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Two for the Culture
The Big Joker: Social Media, Dating, and Apocalypse Readiness
Justin and Stephen explore survival strategies in a zombie apocalypse while discussing how modern technology might fail us when society collapses. They debate the practicality of electric vehicles during societal breakdown and share personal approaches to apocalypse readiness.
• Social media platforms serve different purposes with Facebook being more family-oriented and Instagram functioning as a popularity contest
• Public relationships create unique pressures as seen with Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's situation
• Dating in the digital age has evolved with apps, social media followers, and even Uber driving becoming new ways to meet potential partners
• The "big joker" metaphor represents using social status or following as leverage in dating scenarios
• Modern men approach dating differently than previous generations, with less face-to-face interaction due to fear of rejection
• Nostalgia for MTV shows like "Yo Mama" and "Room Raiders" represents a simpler time in entertainment
All right, and we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devate.
Speaker 2:I'm Stephen Ray.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, and we're back here. How you doing, man.
Speaker 2:I'm doing good man, I'm doing good, doing well. I feel like that fast that I did is kind of like continuing. I feel like I don't eat that much during the day anymore at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do it on purpose now a little bit, though. So it's more of the animated fasting then that you're doing, yeah, but like super intentional about it, like well, I think, yeah. Yeah, I said last time about not really, uh, eating during work, like you know through, know through, well, I work all day, but like I guess like an eight-hour span, eight or nine-hour span. Yeah, I do that on purpose now.
Speaker 1:Okay, for sure. And do you feel like the day's going by fast when you're working all day?
Speaker 2:now I don't know, I think I'm just starting to get used to it. Yeah, I think I'm starting to get used to it. I usually just have a timer set for like a three-hour time span and then, after the timer goes all the way down to three hours, then I'll take like a little break and then I'll hop back on and do three hours and then after this then I'll do like another three hours. It's just easier to kind of manage the time that way understood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then just sitting there, how?
Speaker 2:how are you?
Speaker 1:doing. I'm doing good. Um, true, I feel like I was just talking to my aunt not too, not too long ago, because, um, I went to church and I talked to her and then I had to work right afterwards and then she's like you're the hardest person working out here. And then I was like, when I thought about it, I was like, yeah, you know, I get done driving for Uber at three in the morning. Then you know I rest up, get up for church starts. Then you know I rest up, get up for church starts, bible study starts at 10. Then church don't get out till really about 1230. And you know I take care of my granny. So I got to get her stuff and then I was doing her bills and then going through her mail, making sure you know we went through everything, and then going to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, but yeah, but nonetheless, and that was three day man, you know, but my girl could mmm yeah, so it was good beef tips, mashed potatoes and broccoli okay yeah, absolutely so and then we chilled because there's a new. Yeah, it be feeling good sometimes. Come on, get a good meal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 1:And then we chilled Because there's a new season of Last of Us. Have you watched Last of Us?
Speaker 2:Last of Us. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:Last of Us. It's like an apocalypse show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, self-explanatory yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's a zombie apocalypse show. It's based off of the game Last of Us. Yeah. Yeah, so pretty much the it's like fungus, so it's a fun. Guy takes over the, the body and then it spreads, and you know, of course, like a zombie. So if you get bit then you can be taken over. But this one girl was I'm kind of somewhere up a part of the season for you, but she finds out that she was her mom got bit while she was giving birth. So she's, uh, immune to the oh the fungus taking over her body.
Speaker 1:So she still can get torn apart. But if she gets bit, nothing it won't affect her.
Speaker 1:So now she what people feel like she's the key to survival yeah, yeah yeah, and so you know he it's the kind of journey with him and this, uh, the main, other main character, uh, older man, because she's like 14. Jack, kind of journeying around. Of course, what they say, of course it's not always worrying about the zombie, but you got to worry about the people as well. I was talking to my girl. I was like I'm taking that because I got to test the next position. I was like I'm taking the next position. She was like duh, of course you're going to have better chances if you have a gas car yeah, I thought about that, yeah yeah, like very, very true, um so.
Speaker 1:So that's funny. They even said that, because elon musk uh, the cyber truck is is like people feel like it's a pocket, lift a car, but really it's still charging you know that's gonna be one of the first ones to go yeah, yeah, yeah, it's bulletproof, so you, you could be good for a certain extent yeah, yeah yeah, but no, you can't really go no farther than it's over 400 miles. And if everything, shut down the grid, shut down your screw it's over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I thought about that with cars. I was like, damn, you know, I would love to have, and usually for some reason they be, they be few, the, the electric vehicles them house be looking so futuristic. Yeah, like I was looking up audis yesterday and like one of the newest electric out. That shit looked like it's from a movie like 20 years from now and it looks so cool, but also like bruh if the shit go down. What the fuck is this for? There's no reason to have this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I guess you know if fuel pumps don't work and things like that. But there's so many, you can cycle fuel from other vehicles.
Speaker 2:You can really go.
Speaker 1:I guess it depends on how you look at things. I ain't no electrician or no engineer that can figure that out, but um a bicycles bicycles yeah, bikes and gas cars yeah, that's where it's at yeah, yeah, so uh, it got me that we're talking about apocalypse, and how do you think you'll fare in apocalypse? How do you think? Your affair in Apocalypse.
Speaker 2:How do I think what?
Speaker 1:Your affair like make it, would you feel like you'll do well?
Speaker 2:I'll do. I need to learn some shit.
Speaker 1:That race so silly ain't gonna get you far.
Speaker 2:That race, so silly, ain't gonna get me there. Matter of fact, that shit gonna fuck me up even more.
Speaker 1:I can edit your videos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna me up even more. I can edit your videos. Yeah, that's gonna me up even more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gonna ride me off the strength just being so silly yeah, yeah, yeah I got you, but uh, no, there, there's this book that I I'm actually just because you said that like I'm gonna get this book this week but there's this book. It's like a survival book and it shows you like everything like how to make water, how to recycle stuff, how to uh, uh, yeah, like out of air damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like very futuristic yeah, the world ends.
Speaker 2:There's a book for it. So, uh yeah, how to cook stuff, how to like, just just literally a survival guide, a food network cookbook, everything shut down well. I know how to make some lasagna, no, but um, that whole fat you know what I mean. Like I'm talking about that book.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be, it's gonna be how to make water, how to make meals and survive it's got everything in there.
Speaker 2:I did one thing. I don't know why I haven't gotten it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would help so you don't really need to learn how to survive when everything right, right, what you mean?
Speaker 2:like when everything good, yeah, when everything good, I ain't even thinking about it. But when amazon shut down and the world shut down, I'm gonna be. I don't want to say I'm gonna be fucked, but let's just say. Let's just say pre-book versus post-book, that would be two different outcomes for me.
Speaker 2:I feel like. So, since we're in pre-book right now, I don't know how long, I don't know. Man, I got a survival mindset, though you know I'm good in terms of not giving up and trying to figure out how to do shit and ration and all that type of shit. I'm good on that aspect.
Speaker 1:But Do you think you could Kill a zombie easily?
Speaker 2:Kill a zombie I ain't never seen one.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying, actually I have.
Speaker 2:Niggas on meth.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the closest you gonna get. Them motherfuckers are strong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know from experience.
Speaker 2:I didn't get to fight him off but, like you know, got robbed by one and he wasn't scared of anything, Nothing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:He wasn't scared of nothing.
Speaker 1:Literally. That is actually crazy.
Speaker 2:I forgot about that, yeah nah, he wasn't scared of shit. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I would assume a zombie actually crazy, you know, I forgot about that. Yeah, nah, he wasn't scared of shit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I would assume a zombie is something like that yeah yeah, that's pretty hard to be, you know he's a zombie, you know, because it's different, because people offer drugs it's a little bit different. You don't want to kill them because you know they'll come back to life fairly regular. But if every, if the world you know goes to hell and you know that zombies exist, I feel like it'll be kind of easy to kill, cause some easy to kill, like not like easier to kill a zombie than a nigga on meth.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying like. I'm saying like rationalizing your mind I'm killing the man, that's not. I'm not saying like the difficulty of stabbing him to death, I'm saying like rationalizing your mind. Oh. Hey I difficulty of stabbing him to death I'm saying like ratcheting on your mind oh hey, I, I can, I need to drop him.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, so yeah, just not just just just second nature to be like all right, like an ant like an ant, yeah, all right exactly. Get this man out the backyard yeah I could see that. Yeah, I'm not caring about any of them. What if one of them was your family member?
Speaker 1:you getting dropped two times as fast I know where to hit you.
Speaker 2:I know your weak spots and everything I know. You got a bad leg.
Speaker 1:I mean I feel bad cause, like damn. What if the cure came pretty quickly? You know what I mean as soon as you drop the ass that's already self-defense and it depends, because there's the thing about the uh last of us versus like walking dead. The last of us, they, they, I, I feel like faster than they was as humans, uh-huh yeah yeah, say they move for real oh yeah, yeah yeah, so you ain't just easily like just punch one or stab one in the head and they keep on moving.
Speaker 1:nah, bruh, because you know, like the walking dead I'm sure you've seen the walking dead they like you know you can stab them real quick and it's it's not until they all just really kind of huddle around you to where you can't do nothing about it. But then that one can move around and get you yeah.
Speaker 2:I ain't trying to see that?
Speaker 1:Of course not. No, that's man, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 2:I wonder if there is something there's got to be something that can make humans do that, Because niggas, when people get rabies they be like different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when humans do it.
Speaker 2:I only saw it in a movie, yeah.
Speaker 1:I say humans, when animals yeah, they be like they're more aggressive. Uh-huh. Yeah, and also they start, they twitch and like have you seen a raccoon on rabies from the Raccoon on rabies no. Yeah, on YouTube, like they'll start glitching and seizing up and be weird, very weird, there was actually a raccoon at our church.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I don't know. I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1:Alright he was sizing people up at the altar. So, nah, no, it was in the attic. Uh, so my mentor there was, um, because one the church would either like you have the heat on but it wouldn't get hot you know, yeah, it was in or vice versa. And then at first it was like, all right, the church is just not, it's older, it's not energy efficient. And then you know they come up there because that's the work we do, what my mentor does. What is so funny?
Speaker 2:because you got to lead into a story. Well, you starting the story. I'm saying so that that that the ac was like tripping yeah and then y'all finna, go up there and find this crazy ass cracker.
Speaker 1:I didn't go up anywhere, yeah, go ahead, so I'm just telling the story as he's telling it to me. And then so. But as I know, because I go to the church and we're obviously not receiving hate, but I'm thinking it's just older weather and stuff I know we did work up there before but I was like it shouldn't be like this. We did better things. But come to find out there is like big gaping holes open, like the, the uh duck.
Speaker 1:You know, a big old duck line was split open and so there's like dang you know, like just what's going on, just not thinking anything of it, like we need to replace these or, you know, seal them up as best as we can and then so they come out. You know, one of the workers is like, hey, there's something up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you see these peering eyes looking at him. Yeah yeah, yeah. So they're like oh shoot, that's a raccoon. So the raccoon in the winter was ripping up the ducks because that's what's heat was coming out, so it could feel better. Yeah, yeah. But then so they kind of kind of knocked on the ceiling and kind of let it out a certain path. Long story short, and that thing was big as hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why it let out? They climbed down the ladder uh and then they sealed it back up the patch.
Speaker 1:I wonder what it was eating I think no, it was coming to and from so oh, he was living in the church I mean shoot. It was like you know, sleeping here by night and going out by day yeah, yeah and then you know we got trash stuff. It could be munching on the trash.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, sunday is the best day, yeah yeah, yeah, you got soul food Sunday. Yeah, soul food Sunday man.
Speaker 1:So he was very much living and chilling for real.
Speaker 2:Shit, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but the zombie apocalypse? You know, I think it's you know better to huddle up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Five people, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're definitely going to. You cannot be by yourself. Yeah, yeah, no, fucking zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1:Last podcast we talked about it and it was like I'm going to get my girl. I'm like bruh, this is zombie apocalypse. You going all the way to murfreesboro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, to get her to come back.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Like, because that's where he was living at the time who um tape oh, uh-huh yeah, yeah, he was like I'm going to get my girl and like, yeah oh, oh yeah, I think that's a bad idea. I'm just saying. It's like you, gotta, you're going through a zombie apocalypse just to get her. You better hope she come to you you're right. Oh my god and then, and then, y'all fend for yourselves and it's just you the whole way there yeah, yeah, I think he Will Smith.
Speaker 2:Michael B Jordan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I swear, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be lit. Are they supposed to come out with it? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:I Am Legend 2.
Speaker 1:That would be hard.
Speaker 2:Now they coming out with. They accepted Will Smith back in Hollywood with Open Arms, Open Arms. He got. Men in. Black coming out.
Speaker 1:He finna shoot that. I didn't really care for the. I tried to watch the last one.
Speaker 2:I'm not the big, I don't even remember it yeah me neither. Yeah, last one I remember was the one with the woman, the octopus woman I don't even remember that oh well, yeah, and he had some girl, rose, rose, rosaria, oh, god rosie something dawson something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was fine yeah, she was definitely fine, yeah, but uh, because he, I remember he was on, uh, will smith was on drink champs he was like yeah, I watched like 20 minutes of it okay, he said that. You know a lot of people didn't want to do features with him. I didn't know that yeah, yeah, exactly who I don't know. I don't. He didn't name the people.
Speaker 2:They didn't want it because of what they couldn't have been slapping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what he was saying. Most rappers would love to jump on that he said artists. He didn't say rappers. Okay, yeah, yeah, and maybe I said rappers, but he said artists, so depending on who that was. Also, it was funny he he was telling the story about how, um, he had got off the internet for five or six months and how people was really going in on him and he did.
Speaker 1:He only knew a couple people. That kind of went in on him and then he was telling the story about how his homeboy charlie mack was. Uh, he was about to shake up with one dude like hey, what's going on and then he's like trying to uh-uh. He's like that's so. So, nah, yeah, yeah, because he was one of the ones who was going in on him oh so his friend was like no, don't don't shake up with him, uh, because he was talking about you, yeah, exactly oh, damn, yeah, damn yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 1:so I'm saying open arms that you know ain't that fully open, it ain't wide open, but it's open.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I guess what I meant is just Hollywood money-wise, not necessarily individuals he used to interact with.
Speaker 1:I guess I got you, yeah, but he's going to have opportunities. I mean, he just slapped a man on TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it? Was the craziest thing ever, I mean absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying when it all boils down to it, it's not the most unreprehensible thing you could have ever done in your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I don't even feel a way for it. I don't even think about it when I look at his videos and stuff, even when that popped up, I don't even think about it.
Speaker 1:I do a little bit really yeah, yeah, how does he feel? Because, that is very embarrassing though it's.
Speaker 2:It seems like he is embarrassed that people got to see that side of him, not embarrassed for slapping him yeah, yeah yeah, I feel like he meant that shit yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he definitely meant that shit.
Speaker 2:Also there was something a long time ago where somebody it was either a skit or this actually happened. It was the exact same thing. Or somebody walking on the, or it was in a movie or something. Somebody walking on stage at like some grand you know thing where they get awards and all this, and like somebody got slapped, and it was damn near like the exact same thing. So a part of me feels like in my little conspiracy, part of my mind feels like damn, I wonder if, like that shit was just like a play for the people. You know, sometimes I think about that.
Speaker 1:But I don't know. Yeah, I doubt it. Yeah, but I mean, if you're, but then again, how do I really know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was too perfect too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because nobody talks about the August Housina stuff too. So I guess, which means Like at first he was getting a lot of heat for the August Housina Jada Pickett Smith stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean a lot of heat for the august house even jada pickett smith stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, he, he got heat for anything dealing with jada, yeah, but now it's all focused on him and that, unless jada pinky at this point, don't you think, or no?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think people are tired of talking about jada for real I think, I think it's like the same story for real.
Speaker 2:It's like every time. It's usually like the same story for it. It's like every time it's usually she does something that the masses don't necessarily agree with. And then it's the second part to that, which is you kind of like look over to the side at will and like what does he think about this? And like that has been a cycle for so many years. I feel like it's kind of like a kanye thing where, like when kanye do something crazy, then you're just like all right, bro, that's kanye. I feel like that's kind of how people are treating this whole thing, do you? I wonder what happened with red table talk though.
Speaker 1:Oh, it got discontinued because facebook stopped doing their content stuff oh, oh.
Speaker 2:So they was like oh ain't no money in this bit, and they pull it out, yeah, yeah like we don't really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not as profitable as we would like, but they tried to get in the content game a little heavy they got in there I mean, I mean in in their own way, like um the own tv content or show content. So they tried it. It wasn't really for them. And they did that with different things, like have you ever heard of Poke by Facebook? No. Exactly, that was their version of Snapchat. No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they tried to I remember you could poke people 's what I thought?
Speaker 1:no no, no, no, it was um. It was their version of snapchat no, I didn't know that yeah, yeah and um. So they tried that. That failed. They really thought they was going to bring snapchat to the ground as like they did. Reels, or was that? Uh, not reels? Thread Vine, I'm saying it.
Speaker 2:Oh, they killed.
Speaker 1:Vine.
Speaker 2:Oh, instagram, yeah, and they had by Instagram. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Vine did get killed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah. And then they tried to do that with Twitter, with threads. Uh-huh, because you created a thread account. Is it popping? I don't be on threads I don't know why.
Speaker 2:I, I don't know, I, I don't understand. I understand that realm like I was in that way of thinking when I was in college for maybe like a year or two. I don't understand people, even on facebook, if you take away the photos and memes and all this stuff and then you're just like refreshing your feed and people are just saying things.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean that's what my space was about really for real, don't you think, because it was all in the big and um we were in the three.
Speaker 2:I thought we just went to people's pages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they had to be doing something. They had pictures in the post, they had your top favorites.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you message each other.
Speaker 2:That ain't the same thing. I'm saying, that's like, that's like an individual Preference.
Speaker 1:Okay, what am I missing there?
Speaker 2:As in. Like you go to a certain page.
Speaker 1:No, I agree with MySpace, you're right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I meant you go to your news feed and it's nothing but my day's going well, man. Fuck my parents. Hey, trump is crazy. When it's just words. I don't understand how people get caught up in it and like, are on that all day. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1:I mean words, mean something though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just I don't see how these things are still this big. My, my mind doesn't like like. I made a thread account and it was cool, but I I got bored with it very quickly because it was Twitter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just not a Twitter guy. I guess that's all it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean, but Twitter, facebook is more than just words. They have videos attached to it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know man, I don't know, I guess I'm just not hip to it. It, I don't know man, I don't know, I, I guess I'm just not like hip to it. It doesn't like.
Speaker 1:it doesn't make me stay on there yeah, I mean, I don't have, I'm not on facebook like that, I'm really not on really all social media like that for real, so um. So, at the end of the point, I definitely get what you're saying, but I can see the attachment of facebook. I mean the allure, I mean this content. People post videos on facebook they also post what they're doing. They post pictures that it's just multi-platform things that you can look on facebook yeah, it is, it is I.
Speaker 2:I will say that it is, and maybe it's just not my thing, I don't know when. It's mostly because instagram is in facebook kind of sort of now. It's like the opposite. It's like it's not mostly words or quotes, it's mostly videos and photos, yeah, so I think I I just naturally gravitate more toward that I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, yeah, because I mean also also, that's the, the scope that you come from yeah I'm saying, even when I was in it, like in college with twitter and all that I used to, I used to like yeah actually I used to really be on there and then it just faded out yeah, yeah, and I'm just saying like, but journalists they Twitter.
Speaker 1:They're probably less likely on Instagram because they're more of writers. Bloggers, I'm sure are on Twitter more. So, I'm just saying the scope of where you come from, where you do video and photography well that's just going to be where you land in it. Journalists are going to land on Twitter. You know I don't. Facebook is just you know it's.
Speaker 1:Facebook is just you know it's just the og so everybody's on it and that's just a way you keep up with family and things along the line, because your granny probably on it you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah you can message family quickly yeah, it's a lot, yeah, exactly but then it's messy, so you enjoy the messiness of it because people are dogging their family out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I definitely associate Facebook with more of a a hood way of life. Um, yeah, yeah, it's definitely more family-oriented. Yeah, I think Instagram is more like flashy. Yeah. Like popularity contests. Yeah, exactly, Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:And you can really kind of be it and you know your Facebook profile is very much your profile.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you're Justin Smith're, you're justin smith, or excuse? Me right, right yeah and so yeah, yeah, you could be whatever your username.
Speaker 2:Your username ain't your name that is facts, that is fact yeah, so you're this whole different person for real that is not whole different, but yeah, that's a part of yourself, that's actually you? Yeah, exactly, that's a fact. Actually I've done that before, where I'll post something. Maybe I did this like years ago, but I'll post something and then let's say like a cute girl would like respond or some shit, but she ain't got no pictures and I got to check to see if she real, so I would just type her name in Facebook.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And see what pops up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 fact check. Yeah, exactly, it's fact checking exactly.
Speaker 1:So that's how I know if I meet you on the street. And then you add me as a friend on facebook, I was like, all right, I got like one of the most common names in america, so you was really searching for me. Oh god, oh god, I have done that before people.
Speaker 2:I guess people do do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it helps out a lot. They got like the area code in their bio oh they got the area code like something, something 615 like uh, nashville, all right, nashville, keisha johnson, there she is two kids? Okay, yep, nobody. That shit that got um. It's like it could show you who's following, who you're following or who you followed the latest. Uh, you know what I'm saying yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1:So how does it? Is it an app that tracks that, or it's?
Speaker 2:no, it's literally just on there so anytime you follow somebody, nigga bro, it's like you can't even be curious for real like if you're no you can be curious, but I'm saying that I've learned that from a woman like would look at my profile and she's like I see who you following.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, okay how.
Speaker 2:And then one day I realized how they do it and they literally just like look at your following and after the people that um you mutually follow you mutually follow. It's literally the last people that you followed, so they could track that shit oh, okay yeah, that's like bruh well, it sounds like you shouldn't be following nobody, no more. That's what I be feeling like sometimes, like now. It's like I'm so hesitant.
Speaker 1:Now you gotta unfollow them and then follow the person you want. Then follow the other person right back.
Speaker 2:What you mean.
Speaker 1:So say it's me on Instagram. You can unfollow me, then follow the person. That's too targeted.
Speaker 2:I don't know who's gonna look or who I would talk to that, you know. But I've I've realized that and I've seen that and I'm like bro, that's a whole you, you telling yeah, like you snitching for real, like who do you be following to where they be feeling that way?
Speaker 2:who I let's say, like if I'm talking to a person yeah and then let's say let's say that I was very close to a person or just just talking to them all the time, and then now I don't talk to them all the time. And then let's say they wanted to check up on me. And then they go to my page and they see oh, this niggas following this girl, this girl, but I mean, I don't be following that many women like like let me follow, follow, follow.
Speaker 2:I don't do that, but there was a time where if I did follow somebody, they would know, exactly like one x knew, who the new girl was oh, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I'm here now yeah, it's like they bro they stalking the girl you just recently followed because they think that's who you're talking to it's easy money, because then it's like it ain't nobody after her.
Speaker 2:Oh, he definitely talking to her. Yeah, like, oh my god, come on, man, you telling yeah, so.
Speaker 1:so on that relationship because it was like a jada pickett thing question that I kind of did have Like so when you was in a public relationship, could you do you feel like you would be Will Smith in a way, to where you was stuck in the actions that she done because she couldn't be somewhat controlled? You know what I mean? I?
Speaker 1:think hmm, and so I'll kind of further explain. So Will Smith really couldn't tell Jada Pickett anything because she was going to say, regardless whatever she had, or whether it was to his detriment or not. Do you think there? You know, there was an aspect to what you had to. Your relationship was like. You know, hopefully she don't go get too wild because, you know, when I get home it's not like she me explaining it, it is going to make it much better, I think nowadays.
Speaker 2:No, I think at one point I was creeping on that. I was creeping on like I don't know how far that would be, but at the same time, like they're like what, 50 something maybe yeah, so this is 20 something years probably of it being a certain way and it kept getting bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger till it got to here.
Speaker 2:so I feel like nowadays, nah, I, I wouldn't be in a relationship where it could get. It could get so far that I'm on your show and I'm like y'all was in a relationship. No, we was like in an entanglement. I'm walking off the show, I'm cutting this bitch off. Like I said before, I could see how I was allowing certain things in different relationships that I probably I could see how something can start small and keep getting bigger and bigger, bigger, bigger for years and years and years. And then now you like kind of stuck in this thing Cause you told yourself you was committed and now now the commitment is bigger than how you feel.
Speaker 2:Um, I can kind of see how that could possibly play out again. I'm only like 30 something so but just um, hypothetically speaking, I can kind of see how that would be, but nowadays, like nah man, like certain things, it's just not worth it, bro, like that sucks like I don't know what he's dealing with, I don't know what their relationship is, but, um, it just seems like it is a very stressful situation as a man and men go through shit on their own.
Speaker 2:Like you got to work all the fucking time, you got to do this, this, that to make sure your family's together, and, like you, you already got your own stretches and shit, the, the last, the, the. The main thing that you want is to come home to a wife that's just like full of peace and like will just make you feel like the world ain't I don't know the, the she balances out the world that you have to deal with outside of the home. That's what I, that's what I would want you know. So, like, if it's not that, and I gotta come home and then like I to deal with outside of the home, that's what I would want. So, if it's not that, and I got to come home and then I got to deal with shit, and then I got to deal with shit in the public on top of everything, you're putting that stress on me.
Speaker 2:I would assume I can only assume both of them was on some shit, but it seemed like her shit was making him stressed out publicly right I don't know what he was doing behind the scenes if he was making her ass stressed out I'm sure that's on him, but uh, that's, that's just. That's just all we see right and so to that.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like you can go back into a relationship and uh, be in a public relationship again where you're kind of somewhat on equal playing field as popularity goes uh?
Speaker 2:it's not. It isn't something that I'm like wanting right now. I guess it's like, if it happens, it happens. But I would much rather be with somebody that, like, I could keep a low profile with and you know stuff like that, because, um, the, the, the. I think the quote is it's like if you date publicly, you break up publicly yeah and like that shit.
Speaker 1:I don't like that shit at all so do you feel like you had to keep it go deeper, like, regardless of the situation, you had to keep the relationship going because it will be a public breakup?
Speaker 2:Are you talking about my past relationship? Yeah, did I feel like that? No, I never thought about other people. No, I never thought about other people. I knew that was always going to be a thing, like even to this day. I'm not a guy who wants to be looked at like while I'm outside and it's cool if somebody like walks up to me. It's like a respectful thing. But also, still, even if somebody does that the rest of the time I'm in the store, I know that this nigga's looking at me. Yeah, you know Like.
Speaker 2:I don't like thinking about stuff like that, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:So you know, like I don't like thinking about stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So you know, yeah, so I don't normally think about other people, or I didn't think about other people, but in the end I always knew what I signed up for, which is? It's just, it's kind of like a gift and a curse thing. It's like you can get a whole bunch of praise. It's kind of like a gift and a curse thing. It's like you can get a whole bunch of praise. But shit, if I have a bad argument with my girl and it just so happens to be somewhere and somebody across the street recognizes it's me or her, and then we record it and now we on Shade Room and now you know. So it's kind of like I know that I signed up for this, so it's kind of like accepting whatever happens, which is kind of what happened. Like I had a. A pay is still hacked, I don't even know how to get this back, but they be posting, um, I don't know if they still do now, but like they did for like a year and a half straight I don't know if they still do now, but like they did for like a year and a half straight kept posting me and my ex, like on the page over and over, even the engagement photos and like all that stuff, like over and over and over and over. So like there were times where I would speak to somebody new and then it'll be like a week later. It'll be like a week later. First of all, these girls are definitely I don't know they, they be letting stuff slide. Because they be letting stuff slide at least a little bit. If you got a little bit of clout or something, because I would, I would.
Speaker 2:I remember there was a time where I would speak to somebody and then you know we'll have a conversation or whatever, and then, like after a week pass, like after a week passed, they'll say, hey, you know, I didn't really want to ask, but like, are you single? I'm like what? I'm like we've been talking for a week. And then she's like, oh yeah, no, I mean, it's cool, I was just wondering because, like I saw you and your fiance being posted on that, I'm like hold up. First of all you thought that I was still with her, you were still talking to me, and then you know, but it's all that shit comes with it. So I didn't do that for people, but it is, it is a thing. So that's something that I always think about.
Speaker 2:I'm like damn like, if you get with somebody and it's in the public eye, you like kind of announce it y'all this is my girl now and then if both y'all got some clout or whatever, the first initial thing is, oh my god, they're so cute together. Oh, it's just inevitable with whoever you with, no, they're so cute together. They, oh, they're so happy and oh, they're so happy. And then that bruise. But it's also developing something that kind of lasts after a breakup and I don't know. It could be annoying, it could be annoying.
Speaker 1:Understood Do you feel like that the content that you put out and how great it is that you can't live up to that man. To what To the content that you are if that makes sense Like Will Smith, how he had to portray and be somebody who he wasn't ultimately inside. You know what I? Mean wasn't ultimately inside. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Um then you have to like, oh, now that you're with somebody.
Speaker 1:They see your flaws versus. They think of this whole vision of who you are in their head um, I can kind of tell what I if.
Speaker 2:If I were to talk to somebody on a romantic level, it would usually be I would only allow a certain type of person to be like, actually intimate with, and like romantic and actually with if I know for a fact steven can be vulnerable with them.
Speaker 2:So I don't even allow like I might I don't know like have conversations or some shit like that with certain people. But like some people you could just tell it's like they want. They want the guy with 600 or a million followers or whatever. They want that dude and that with the glitz and glamour of what it looks like, I guess, or whatever they have in their head really, because I'm just hopping in movies, but them they see a successful guy and all that. If they make that shit up in their head, you could tell who wants that person versus like oh no, he's like a really cool guy. I would actually love to talk to him. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I don't really allow those type of people to be very close to me.
Speaker 1:I get it of people to be like very close to me, I get okay. So do you find it hard not using the clout influence you have through social media to your advantage? We're meeting somebody on public that you do like that may not know who you are, because it is at the end of the day, it is a tool that you have it's a little super flex yeah, like you know, I was like bruh it's like you can either, you know, use a hammer to bang down a door or you use one of them, uh, those battering rams.
Speaker 1:You know, it's like all right, bro, like I have a battering ram and I'm choosing very much not to use it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I don't like the first of all. I don't go out much so I don't write. I don't like date around and all that for real, um, uh, but I don't usually do that at first. I don't usually do that at first Like I know. I know that's like, that's like the secret, like the secret move I got, or the, the, the, pokemon, that's the big joker, the big joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I got the big joker and, like you know, you just meeting somebody and if I think she's cute, or she thinks I'm cute, or whatever.
Speaker 2:And then we're talking and dah dah, dah. You know, I know as soon as like what's your Instagram? It's going to change the environment. You know it's not going to be like I wonder. I wonder what he's about. It's going to immediately be like oh, he's this, you know, and I I kind of don't. I love it, don't get me wrong. I definitely love having a joker there, but I I just play. I like playing it.
Speaker 1:Well, I'd rather like show that after you realize like I'm a cool guy okay, so, um, so the other thing is what they don't ask about your instagram and there's, there's somebody you like, you're, you're in a party, in like a social gathering I don't even want to use the word party, a social gathering and there's a, uh, a cute girl that you see yeah but guys also like her, like her as well, so they're fighting for that attention and then you're like all right, this is the thing that sets me apart from everybody else the big joker yeah, yeah, yeah but she's, she's very much feeling, you know she's.
Speaker 1:You can't tell which way the wind go goes. You know she may be feeling one guy, you don't know oh yeah, yeah. So are you willing to use that big joker? And I was like, hey, follow me on instagram, what's your name? Uh, nah, okay, no, I think it's a little cap with that.
Speaker 2:No, I wouldn't do that okay yeah, because because now I'm like to me, now I'm desperate yeah, but it's somebody you really like and you know I don't I don't want no woman like that, though I you maybe I used to, but like I don't, I like women who like me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they may like you, but you got to very much work for that.
Speaker 2:If I got to like work for it like that, then I'm not throwing out my Instagram like that.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, so you're comfortable with losing something? Yeah yeah, yeah no.
Speaker 2:I'm comfortable with losing because it's like I just learned now that the girls who like you it's just a way better outcome. So like, if I'm at a event, a social event, and you take Instagrams and all that away, you're still going to be treated way better. That girl that you're talking about, I'm going to have to chase her, even after, after the effects of the, the, the page and all that goes down, I'm still gonna have to chase her a little bit just because, like she didn't see me and was like I like him do you like chasing or no?
Speaker 2:I like, I like. It's like a two-part answer One, no, and two, if I know for a fact that you like me, like a lot, I would like to show you effort of showing you that I like you. So if it's a situation of I don't know if you like me the same and I gotta chase you to to try to get you to see that, I don't like that. I used to do that okay, yeah, um, yeah, I'm like I said, I'm way now. I like people who like me, but it's life bro.
Speaker 1:Way better life that way Okay, but I think and I'm asking, the chase and initiative are two separate things. Like initiative, is you asking her out on a date? Yes my initiative is you asking her out on a date? Yes, chasing is like she really ain't feeling me and I'm kind of, you know, really convincing her. I'm trying to convince her to like me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah no, I don't know not that so like that could be one in the same you know of you, um, asking a girl on a date man it's like a venn diagram.
Speaker 1:Like they meet up and there's like you know what a venn diagram is, where you have the two circles and two circles and both the similarities are in, you know, in a intertwined in that one circle. But yeah, so it's like a venn diagram, I'm sure a chasing initiative, um how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:like if you were at a party and well, I don't got no big joker you got a Tesla.
Speaker 1:I've never alright.
Speaker 2:Well, let's say, everybody outside got this. This is three niggas with bikes and is one dude with a Honda and is you with the Tesla. And she says, as soon as you walk in, you got a girlfriend.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, but we can still play it as all right so and then, as soon as you walk in, you see a girl you like damn, like she's really cute, and the first thing she says is oh my god, I just love a nigga with a tesla I swear to god, I just love a nigga with a Tesla. Well, excuse me, it's the same setting and you don't know who she's feeling. You don't know anything. What would you do?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So look at my Tesla app and see how much it's charging right now. But you know what's funny, I didn't know. So the Tesla I got it because it qualified for Uber Black and I want an electric vehicle that qualified for Uber Black because I didn't have to worry about the maintenance thing, maintenance attached to it, because it doesn't measure transmission. So I was like, let me lease one and see how I like it. Oh, that's dope, yeah, yeah, because I don't have to worry about the maintenance part, the maintenance of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, all I got is tire rotations and stuff that has to do with the tires. So that was the reasoning behind it. I didn't look at it all as cool because it's not like a Mercedes or like a. That's not the mind I had to it until I started to use it for Uber and I realized, oh, people find this as a luxurious vehicle and you know, now they're curious, wanting to know. Now I feel like it's easier as an Uber driver which I did, and I can't really even say that because the Expedition was giving me just as much, you know. But I feel like people was falling in love with the Tesla and it felt like people was falling in love with the tesla and was, and it felt like it was somewhat easier. Um, but yeah, so I didn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't realize that until really later on but yeah I mean, I I'm very much a long game person anyway, so like when I was single, I would be at, like I told you about the place, the golden door yeah yeah, and they'll be talking to the bartenders and being cool with them and just chatted up and eventually, you know, forming a cool relationship and building on top of that mm-hmm yeah, so it'll be places like that I'm using as example, like to, where people frequent the place all the time to where we can have a conversation, build a friendship and then go out.
Speaker 1:I don't have.
Speaker 1:Um, I feel like uber was very good at making quick dates because, you know you're in a car, you kind of forced to talk to somebody. They're interested in you very much off the bat. You can go, get drinks real quick and go, you know, hang out with other people. Yeah so, and so it was. I always had that. I mean, I've been doing it for eight or nine years, so my dating psychology is different. So I was like I got uber that I can hang. I'm sure it's always going to come, because they always do, and then I can still build a relationship with the people at the places I frequent.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, so my dating aspect is completely different than the average person. Like I had tried the dating apps, it did work for me in some aspects, but I never the people that I really entertained. I knew that's not who I wanted to marry. Yeah. And kind of with Uber for the most part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel that with the dating apps, I had got off of there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yours is kind of way different than what mine was. I could you know. What. Yeah, yeah, dating apps yeah for you.
Speaker 2:I mean, even if, like it just felt like it felt like the people on the dating apps were just like kind of desperate and I could say the same thing for me at that time I was lonely, at that time I wasn't going outside, I wasn't whatever.
Speaker 2:And I was like bro, let me for me. At that time I was lonely, at that time I wasn't going outside, I wasn't whatever, and I was like, bro, let me just like, hop on here, it's easier. And and I realized that, like I was just running into certain people where, even if we matched or whatever and we were talking, it was cool, not 10 times out of 10. Now, well, I'm gonna say nine times out of 10, because I'm pretty sure there's lovely people on these apps, but, um, nine times out of 10, it'll be somebody that I'm just like.
Speaker 1:I know I ain't finna hang out with this person after like week three yeah, and also that's the thing about uh uber that that it works to a lot of people, including myself at one point in time. Advantage is that the dating apps it's a game. Uber, that stuff cuts right through the fluff.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like y'all hanging out, y'all getting to know each other. Immediately hanging out, you get the vibe very quick, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I mean. Of course people can be fooled and also vice versa on apps, other immediately hanging out. You get the vibe very quick. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, like I mean of course people can be fooled, and also vice versa on apps. But it's like, all right, I, I understand about this. Is somebody I want to hang out with because I never.
Speaker 1:I like my job with uber, so I was never going to be, and they're really the initiator I've maybe in one time once or twice literally, and it was, you know, after having a conversation that I, you know, I tried to, yeah, but out of nine years, but every time was in the street, cuz I never want to lose my position. They'll report my you know he's flirting with me yeah, or make it uncomfortable or back I'm, I'm getting. I'm very much a rated system, so yeah, you can put notes or like feedback. You know all those things.
Speaker 2:So that's what happened to me. Yeah, what well? Not, not, not on the dating side. But I do remember a couple times where I would like it would happen, like two, let's say, like in an hour long ride I would accidentally uh put, put my foot on the the brake, like while on the highway. Not, and it was nothing crazy, it was just like a small ass jerk, not even wanting to make you do that but it was just like smart, and this is during traffic so not like we hitting 70 and it does that, yeah, and then I would just apologize just because, like oh, sorry about that.
Speaker 2:And then she's like oh no, it's fine, I drop her off and I got like three notes on my shit just like he stopped and started and while he was driving. It was very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:See, I don't I mean I'm sure I mean one. There's one for sure that, like she was very much a Karen. Yeah. Yeah, so, but that was with Lyft, and if I report you bad, if I report you bad, you report me bad, it cancels out. So that rating doesn't go attached to it, so she was very much a Karen and I drove off on her ass.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, you said that yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I'm talking about her.
Speaker 2:I think you did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I very much drove off on her ass. But yeah. So I knew I was getting a bad rating but I was going to rate her bad but back. But then she reported he was drunk. Like yeah, I should have did that then yeah, yeah, I was like damn I should just canceled it. But yeah, I did, I did. She was two rides. Yeah, I did talk about it, but yeah, it was two. It was uh, two stops and she was like brad being a straight b, but nonetheless yeah yeah, so that's the thing.
Speaker 1:That's's kind of like. Uber is kind of like a cheat code for things like that. It's like speed dating Very much speeding, and it's speed dating because they were the hours in the location. They've already vetted me through the Uber app, like they've seen. They see the vehicle I'm picking them up and they see my profile picture. They already have an idea formulated in the head before I even pick them up uh-huh yeah, and that's very much so because they be with it immediately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. At first it was like it's about. Sometimes it can be about like you're actually a cool dude, but most of the time they already have it in their hand. They're like oh, you're so handsome, blah, blah, and yeah, yeah, yeah, they already, they already looked you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they already swiped left, yeah right yeah, like like before there before.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna go go into details, but I've gotten actual while riding to pick her up a phone call from her.
Speaker 2:Oh, like, okay, Like, hey, what's your sign?
Speaker 1:Quicker than that? Okay, yeah, very much quicker than that. That was never a question. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, my God yeah yeah, yeah. So that's how. That's how the cutting through the fluff it could be that's crazy.
Speaker 2:No, dating is. Dating is a thing I couldn't imagine. I think speed dating would be kind of cool. I would like to do that one day, but in the right setting.
Speaker 1:I think hosting it will be great hosting iting it. Yeah, yeah. That's why I wanted to get OJ to do it. Host it.
Speaker 2:Host it. What you mean you was going to throw your own on the block or something.
Speaker 1:Like when we first did the podcast and all the plans I had for it for the first one, I very much thought it could be great and big and, like I wanted, like a place to where we actually a podcast space but also like maybe a small event space, uh-huh. To where we could do like events like speed dating or like stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Just literally setting it up for your community.
Speaker 1:I mean, well, it could be a podcast space and like off in a room, but also have, like I told you, like Rose, this place called Rosemary's Golden Door. There are actual houses that are made into an event space. Oh yeah. So, it could be. It was like something like that in my mind. Oh OK.
Speaker 1:To where you can build it out and it could be like it don't have to be nothing crazy, it can be like 20 people, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and speed dating and you know, just have it going and have OJ host it. It would have been hilarious, it would have been great, a good time yeah. And because I had drove a girl who was hosting and speed dating.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh speed dating, and so she was just telling me about how the thing about it is that the the some of the people are continuous like continuous speed daters, which doesn't sound like a problem, but they slick slow this is like like me, like, like like they. Mine ain't right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're like the girls are like brad. This is him again. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Oh it's a turnoff, uh, but I mean they'll have getting.
Speaker 1:But she's going to again but she's a yeah, but so the feedback is getting is that I have the same continuous guys that are a part of speed dating and it's I'm trying to see a different flow of people come in. So I can you know they can say the same thing about her ass?
Speaker 1:they could, yeah, but women, there's the same motherfucking girl yeah, yeah, yeah, but but they're, they're, but women drive that. That's, they're the driver. Yeah, yeah of that. So so they're going to be the one who kind of has a control. And they say yeah yeah. When it comes to speed dating yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, men ain't gonna be. Yeah, men, are the the ones that are trying to find the? Well, they're both trying to find the partners all right, but when?
Speaker 1:when? The dating world and the chase and the culture, women control that whole thing yeah, I can yeah, it's more acceptable for a woman to go to. Like you have ladies, you have ladies nights, women get in free, like I'm saying, like that whole culture, women is, you know, the, the actual person control. So they're going to have to say the men that you're going to have to deal with whatever the women bring, you know what I mean. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So they kind of say what goes. So the host is going to lean more to their feedback than the other guys. I'm sure they're going to consider them. But you know, I mean guys pay for it. They're going to be the ones who pay for the whole date. They're going to be funding the whole thing On a speed date. I'm just saying that's how it goes. What it's naturally how it goes. That's chivalry.
Speaker 1:So if you go to a bar and it's a speed dating thing. A woman's going to say do you want me to buy you a drink? Who's going to say that?
Speaker 2:first, I'm thinking speed dating has nothing to do with drinks or food.
Speaker 1:Speed dating.
Speaker 2:Is you go there? I'm talking to shit, like 20 minutes we talking and then we get up and go. I'm buying everybody food in this bitch.
Speaker 1:No, the ones you like. Maybe, hey, can I get her a drink. You're trying to get her to loosen up the drink gonna come out after.
Speaker 2:The drink will come out when she on the next day, I don't know how I ain't been.
Speaker 1:You know speed dating, I'm just okay, yeah, the place I was dropping off was a bar uh-huh yeah, this is valentine's day I'd love to.
Speaker 2:I'd love to not even really to find anybody, but just to actually just like do it like a social thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah understood yeah, that'll be cool yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, the baddies ain't really the ones who really speed dating absolutely I don't I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, but it's definitely bartholomew on them yeah, no, no, I'm just joking I have no idea right, the, the, the, the linebacker friend, the one that fiends off the guys, yeah, yeah, no, but um, yeah, I don't that. That's that's what I thought about the dating apps too.
Speaker 1:I was like brady girls ain't on here yes, they are, though oh well shit they are, but I don't know the amount of times I hear people going out and they hear that hinge notification come up or that that it used to be tender notifications all the time and they'd be on them, active for real like very attractive women they're pretty yeah well, okay, I mean I'm sure they are.
Speaker 2:I just I just haven't. I deleted mine quick, so I didn't really like any and are you talking?
Speaker 1:are you talking about the ones back in college days or?
Speaker 2:I'm saying now I I don't think. I don't think like the quote baddies, or like the girls who can walk outside and they can pretty much pick any man they want, whatever they ain't on our day naps they definitely are, for sure. I'm telling you well shit, maybe you're right I just always assume that they have so much play. Why would I put myself on a day I could just go outside?
Speaker 1:because this era of men don't be aren't the same aggressive as they used to be in the past. Yeah, yeah. So you know, I mean, as we always have. You know, rejection hurts. It never feels good to be turned down to be said no to in general. Yeah. So, but that's even worse. When you got, I was just listening to the diary of the CEO today and there's talking about how, like you know, you be at the gym and like are you looking at my butt? You know what I? Mean yes.
Speaker 1:You get ridiculed and killed online for that? Yeah, so that's going to. You're going to internalize that as a man? Yeah, and then you'd be like, ah, creep, you know what I mean? That really don't feel good so you're gonna internalize that or hear stories of that, see it on instagram. Women talk about it. So you never want to be that guy, so you're going. So they're getting.
Speaker 1:There's less approach happening um in and you can face that easier online. Otherwise you're not going, you're just going to get ghosted and that's harmless and all things considered, because there's a million reasons why you can ghost it. You can interpret it however you want in your head, you can feel it, but it don't feel as worse as you know, getting online I mean getting in person.
Speaker 2:Or rejecting in person, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, it definitely doesn't feel good. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But through the spaces. I mean the person has what they do, probably Different pictures of them yeah. What you mean, like I'm talking about on social dating apps. Then you can look up their Instagram, get a vibe of who they are uh-huh so you're doing your own type of you know investigations yeah reminder what you think there and then you pursue, but there's a lot of relations to be built. I don't, I don't, I don't dog it, but it's the thing about dating gaps. It doesn. It's not a beautiful story, oh just to tell somebody yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we met on hand.
Speaker 1:Which? Which that matters to me. That matters Like my. My girlfriend loves our story Like I think it's a good story too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, how we met.
Speaker 2:Yeah Versus just yeah.
Speaker 1:How we met versus just um yeah or not even how we met how we dated, cause you know it's, it stemmed from us going to high school and then her friend passed away. I appeared at her uh, balloon release party. And then and I tell the story, cause, when we're out on dates, talking to whoever's in front of us like how did y'all meet? And then um, whoever's in front of us like how did y'all meet? And then, um, from there, um no, she, uh, I went out to see her. She messaged me. I didn't do anything with that message until I'm really giving long story short of it until I met at she was a bridesmaid at my cousin's wedding oh yeah yeah, yeah, and then we've been together ever since yeah, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying about those stories.
Speaker 1:Oh so it sounds you know more beautiful term story name you get the all and she loves that. I like it too. And if it's just a way, better story like hey, yeah, we met on Instagram, but you also have first dates, and how did that? First date go and that could be all the story. Yeah, he's actually a.
Speaker 1:DM. But you also have first dates. And how did that first date go? And that could be your whole story yeah, Like he slipped the pill, but it was hilarious how it was done, you know, and I just was laughing. We was laughing together ever since, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, well, I know some people. Well, I only know one person for real. It's like an older friend of mine. She went on Hinge and she's still with the guy. That's like two years in now. Yeah, yeah. So there are definitely people out there, four people for sure.
Speaker 1:For sure, yeah, but I think we just cut each other off really quick too. For sure I think we just cut each other off really quick, because when somebody does something wrong through hands or it's like you said, the wrong thing X.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's people in general today.
Speaker 1:It's very much like. Next You're familiar with. Next I'm 35. I got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you familiar with Next, right, yeah, I'm 35. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you get out of the bus. Next.
Speaker 1:That was great, and then come back on the bus.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what I mean MTV was the shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Room Raiders. Yeah, fucking Yo Mama, yeah yeah, yeah, damn room raiders.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fucking your mama.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you remember that your mama was lit oh my god, I need to watch an episode of that, yeah yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to bring it back as we did. I don't think it it can't be yeah yeah
Speaker 1:they had a whole crowd of people like they was stomped the yard or some shit, and then you go into that person's house and figure out jokes that she was gonna make it to you. Remember that that person's house and figure out jokes that she was gonna make it to you.
Speaker 2:Remember that that was a yes. Coming back, yeah, yeah, but I gotta watch that. That need to come out the vault. Yeah, yeah, what the but?
Speaker 1:even um. Punked was good oh, that's classic yeah, yeah, so that, yeah this is. Damn.
Speaker 2:How you?
Speaker 1:feeling I feel good. Yeah, no, we're doing good on time. Ah well damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like yeah, we got little things that we could talk about, but I think we can save it for next week. Yeah, yeah. More information will develop and we'll have more of that process around it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, definitely no, that was pretty cool yeah it's always something to talk about for I guess. So if we just just start talking, exactly.
Speaker 1:Well, uh, this is two for the culture. We'll be back peace love y'all.