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E-12-The Good Old Days: Navigating Modern Society's Challenges

• Bucky/Earl/Zack • Season 1 • Episode 12

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Zack:

And with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine. This year, well, she turned three. You better grab a hold of something. Hold something, grab your hold of you and don't ask a question if you can't take the truth, cause it might be a question. If you can't take the truth, because it might be a reflection of you.

Earl:

I said it might be a reflection. Alright, coming to you live from the old, abandoned Chillicothe Hospital in Chillicothe, Texas. This is the B to the E to the Z, and that is Be Easy. Be Easy, baby. Yo yo, yo yo. I was thinking that one day like something like that Is that really loud About good old days. Tell us about them.

Earl:

good old days, I don't know they're always in the past. I know that's right.

Earl:

That's why they're good right that's why they're good. That's why they're called good old days.

Earl:

Oh yeah, because the future or the present should have never always that good. Well, it should have never the same huh should have never the same once you've been through other things.

Earl:

It's just always something we're here with the.

Earl:

Now we're at the full bez here I was talking about the past good old days. Yeah, there were some good old days yeah, there have. There have been, but there's different good old days. Are there going to be more?

Earl:

in the future. You know we talked a little bit about that earlier. That's hope. Well, we was also talking about life is too short. Tomorrow is not promised. We don't know what's going to happen. We all better be ready.

Earl:

That's what I was going to say. A lot of people get ready in different ways and the lord said get ready.

Earl:

That's part of it. Yeah, so that's only a piece. Some people get ready by stockpiling food and guns.

Earl:

Well, they're ready for all kinds of shit? Not, they're not ready to die. Yeah, I got something to do. They're not ready. They're not because they're ready to die. That's, that's who somebody's gonna fight for whatever. In a way, you know, a lot of people were survivors that way. Yeah, that's human nature, you know. But then there's some people, yeah, they're extreme, like survivalists and stockpile, and they're ready for yeah zombie apocalypse and well, that's what I was telling.

Earl:

War, war three. Whatever we did. Talk a little bit about that, like maybe I should just turn this into a bunker instead of well, because hey think about the next podcast.

Bucky:

People that do a podcast.

Earl:

Your old hospital bunker yeah, yeah, yeah, in this room I mean podcast. I'll tell you what worries me. A lot is like covid, like the way people, everybody Hospital bunker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in this room, it's a podcast.

Earl:

I'll tell you what worries me a lot is like COVID, like the way people, everybody deal with COVID. Everybody thought everything would go a different way. Fucking people panic.

Earl:

Yeah, and that was not that serious. I mean, a lot of people do yeah, but a lot of that was created.

Earl:

Yes, a lot of hysteria is created.

Earl:

Oh yeah, that was created by our government Like the toilet paper thing, a lot of things I mean not by our government per se. Well, it can be too, but they put the fear in our heads.

Bucky:

Let it go, Let it keep running. To make a lot of people say, oh God, we couldn't die, We've got to have toilet paper. That's the media too.

Earl:

That Dumbest thing I can say One way or the other. But they've always been biased and they're going to even back in the days of TV.

Earl:

It was real clean and what the news was? The news, the media, oh yeah.

Earl:

It's always has a bias and a slant and an agenda. Everything in the world has an agenda. They're all trying to be busy and make money.

Earl:

That's one of the main agendas around To make money. Everybody's out grabbing money because you always want, when you work at your job, you want more time off, more benefits.

Earl:

More, more, more.

Earl:

And that's just in our.

Earl:

That's the society we created at Western Civ. You need more. That's just the op. That's what business is you need to make one penny more tomorrow than you did today.

Earl:

That's why the immigrants come over here and they'll work at Tyson's 20 hours a day and be happy with the salary they get.

Earl:

Yeah, because they know they can get a lot worse. They came a long ways for that. Yeah, they walked. How many miles, Zach?

Bucky:

They can't they're not going to play Honduras 29 days?

Earl:

Well, they probably came through more than that walk. Yeah, they probably walked past some people.

Earl:

Yeah, they said, why don't you say 300 started 60?

Bucky:

A bunch of them died trying to jump on the train at the end of the line to get into California. They jumped on the train, started jumping on the train, got ran over.

Earl:

That's what you're going to try.

Bucky:

Try anything To survive. Get on this ride.

Earl:

Yeah, To come to America To work at Tyson's 20-hour day. Yeah for a chance.

Earl:

Because life can be quite a struggle. I mean it always is. People have their struggles. That's part of the definition we did talk about struggles. We know that. I mean you're going to have your struggles At some point in time. That's why it's always the good old days, because you get more and more struggles as you get older yeah.

Earl:

More and more. It's like we need more.

Bucky:

But that's why you're supposed to also, when we was younger, I didn't have no damn struggles man. I didn't have nothing, but never worried about being stuck out in the country, not not having tv and cable like everybody else did, but never had to work and don't even like some people say we be boxing on the damn uh trampoline well, I mean, that's what a lot of people say.

Earl:

You know they talk about you don't know what you you weren't, you didn't know what you were missing, but I tell you what. There's been plenty of times I know. There's other things you know, but I don't need. There's a simpler way to be, Because that's one simple thing that set everything off.

Earl:

I felt like it was pretty simple back in the day. Well, yeah, because you weren't worried about money.

Earl:

You had no concept of money. You took a lot of things for granted, sure, but that's what you do, but anyway, yeah, we've turned it into where you've got to pay bills and they're going to keep getting higher. You need to make more, you need to do more, you've got to put more hours in, you need to work harder stuff like that We've created that spirit. Well we also created more and more Things. You need things.

Earl:

Well, the woman in the workplace, like when that happens.

Earl:

Yeah, well, that change. Yeah, you need two incomes and stuff like that as far as to get by. Even that's that changed things. Yeah, because used to you didn't. I mean that's you wanted to buy a house and do that, but but was it?

Earl:

was we forced to do that, or was yeah, women were forced to work no, no, not that, yeah, at one point that, yeah, yeah, yeah. And world war ii that's when that really happened, because we wanted more.

Earl:

We were in dutch. Yeah, we couldn't do it without the manpower anymore. All our men were sent to be troops and we put women in the workplace big time they were already, but uh, there weren't. There's a lot of jobs they didn't do. They started putting women in any job.

Earl:

That's like what do they have like rosie riveter and they made a big. When did they start letting women in the military?

Bucky:

It wasn't that long ago.

Earl:

No they still hadn't.

Earl:

It hadn't been that long ago that they let them into combat and stuff. They've only been what? 80s? Oh, it's probably since they lived in combat. No, they were in certain positions, yeah, for a while.

Bucky:

But I'm talking about in the combat.

Earl:

Oh shit, they didn't let that happen until a long time they didn't have that shit, it was not Desert Storm, like whenever they started saying it, it was not long Like.

Zack:

Don't.

Earl:

Ask, Don't Tell. Came right after that. Yeah, it wasn't long before they started. They still don't put, I think, women in certain positions just because they can't.

Bucky:

There are certain physical tests that only men have passed, but you know talking about World War II. After World War II, it didn't matter if you worked at a gas station or if you worked, you were a manager for a bank. Everyone was able to buy their house in profit yeah and have money left over when they died that was the american dream.

Earl:

That was then. That's when that came about. That hadn't always been a thing to I. You should have a house and you should do this, and then your kids should do better. You know, that's another idea. How's that gonna work?

Earl:

it don't it's not Well. In this song he talks about this same. Listen to this, or? I know you heard it. Oh yeah, it is. It's true man. The new world, the new world.

Bucky:

He ain't people like us, no more though.

Earl:

Huh, no, that's what he's talking about, an old soul.

Bucky:

There's not as many in the no more. I promise you that.

Earl:

Oh yeah.

Bucky:

They offered him an $8 million record contract and he turned it down.

Earl:

Yeah, he's turned down money, yeah. And I don't know how long he'll hold out.

Bucky:

No, he ain't holding out, he's already on the road right now. He's performing already. Yeah.

Earl:

I mean, he's just doing it his way though.

Bucky:

Yeah, I'll bet.

Earl:

He's getting paid.

Bucky:

But $100,000 to show something stupid, Right?

Earl:

but he's not just taking, like, say, $8 million contract for somebody to do what they want with him To change his stuff.

Bucky:

Yeah, change his stuff. He's doing his own material so that's good.

Earl:

He needs this or that.

Earl:

Because once you sign that contract, you're doing what they want.

Bucky:

Oh yeah, not doing what you want anymore it don't even matter.

Earl:

Well, yeah, just like, how about your? They've created it where you got to pay bills, you got bills and it's ongoing.

Earl:

You got to keep cash flowing. I was listening to a podcast, maybe or something, about the music deal and about how you know by the time I don't remember what band it was on, but like they went on tour and stuff and then when they got done, like the producer, the promoter.

Bucky:

Elvis Presley.

Earl:

Gave them a bill and it's like oh, damn yeah. What? Yes for the room? I mean because they didn't pay for nothing while they was on it. Everything was taken care of. But then, when it was over, they're like okay, it's time to get paid. And they're like when it was all over.

Zack:

it was like Nothing left.

Earl:

Yeah, they were stealing it. Of course you know Elvis Presley's manager made more than Elvis Presley did. Because they show you hotel meals, women All this stuff costs money. Nothing's free Alcohol is not free. So they're charging damn crazy prices and when it's all said and done, you ain't got no money Doing that 30% markup on it after they get it.

Earl:

Yeah, and they just rob you blind. And a lot of them guys sign them contracts, don't know what you're signing and just get taken advantage of ECE, nwa, their producer, that white guy took all their money yeah that's why they left him. It's the old day money. That's what it's all about.

Bucky:

Speaking of podcasts, what's that little deal that my wife sent? Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Zack:

It's the podcast of them ever it. Oh yeah I forgot about that.

Bucky:

This podcast never started, easy peasy. I wonder what she's trying to say with that little.

Earl:

We're not the Tard Pod, we're the B-E-Z, the B-E-Z. We're being easy today. We're trying not to get too deep dark. We've talked about good old days. We talked about god. We talked about let's talk about.

Bucky:

Let's talk about 10 million miles. Oh, we're talking about the immigrants that come in girl. Yeah, hey, did you see that where?

Earl:

tyson's laid off like how many, how many jobs 1,500. 1,500 jobs and replaced them with immigrants.

Bucky:

Yeah, yes, they.

Earl:

I thought it was like 12. I thought it was more than that dude.

Bucky:

Somebody said maybe it was 15,000.

Earl:

I think it was 15,000, bro.

Bucky:

Somewhere in New York, tyson's in New York, wherever it's at. They laid off 15,000 so they could hire.

Earl:

Wait a minute. Okay, we hear about that now, but what have they been doing in Vernon in the last five years? Oh yeah, it's like yeah.

Bucky:

Egg farm Come on.

Earl:

But I'm saying how many on? It's a lot, slowly and surely, burmese that have come to Vernon, yeah.

Earl:

They've been doing that a while. Cubans, they did it with Cubans. They've done that a few times. It has some different groups.

Bucky:

But here's the deal.

Earl:

Take jobs from us but. Zach was saying the government's paying them to do that.

Earl:

Subsidized? Oh, probably.

Earl:

So, yeah, they're subsidized, so it's actually making them more money by hiring these immigrants to hire me or you and it's cheaper.

Earl:

It's cheaper for them.

Earl:

Yeah, it's cheaper.

Earl:

It's cheaper to have them, not buy them, but to pay them.

Earl:

Well, basically Then, the government is paying them to hire them, so they're getting double paid.

Bucky:

They're getting a better. They're getting it for way cheaper. They're almost getting free labor. It's a form of slavery. Dude.

Earl:

It's like indentured servants work.

Earl:

You know what I mean. We didn't come right out of slavery. It's not like slavery, but we didn't come right out of it either. We had indentured servants.

Earl:

We didn't just throw those people out either, but we didn't come right out of it either, sweatshop. We didn't just throw those people out either. We started having indentured servants and having a lot of other stuff. There was Jim Crow. It was social. We didn't have not even equal rights. Still, look how society is, treats people, whatever, like you know, white, black, hispanic there's some major categories still racism that are left over from shit like that. Oh yeah, like what was it 60s before they, you know, brought up in the school, desegregation of schools, even though we ended slavery 100 years before you know?

Earl:

there was the two-thirds. We're just now like, okay, that's okay.

Earl:

Yeah, that was okay. Right, that was the thinking.

Bucky:

And a lot of it had to do with the poverty separation the most that's the major separation of any.

Earl:

That's why how you live in neighborhoods and stuff they're but that's, that's why the government created welfare. I feel like yeah I don't know if they created them that way, but that's what turned into, that's why it turned into, and they didn't change it well, there's different because, because, yeah, they've had it.

Earl:

There's always going to be that, though that's part of it. You got to accept some people that are going to skirt the system, they're going to cheat it. Yeah, there, there's gonna be a certain amount of that, but it when everybody's doing something wrong and do you know what I mean when it gets to a point to where you got to turn things the other way around. Uh, because that's I mean it has a good intent and things like that. It's probably set up and it helped. A lot of people still does but now we're using it to help immigrants.

Earl:

Yeah, I don't go seeking it out, dude I, I think illegal immigrants, not the immigrants.

Bucky:

You know what I'm saying.

Earl:

Yeah, they're not even Well if they're working over here are they illegal.

Earl:

They don't even have work visas.

Earl:

I mean they're in the process of. Yeah, they're here because they're waiting to see if they're going to get, but they're working while they're here. Yeah, there's different.

Bucky:

Oh yeah, there's people that come in and never to make them voters.

Earl:

Let's see we'll get this all out there. Uh, yeah, they're about that's exactly. Well, they're gonna be a taxpayer too, are they? Well, yeah, they're gonna come and have a job somewhere there's gonna be some taxes coming to that. That's more than nothing for the government.

Earl:

They just need a one percent markup. So you think the government is holding taxes out of their checks.

Bucky:

Like me and you, absolutely yeah, they are yeah okay, yeah, they're still taxed they're gonna going to get income taxed.

Earl:

Every dollar is taxed, even those rich people.

Bucky:

They're going to get Social Security now. See, that's it. That's how they make them legal right there.

Earl:

Once they get that number.

Earl:

That's some of the stuff like, if you start looking at the death tax and stuff like that that Trump argues against, that's just pretty much the way it is. They're gonna take their part. You can't gift everybody. You can give certain parts, but it's expensive. Yeah, oh, the government's taking your money. That's like yes, and they're gonna take it all eventually. Yes, uh, they really do like the death tax and stuff like that. That's how they can only get it to go so much and everybody says that's like wrong, but that ain't gonna change probably.

Earl:

That is terrible. That death tax is dumb. All that inheritance tax, all that like yeah, if somebody died and left me two million dollars. I get inherited, I get tax, all that If somebody died and left me $2 million.

Bucky:

I get taxed on that, yeah 30%.

Earl:

Yeah, or whatever.

Earl:

It's not just cash like that, but they've already been taxed on it.

Bucky:

Then you have to pay for the land that you get. You've got to pay the taxes on that shit.

Earl:

And then, from then on, it's a damn crock. For your life.

Earl:

That's how most of them. They're not. The government's going to get their dollar. You're going to die and they're going to keep grinding the wheel. Yeah, if you die, they're just going to get your property. Yeah, well, I mean, everybody's going through it. That's what they're doing all the time. What happens to all these people that? You know, everybody has all these off to some of these companies, the company store yeah, they are, I'm telling you right now you know they go, they even does go back to that.

Bucky:

You know, think about it. They used to. They used to go to work in the mines, you know, and there was only one store in the mine.

Earl:

Yeah, and a little town that's right.

Bucky:

So everybody had to buy their food and stuff there, and by the time that they were done working they didn't. They got all their wages and then still owed them.

Earl:

Yeah, or you got all your wages and you had the one place to spend it anyway. What was your option? Oh well, you know, beans went from $10 a bag to $50 a bag. What are you going to do? They found their ways. It's an opportunist thing. That's the cutthroat nature of business and that's what we have here. A lot of the world makes fun of America for thinking that we could just have free capitalism and get away with it. You know, that's what we don't see, that a lot of the world does see. That's even. You know. We don't understand how people wake up under communist rules. A lot of people won't be told what to do. They just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Man, I'll fall in line. I'll fall in line.

Earl:

Just tell me what I'll do. It's not a terrible thing, and people have lived that way a long way. You know a long time whether it be a king that tells them that or whatever official elected.

Earl:

Yeah, most people want to be told A lot of people want to.

Earl:

Yes, they want to know what they're supposed to do. Well, it's really a whole lot of people. They don't know any different, unless they're told. They can't figure shit out on their own.

Earl:

Yeah, some people need to be told yeah, some people need to be told yeah, sure, sure, sure.

Earl:

And some people need to be controlled. Yes, it's not. But, it's not an absolute each way. That's the intricacies of society.

Bucky:

Eric, yeah, sold my soul to the company store. The company store thing Is that the name. Sold my soul.

Earl:

Yeah, see, a lot of stuff came. We thought we had remember when unions got big, because business was ruthless and people were dying, they didn't care. Building railroads and shit like that, you took into account how many people you were going to lose. Building a bridge, that's right, you know. Those are just things that were, and so that's why unions came around. And then what did they do? But take it the other direction. You know the word. People have all these routes and don't do nothing. They fought too hard for the labor. You know, it's just. That's the nature of the business is to always go from one until you fuck it up you build a hundred bridges you know that joke doesn't it okay.

Bucky:

So yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy yeah, it could be worse, though, could it be?

Earl:

yeah, we could have lived during the Great Depression. That was pretty bad, but we don't know what time we're going to live in now.

Earl:

Well, we're still in an ice age.

Earl:

A hundred years is going to be like damn they lived during COVID.

Earl:

Yeah.

Earl:

Because it was pretty bad.

Bucky:

See, people don't even talk about the swine flu and it's three can you imagine that?

Earl:

yeah, yeah, there's been some other crazy stuff, like there's been some ebola. I break out instead of at least been small.

Zack:

That shit's terrible oh and that was the nature of business.

Earl:

That yeah, they'd move in a little town and that they were. All that was there. You're right, there was a store and everything and that's, and it's that way. Even if they don't, they're still in control of all your shit.

Earl:

We've got that now, walmart you got to have it now, amazon right now.

Earl:

What do I work for?

Bucky:

I'm trying to work for medical insurance amazon, hey man, but if you got stocks in amazon, you're doing pretty good brother if you bought them early david could date. You know, that's one thing david did.

Earl:

They've got it on that yep, speculation and things like that. It's probably a little bit better, especially if you have inside information.

Earl:

Yes, oh, that's that's why it's so crazy the stock market's so crazy because there's too many people know and you can create a situation like gamestop created that situation oh yeah, got a lot of people rich, real rich and was it legal? I don't know no, I don't know that much about it so, but there was some trading information going and people knew about it and it created yeah, yeah, is it ethical?

Earl:

that's no business ethics, or well, it's ethnic if you're on the winning side of it is, but if you're not, you're like the bastards stole my money, yeah, well it's who's gonna say, well, yeah, who draws lines where?

Earl:

who's what? Who's doing wrong? It's not me, not. There's a lot of wrong done that ain't illegal. Hey, that's what some people only. That's what I watch that show.

Earl:

Sometimes it comes on. I don't know what it's called american greed. Have you ever watched it? It's just dude, you have to look it up sometime. It's like a series. They have a little series on, say, joe blow over here was a you know running a potsy scene scheme on all these people taking their money. Oh, the crooks, or what yeah, oh it's all about, and it's all about money.

Earl:

Yeah.

Earl:

About all the money. Like I call you up and say, hey, I'm fixing to open this older bed in the hospital here, I'm fixing to make 55 rooms in it and blah blah and I need.

Bucky:

So much money. I need your $10,000, $100,000 to help me out bro, Can you help me?

Earl:

Sure man, here's $100,000. It's going to make all this money. I promise you I'll take it and spend it.

Bucky:

Jet skis yeah.

Earl:

But they do that to so many people and I mean I'm talking about like millions of dollars they're scheming out of people, yeah.

Earl:

There's big dollars like that and there's a little bit at a time, yeah, at a time, yeah, you can do it however you want.

Earl:

But I mean, these people have the lifestyle, lavish lifestyle. They had to get millions and so they were scheming so many people and finally, you know, a few years, five years, it all falls usually.

Bucky:

But knowing they're only going to go spend like four years in jail.

Earl:

In a federal jail, yeah, yeah. They're not going in the yard to hang out with the thugs like you're going to a damn I'm gonna go rocket robinson yeah so they might have bought them a good time and they might have stashed some of that money a lot of them do.

Earl:

Yeah, sure they do and it's all.

Earl:

And that's the name of the show.

Earl:

A lot of money stashed here.

Earl:

That's where it's going away from you gotta watch it sometime it's actually literally crazy how they scheme people out of their money there's any which way you can think of um, or there's most of it there's crazy things, people, most of it's all investing like these people get turned on to these guys that are trying to invest in the companies yeah, it's a bigger idea.

Earl:

Yeah, so we're gonna take your little money and turn it into bigger, big money that's all it's about but they're just taking it straight, yeah they're not.

Earl:

They might put a little bit like I'm building all these rooms in here. I'm might get one room done.

Bucky:

The rest of it I'm taking, and they make you think that they're doing something.

Earl:

Yeah, and they keep sending reports saying, oh, my money's growing this much. And then finally they get like a whiff of something going on, like I'm going to take my money out now, and they're like well, it's been a problem. I can't get your money until next week. Okay, Next week comes, you still ain't got no money. Then it turns into like these motherfuckers stole my money.

Earl:

Well, it's like when the housing market what was it? 2008 or whatever from having. They were intentionally giving people that couldn't pay these loans money. Yeah, and then what they would do? You would take it and you gambled. You said these are going to fail. You would take them on for whatever it left and you ended up making money On their failures Because these would fail. You would say, hey, these are the bad and you knew they were when they did them and it's like taking insurance on them. It was a legal thing, it's like a loophole and they played it, had it all set up until they pulled the system.

Earl:

And they had to come in and do something. It was about the whole economy.

Earl:

Yeah.

Earl:

The government always, and they were promising them the American dream. There was a lot of, you know, cheap mortgages and stuff like that and they were just giving everybody yeah, yeah, no one you up going to get it paid. Yeah, that was part of the deal was actually. It was the actual idea of the business was to give these loans? Yes, they told them. Yeah, lower your standards a little.

Earl:

Let's get these car deals kind of like that too, like repo one over and over, kind of. You know you're going to sell somebody for whatever, because you're going to go.

Earl:

These banks ended up with all these houses, yeah, and resold well and way more money yeah, well, people also made other money. Individuals made money hedging on that the way that it works and it's not, I don't entirely understand I don't either.

Earl:

David would be the one.

Earl:

Yeah, it's kind of like having insurance. It's kind of like insuring something and knowing it's gonna fail. You know it kind of that's crime. Uh, farmers do that. Have there's been fraud?

Earl:

you say you planted this or say this and that happened, and claim the insurance on it, stuff like that I mean, I do just I do a little bit of farming myself, but I have yet to uh partake in any of them things that you've talked about but it happens, uh. So I don't know that much about all that. But different scales? Yeah, it's, it's on big money scales. What farming is? Yeah, well, because yes, the numbers look big.

Earl:

They're inflated because anything was farming is they're ballooned, they're, yeah, they're ballooned. There ain't no little, it's just, it's no. Everything in farming is big. Oh, as far as like the expenses, oh yeah everything in farming is, yeah, big money income income.

Earl:

Yeah, yeah, it all goes back inside yeah, there's no profit margin.

Earl:

No, you're trying to pay for what you did already. Yeah, it's all you're hoping you're. You're playing the weather it's actually it's like gambling.

Earl:

It's actually the bigger yeah, it is gambling with larger amounts of money.

Earl:

Some people have just got maybe better experience at it or better at checking the weather.

Earl:

I think a lot of it. There is some skill to farming but there is a lot of luck.

Earl:

There's a lot of luck. It has to rain. There's some people that don't work hard enough. It has to rain at the right time.

Earl:

It has to be dry.

Earl:

You know like certain things have to happen. You got to be ready for whatever kind of.

Bucky:

That's why you got to look at that almanac.

Earl:

Well, that and uh like I said, just to be ready. A lot of folks are like nah, you know what I'm tired. Next, that's like a lazy thing, as it used to be. That's the old way. That lazy was the problem.

Earl:

Yeah, the farmer, you better get out there and be ready for whenever you got to be ready to do it or you got to be ready.

Earl:

You know, and you got to have your shit ready. There's other work to be done in the meantime, you have to be ready at all times whereas you know I mean, there's different kinds of dirt farming and then there's like anymore, they don't irrigation you can't make your own way doing that anymore. Yeah, now it's industrialized yes, other things.

Earl:

It is hard for small farmers it's industrialized farming as far as uh, any agriculture, anything besides, uh, wheat and cotton, I mean any kind of agro. Uh, they're all of our animal dairy, I mean. Around here there's a lot really agriculture you got dairies and and uh, those are huge around here in texas.

Earl:

Of course I got I run a lot of cattle yeah, there's egg farm grazing, uh, other people grow crops and all that.

Earl:

But and it changes right here. What's good. You remember? I saw, I think, somebody over there. They got some canola. Remember when that was everywhere. I forgot about that. Remember how that was a thing for a while.

Bucky:

They made a bunch of money off canola. Yeah, but just for a while, a couple years.

Earl:

And it was everywhere. They did that too. What else was it?

Earl:

There was something else like that, to do hemp like around here, but it just hasn't taken off and I don't know if it's because the government's not subsidizing it, because they do everything else I'm getting that greenhouse.

Bucky:

We're gonna talk about that well, yeah, that's no.

Earl:

But like this hemp is like grown like. Like you would canola like big fields of it.

Bucky:

It's not.

Earl:

It's not for flower no, it's for industrial purposes like but what kind of hemp is it?

Earl:

made it's kind of like rope and shit, I don't know.

Bucky:

Rope and fibers and stuff. So it's not. It's not it's because it's called hemp.

Earl:

Yeah, it's still got THC. Probably it's got THC in it, but it's. Then they breed out the strains. Yeah, it's kind of like a.

Earl:

It's like a different breed. It's a different breed. Yes, it does have THC, they test it and they're like this is 13.3%.

Bucky:

You've got to destroy the whole crop, sir, yeah.

Earl:

Like if it's above a certain level, you can't have it, you can't harvest it, so they make you destroy it, so they control it, and I just don't think it's taken off here. They were actually supposed to build a plant in wichita that that would, you could take it to when you harvest it and they would refine it whatever they do. You like a cotton?

Bucky:

jam. It'd be a hemp.

Earl:

Yeah, I don't know how they process it, but it'd be a bunch of weed going at the back door. Yeah, I mean this is, but no, you, you actually harvest it before it flowers.

Earl:

So it's just a fiber, it's just yeah. It's why it has less in it too. They're yeah, it's not the flower, it's just the hemp leaves and the stem. It's like I think you know, it's like you've always heard this stuff, like hemp, makes like you can make the pulp of it makes like way less. It takes way less of it to make more paper there's a lot of shit to it.

Earl:

It's like a crazy. It can be used, but yeah.

Bucky:

People be smoking the paper.

Earl:

No, it wouldn't have that, not even that.

Earl:

And why do you think they'd fight that? Just because it's related to the same thing. It's hard for them to control Because it's hard for them to have that fear. That's why it's hard for them to control it.

Earl:

Because they have to come test it and do all that stuff, it's hard for them to control it. Yeah.

Earl:

That's why Because, like I said, back in the old days of high times they were always preaching the good things about weed of people the subculture knew. Uh, that was used for good yeah, there's plenty of people that know? Oh no, it's not this evil thing. Reefer madness was a thing you ever seen, that a propaganda thing that was like they put that in.

Earl:

Well, they tried to say schools, and I mean, I'm not dead, yeah oh you know, little jenny, she was a perfectly good little worldwide dress.

Bucky:

Then somebody got her smoke it's pretty much what it shows on the?

Earl:

do I mean it just shows them going nuts, or?

Earl:

something. Yeah, they tried to make it and that's our media government force. They try to Because it's controlling you.

Earl:

It's not what you do, what you think, what they say. That's their agenda. They have to. Everybody has one. If it ain't their way, it ain't the right way.

Zack:

Yeah.

Earl:

And that's the way of the world and that's society. That's over and over in the Bible. That's what it's talking about. Plenty of times and how the world has ended before Since biblical times and a lot of that stuff's written. There's been other societies and there's been. They try to tell you about that in the Bible if you read it. There was wicked other societies around them that were. You know what they were based on Money, yeah, and they were. You know they had good things, like the Phoenicians and things like that were travelers and they'll mention these people in the Bible and stuff. But they tell you don't take in foreigners, don't let these people come in your land, because what they're going to do is they're going to ruin it. They're going to come in and you're going to think they're just business people.

Earl:

You know, I have to look where it says you know, don't let foreigners in your land, even if they're of goodwill, and make you money, because eventually it will ruin your land.

Earl:

Yeah, well, and probably because that happened before, many times before.

Earl:

Yes, yes.

Earl:

Every country.

Earl:

Just like with other forms of government. But I mean pretty much. I think a lot of other societies tried to go by money, tried to go by business. You know it's money. Try to go by business. You know it's not always been a and we know they've gone by a lot of things you know we've had kings and emperors and you know, the romans and greeks figured out a lot.

Earl:

Well figured out, uh, democracy, a way to have people live together with money. You know what tied them together? You couldn't just trade and barter. You needed this other concept that was universal, it's the idea of money. People, most people didn't just come up with that, you know, that's like why they had no idea that when white man hit this continent, the people have been living here. They didn't know, they had no idea about ownership or why you would have. You know, yeah, no, they'd trade you some beads for this or that. You know there was like it was. That was the thing trading, and there was no rights to land.

Earl:

There was no ownership of this or that yeah uh, yeah, and then it'll easier because there was such a class and those people had been here and what white man is in western civ as it came, uh, it was. There's such a difference then that people didn't didn't see it for a long time. I guess you know yeah well, you know, like most, it's different to being asleep and awake. Yeah, uh, there's always some folks that are awake, screaming, yelling and pointing hey, sky's falling. Yeah, there's always some folks that are awake screaming and yelling and pointing hey, sky's falling right.

Earl:

Oh, there's always that who wants to listen. But see, some people just say don't even worry about a thing, yeah, because it's all going to be all right. Yeah, that's a philosophy Bob Marley is one of his philosophies. Yeah, don't worry man, everything's going to be all right, it's going to be easy, just be easy.

Earl:

I don't know about all that. Right, that's a temporary approach Temporary.

Earl:

That's why. I was talking about music. For us, it's a temporary relief for a lot of people of the stresses of life.

Earl:

Music's magic? Yeah, no, I know it's magic, zach knows it's magic he's been involved in it his whole life, especially live music, live music's a whole different thing, with the crowd and everything else. Where people, it doesn't take that much for somebody to get in line together. That's like what a band is, or just somebody that's never played together, and you kind of pick up with them and all of a sudden you're on the same what.

Bucky:

What are?

Earl:

you on.

Bucky:

You know what I mean. I don't know.

Earl:

I've seen the looks what I mean, I don't know. I've seen, I've seen the looks. You get together and play good music together. That's a that's. It's hard to explain hard to explain there's all. There's always parts of it that we don't know. That's one of those things. It's like I, it just is, and it's been so much that people don't question it. Those things, that's beyond. Yeah, it transcends. It transcends just being that. It does uh entertainment or whatever.

Earl:

those are things they've got out of it, but it's been around a long time. As far as people, they've always been beating on a drum and making instruments and putting that stuff together and it's out there.

Bucky:

Birds, birds, birds sing.

Earl:

It's not unknown out there. It's the magic of sound in our human ear. Yeah, it does something to our In our human ear. Yeah, it does something to our In our human ear and tuning us together.

Earl:

It does some magic. You're right that it's not the same. Brings people together. Yeah, most definitely Brings people together, for sure it's a mood change.

Earl:

You listen to music. It's not you don't have to play it, but you can listen to music. It changes your mood.

Bucky:

That's smack a damn shirt, that's what I mean.

Earl:

Yeah, it's a mood changer. A lot of people use it for that yeah they really? You know they, and it's for good or bad. Maybe they're in a bad mood. They got to get in their zone and get, are you and? There's people that just get fired up on something yeah, you're going to the gym.

Earl:

You're like, all right, let's play some. Yeah. Yeah, I don't be. I hadn't been going to gym.

Zack:

I probably need to, but acdc yeah, that kind of like yeah, yeah, metallica metallica always got me kind of fired up.

Bucky:

I don't know I never was a fan of metallica, not like that not like, not pumped up a little bit.

Earl:

Uh, inner sandman kind of yeah, I don't know not all their songs, but a lot of their shit's pretty dark yeah, it was uh, more probably like motley crew kickstart my heart yeah there's lots of that because I was like you're, just like man.

Bucky:

I hear that song if I'm working out, I'm like blood pumping. Yeah, no, jump, you know back.

Earl:

Yeah, oh yeah oh, there was lots of. I was on the rock kick for a while there was a lot of good bands.

Earl:

That has good bands.

Earl:

Yeah, a whole life's been different styles of music and you know now the music's a little bit different.

Earl:

I say I don't listen to a lot of new music I listen to some new music, but I don't know I start catching on to it about 10, 15 years after. Yeah, me too.

Bucky:

That's when I started liking it.

Earl:

Yeah, you heard this shit. Yeah, it came out 20 years ago.

Bucky:

I can't.

Earl:

Yeah well, I didn't know some stuff that was out in the 90s that I've caught now, a long time later.

Earl:

Yeah, it's crazy how I just go through little.

Earl:

Well, there's some off shit. You ever heard 3-1-1? I have not.

Earl:

What is that?

Earl:

Oh, their own yeah, they're kind of ska reggae but they riff and jazz kind of. I don't like jazz and stuff, but it's real, it has a mood to it. You just listen. It's real and different, man, and it's like reggae in that like if you have an upbeat tempo, it's about some dark shit, and if you got a, a happy tempo, well then it's about. You know, it's not. It's about low or dark. The low tempo is about a love song that's really deep.

Earl:

It's like the opposite of what you would be really yeah, a lot of times and it's real riffy and and just kind of goes off and like with the other different with different instruments. They have two good singers. They were around. I think they still were around from 91 to 2000-something. I think they may still be actually, but the main core they recorded in the 90s and it's just some different shit you have to check that out yeah.

Earl:

Listen to several, though they're different. There's probably 10, 15 songs you've got to listen to before. Like I said, they got two singers. There's a bunch of them in the band. They're not unconventional. Who?

Earl:

is this no-transcript? This is a live little deal they're doing here. Beautiful disaster.

Earl:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably heard them. And there's another singer. They got at least two lead singers. It's an odd mix of what their influences are. Yeah, they're jamming. Yeah, they're drummers. Yeah, that's what a lot of that is that jazzy, riffy stuff. He's one of them that goes off the drummer. I like listening to stuff like that. It's not all about music, you know what I mean. There's certain parts like oh, that lead guitar is crazy. Most people notice that, but, like you said, there's some songs like the drummer's crazy. Yeah.

Earl:

So that's what I like now. When I listen to music, I kind of listen to more instruments than words.

Earl:

I mean words too, but People notice when they're over at Flea. Red Hot Chili Peppers are known for having. Yeah, they were driven by and their music is, and they had their style too. They were funk and it went to their own deal.

Earl:

Yeah, they created their own version of music.

Bucky:

They came out of LA. There were some other.

Earl:

LA bands at that time that were funk, punk rock.

Earl:

We've lived through several, I guess, genres, little spells, yeah.

Earl:

Well, you know, there wasn't really.

Earl:

Grunge rock Saw the invention of rap.

Earl:

There was no such thing as rap.

Earl:

I was really big into rap Beastie Boys like yeah.

Bucky:

That was one of my first rap groups that I liked used to live down, I mean.

Earl:

Beastie Boys was and my brother liked uh oh uh, slick Root, no the uh.

Zack:

I like Slick Root yeah.

Earl:

Run DMC oh yeah, and so yeah and I like Run DMC, but I was like Beastie Boys are better and so we'd always be like yeah no oh man.

Earl:

I love, yeah, aerosmith.

Earl:

Yeah, I love Run DMC too but I don't know, For some reason, when the Beastie Boys come on, I'm like fight rappers. Yes.

Earl:

Well, because they had a different style that caught on.

Earl:

Well, it's more like a rock rap.

Earl:

I remember the old rap was like it was back and forth, it was like did you say different words?

Earl:

I would say two words. You'd say two, You'd say two, and we'd just go around. That was one and you know it was just yeah. So it wasn't like I'll just sit here and rap for five minutes straight. What was the first rap song? What's it called? That's how it was. They gotta say it was uh, oh, no, no, no, no, first rap song. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. What is it I?

Earl:

can't think of the name of the song. We do, but it was like it was the first one like that and that's what they like chopped it up. Uh, and then that's what blew up, yeah it was like grandmaster flash something something like that.

Earl:

I don't know, but yeah, they, it wasn't like just one guy rapping, it was like several guys.

Earl:

Yeah and uh but that was the first. That was early rap.

Earl:

Yeah, it's hip-hop and everything else boys come in and put like a little bit of rock and roll and then run. Dmc did too with the.

Earl:

They sampled other music they were sampling a lot of the old rap sampled Motown and a lot of old stuff like that. The white dudes went back in and got some Led Zeppelin and some.

Earl:

Black.

Earl:

Sabbath stuff and they started putting the white folk beats back in it. They sampled it. You don't notice it.

Earl:

It's subtle, yeah that's really where rap started was sampling other people's music, which I mean, it was really. Ah, you're stealing.

Earl:

That's what a lot of people said from the start yeah, you're borrowing, you're borrowing, but Elvis did a lot of that too.

Bucky:

He was totally different. Well, elvis, yeah, the only person that can rewrite a hymnal.

Earl:

I was about to say, change the words in it. He could sing whatever they put in front of him.

Earl:

He was gonna make whatever cause they said that and he used to go look and watch them play music and that's where he learned all them little moves that he did. He learned them from the black folks.

Bucky:

White people can't move like that, or not supposed to, you know. Then there's Jerry Lee Lewis, and Mickey Gilley and Jimmy Swagger are all first cousins. They all learned piano from the same person, a black lady.

Earl:

So I mean yeah, music is taking.

Bucky:

You never think Jimmy Swagger andagger and jerry lewis would be cousins of jimmy swagger, you know, yeah, they first cousins, that's craziness music has been, and I'm sure we stole it from the tribes of, as we say, this travel.

Earl:

It is that's it is like the indians that were here. What they do, that's whatever. Yeah, drums, drums and usually yeah but they made noises, had they had them little Beating on stuff? Yeah, you're beating on stuff. I mean Percussion, yeah, Percussion. They made their own music and maybe to us it sounded like a bunch of racket, but to them it was like what we're listening to right now.

Zack:

You just or yeah, that's my jam.

Earl:

Boom.

Earl:

Boom, like ooh, that's my jam, let's go. Music's bigger in some cultures. Yes, it's not as important to some people as it is to others, so you're going to have people like I said they're freaked out.

Earl:

What the fuck is this? Well, like the Indians, from what I learned, I wasn't around when they were here, of course, but they did ceremonies where they did music and where they did weddings.

Earl:

Chants and you know where they did weddings, chants, yeah and yeah.

Earl:

Wash away the ghosts and spirits. And you know it was spiritual for them, I think.

Earl:

Yeah.

Earl:

Lots of different things.

Earl:

Well it is. It's social too. You come together and dance. Social, yeah, dance.

Earl:

Dancing was big, yeah, which for a lot of, and you know we still do that.

Earl:

We, but there's too many other things when you had to live, when your life was spent surviving, finding your food.

Earl:

Yeah, those were big occasions, hell yeah.

Earl:

Now, people have way a lot of options, don't they? Yeah, to fill their time.

Earl:

Yeah, I can sit here and do nothing With bullshit and watch my phone for 45 hours. Tiktok, tiktok.

Earl:

That's what they want you to do Pay your taxes. Japanese Five hours, tiktok. That's what they want you to do. That's the pay your taxes government Watch TikTok.

Earl:

So it is a Japanese company, right?

Earl:

Chinese Chinese, oh, chinese they're trying to get it to where they're making them sell it if they're going to stay in the United States.

Earl:

Really, so it's not Chinese owned yeah.

Earl:

Yeah, that's what they're trying to do right now. Wow, you can't get on TikTok if you're under 18.

Bucky:

It's not even the same and you can only be on it some other day. Can't get on it if you're what. No kids cannot be on TikTok.

Earl:

Kids can't be on it. Let's call something else. Kids can't be on it and you're limited to like three or four hours a day.

Bucky:

And love your country is how it always ends. You know shit like that.

Earl:

Yeah, but you can't, than they put in it for how you keep watching it and flicking. It's created a dopamine in 15 seconds, and that's what you. Nothing else works the same. That's all you want to do.

Earl:

I believe that yes.

Earl:

And they've done that on purpose, and the Chinese government even recognizes that to where they've regulated it Like you can only eat, like three hours of this a day and don't let kids in, send it to America and they can watch it all day long. We're going to get all their 15-year-old girls watching TikTok all day. And that's where we're going to influence society, because it does. Yeah, it's crazy, they make fun like you go to Taylor Swift concerts. All the little white girls and daddies.

Earl:

All the daddies that take them. That's where a lot of money goes, because you're going to do daddy's little girl. Everybody wants you, know, I know. And Taylor's a crazy bitch. She's good in talent, she's one of those too.

Earl:

She's like Michael Jackson or something else they don't tell her that she really is, yeah, and she's having a hard time.

Earl:

I think, if you look at it a certain way, yeah, I mean she's rich, but I think, yeah things, I think she's a fuck. I mean yeah, but she's like somebody that ain't never gonna grow up. She's like michael jackson in a way. She's stuck somewhere is a beautiful artist. Yeah, uh can do a lot of things, but I think uh she's got a lot of yes, men around her same kind of thing, but that's what all the big stars have.

Earl:

Elvis, that's why the ones that started early, yeah, ones that were about 20 or whatever? When they started getting famous and shit like that. It's easier to take advantage of the big ones.

Earl:

I think that the greed is so strong that you're taken by people to take a piece of your money to the pie, like Elvis and Michael Jackson, all them guys.

Zack:

They're making so much money, everybody wants a piece of the pie.

Earl:

They didn't want to deal with this. Yeah, you deal with this, you do okay. Yeah, you deal with it.

Earl:

I'll pay you whatever yeah, you tell me, you just give me what I want, money, wise, and you can have rest or whatever. Well, that's where some of those will say some of those people weren't true leaders, they were followers too yeah, they had an amazing somebody and they had to attach to somebody, somebody and somebody attached to them. Usually it's not the right people, no, it's the people that's taking your money, greedy folks yeah folks, yeah Somebody that wanted one other thing.

Earl:

Yeah, they want your money or fame, and to keep you doing it Whatever. Keep you doing it. Unless your agenda's out there real bad, then they're going to change all your shit.

Earl:

That's like why the people don't sign a contract and things like that.

Earl:

like you said, Because then you've got somebody else.

Earl:

I don't say that, yeah, let's just talk about this. It this way, I think it'd sound better. I think that's probably where taylor's at right now. What do you think that's what? Not? Well, taylor swift, you think she's doing what she wants or what somebody else wants?

Earl:

oh, yeah, she's got some influence around her, but, yeah, but it's too much of what she wants. She don't have no other guide. It's a lot about want. Uh, I see her lost as a person, as a human being, uh, huh smart yeah, yeah I know, but I mean as far as but she. When you expect someone to progress and grow as a human being, that's what happens. They don't. She's. She's in that world like michael jackson. You get to where that's all you do and that's what you do.

Earl:

I'm not saying they're untalented or wrong or something else, but their influence is unreal yeah, especially for young girls for some group or whatever it is, or what the other group and time will tell as far as some of that. He was a child star in the jackson five. His family, you know his dad, did all that. You hear all the stories now and then he had to go out on his own and kind of pushed his family off to the side because other people and he changed and did some of that's his way, sure, but he fed into that, a lot of people fed into his way and uh, that's what you know ultimately got him. He had his own doctor. He didn't even have nobody telling him nothing he had his own doctor.

Earl:

He told him yeah, there's a lot of people wish they had their own doctor that could do what he was doing yeah, it's hard to keep one legal.

Earl:

That's crazy. If that even happened, really like that what that dude was. That dude wasn't even an anesthesiologist. Yeah, if you break the law.

Earl:

Not, you won't always go to jail, but if you get caught you will. Yeah, that's how that works.

Zack:

That's how that works you can break the law. Well, that's kind of why they punish people the way they do that.

Earl:

The system kind of figures that it's only catching a certain percent. So it's going to get you good when it does, because most crimes go unchecked yeah all right, well, zach's over there, yeah, I know I don't even know what tomorrow so this is gonna be about the end of uh easy already you're supposed to have more, more, I don't know. So somebody said 24 problems yeah.

Earl:

More struggles no shit yeah well, shit's getting higher and yep so yeah all right. Well, we are going to call it an episode, baby. So we will see you. Be easy, be easy.

Zack:

You always find a way To put me in my place and I get mad and say there's things that don't mean any way. Just like the time I told you I don't care if you stay, Don't care if you stay. So, hey baby, let's not fight tonight. Hey baby, we can make this right. Put down that old suitcase and let me take you back To the place where we first met and to the time you can't forget. Let's do more. Hey baby. I said hey baby. I know that our lives have changed, but we can get back to that place where we were young and loved. Nothing stood in our way. Just like the time your old man said there ain't no down way. Then we ran away. So, hey baby, let's not fight tonight. Hey baby, we can make this right. So put down that old suitcase and let me take you back To the place where we first met and to the times you can't forget. Let's do them all. Hey baby. Short version. I said hey baby.

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