See what we think is really going on in India and China for Harley-Davidson. We also talk about the 15 fastest 1/4 mile times set back factory production bikes. King of the baggers is still happening and there is new about a second Indian Challenger. We also find plenty of off topic stuff to talk about as well.
See what we think is really going on in India and China for Harley-Davidson. We also talk about the 15 fastest 1/4 mile times set back factory production bikes. King of the baggers is still happening and there is new about a second Indian Challenger. We also find plenty of off topic stuff to talk about as well.
All right, we stand to hit the intro
Mike VO :motherfucking intro
Roy Merritt :once again, it's time to open your ears and expand your mind. Or maybe it's double your mind. Either way, I think these boys have some of the same. So sit back, grab a brew, we're gonna have some two, and give you our point of view. Here on Talkin. Braap All right. Welcome back is talking crap. Season two presidential debate edition, Episode 12. The presidential debate is tonight.
Aaron Staudinger :And
Roy Merritt :I gotta I gotta release this by tomorrow night. So this one's gonna be an interesting one. And Jordan smelling out. We are done. 30 Yeah, no. So I got some interesting things that i've you know, I like to read articles and stuff. And some interesting things going on that I thought we could talk about tonight that me and Mike actually talked a little bit about one of them today that he's been reading different articles on. So the kind of the starting topic, here is an article I read on motorcycle cruiser calm. Again, we'll put some links in the fake news page that says the title is Harley Davidson says it will leave India
Mike VO :fake news, fake news.
Roy Merritt :So, um, I read the article and basically what they say
Unknown Speaker :not, it's gonna be huge.
Roy Merritt :And what the article said, they are shutting down, they're gonna shut down the factory there. And they are going to continue to support the dealer network as best they can for the contract in time. All those dealers I'm sure it's a sign we have a lot of great dealer partners. Yeah, a lot of really, really good, really good people. I bet. They're great. Great.
Mike VO :Very good.
Cedric Landree :for India. It's gonna be gonna be for China.
Mike VO :It's gonna be great. Great for India. Great for the US. We cut China out just a window around. So yeah.
Roy Merritt :Basically, you know, with the new rewire strategy, they are focusing on more profitable markets. And so
Mike VO :that's a really smart thing to do
Roy Merritt :this weird India is has been not the sales boom that they thought it was going to be. I think they're still priced out of their market just like they are and pretty much every other market, you know, for, for the average person. At least that using it the way most people do there.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah, we go back to a you know, the interview we had with rotation is exactly what he said. Yeah, like if you see one like a unicorn,
Roy Merritt :yeah, yeah, there, dude, you got some money or he rides you know, yeah, whatever. You know, he's, he's got money. I mean, I've seen
Aaron Staudinger :several pictures online of road test, test riding and some of those. Oh, yeah. I've been on a couple. Yeah. Well, you know,
Mike VO :in Europe. They use Mercedes and BMW as cash. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So everything's relative.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, it will definitely but
Cedric Landree :yeah, cuz Harley's over in Europe.
Roy Merritt :Oh, yeah. Well, that's because we ship them there. So that that was that was the drive behind the Indian market and the way they did things was okay, there's no way we can build these little bikes in America and ship them to India and sell them are reasonable, right? No way with with import taxing and export taxing and everything else that's going to go on, there's no way they could do an entry level bike like they wanted to. Now they can ship big bikes over there and tax the shit out of them because it doesn't matter. It's so fucking Harley, you're they're gonna buy it or not. But with the little bikes, they were trying to get into a more entry level, you know, more affordable market. So I'm sure it dedeaux that the money that they put out to build that, you know, The factory and all of that staff it and all of that. I mean, there's no way they built the factory,
Mike VO :or did they just use take over a factory that was already there? I mean,
Roy Merritt :I'm sure there was something of that, but they still have, you still got to retool it, do everything for your stuff. So, you know, there's a lot of work involved there and a lot of money, a lot of money. You know, so, you know, there's got to be a point where we build something like that there's, you know, you know, I'm sure if you're doing your financials, right, you know, that when Okay, I open on this day, I have to run for seven years before this place pays for itself, you know, and I don't think they've made it that far. I mean, it's been like 10 years, hasn't it? I don't know. When
Mike VO :I'm not sure when they really tried to penetrate the Indian market.
Roy Merritt :Well, when did the street come out?
Mike VO :I don't know. Like, 2014. Who cares?
Unknown Speaker :2015 more than the street.
Mike VO :I'm gonna ask my uncle, you know,
Aaron Staudinger :um, but it wasn't a good factor is vacant, ask the Google fireworks and incense gonna be hella cheap. Pretty soon? Well,
Unknown Speaker :you know,
Roy Merritt :it's, it's interesting, because are they gonna keep doing like this now? Send it to
Mike VO :13 2014, baby
Roy Merritt :2014
Cedric Landree :or 14. Okay.
Aaron Staudinger :So
Roy Merritt :do you think they keep doing the street? I know, they make them here, you know, as well. But that bike was really designed to be sold overseas. You know what I mean? It wasn't designed for the American market. I don't think
Aaron Staudinger :they want the classes to just take them dump them all over the parking lot.
Mike VO :Well, I think they designed the 750 for the American market. They designed the 500 or markets like sale or, you know, India and places that they have cc restrictions. Yeah, that I don't know if they do. Yeah, I don't know if they do everywhere in India, but I know there are places provinces, in places like China and India that they have cc restrictions.
Roy Merritt :Same in Europe, all through Europe. Yeah. So like that. So yeah, that's why they're so popular, the little Vespas and stuff like that, because they fall under smaller tax brackets, and you know, everything's cheaper on them. So,
Aaron Staudinger :California announced that by 2035, no emissions? Yeah. So how does that affect bikes in California? No emission? None. Non 00.
Mike VO :It doesn't affect bikes at all, because of California is still a state in 2035. That law will not exist yet.
Cedric Landree :So
Aaron Staudinger :think about it. Like if you all anything, toe, anything, anything? What are you going to do you no one's gonna be left
Mike VO :by like California by
Aaron Staudinger :2035. Or they're going to call them commercial vehicles. And your registrations go frickin nuts. They're gonna register you by electric surcharge.
Roy Merritt :They have electric semis already there. They're driving fucking sales. Yeah.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah. Just curious whether Harley market California which is huge. Tons of bikes, California, like outlaw by 2035. California is
Mike VO :legislation is so fucked up. And they've mismanaged that state so bad. None of the laws that they have now are going to be viable in 15 years is not gonna matter. They're gonna they're gonna have to revamp that whole structure, or asis gonna continue to implode. They've done such a shitty job managing that state from the ground up. That I mean, we're watching it implode. I know.
Aaron Staudinger :Why do you think I left?
Mike VO :It's either it's either on fire, or it's underwater. or some
Aaron Staudinger :combination of both?
Mike VO :Yeah. Or it's illegal.
Roy Merritt :Like what's trying to tell them? So?
Mike VO :Fuck was climate change? It's not climate change. It's gross mismanagement of public funds. All state is just that's all it is, is one great big clusterfuck of people stealing the common man's money. So can't argue.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, though. arlie is pulling out of India. their interest in China, pulling in China? Oh, yeah, they're going into China going in hard. So I have an article here from motorcycle.com. And it says a Harley Davidson 338 are revealed in design filings. So you know, like anywhere else, you're going to file your patents and blah, blah, blah. So they give you a really good look at this bike and the bike that it's based on and it's got one of those slide things where you can kind of go over and see the differences between the two. But the bike that they released, kind of hinting towards it is very similar. The one in the design drawings look much more like a Harley. The tank and the profile the seat height. The other one is a little more Street Fighter ish, you know, big hump in the tank like the like the sport bikes have kind of take that out. Yeah, Tails way higher to get up by. But the rest of the bike is pretty much the same. So it's gonna be interesting to see I don't understand why we can't do this over here. You know, I know this Chinese companies making them but I bet that Chinese he could make them and ship them here it would freak out. Yeah, but still probably cheaper than Harley could make them
Mike VO :believe this podcast forever.
Roy Merritt :I wouldn't buy one that way. But if
Cedric Landree :it's not a road glad
Roy Merritt :America
Mike VO :Well, you make the fucking motorcycle in China and ship it here, then you go fuck yourself. So this is
Roy Merritt :what we talked about earlier. And in China, they're basically licensing their, you know, their their brand. They're saying this is what its gonna look like this is you know, they're franchising it, if you will, we said earlier,
Mike VO :which is actually what Harley is doing in India,
Roy Merritt :they're just, and that's what you had read because we talked about it earlier.
Mike VO :Yeah. I read it on fake news.org. That's right, right apart. Just had it up.
Roy Merritt :And what you said you would read was that they were shutting down that pizza, factory 2020. They were shutting down that factory. But they were looking into one of the other major motor motorcycle manufacturers into I guess licensing?
Mike VO :Yeah, they're, they're talking to Mahindra a Georgia hero. Yeah. Or an Indian partnership. That's more along the lines of what we did in China. When with the China exclusive model 338 are which. So they're going to close the Indian factory and stop trying to produce motorcycles. Well, and I think I think there's a lot more to it than just the fact that whether the motorcycles are expensive, you know, when we go I think operating in foreign countries can be difficult sometimes, because of the way they do business, the way their governments are set up the way they tear up their things that you don't I mean, so. It might just not be cost productive, to try to put a home plant in somewhere like India. And they I mean, how would you know that? Yeah. until you start going. Because, I mean, it's no secret that the Indian government isn't exactly forthcoming and fair.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, you know, he's definitely there.
Mike VO :For sure. And they and they, they have a lot of back end corruption. And you know, I mean, at least here when they do that they try to hide it. Yeah.
Roy Merritt :So yeah, they've the news.
Mike VO :I think I think it's I think there's a lot that goes into play with you know, whether or not it's going to be economically viable to try to sustain that.
Aaron Staudinger :Nothing that can't be done. Well, like like, like Chevrolet has cars built in Australia sends powerplant spouse brilliance and full cars back. How does that make we
Mike VO :have a different trade where we do Australia that exactly you know what I mean, and Australia is a different kind of country than India. Yeah,
Roy Merritt :it is not a first world country. Really, they make that craziest GTO fuckin truck back thing. Yes,
Mike VO :they do weird shit and they are awesome. I was
Aaron Staudinger :so really bad. It's like they wanted to do it us. El Camino
Roy Merritt :GTO El Camino Yes. And they've been nasty motor. They're fucking badass. Less worrying.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah, well, lol 76 so you can convert it LS three badass
Roy Merritt :rip out of it. I forget what they call it now, but
Aaron Staudinger :the U is what they call it. Yeah. The two Utes the do you call it a you know our T? Yep. Look it up.
Roy Merritt :Those things Commodore,
Cedric Landree :Australian, Commodore, Commodore, Commodore,
Roy Merritt :you teach. So one of the other interesting things going on right now. What was the last time you read a motorcycle magazine? What is it? What's it? Like? When was the last time you picked up?
Aaron Staudinger :I picked up a baggers magazine in the airport about a year ago. Okay, that's been online.
Unknown Speaker :for way too long. What?
Unknown Speaker :What did you say youth? Yeah, do you? What is the youth? Oh, excuse me to use youth youth
Aaron Staudinger :Youth to Youth to Youth outside the sport.
Roy Merritt :So, you know, especially back in the day motorcycle magazines were like badass You know, you you looked at him that's how you saw the cool bike. Most of the magazines are printing or have printed their last issue of some of these magazines and I forget which one they said it was like cycle world or one of those has been running for 100 years, whatever it was, might be motorcycle. So octane, this company octane, just purchased a company called Bonnier. And underneath of that company is motorcyclists like a world dirt rider motorcycle cruiser, cycle, volta, ATV rider and UTV rider and some others that you know, you may not know
Unknown Speaker :and
Roy Merritt :I believe they're all getting shut down. And so I'd like to know what Yeah, hot bike all of those are shut down. So what's happening now is is one company has bought up most of these names. And I think you're gonna see something you more unified so if you go to like psycho world or motorcyclist, I think it's going to link to the same thing.
Cedric Landree :You talk about motorcycle magazines, right?
Aaron Staudinger :Well, yeah,
Cedric Landree :I mean, in journalism
Roy Merritt :in journalism nowadays is done on YouTube. Right? You know, it's the world's not the same as it was when most you know, magazines were really the only way you could get in touch with these people you know? Um, so it'll be interesting to see what they do with those names or if they just kind of go away they had already purchased says in here somewhere they already had a few magazines and stuff that they had tried to run over the last like 10 years it just they could not make profitable so they've shut pretty much everything down. Which is kind of sad. Because you're not you're not gonna be able to go to the store and pick up a magazine anymore.
Aaron Staudinger :Well, most people sit on the crapper with their phones now anyway. Yeah. So you discussing animal All right.
Roy Merritt :One interesting article here from hot bike web or I guess it was hot bike magazine. And this is the top 15 fastest quarter mile time our action buttons
Aaron Staudinger :now we're talking Okay, piqued my interest. Now
Roy Merritt :this would be me scroll through here. This is not like the fastest production bikes this year. Quarter miles is fastest. I'm gonna say all time I mean, I don't go back that far because bikes burn as fast as they are, you know, they get boost.
Aaron Staudinger :There right? Um,
Roy Merritt :there are 15 different individual models and years that have logged quarter mile time. Okay, you have Bossa.
Aaron Staudinger :Do they have an Eight Mile? Or is it a quarter mile
Roy Merritt :damp? So I want to see I kind of wish I would have had a piece of paper out. You got to pick us 15 bikes here. Hi, Busan. I boost is an easy 102 high bushing Okay, kawasaki.
Mike VO :Kawasaki What? This yes 14 Yep, take
Roy Merritt :14
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. tend to vtcs
Roy Merritt :tins are pretty fat
Aaron Staudinger :Ducati. 999
Roy Merritt :Ducati. Okay.
Aaron Staudinger :I'll tell you the top 15 there's gonna be some 600 bikes in there. Especially three or it's gonna swing are out right off the floor.
Roy Merritt :Okay, right also floor factory bikes. Well, some of them are factory race bikes, but they're
Aaron Staudinger :not Yamaha leader bike has to be there any of the leader bikes like undeleter bike Yamaha leader bike, the Blackbird.
Roy Merritt :Actually, I don't think the Blackbird
Mike VO :it's not no rc 51
Roy Merritt :Let's see. We'll start with 15 1000 members 15 is the 2014 BMW s 1000. sleeper. Yep. logged a quarter mile time of 9.94 seconds at 141.7 our miles or
Cedric Landree :that's right so that's really great. Yes.
Mike VO :Fastest ship Where did that wreck didn't have the speed gunner 15
Aaron Staudinger :at a nine Yes. Okay. You have to wear leathers to ride that
Roy Merritt :bike. Beat number 14 not a big surprise here. The 2011 BMW s 1000 are our which logged in 9.9 349 miles and
Cedric Landree :what was the other one? It was
Unknown Speaker :one What do you take
Cedric Landree :out? No, I'm just
Roy Merritt :so they're all here. I'm gonna tell you most of them are within seconds when you get under better
Cedric Landree :than 15
Roy Merritt :I don't know how much you know about drag racing. But once you get under that 10 second mark, you're talking halls and outs are big deals. Yeah, you know, it's a lot yeah. I like to go fast. So 13 the 2011 Ducati 11 nine nine and a gallie. s. Okay. This bug quarter mild in 9.91 seconds at 145.95 are so not as much top speed but Ducati they're always known for right or bottom in
Aaron Staudinger :my mind. Yeah.
Roy Merritt :Well, I bet ones that we saw. I bet this did pretty good in the eighth mile. If it topped out around 145 they probably reached there pretty quick. You have to do 991 so number 12. The 2004 r1 s
Aaron Staudinger :Yep. That 1001 that's not even the cross plane. That's the straight Oh, sorry. 2000 4004 was first year Oh, the straight board um, even a little blah.
Roy Merritt :ramnarine take brake calipers. 9.90 seconds. 144.98 miles an hour. Now I can tell you I've written some worked out our ones. And God Damn, those things sound good. And they are fucking fast. There is
Aaron Staudinger :a lot of bike. A lot of a
Roy Merritt :number 11 is the 2002 z x 12 r. Okay. That ran on 9.87 at 100. Wow. 6.29 miles an hour.
Aaron Staudinger :Still a night? Yeah.
Roy Merritt :Number 10. The 2014 Ducati 11 nine nine panna Gali and 9.8. For number nine, the 2015 YZF r1.
Aaron Staudinger :That's so the When did they go cross plane? That's
Roy Merritt :traction control and everything cross plane was I think oh four. I think that was when they thought that was the the bike just
Cedric Landree :ycf that's the sport touring one, isn't it?
Aaron Staudinger :No, no, no. r1
Roy Merritt :r1. So with a time of 9.83 seconds at 149 miles an hour. So that's
Aaron Staudinger :point nine one. These are all tight. They're all within a couple tenths. Oh, yeah.
Roy Merritt :Number eight is the 2006 zx xR MX for some reason. Let's see. The 2010 holds another spot a little bit further up but the 2006 grip the quarter mile and 9.76 seconds 49 miles an hour 206 z waxen new bikes passes and like would you do that? Nothing? Nothing either.
Cedric Landree :Way, let me react.
Roy Merritt :Yeah. So number seven is the 2013 BMW HP four. It is related to the S 1000 rr. It's a It's a race bike. It did 976 at 152 miles an hour. Number six is the 2008 Ducati 1098 R. This is the Ducati picture with you. For me I think of a Ducati it's like the 1098 is the trellis frame and you know all that stuff and did a 90 cider style hike right you know this was a look at our our style. It's lower handlebars whole body Yeah. Whole body Well, not on the side. This is Ducati you want to see the Freeman ship and you don't want
Aaron Staudinger :you don't get anything in the way of one of the clutch
Roy Merritt :crank. Yeah, you want it you want everybody to hear it. Number five oh, so that didn't 975 and 148. Again, those difficulties don't get as high up but they get there quick. Yeah. To number five is the 2010 zx xR that was when they went I think trash control and all that stuff. That was when the ZX 10 really stepped it up. That was after the S 1,009.72 at 150 mile an hour even number for the 2008 high boosa Yep. 970 at 148.48 miles now. Number three is the Ninja h2 which I think was the supercharged Yeah, a supercharged version just this year right? No.
Cedric Landree :Well that's that's a straight legal one.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, these are all street legal I believe. Although the picture here has recently caught it. But let's see some rain in may have occurred. The survey might not say what it Oh 9.6 to 150 miles. So the top two broke, I think the nine five ring and number two is the 2008 Ducati Desmosedici gr o. r r. I fucked up the RR on Desmos. It ran a night point four, nine and 152.8 miles an hour. Wow, that's a fast bike. How much does that bike cost? So?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, probably 25 more than I
Unknown Speaker :can afford. 30,000 more that at least Yeah.
Roy Merritt :40,000 Well, I think the Desmos of these GS have to do with weight stuff. So it's carbon fiber fenders, probably carbon fiber, everything. It's pretty, pretty good. And the number one, what do you think?
Cedric Landree :What's it 2002? High? boosa
Roy Merritt :Yeah, we already got Well, my 883 bone stock off 2012 Kawasaki Zx 14. Yep. Have you ridden one of those? I we had been traded it into my last dealership that night Chris bottles on the side of it. I was like, Oh my god, take this for the weekend. They're like, come on, man. Let me take this thing out. It ran a 947 at 152.3.
Aaron Staudinger :Now to put this in perspective. Just so we know. We're talking about this quarter mile cars. Back in the late 80s weren't breaking five seconds. popular car a quarter mile wasn't breaking by
Mike VO :him at four seconds is like six
Aaron Staudinger :occasions. Say it. That's that's
Mike VO :that's move. What's going pretty fast. Well in the car world
Roy Merritt :to break 10 seconds. You're deep in a pretty expensive car. Yeah, you know, if you're in a Mustang that that motors were, there's probably gearing in the rear end you probably got slicks. When 10
Aaron Staudinger :nine, nine in a car and you brought up almost not having a cage.
Roy Merritt :I was gonna say you're running 10s you're under in some places. I think where I was it was 12 vm cage fuel, cut off, all that kind of stuff. So now you're getting into a whole different ballgame. That's why a lot of those guys were like demons issue won't take him out to the track because
Aaron Staudinger :they'll change the rule. An HRA has now made it where that Elite Model car forgot what I haven't been on the projector for a long time. But I want to get back into it. That's the one I built my bike the way I build it. I think now late model cars you don't have to have you see like it was 1135 or something like that. Yeah, they have a cage. If you went under 10 and change you'd have a parachute or something like that. Yeah, the rules have changed. I got to read into it more but they realize these cars are a hell of a lot safer than he used to be back in the day. So yeah, they're not making you stick to those same rules. So now a lot more cars are starting to show up.
Roy Merritt :So you know, you go through you know watching stuff on TV and you go through your I don't know that different, like different types of stuff. And at one point we were watching probably paints or one of those. And my wife's like God, I'd like to do drag race and I was like, okay, we could buy an old beat up Mustang. T No, I was like, got it. You know, run it with the shittiest motor in it and just keep running it on my neighbor do stuff. My neighbor on my street he probably makes about five or six test hits on my road a week.
Aaron Staudinger :Dahlia not even kidding. I'll show you the road when you come to my house. It is just labeled all of
Roy Merritt :my neighbors were looking at me when I was doing a test his alma minibike.
Unknown Speaker :So
Roy Merritt :yeah, it's a one it says
Cedric Landree :I don't make that mentioned john,
Roy Merritt :I want to tell you so for the listeners, I bought a minibike and it is a Coleman ct 200 u x. The frame is stuff so it's got a front suspension and the guy bought it from put like eight inch mini apes in supposedly, the motor has rods and pistons and blah, blah, blah arms and the torque converter. I found that out because it's making noise. So it looks like the chain has been rubbing on the the primary setup. So I got to do you know, a little digging and see that and then as I was looking at it, because the chain makes a little noise. The chain comes around, there's like a mountain in the chain just going around with her where it's not straight. You know, it's not screening out when you pull on him. So there's like this little hump runs around the chain and I'm like it's broken. All right. I know the shame. You know, I was like, I need a chain. I go look at it online. It's like 15 bucks for 10 feet.
Cedric Landree :I need one of those moonshine I was gonna say
Mike VO :what is it? Like, for 15? It's a 420 chance for 20
Roy Merritt :Yeah, well, it's 4041 or 420 chain, you know, but they have a couple different classifications there but it's a pretty small thing. Yeah, I was looking at chain break tools and stuff too. Because what we need and what you need for that are different, you know
Mike VO :that you need like it's a parasite cutters.
Roy Merritt :Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah,
Roy Merritt :yeah. I was looking at him. There's some pretty cool stuff that does transfer over. That's great. My drawl right now is like do I buy some little do both? Or do I buy something just keep with me, but
Mike VO :do they make tools that will go from what we're doing to that? Yeah. Yeah, that'd be an expensive fucking tool
Aaron Staudinger :is that can be a little Roy's by kind of man.
Mike VO :That's a lot of Oh yeah, that's right. You buy toys first by American tools. That's right
Unknown Speaker :China.
Roy Merritt :Like she can't reach the pegs yet. Well it's gonna be its first back bike. First thing he did was I found him I'm like, hey, it's hot. Todd he's like I can ride this and I'm like, dude, you're like three inches from like you're not you're not upset I told him though. I said when you when you can touch the pegs you can ride it. He's like, Okay.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah, himself upside down. start stretching yourself at night. I can't wait.
Roy Merritt :It's funny because you know, it's a little lawnmower engine. So you just kind of go, but it's got a lot of stuff done to it. So it kind of revs up. And then when it revs up, hits and hits really hard. Well, it's Yeah, it's kind of like a little CVT belt thing. Oh, and when you rev it up and hit it, the front wheel up every time dude. You're paying us to kind of push the into it not to pick the front wheel up, but if you just did hell, it'll just be like, but it's good, man. Thanks for Pink's ROI. But on your 100 Yeah, I don't know. You probably. What's that thing top out at? How fast can you go?
Cedric Landree :At? Really? Yeah,
Mike VO :maybe? Maybe 25
Roy Merritt :Have you ever have you ever seen I know. But if you didn't get your phone out,
Mike VO :it probably goes like 2025 for speed. I mean, I bet it does. Maybe 3035
Cedric Landree :I think maybe suppose 40 for short. So that thing gets back. I don't
Mike VO :you know, like when you take like a yz 450 f there's only five miles an hour 60 miles an hour? Yeah, wind wind winding the fuck out
Roy Merritt :that little minibike at full speed is just as fast as you want to go barely knew that thing. Yeah. And it's like oh yeah, like you gotta hit the brake you got to know when you want to stop and like slow down and then hit the brake because it's only got one rear drum brake does it Yeah, very well and it's sweet to the nice new
Aaron Staudinger :fucking death machine
Mike VO :but dirt is like when you're on dirt it's like when you're on the water feels like you go faster that you
Cedric Landree :know we need to go to a Columbia Community College because I guess Nick goes over there all the time and they're like running cops chasing him around he's like awesome lucky America well so we need to do we need to go and like get little caesars you know go through Jasper. Yeah.
Mike VO :So as long as they have they have little caesars What?
Aaron Staudinger :I burned out in the school. And you got suspended
Roy Merritt :I got I got a month the Saturday that I did guy wanted he's machine book you got a big like it was better. I bailed
Aaron Staudinger :I did a drop in the center. Like right in front of the we had like a like a opening door that went to like an auditorium with like a like a ledge right? would stand in front of Windows a big driveway go through now just like that wrapper and laid to bat. Right down and I got busted. He didn't get me on the day they got on Monday. hate us because
Roy Merritt :I did one you didn't think we had a long drive.
Aaron Staudinger :I didn't know. This was like 1992 there was nobody there's no cameras. Yeah, I wasn't
Cedric Landree :even born yet.
Aaron Staudinger :But awesome. But they were like yeah
Mike VO :Who was that? What was Eric?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, that's exactly what I just asked you to
Roy Merritt :go to that school. So it was like wet in the morning and we had this like I live over there and it was there was a speed bumps along the way and was like wet it wasn't raining but it was like wet from rain. And I just like put it second dump the clutch and wrote it the whole way in you know hitting the brakes a little bit just doing like a burn out the whole way and over the speed bumps and everything. And when I got it by the time I got to the parking spot everybody fucking there knew what was going on. And so I pulled out the parking lot the assistant principals now they're like, give me your keys. I was like, Nah, that's just
Unknown Speaker :yeah, let me see a bad yeah, so we
Roy Merritt :had one. I was like, nah, nah, you can get my keys.
Mike VO :He wants it. Well, we
Aaron Staudinger :got it right at that same school. My buddy Robin, who's now deceased. We dropped our aspirins and some West what concrete Dude, it's
Cedric Landree :a good thing you didn't give him her keys cuz it's just like my Yo, yo, I never got that shit back.
Roy Merritt :Oh, I got it back. And there we go. I got in trouble. But you know, it was what it was. You know, I was a dumb ass mine mine mine. Doing it on the way out probably would have been a much better idea then on the way in, you know what do you have anywhere to go? Yeah, yeah, but I was fucking 16 but that's
Cedric Landree :that's thinking before you act though
Roy Merritt :that's what everybody does
Mike VO :sure when they got mad at me for like me doing stupid shit in my cornet I just stopped going
Unknown Speaker :that's fine that's the only
Unknown Speaker :reason we ever were later on anymore
Mike VO :I don't need this shit anyway
Cedric Landree :Are you talking about me go in euro
Mike VO :cornet for 40 Oh when I was in here
Unknown Speaker :she was fun here,
Cedric Landree :bro. I don't know why do you like 90% Irish
Roy Merritt :queens a percent of UK to do is to hmm its dealers
Mike VO :classic dealer. Cosmo, right? Oh damn it.
Cedric Landree :This is a myrica market we spiked markets right
Mike VO :they'll say about damn the baggers. I can't wait. So is that still going on? Yes. When does it happen? Uber
Aaron Staudinger :and more bikes have been revealed, you know? mgkg like, has a picture.
Mike VO :I fucking hope he crashes.
Roy Merritt :No, I don't take a drink yet. I don't want you to throw up. Hey, I hope he crashes I'm gonna show you. I'm going to show you this challenger. And these pipes. Just don't throw up.
Aaron Staudinger :Hang on. Hang on. I gotta see this. This is
Roy Merritt :Roland Sands. Now if you look, it's not connected up. So I don't know how serious they are about that. It was just fire.
Mike VO :Well, no, I think I think they're just laying the exhaust up there. I know.
Roy Merritt :That's what I said. I don't know how serious they are about that. But first time I saw that I was like, What the fuck is going on here?
Mike VO :No, I think that it's all gonna go on if that's where that that's the header. Yeah, I don't know. It's just
Roy Merritt :a pipe. I know. They're just laying the pipe. That's all. It does look horrible like that. So here's the link I have on motorcycle cruiser.com even doing wheel wheel in front of the bag, which you would basically hit you're like you'd be riding on this bike. No, they're not connected. They're just sitting there. I think there's a cross on a screwing around
Cedric Landree :you'd have found this saw this badass motorcycle on like Instagram, and it was like a tricky
Unknown Speaker :train
Cedric Landree :Mike, it was all made up.
Mike VO :You know, he steals everything from somebody else. So you'll see so here so those are those look like lindahl seen it look like lindo wheels, don't they? They
Roy Merritt :lifted up the rider.
Mike VO :Right? Because Mjk he doesn't fucking make anything out of his own design. He always steal somebody else's design.
Roy Merritt :didn't grab it. They lift him up. I see. I got him sitting up a little higher. He's on top of it. We're like a sport bike. God that looks like shit.
Aaron Staudinger :So that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, I was hoping we would get the most badass advanced baggers stuff we've ever seen. Instead, they need to get rid of
Unknown Speaker :first off the
Aaron Staudinger :bike in a bagger
Roy Merritt :victory rear fender needs to go look at that thing, dude. It's horrible. Look at that. And I say victory.
Mike VO :Well that and that is it. Let's see him. Look at the fucking seat. What did he put a road? So besides
Roy Merritt :just threw some extra padding in there. They kind of showed him doing
Mike VO :that even. They even they didn't even.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, but it's at the very spot. It's cool to be okay.
Mike VO :Yeah, go to Lynda. Go Go to Linda wheels. I'll bet you it'll look identical to m j Ks. Oh, brilliant creation.
Roy Merritt :How do we get invited to this shit?
Aaron Staudinger :I asked that. Hey, I was at the drag show. And I told him, You know what we do who we are. Yeah. And I was like, Hey, is it too late? Until you get something? The guy that that's hosting this connector can the bankers right? Right. I talked to the guy in Louisville, and we were up there. And he said, hey, it's set. It's done. Maybe next year. Okay. So I'll give my info. And we'll see
Roy Merritt :they have to know what we're doing. Exactly. I mean, everybody knows
Aaron Staudinger :we happen to have the king of the phone call up there.
Roy Merritt :Make you know if a call and said we want you guys to enter the bagger Jamie would be all over that.
Mike VO :Yes. Not Not if we had to pay for
Roy Merritt :him. He's already got a bike. I mean, you know what I mean? I'll set up for that though. Yeah, but I guess this would all depend on it off the clothes. Yeah, but what would that do for the shop if we weren't getting in the bag?
Aaron Staudinger :Oh, good. unreal, we'd have to get like Miguel Duhamel are about to say we have to get like a
Roy Merritt :real writer like ain't gonna be me I can tell you that but like somebody that does shit, put them on one of our
Aaron Staudinger :actually what we need is a macginnis or something like that one of those dudes that rides aisle a man that has 0.0 fear and will just pitch a bike and is used to something handling evil is probably going to handle pretty evil. I wonder about that boom guy that runs with Boswell's a dude
Roy Merritt :fast
Aaron Staudinger :or we can just pass he runs on a flat tracks.
Roy Merritt :Like he was I would
Cedric Landree :tie with total that motorcycle.
Mike VO :Yeah, I would crash I
Aaron Staudinger :would. I would. I would cross the start finish line lap.
Cedric Landree :He would get done awesome in shotgun and beer.
Roy Merritt :You know
Mike VO :if he showed up? Yeah,
Cedric Landree :yeah. If he wasn't laying on
Mike VO :the couch, there's a good possibility that he would just forget.
Roy Merritt :So laying on the couch. Another interesting one.
Mike VO :The lindahl
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah, it's like a take off for sure. But it looks like to be of his own design. It
Mike VO :the rst does it did the Live Wire
Roy Merritt :just set a record for electric motorcycle Saw that? Run the quarter mile in 11.54 at a top speed of 110. And they'll now they take out 110 it shut off.
Aaron Staudinger :It was more Oh, there is a limiter. Yeah,
Roy Merritt :so if you could get rid of that. I bet you get that 10 so I would
Aaron Staudinger :like to see the incrementals on that. To find out where it hit 336 60 I betcha it moved to halftrack hell quick. And then it kind of sat around seven flat. That's
Mike VO :rst I knew it was one of those guys. We'll
Unknown Speaker :hang on. Mjk
Aaron Staudinger :Hang on. Hang on. All right. Here's the we'll put it up. Oh, god damn.
Roy Merritt :I'll leave it me.
Cedric Landree :Yeah, that looks like your basic white girl latte. Yes, me.
Roy Merritt :Was that pumpkin spice?
Mike VO :Didn't have a single fork. Yep.
Aaron Staudinger :right here in the center and the big book. You put it after branch?
Cedric Landree :No, no, it's got to extra righteous heart so
Aaron Staudinger :I can't see how you look at and not put a carbon fiber wheel on it. Take it easy, buddy.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, pay attention. I'm kidding. I just turn it off now. Probably. You're never gonna get it back. I like
Aaron Staudinger :those better.
Unknown Speaker :That's cool looking.
Mike VO :good looking. We'll start really good like away I know what's crazy. Is this a fucking Harley?
Aaron Staudinger :Davidson
Mike VO :Harley goddamn Davidson man making them product
Roy Merritt :in the last couple years has been making some good looking wheels. I like the wheel that comes on like the specials or whatever it is now or the wish one.
Aaron Staudinger :Did you like there? Yep.
Cedric Landree :CBO was that the
Roy Merritt :one they they
Cedric Landree :like just came out with a new room. There's some like
Mike VO :they, they they have a spoke on each side and crosses.
Roy Merritt :Alright, so I've read this silly article surprised these celebrity women ride. Okay. And I wasn't surprised that most of these and then I didn't know who the rest were.
Aaron Staudinger :Here's the apparently I'm old now. I'm
Roy Merritt :the first one on the list is Miley Cyrus Who? I know. Like Yeah, I would I would have thought she wrote
Cedric Landree :she rides brush probably just did that one Music video The fucking bullshit in Hawaii. Says here on her 21st birthday or dad bought her a can am Spyder
Mike VO :Oh yeah, that doesn't spiders. Not a motorcycle. Yeah.
Cedric Landree :You know what a count as a horse. Anybody
Roy Merritt :know who Olivia Munn is done? No. Sunday are better. I do not know she rose around. Pink. You're like her fucking husband's like motocross. Yeah, he
Aaron Staudinger :has a motorcycle shop.
Mike VO :does all kinds of stuff. Now they got to COVID
Roy Merritt :so pay. I'm pretty sure. Michelle Rodriguez. Like the best. I can see her ride. What pink Tina Turner? Turner. Yeah. Who cares? at Sac off
Mike VO :this chick cares.
Roy Merritt :CSI, Battlestar Galactica.
Unknown Speaker :Let's see. And she was in
Roy Merritt :another show too with a blonde chick.
Mike VO :Oh, yeah. She's the guy. Yeah. The cop show.
Roy Merritt :Where? Yeah, where she shows off. Yeah, he's a sheriff. Buck with that.
Mike VO :Yeah, it was such a good show. I liked it. Yeah. longmire
Roy Merritt :Yeah, I knew you had that one.
Cedric Landree :She's a brunette, right? No, she's a blonde one.
Roy Merritt :A Tricia Helfer. Who cares? Don't know who she is
Mike VO :or what you're talking about. Hey now
Roy Merritt :I just deleted Jolie Haley, Marissa Miller.
Cedric Landree :Great. No, no. I know about that.
Roy Merritt :So I said like what the ones the ones I wasn't really surprised.
Cedric Landree :They were Hamill Anderson ride the motorcycle.
Roy Merritt :Pamela Anderson rides everything. Well played. Well played. Are you gonna pitch it down the middle?
Unknown Speaker :I can give on that.
Roy Merritt :But yeah, so there's gonna be more interesting stuff I'm sure coming out soon from Harley seems like about every two weeks another big announcement about moving forward. So I'm still curious to hear what's going on with the sport adventure touring bike
Unknown Speaker :it is the Pan American so it out Okay, so here you go now
Roy Merritt :21 years show me a sly fox picture of a basically a traditional bagger see tight on a Harley now they took the Indian and they jacked it way up way. Okay, and got him wait
Aaron Staudinger :we're only on 14 we're shocked to overlook on it's a wroking or so. No, it's not even to over in the front. Look at it.
Roy Merritt :You can ride a Harley Davidson better than anybody else on the planet. A group of people Scott guys police officers. And what do they do with their seats? They jack the way the fuck up. Our cops here put like six inches. Yeah, but
Unknown Speaker :that's maneuver. Yeah.
Cedric Landree :spacers
Roy Merritt :do with getting your weight up on top of the bike on the right spot. Yeah, so it's the reason sport bikes sit high. It's the reason you know it's that's like triangle they thought
Cedric Landree :I would tie Do you guys like hanging on his front fender? He's literally standing on the sea with his whole fucking way over his Fender every corner and I'm just like, why are you doing that? But then one day, um, we're like rip and you know and like Nick's there but Shane, we're Shane. You know we're fucking hauling ass you know, and fucking I'm like grinding the dog shot of my peg in Thai comes flying around me on his bag or fucking like, pretty much sitting on a straw vendor. And like, cut me off in the fucking like middle of an apex corner and I'm just like, this guy's gonna fucking kill himself You know? And like he made the fucking corner and I was like, holy shit Titan button right? Well, yeah, and you know, blew my mind. A bagger
Roy Merritt :is not designed your seat positioning and the weight triangle that they talked about, which is you know, the the front axle, rear axle and you and where your weight sits in between those axles and how the bike rides right here is not ideal for handling. It is ideal for the person sitting on the bike. It is the most relaxed position. most comfortable. Yeah, so getting your weight in a different spot on that bike. May be the right thing to do for racing. That's what
Aaron Staudinger :gets by this bike does not look like it has, like brake taken out of it. It looks very very King in the baggers. Yeah, but it says the picture of their of their bike does inverted. It looks like it has alley art lowers on it.
Roy Merritt :The ones that look like inverted. Yeah,
Aaron Staudinger :it's standard. So it's probably got either aliens or legends in it with the alley or lowers radio. rake Mount beringer seaspray some interesting stuff. nalley are lower right? Yeah, it looks like stock breaks. Yeah, sock breaks. Oh, is it? And I'm very curious to see how these guys gonna write these things. But it's hanging off knee down. Like you write a or you're going to see more up? Well that's
Roy Merritt :so that's a question write them to get a bike around a track. Traditionally you need to you know, get your weight down on it to hold it down. But if you're lower in that seat, you're not gonna be able to pull that way down.
Unknown Speaker :You're gonna have your head drag you're gonna be Yeah, your center of gravity
Roy Merritt :is gonna be too low. So you know what RSD is doing with their seat? We'll see maybe maybe they're on planes
Cedric Landree :so they're actually gonna ride on they're not just gonna
Mike VO :have to race Oh, race at Laguna Seca.
Roy Merritt :Yeah. Oh, God and they're running a real Yeah, it was
Aaron Staudinger :that test photo
Cedric Landree :on that show him that new challenger.
Roy Merritt :But what I don't get there is those handlebars
Unknown Speaker :they look like like apes.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, damn dirty way think you would want to
Mike VO :mainly because
Roy Merritt :what all it's going to take is like one hard pole or something. You could move them take them
Cedric Landree :to bars or for hipsters, okay. Until you. Well, the reason
Roy Merritt :is like him is because they work a race. You've got those little clamps if you don't do that or something.
Mike VO :I don't think they're crossmodal
Roy Merritt :I don't know we built some baggers that would. I mean, it looks like you compete with that pretty easily. Yeah. They don't know that. Power.
Aaron Staudinger :And five foot
Mike VO :bucket looks cool.
Aaron Staudinger :The celebration sticker, right there mascara, minus five minus five.
Roy Merritt :You know, they're running through a pipe. There's
Aaron Staudinger :an AR with a different lower body on it. Look at the upper body. But it's an AR header with Yeah. Yeah, you
Roy Merritt :know, to remember usually around the right leg.
Aaron Staudinger :And stock wheels, man stock wheels, stock brakes. Someone I don't know, man. Probably a bunch of carbon fiber stuff on it.
Roy Merritt :Has anybody ever pushed a bagger so hard that this didn't work?
Mike VO :spaded somebody has
Aaron Staudinger :I had a baby at
Cedric Landree :Yeah, see beer. Yeah, that video. He just yeah, his show was on fire. Holy shit. Oh, yeah.
Aaron Staudinger :Straight up. He's dragging the front brake slide as I was between trucks and cars. were on fire.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, I'm sure he saw fade. I mean, I paid him.
Aaron Staudinger :Not to a point where I've ever been like, Oh, shit, I can't stop. Yeah.
Roy Merritt :I mean, for the most part, the way most of these people ride?
Mike VO :Well, most of them fade the back brakes out because they don't, you know, realize that your front brakes is where all your stopping power is. Well, you
Roy Merritt :don't want to be on your front brake. Turn.
Mike VO :Yeah, you do before.
Roy Merritt :Unless you're Yeah.
Cedric Landree :Yeah.
Mike VO :I mean, you want to turn you want to hit your brakes. You want hit your brakes real hard, late into the turn. And then that way you you load it down and then when you come out of the turn, you come back out that way all your weights on the front end too. So your tires backtracking. But most of the people that write these like a we hear capital temenos do the toe dragon. I lost my brakes really well. Your brakes. Well, what the fuck using the rubrics for Yeah,
Cedric Landree :I only use my rear brake when I'm like, going through a parking lot. I used to shut up my River. I use it all the fucking times. I always keep my toe on it.
Mike VO :Well As always, I
Roy Merritt :i a lot of times when I'm getting into turns if you're coming in hot you can scrub a little speed.
Cedric Landree :Yeah, with the rear Yeah, you know, I used
Roy Merritt :to shut on my back right I get hot you back in and then you get it where like backs and a little bit. Oh, not really. But I mean I get into where I know if I'm coming into hot and I can't make a turn. I can just grab the rear brake. It'll dip locked in.
Mike VO :We have big breaks away. Ronnie, just grab all of them and just be like, Oh, sure we get
Unknown Speaker :that much beat Andre break
Mike VO :today about it. Yeah, I've been reading the fuck out of brake.
Cedric Landree :pads. Mike. Ah, what pads Maxi maxi pads.
Roy Merritt :For us, and you can get you probably not that kurodo Oh, I've had
Mike VO :Yeah. badass pads.
Cedric Landree :Right. Oh, Baroda ferodo Yeah, golfers? know, what are they made out of?
Mike VO :What? Well, you get compounds? Well, Linda, Linda. Linda is pretty good. They make good rotors. But yeah,
Aaron Staudinger :we we let's touch on that really quick. Do not buy carbon rotors unless you plan to get them hot.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, okay. This works. Ceramic suit.
Mike VO :Yeah, when you buy those because they're designed because ceramic pads are the same? Because they dissipate heat. So well. Yeah. They're not
Roy Merritt :great at a temperature that you'll probably never reach on the street. Exactly. I've had customers come in, like chrome wheels and stuff that want to put ceramic brakes on their bike because it doesn't create dust. And I will not do it. And they're like, why not? I'm like, Look, if it's raining out, you're gonna have no break. Period. It happened to my wife in a car with ABS because they didn't want it you know, it was cold and wet. And she hit the brakes and ABS couldn't stop it. You know what I mean? Because it was so bad. But um, you know, ceramic brakes. We said carbon fiber, they have to be hot. So they go out there on the track and they ride the brake a little bit, eat up their tires, heat up their brakes, all that stuff. That's for racing. Yet this nice not having the dust but that should be dangerous, even in the car,
Cedric Landree :whatever and wear overalls without a T shirt.
Roy Merritt :That works but you have to have brown cross and your name is seabear and you can write anything. It doesn't matter what that cat, man. That guy right. He's crazy. I don't understand. I don't understand how you could do that. Like rolling burnouts like that like so was it fuel motor the motor?
Aaron Staudinger :No and it blew it up HPI motor
Mike VO :the site yeah the ones the new ruling or fuel moto one of them just fueling fueling built the first one
Aaron Staudinger :and then I think he just didn't like
Mike VO :i think i think he probably goes motor every once awhile and then whoever does it for freezes buddy
Roy Merritt :yeah well yeah but like I thought it was fuel moto or fueling fueling maybe was fueling was he does a lot of stuff with fueling okay so maybe we should always mix those two up for him
Unknown Speaker :don't have to buy no don't do that
Roy Merritt :no I know the fueling guys are cool I like those guys those guys are cool the fuel motor guys are cool too yeah I've never met to fuel motor guys
Cedric Landree :I call them sometimes they
Roy Merritt :they you know they built that motor knowing that he's gonna go out and just destroy it yeah and i mean he's already gone out but as videos have tried to destroy that thing so I kind of curious as to maybe what they did exactly in there knowing what he was going to do to it because I heard is still at 96
Cedric Landree :they probably JB welded the fuckin oil piston cooler and you know stuff like that hickeys raise a fuckin
Roy Merritt :yet yeah i mean you know I guess keeping it like 96 right keeps big cylinder walls they probably cam it pretty good maybe you know hog out the cam chest a little bit run a heavy cam in it but probably keep the compression fairly low
Mike VO :oh yeah cuz they don't want too much heat
Roy Merritt :yeah you know cuz you bouncing that thing off the rev limiter all the time with a fucking 11 and a half to one year
Cedric Landree :lesson thing when he does wheelies he's pretty low rpm he's like straight up and down yeah bowties doing rolling burnout
Roy Merritt :is oh yeah yeah and that's kind of what got him his thing this year
Cedric Landree :yeah is the burnout yeah the built wrong in traffic and
Roy Merritt :yeah, he is his burnouts been on point there's another guy sit down Steve a couple others that are around that group that uh they're pretty crazy, man. They they make tires look, you know, fairly calm when it's all said and done by
Cedric Landree :Yeah, that's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about you know, like your local Hooters girl. And then then, like, the monster girls, you know what I mean? Like, what is it? Harris and you know, yeah, yeah, like, wow, one of them is like local. And the other one is like on TV. Yeah. Yeah.
Mike VO :It is. Over there. They're local. I get it. On a TV,
Roy Merritt :they're where they're from. They're low.
Mike VO :Elevation. The TV? Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Aaron Staudinger :We've got three titles. Alright, senior songs drove through and state bike night and there's a picture of a bike.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, so he statement API. So API fuelling are like right near each other.
Mike VO :He is in Indianapolis. Yeah. feelings in Southern California. I think he he, I think he went to Sturgis and he did the stunt show. And they're just Well, he blew up his bike. It blew up his bike the Sturgis Yeah, the stunt show. Yeah. And then he rebuilt it
Roy Merritt :Yeah, there's not a whole lot of details I know he was there for APIs bike night that when he picked it up Yeah. But yeah, that's where I want to get I want to get to where I can go out and blow up my motor D somebody else will fucking do you think he called HPI every day?
Unknown Speaker :where's where's my bike? Where's my bike?
Roy Merritt :I had a million things to do.
Cedric Landree :Yeah, probably.
Roy Merritt :He's probably happy not be riding
Unknown Speaker :and maybe I fucking Oh
Roy Merritt :come to a burnout not blown up
Mike VO :seems to be the only way he makes any money.
Aaron Staudinger :I saw something he's making
Roy Merritt :money somewhere else there's nothing he just started making money do it that he had to be able to afford a Harley and tires and all the
Mike VO :2004
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, it's all it's not. I
Roy Merritt :mean, it's Yeah, you still go for that before you get there. So how many times has he laid it down?
Cedric Landree :About the India market collapsing right now? Okay. And oh, four during COVID you know, it's easily worth a couple million dollars. What?
Roy Merritt :What? I don't think millennials don't get them. They're weird. All they're there. Well, yeah, I'm sure bases.
Mike VO :I'm sure he had some you have to have some sort of whatever cuz, you know,
Aaron Staudinger :the 574 in a, like a 96 or 110 or something like that. It's not anything huge. Huh.
Mike VO :574 is a big cabinet. 96.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah. Well, the way he taps out, you want that
Roy Merritt :well Know that he wrote an MA not too long ago and was like I gotta get me one of these. Oh yeah. And I so bad wanted to be like don't be awesome to get out here and write a real ma you know because if you're doing rolling burnouts on a 96 I don't give a fuck what camera what you got done do it you get on a 128 with cam
Unknown Speaker :and it's
Roy Merritt :changed your life yeah I was gonna say is gonna be a whole different it's gotta be way easier. I mean on a bike like that to just yeah hold the brake and Nayla gas and drift around
Mike VO :yes so mad it makes Jamie bad. So easy. He gets mad at us.
Aaron Staudinger :Yeah, there's too much power down low, you could just fit a tire not possible. And that's still I don't understand that. Yeah, he
Mike VO :came a vicious out and then he went up and somebody called him and said they had their bike done somewhere else. There's not enough low end power. It canceled all of it. I was like,
Aaron Staudinger :Oh, here we go. All the time, man.
Roy Merritt :You know, when you click, you want the power there all the time on a whiteboard. You know? And if you let the clutch out at low RPM, you don't want to have to like Oh, well.
Mike VO :I just, it's just a matter of perspective. I said you're just used to having a 120 yard so you ride that way. Yeah, so when you write this that way, all you do smoke the tire because you have no power until 2500. And then it ramps up. Where were on these inmates, the way we build them. If you have the same amount of power at 2500 RPM as you have peak power on your 120 er, you're just gonna swap the tire all the time because you're because you're just gonna wire on the throttle. And if you just whack the throttle, you're gonna spend the tire doesn't matter if you're in
Aaron Staudinger :second gear, third gear. Take a couple of these bikes to the track and see how that translates to in a while. Like, because you're gonna leave that probably look what 35 three, about maybe? Right? I'm gonna say you just spin the tire. I'm gonna say on an MA Yes. on his bike on the 120 yard. You probably leave it like three. Yeah, probably. Oh, yeah. Let it hard. Let it hit pretty hard. It'll probably bog down just a little bit. That's gonna take off and rip. Dude, these inmates man, if you're leaving at three, forget you're gonna spank the tire you're gonna be on. You might as well leave 1500 1800 and just roll it.
Roy Merritt :I would venture to say I think if you took one of these ones when he you know, you know big builds with the heads and all that stuff. You'd be under a 10 second quarter mile bike. If you could lay if you could lay the rubber down together I bet Yeah.
Aaron Staudinger :Sounds apart and videos. And we just don't know
Roy Merritt :this ride is teen fastest motorcycle of all time or 10 second bite.
Aaron Staudinger :So Cory that's why I was wondering if they had incremental so you could see where they hit, you know 660 and see where they go because I've talked to several guys that drag race Harley's against like these higher boosters and stuff like that. Yeah. And they'll come through the trap at like 96 at the same time I have booster comes around the trap the same thing doing 120 miles an hour, but they're within a 10th or you ever seen the one another ever seen this high boost brace bike run? Oh,
Roy Merritt :here's what you got. That those things when they when they dial those things in and set them up? It's ridiculous dude. Like, nope, nobody fucking want that thing. You know? No, Harley is fun.
Aaron Staudinger :I want a Harley on it step. Really bad on a figure.
Roy Merritt :You know, we're talking stock high boots, but not Yeah, drag. You know what I mean? Like i think i think you know, you took up Liu monzi maybe I wouldn't mind seeing what mozzie you know, that bike would do on the track.
Aaron Staudinger :Because that thing's greener. Tracy's talking about trying to figure out how we can get the racetrack rented. And God do some messing around. Which one the drag strip or the 43 eighth mile track down here? Yeah, Columbia. Some stuff I practice in video work and
Roy Merritt :see what happens. Dude. Oh, my God.
Cedric Landree :I want to stop like I just want to raise my ratio with my KLM
Roy Merritt :Hey, we can do me.
Mike VO :Yeah, your bike Boston roadies bike dude. It did.
Roy Merritt :And roadie said he doesn't run anything but 87 octane, I
Cedric Landree :believe. I believe that
Roy Merritt :Yeah, he's like, only run 87 and that thing is like, fuck that
Cedric Landree :thing is like y'all are fucking idiots. You're putting it through you do shit. Isn't he like, like
Aaron Staudinger :10 and a half or 11 to one Twin Cam. I'm like,
Roy Merritt :Oh no, we're doing minus 40. This is not a street. 83 so when we did the dyno drags, you know, we brought us 83 because we were joking we said we're gonna do 83 drag dude. And I wrote is we swapped and everything and his bike was a little bit fatter.
Mike VO :I think it was that lane though.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, there was it. They were they were close, you know. In fact, roadies felt a little sloppier.
Mike VO :Yeah, I thought so too.
Roy Merritt :Yeah. So I was surprised that he was getting quicker time. But all said and done it felt like the clutch everything felt a little sloppy. But
Mike VO :it ran. That's why that's why
Roy Merritt :it's so easy to do that when you're on a dyno to just like rev it up and dump the clutch and go because there's no yeah, there's no way you so yeah, so easy fear. So on the ground.
Aaron Staudinger :front wheels pin down. Yeah, all that good stuff.
Roy Merritt :SDS and Jamie somewhere around? And Mark quarterman. Are
Cedric Landree :you talking about the Donald drag shootouts? Yeah, um, yeah. He's one beat the whole day. In 114. Yeah. And Jamie, who was smoking his tires through the whole thing. I'll tell you what, ty ty fuckin almost fucking playing off the fucking track.
Roy Merritt :Yeah, he got kicked off the dyno because yeah. Well, he cheated out of gear. So it was like, sort of slow down.
Cedric Landree :He was like burning the fucking tire off the fucking track. And it was like, peeling out.
Roy Merritt :Yeah. So. Well, I think we've recorded enough tonight. Yeah. I'm gonna play the outro check us out at Talkin braap.com I'll put some links and stuff to the episode on there. Till the next time. Give it hell. Transcribed by https://otter.ai