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E-11-Shadows That Whisper: Personal Ghost Stories and Paranormal Experiences

Bucky/Earl/Zack Season 1 Episode 11

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Something shifts in the air when you step into an abandoned hospital. The whispers of the past seem to linger in every corner, making even the bravest souls question what might be watching from the shadows. In this deeply personal episode, we gather in the old Chillicothe Hospital to share the supernatural encounters that have shaken our understanding of reality.

Eric takes us through his bone-chilling experience working alone on New Year's Eve, when unexplained noises and mysteriously opening doors made it clear he wasn't truly alone. The hair-raising details of objects falling repeatedly from shelves with no explanation will make you think twice about dismissing those strange sounds in your own home.

From the whistling ghost that follows a high school football game to a Ouija board session that left participants stranded in a cemetery with their car mysteriously locked, each story builds upon a shared understanding that some things simply defy logical explanation. We explore the fine line between benevolent spiritual encounters—like the patient who reached out from beyond to offer comfort during a medical crisis—and malevolent forces that seem determined to cause harm.

The conversation takes unexpected turns, including the tale of a mysterious carpenter who created an architectural marvel before vanishing without a trace, and a cursed wooden gargoyle that refused to be destroyed even by fire. Each story serves as both entertainment and warning about the unseen forces that might be operating just beyond our perception.

Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, these firsthand accounts from ordinary people in small-town Texas will make you question what exists beyond our understanding. Listen with the lights on—and maybe check that your doors are locked.

Zack:

And with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine. This year, well, she turned three. You better grab a hold of something. Hold something, grab a hold of you and don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, cause it might be a question if you can't take the truth, because it might be a reflection of you. I said it might be a reflection of you. All right, coming to you live from the old, abandoned Chillicothe Hospital in Chillicothe, texas. This is the B to the E To the Z, and that is Be easy, be easy, baby.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to have to relax, get back, so we're here.

Zack:

Back in the studio, back in the saddle. I guess you'd call this a studio, right.

Speaker 2:

That's what it would be.

Zack:

That's what it would be. This is the old, abandoned Pentecostal hospital. The spooky dookie, yeah, the spooky dookie, oh, scooby-doo baby.

Speaker 2:

There's been so many things happen here.

Zack:

One of my favorite cartoons. We need to get him in here. Oh, baby, see who really messed up in here? I'm telling you right now there's some serious stories I've heard about this place, yeah, and this is going to be our first episode of this hospital talk, hospital, excuse me, hospital slash, ghost stories, I mean just.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's a natural place for that. People walk into it. There's people that can't even go in here.

Zack:

People walk in here after dark, say, seashells by the seashore. So uh, yeah, you know, we we kind of hit on this at the end of an episode not too long ago about ghost stories and uh this hospital and things that's happened to us and that we we felt like we might want to share a little bit of it. I mean, eric here has had some serious yeah, serious stuff let's talk about it because I had one recently.

Speaker 2:

I guess yeah, so do you want to talk? So?

Zack:

we're talking about ghost stories, spooky stories yes, this is for entertainment purposes only. It's spookyoky, though.

Speaker 2:

I was working at night for a while.

Zack:

At night.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like overnights and I've done it before Is that when the freaks come out? Well, you know, I've heard stories about the building before. I used to stay at nights.

Speaker 2:

yeah, that's true, and I've been there even when other people heard funky noises. The building does make noises. You kind of get used to them and know what they are, like the refrigeration crack and defrosting and stuff like that, and the wind when it hits the building, because otherwise you don't really hear a lot outside of stuff Usually. Uh, yeah, that's what started this and that was kind of weird. And I heard some other kinds of stuff, like people you know been there when they're by themselves. It got pretty spooky. I had people that leave, they didn't want to stay the whole night. They called like they can't do it, they can't work in that by themselves, and I mean I never bothered me that bad. Yeah, they freak out for whatever reason. They say they heard this or that or you know, uh, more than one, two or three people like couldn't work in that by themselves, uh, but uh, anyway, so that's what I was doing. All right, you know what?

Speaker 2:

I also heard some other stuff like uh, oh yeah, like what like they it was it was crystal actually and somebody else had told her because, uh, like, she was there one morning like that and there was just a couple of them in the building and you know, she thought, usually when there's people there you can sometimes like smell people you know it's like an old lady like an old lady.

Zack:

That's right, there's a guy at the mexican food restaurant. My god, anyway, I'm sorry about that, but nobody was there.

Speaker 2:

You know you like, it's like somebody just walked behind you and you can smell them. Even you know stuff like that and anyway, yeah, like I said, I've heard stuff and I always explain it away. You know, like, but uh, there's always.

Zack:

That's what I was trying to do. That couldn't happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah and I really wasn't even thinking. I've been working all these nights and it's kind of zombied out you. I wasn't thinking it was New Year's, but it was New Year's Eve, because I remember there was a floor guy there for a while and I let him out about 1130 or something and I was looking when it was about 1140 something. I was like, man, I'll probably walk back up front or something and see midnight or whatever, and I kind of forgot about it and then about it, and then, uh, I even I was thinking about something else, I guess, because then I heard, like inside the building and I was like it's like a gunshot, you know.

Speaker 2:

So, like I said, you don't usually hear shit outside, and I was like, oh hell, I looked at my watch, it was like 12, 20 or something, though, and uh, that's something funny there too. Uh, I was like that's got to be fireworks, I guess, but it was like 1220. And I didn't go look at them or nothing. But I only heard like four or five. And then also, you don't hear a lot of is a helicopter coming over, like you know what it is.

Zack:

Gunshot and a helicopter yeah like it flew pretty.

Speaker 2:

I figured it was going to the hospital, but it sounded closer than usual.

Zack:

Yeah, like this is like Flash. Yeah, closer than usual. Yeah, Like this is like Flashback to the moment. Yeah, time you got your dick shut off.

Speaker 2:

Shut off A lot of bad thoughts, a lot of rough thoughts.

Speaker 2:

So I heard that and then the fireworks started again, I guess Whatever like the popping, and I still didn't even like go up front and look or nothing, because I mean this was all happening maybe over like six or eight minutes.

Speaker 2:

It all kind of happened fast, like what the hell? You know what's going on outside and the wind hits, and I thought that was real too, because it was kind of you know, it was like 12 30 that happens a lot of times like a big wind out the north, you know, kind of hits the building and that kind of hit the building and like, uh, right after that, some stuff fell about two aisles over from me, like it sounded like you're the only one in the store yeah, yeah, I'm the only one in the whole building and uh, I go over and look I don't find nothing I mean on the ground for sure and I look up on top of that, something just fell over. It sounded like it was up anyway, like it didn't hit the ground, like it was up somewhere, something probably. I just didn't find it or whatever. Like not even a minute later, something else about in the same place sounded like it again.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, you know I ain't gonna look, let me go investigate. And it did it again. I heard shit fall. Then it sounded like somebody rattling jars, like it was like that, wouldn't you know. I was still thinking like well, something fell, and so I quit looking. Jars are chains you know it sounded weird. It sounded like somebody was right, because it sounded like it was like pretty close to me, like about two aisles over. It almost sounded like what it was in the pickles or something I could hear like what the hell does that noise?

Speaker 2:

Anyway, that happened like it wouldn't even be a minute and it would do it again. Surely not again. It did it like eight times in ten minutes maybe.

Zack:

I was looking at my watch.

Speaker 2:

I'm like fixing the rat shit down. It's like between 1220 and 1240. All this shit happened For how many minutes? Eight, yeah, like about eight. Noises Like I kept hearing shit like that? I was like that ain't nothing. Surely what did that?

Zack:

Why is it saying it was like kind of different now and then. Anyway, I thought I thought you knew what the heater?

Speaker 2:

I didn't know I don't know sounds like water running. I don't have no water blowing or something, but that was just then. I continued to hear stuff that was just when it was like that and like, like. For the next couple of hours I would just keep starting to freak me out.

Zack:

Don't even stop telling this.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it was getting like I was just laughing, I was trying to ignore it and I would be like no, you know, and then it would like something would happen again. About every 10 or 15 minutes I'd hear something and then about three or four I was. You know, people start coming to the store about four or five. Sometimes I'll have somebody show up early to do something. That was the produce cutting or bakery doing something. They're usually somebody's there about five, but about now I figured shit ain't going to go on when people come or whatever, and I thought it was slowing down. I was on the other side of the store and something you don't hear at night. It's a weird noise. You only hear it. Those blue doors you go through they kind of make a weird noise Like a whipping noise you don't hear that shit when nobody's there with you, you know with you, you know somebody's, you know.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, I was like, not far from that like I could. When I looked up I heard that door and I, you know, it just made me look up and when I look I could see pieces that door and I was like what? The maybe, maybe it wasn't quite shutting it shut. You know now, I hadn't been through that door on that side. Okay, maybe trying to rationalize.

Speaker 2:

So then, I go around the corner to where I'm straight on with that door and I'm messing on that like the coffee and shit's there, you know, and it does it again, like I almost can't look up fast enough to see it, but it's right at the end of the deal and that was about the last thing that happened. That was about 3, 30 or 4, I think. I think it was like 3, 40, is it been? It all been about three hours or something that it was, and uh, then it stopped, of course, and I was just like I tell you, the whole time it felt like somebody was in the building messing with you. It was just like a kid or something.

Zack:

Did you get sleep that day before work? Yeah, yeah, I've been like a meth head looking through the blinds. I would not take my eyes off where that sounded.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I was doing pretty good. I mean, yeah, as far as sleeping stuff that day, you know, because I kind of planned on it. It was my second, out of three days, I'd work Monday night, and that was a Tuesday by myself, and then I was going to work the next night and I'd been off before that. Yeah, saturday and Sunday.

Zack:

I was doing really pretty. I mean, it wasn't like a rough week or nothing. So did you figure out what it was? No, that's just it. Yeah, I don't, you'll scare them too. You're like here he goes again. Hey, shit, you'll scare people too Well. I've had some other man, I got a pretty good one myself.

Zack:

Back when we were in high school. I was in high school, y'all just graduated, so that would have been like 90. Football game, three Football game Coach Smart was the coach at the time and we left the football field headed to my house, we being my ex-wife. But we left the football field headed to my house, which is three miles outside of the country, and we hit Farmers Valley Line, which everybody around here knows what Farmers Valley Line is. It's the county line and it drops off and you can see my house about a mile away and she's in front of me.

Zack:

She's in front of me and then she's in that green Ford Bronco and she starts swerving all over the freaking road. I mean like, oh, I was like what the hell? Somebody's attacking her.

Zack:

I didn't know what was going on really. And so she hits the dirt road and tears ass and she don't drive fast, she flies down there, slams on the brakes so I'm flying now and she jumps out of the vehicle and she runs around to the back of the vehicle and stays about five foot back. Then she runs up and looks in the back and I said like what in the hell is going on? I pulled up and said what is going on? She's like I swear to God there's somebody in the backseat of my vehicle. As soon as I come up over the hill, right there county line, I can see the house. And she said she heard plane is freaking day. I was like what, come on now.

Zack:

So I kind of blew that off because you know we're in high school, not thinking about much of anything else. So go in there and it's time for her to go home and always stop at the door She'd give me a kiss, goodnight, you know. Say goodbye, blah, blah, blah. And as soon as she kissed me in my room, in my house and I'm telling you right now, stalker Freaked us out so bad I'm going to tell you right now, freaked me out. I slept with a butcher knife. I'm not going to lie to you. I mean plain as day, bro. Why do they got to do that? And I'm like I wanted to go wake my parents up, but I didn't want to seem like a pussy. You know what I'm saying.

Zack:

You know, dad wasn't too far away. He was asleep on the couch. He slept on the couch every night until I graduated high school or passed out on the couch, but anyway. So I was like man. I told my parents about it. I was like damn. I mean it's crazy that she said that then it happens again while we're both there. That's what was nuts. So I always ate breakfast with my grandmother and I'm telling her what happened and she looks at me and she goes whistle, like you did it again. And I said she said okay, let me tell you not to freak you out, freak you out, but the brothers built this house back in 1920, 1915, whenever the hell it was. And one of the brothers I can't remember when she said it was always whistled, just like that, anytime any female walked up. I just you knew the whistle from a mile away and who was doing it. And he built that house. I was like man. That's crazy, though, you know, did he go to all the football games?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Did he get all of them or just this one?

Zack:

You know that was. I mean that's kind of freaky, I mean it's not just super scary or nothing, but it happened.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not just super scary or nothing, but it happened.

Zack:

Yeah, yeah, I mean so.

Speaker 2:

Funny Connects Got a damn perv ghost Ghost.

Zack:

Yeah, I hate them stalker ones. He's seen some crazy shit. Stalker one, stalker one, Stalker ghost, no, no, yeah. So I mean there's lots of unexplained things out there yeah, oh yeah, see mine I guess it scares mine ouija board. I should have never done that. No, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think but earl, he was there, yeah, at the cemetery yeah, so so just jump in there real quick.

Zack:

So for y'all that don't know well how, I believe and we were raised especially, you know, me and chris, both uh, our parents were our moms, were, you know, pretty uh, they used to call them bible thumpers around here. Really, yeah, yeah, I mean like so, but anyway, people thought they were weird y'all don't, don't even, don't even look at a ouija board.

Zack:

Yeah, I don't because they'll jump right through that board right on top of your ass and and they'll have a hold of you and people look like what is this? Motherfucker? It's crazy. No, that's true thing. Yeah, it's like talking to medians or psychics yeah, there's some things you don't mess with.

Speaker 2:

There's that they're there and they're not to be messed with you, don't?

Zack:

you're not supposed to talk to the dead. You're not supposed to see. Yeah, I wish I would have never done that, but anyway, we had it. We was out there with a few of us, a lot of other stiff and we put the Ouija board on the back of the car.

Zack:

Okay, so we all got out and put it on the back of the car. Well, we was doing it. Everybody got scared and like, all right, I'm ready to go. A lot of girls got scared because it was moving. Drape was there? Yeah Me, you Drape, well, anyway, me and Drape you, a couple others, back of the car, calling up whoever would answer. Somebody started moving. We're like, oh shit, got ready to leave. The car was locked, the keys inside running. This was before cell phones. They locked your ass out Right there. Yeah, so you couldn't leave.

Speaker 2:

We could not leave. We were right there, right there by the cemetery In it.

Zack:

In the cemetery.

Speaker 2:

We were in it, I was not. I wasn't even 50-50 thinking that, okay, what part of the cemetery were you at, right in the middle? Were you on the back corner?

Zack:

Kind of in the back corner when the witches are buried.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah yeah, Well, yeah, I weren't far from that. Yeah, that used to be there. No, but this is where we were dude, because then we were looking around, Because whenever we were messing with it, I was still thinking like somebody's moving it.

Zack:

I did too.

Speaker 2:

And it was like because they were like who is this? And they, when we're looking around and the car's running and shit, we find a grave right there where we are and it's a six-year-old, Somebody that had been buried when they were six and shit like that. So I don't know it would have been, it would have took one of us.

Zack:

We had to stay out there a long time, dude, yeah we were out there a long time waiting.

Speaker 2:

Somebody had to wait, man, we had to wait. Yeah, I know, wow, we were out there a good while. I'm so scared, bro. Yeah, so everybody feared that Girls. Hell, I've been scared too. I was Believe me, I was just like it was true man.

Zack:

That's the last time, some things you just don't mess with. Well, I didn't know. I thought it was cool. I don't even know whose idea it was. Where the Ouija?

Speaker 2:

board came from, I don't know, for some reason. It was kind of a thing right then. For a couple weeks people were like, hey, you want to do it, we did it. I don't know.

Zack:

I don't know why I knew a person.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was a game Because there was that's what it was. There was more than one, probably.

Zack:

What was it?

Speaker 2:

They did the Ouija board in the beginning of it yeah, what was that?

Zack:

Was that Vampire Hollywood? What was that? They killed vampires or, you know, the lost boys was the lost boys may have been? Yeah, there was some other.

Speaker 2:

There was some other, crazier than that about ouija board so uh, but uh, yeah, I don't know why. To me I thought it was more like uh, it was kind of interesting trying to figure out if it's real or not, or who's doing it.

Zack:

Yeah, and shit like that trying to, you know, guess but I didn't, I didn't believe to me, I believe any of that. Until we got ready to go and the car was locked. I was like, all right, bro, and it was just running.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just turned into a shit show. There was just like a lot of little shit starts falling apart.

Zack:

Yeah, shit just started going wrong. Like, wow, I knew this chick one time that she got possessed. I mean, I didn't see this, but she was working at a place in Houston and had a friend there that worked there, an older lady that had a son that passed away and she was calling a median while they were at work and talking to this median, medium, medium, and she said, hey, you want to talk to my son, which supposedly is talking through the medium, you know what I'm saying?

Zack:

And she made the mistake of picking up the phone and at first she said I didn't realize what happened, what was going on. Then bad shit started happening. She had to move all the way home, next thing, you know, starting to see shadows everywhere, starting to feel like somebody's watching, and you know, you mix that with a combination of drugs which just opens the door faster. Yeah, definitely, she said she was sitting. Bad things just happened to her. Somebody tried to molest her, you know.

Zack:

Just a bunch of shit happened in a row and she's like she called somebody to come get her and they came and got her and she said they were driving back from that place. And she said they were driving back from that place and she literally saw in her leg a handprint come up in her skin trying to push out of her leg from the inside. And then the next thing she knew she was throwing up black ball, straight black. And uh, she just pulled up in the, the town where she from, and one of her friends, which was a churchgoer, said you need to come with me. And they went to a preacher's house Trying to get saved.

Zack:

Oh, I'll tell you right now. They didn't want to come out, said they didn't want to come out. They didn't want to come out, said they didn't want to come out, started throwing up a bunch of black bile Until finally, you know about 18, 20 hours later, Got it out. Yeah, he never stopped. The preacher never stopped. I mean, you just take that. I say face value, that's what she said, you know, and I don't know why she would make that up. She didn't know I had a religious background, but I mean, shit like that is crazy and don't think it don't happen.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you right now it does.

Zack:

I mean anybody can have. You're not supposed to walk into a room and see shadows out of the corner of your eye. Or if you walk by a mirror and you see a face in the mirror, that's not right, bro. You need to get some help. You need to get some God help, Right, Because you're not supposed to see things like that. No, and you know I'm a firm believer in that I mean you just don't.

Speaker 2:

There's things to see Ouija boards. You know, yeah, that was crazy.

Zack:

I'll never do that again.

Speaker 2:

You know crazy. I'll never do that again, you know, don't think about it, I mean. But I do have another story, or more there's a positive one, I suppose it sounds different hey, there are good ghosts, right, right.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's like that I've also felt benevolent, like I said, like somebody's messing with me, stuff like that. I've had some other ones that's just like one that's hard to believe you know you're by yourself or whatever, uh, but uh, one that was really wild to me. It takes some explaining, some setup. Of course I was a nurse and at one time when I had the clinic, I was the director of the clinic. I was always there early in the morning and there were certain patients. You know, you just get into a morning routine and this one little lady, she just sang like a bird, I mean like constantly all the time, and she sang. Well, she sang like at everybody's funeral in vernon for years and uh, she worked in the wagner bank and uh, her, she was like one of 11 kids. Her uh, dad was like a reverend in mississippi.

Speaker 2:

It was a black lady and uh, anyway, that she was just, you know, such a sweetheart had was having such a rough life. Though she didn't have any kids, she had like somebody she called her nephew. I don't think it was having such a rough life though she didn't have any kids, she had like somebody she called her nephew. I don't think it was really cancer that she kind of raised and uh was just the example of what you, you know you're probably supposed to be as a Christian, almost, but she just had this horrible health and stuff, you know, and just I don't know, it was just but she to her being around.

Speaker 2:

As you know, there's just some patients that are different and it was really that way when I worked in dialysis. You see, you you're usually having for some years, you know you just kind of, and pretty often several times a week, uh, but anyway she was just, you know, kind of special person and just like I said, she sang at all these funerals and just sang, she just, and was always singing, you know, like christian music, gospel music, as old, old school stuff, southern baptist. You know like christian music, gospel music, it's old, old school stuff, southern baptist, you know uh. But anyway, uh she did, she had an infection or something and passed away and uh, I'm gonna say two, three months later had uh leo, had uh fallen out of the grocery basket at target in the parking lot and had uh hit his head and had like a seizure, damn, and they checked him out, you know, in Wichita then, and you know we had some other.

Speaker 2:

They did some tests you know to see and they couldn't figure out what was wrong. If there was anything else wrong, couldn't really tell. You don't know when you've had. You know he was little, he was like 18 months old and that could be a concussion at any age, can you?

Zack:

you don't know how tall it is compared to 18 months old. So not.

Speaker 2:

Probably two weeks later or so he has another seizure and it was like, uh, he did, he just like he was at the boys and girls club and somebody ran into him, so it was, and knocked him down, hit floor, pretty, no, pretty good, fall in and he had another seizure and they had the ambulance came, yada, yada, so he had another trip to the hospital. Uh, so crystal was pretty free, you know, sprayed out. This shit could happen. And I wasn't there, uh, any of these times, the first two times either of those times, none of those. Uh, but I knew he had barely. You know, like you're on pins and needles, what's going on, they don't know. You just kind of wait and see. We're going to maybe do more stuff. Well, not even.

Speaker 2:

Like, some days later they're at home and she says she's watching him, like, just, you know, come in out of the bathroom right there and he falls on a carpeted floor like nothing, like a little kid will, and then taps his head on the floor and just goes into it like another seizure, like to it, like a another seizure, like the word, it's like a convulsion, you know, like drooling and and, uh, she just said she felt an immense panic, you know, and I can imagine right then. But then all of a sudden she just had like a voice and almost like a vision and and felt like this lady at the bank that, for whatever reason, was telling her that your baby's going to be okay, your baby's okay. Anyway, we ended up going to Cook's and all this stuff. We're at Cook's, they do all kinds of tests, have us in there for days and whatever. Can't really figure out. If he's going to have more problems, we may have to have him.

Speaker 2:

It's not epilepsy, but he does have an injury. That's probably going to get better. He may still have trouble later. It's hard, you know, it's a brain thing. You don't know. It may come back when he's later. You don't need to get, you don't need to get hit in the head, all right, but uh, the the less the better. It's so and you know, anyway, while we're down there I'm talking to crystal about how she talked and she talks about how you know she had that panic and then it just came over her and I was like what are you talking about? This lady at the bank? Because I was pretty good about mostly, you know, like hippa, like I didn't talk about patients or have I had some that came to my house that were unavoidable.

Speaker 2:

I had you know, like a couple like that came from quater or whatever here in chillicothe, that would come, you know, and the kids knew them and stuff like that. But this is not somebody I ever spoke of or anything. And she says, for some reason, that lady that worked in the basement at the bank uh, just told me that he's your baby's gonna be okay, she was in it. I was like who you talking about? She goes well, she just always, you know, uh, but always talk about leo. When I would go there it was because leo was a baby, that's the only one she'd had with him with her. And turn I found out who it was and I was like that's, you know, kind of that's wild, that's wild well anyway.

Speaker 2:

So I still wasn't 100 on board, dude, I'm still not 100 on board, and probably when I came back to work after that happened, though, she told me that about three days later I go to work, like at four in the morning or whatever, then and I'm just walking up to the building and I get this for no reason. I mean, I'm barely awake, I'm out of eat breakfast or whatever, you know, barely doing my routine, that I did like whatever. I'm just walking in, getting like he, like I can't even open the door, I just start crying and just I'm overtaken and for I don't know why, I really and then I was, as I'm going in, I'm just like you know, it's like she's not here and I, it was like just as, and I still wasn't like that day. I wanted to tell people, like the other people there, Something you normally didn't think of like that.

Speaker 2:

Huh, it just all starts coming in on you weird and it's a feeling like I said as much as anything and then I still was probably like you know. It kind of calms down. You're still like no, I still got three phone calls from her. My phone would ring and at first I didn't and I answered it finally every time you mean that her number would come up. Yes, and I hadn't heard from her in months and nobody had tried to call me, she's dead.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she passed away for sure, then, and I got that weird air when I would answer it. It sounds like you're kind of ecstatic a little bit, something weird, and anyway. This is a test. Yeah, I told her about that because I was like still no, no, somebody's got her phone, shit.

Speaker 2:

And then it like, I was like, but it happened three times because another time, not long before that, had another patient pass away, that was from here, same kind of thing, but I think somebody had his phone the same way I was writing it off. Then, yeah, like I got a call from him why'd they call this number so much?

Zack:

and it was maybe or?

Speaker 2:

Some guy threw his old phone or whatever or the other number. It was just, but it was a lot. It was like even when you say hey, give me a sign. It was almost like no.

Zack:

Maybe Is that really Same.

Speaker 2:

Something just keeps being undeniable.

Zack:

So I have told the story about give me a sign. I've told you all that before yeah yeah, I've told you all that before. Yeah, yeah, and yeah, that's when you ask for a sign, it gets answered immediately. That's some. It makes you back off a little, don't it? Hey, I'll tell you right now that I ignored it and I wished I wouldn't have Bad things happened. But you know, that's crazy. Yeah, but that was Getting calls from the beyond.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and, like I said, the feelings like that were weird, because any other time, like when you're spooked or scared or something, you know what I mean. No, this was such a weird, and not that I don't know, I had never thought of it that way, it just came upon me, you know what I mean.

Zack:

At least it wasn't like Charles Manson calling you Right, right, yeah Because.

Speaker 2:

I have. That's why I think you don't look. I trapped in between you know, for whatever, Like the people that haunt things and stuff like that. Yeah, we don't know. Have some reason, that's right, we don't know. Yeah, like here in this hospital. But to me it seems like there might be some loss.

Zack:

Yeah, because I think.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you some other ones that really make you sound crazy. I don't know if it's a ghost story or a demon. At night, you know, I swear to God, like I felt somebody behind me, like laying in the bed with me. I was in a single twin bed, you know I was probably 10 or 12. Was he spooning you?

Zack:

I just felt like somebody laid in the bed. You know, oh, that's even worse. I turned to the wall.

Speaker 2:

I turned to the wall.

Zack:

I'm turning to the wall in the corner Can't escape I and I'm like, is this like? My brother or my dad God I hope so. Yeah, kind of Only me and my uncle touch me, like that. I was kind of late.

Speaker 2:

I was half-assed asleep. I wasn't totally asleep. I remember that. I remember my door was even open. There was light coming in, but dark in my room, and I just start to kind of lean over to see who it is and they kicked the shit out of me. Oh hell, kicked the shit out of me. No, hell, no, I ain't lying. So so then I'm kicked up into the wall and I look again and you can see where it looks like somebody's supposed to be there, but there ain't nobody like there was a body imprint.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, yeah I freaked out, dude. You know what I did? I just laid the fuck back down for like probably two or three hours and wouldn't look at that side of the bed. I wouldn't even move. Yeah, hey, and the mic?

Zack:

no sir, no blink no, blinking, just straight up.

Speaker 2:

No, and then and then, when I finally, looked again, it moved, dude, it went from there to my closet like that damn it, like in a flash boy.

Zack:

Just say, I mean, I was like, I was like in between, like I don't know, like probably 10 or 12 oh okay, I wasn't about high school, but I, I remember pretty vividly, you know still hell yeah, because I remember sitting there pts, ptsd from that shit.

Speaker 2:

It kicked me like in the back of my ass, kind of like, oh, here comes the real story.

Zack:

And that scar kicked you. With what? Now, there was no penetration. Okay, it wasn't just, you sure? Yeah, and I still thought that.

Speaker 2:

I still thought of that a long time. It's like fucking. I had a fever or something, maybe you know.

Zack:

So I thought it was just Wow, wow, at least nothing. Yeah, because I was the bird flew Another time when I thought it was like that.

Speaker 2:

I seen like lights, like I think what I saw either then was like ball lightning or Ball lightning. Yeah, what they call that.

Zack:

When I tried, to look at what it was. It was in a storm, the lightning that comes up and goes every direction.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it came in my way. That's what it's called. It's a different kind Plasma lightning or ball lightning. It comes from the ground and goes up and then goes around in the clouds and then comes back down. It did In the window, didn't break the window, came through the window into the house.

Zack:

The lightning did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this glowing orb.

Zack:

I'm pretty sure that wasn't lightning. It lights up.

Speaker 2:

No shit, I know. It still didn't make total sense, but I've heard this.

Zack:

I've heard people say this so what was it? What was it?

Speaker 2:

That's what I hear. The closest thing I hear is ball lightning. Some people would illuminated the room's electricity. I don't know if I can tell you yeah, I can see, oh, hell, no, like I can see the wiring to the lights, to the switches, to the outlets, like glowing, yeah you don't know.

Zack:

You don't know a guy named powder, do you?

Speaker 2:

right, I know that's what I thought and I always I was. I'm trying to try around the same age.

Zack:

Probably. I was like that Albino, probably a preteen. Yeah, yeah, not powder, like you know what I mean. Entertainment purposes only. Sorry, the magic power, not that kind of magic power. Didn't want to fool y'all. Better times up here than you think you know it's not, you know but uh, I swear, it was like the wildest shit.

Speaker 2:

It was enough to make me like look up to stuff, like what could that be? And like, wow, try to like. I try to tell my dad's like what could you know? I swear to god, he wasn't hearing that shit and I didn't. He's like, what did you see? And I told him he's like he wanted to believe by the way I described it like you know like you get my moonshine like there's nothing that should. Why would you? You know? I didn't even. I don't even know. If I knew where the wiring was, then.

Zack:

I'm sure you didn't. Couldn't he just try to explain what you saw?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's what I seen. And then it goes back out the window and never broke the window or anything like that Wow, it's gone.

Zack:

Which it makes you just On a brighter note.

Zack:

So, I know I told Chris this, I don't know if I've told you this there was a church in like 1890, and not a missionary. Nuns had it and they had what was a convent, but it was just like junk. And they finally saved up enough money Enough. People moved to the town. You know what I'm saying. It was like 1850, I believe, in Santa Fe, new Mexico, and so they finally get enough money that they're going to build a church, I mean a nice place for them. So this architect comes in and they explain what they want and it's beautiful I mean beautiful, beautiful place and there's a balcony inside the cathedral, there's a second story and you have to have a staircase that goes up to it, right. So they got this architect and he works and he dies right before he's finished everything but the staircase and he died. And we're talking like 1850.

Zack:

There ain't no telephones. There ain't no. Let's go down here, let's go down to Ace and let them give me a number, somebody I can call. You know what I mean. So they don't know what to do. So they start praying, and you know, uh, uh. And Catholics pray to saints, you know, and there's a carpenter, there's a saint, that's a carpenter. Right now I can't remember his name. It's probably a good detail. I should have.

Zack:

But, you know, it's like Joseph, I believe it is Joseph. But so they start praying for like three months, like 80 nuns praying, getting shit done, two or more. I'm there, so anyway. So about three months later a guy comes up and knocks on the doors and says I'm here to build your staircase. And they're like you know, we're talking about no telephones, no, nothing. And they're like okay, he said, but I have one stipulation no one can come in the church while I'm building the staircase. I got to be alone. And they're like oh, okay, Just happy to have somebody build a staircase. So three months go by and they don't hear no hammering, no, nothing. And they finally go to the doors of the cathedral, they open it up and there's the staircase, a double helix spiral staircase which has no nails, no glue, no nothing. It sits on itself and holds itself up and they use it till this day. The guy is just gone. And they, they're like didn't pay him, not nothing, he's just gone. That's a pair.

Zack:

So they go down to the only lumber yard, probably in the state you know, and they say, hey, we just had this guy come down, builder staircase, we didn't catch where he's from. We need to pay him. He's like what guy? There ain't been nobody coming here to buy lumber? Ain't nobody been here? So that was a story that went along with it for a long time. So recently, the uh uh preacher, or whoever's over it, now decides he's gonna take a step further. They take a core sample of the staircase of the wood. It is then the spruce or sitka family, but there is no other type of tree in the world that matches it in the world, damn so. Who built the staircase? You know what I mean? Who helped them? And and it's, it's beautiful, it's crazy. Look, I showed you picture. Yeah, I seen picture of it.

Speaker 2:

it's got him and it's beautiful, it's crazy.

Zack:

Look, I showed you a picture. Yeah, I seen a picture of it, it's got a solid bottom. It's amazing.

Speaker 2:

Maybe the same dude. You know what I mean. Maybe he came to finish it, yeah.

Zack:

Oh, never thought of it that way. Yeah, could have been. I'm going to finish this staircase.

Speaker 2:

I mean, but that's just, but it doesn't have railing, it doesn't have nothing.

Zack:

It sits on itself. It's like one solid tree that the dude carved out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah carved out.

Zack:

Maybe he wasn't going to make that unless he died.

Speaker 2:

He had to die to do it.

Zack:

That is final Boy. I changed my mind about what I do for a living. Come back just to build that deck.

Speaker 2:

I'm dead. No, just to finish her off.

Zack:

There ain't no nails, no glue, no well, no, nothing just floats, unexplainable. I think there might be something going on in this building, oh, absolutely. I mean, it gets so cold even in the summertime.

Speaker 2:

It's so cold and freaky over there on that side, that dark side, of course, you know, on the dark side of the moon, over there I, I, and it smells like death well, I was looking at something like that, not even on purpose, but uh, yesterday or today there was it's like one of the unexplained where, but the most haunted place or whatever in america. Uh, it's like in kentucky and it's a bit.

Speaker 2:

It used to be a hospital, it was like a sanitarium yeah yeah, I've heard of that and it's like by far like they made it to a motel now or some shit.

Zack:

Yeah, it looks like a it's an old hospital I mean they sell that therefore yeah yeah but, and I think uh I mean, yeah, come to chila katha, eat it loves and go stay at a haunted hospital and there's like, there's like two ghosts or something you better believe people to do that shit.

Speaker 2:

I know hey, I ain't gonna say it's not like two presents that are like almost. They said this one hallway. You can roll this ball into this room and it comes back, oh yeah.

Zack:

Hey man, I'm going to tell you right now there's a house in Vernon this is for real dude and both of them tell the same stories about what has happened in the house and it's crazy and it's nuts. And he'll be looking tv and hear something and look in the reflection of the tv and in the kitchen is an old lady, a young girl and about a lady that's about 30, but they look like something's just wrong. I mean, like I'm like what he's like. Really you can see, turn around and there's nothing there. So he started filming, putting his phone on record just to catch this shit. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing about on record just to catch this shit.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying? That's the thing about that phone Boy. You can catch some shit. I'm going to tell you right now.

Zack:

And he started doing that. So he gets up, hears something outside one night. He gets up and looks at the people and he doesn't see nobody. So what he did is he opens the blinds and takes a picture. Doesn't stick his head out. Bam takes a picture man. So in the mirror on the driver's side of his Chevrolet pickup is a woman's face, like the ugliest, scariest-looking lady you've ever seen in your entire life. Looking back at him through the mirror, right at him. Okay, that's hey been sitting there playing, playing pool in a fork, come flying out of the kitchen across the floor hungry are you?

Zack:

it's time to.

Speaker 2:

It's time to vacate the premises yeah, get some holy water, do something. But uh, you know, there's just so many unexplained things, I think I I need to make a room so people can do that here yeah, you don't remember that time we seen that man on the road like her for sure it's raining yeah, I do remember, but you better tell it, because I don't remember the good as you do uh, it's after me and drape.

Speaker 2:

We were in love. I think we lived in love, but we're visiting, probably, or? We just came back, maybe when we just moved back. I think we just moved back and it's that big rain, the, the mirror was kind of blurry it was big rains. We just poured for days. It had like a nine-inch rain and a ten-inch rain.

Zack:

I remember that that's when it flooded.

Speaker 2:

It was that summer and it was raining one night I was working at State.

Zack:

Was there nails in between what I was working at State at?

Speaker 2:

that time I think we were just going to make a drag around 2006 or something. We were just driving around, you know, and uh, it was just pouring rain, we weren't there? We weren't. We were pretty, we were just past the cemetery, we weren't.

Speaker 2:

We were somewhere between the cemetery and your, your dad's house grandparent's house remember and like it's just I mean, you can barely see, you know like maybe just the headlights, not even because it's just pouring rain. And uh, as we're going, because we're probably going like 50, 55, not even that fast probably, then the speed limit was that I think, yeah, really, but uh, probably want to slow her neck because it's raining, and then we're like kind of you know, talking or fucking around whatever, and then we drive by and there's this is what I saw and we had was. It looked like just like a kind of old-timey dude in a raincoat and he had a lantern and he's just sitting there I don't remember that.

Zack:

Yeah, he's doing this. That's the night watchman, bro. I can tell you who that is and, uh, they used to walk around chillicothe like that I'll tell you another story on top of this, right here we just we stopped like that, like I mean, we stopped right then and like because it was like did you see what?

Speaker 2:

and then what did you see? What did you see? Well, and it's like damn, you know, there's an old man with a hat and carrying here.

Zack:

Was he carrying it up here?

Speaker 2:

and he just went and he had like at his chest, I think like right about here or his here, and then he was just waving, but it wasn't waving like stop did y'all stop and go back and we fucking looked all over for him.

Speaker 2:

We fucking looked all over for him. There was no vehicle that let. We stopped like that too. We stopped like that, turned around, couldn't find him. We looked around more, couldn't find him. And it was pouring rain. Who the fuck was out there in the pouring rain? And they weren't stop. That's what we thought at first too. That's why we started hitting the brakes, and that's what we talked about too. Well, they weren't even.

Zack:

It was like waving, like hey. So I'm going to go ahead and add on to this little story. One time I was leaving Chillicothe, texas, right here, went by this hospital, which is owned by Chris Love, which owns Love's Barbecue, by the way. It, which is owned by Chris Love, which owns Love's Barbecue, by the way, it's a delicious place to eat, I guarantee you you'll always come back and ring a bell, but anyway. So I get right up here to the lot and there is a dude. But there's this guy. He's walking butt-ass naked, bro, not even thinking about having a stitch on Old dude, and he's got his hand like this and he's saying his hand like this and he's saying all is well. And I'd recognize who it was. Once I get up beside him I was like it's like fucking midnight, cold as fuck. I'm like whoa.

Zack:

And I wrote one day. I said, hey, what you doing, man? He's making my rounds. I I said, okay, you cold. He said it is a little chilly tonight. I was like, hey, how about you get in? And I think you just finished your round, let me take you to the house.

Zack:

And I recognized who it was. It was Stubby Rich's daddy. You know Stubby's. You know from Chilli Gather. You know who the hell Stubby is, but anyway, it's his dad, dad and he would live to be an ancient dust. You know, lived right behind the elementary forever. You know that house, remember that house used to be right there. Yeah, it's not there, no more. It's where the, it's where the basketball courts are. Now he, that's what he did when he was younger like used to be the night watchman, like walked around and check every door in town and that's what he was doing. But you know he's see now, you know he thought he was doing it, but he was doing it a whole lot different than he did back in the day he was he was completely naked and I was like man, you need to go to the house.

Zack:

Bro, let me take you home. And it took some talking and get him in my, my vehicle and, uh, I mean, it's kind of, you know, got to be from a small town to put a naked dude in your pickup.

Zack:

Yeah, trying to pick him up, oh yeah, but you know, freaky things happen, man, Just speaking of reigning people on the side of the road. Me and my daughter Zoe my youngest we're going to Chillicothe to go to get something from Dairy Queen and come back and it's like Thanksgiving or Christmas I can't remember what it was, but everybody's at the house. So we go to town and there's this guy pushing a shopping cart.

Speaker 2:

Down the road.

Zack:

Down the road and I always used to pick up hitchhikers and take them past the farm so they don't walk down there. It's close enough to the highway that people tend to. If they break down they'll come down to the house, whatever. So I took him past right, so that's what I did normally. So I went to town, got what I was coming back, and coming back it was pouring rain by the time we were coming back and this dude he's made it about 200 yards maybe, and now he's got his shirt tied around his head. I mean, I'm talking, it's not raining a little bit, it's raining a bunch. Cats and dogs do so. Zoe is like two years old, maybe three, sitting, of course, you know, not in a chair, sitting standing up on the console, you know that type of shit. But anyway. So I pull over because he's like right before the road. I'm like I gotta get this dude past the farm, everybody's down there. So I said hold on and on and I got out of the vehicle and this shopping cart dude. I said okay. I said I'll give you a ride. My intentions were give him a ride to Vernon, drop him off and turn around and come back, you know. So jump out in the rain. He unloads some shit out of his shopping cart. We drop the tailgate, put the shopping cart. We dropped the tailgate, put the shopping cart back there and there's this satchel that folded up. It's a leather thing that folded up. And I reached down there to pick that up, dude, and it it stopped me. It was that heavy, whatever the hell it was. I don't know what it was, didn't look, but I mean talking heavy, heavy and uh. So he said he said I got that, I got that. He picked it up, puts it in the deal. He gets, gets in and we're riding. He's soaking ass, wet dude. We're unwrapping the shirt from his head. My three-year-old daughter is sitting right here. I slid her over to me, you know, and I said where are you coming from? He said Amarillo. I said where are you going? He said I said what he said. I said okay.

Zack:

So I picked Zoe up and I moved her to the, you know, the door, the driver's side door between me and the door, and this dude is soaking wet dude. And he looks up, he looks straight out the window and he starts shaking his head like a dog and then he takes his hand and slaps himself harder than you. Watch them contest on on, you know tiktok with a slapping contest. That's how hard he hit himself and zoe looked at me and said why he do that and I said I don't know. And then he did it to the other and he slapped himself in the ear.

Zack:

Bro, I'm talking about getting the water out of his head, bro. That's what he was doing. He was shaking, turning and he hit himself in the ear. I mean, like you don't want to get like a mule kicks a barn, bro, like pow, his eyes got this big, so why you do that? I was like I don't know. I moved him over here, I reached down and I grabbed it. I always carried a buck knife, had a hole in it and I pulled it up out of the sheath and I had it right there. And he slaps himself on the other side of the head towards the glass, hits his head on the glass and looks straight back up and goes should I, should I, should I kill him? That just came out of this guy's mouth. That just slapped himself harder than I damn sure don't want to be slapped. You know what I'm saying? And so what did I do? I punched it and he's sitting there looking staring off. I'm getting up to the rest area.

Zack:

And he goes he goes no really, should I kill him Staring out the windshield Boy? I hit that exit and locked it down. I said get the fuck out, get out right now. And I reached down there and I grabbed that knife and I stuck that knife in the damn ceiling of my truck. I said I don't know, should you, should you kill us? You know, get out of my truck right now, get the fuck out.

Zack:

As soon as he stepped out, I took the keys out, locked the doors, closed the doors, dropped that damn tailgate and I guarantee you, I Hercules that son of a bitch. I grabbed a hold of that damn shopping cart and threw it a good 20 foot and it hit and shit went everywhere. And he goes oh man, is the ride over? I'm like, oh man, is the ride over? I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, the ride is over. So I called the sheriff and I said hey, this is what just happened. He said, okay, thank you, you know they picked him up, took him to the other county line, the other side, but anyway, that's the last time I picked up a hitchhiker.

Zack:

He slapped himself and then looked straight ahead and said should I kill them? And I've got my three-year-old beside me. The message is here do not pick up a hitchhiker, Well at least not with your three-year-old yeah.

Speaker 2:

Proceed with caution.

Zack:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. This ain't no party like a PE Diddy party. That's just crazy, man.

Zack:

When Steve Harvey flees the country when Family Feud guy leaves the country because he don't want to be Family Feuding. That's crazy dude. This shit, that's going on, hey, hey, hey, you know, I figured it out. Hey, I figured it out. I thought about this the other day, you know. I said how could a person be able to use that influence to do this shit like he did? Then I got to thinking man, wait a second, this has been going on forever, bro. Hey, meet me at the crossroads, baby. He's the dude that meets you at the crossroads. So this is what you need to do Sign your soul away. Boom. There it is, bro.

Speaker 2:

That's what he is now. He's the one dude that got caught he's bellsabob. You know what I'm saying I mean, we think we don't know. About what do we not know?

Zack:

yeah, oh, ones that don't know, used to be used to be a joke a long time that if you were going to be a male actor in hollywood and make it famous that you had a suck a dude. Yeah, I mean, I thought that was just it. Just you know that rumor was going around and it's gone around forever. You know what I'm saying and I'm like that's crazy. I'm not acting, shit and you had to play as a woman well then, all that shit happened.

Speaker 2:

Right thing that harvey weinstein oh, it was for real. He was making everybody say all the common comedians, and uh had to play a woman.

Zack:

All the comedians. You had to be a woman in a movie and make a movie as a woman. Oh, mrs doubtfire, right all that that's craziness think about how many comedians did that?

Speaker 2:

so you know, robin williams, lady gaga, murphy you know, lady gaga came out.

Zack:

I mean how? Could how famous do you have lady gaga bipedity? She got sexually assaulted by them, oh yeah, you know it's nuts dude, and the bad thing about it is I don't know who the fuck I can listen to anymore.

Speaker 2:

You know, can you?

Zack:

snore, kelly. You know, feel bad about it, like damn it. What is he talking about?

Speaker 2:

What Hard not to have a thought in your head.

Zack:

All right, hold up Can't not remember that it's the remixing.

Speaker 2:

It's some damn ghost.

Zack:

It's some damn devil, devil mama rolling that body got every man in here you know them ghosts, some of them are devils.

Zack:

Yeah, I don't know. Oh, hey, most of them are. I'm gonna tell you right now. Hey, I don't. Spirit of fear, you know. But you know the angel of light, which is what the devil will appear to be when he comes to talk to your ass. He will fool you. He can appear to be the angel of light. You know he's the angel of light. He can, he can be whatever you need at that point in time. That goes back to Kenneth Copeland.

Zack:

I tell you that story, kenneth Copeland, the guy that he what's it called when you go under, and he was his mentor. Yeah, he got cancer, real bad when he's old. He started this chemo and stuff. Kenneth Copeland's huge, he's like man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And next thing, you know, he's like man. I hadn't been to see him in a long time. I need to go see him. So he went to go see him.

Zack:

The preacher that showed him how to do what he does one of the most famous people, preachers ever. And he said how are you doing? He said I'm doing good, I'm doing great. He said how's your treatment going? He said I quit. He said what he said, that's saving your life. What do you mean? You quit? He said I quit because let me tell you what happened the other night.

Zack:

God sent an angel. He came down, he set the foot of my bed and said hey, and he said his name. He said hey, you've done your job. You brought many souls to God. It's time for you to go to heaven and sit by me. And he said so, hey, I quit doing my treatment. You know, you know, he told me I was good. You know, and he kind of comes in. Are you stupid. You know he will appear to be whatever you need at this time. How do you know? That's what that was? That's just something. Because the treatments hurt, so you really don't want to do them anyway. So this is where the devil dresses up as an angel and comes down and says, hey, hell yeah, you're good, bro, you don't got to do this, no more.

Zack:

Hell, yeah, go ahead and die. You know why? Because the devil wants anything that has value, anything. So if you're ever going through some terrible times terrible, just think about this it could be because there's value in you that you don't even see yet and the devil wants anything of value. Maybe god has a plan in store for me or for you or for whatever. That is huge, that if we reached that point, if we make it far, that we could just blow his world up. You know, this podcast could go crazy and we could just end up having millions of people start going to church.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying.

Zack:

And finding God. So we don't know that, we don't see that, but maybe the devil does. So all the bad things that's going on in your life. You might be able to contribute that to the devil, because there's a plan in store for you that you just don't know about yet. Yeah he's trying to ruin it and he wants anything of value.

Zack:

Yeah, that's how you got to build strength out of that struggle, a guy by the name of Bill Richards. He was the Texas Artist of the Decade and lived in Chillicothe, texas. He had a man, it was a shaman, it was a witch from way down South America, had long hair, he was dressed, it was spooky I'm talking spooky-looking shit, I'm talking that. I mean he died and he left it to me, to me. He died and uh, he didn't, he left it to me or he. He left a way for them to know that that was going to me right, and I went by, he passed away and I went over there and there's two lawnmowers he had and anyway he left it to, uh, his ex-son, and I mean that he was married to his mom a long time ago. So he left everything he had not to his own kids long time ago. So he left everything he had not to his own kids to this guy which happened to be a highway patrolman. So I get out and I go to talk to him. I said what are you going to do with them lawnmowers? He said you want them, you can have them. He said I worked on them so much about two hours. You can start them up, you can have them. I fired them both up about and, uh, he got.

Zack:

I said what'd you do with that old, wooded, wooden man? He said that freaky looking son of a bitch. Matter of fact, what's your name? I said exactly. He said here it's yours, there you go. So I take it to the house. I'm talking, it's freaky looking dude. There's not a, it's, it's a, it's a like a gargoyle, wooden gargoyle, and it sits like this and in indian no, cross-legged, I've got a picture of it. Freak you out, I mean. And I took it and I I took it home. And before I took it home, uh, I went to spanish people. They don't, uh, beatrice, uh, anyway, I won't say the name, so her daddy doesn't hardly speak english.

Zack:

I took this over there and I wanted to ask him what it was, because nobody could tell me what it was. And I said would you come look at something? I bid a and he went over there and I popped the back of that hatchback on that Ford Explorer. He said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and just started walking backwards as fast as he could, went into his house and shut the door. I'm like, okay, okay, what does that got here.

Zack:

So I took it from there, put it on the trailer, strapped it down and took it to to vernon to talk to another person. And uh, I took it to a friend of mine and I said, hey, man, I want you to tell me what this is. And he comes out and he sees it. He said, oh, god bless. He said where'd you get that at? I said, man, I left it to me. He said, oh, man, that's not good. I said what's it called? He said, man, I can't remember the name, but if my mama was here she would be slapping you. And uh, what it was is they used to put that up around places that they didn't want people to go around it. I mean everybody, I mean spanish people, were scared to death of this thing. I mean, like, so bad a semi wouldn't even pass me. Save it 100 yards past behind me.

Zack:

I'm serious dude so uh and he said I said so you're scared of? He said no, I'm not scared of it. And he had a little bitty son about three. We're sitting there talking. His son comes outside, jumps up on that trailer and he heard him, he heard something on the trailer. Turn around, look, he's fixing to touch that thing. He goes to screaming like a damn somebody going I mean like a banshee no, no, don't touch it, don't touch it, don't touch it. I said I thought george k said don't touch it. So I was like damn he said man, you gotta go, so time to go.

Zack:

So I took that home, of course, and uh, I put it on top of the girls clubhouse. You know that treehouse I built, drilled it right there and uh, my mom said you need to get that, you need to get I don't know what that. Uh, my mom said you need to get this, you need to get I don't know what that is, but that's not right, you can get it out of here. I said, man, that's just a damn gargoyle, you know. And uh, I, I said I set the damn demon up there on top of my house sitting there watching everything found. The found the true, hardest way that I mean the one thing that could hurt me. He found. But he was sitting there watching me for years. And after the fact, the girls, I thought you know what, and I had. I thought of that and I got so mad, dude, I went up there and I took a, I took a sledgehammer up there and I hit that thing two or three good times to knock it off the deal.

Zack:

I didn't dent it fell off, hit the ground, didn't break it. I loaded it up, took it out there to that road that cuts between 91 and the Bald Arises old house. You know that road that's got the bridge out there, the nice bridge on the dirt road. Got out there, sit in the middle of that bridge, me and one of the twins, five gallons of gasoline. Five gallons of gasoline, bro. You ever seen what five gallons of gasoline will do? Hey, poured five. Well, about two gallons. I was like I didn't want to get carried away.

Zack:

Then made a little trail to the, to the, to the dirt, about 15 foot, lit that bitch on fire, maybe 20 foot. I got it on my phone video of it. Hey, lights up, dude, I swear to god he smiles. Hey, doesn't turn black, doesn't burn, can't burn it. I put all five gallons of gas on that, so much it wouldn't even char it. I grabbed a hold of that after it. Wouldn't, hey, reach down. After it just went out, nothing burned. I reached down there. I grabbed a hold of that, so much, not hot. Spun around in a circle and, superman, that hoe out in the middle of that damn creek. You know I was like fuck this, fuck this. You know I was mad. Yeah, came back the next day. Guess what it's not. In the fucking creek that son of a bitch grew a pair of legs. I mean, he undid his legs and walked to fucking somebody else's house, and you know, I'm not even slightly exaggerating. I mean, wouldn't burn People scared to death of it.

Zack:

But, I decided I want to put it on top of the girl's clothes. He didn't know. I'm just saying Be careful.

Speaker 2:

Where we're from, you never know you never know what you're going to get a hold of. Oh my God, take a break, he's got to go pee, pee, pee.

Zack:

B-E-Z-P.

Speaker 2:

This is the G.

Zack:

To the B, to the E, to the Z and he to the B, to the E, to the Z, and you gotta pee.

Zack:

Tonight we're gonna say goodbye for the Be Easy podcast and we will be talking to you soon, but until then, I'm Lucky, I'm Earl, I'm Zach, we are the Be Easy podcast and we will see you later. I did write this one. Well, the sun was bright as hell this morning when I opened up the door, I looked back and glanced at the bed we once shared, but we ain't sharing it anymore. So I broke another seal to help this way I feel. But the whiskey ain't working, no more. Ain't working, no more. So what can I do? I can't drink away these blues. I can't do this all on my own. So I tried to count the reasons for her to stay, but can't get past the reasons she wants, and her ring still lays on the dresser to this day, a constant reminder she's gone. So I popped another pill to help this way I feel. But the pills just ain't helping, no more.

Zack:

So what can I do? I can't drug away my blues. I can't do this all on my own, my own. So my mind keeps praying, cause my heart keeps breaking every time it hears a slam of a door. And they say in time, everything will be fine. But the minutes go by so slow. I said these minutes go by so slow. Yeah, they do. Well, there's nothing I can use To forget the words she used when she walked out my door, cause she looked me in the eye and she began to cry and said I'm sorry, I was not the drug to keep you high and numb. That's why my mind keeps praying and my heart keeps breaking every time here's a slam of a door. And they say in time, everything will be fine. But the minutes go by so slow. I said these minutes go by so slow. Yes, they do, lord, they do. Well, there's nothing I can use To get over you. I can't do this all on my own. There's nothing I can use To get over you. I can't do this all on my own.

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