podcast.

BUCKY 1:29:07

Yeah, keep it up, keep listening and sharing to whoever you can.

ZACK 1:29:10

We're going to do a podcast in the nude. We're just waiting for this. It's called the. Nudist Podcast. That's just for entertainment purposes oh yeah, we're not going to be the one in the nude.

BUCKY 1:29:24

Wait a second. I don't know why you took it that way more congo stories.

JT 1:29:27

Give me a call back oh, we're definitely gonna oh, we're gonna be calling you.

BUCKY 1:29:30

Yeah, we'll call you back, jt for sure you can uh explain them in more detail we'll come see us, dude, come see us.

BUCKY 1:29:35

Make that plan to come, actually because, like oh, yeah, we'll have you live. Yeah, we can have live yeah, we'll sit in, do one yeah wait a second, that'd be good.

BUCKY 1:29:42

Yeah, definitely, definitely, what'd you say?

JT 1:29:47

it's recording you can feed, you can feed me a 12 pack of natural light. Everyone can see the real me natural light I know that's right back with $7.30 a case.

ZACK 1:29:58

sometimes we need to see the real you.

BUCKY 1:29:59

Yeah, alright, jt. Well, I appreciate the call, man, and uh, we'll be getting back, take care of yourself.

ZACK 1:30:06

This is the. This is the.

BUCKY 1:30:09

This is the B and the E. And the. Z with the JT yeah.

ZACK Flynn 1:30:14

Be easy JT.

JT 1:30:15

Yeah, Be easy boys.

ZACK Flynn 1:30:17

All right, all right, all right, I mean, that looks good. And with a cry in his voice and a tear in his eyes.

ZACK 1:30:51

I heard every word the man had to say.

ZACK Flynn 1:30:59

He said I lost my wife and I couldn't stop getting high and the lies caught up with me. And when she left, she took the only thing that meant anything to me, and with those baby blue eyes and that smile, that smile, this year she turned three. You better grab a hold of something, something to grab a hold of you, and don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, because I'm just a reflection of you. He said I'm just a reflection Of you. Oh Lord, oh Lord. Well, I could see the desperation in his eyes. Each deep breath it took for him to breathe and every word he said hit home with me.

Plans to Return and Episode Closing

ZACK Flynn 1:32:28

I felt like a blind man could now see. And then, the more I stared, the more I realized that the man standing there in front of me, hell, he was just a reflection of me. I said just a reflection of me. You see, I lost my wife.

ZACK Flynn 1:33:06

I couldn't stop getting high and the lights caught up with me and when she left she took the only thing that meant anything to me, to me, and with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine. This year she turned three. You better grab a hold of something close. I'll grab a hold of you. Don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, cause it might be a question. If you can't take the truth, cause it might be a reflection of you. I said it might be a reflection Of you, of you. I love you, oh, I love you, you see.

ZACK Flynn 1:34:13

I looked at myself in the mirror For the first time in a long time today and I had to take a step back Cause I swear.

ZACK 1:34:31

I didn't recognize my own fate. Guitar solo.