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Two for the Culture
Temptation Island and Reality TV: Why Relationships Fail for Entertainment
We explore the messy drama of reality dating shows like Temptation Island and discuss the surprising emotional toll breakups take on men versus women.
• Weekend recap featuring pedicure experiences and restaurant reviews
• Detailed breakdown of Netflix's Temptation Island and why relationships fail on TV
• Discussion about "sliding into DMs" as the modern approach to dating
• Personal stories of devastating heartbreak and emotional recovery
• Analysis of how emotional intelligence impacts relationship success
• Thoughts on whether men or women handle breakups more difficultly
• Conversation about political issues affecting men that aren't widely discussed
• Reflections on how leadership requires emotional control in relationships
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What's up? We are back with another episode of Two for the Culture how you feeling.
Speaker 2:I feel good, man, I feel good. What's today, monday?
Speaker 1:This today is Monday the 17th 17th Okay, cool, All right cool. Yes, sir, and I'm Justin Devante.
Speaker 2:I'm Stephen Ray.
Speaker 1:And we are back. How's your weekend?
Speaker 2:Weekend was good, man. A lot of work, a lot of work done. I'm starting a new thing with Ray so City. I'm going harder this year. Last year I did a couple hundred videos over the course of the year. Okay, and I'm going to do what Country Wayne said. He was like three videos a day, day, which for me is a little different, but uh, yeah. So I scripted for all those and then today I filmed the first 21. That's the first week.
Speaker 2:So oh, wow yeah, so it's gonna have to be like that every week for me oh, yeah, yeah, so my plant huh, how many hours is that? Hours I've actually been documenting it so um the the scripting process for all 21 was about five hours in like 45 minutes. Okay, okay and then the filming was actually two hours, two and a half hours.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So the meat of it, of course, is the editing but um, yeah, yeah, I'm just starting it, it getting a roll on it, and I'm gonna do it again another day this week so I could at least be two weeks up. So I'm not like scrambling and yeah, yeah, uh, but yeah, that was that was, that was my weekend. How about yours?
Speaker 1:uh, it was cool, yeah, so, uh, of course you know I'm working um during the weekend a lot, but the weekend we had a little time off, me and my girlfriend, so we spent that together.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we got some pedicures.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from a place that was cool. Now they got the little mimosas and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wine and water or whatever.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask you did you have them hoes? What's it called with the, with the gel over it, or?
Speaker 1:something, uh, no, no, they did like a natural buff oh, okay on the feet oh, for real, yeah yeah, what's cool they didn't do, they didn't like go crazy with it. You know, it's more of a yeah, like a feel-good experience, more anything else. It's not nothing I would do Like. I'll probably do like once every couple of years or once a year or something like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, I'd never felt the need to do it. It's just like something like more of a bonding experience, more than anything. You know there's chatting it up with my girlfriend or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They were both like American eyes. It's not like you know. They had the accent or whatever.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, that was racist.
Speaker 1:That was definitely racist. Not really, because it's like Vietnamese monopoly dominant.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if people who know who get their feet and nails done that it's Vietnamese dominated and they have heavy accents Because the people who did our toes wasn't from here. They wasn't born here, right, but they went to high school here.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay. So they grew up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm just saying it's not a language barrier. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't even think the sound is racist. You just said like we just got our feet and toes done, but they actually didn't have an accent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they didn't have an accent. Yeah, because if you know, you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm just saying it wasn't really a language when I said they was talking, communicating and just having a natural conversation.
Speaker 2:That's what.
Speaker 1:I mean Like yeah, but it wasn't like all right, this laying bears so so heavy. Why even discuss, you know, having a conversation?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's kind of what I was saying.
Speaker 2:See, I didn't feel uncomfortable Like they were.
Speaker 1:I never said we felt uncomfortable, but I'm just saying enough to have a, and what's going on?
Speaker 2:you know with everybody exactly, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1:So what? The girl who's doing my feet? She went to high school here, she had her own life story, whatever, and then the guy shoot that was doing her feet was it was a gay Asian dude no it was cool.
Speaker 1:You know, live locally and you know, so you know they had everything that was Referring what we should Eat out and try and different things like that. Yeah, so that was cool. Then we had. So we first went to this one place that my girlfriend Wanted to try. I wanted to try too. I'm not going to name the place, it was black owned, but uh, what's it called? Niggas? I'm not gonna name the place, it was black owned, but uh, what's it called niggas?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, I'm not related because it wasn't a good experience. Oh, okay, yeah, so we went. Why what was so?
Speaker 1:so did they have accents so I, you too, buddy, nah, uh, yeah. So what I first heard about it, it was because, um, I was picking up a lady who worked there, and you know she was. She was talking about her experience.
Speaker 1:She had that day and how you know, they ran out of food and she was, um, you know, somebody was upset, ready to like jack with her and she was telling about it, you know, and just over the phone, like I forgot what they ran out of, I felt like it was Oxtails, but it probably wasn't that and yeah, so she was very upset and argumentative, so you know. So I'm, you know, still wanting to give it a chance. So my girlfriend heard about it because, you know, through her own people, you know like it's just known to maybe have a long wait and you know you can, they do run out of things.
Speaker 1:So we both came in with that open mind. Like hey, people are saying hey, they ran out of food. You know, the food's great oh uh-huh yeah yeah, sometimes it's kind of hit or miss if you can have the item that shows on the menu.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, damn right, okay, so, damn. So. That was the all. That's a back review before you even walk in.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah, they might have so, yeah, so we get there. Um, and then you know, take our order. Well, one first sign they didn't have the alcohol that you wanted, which was like, uh, like either champagne or tequila, tequila, and so they didn't have tequila, which is like a natural alcohol they didn't have tequila period.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, oh not even the her brand right in general okay they got to do an alcohol run um, so they didn't have that, which was like okay, we'll live, you know. So we got waters. And then you know, we order our food. I may I forgot what I had. All right, I maybe did. I can't remember what I, what I did. So I ordered, she orders, and then, about an hour into our wait, they come in and say the owner comes in and says hey, you know, my staff half-assed and we're no longer serving brunch.
Speaker 2:An hour later.
Speaker 1:Yes, an hour later, yeah.
Speaker 2:And y'all not even drinking.
Speaker 1:We're drinking water.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like you know, take my number down and you know I'll comp your meal Next time. You won't have to pay anything. You'll have a free meal on us. I'll comp your meal Next time, you won't have to pay anything. You'll have a free meal on this. So for me, I know that he's a new business owner People who do the Instagram, catering and things like that. Now they're transitioning to having an actual brick and mortar building, uh-huh, and now you're managing a staff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now you got your own expenses, things that you don't a staff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now you got your own expenses, things that you don't calculate in your mind. It's a lot.
Speaker 2:How new are they?
Speaker 1:I would be stretching to say they're six months in. Oh my God, I don't know though he may be longer, but the establishment how it's ran don't know, though he they. He may be longer, but the establishment how it's ran is clearly new.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, there's. There's no question about it, because I heard about that situation months ago. You know about them not ordering getting the food, Correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And um, perfect, and so, and so when we get there and we have that experience, it's like okay, that's kind of what I expected. He's a young dude trying to get things correct. I'm not even mad, yeah. Yeah, it's just kind of, but she is obviously yeah. So we leave this to Asma. I took his number down. I'm probably not going to use the complimentary mail because it's just not what I do or even care about. Yeah, um, but you know it's a pricey meal. We didn't, of course. We didn't pay for it because we didn't get it right um so then we went to noir or nor
Speaker 1:you know, I are yeah, noir, yeah, yeah, so so everybody tells me, you know, um, that the food's great there and you know you have a good time. I've never heard anybody say that the food was bad, right, so I'm thinking it's gonna be overhyped. Another black owned restaurant. Okay, it's, it's both of the. Well noir is more and I'm probably saying the name wrong. It's more of a fine dining experience. It sounds like it in the other spot, but they both have comparative prices. Maybe Well Noir is more and I'm probably saying the name wrong is more of a fine dining experience.
Speaker 2:It sounds like it In the other spot, but they both have comparative prices.
Speaker 1:Maybe Noir is maybe or Noir is a tad bit more expensive, like if the salmon at the other place was $30, this one's going to be $40. I'm just naming the price. So they're like you know, comparable, but the other ones, noir's going to be a little bit more, so I get there. Oh, keep in mind that we had a reservation already at Nora, but she canceled it because we walked into the other place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she tried to scramble to get reservations. It's like, hey, you know it's busy, you know the bar may have seats at the bar, but it's not like we can save your seat at the bar. It's comfort, you know first come, first serve, so we get there. They luckily have seats at the bar for us. We sit, take our food, wait a little bit and then our food comes out. I get the lamb chops, potatoes and eggs.
Speaker 2:It's brunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, okay, so it's still what?
Speaker 1:so it's still brunch time. Yeah, it's. Uh. It's like, because we got the, we had reservations at the nail shop, is what I'm calling it. Um, at maybe 11, uh-huh yeah yeah, so brunch is gonna be until maybe three or four right, right, I was just going off of the other place.
Speaker 2:How you said that the the staff you know he was he didn't have. He was understaffed yeah and we're not doing brunch anymore.
Speaker 1:So I'm not gonna say he was understaffed. I'm saying that they didn't do a great job at cooking whatever there's preparing so hold on, so he said. He basically said my staff sucks yes oh my god he said pretty much that's.
Speaker 2:I thought he was saying like bro, I'm understaffed.
Speaker 1:No, he said like yeah yeah, it wasn't whipping up whatever. Okay, well, okay, okay. So yeah, I was going off of the time frame.
Speaker 2:I thought that it was like it wasn't whipping up whatever. Okay, well, okay, okay. So yeah, I was going off of the time frame. I thought that it was like 3 already.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we probably got there at 1230 and then waited till 130. I was watching the game chilling. It was taking long for the food to come out, but it's kind of you know what I expected.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Noir ran slightly.
Speaker 2:I think it's Noir.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, nor rent slightly. I think it's noir.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, people say different but who knows, I was just trying to save you from doing it for another hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure yeah, I'm pretty sure I could be wrong yeah, yeah, but do you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, no, I are yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2:Uh, there is a certain type of photography. It's called noir, okay, and it's spelled like that N-O-I-R.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:So I just I would assume that it's called noir.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And it gives off that feel, that stylish feel.
Speaker 1:The good establishment is what I would say, the established establishment looking ass.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so the place we had lamb chops, I had potatoes, I had some fruit and I also had a bougie margarita or a bougie sangria.
Speaker 2:Oh, right, right right.
Speaker 1:That was hitting. The bougie sangria was hitting. My girlfriend had the same drink as me as well as she. Her meal was like salmon stuff with grits okay and yeah, and fruit on the side, or something like that. When, so like when I had the eggs with the potatoes and eggs, I took one bite of potatoes and instantly got happy yeah like the whole mood changed yeah it's so weird like I mean I'm happy now you. At first I was like yeah, this is going to be an overhyped experience.
Speaker 2:Did they cop your meal too?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:You damn near a brand ambassador right now, right.
Speaker 1:I was like, wow, this is actually the best cheese and eggs I've ever had in my life. I don't even get it how they made it that well, my food was great, her food was great, and then we had a great experience right, this sounds good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it sounds like I need to. Yeah, yeah, no, like now.
Speaker 1:Now that it's like, okay, it's no longer overhyped, it is very worth the the price oh, yeah, it is great, yeah, yeah, and it's great to see because you know it's comparative to a fine dining experience.
Speaker 2:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:But it's also Black-owned, so I just want to get you. So it's not no, no, I'm just saying that some people like to think that just because Black-owned like bro, you should be charging a little less. Uh-huh yeah right, right and that's why I say it like that. But I highly recommend, would definitely go again. The guy who owns it Also owns a club called Links. I haven't been in, I think I've heard of it. I've did trips there several times.
Speaker 2:Did you take me there? Did you take me there one time?
Speaker 1:No, I've never took you there, I've never been inside.
Speaker 2:You did pick up, sir, but I'm familiar. Did you take me there? Huh, did you take me there one?
Speaker 1:time. No, I never took you there, I've never been inside. Oh shit, you did pick up, sir. Okay, okay, yeah, so, but I'm familiar, but hey, I would say 9.3 out of 10.
Speaker 2:Whoa yeah yeah, whoa yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I went to Church and Union last time, which was a good experience, I which was a good experience. I liked my burger, I liked a lot of those things, but that place was so much better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, not even a question. Did they have somebody playing a piano in there, or?
Speaker 1:something. Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't even say that. Yeah, it wasn't like that. It was very busy inside, though, for so it was raining in the A's so it was a lot of people there. So we get back here. Since it was raining, I was like I'm not going to drive right now, so we get in there. And so we decided to turn on a TV show, a new Netflix series called Reality TV, called Temptation Island. Have you heard of?
Speaker 2:it no.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:What is it on Hulu Netflix? It's called Temptation Island, have you?
Speaker 1:heard of it. No, okay. What is it on Hulu Netflix? It's called Temptation Island.
Speaker 2:I'm sure I can just imagine where this is going. Okay.
Speaker 1:So let me set it up for you. So, couples go on Temptation Island. First there's four couples, so four girls's four couples. So four girls, four guys, right? So then they. So what the show is trying to do is tempt the other couples into doing something to show their loyalty. So there's 12 men, 12 women all there are single women trying to pursue the, the couples in their relationship how many people are here?
Speaker 2:hello, there's 12, means 12 women this.
Speaker 1:For this there's four couples, so eight people okay or women for men yes so then, so they're together yes, then eight out of the so so, so.
Speaker 1:So how it happens is then the cup, then the couples come, are together, and then they bring out 12 women, 12 men. The couples are going to separate the 12 women go with the four men and the 12 men go with the four women, and they're all on separate islands yeah, so you can see how messy this shit is absolutely yeah, absolutely why any woman would ever decide to think that that was a good idea to bring their men there is is beyond me.
Speaker 2:I was thinking the opposite. Why, oh well shit, yeah, both, yeah like.
Speaker 1:Right, I can see, see. So this is where the psychology game comes along, because you know you're on TV. It's Netflix.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So women are going to be less promiscuous than they would be if it was behind closed doors.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Men are going to be men, yeah. So, the one dude, the one black dude that was on the show.
Speaker 2:One.
Speaker 1:No, excuse me, the one black dude of the couples. Right he was. No, no, excuse me, the one black dude of the couples. Right, so there's three, there's three white men, one black dude, one black girl and three white girl and one maybe she's asian or something. Yeah, she's something, something. Yeah, yeah, she's not white, though, or all the way. Um, so the one, the one black dude, he's like bro, I like, he's like, I like threesomes, you know that's how he?
Speaker 1:starts out the show. I'm highly sexual. I like threesomes. My girl won't let me have threesomes.
Speaker 2:You know, as soon as he gets to the island.
Speaker 1:But that's before. This is like during the interview.
Speaker 2:Oh the interview, yo what's up, I'm.
Speaker 1:Da, da, da da da. I like threesomes, of course it didn't go like that, so I'm I was like all right, bruh him, yeah, yeah, yeah I was like because after I played a game with my girlfriend, who you think is gonna cheat, right, I like none of them gonna make it, yeah, it's in my head.
Speaker 1:I was like none of them are really gonna make it out the show. All of them want to cheat and she's like you should have faith. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, bro if, because I thought in my head that the 12 girls are designed for them to tempt, Right, but the 12 girls are actually there, being single, trying to find a man, Uh-huh, and trying to find their man, which is weird. So I was like I thought they was like paid to, like hey, you got to tempt them to fall. You know what I mean. But they was actually. No, I'm actually pursuing love too.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to take somebody's man.
Speaker 1:Yes, and the 12 men? Is I'm going to take somebody?
Speaker 2:I'm going to take somebody's girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, perfect, perfect, yeah, exactly, okay, yeah, um perfect, perfect, little, uh, yeah, concoction so so it's it's a great show because it is messy as hell. I'm good, and they set it up every step of the way to be messy. Yeah, so a part of of how they make it messy is because they're all on the island and they have what's called bonfires right so you so.
Speaker 1:They each show the person a clip of what's going on in their part of the island first. So any messy moment you talking about her man like, one person was like why? Why, dear god? Why did? Did the universe send me this piece of shit, man? She?
Speaker 2:said that yes To herself.
Speaker 1:She said that to another guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, she said it to another guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was recorded.
Speaker 1:Another girl says my man has bitch tendencies Shit. Another girl says my man has bitch tendencies, yeah, yeah. So keep in mind.
Speaker 2:They're watching that on the other side.
Speaker 1:So that's not the first bonfire, by the way, I'm just not remembering the first one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it was all set up to like damn, this is what you're saying, this is how you really feel. Bet, this was the first bonfire, so they was already having like establishing connections because all of the women of course there's beauties behind the eye of the beholder, but all the women are bad to somebody and definitely beautiful, yeah, so you're gonna out of the 12 women. You're gonna find what you like in there right, that's not even a question. So um long story long.
Speaker 2:So it's so pretty much what episode did you get to?
Speaker 1:I'm close to the end okay do you want me to spoil it?
Speaker 2:um, yes, okay, okay, okay yeah, so I'm with.
Speaker 1:So the black dude, so all four of them. In my eyes they kind of all but one cheated Right Straight up One. The only reason they spared his ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The only reason he didn't cheat is because the girl her name was Alex, she wasn't feeling him Damn, she was feeling the black dude. The girl her name was Alex, she wasn't feeling him Damn, she was feeling the black dude. And she wound up having a threesome with the black dude with another chick Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so she spared him Because he was like hey, I'll take a shot of this, margarita, if you kiss me. She said I don't even like tequila. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahquila, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile in her room was a big ass bottle of tequila.
Speaker 1:She's like bruh, I ain't really feeling this bad like yeah so that's only reason why is because she kind of spared his relationship and she didn't really show the really unflattering clips of him, I feel like. So the show spared him and she spared him yeah uh. But but the black dude he came out, he, you know, he uh, he gets his threesome whatever comes out the bathroom. He's like damn, it's burning time. Keep in mind, they're gonna show the clips of this happening to his girl yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he comes in. He comes in like you know, you have your one-on, your your the, the follow-up after what happened to yourself with all the cameras talking about the incident. He's like I just came out of the threesome.
Speaker 2:I don't have no regrets.
Speaker 1:You know, honesty is the best policy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, you know, honesty is the best policy, yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't she want honesty, yeah. Damn yeah, would you go on a show like that?
Speaker 1:if you had a girl, that's what I was going to ask you. Uh-huh, but long story short, the part is she still. You can tell she still wants her man yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah who, the black dude, the still she's, you can tell she still wants her man.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, who the black girl who saw him. Yeah, she. She was like if this, if this was reality, this would never happen. He's only doing this because your island is not by me girl, it already happened, yeah yeah, yeah. And then the other two white girls it was his idea.
Speaker 2:He's like hey, they got a show on the other two white girls broke up with their man. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you also get a tablet to um during uh later on in the episode to record yourself for 30 seconds saying hey, I still want to be with you.
Speaker 1:Be speaking to you, yeah, yeah, and you can either show, you can either take record that 30 seconds or, uh, not send them anything at all. Yeah, so two of the guys didn't get anything at all and of course that hurt, damn, yeah, yeah, yeah and so, but they would send recordings and, like you know, kind of mixed messaging a little bit, um. But then the one couple who, the dude that didn't cheat, they they had. They're like I'm proud of you, you're the only one that you know, stay strong in it. And then he's like I love you, I miss you. This makes you want us to be together. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. And then he, he's like you know, you're the only one I want. This is all I wanted. Proof you, my number one. Blah, blah, blah. So they got stronger in it. Only one couple got stronger stronger.
Speaker 2:in that show the ratio sounds right, the black woman.
Speaker 1:She in denial Pretty much. And then two, they broke up and now they're pursuing the other guys in the house.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That is wild.
Speaker 2:That's wilder than any other Netflix show that I've seen.
Speaker 1:It's extremely wild because it's messy. Because, like, this is how messy they are. So not only do they have the bonfire where they show clips after days of them having sex with other people, Right, they also they have this tent to where there's like hey, you can go inside the tent and we can't film you, we just hear the sound. So of course they film you going into the tent. So if you go into the tent, the other house gets a blaring signal. It's like and it turns red.
Speaker 2:As soon as they enter, as soon as they enter.
Speaker 1:So both houses get it. If a woman goes in there with another guy, then they hear it on the other house. If another, if another uh man goes in with one of those women, they hear on each side so they're like they don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:They don't quiet as fuck. Huh, they're being quiet as fuck, not saying anything what?
Speaker 1:no, they're going inside the tent and it alerts the other, the other island. So so, yeah, so it's not being quiet because you, the only thing you're trying to do is not see them. Hey, I'm trying to fuck in this tent or I'm trying to kiss in this tent yeah but it's going to alert, but they don't know who who's going inside the tent. They just know that somebody went inside the tent right, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So they just know somebody went in, but you just said that that sound was being recorded no sound inside the tent is recorded can they hear that?
Speaker 1:no, no not until you get to the bonfire, you can see who went inside the tips, or if they're moaning or if they're lip smacking or whatever, okay, yeah, so you can be quiet, but you're. You're also having sex inside the tent, so you may be moaning. Or they got hella audio a boom mic so you can be quiet. But you're also having sex inside a tent, so you may be moaning. Or they got hella audio a boom mic so you can hear like does this feel good.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, and they're mouthing it out in the subtitles Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's how messy it is. So people like this one, the black girl, this is before he has a threesome. This one, um, the black girl, this is before he has a threesome. He didn't go inside the tent, but she was crying, thinking like I hope it's not him.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile he's having a whole threesome outside of the tent, so it don't even. Oh, yeah, okay, he's outside, for real, for real right right, he don't care, he has no regrets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no regrets that is.
Speaker 2:That's wild. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not really surprised. I'm not really surprised. They have a lot of different shows. I felt like we're leading up to that. I think that's the thanos of all of the shows that they had before yeah, uh, no, yeah I was like why somebody would do this to to show loyalty.
Speaker 1:That's a hell of a. That's a hard way to play a game Because you're with beautiful women for several days. Like I know, they've at least been for 10 days.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you're going on. Y'all got scheduled dates with each other. You can pick somebody you got to go on a date with. You're taking shots at the house, drunk as hell. I couldn't get on a show like that. I'm like for what I feel like you are.
Speaker 2:I feel like to get on a show like that your relationship either one is not I don't know if your relationship is real or not like why would you go on there? It's kind of like what's the word common sense? Like bruh, why would you do that? You?
Speaker 1:know, I think it's just famous. Maybe, like it's a part of that is being want to be famous.
Speaker 2:I dated somebody before and they had an opportunity to go on this show called something with X, something with an X, to where they would go on an island and I guess a bunch of different people would see their X's on the island and kind of see what happens. And she turned it down. I mean, maybe she turned it down because of me, because I was like what the fuck are you doing? Like what is this? But she definitely thought about the money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean For sure. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of money. Absolutely, it still builds your fame. At the same time, it does. Yeah, yeah, it does, so you can play it better.
Speaker 2:I wonder if somebody like transitioned out of that to like a better, not a better but a more range to their celebritism.
Speaker 1:Right, so I mean.
Speaker 2:Is that a word?
Speaker 1:I'm sure yeah, so like is that a word?
Speaker 2:I'm sure yeah, so like love is blind right out there.
Speaker 1:No, I ain't talking about love is blind but I'm just saying I'm saying temptation island type well, I mean that this first season who knows?
Speaker 2:it depends on how likable you are no, I'm saying right now like dude, can you think of anybody in your head that started off on something like that? That's just like they have a, a, a, I don't know, a, a career of I career, that's not that.
Speaker 1:But it evolved the love and hip hop of the world. You know, it's just reality television yeah if you're charismatic, you can in your job and you got the right team around you, you can flip into a lot of different things okay, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2:I can see that with, like, the bad girls club and shit like that but he clearly wanted to go there for a threesome.
Speaker 1:The black dude, that was really on his mind.
Speaker 2:He manifested that shit. Yeah, he definitely walked out with the win. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I mean it's 12 women and they bad and they young and they drinking.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why you and they on the island with them by themselves. So yeah, I feel like it's just a certain type of person. You got to be a certain type of person to go on there, you know, and I feel like those shows are really only made for, like, the college ages, you know.
Speaker 1:Nah, because there's men on the other island that are 36. Shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're in 30s. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a certain type of some of the young dudes are 22, I got friends that would do that yeah uh, I don't know about, in a relationship I don't know, maybe they would, I don't know yeah, I mean you could make it, it could be.
Speaker 1:I mean, the island is lit for the guys, yeah, yeah for for the, for the other guys, the 12 islands, like bruh, like that, don't even seem that lit like you just have fun amongst your, your, your boys, really kind of because a lot of those girls aren't gonna be be with it, not because they don't want to.
Speaker 1:It's because their image, so they can't yeah their image having sex immediately on the island you gotta be like strong in your player so they become a lot of them like you're my bestie. You know I mean type of shit and then. But some dude like the two that broke off um, it's the white girl, she's in a. Pretty much they have their in a black dude that's on the island.
Speaker 1:They probably gonna have sex yeah yeah, yeah, but that was stemming off of some breakup type stuff. And then another girl, her. She saw her man having sex with another person, so that opened her up to be you know more out there. So she kissed another guy. She's into the young dude that's on there. Oh my god yeah, so they may end up something, but it may be like too much. You know what I mean. We'll see.
Speaker 2:They don't usually ever work out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course it's not, but it's that one couple, though.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've ever seen it. Love is Blind. With it was a black girl and a white dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they told me about yeah.
Speaker 2:I think they still together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, there's some couples on Love of Bottoms work, but this ain't that. This ain't designed for people to stay Absolutely. Yeah, this is designed for literally mess Like how can we create some mess?
Speaker 2:and shit for TV. What the fuck? Yeah, that sounds like an amazing watch.
Speaker 1:Literally.
Speaker 2:What's the next episode?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, like we binged it for real and we haven't binged anything in a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're like two we're on. It was Saturday, so we're on Monday, and we probably got maybe two episodes left. Damn, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I like to watch Netflix shows anyway anyway, yeah, yeah so literally just like temptation island.
Speaker 1:But if you was, if you was with your boys, then it would be like hella fun. But if you come in there as a couple, you just know that your shit's gonna probably get ruined uh, yeah yeah that's all.
Speaker 2:That's how it always kind of seemed to me. Have you ever seen the ultimatum? Yes I love that. It's so messy that what you're talking about is like times five oh, yeah, yeah, the ultimatum. You got to pick another couple right, and you got to marry them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly that that one is like you can, you can't get out of your couple. You know you can't choose nobody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you stuck with the good and the bad of them and that's just going to be a turn up because they're not gonna probably be your partner. Yeah, for the most part, but that's completely. If you ain't taught to that. One chick that's there, there's another chick that's bad, and another and another yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1:And then not only that, and not only that, they they kick off people on the show and they also bring up. So if they kick off two boys and two girls, they're bringing in another two boys and another two girls. So, yeah, they're getting badder, you know what I mean. Alright, let's bring up some more. That's messy as hell, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:That's a funny show.
Speaker 1:Have you watched Drewski's show? I watched a little bit, like the have been love yeah, that shit is funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's grade a entertainment yeah yeah, but that's just entertainment.
Speaker 1:He ain't really looking for love for but it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, the man got studs on there he is he kissing the studs? He had kissed one stud on the last one, not like a big super smooch, but like they basically won a challenge in a way. They won a challenge and he like pecked them on the lips. He pecked them on the lips, but why?
Speaker 1:are you calling him? I don't know, because it sounds wow.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I did that. That's hilarious. I naturally did that shit.
Speaker 1:Damn, that's funny. That's how much the stud looks like. No.
Speaker 2:Which is like I just super stereotyped the stud, like when I did that. No, like it wasn't like a super masculine stud. Oh, okay. But either way, that's funny and they had Dr Umar on there.
Speaker 1:Talking to the white girl.
Speaker 2:Everybody that wasn't black. He was talking to them and just like grilling they ass for not being black. For real. It was hilarious. You gotta watch that. Sometimes the Dr Umar episode Is probably the most funny. Yeah, that shit. I think that shit had got like a million In like a couple hours.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, yeah, I definitely probably Got to see that drug. I started to watch it but, yeah, I got distracted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's super messy, super messy, like in a ghetto way, girls fighting.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so it's like some Zeus shit. Zeus yeah, this is like, this is like. This is like what's that show called Flavor of Love? Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, but 50% of the women have anger management issues. Oh okay, yeah. So as soon as the word bitch flies out, you're gonna see hands like from somewhere. It's a girl from memphis on there. She definitely beating girls up. Yeah, under the table, just clapping my hands, yeah, yeah no, um, no, that's, that's it.
Speaker 1:That's like like the zeus one with the aaron the plumber yes, in a way yeah, he is coming up bro, did you see the video with aaron the plumber?
Speaker 2:this man was he called? Uh no, he was on. He filmed himself. First of all, he's trying to fight everybody in the world, right? Yeah, so he got all that hype and all that type of shit and then he filmed it. There's a clip. There's a clip. It's about like one minute long and it starts off and it's three. It's three different clips put together. The first clip is him saying I need that, I need that fade, I need that fade.
Speaker 2:Yo whack, you know, whack 100 I'm like whack, I need that fade, um, this other dude, I need that fade on blood or on whoever he was talking to. It was mostly the bloods On the bloods. I need that I need. And it went to the next clip. Next clip was him in the bed with the phone, with the phone up like this, it was on speaker and it was Wack. Wack was like Nigga when we it was okay, yo yo mama, yo yo girl, your kid won't give a fuck about nothing, nothing. And he was like bro, I wasn't even like really on that, for real. He said I wasn't even really like boop.
Speaker 2:And then it went to the third clip and the third clip was him in the car. Him in the car and it was somebody filming on the passenger side and he's looking over. He's looking over at the passenger side while he's, uh, driving. He's like, oh, I'm going to the jailhouse, I'm going. No, no, he's like I'm going to the police, I'm going to the police. He said killing moms. They want to off moms. He said they want to off moms. Oh, he got to go. He did it, he did it Boop.
Speaker 2:We didn't stop.
Speaker 1:I respect that, that's the last.
Speaker 2:What? What do you mean? The man was like I'll fight you, nigga, I'll fight you, I'll fight you. And the dude was like oh, what's up then?
Speaker 1:And he's like nah, no, no, I'm just saying he's like bro, I'm trying to fight. I have a boundary. You put a boundary on me. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I respect it, like bro, there's a boundary to his limit.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:He ain't just. And then he's recording himself backtracking. I kind of respect, respect that loki, okay, yeah, yeah, I just, it's funny to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's hilarious the whack was for real they talk about killing kids. Nah, he did it, he did it. I'm going to the police right now. That was too funny. That's hilarious, bro. That was too funny. Yeah, um yeah I got some random questions. Bro. All right, what you got from the final all right. So sponsored by chat gpt. So you know, on this podcast we do a lot of talking about relationships, politics and the culture yeah, right so I got a whole bunch of random things, um, to talk about since we're.
Speaker 2:So I got a whole bunch of random things to talk about since we're in. Since we're in the laughing mood right now, I'll ask one of these. So let's start with relationships. Okay, all right. And I haven't answered these in my head or anything.
Speaker 1:I'm hearing these for the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's hearing these for the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's hearing these for the first time, so I'm going to just go off. Something random Is sliding into DMs, the modern version of may I court you, or just digital thirst.
Speaker 1:It all depends on how you do it, but it can be both.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's, it's you like.
Speaker 2:Is it like? Do you think that the, the art of getting to know someone, is dying? Not necessarily not necessarily hold on, not necessarily like when you you go out and you're on a date or whatever. I'm saying like the first initial hollering at somebody. Do you think that has or is, is, is?
Speaker 1:dying. I want to go back. I I want to hold that question because I want to go back to what you just said about the sliding to them what it is. It is that that note. Do you like me, yes or no? Yeah, or maybe yeah that's what sliding into the ends remind me of because it is hard to say what you, how you feel in person. So you want to, at least you know, take that rejection by yourself.
Speaker 2:You don't want it to be front-facing I feel like do you like me with that? I feel like, do you like me? Yes or no is way more aggressive than sliding into a DM.
Speaker 1:Because you just say hey, you can say hey.
Speaker 2:You can say, oh, I've seen somebody put a basketball emoji Like, oh, my ball stood in your court, something you know. But do you like me, yes or no? I mean, that's very blunt and to the point, right.
Speaker 1:But at the same time it is trying to get somebody's attention because that's somebody you like, so you want them to talk to you if anything, so that's what so?
Speaker 2:but yeah, it's not, of course, exactly equivalent but that's very similar, but I'm sorry yeah, I feel like that's even what you just said is a part of what I'm saying about like the game aspect, because like you doing it and writing it on and giving it to the girl and like the physical world, it's like it still is like damn, he did all, he put his. You know that's like a dude walking across the street to a girl. She sees him walking the whole way. I'm like damn, like he's like really trying to get at me so I feel like that's a uh upper level of um, what's the word?
Speaker 2:just trying to get down, trying to holler at somebody what's, what's? Is there another word for that?
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I think it's both of those yeah but how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:uh sliding to your dm um of it being what like the new version of hollering at people yeah it's definitely that. It's absolutely that I think I have been in social media for so long, and I'm so at this. At this point, I'm used to the thought of whoever I get with is probably not in my city, so, and I've grown to get to this point, though, just being a social media for so long.
Speaker 2:And your videos do this, and then you see somebody and then you're like shit. She might reply because I got this many amount or I'm funny, whatever. So let me just say hi, so I have definitely indulged in that, but I I before that, though, um, or even now, if there is somebody that I think is cute, or whatever I will, I will walk up to her and I'll ask um, yeah, you know rejected or which. I think I got rejected the last time I did that.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was at an airport, she was too fine. What did she say to you? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what she said. I was just like. It was just that feeling. That that's when I remembered really like or or, actually thinking about it and assessing the whole thing. Now that social media definitely like, messes people up with that, uh. Or the confidence, because you get confidence from failures, basically, or trying, so okay well, anything I I I, you don't agree, not really. What are you having?
Speaker 1:that's a name anything you don't get confidence in failing.
Speaker 2:Yes, you, do you can do the bill.
Speaker 1:You can get bill resentment from it. It just depends on who you are but anything, anything I am car, anything, anybody live something that gets to you, that can get to you like maybe I'm not good enough, maybe I should stop trying, maybe I should move on to something else if you're confident one thing you're confident in I'm confident in um my ability to uh uh, see the perception of people. If that makes sense. If that makes sense, I don't know if that.
Speaker 2:See the perception of people.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm able to see through people very easily. I'm confident in that ability.
Speaker 2:Okay, was there ever a time where you felt that you had? Was there ever a time that you had to develop that skill, or a time that you didn't have that skill? Yeah, okay, so did you fail in that area?
Speaker 1:But that wasn't an intentional failure.
Speaker 2:I didn't say it was intentional. I'm saying confidence is built off of trial and error, like failing any confidence.
Speaker 1:But I think that confidence also builds off of success. If you keep constantly succeeding in an area that builds confidence, I think we're both right here. Yeah, I think it could be both. It just appears like you know, when you have the people who, what's? The people who don't get girls Lames.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:No, no, Like people who build resentment from women because they constantly get rejected and they turn out to really dislike yeah, or wanted to see them get. I'm not gonna say just like, but wanted to see them get in on because they feel they have a lack of confidence in themselves but then if you get, if you get a lot of women, then you may build that confidence and you know what I mean so it could work both ways and then, but then you.
Speaker 1:But I agree that it's trial and error that makes you great at what you do right, yeah, for sure, yeah but it can also reverse, go the other way, and that's why I'm saying okay, no, I think we.
Speaker 2:it's basically the same thing. Um, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see. I'm going to go with what you want, relationship politics or culture.
Speaker 1:I will go Keep going with relationship Relationship. Let's see, let's see.
Speaker 2:Let's see 200. Who suffers more from a breakup Men, women or the friends forced to listen to both sides? It?
Speaker 1:women or the friends forced to listen to both sides. It's definitely not the the friend.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Again, it's a chat, gpt, but yeah, it's going on the right track.
Speaker 1:Um, it, it. It all depends on who gets broken up with. I say men Suffers the most. Yes, every time I think I want to agree with you, but it just if. If I'm breaking up with a girl, I'm not going to suffer the most.
Speaker 2:Because you're breaking up with a girl. I'm saying like a bad breakup on either side. Who suffers the most? Oh?
Speaker 1:yeah, if the person let's ask the question, the person, if they're getting broken up with which male or female suffers the most from the one they get married.
Speaker 2:Men for sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah I think there's like a oh shit, what the fuck? Um, my bad, we got some technical difficulties, we're good. Um, let me literally take things like way harder, but I think maybe it's because of like the friend structure and how men operate that is because of that because men don't really like men don't really like me. I hate Saying Whatever's wrong In any relationship Just for some reason. It's just like. Saying what's wrong?
Speaker 1:In the relationship, like telling her what she's doing wrong.
Speaker 2:Telling my friends like Okay. This is going wrong In the relationship. It's like as soon as it leaves my mouth, I'm just like did I really need to say that?
Speaker 1:okay, okay and I never felt that for me.
Speaker 2:I know we talk all the time, but I'm saying like venting is one thing, but again I feel like with women, women talk more with their friends in general, so they have more opportunities to unload this pain or whatever. It is not saying that they don't go through anything or it's not hard. I just feel like with men I can't count on one hand men that come to me when they're like struggling in a relationship yeah, I mean yeah definitely have a friend to do so, yeah it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's few.
Speaker 2:I just feel like with women it's it's a little bit more. Um, I don't know, I'm not a woman, but it seems that every time I had a woman like her friend circle is like they'll lift her up. You know, like everybody and everybody come over if she's going through it, and all that you know? Okay, that's what you're saying, yeah the support system is just a little different. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah right, I totally agree on that.
Speaker 1:The support system is different, but if somebody's going through it, I think we do check on our people. Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, we may not stop everything we're doing to make sure they're okay, but it depends on what happened, you know yeah yeah, so if there's a point to where it's like hey bro, I know how much he, because we have one of our friends like I know how much he loves her yeah so if something goes awry and you know she cheats or something like hey, we need to check on this man because he's devastated right now yeah and so it.
Speaker 1:For a while it was like we had our conversations when it would be not specifically cheating, but issues in the relationship, and then we'll all we'll come back and be like bruh. We had to come as like bruh, we don't he? She's not good for him, right? Yeah, he may not see this, but he's actually above her uh, and I feel that with a lot of guys.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, a lot of my friends. It's like bruh like, because some, some women, they don't realize how much they struggle with the communication part of it, and then they also think very highly of themselves, so they don't think it's them.
Speaker 2:I mean, that happens a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess there's certain type of people too that that happens with. All in all yeah, I just that um the way men operate versus women. I could just see more so that men like really take shit like harder um absolutely, I mean I, I can speak for myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I took my shit hard yeah, very hard. I don't even know if you can remember the time that you know when me and my ex girlfriend uh-huh broke up.
Speaker 2:I'm not broken up it wasn't even.
Speaker 1:We wasn't even together, to be honest. We was always on the back and forth and then we was like we're in a relationship but we're not phase so. So when you, when you came in, it was more so we wasn't in a relationship, but I very much still loved her. I'm only going to speak for myself. That was very troublesome for me. It's really hard for me to hear Me too.
Speaker 2:That was crazy. I ain't never even seen me that low before. That shit was crazy. I ain't never even seen me that low before. That shit was crazy. Like I was fucking working out, just fighting tears, working out, because you know, this relationship was so big and huge and when it ended it was just like damn, it was like a death. It was like a death in the family. That shit was wild.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can still say that I never wished that on me, I never wished that on nobody, on me in particular, like one thing A that it's hard for me to relive.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is one of them. Yeah, it's just like one of my top things to relive. Yeah, it's just like one of my top things to relive, cause I just remember how like I'll be in a in a class and how I was the the that was so heavy I couldn't even hear anybody.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you could be talking like Justin, I couldn't hear you. You know what I mean. That would be so loud, all I could so loud. All I could think about was her. Yeah, like going through that motion that I would like any relationship. I was like I'd rather be by myself than feel this yeah, yeah. If I have to scramble and feel out and what you're doing and where you're at, I'm gonna break up because yeah I can't.
Speaker 1:I'd rather move on than have to feel this pain of worrying about you. Yeah. Absolutely, that was yeah To go on a full panic of overthinking. I'd rather be at peace. That's why I try. You know, I've been loyal and Lord will not constantly be there. I'm humbly saying my loyalty. Is I just like peace, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just relax.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is a total different ball game. Yeah, yeah, that is wild. Like I can even understand how you know men in long-term relationship marry with kids and all that. Oh my god, like if something happens and you gotta deal with that shit new kids and this and that and houses and so so I so.
Speaker 1:Now we're on a deep level, and I want to get just a tad bit more deeper, if I may yeah how do you think and I'll respond, but I want to ask you how do you think your girl reacted compared to how you were reacting at the time? If you was to guess, during the breakup oh, not the same at all.
Speaker 2:No, I was super surprised of how she was even acting. Yeah, like I was not. That that was one of the main reasons why I was just like super messed up in the head. I was just like distraught. I'm like man, I could have sworn this type of shit would never happen to me and it was happening in real time and it wouldn't. It didn't stop happening and I'm like it was just move after move, after move and I'm like yo, I, I just felt like I was living in a different world. So her on her side, I can't speak for and I also can't speak for whatever drove or whatever drives a woman to act differently. So I'm sure 100. I had some type of play into that of pushing a certain person to their points, just to give credit. But, um, yeah, I was surprised, I, I was, I was, um, I was messed up about that. But how she, she reacted. It was already done and I feel like that. I feel like it was a total different phase.
Speaker 1:That's what you're saying. She was on the phase of getting over the situation while you were just going through the breakup phase.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm still in love, I'm still like you're my woman and all this stuff. And then this is boom Like no.
Speaker 1:That's very tough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm thinking um for women, which I hear a lot sometimes they're already done. Like they already done, did the process, cried and this and that while you was at work yeah right shit by the time you get back and all this is that that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's kind of like commitment, um, the whole breakup phase, you know, or them moving on. It's just committed to I said I was gonna leave this nigga, I'm gonna leave him, I'm gonna do what I did. So they're just in the, the commitment of what they already did. So that's probably like a whole different process of pain and all that for them. Depending on who they are, they could just be like evil, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I have a sibling that's on that route, like like, I don't know, I've I've never saw her in love okay, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, whether she met. Yeah, yeah, how she handles and moves. It's a study. You know what I mean. It's like fast, it's not. It's evil to whoever she's with. I look at it that way, uh-huh uh-huh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:And how she moves, but it's like you can't disturb her emotionally, like you can't cheat on her a million times and she would react emotionally Like I'm making. That's not a true statement, but that's the feeling I get. Like okay, ed, but if you piss her off, it's enough for her to stab you Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's so zero to 100 type thing.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm saying it wrong and I'm not properly articulating myself when I say piss her off. You could ask her the same question 10 times and that's enough for you to get punched in the face, okay. Yeah yeah, yeah, but if you was to have sex with? Another chick it wouldn't be that much disturbing, it wouldn't be enough for her to be physically violent with you.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah yeah, her, her emotion, maybe emotional intelligence, and maybe she hasn't met the right person, but from what I've seen, it's like, dang, do you love anybody or do you love what they do for you?
Speaker 2:Or do you love what?
Speaker 1:they do for you. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, so it's more of if you can be a very good provider and I'll mostly react off your. This is my own synopsis. This could very well not be true, but I'll react off of the thing of the providing being taken away versus I can replace you with a million providers, right, yeah, yeah, so it doesn't have to be you in particular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just what you do for me, yeah I could say, yeah, that's, that's a interesting yeah, but my girl is not on that level.
Speaker 1:You know she's very, yeah she's, she's very much into the person she's with are you saying your girl now?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, exactly, right, right, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like my girl can't paint her face. Yeah, she can't be like you know, grieving and I'm not noticing uh-huh okay no, yeah, at least with me. Now she may be able to do that with her last partner, like be behind herself. But you can very much tell She'll use words that I can tell exactly how you feel Like the way she'll say interesting.
Speaker 2:Oh, interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Say what you got to say.
Speaker 2:Do we got to talk about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's just interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's just interesting. That's too funny. Uh, where are we at?
Speaker 1:oh we, right on an hour um, you want to do a political one all right, let's see a political one.
Speaker 2:It was something that I was looking at. I thought was pretty thought provoking. I thought was pretty thought provoking. These are a couple good ones, so I'm going to go with the first one. Has social media made political conversations Better or worse?
Speaker 1:Social media made political Conversations better or worse.
Speaker 2:I would say worse. Right, I would think. Would think it works, right, yeah, I would think worse. There's too much information out there uh, yeah, and that's so.
Speaker 1:That's very vague, um, but I mean, and then it's everybody's opinion and you don't know who's saying what, if they're actually a real person or if they're a bot, and so many people troll yeah I can. I can never take it too serious, like yeah right, I do believe that.
Speaker 2:Uh, so what political issues impact men the most, but are rarely talked about? What do you think?
Speaker 1:what political issues impact men the most? But I rarely talked about do you got one that comes around know?
Speaker 2:you, you, you be honest a little bit more than me, so I was curious to what you would think I mean nothing on the top of your head I mean nothing.
Speaker 1:I think that that's rarely talked about. Um, I think I would just go with. If I'm thinking something that just comes to my head, I I would say abortion.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, nobody talks about the man in that it's rarely talked about. It takes two people to tango.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you automatically eliminate the one, as if his opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:That was a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's just kind of how it's like dang, his opinion doesn't matter at all, so he's literally just a sperm donor in every situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah and how that's and how they talk about it's women's rights, and men chew. You know like they get a say. It's like yeah, because it also took me to create that child as well. I understand that it is in your womb, but that is also my seed, so I should be at least to have a conversation and say and to be able to put into your decision making. Now I don't have to be the person that puts the nail in the coffin, but like hey, my opinion matters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it doesn't really truly matter. Yeah, so I think, that's hard even say for real, you know, because it's really not my body, it's not so.
Speaker 2:But there, uh, people basically like going through it or whatever, and like homes that are split up because men aren't there yeah, right right, uh, I think that could be one, because it, you know, and then if there are people that are taking advantage of that, then it's really just, in a way, for the people that are taking advantage of it. It's solidifying the uh homes, uh, that you know, the family isn't together, yeah, so it's like splitting up families, um, and kind of making it. I don't know if it would be a norm, but it would just it would. It would strengthen the disrupt in families that don't, you know, uh, I guess really have much right, right, right, right, um, yeah, definitely back in the old day for sure, because that's kind of what it was designed. Families that don't, you know, uh, I guess really have much.
Speaker 1:Right right, right right. Um, yeah, definitely back in the old day, for sure, cause that's kind of what it was designed to do, I think, if you ask me yeah um, because the government is if they given our handouts, they taking something to ink, yeah. There's very few situations to where they don in return. Yeah, they'll say hey, I want this thing in return.
Speaker 1:They're going to get something in return, and that's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, um, yeah, so I think that was kind of the situation. Now that it's a fully fledged thing, it may not be exactly what it's intended to be, what it used to be, I don't know. Um, I still, I still think, I know it's not even. I think that the system can be ran way better way more efficient, and if you truly cared about the people, you wouldn't have it ran the way it is currently.
Speaker 1:You're right, yeah, do we have time for one?
Speaker 2:more. Let's see what role. This is something that I thought was interesting. What role does emotional intelligence play in a successful relationship for men?
Speaker 1:um emotional intelligence. What can you define emotional intelligence? Emotional intelligence. So Can you define emotional intelligence?
Speaker 2:Emotional intelligence. So instead of being like erratic, volatile with my emotions, if you know, I'm just letting you know. It's like I don't know if irritating is the best word, but it's making me a little frustrated when you say things over and over. Can, like you just say it this way for me that's like it's eliminating yeah, yeah, and I think it was funny.
Speaker 1:I was in aana and he was an old head and then he was like he was talking about his daughter dating and he's like, yeah, he lacked emotional intelligence and she said that to his father. He was like emotional intelligence. I need to look that up. That's some new shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, so for me emotional intelligence is like the I shouldn't tell you how I feel. You should be able to read it on me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should be able to oh as in like for the opposite person like emotionally, you supposed to be your IQ.
Speaker 1:Intelligence is supposed to be able to kind of figure out what's happening.
Speaker 2:So I feel like it might be a broad, a broad thing, yeah that's my own definition.
Speaker 1:we'll have to look up to actually what the meaning is. But emotionally, if you're supposed to kind of know what's going on, you ain't supposed to lack man. A lot of people can lack the situational awareness Like hey, I'm actually pissing her off. I should stop making fun of her yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually doing too much in this situation. I need to calm down yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's things to where it's like, hey, he lacks emotional intelligence because he kept on, you know, poking the bear when he should have known that it was actually okay, so all right, you're saying it's more like a read the room and yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Type thing. Okay, like a back and forth. Okay, I never thought of it like that.
Speaker 1:So that's just kind of how I see it. Maybe it's more romanticized than that, but that's just kind of like hey, he actually understands what's going on. He actually tries to approach me in a different way because he knew that way wasn't effective.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 1:But then they also. Now it can be also used as a way of communicating. Like hey, this is kind of where I've seen it be used. You're doing the run-of-the-mill game and it's not effective, you know, yeah, like you're still trying to say most shit knowing like, hey, girl, yeah, like like hey, hollering at the girl down the street and you, hey, girl, you know like tone down yeah, exactly that could be lacking emotional intelligence. You're actually supposed to court me, you know yeah. So, it can be kind of skewed and used in different ways.
Speaker 1:But I think, it's really more reading the room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see what you're saying. With that, I can see what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Reading her body language.
Speaker 2:Right, right, yeah, just maybe an overall thing, situationally aware, I think. Um, I actually think it's extremely important for men to be emotionally intelligent, I think more so than women, even though it's a big thing that you know, people say women are so emotional and this is now they got to get their emotions together and all that, though you know a part of that, and I've seen with many women that is true. I also feel like there can't be a leader in the house if this nigga doesn't have that. I feel like there are a lot of.
Speaker 2:There are a lot of stories that I've heard about men all from women where I realized, like guys are like crazy, like for real, and nobody knows, you know, like ain't no friend gonna tell you. Um, yeah, you know, I just did this crazy ass shit, just something like maybe domestic violence, or I just stalked her and like went to her house while she was whatever. I've heard stories about a dude trying to climb up this girl's on the second floor of a house and he climbed up and like tried to get in her kitchen window, like was it dating no, they broke up already okay, I'm saying, I'm just saying they it's not like it was somebody he saw at school.
Speaker 2:I'm saying he is not in control of himself. Yeah, that's man, it's a spider-man out like uh, but I'm just saying like they always are in leadership roles, they always are intact like they are intact with their emotions. They don't get out of control. They don't really raise their voice. They might say, say a fact or something and be stern with it, but never like I ain't seen a president be like man. Fuck that who.
Speaker 1:Trump be like that It'll be. The Zelensky meeting was like a fuck. All that no that was stern.
Speaker 2:That goes along with what I'm saying. It was stern, it was like no, you're not not gonna do that. You're not gonna. It wasn't like no man, get this man out of here like he wasn't like that.
Speaker 1:He can have that in him and but, but that's. There's a game to it too. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, he ain't gonna, he ain't gonna be that in front of the cameras in the world. You know what I mean, but yeah, so I still don't think he'll get loud but I'm just, I'm well, I'm just saying presidents in general, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, that is. I don't think that truly speaks to their stoicism.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's got to they gotta.
Speaker 1:They have to get there and do the role and credit, because it is not that they the wildest wildest, yeah, they showing their ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But to me that's more orchestrated than it gives them credit for how they are in private, because they're probably still probably just as crazy like us. Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, like JK all them, how much pussy Clinton and them Was getting on.
Speaker 1:You got flight logs on FCN Island. Them some wild boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is straight up, you gotta kill people. Yeah, you're a wild boy To be a president, I don't care what you say, but you ain't probably Coming up and like, hey, I'm gonna Jump up a tree to Melania's house, but I mean what you say, but you, you ain't. You ain't. You ain't probably coming up and like, hey, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to jump up a tree to melania's house, but I mean, I, I think you really have that's an interesting conversation where you landed uh-huh because I you know, there's times to where I'll speak to myself about myself.
Speaker 1:There's times where you're like I want to pull up. I want to pull up on her ass right now, but I know I have the perception Of how it would look.
Speaker 2:That's emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1:But it's hard not to yeah.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen the clip of the dude? He was like all I'm saying is you know, if I argue with, if we arguing, and I tell you shut up, don't you think it's wise for you to shut up? No, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that shit was so. It was on the Joe Budden podcast, bro. It was this old dude he started. Everybody was like what this man about to say. It's like If I tell you he was like an older guy, you could tell he done slapped some women around. If I tell you Nobody should be fighting, Nobody should be fighting. But Don't you think it would be wise for you to shut up? If I tell you to shut up?
Speaker 2:Yeah but men should be more emotionally intelligent. That's all I'm saying. It could go in leadership roles. It can go in relationship, which is sort of the same thing.
Speaker 1:Your community?
Speaker 2:You ain't never did no crazy shit in a relationship crash, yeah, yeah not, not, not like climbing walls, but like, yeah, no, there are definitely times where I had to look in the mirror and be like hey bro, we can't ever, like you know, say stuff like that anymore, or you know, just like growing up being different relationships, yeah no, there's a lot of things.
Speaker 2:And now I'm like, now it's down to the point of like, if I even the other time I was here and I had a, got an argument with somebody and I had to check myself, I'm like, damn, it wasn't like crazy. But now it's like I'm all the way down here Checking myself, just like, bro, we gotta be better.
Speaker 1:I mean, we got so much more to live for.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You really have yourself, but you're like. You know my mom loves me. You know I take care of my mom.
Speaker 2:You got a kid you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:There's so much more that we can do when things happen to where it's like this ain't that much going to jail for? I can't put my life on the line.
Speaker 2:There's so much at risk. So and I love me.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So it's like it's easier to move on, or I thought about that many times of when I used to stay in like atlanta.
Speaker 2:That's when I was like kind of going out like that, and it's a different vibe, a different energy out there at night and, um, just being around guys like there was this one time I was, I was at, uh, this, this bar with my ex at the time and at the time both of us were, like, you know, sort of at our heights in a way of the, the celebrity shit, the, the um social media fame.
Speaker 2:So when we would walk in we would get like certain looks and stuff like that. So this dude I'm at the bar this dude comes up to me, he's, he's bigger than me and he got like, is his friend with him? And then he say he just he taps me. He was like, hey, I put my 20 right down there, bro, you got my 20 and I'm just super random, you know, and I'm from memphis or you know from you understand just the area or whatever. So I'm like you know this, when certain energy greets you, it's like an automatic like yeah, you take on the energy that you bring you take on that energy exactly.
Speaker 2:So now I'm like, damn, like, we're in the middle of the bar. I got my girl here. I gotta protect her. This nigga pressed me over his 20 that I it wasn't my fault. And now he's like he's starting to like Raise his voice and shit. And then he's like, nah, bro, I put my $20 right here, bro, like I know that you did something. And I'm like, bro, I ain't do nothing with your $20. And it got there. So now I'm looking at this nigga in the eye, he looking at me in the eye, and then he look back at his friend. He look back at me. He was like I was just playing, bro, you right, so silly bro, I just had to fuck with you real quick. It took me a second to even laugh, bro. I'm like what the fuck? But I say that to say I thought about moments like that where you know the theory of you drink some henny and then you know you at the club and some nigga bump into you all of a sudden.
Speaker 1:Bro who the?
Speaker 2:fuck who who bumped into me and like how that could literally lead to death, bro like yeah people dying. It may not even be you, it may be a random person in a club or whatever, but like that is just crazy. So yeah that emotional intelligence, I feel like it's so.
Speaker 1:It's so far more important than self yeah, that's the worst part about being like doing the funny shit yeah, that people want to be funny with you and you don't yeah yeah, that's why I'd rather be like, but I'd rather talk about political seriousness, because that, that energy doesn't even greet. You know. Yeah, if I was to ever be on that, it was yeah, yeah, I haven't felt that that way in a lot of moments there.
Speaker 2:there are moments, though. There there was a time where I was at, uh, um, uh, what's the homecoming for? It's in atlanta. It was just like huge, just homecoming for a bunch of the HBCUs out there and it was, I mean, flooded with people, bro, like you can't. Even you got to walk like this, you got to scoot to go wherever you go in, like a whole mile radius, and people was tapping me on the shoulder. Say something funny bro, Say something, funny bro.
Speaker 1:I can't even run away.
Speaker 2:That man got his phone out, snapped it.
Speaker 1:Hey bro, this right, so silly bro. Look, I'm like, bro, get me out of here. Bro, it will happen, yeah, yeah yeah, it will happen like that. So I I get what you're saying. Yeah, that has to suck for real. Yeah, it has its moments.
Speaker 2:It has its amazing moments and I'm not. I'm not. I'm a shy person Actually. So I like to talk and all that, but it's usually just With the people closest to me, not like random people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, nah, but this was another great episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was a great episode, yeah yeah, yeah, no, we really talked.
Speaker 1:I love the questions yeah.
Speaker 2:We gotta do the chat GPT more For sure. Yeah, I mean I gotta. I love the questions. Yeah, we got to do the chat GPT more for sure. Yeah, I mean I got to think of stuff. Yeah, no, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but hey, I don't got no more to add.
Speaker 2:I'm good man.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, this is another episode of Two for the Culture. We'll be back.
Speaker 2:We'll be back. Yes, sir, all right yeah.