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Two for the Culture is brought to you be Steven Rey and Justin Devonte. This is the podcast for the ages! Both Steve and Justin has been friends for over a decade plus and will give you a genuine approach on news and culture with humor and love. I promise this will be one of your favorite podcasts that you will not get enough of!
Two for the Culture
Dating in Your 30s: The Good, The Bad, and The "Did He Really Climb Through Her Window?"
Justin and Stephen explore how physical transformations impact our self-image and relationships, from new haircuts to risky life experiences, while candidly examining the financial and emotional costs of modern dating. They fearlessly dive into relationship dynamics, personal boundaries, and the pursuit of genuine connection in a world where finding the right partner requires navigating past experiences and red flags.
• Stephen reveals his dramatic haircut after years of long hair, discussing how physical changes impact confidence
• Justin shares his cliff-jumping experience with an ex-girlfriend that pushed his comfort zone
• The financial reality of dating hits hard when a dinner, movie, and drinks can easily cost $250
• The hosts debate the viability of open relationships and whether structured boundaries can make them successful
• Both reflect on past relationships and the importance of recognizing red flags early
• Discussion of the genuine safety concerns women face in relationships compared to men
• Honesty in relationships emerges as a core value for both hosts, who agree lying creates unnecessary stress
• The importance of having friends who will check you when you're making relationship mistakes
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All right, we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. This is Justin Devante.
Speaker 2:This is Stephen Ray.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, we are back. How you feeling?
Speaker 2:Feel good, feel good. I feel like time is passing very, very, very quickly.
Speaker 1:I know I think I'm with you, oh yeah, New chop. Oh yeah, Right, right yeah yeah, yeah, got new chop, got right right yeah, yeah, uh, yeah I got new chop, got lowered significantly. Yeah, I'm a whole new man out here. Yeah, uh, which I'm happy, I'm excited about because one it doesn't look bad yeah and two.
Speaker 1:It's just I was tired of just maintaining the hair and hair all over the place, yeah, then you know it's greasy, I'm touching my face, yeah, and it's just becoming a whole mess, so it's just good to get kind of rid of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you feel different when you walk outside, like when the air touches your head it hasn't hit yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's gotta get cold, yeah exactly, and by that time I'll be used to the haircut too. So yeah yeah, so it's probably a good uh time to cut off, but it's been actually years oh yeah years um, yeah.
Speaker 2:When's the last time you had it?
Speaker 1:um, I would say like two, three years ago easily, because if you, if I put it down, it was going to my shoulder, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I feel you. Yeah, it looks good, looks like you got your shit together exactly.
Speaker 1:And then not only that, it was um. Now I'm seeing the gray hairs pop up oh yeah, yeah, you didn't see it before no, I was seeing them, but now they're prevalent yeah because it was hitting amongst the many. So I'll see one occasionally and I'll grab it like dang. I'm getting them everywhere, but now I'm like, okay, they're all about yeah but yeah, that just comes with time and you know wisdom yeah, that's what they say gray hair is just wisdom yeah, no, it is, and stress yeah that's really what it is yeah, but no, but everything's good and uh, so I was just happy to get it done and kind of get out the way.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, so, and then it's here so you can grow back if you want to yeah lord willing, you will see. You know, I may not be able. Yeah, yeah, the receding yeah, luckily my hair hasn't been receding it doesn't look like you're gonna lose hair yeah, yeah, but at the same time it can always start in the back, you know, back of the head, and go out.
Speaker 2:It doesn't always start in the front. It would be I don the back, you know, back of the head and go out.
Speaker 1:It would be I don't know you know, you have the back of the head too.
Speaker 2:That can just start receiving uh-huh yeah, mine just spins out. Mine spins out since I was, or spun out since I was a kid, because it's been receiving, see, I guess.
Speaker 1:So no, I'm just saying that's where it can start.
Speaker 2:But I usually see when people's hair do that. It's kind of like in the middle right here.
Speaker 1:Is your dad bald-headed? Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I hear it skips a generation. I mean, I'm okay. Like you know, if I go that route, I'm hitting the gym twice a day, that ain't going to help your hair, though it's supposed to once you do emphasis on the workout you can do the little spike.
Speaker 1:You know the hair prickle thing the hair prickle thing yeah, yeah, where they do like uh oh, go to turkey yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't know what you call them though surgery, yeah, and, and he got his gap tooth Hair transplant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got his teeth fixed In Turkey too, his hair and his teeth fixed.
Speaker 2:It's a bundle deal from the same nigga.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he got a limousine ride to the hotel.
Speaker 2:Was the doctor, the limousine driver too.
Speaker 1:Nah, it was this lady. He showed me the pictures, everything. But when I tell you, five bands for. Both five, five thousand for everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah how does the doctor know how to do the hair and the teeth?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but I mean that you can have an electrician and a plumber too. You know he can be all those things.
Speaker 2:These are years of experience.
Speaker 1:Maybe Some people have that years and are trained.
Speaker 2:He can do the teeth too. Was it like normal looking teeth or big veneered teeth?
Speaker 1:I don't know what they did. He had a gap too. I don't know how that worked. He had a gap in between his teeth. He got them closed in somehow. Alright, yeah, I mean it's science bro.
Speaker 4:I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how they did that.
Speaker 1:But when I said when he showed me the picture, I was like I started to laugh Cause I was like this is your twin. Yeah, yeah. Oh. And then he's like no, that's me. And I was like bruh, that ain't you. I had to make sure I wasn't crazy and I looked up old pictures. Bruh, this man looked like a different person for real.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, without the plastic surgery. Uh-huh, I was lost, literally.
Speaker 2:Damn. So he looked. He looked different.
Speaker 1:Now, yes, uh-huh, so so you must not have talked to him in a while, or no? I mean not only that, I, I talked to him. We keep up with each other on like a quarterly basis. I would say uh-huh a couple times per year, but I mean, we got instagram. The pictures are night and day. It's not like oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What's what's so night and day about? Is it just the teeth?
Speaker 1:I don't know, bro, I don't know how to it literally looks like a different person. I'm not even kidding. I'll show you when I stop using my phone as a camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:You know, I have a friend who did that too, both, actually, but the one, the hair transplant was in Turkey and then the teeth was like in Miami or something. Oh, okay, yeah, I'm thinking about getting my teeth done, not really done, but like whitened.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, I'm not in a rush, I need the bottom while we're here but, I'm not in a rush to get none of that stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm definitely thinking about it, I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1:I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, might as well. I gotta get this shit fixed. I don't got 5,000 to give nobody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I ain't giving nobody 5,000. Yeah, not for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you hear about the women that came from? All the women that went to space?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that are all the women that went to space.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, that shit is crazy. They just like it's like a trip that people go on now yeah and then.
Speaker 1:But didn't the astronauts? Didn't we just talk about the astronauts getting stuck in space? Yeah, those are like the real ones though I mean, but yeah, that that makes it even more scary because they do it for a living yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And then now people are just going up there at will. It's kind of like um a vacation, you just book it you just go go out of space and you come back, come back already. Yeah, oh, they're back uh-huh that you only up there for like I don't know how long you're up there.
Speaker 2:but it's very quick, yeah, you just like float into the um, like basically on the edge or whatever, just far enough to where you still are in the, the uh atmosphere, the atmosphere, you have the gravitational force of earth, to where you're not going anywhere and you just float in for a second and then you come down. So you come down and then it's like two pairs of parachutes or something like that, and then, like on the video, you could hear them while it was going down and then when the first parachute came out, usually and the second one comes out, like they did not know if they was gonna live or die, like, like clearly, but that is crazy, I have to watch that video because that actually seems hilarious, because I know Gayle.
Speaker 2:King and.
Speaker 1:Jeff Bezos' fiance was on there.
Speaker 2:Yep, katy Perry. Okay, katy Perry was on. It's just like people just going to space.
Speaker 1:Who was the pilot, or whatever I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's crazy. I wonder how much concessions are on there. Probably like $100 for a bottle of water, you know how, like on a plane.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, or you could just wait.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could just wait. But, I mean it would be cool to like do something or like have a shot of something while you're up there, just like bro. Just mean it would be cool to like do something or like have a shot of something while you're up there, just like bro, just to do it.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if I want to, I'm not going. No, okay, yeah, I'm hypothetical Free. Yeah, all right, so I'll just pass it off to you Okay, okay, no, I didn't know if it was because of the expense of it, no, okay.
Speaker 2:I don't jump to things where off the first try you could die.
Speaker 1:Okay, so did we talk about A little bit Bungee jumping. Yeah, did we talk about that here.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we just expanded upon it, but yeah, bungee jumping, jumping, jumping out of a plane scuba diving. I really don't fuck with scuba diving have you been?
Speaker 1:it's beautiful. Have you did it? Yes, okay not not like professionally, but like I stuck my head up on water, but it was like on vacation, some group thing, they just they.
Speaker 2:They go a little bit farther out and then you see the coral, the reef, the fish and all that stuff. You go down you can see it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you put a wetsuit on though. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah Did you have oxygen tank or you had the little.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't oxygen tank. Okay, you just hold your breath.
Speaker 1:If you go down a little bit far enough, yeah, but you get the little weak ass. I don't know, I ain't never did none of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the, the little, the oxygen that goes up above water, like you're gonna really just stay right here the whole time.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay, so you got the little snorkel joint. Yeah, it does not go up that this is like right here. Oh yeah, so you can't even fucking move oh you really can't go down here for real okay, so that's, that's groupon worthy, though you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah but it was beautiful though. It was beautiful, but I just do not like. I don't like that groupons are in jamaica it wasn't in jamaica. It was what was that.
Speaker 1:It was in puerto rico okay, I didn't know, groupons was international.
Speaker 2:Actually I don't think it was a Groupon. Maybe it was a Groupon, I don't know, it was just some excursion thing, some excursion. I just don't like it's beautiful, but I also don't like things where the escape plan isn't concrete.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:If a shark is coming, what the fuck?
Speaker 1:Right, swim faster. You're dead. It's over.
Speaker 2:The escape plan is done. You cannot get to the fucking boat that fast. And then when you're under there, even though it's clear, you still cannot see past a certain point. So if a shark is coming 30 miles an hour, it's over. You're going to see that shit by the time you turn around.
Speaker 1:It's here they say punch him in the nose.
Speaker 2:Fuck around, lose an arm. That's what they told me. No, that's no, that's that. Shit scared me. Yeah, but sharks don't like humans.
Speaker 1:Humans so if they attack, tell the niggas that died yeah, yeah. Well, I'm saying you they'll, they'll they're more curious, is what I hear and they'll attack you. Think you're something else? But then when they text you, they don't want you was pretty much done by then it's not like a bear. A bear will kill you like I'm trying to kill you, a shark will just take your arm off yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah good intentions this woman shark, who lost her arm to a shark.
Speaker 1:She said it felt like an orgasm. Yeah, she belong out there. I don't know what that like when you lose your arm. It's like euphoric in some way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you're dying I don't know. You're losing a lot of blood, so I'm sure it's you for it.
Speaker 1:I think it's just the swiftness of it. The swiftness of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, your arm detaching from your body.
Speaker 1:You know, like if you cut a head, snake off and it's still alive and it's somehow attached to its body still even though its head is still moving, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I went to the dentist one time and got an extraction and he pulled the tooth out and I swear to god, I could feel the tooth crackling. I could feel it crackling like it. I can feel it crackling Like I can feel it being pulled out of my skull.
Speaker 1:You could hear it. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, but you're numb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was numb. I mean, yeah, I was numb, but like I still felt I could feel like something was being cracked off yeah. Yeah, so like how old were you?
Speaker 1:29, 30. So last year, a couple years ago, yeah, so like.
Speaker 2:How old were you? 29, 30.
Speaker 1:So last year, a couple years ago? Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah, a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying like there wasn't no euphoric feeling Like something was being ripped apart, so a whole arm. Yeah, I said the swiftness of it.
Speaker 1:That wasn't swift. He was, you know, there and there Planting his feet to the ground and tugging on it. You know of it, that wasn't Swift. He was, you know, damn near putting his feet to the ground and tugging on it, you know. Holding your head back and you know then pulling on it. Yeah, that's different. It would be different if somebody was like pulling on her arm, like if she had.
Speaker 2:Like a shark.
Speaker 1:No, no, like if she had two vehicles attached to both her arms and was ripping them off Now. That would be swift, that would hurt.
Speaker 2:I could see if both of them, if both of the cars, went 0-60 in a certain amount of time frame.
Speaker 1:Are you victim shaming right now? I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how a shark can clean a person's arm like like, just clean, do that shit fast as hell to where you're like oh, this is euphoric versus like it's it has to tug, because it can only swim the razor shark so you're just saying voop is off, yeah, I mean they're huge creatures.
Speaker 1:I mean it's different if you got like a, like a hammerhead, and maybe they're not as powerful, but if you got a great white brother, great white sharks yeah, you still got.
Speaker 2:This is meant for grazing bro, you're guessing.
Speaker 1:I'm saying what she's.
Speaker 2:Anytime I've seen a shark eat somebody. Them motherfuckers are like this in the water.
Speaker 1:See him eat anybody. It's clips out there.
Speaker 2:I don't think you've seen what you're talking about I've definitely seen clips before where somebody uh got bit by a shark and then where there's just gnawing on them, nah, not just gnawing on them, but like their body definitely was moving.
Speaker 1:You never saw that before I mean, you just saw a shark just like, and then, all of a sudden, they didn't have an arm? I ain't seen none of either. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying what her story was. It wiped it clean off. I think that's very.
Speaker 2:I think that's very true she goes to the beach reminiscing and shit yeah, I mean they say that like, uh, what's what?
Speaker 1:like, what's the laughing hyenas? Yeah, they say the hyenas have powerful jaws that can break down bone. Those are just regular dog-looking, you know, mediocre-sized creatures. A great white is completely different. Those are the apex predators, damn near of the ocean.
Speaker 2:Hmm, yeah damn near Okay so maybe, yeah, you probably, yeah, you probably, maybe, yeah, I could sort of see it, depending on the person. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They got like fragile ass.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, yeah, and she was a kid at the time too.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:But yeah, and she was a kid at the time too, oh yeah, oh. But I mean, I think it still could rip up a man's arm off instantly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm definitely underestimating, like, the power of it, but it does seem. If I were to think about it, it does seem like the whole body of the shark is a muscle. Like it's working that out forever.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I mean it's a predator to the highest degree, Because crocodiles, they do that twist of death and rip your body apart. Yeah, yeah. What do you think a shark can do? And they have razor's hell of teeth and they constantly grow. You know what I? Mean yeah, I didn't know that I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen anybody like really get fucked up off of a crocodile. Did you see that movie? That one time I forgot the name of the movie Crawl Did you ever see that yeah, it was like a crocodile movie. It was like a crocodile in a basement. That man was big as fuck. Oh man no no, no, no, I just thought of it.
Speaker 1:Nah, because it's funny how we got here. We was talking about just scuba diving and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So bungee? We said, bungee jumping is a no.
Speaker 2:I don't like any of that stuff. I feel like I'm afraid to fall deeply in love with a woman and she wants to do some crazy shit and then I just do it with her.
Speaker 1:Oh, I will watch. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:How about you. I've done it before. That's what I'm saying. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, not, not like nothing crazy like that, but it was just like a cliff and then she jumped off and I was like what, what the? But then she was okay, she jumped off a cliff. She jumped off. Yeah, first I'm like I ain't jumping off this mother into a body of water to a body of water. Okay, there you go me and her aren't together anymore so she killed herself, yeah yeah, herself she had a bad day but yeah, yeah, yeah she.
Speaker 1:She really desperately wanted to get away from you all right.
Speaker 2:So we won't be going back, at least I won't no, I know.
Speaker 1:So she jumped off like a waterfall yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a waterfall. That is still scary very much. Yeah, she was like two stories high.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it was like a house.
Speaker 2:Basically, but like yeah, two stories.
Speaker 1:Did she know the depth of the water?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went with a guy.
Speaker 1:So he did it first.
Speaker 2:No, he didn't Okay, which is why I didn't do it.
Speaker 1:I'm like all right, you do it. So I'm just saying did you know how it was? Like damn, this is actually waist deep, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Um, I could tell by when she jumped.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying did she know, did y'all know, or was he was just telling us that, oh you could, it's actually 10 feet deep yeah, oh, okay, yeah, he was just telling us.
Speaker 2:You know, people do this all the time, I can show you pictures. And I was like I'm not doing this. And then she did it. And then, um, yeah, she did it, she came out, okay, and then I was like now I look like a hoe, so, and he didn't make it any better and I was like, man, fuck this dude, what did he say he was just like oh, come on, you girl do it.
Speaker 1:You don't want to do it, so he's not this is not Puerto Rico, it's Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2:I forgot his accent. I just knew he had an accent I just had to throw something on there, okay, because that sounds very real he was easy, yeah, so yeah, he said that shit and I'm like man, fuck this nigga. And she was coming up there while he was saying it, so he made sure he said it while she could hear.
Speaker 1:Oh, he hated her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, and I just knew she was okay At first, like how she felt was very clumsy. It was very like I knew I could like do this jump better than she can. I just didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2:But, seeing that she was okay and all that, I just like went for it and I just remember falling for a long ass fucking time to where, like you know how you think you have control of your body, falling and shit. It reached some point on that fall where I did not have control and the whoo turned into mama bro, I never screamed like that before ever.
Speaker 2:It was like I swear to god, I was like splash and I was like yo so you didn't do it twice no, yeah, I came up and I was like, oh my god it was, and you know, after it's over, it's like damn like that was crazy, that was like it is a like exhilarating feeling it really is. You really feel what it feels like to be alive Like you do. So you know yeah.
Speaker 2:But I just remember doing that that one time and I don't know man, I don't know if I'll be able to do that. I don't know man, I don't know if I'll Be able to do that. I don't know that, cause the other ones are extreme Bunchy jumping. I can't do that. I'll barely do a helicopter ride now.
Speaker 1:Barely do a helicopter ride, mmhmm. Yep.
Speaker 2:Somebody else just.
Speaker 1:I'll do a helicopter ride you done? Ithmm, somebody else just passed. I'll do a helicopter ride If I'm in Nashville. I'm spooked. I'm not spooked, I'll do a helicopter ride. It's still like a plane For real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm kind of spooked on that. I was okay with it at first, but uh, nah, the helicopter shit. I just feel like it's not really it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll do it, but I'm I lean towards why. What do you mean? What am I? How does it serve me? As in the helicopter yeah, like I'd rather it be like going from one destination to another versus doing it for fun oh okay, so not like a date like I would do it because I'm sure that's what my girlfriend would want to do.
Speaker 1:yeah, but for me I'm like how does this really serve me for real, like some things, I'm that type of boring person. I can Google this and get a comprehensive understanding of what would happen if I'm on it, so why would I then just enjoy it? You know, what.
Speaker 2:I mean as in, like you don't.
Speaker 1:Like I can envision what I'm gonna see and I'm just high in the air seeing things like I am in a plane yeah you're just like what's the point? Yeah, yeah, exactly but, if it's like hey, bro, you know it's an emergency and you need to go to this helicopter to get you know to miss traffic uh yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:I'll take a helicopter ride yeah, I can see that I'll still be spooked. Yeah, somebody, just excuse me. Somebody, um, literally, just uh, like it was just some crash like a couple days ago, yeah, and this dude like he traveled to new york, uh, to I don't know, like chase's dreams of flying, and and then like he littered, like that happened yeah I, I had a class with a girl who died.
Speaker 1:Damn, she was up because we had mtsu. You have the business in the aerospace building, so a lot of the aerospace guys have same similar classes, and I was, yeah, she um like crashed into like a mountain or something like that when was that years ago, I mean like we was living in murphysburg, type of thing and she was she was a pilot.
Speaker 2:She was um driving. It was it called driving it?
Speaker 1:uh flying flying it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I'm like what? What's the word?
Speaker 1:I was just going to agree Like yeah, I think so. But yeah, she was flying, correct. Yeah, and then not too recently last year, they had a guy. He was flying from Canada to here and his plane broke down or whatever, and it crashed in Nashville Like right next to the interstate in the woods or whatever, with his family his whole family and then they showed him communicating with the airport we have the runway clear for you.
Speaker 1:He's like I'm not going to make it. And then you get to hear it and it was like I'm about to die and kill my whole family cause like, yeah, there's nothing we can do. Yeah, I drove by. I drove by there just like it was just like a big pit of flames and I was like what's going on here? And then I saw people like outside and stuff looking at it. I was like what's going on here. Then I saw people like outside and stuff looking at it. I was like this ain't normal, clearly, and then found out it was him was it a small plane? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I hear a lot about small planes going down more than the bigger ones yeah, that was just sad to see, so I'm yeah, I don't need to like the little Indian plane thing, I'm cool with just flying commercially mm-hmm yeah, no, I definitely see that a lot of people have a lot of private planes too, but they'd be like big as hell yeah, what I see. You tell me, like the floor, move with the joints yeah, yeah, that would not be cool you said who drake?
Speaker 2:oh yeah um the kardashians yeah, ross, yeah, has his went away or some. What happened?
Speaker 1:to it, you telling me.
Speaker 2:something happened to it, yeah, it disappeared or something, something, something crazy happened to it, yeah it disappeared or something.
Speaker 1:Something crazy happened to it. Yeah, everybody that crossed your path ended up. No, I'm just talking.
Speaker 2:Just kind of fucked up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, I don't, man, I'm scared of fucking flying bro, I really am, but you fly fairly often though.
Speaker 2:Not anymore.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But I do want to get out though. Not going to lie, Get out where I want to go to Miami, Dallas and back to LA. Atlanta's just gonna be a given. Well, yeah, and you're gonna fly to Atlanta, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll just drive to Atlanta, but what's in Dallas?
Speaker 2:I just want to see what's there. I just feel like something makes me feel like I can be there and feel like I kind of belong in a way. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Huh, is there something you've seen on Instagram?
Speaker 2:Not necessarily on Instagram, Maybe just like the type of people that come out of there. I don't know man. I feel like it's like Atlanta, but like less dangerous. It's dangerous everywhere.
Speaker 1:I think it's probably just as dangerous in Dallas.
Speaker 2:You think just as.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Well, I still think I'd rather do Dallas to do it later.
Speaker 1:But I do love LA that.
Speaker 2:Just think that Dallas is big as hell for you probably you haven't been like outside of the airport.
Speaker 1:No, mmm, but you've been outside the airport right and down for like five minutes outside of it yeah, going to a hotel you didn't want to get out at all.
Speaker 2:Uh, no it was like my flight got canceled and they just thankfully I forgot which airline it was, but they, they comped me a hotel for the night.
Speaker 1:Sounds like it wasn't Spirit.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I was thinking it was Spirit, but I'm like, nah, they comped me a hotel, yeah yeah yeah, so. I don't know oh yeah, that's when I was working for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was working for some people. It was like some political stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and then, yeah, they had comped that for me, so that was dope, but like everything was closed in there so it had to be like 12 or 1 in the morning when I got there.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, right so.
Speaker 2:Well, it could have been the bar you went to. Yeah, I did go to a bar they had a bar downstairs.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's not what I meant, though. Oh well, it was still cool it was still cool.
Speaker 2:You know, this shit was cheap as fuck. Like that's when I realized what it was to be um single for real, like going out, like it's amazing, um, like having, uh, a girl and you're constantly going outside and constantly like paying for things, I agree it's totally different.
Speaker 2:But then I'm saying like, on top of that, I was in LA, so drinks and all that shit was like a lot more. The parking, everything was just more compared to everywhere else that I've been. So it was just crazy. That was the first time I really understood, because I was like recently single, excuse me, when I got there. So I was recently single and it wasn't in la, and it was this bar, this hotel, and then the bill came. I'm like man, this is amazing. This shit was like 30 some dollars. I was like whoa yeah that's bruh.
Speaker 2:That ain't nothing but a little, a little. Uh, netflix charge well nowadays, yeah right, no, I totally, I totally agree with you in terms of being single and how cheap it is to do things it's incredibly cheap bro, like you could order anything and I have to even, you know well, I mean, I do want to um, um, stay in an abundance mindset but, it's just, it's just it's totally, it's totally different, yeah, completely different yeah, I mean, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's literally night day yes, yeah, yeah because I was like I don't remember being going the movie. We went to the movies.
Speaker 3:I was like the movie's expensive yeah, I was like damn this shit expensive, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't remember the movies being this expensive did you go? It's not really that expensive uh did you go to? Just the whole night added up oh, the facts yeah yeah yeah, because you spend definitely 200. It was like 170 for the meal for both of us that's inside the movie theater. No, hell, no, no, no, no. I'm saying like.
Speaker 2:There are movie theaters, that where you can like order food yeah, yeah, I'm not, not the concessions thing, yeah right yeah, it's not that extravagant.
Speaker 1:They just got a bar at the movie theater, yeah, cuz this movie date is attached to the mall too. Right, right, but no, so we went to the restaurant this, right, yeah, what's Friday called Lyra which was good I enjoyed it, but then that was 170. Then the movie tickets was like 40-something for both of us, and then we had a bottle of alcohol.
Speaker 2:Y'all snuck it in. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:We had drunk it before and then after.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I slept with drinking before a movie.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to sleep uh well, we took like a. I took two shots, so it's not sleepable yeah, and then um, and then yeah, so the, the, the bottle was like $40. The movie was like $40. And then the dinner was $170. So, yeah, I add up all that shit real quick. Yeah, it's like, bro, this is like.
Speaker 2:We're not going out next weekend. Yeah, you said what we're not going out next weekend.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, because I don't we're not going out next weekend. Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, because I don't even like the idea of doing that, because I even go into work and work is like, yeah, so get your hair done, it's not going to be by me. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So you were like we got to pick. You know you got to pick your battles and choose what you wanna get done. Yeah, or we going to Chili's for real, uh huh yeah, that's how I say it in my head yeah yeah, yeah that's too funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like we gonna have Chili's, but then I'll be going to Chili's and I'll be like the bill be ran up. I'll be like bruh this Chili's bruh this some shit, yeah me neither but I.
Speaker 1:I assume that's what happened because we went to this like nonchalant country bar and the bill was more than I like 75 dollars. Uh-huh, like I'm not. I'm mad that it's displaced, like the feed is supposed to be like eight bucks bro you know, oh, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, um uh, but no, it's different. Yeah, definitely different.
Speaker 1:No, so we had went to uh the movies and called and saw the stop. I think that's what it's different. Yeah, no, so we had went to the movies and call it, saw the stop. I think that's what it's called the stop. I'm sure I'm saying it wrong, but it's like either the go or stop or don't stop or something like that. Okay, so pretty much I wasn't mad at the movie, though I would go out because I want to see sinners.
Speaker 2:Yes, but yeah, yeah, I think it might be way better than what I'm thinking, that it's starting to give that because they're going way too hard with the marketing for the marketing, yeah, this one had no marketing oh yeah, I don't even know where my girlfriend found it at, but she was telling everybody and it sounded interesting.
Speaker 1:So pretty much what it's about. It's about um a lady. She goes out for the first time. She's um, she was a victim of domestic violence and she goes out on her date for the first time and during the date she's receiving messages from um, an unknown person, um telling her she, you know, you're about to have a terrible night and and she's like, okay, somebody's playing with me. And then they use her name, violet. You're going to have a terrible night and it's like how do you know my name? Because apparently it's this app like. It's like a um android app. It's it's probably some made-up shit, but android app that you can just airdrop things to a person's phone uh-huh within a 50 yard or 50 meters oh
Speaker 1:okay, yeah. So it's somebody within the restaurant. And so then they say they say, hey, kill your date, or we kill your son. And then she's like okay, she's like you know. Then she's like, look at your security camera. Then there's a guy at her house, yeah, yeah and, and he's like waving his gun and, uh, her, the son and the his, his, her sister's downstairs or is upstairs. So he's like, oh, so somebody's at my house. She's like you gotta kill your date. You're like, and so he's like, oh, somebody's at my house.
Speaker 1:She's like you got to kill your date, and so he's telling her to do assignments. But any time she's like doing something like he knows, like somehow he's seeing cameras, somehow he's hearing her voice. Like she tried to go to like hey, he's a, because the dude's a, a photographer. He like, take his sd card and break it in the bathroom. So she goes to the bathroom and she tries to sign for help like ask somebody for help, enlisted. He's like don't be stupid, don't ask them for help. And then, so how are they seeing her? So apparently there's like, um, like he uh bugged the bathroom. Oh, do you want me to uh, to uh, give away the plot?
Speaker 1:and everything I thought you were oh okay, I was gonna stop there it reminds me a lot of this movie I made with rob.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, but uh-huh and um.
Speaker 1:So, um, what do you? What do you say before you give up? Give away, um, no spoilers. Yeah, yeah, exactly, spoiler alert, alert. Spoiler alert, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, so comes to find out. So she's originally she, it's, it's a date, it's uh, through one of the apps, um, so she meets a couple people before the date comes. He's running late. You know one guy she bumps into and he's like, oh funny, but yeah, this is our second time bumping into each other. She thinks it's him who's doing it. It's not um.
Speaker 1:But then there's another guy who's on a blind date and, um, he's kind of off in this corner or whatever. The blind date. You can say like you're a jerk, you're an asshole, and she walks off. But he was already saying how nervous he was for the blind date. So, uh, when that happens, uh, the bartender, she's like burnt is everything okay.
Speaker 1:Because she's like clearly panicking throughout the date because she, he has her doing different assignments, like, hey, you gotta spike his drink, you know, you gotta. Uh, you gotta break his sd card, you gotta do this and that. So she's like you know, of course. And so the bartender is like what's wrong? Um, she's like you know, it's just um so, and so she's making up an excuse. She's like oh, okay, because you know it's funny how that happened, because that guy who had that bad day, he been staring at you all night, yeah, yeah. And then she goes to him and is like I know you're sending me the pictures, I'm paraphrasing. And then he's like no, I'm not. And she's like yes, you are. He's like Violet, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1:And then she's like how do you know my name? Never told you my name. Yeah, he's like.
Speaker 2:Uh, he caught me he's like that whole beat in my head went from like a certain amount of stars to one as soon as okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's, it's cool though it's not like the best movie ain't like a bad movie.
Speaker 1:It could be better. Yeah, because a lot of it's bullshit. You're like you can't plan that well. Yeah, so they could have easily had not planned to go to that date and went somewhere else. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like I've been planning this for weeks. He's like how do you know all this? So he's like sit down.
Speaker 1:And then she's like blah, blah, sit. And then she sits down. He's like, yeah, that photographer, he actually works for the mayor, he's an FBI informant and you got to kill him before his trial, otherwise we kill your son. And so he gave her the bow and then he was like I'm playing chess not, you know, this is chess, not Yahtzee because she's a therapist, because she's been a therapist since she went through her domestic violence case. He's like the pills you described to your patients is what's in there plus fentanyl.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, so you're going to go down for this. And so a part of it was he had told her to pour it in that shot. So it looked like she did pour it in the shot. But then when the dude came to the table he saw them sitting. He's like what's going on? And then she's like no cheers to a good night. And then he's like I'm good, and he's like no cheers, cheers. And so he takes a shot.
Speaker 1:While he takes a shot, the the uh villain looks at him. She pours it in his dessert. And then, um, and then he takes a shot. He walks back to the table. He's like now, call your man off. This is the dumb ass part. She's like call your man off. And then he's like, okay, she, he took the shot, you can leave. And then, and then he starts eating, eating the uh dessert. And then that's when they show. Then she's like, yeah, he's like this dessert tastes amazing, I'm going to have it to myself. And uh, she's. And then he starts like kind of coughing a little bit. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you're gonna go down for this is gonna be great.
Speaker 1:And then that's when she tells him I poured that in your dessert and he's like you, bitch, you're my man hasn't left yet, and so he calls him to come kill her, kill the son and the sister oh uh, like bro you, why did you snitch on you? And so he pulls out his pistol. Tried to kill her in front of the restaurant. Uh, he dies, whatever. But then she has to go to the house right and and kill the nigga. So she never called the police uh yeah, yeah, yeah. And so she goes to the house and saves her sister and her brother and her son doesn't he already know, though, what the guy at the house?
Speaker 2:doesn't he already know that?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah yeah, but he suck, I mean he are uh. So during that time he already beats, uh, knocks out his, the daughter and pins the son in the bedroom. Yeah so, so he never really killed him, but they already knew. So she, the sister, kind of awakened from getting knocked out. And so she kind of tries to fight him off. She gets shot. The son runs away in the meantime and hides, and then she comes in the house and saves him.
Speaker 2:Okay, so how was it over? What do you rate it?
Speaker 1:I give it about a six and a half. Six and a half, yeah, yeah, give it six and a half, six and a half. Yeah, yeah, give me six and a half seven. It wasn't a bad watch. I know I described it terribly.
Speaker 2:No, I got it, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, about a six and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I would watch it again.
Speaker 2:Oh, you would.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because it was a lot of little cool things about it, but it was just like, of course, hella unrealistic because a lot of stuff it's like, bro, you're going to call somebody. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're going to call one. Yeah, you're going to call the police at some point to say hey, definitely you're not going to snitch and let them know that you put that in his drink because that was like I would have left it alone. You know that you put that in his drink because that was like I would left it alone. You didn't need to know that he was going to die before he died uh-huh, yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So she very much got uh and oh, in the meantime she uh, the pianist she had wrote on a on a dollar bill um, you know, save me, type of thing. And to the pianist, he poured the drink in his drink and he got her, the pianist killed.
Speaker 2:So that's really the only besides the villains the only person who died um okay so yeah, yeah, that, yeah, it reminds me a lot of this thing I made with um, the, with rob. Uh, the only difference was, like the, the, the woman had to kill her family, rob. The only difference was the woman had to kill her family. Was it her family? No, the woman had to kill the neighbor's family because in her ear there were some people that needed him dead.
Speaker 2:Basically, and they had her kid about to kill him. It was a little similar when you said that I'm surprised you haven't heard about um black mirror, though black mirror is like going no, I heard about black mirror.
Speaker 1:I just never seen any episodes because black mirror has been around for a while yeah, well, and I'm lying. I've seen an episode or two about black mirror because, black.
Speaker 2:It has different cast each episode right uh, yeah yeah, it's like every episode is a new thing yeah, because I had the one with ethony mackie yeah yeah, when he was playing the video game, when he was having sex with his friend yes yeah, that's very weird to me.
Speaker 2:On the motor, on the motor combat stage, yeah, um, yeah, yeah yeah, that did happen. It was a very weird episode, but I mean, yeah, it's weird, I don't know it's weird, but it's amazing though I mean it's still good, but it makes me feel weird, At least that certain episode does. Right right, yeah, all the other episodes it's different, everything is different. Yeah, so it's pretty dope and it's a dope watch.
Speaker 1:And they had to find out like am I gay for real? You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do. It's coming back to me. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they found out they wasn't really gay so they continued to have sex with each other on the game. Yeah, on the game. Yeah, somebody had to take it, though, so that's really crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that did that happen. And then he had what uh one? A hall pass. And then his wife got to have a hall pass of actually fucking somebody. I don't remember that part of it yeah, yeah, like she wanted a hall pass from him, and so he had a hall pass to yeah, fuck his best friend on the game yeah, that's very weird very weird. And then she had a hall pass to actually go out in the real world and do something with somebody at a bar that she went to.
Speaker 1:And so I also saw it was like because there's a lot of horror in it, right?
Speaker 2:Not really. Okay, no, it's. Usually it's just big sci-fi psychological thrillers. That's really what it is, and it's always in an environment that's in either the near or far future, so it's always in the future somehow, or some type of or even if it could be in the past, it would be some technologically advanced civilization compared to ours where we are right now. You gotcha, yeah, so it's pretty dope. But speaking of random partners and all that, uh, did you hear what neo said about, like all of his girls?
Speaker 1:that he can't. They can't have sex with nobody but him or something yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, like they can't, they can't do anything, but he can if he wants to yeah, he's rich.
Speaker 1:That's how that shit goes I know somebody.
Speaker 2:I know somebody who's not rich and they have a girl, and I don't know if they're like this now, but he was praising it at one point. Him and another friend they were at that. Uh, we were somewhere. It was like a kickback or something and they both were in sort of the same situation of having a girl and they had an open relationship. But the girl could do something with with other women if she wanted to and but she couldn't do anything with men, but he could with other women. And I'm asking could you be in a relationship like that? Absolutely?
Speaker 3:But she couldn't do anything with men but he could with other women.
Speaker 2:Okay, and I'm asking could you be in a relationship like?
Speaker 1:that Absolutely. You already knew that.
Speaker 2:I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 1:I don't think I could that you can have sex with other women.
Speaker 2:I feel like the foundation is too messy, Like something's going to go wrong it is messy. Yeah, that's what I feel. I messy, like something's going to go wrong. It is messy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I feel like. I feel like something's going to go, but it's less messy when you're getting your dick set. Yeah, but like it feels less, worse.
Speaker 2:I, I feel you, I just I had that conversation with them that day I just I don't think I it just sounds like something's.
Speaker 1:I don't think, it just sounds like something's not right, like something's going to go wrong, very much. So. I mean, when you there's more parties involved in your relationship, then the odds of her going wrong are amplified. Yeah, but I mean that. So it's only going to get as bad as the discipline if.
Speaker 2:if you're very, if you're in the relationship and y'all have boundaries, as long as y'all go in that boundaries and everybody involved knows your boundaries, then that's fine I I'm just saying, I'm saying emotionally, like just how the human brain works in general, like if I'm out here doing this with all these girls and my girl sees a guy, I would just assume that her mind would wonder a little bit her mind's gonna wonder regardless yeah, but I'm actually out here doing stuff with people.
Speaker 1:I feel like that would make her mind wonder a little bit more than just like shutting that off but she, she has another person she can go on to who you said another woman oh, yeah, yeah she, yeah, she has to like women for it, for it to work yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean even even so, there's relationships to where uh uh, married wives let their husbands step up uh-huh yeah, I mean, but when you talk about when their mind wanders, your mind's gonna wander, if your relationship or not, and you're just uh, mutually exclusive, exclusive to each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying the psyche of a person. I just feel like it just feels messy, like clouded, like no structure. I mean it can be structure, but I just feel like how the mind works long term, specifically long term, it just doesn't feel like that is a solid foundation for a relationship. You gotta explain to me why not because I feel, like if you're able to do something that I'm not able to do, eventually I feel like you're missing the point.
Speaker 1:We you keep on saying that they're both able to have sex with women. Yeah, but I'm saying she's attracted to men too.
Speaker 2:OK, so she actually likes. Men.
Speaker 1:OK, so is she if we're together. She no longer attracted to men.
Speaker 2:If we're no longer together.
Speaker 1:I said if, if, if. Oh, excuse me, I misspoke. If we are together and we're in a monogamous relationship exclusive to each other, is she no longer attracted to men? No, she's still okay, and she said she, she doesn't have sex with other men too. So what? What is it? So? Why does what the other person does contingent on how you behave? If that's within y'all's boundaries, if that's what you're willing to accept, it's either you're willing to accept it or you're not.
Speaker 1:No, I know so at that point you go to back to the table. Hey, bae, I thought I would be up for this and this is a lot more difficult for me. Um, and then y'all can talk about it yeah, I just feel like that's the again.
Speaker 2:I mean I've definitely heard of relationships and seeing that happen. I just don't think long term it's like. I feel like that would have to calm down then that's the conversation that you have hmm, yeah, but are those people you talked about still together?
Speaker 1:I'm curious.
Speaker 2:One of them.
Speaker 1:Oh, you got multiple people in open relationships like this.
Speaker 2:No, at that one time where I was sitting at the table it was two friends and both of them at that time frame was in open relationships. Okay. And. I don't think, even though one of them is still in that relationship I don't think it was one of them is still in that relationship.
Speaker 1:I don't think it was like it was then probably so, because I mean, it sounds like they're young, all right, yeah, yeah, so they're young. So I'm sure this is something they probably are new to uh-huh so you're learning.
Speaker 1:Like you are in a relationship, your relationship, what you tolerated in the beginning is going to be different within what you tolerate five years from in the relationship yeah yeah, so, yeah, so that's just a natural relationship well, yeah, I mean know what you don't like and do like yeah yeah, but I mean for me in that is that because I didn't, I don't have like women I'm not necessarily threatened by or jealous of, so so I can, I can tolerate that because that's not a concern of mine. It's when you step outside the boundary of what we laid and then I was like, okay, all right, so you can't. You clearly are not disciplined enough to operate in this boundary so we got to shut it off.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that's. That's where it comes. It like some. You're not. You're not either discussing the rule with the other party, so they don't know how to move, or you're not. You're not telling what's actually happening, or nobody knows the boundaries and I and you're clearly stepping over the boundary.
Speaker 3:So we got to shut it down because you don't know how to operate in it.
Speaker 1:So that's typically kind of how it is. It's like either you go back to the negotiate the table and be like, hey, you know what my my mind can't take all that I thought I could, but now that I'm in it I realize I can't. And and then you were like, ok, and that person can either choose to be like you know what, this is what I love to do, and you have to accept what the other person gives, because that was a deal that y'all brought to and now the conditions change. Or the person is cheating or going outside the boundary so you gotta reel it back.
Speaker 2:I get on it, I get on it. I just, I guess all I'm saying is personally. I just don't see it. Um, it's just, I guess it's how my mind works.
Speaker 1:I just don't think it just looks messy yeah yeah and it breeds toxicity yeah yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:If everybody just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it just looks like uh, like like a whole uh, like a uh what says?
Speaker 1:like. I don't even know what to call what the word I'm coming in, but it's like a like, just like a max it now.
Speaker 4:It just looks gross it looks very undisciplined, yeah for sure I.
Speaker 1:I see the vision that you have for it yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:I think it's definitely uh certain people certain people do certain things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but but there is structure in it there is structure yeah, there can be.
Speaker 1:Now, if you're just like, hey, I like hoes, so I'm gonna keep on fucking them and, by the way, you can fuck other hoes too like, yeah, I can see where you're getting that from. But if they're saying, hey, like, for me it'd be like, hey, my time, I like to spend my time working and hustling. Now, if, if I'm not, if you can't always get all of me, so if you want to have somebody else to take you out sometime and that be a girl, you like girls, okay, I'm willing to talk about that. Now, here's the boundaries of what I will allow. Yeah, yeah, I'm first priority. So if I call, you don't answer and you're with somebody else now, that's a problem, because now I'm second to that person. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is what. If you're willing to accept that we shake on it and then you go outside that boundary, then I'm going to have a problem. So let's make that clear. Yeah, so I mean. But so that is like y'all do y'all's own thing and have fun. Now I get to work and get to do build my own business up without having to worry about like I'm not spending enough time. It's like, oh, shenanigans can take care of that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, my brain doesn't work like that. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to reach a song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, but that's fine.
Speaker 2:It's like I think that I get what you're saying, though, for sure that is a task for sure of always having to. It just comes with any relationship in general that time that you got to spend, the time you got to split up going out, the time you got to split up going out and all now you got, now you need to um factor in the spending of more and more spending, more, uh grinding than you did before you know. So I definitely get what you're saying about that. And then, like, splitting that time up, um, yeah, I'm just, I ain't built like that yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I mean you like what's yours. I don't think there's nothing wrong with liking what's yours yeah yeah, yeah, I don't. You don't like that. I think you also probably have an idea like I don't want to lose nobody to somebody too, or the fact that somebody else is being able to pleasure just as well as me it's more of uh because you, because I'm sure you wouldn't like to hear, and this same for me, um, like, like the hell that you know, previously somebody was, you know, knocking it down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, better than I could. That wouldn't feel good either, but I'm sure that's probably been the case mm-hmm yeah, yeah, I can't be your best you ever had every time. You know, definitely if you have multiple partners.
Speaker 2:I don't know that's, that's the main thing. I think the main thing is just more. So what is it? It's more of a I guess you could say a territorial thing, or it's more of a. It's like a pact, like it's a bond, like I just feel like well with me, I just don't, I don't want to think about anything a woman or not?
Speaker 2:like not saying that I'm threatened by a woman. It's not necessarily that. It's just like it's only. It's only when I'm again like in love with a person and when I get there and it's just like, brad I, I want it to be me and you only yeah and uh and you're, uh, you.
Speaker 1:It sounds like you just kind of love love, which is also good too yeah.
Speaker 1:And I have a lot of those. I mean, I think everybody has that in them. But as, on the other side of that, as I grow older, I do see when people can Marry somebody For other reasons Outside of love, easily Fix, yeah, yeah, like whether it's the partnership of it, like, hey, we align in these areas, so you make the best partner for the alignment of what I see Like if somebody wants to be a housewife and somebody's a provider and they want kids and they build up to that. Alignment of what I see like if somebody wants to be a housewife and somebody's a provider and they want kids and they build up to that, and then I can see that being more of a thing it's like hey, I believe in god you believe in god.
Speaker 1:You know we have these boundaries. I may not have that absolute love, but we align in a lot of places and I I want to keep that I've seen that.
Speaker 2:I've seen that before.
Speaker 1:Yeah I guess it works in their own fashion and I used to never think I could live in that place.
Speaker 2:I don't think I can. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like. It doesn't seem like that's happiness.
Speaker 1:It seems like you're doing a good job yeah, and, and I'm not old enough to to to really give that huge perspective. But what I feel like is just me personally. I have a lot on my plate and my granny needs to take care of my dad just gave me the power of attorney for his decision making. Because it's self declining. It's like, yeah, I got a lot of things on my plate, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Things on my plate, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Happiness, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very much what you find in it. It's like you got a lot of priorities and you, if you want to be happy, you got to find yourself happiness within those priorities you know what I mean and whatever so.
Speaker 1:So what I mean is that it's like I'm a glass. I'm a glass half full, not half empty. It's like alright, I like podcasts, so if that's what made me happy, you better dwell in those things. You know what I? Mean yeah, I like time by myself, you know so yeah, that's what everybody does. I'm just saying little things. It's like, yeah, some, some things are going to bring you happiness and some things are going to bring stresses. It always doesn't have to be another person well, I wasn't putting that much weight on.
Speaker 1:I understood, understood uh-huh.
Speaker 2:well, I was just saying, first of all, like a person, being happy is completely your responsibility. I believe that it's not like anybody else. What I was saying, more so, was just the people that become married to someone because they fit perfectly in this box of their life, versus you actually have you actually feel like you're, like your soul's tied with this person? Yeah, like the difference between the two.
Speaker 1:um, I would just want a balance of that of both yeah, I think I just live, yeah, I just I, I just, I guess I understand, you know I used to be I would say I would be 100 with you when I was in a first relationship yeah but now that I'm 32, about to be 33, so you can, you can have, you can have a wife and you're not in love with her um, I can I have a wife that I'm not in love with her?
Speaker 2:you can marry. You can marry somebody that you're not in love with I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 1:That's not basically what I'm saying that's not really what I'm saying, though. I think that you can love somebody and hey, ultimately, do they align to what like, like. What I tell my girlfriend is like.
Speaker 1:What I'm looking for is kindness, respect um loyalty um yeah, critique without being harsh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, non-aggressive. In most moments, of course you're going to be emotional about things, but can you accept you know what I'm doing in conversation and then not have to be this whole thing Like, can I tell you that wasn't okay and be calm-minded and you accept it, it, you know? So it's like little things like that. Ultimately, if you're pretty, you know I mean you got a nice body, I mean I can, if you fit that shell, then we're gonna there's.
Speaker 1:There's things I'm gonna like and don't like about you but as long as you fit that mold, I'm, I'm, I think I can love you, bro, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so it's like I don't want to seem like, oh, you can't they no love in whatever. It's like that person is going to be your, the mother of your child. You're going to love that person, you're going to protect. You want to see her happy because you get more happiness out of that.
Speaker 2:But at the same time your soul's tied but at the same time your soul's tied yeah, I mean that was a little extreme, but like yeah, yeah, I just it seemed like you were saying more, so you can marry somebody that you don't like for real I can see how you got that, yeah, yeah like what I meant. So time it's just like you know you look at a person. Like you know that you're in love with this yeah, some people.
Speaker 1:I'd be disgusted by no-transcript. I wouldn't marry you if you was the last person on Earth. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying I can marry any old body if they got a good career. No, If it fits perfectly. But I'm just saying I said where are y'all lying at? Yeah, I don't have to be. You know you take my breath away. Yeah, and that's where I think ultimately, where they like when you talk about love is love is like you take my breath away. I can't stop thinking and speaking about you.
Speaker 2:You know what it's like it's not, yeah, it's not puppy love yeah, but, yeah, but it very much.
Speaker 1:People have that hopeless, that romantic, romanticized love in that way. It's like are we? Hey, you cool, yeah, you're pretty. I well, I find you attractive. Um, a, your personality fits to what I want to see my wife be yeah okay and I think I can love that and we can grow.
Speaker 2:That's what's fucking me. Up is like I think I could love that yeah like I'm just saying I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1:I know I'm going to love it, but I was like okay yeah, it literally sounds like we can make something into this bond because we're going to very much grow with it.
Speaker 3:We can even grow out of love or grow in, you know, grow into it yeah love is strong and fickle yeah exactly, yeah you're gonna fall in love with the person you're gonna to fall in love with the person You're going to fall out of love with the person, especially if you're married.
Speaker 2:I expect unfortunately I do expect to be in love and out of love throughout that process of being married.
Speaker 1:But as long as your personality is strong, like hey, she's hilarious and enjoyable to be around, you typically don't lose that. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, so unless something dramatic happens to where you're traumatized, you typically don't lose some of those same features that you've always had within yeah. So as long as you have that and you know we're good, we're a good time, we can make this thing work yeah, yeah but yeah, so I was.
Speaker 1:I was just more on the side of, just like bruh, you know we gotta be clenched to each other at all times and be hugged up like my little sugar plum, yeah all those really sound nice, but uh, it's just not super realistic to me and not something I want anyway, yeah, I think I think we both took each other what we said in extreme ways. Yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:I just, yeah, I got to, I got to be attracted into this one because I feel like I'm going to be different. I'm not going to be fully the person that I could be in this marriage if I don't like you for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course this trip gonna be different.
Speaker 2:My effort into making you happy is gonna be different. You know, if I'm fed up with you like nigga, fuck you. I'm not finna. Try to make amends.
Speaker 1:I don't really like you, like that I think one of the worst and best qualities about myself is some is like that is to where. Regardless who you are, if I feel like you bullshitting and tripping, I don't feel any pressure or pressure to like be the. Oh, I'm apologize, even though I'm not wrong oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like, nah, I'm standing on this.
Speaker 1:I think you're tripping, and fine. If you want to pout and be in your own corner, all right. Better for me, because I like to be above myself anyway. So you, I don't lose, I literally don't like like it's. It's like the best or worst thing for me. It's like. I feel like I should make amends, but I enjoy being by myself, so it sucks for you.
Speaker 2:Turns on something. Exactly.
Speaker 1:Put my headphones in. All right, bye. I wanted to hear this podcast anyway, oh God. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I could just like see you in the house Like happy, just swinging your feet in your chair Listening to a podcast and she just slamming shit while she's cleaning.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I feel like leaving. I'm gonna go work. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I'm confessing at this point, cause this is literally how I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like I'm confessing at this point, because this is literally how I think yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like I express myself outside of this, but yeah, it's some of those things like alright, you're mad, fine, I'll work some more. Yeah, now I get to work in peace now.
Speaker 1:I have to call in all the damn time. Yeah, so okay. Oh yeah, yeah, because she listens. I might have to call in all the damn time. Yeah, so okay. Oh yeah, yeah, because she listens. I'm going to have to explain myself with this. But that's very much true.
Speaker 1:sometimes it's like yeah, either we figure it out at that moment or you lose, because now you're just mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah because I'm not going to stoop myself to get mad with you. No, fair, yeah, yeah, because I'm not going to stoop myself to get mad with you. No, yeah, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we can either be adults and talk about it and be, open-minded, or it's just going to be this and either way I'm a half glass full person, so I'm I'm not going to take an l in this, I promise you I'm not well, that's okay yeah that makes sense I mean I do.
Speaker 2:I do believe that, um, it's very important, kind of to go to your point, it's very important for, like the man to keep frame in the relationship. Yeah, that's that's super, super important. Um, because, if not, then, like once you start like um, doing kind of what you said, you were like, even if they know they tripping or maybe they don't know they tripping, but they are and then as soon as when you kind of break frame and then you're like well, what do you want to do tonight? Just to get over it or whatever. Like that respect level goes down yeah yeah, like, every like, every time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll just be upfront about a situation, and it's like when she's mad, I can visibly tell when she's mad. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's in my head the silly thing. It's like silly thing. For example, she has a child, he's like you staying over tonight, and then I'm like ask your mom, you know like yeah, what do you mean? No, so he's asked me that several times. I've answered him before, but he kind of asked that more times. I'm going to give you you long story. Short about shorter. Um, yes, I can answer him every time, but I I just push it back to his mom at this point um she's like you can answer.
Speaker 1:I was like no, I think it should, I think you can like I'm trying to figure out what what's going on? Here. It's so silly, it's literally the silliest thing. It's like yeah, it's just awkward for him to ask. You know people are asking, I just throw it to you so you can answer them, because it's like a one and done thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's like you can answer them. I was like I'm not, I'm not, you got it, and that's something. She got mad at it because she's like you know, you can't just dismiss me. And then so I was like you're crying over here. But so my thing is is like OK, we can have a civil discussion about it, but you're now, you're not. Now, this ruined your night. Now, since I think it's so silly to have ruined your night, I'm not going to try to make it comfort you.
Speaker 2:It's so silly to me.
Speaker 1:I'm about to go away, you can just tell him yeah, he is or he's not, or whatever. Just keep it as that, because you can just tell him yeah, he is, or he's not, or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And just keep it as that. But so it's like one of those silly things to me, to where it's like I could maybe fix this. But I know what it was really all about. It was the fact that she feels that I'm dismissing her, which is silly, cause I knew that was the issue. I was like which is silly to me because the more times than not, we lean on to what you want to do or what you asked me to do. So if you ask me, so so I and I gave her cause. We talked about it the next day, cause I wasn't giving in. So you're going to have to bring it to the floor because we know what the I know what the issue is. I'm just waiting for you to say it because it gives me peace. You're like you can just be mad, but it's not going to help your situation?
Speaker 1:yeah, because I'm gonna just be to be to myself and act like nothing happened. Um, so, so, um, so we got to. She's like yeah, I just feel, because that's what she said, you know, I just, I just feel like you're dissuasing me. You can't do that whenever you please, and I'm like that's, you know, in my head. I'm like do you not know how this relationship goes? It barely leans on to what I want.
Speaker 1:So I gave her the example. I was like yeah, I was like you remember we was at the airport. I was like, yeah, I was like you remember we was at the airport and then she told me to do something Like hey, instead of going to the front, we're going to scan in here. And then I said, hey, I pretty much I'm paraphrasing I was like you know, happy wife, happy life type of thing. And the man was next to me and smiled Like, yeah, yeah. And then he and he as, and then we talked about it during the uh, during the flight, and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, he. He's like he's a wise man. I'm speaking for the way he was thinking about me yeah, like good choice and so yeah and then.
Speaker 1:So I used that as an example. I was like, yeah, we always lean on to what you got to do, but the times that I tell you, no, I'm not doing this is where you have a problem, uh-huh yeah, I don't, so it's it's really you, you feeling like you can, you should. You don't realize that. You think that you should control everything and and that's really where the problems lie there's a suit lie. The one thing you don't have control and I don't just obey your command is the actual issue.
Speaker 2:I can see that with certain relationships. I don't fully believe in the quote happy wife happy life.
Speaker 1:No, I was using that as an example.
Speaker 2:I mean, you clearly aren't moving like that, you clearly aren't moving like that. Uh, you really aren't moving like that from time to time, yeah, but uh, yeah, I don't, I don't fully believe in that shit. Yeah, um, the somebody said happy spouse, happy house.
Speaker 1:I'm more into that, like um yeah so, like both of us matter. Okay, yeah so, but at when I talk it doesn't sound like how the relationship is and it sounds like it could be more of my way. But it's really never that, because I'm very considerate of the other person. But that's the thing about me. Is I which, for better or for worse, I self reflect on that decision and I justify if you should be mad or not. So I'll look at it like damn. I did accidentally step my foot out and tripped you. I should apologize for that because that was wrong with me and I'll apologize. But if I did something that you overreacted on, I'm like bruh nah.
Speaker 1:I ain't apologizing for it, you know. So I pick and choose based off of what I think the situation is, to say, hey, I'm wrong, so that could work against me sometimes and it could work for me in a lot of times so but I consider you is ultimately like, a lot of everything I do is based off of her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh-huh, and you're like, okay, let me consider her and think about how she's going to feel, and. But sometimes there'll be times to where it's like, hey, I would love to spend time, but I have to work. You know, I have to pay these bills. I have to get it because a lot of these bills are going somewhere else. I've overspent or whatever the situation may lie. Yeah, yeah. So I'm sorry that that you're frustrated, but this is also my life and I.
Speaker 2:You're just going to have to be mad yeah, yeah, you just shine a light on those the other times as well. Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's not like just me being picky and being the bully and the boss, it's like, no, sometimes I have to step my foot down, otherwise I'm not gonna push over or run over it. And if that's where you think this relationship is going to be, you have another thing coming, because otherwise I'm just gonna be miserable and at some point it's going to be too much and all, and so I very much so at this point, it's like we're dating, we're dating to marry, but I still want to take my time.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna rush into anything. Yeah, because I still need to see more, I still need to see change, I still need to see development. So if we, if you still, if we're still in year two, I, we're still Ricky's, you know, I mean, and we haven't learned each other, we haven't tried to try to see what, what each other likes, enjoys, and try to make adjustments in a relationship about that. That's the problem yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't, I'm I, I, I don't believe in divorce yeah, yeah so once I'm in it, I'm in it and I don't want to be stuck either. Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna make sure that I I you know everything yeah, exactly so. I was like I don't want to see no, no cliff. And then just willy nilly like bro, I see the clip there, but I'm still. Maybe I have a parasail.
Speaker 1:It's like nah, I see I need to hit the brakes in in hope, yeah, yeah yeah so, so I want to make sure the things that I see is that we are at least making challenges to overcome it. Yeah, and I think that she should think very much that same way.
Speaker 2:I mean people. I feel like at this age, that is the thing. Now I'm kind of going back and forth myself. I'm just like I don't know. It's like when life is moving, even though I don't be moving around too much, but like when things are in motion I feel like I can have fun and just like be around people or women that you know just like to are an addition to my life in a way, but more so on. Like you don't have much, you, you can't like get in. It's just like, um, I'm at this place right now like I don't even know. I feel like I want a wife, but also like, do I? I don't know. It's like it's. I'm kind of going back and forth with that in my head. I think I do, but also it's like the way people are nowadays. It just seems like a lot of people don't think in the way of all right, I'm going to be married to this person forever.
Speaker 1:I think. I mean I can't answer that. I mean I think that one well, well, yes, I can people do? Think that, like that, it's just that you also I mean, once you allow certain things, it's hard to reel it back in at some point yeah, like yeah, if you're allowing things for a couple years and then they run over you completely, then yeah, yeah, then it's always going to probably be that. Yeah, you can't, and you're five, just like, oh, what's something different now you switching up, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So so you got to be what your standards is, is what your boundaries is, and it very well be that, cause I and I'll speak directly to you is like some things that I feel like you, you shouldn't. You shouldn't have probably let somebody do.
Speaker 2:Oh no For a fact. No, that, that, that, um, that isn't why I'm saying all that. I definitely had to learn from that and grow from that type of stuff. Uh, being around certain women having being treated certain ways I didn't know I could, and then like allowing certain things or seeing a girl who's the prettiest girl I've ever seen in my life, and then you know, realize there's, there's a person behind that face.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I think the people showed you who they were. Oh for a fact, like I think, every relationship they showed from what I from outside looking in, showed you who they were.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely. I've thought about that plenty of times. Just, you know, when a relationship is over, then you kind of like assess the whole situation, assess myself, and then you kind of like assess the whole situation, assess myself, and then the responsibility of being tied up into something that could have been done on the first thing, which is like it's kind of hardening a shell a little bit. It's kind of like getting to the point of I'm at the point now where I like I don't know like it's I wouldn't even call it patience, it's just like a way of life in a way, if something just seems weird or off, like I'm not even entertaining it, like to the point where I can say, hey, hi, miss somebody, and then if she says, what's up, I'm done, like I'm out.
Speaker 1:I'm like that. I'm down to there Like you hired me, so she got to break you with absolute love. Hey, handsome, hey.
Speaker 2:That'll keep me around for a couple more minutes, you're on us.
Speaker 2:You're on the clock, so yeah, so she gotta absolutely be head over heels for you then no, not just that, it's just like just all that stuff, like kind of like what you said. It's like I I damn near have just spidey senses now, just anything Like anything. If, if you say you're going to call me tomorrow, even as a friend, like if you say you're going to call me tomorrow, no, no. If you say you're going to call me today, and then you went out with some people and you hit me back like our friendship just took a little toll.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, like it's down to that Now.
Speaker 2:It's down to that now. It's just like I just see how you, I just go straight off actions now, okay, like completely. So it's probably going to be difficult for me to get into another relationship. I don't see that even it really don't matter. Like now, I've been into situations where, like a girl was so pretty, a girl treated me so well and it's like I don't know what else.
Speaker 2:Like now going through those things yeah it's like like what else could be given to me that would kind of make me like allow certain things to to happen, and even going through those things, I realize what that does, where it can get to, where it can go, how bad it could be on year, this or month that yeah, you know, if I think that, if I was analyzing generically situation I think they probably one they weren't completely honest on how they felt in all their situations, because there are signs in the world I'm sure they saw to where they're like, hey, I need to stop and ask questions.
Speaker 1:And not only that, they probably didn't know how to play sidekick. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, like, oh, not psychic, that's yeah, yeah, or be your right hand you know, I mean for oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah and so yeah, cuz yeah, cuz there could have been a lot of things prevented if the communication was absolutely key yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, there was something. There's a bit of both, it's a bit of both, and then you know, just being completely honest, I wasn't like the perfect person in these relationships, I feel like yeah yeah, but I'm saying like I definitely could have been that just assessing myself.
Speaker 2:like I do understand that some things happened to where I gotta look at myself and realize like should I have even been in a relationship at that point of my life like of where I was in the certain uh mind state that I was in the certain decisions that I was making? Some of those things I shouldn't even have been in a relationship in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you went after what you wanted.
Speaker 2:I always do that there are signs, though, that I chose not to look at In any relationship that I've been in. Usually it's in the beginning, it's usually always some slight, some real slight, and then you see that yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you're like, no, she's pretty yeah. Or no, she said I'm sorry today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Just like those little things that you look at the other things, and then those things get bigger and bigger. But probably same with men, probably you know same exact thing. Um, but yeah, but now those, those, those, those senses are like extremely heightened now to where? Yeah it's, it's just kind of different, it's just like damn yeah I can. Literally I feel like I can just stop talking to anybody.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, yeah, it's like kind of weird yeah, I, I understand that because I mean I'm somewhere in there where I can see me fitting in that same bubble, but it's more how I'd look at it is there's. I have like a oh well mindset, hey, I messed up. Oh well, you know. Like, hey, it is what it is, it hurt. Yeah, of course I'm gonna feel it. I'm gonna think about it, but in the day, oh well yeah yeah, like, what are you gonna do? You're gonna be miserable for the rest of life.
Speaker 2:You gotta move on thanks yeah, yeah, have to stay in motion yeah, there's now.
Speaker 1:Learn from it and take that on, because there's great people out there still yeah, bro, that was something else.
Speaker 2:That, uh, that that kind of gets me through that to where it's and I'm acting like I'm just like dating all around the world.
Speaker 2:So I'm not doing that, but um, there is something to where you know the people that did you wrong or like the, or even yourself you know like after you, kind of which I'm still working on this but like forgiving people to like what they have done, or yourself of putting yourself in like certain situations or allowing certain things or certain things transpire to a certain point, to where it can be on your mind, and all that when you actively know that when you let that go, you give yourself room like for anything to happen like you give yourself room for like if somebody did you wrong, you forget that person. That weight is now lifted off your shoulders to where, like, you're lighter and on top of that, you have more room to um, to, to, to experience somebody else like, or to experience something that's that possibly is completely for you and you can actually open up your eyes and see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think there's, and that the greatest thing about men, because they also like it's hard to the day as a man, which which is true, but you, if you look in I feel like you're a certain type of man for sure, uh for sure yeah, but I think that even, even, even for well, I think that you're for sure, I totally agree.
Speaker 1:So I think we're probably Looking at it from a probably a privileged Perspective a little bit. But just what I was going to say is that, as a woman, good men Are kind of hard to come by, exactly, so it's like that's even scarier.
Speaker 1:To think that hey, somebody's Going to be loyal, somebody's going to be loyal, somebody's going to provide and care and not beat my ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. Actually there's a very limited supply. There's not a limited, I don't think there's a. As much as it is for men. A limited, a limited supply of women who wants a man, wants to be right and have that nuclear family. Now do they have the submission key to it and know how to be a?
Speaker 1:woman um, or a wife or yeah, have that femininity aspect and uh can follow guidance or leadership.
Speaker 1:I should say uh, that now that's a lot, that's a lot tougher, but that's if I'm putting myself in anybody's shoes. It's hard to follow somebody's decision when you want to make another one, but at the same time we're going to lean into what you want anyway. So when she was talking about dismissing, it's like, yeah, those are seldom cases to where it's like, yeah, I don't feel like doing this, and if you have a problem with it, it is what it is, because it's such a minute situation and these are rare occasions. So if you're like, hey, if he's saying, I, I know my man. That's why I was like, hey, I know my man. If he's not wanting to deal with it, then fine, I'll deal with it and that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Cause he asked the same thing yesterday, the same question, and she answered it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, okay, yeah, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, I'm glad we have the thing about is that at first I was questioning her, her, her ability to self reflect, but now it's like she, we just got to go through these phases for her to realize like, yeah, it's not actually a real issue here um and we can move on.
Speaker 1:It's going to be those so where she gets mad and then she comes back later and we talk about it as adults and then we get over it or get moved past it but yeah so, but I think, but long story short of all that is that definitely a guy in your case is that, yeah, we all gonna get effed, yeah, and screwed over, yeah, taken advantage of yeah, yeah, that's just one part about dating, but I think that there is more light in the end of the tunnel for a man than it is a woman I
Speaker 2:think yes, I also feel like. Again, it depends on who you are, but yeah, yeah that.
Speaker 1:That because I'm saying good man is just as short as supplies like how, how many, how many relationships, you know, to where they're doing. The man is doing the basics, right right right right yeah, yeah no, that's a fact.
Speaker 2:That's a fact. Everyone, every, usually every person that I have dated, there clearly was a difference between me and whoever she was dating before. If anything, it usually always worked in my favor of just how I am in general, and that does tell you a lot about the dating pool yeah, and that's when they come back to you like, damn, and that's what I was telling about our friend.
Speaker 1:It's like let her go, bruh, because, please, fast and expeditiously. Yes, yeah, but I was like she's gonna come back around because there's, there's not as short as you. It's gonna hurt. You see, her date people. But that guy, guy, he ain't you, and that's just a fact. Yeah. So let her go date and she's going to be back. If you love her, she's going to be back, but I can tell you she's not for you because it's better out there, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, now he's come to terms with it. It feels, like Of course, he's still salty about a lot of things, which is going to be the case, but at the same time, I was like you're finally there. You know, what I mean. Yeah, yeah, you're finally excited about dating opportunities, which you should have been. Yeah, none of these are wifey, but they're at least a breath a fresher, uh, a breath of fresh air yeah yeah, and you will find.
Speaker 1:Trust me, you're gonna find the find the one person for you that's gonna suit you for real, because you you probably probably already passed some of these girls by yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, there is a lot of women out there yeah, I'm even the people that you dated or or liked you do you? Do you think about it like? You know what I could have gave um her more of a chance.
Speaker 1:I should have did that uh, girls that I've like even liked or even talked to for a little bit, like you know what. She's actually a good person and I should have I should have given her more of a chance.
Speaker 2:I should have.
Speaker 1:Yeah pursued that a lot harder. Have pursued that a lot harder.
Speaker 2:I think I've pursued everything that I wanted to pursue.
Speaker 1:Even the person who you said you was on the phone with for hours. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I you talking about.
Speaker 1:Nah who you talking about.
Speaker 2:The person that lives in.
Speaker 1:Atlantalanta. Oh, uh-huh, okay with with.
Speaker 2:That had not been a good option for you um I don't know, I don't, I don't, I'm not sure, I'm not sure I'm not sure I mean that it's. It's more of like a cool thing, not necessarily like a a spark, oh okay but I mean, I never even, like, had a chance to even like sit down and talk for real oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I thought she liked you for a second. I think she did. Yeah, I think so too yeah, yeah, that was something I didn't really know that used to be one of my close friends, so I she never told me, but I can, I know how she moves uh-huh, no, I didn't, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, but she definitely, she's definitely saying yeah, but she's a good person for real yeah, yeah you're just saying, like if there was anyone that I just like I was just like along those aspects.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like nothing for real, for real but it's like brad, she's actually coming down. She was solid, that's your day oh, uh, yeah, I can I can think of a couple names, yeah yeah, I think still I usually have.
Speaker 2:if there was something that I wanted like in that aspect, like that far of like I could see this girl being my girl, like actually getting to that point, usually I've, I've tried to to do that, to get to that point. But to answer your question about going back, or just like how you said, like with him she's gonna come back and I don't know, I don't know with any of them, maybe maybe I don't know, I don't know, I don't know with any of them. Maybe maybe I don't know, I don't know, that's kind of hard to say.
Speaker 2:Would you re-date?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 4:Oh right right right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Never mind, never mind, never mind.
Speaker 1:So no, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can give honest feedback of what, like, if there was, if I was to be able to single single again, the answer would be no, because I um, I don't even know where I would begin with the previous people that I've been in a relationship with yeah, so much more people have moved on yeah, yeah yeah, with their lives. Like other people are married now, yeah, yeah, so yeah, every my relationship would have to become poorly. There would be you know what I mean so so the.
Speaker 1:The quick answer is no, yeah yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 2:That's. The only reason I said uh, I don't know was just because maybe like some, some person like sprinkled out within there, but usually everybody kind of like my thing is not even necessarily just them, but it's like their environment and choices of who they hang around in there, multiple people like how they move, yeah. Yeah, it's just like I don't know if I want that even if you're cool like you're going to be a product of who you talk to.
Speaker 2:That's one of the main things is like, if we're mad at each other, who's going to have the most influence on you? It's like your environment, the people that talk that out. If you got, yes, women all around you which are a couple, relationships that I have just just yes people.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't think that'll ever help anything yeah, like you need somebody, not necessarily a no man, but yeah, somebody that that can look at the us factor versus more of my homie or my girl when it comes to a building relationship yeah, yeah, because if I'm always on your side. You probably like dog a woman out or something not not necessarily you, but just like my homies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, yeah, I think our friends do a good job of checking each other when we're tripping, even when we don't want to hear it, because one even I know I don't can't think of running in my friends that don't do it, but but maybe one or two, but I got enough that do. And if you love somebody, you don't want to see nobody just completely self-destruct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like yeah, like what you, what you want, you know, like somebody, we got to say something yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now, whatever the explanation you give is like all right, he's delusional, whatever. You know what I mean I at least said something not for a fact.
Speaker 2:That's definitely important. I I wish I saw that more in women's relationships I I totally agree yeah, it's usually like girl and it's always the the quote of the day. He was crazy and but but there are crazy niggas out there absolutely. I've heard stories about men from women. I'd never even thought I would hear. But yeah usually still, even if they are like kind of okay me and yeah it's tagged as our girl. He was crazy he did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody's not gonna handle everything perfectly and we're gonna slip up. We got emotions too, yeah yeah, yeah so anybody could be crazy at any moment. Thanks, yeah, yeah, and it's. That's up to the other person's interpretation did he choke you. Yeah, like yeah, yeah, right, did he try to run you off the road? Now, that's crazy yeah but him calling you 10 times because he's trying to hear from you. I think that's just a more emotional thing yeah yeah, yeah absolutely yeah, yeah, I was like now.
Speaker 1:He still stayed within his boundaries even though y'all broke up, but he just want to hear from you. It's like, yeah, I can see where that could be, you know, on the grade line. But, he didn't. You know he. It's not like he broke down your door. Yeah. Yeah, did he pull up to your house unannounced? I don't find that crazy, I don't Me personally. Pull up to I don't your house unannounced when y'all broke up. I don't find that crazy.
Speaker 2:That part of the story. Yeah, it depends where that story goes, yeah.
Speaker 1:He knocked his door and you didn't answer. You didn't answer and he left.
Speaker 2:Oh, and he left.
Speaker 1:Now if he's standing on the top of the tree Trying to peek through the blinds?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy, I heard about it.
Speaker 1:This one girl said she standing on the top of the tree trying to peek through the blinds. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I heard about it. Yeah, yeah, this one girl said this. She was. She lived on the second floor. She said this man climbed the ladder on the outside and tried to get in through the window. Yeah, yeah, what the yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean that's scary, of course it is what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if? What if one of your girls did that? Is that is that scary like that's just to listen, no, no seriously. It's like the relationships yeah, if somebody.
Speaker 2:First of all, all of them is it scary?
Speaker 1:is what I'm saying? Are you going to be scared?
Speaker 2:if I'm on the second floor and I see her like this in the window next to the refrigerator.
Speaker 1:You ain't gonna be scared for real. Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, like no she really loves me.
Speaker 2:She really loves me, you know, you are no, I'm gonna be like I will think she really loves me for sure, but also like dang girl, you just climbed the ladder to, to, to to try to get in my. No, that's definitely I wouldn't know what to do.
Speaker 1:It is crazy but I you ain't gonna be scared. That's what I'm saying yeah okay maybe in that moment.
Speaker 2:I maybe in that moment because I'm conscious and I know that if she tries some shit, I'm stronger than her, so I can just pin her down or something, but once she leaves and it's quiet, I'm going to be like oh shit, I'll be like I can't go to sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, steven, you didn't answer my text messages.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, Everything. I would be heightened Like if I didn't. I don't want to answer this call, but should I? Yeah, yeah, no, that's, that's crazy, no, no we're getting in.
Speaker 1:What I mean this is over beyond. Yeah. But I was watching things a couple months ago. It was like the youtube, um, like murder files, whatever. And it was this guy, this guy, this lady.
Speaker 1:She called the police because she found her ex-boyfriend Keys in her house. Yeah, yeah. And then she called the police. She runs to the bathroom and then she's like I need the police here. My boyfriend's here somewhere in the house. I found Keys in my room, I don't know where he's at, and you know my mom, dad and little brother's here somewhere in the house. I found his keys in my room, I don't know where he's at, my mom, dad and little brother's here. So he winds up, of course, beating the house. He kills her family, yes, while she's on the phone with the police, so you hear it, all the gunshots and everything. What the fuck? Yeah. Then he breaks down the door and he's like look what you made me do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she somehow gets out the house and runs, and then that's when the police come and eventually he was on the run for a while, uh, but nonetheless, that's another part of insanity that you know, we can't comprehend oh my god, how is that even possible?
Speaker 2:but that's scary man girls really do be going through this yeah, that's scary, like you know, as a man, it's like you see, a like, all right, it's one of us. Yeah, yeah, but like as a woman, yeah, yeah, that's like that's like a giant at the door and you know for a fact.
Speaker 1:Hey bro, I'm not gonna make it yeah, yeah, oh my god, yeah, yeah, it's different, and and he has a gun too.
Speaker 2:You know and he cuts your family.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So you hear the gunshots. Pow, pow pow pow pow yeah all over the house and then he's like, yeah, what do you want me to? Do yeah yeah, it's already done. What do? You want me to do? You know what? The fuck? Yeah, absolutely insane. Oh, that's a.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, it's like that's, you know. So that's what I mean. Of course, there's only 1% of men like that. That's killing your whole family. But there's another part of domestic violence, and that's prevalent. Loyalty is even harder to find. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Protective providers stand up is minimal too. So, when you have individuals. That's where I bring my confidence and security. As I grow up as a man, it's like, hey man, this Because for me I'm loyal when I'm not a cheater. But a part of that is I like my peace. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I've talked about it a ton. I just like peace at the end of the day. I don't want to come home with strife, I can't. I like peace in my mind, yeah. I don't like the things of living in guilt yeah, because that's overbearing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to start feeling bad and to hide and conceal things. My piece is just too much. It's too important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I completely agree with that. That shit fucks me up. You got to think too much Every time I've lied about anything. Usually that shit is playing in the back of my head and then you got to be on 10 when anything is close to that lie. So like, make sure this lie doesn't go certain. It's too much.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Like, yeah, I can lie solidly, but yeah, I can't Eventually. I'm a person, person I'm gonna slip up yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna always remember like damn I need to lie about this instance you know, what I mean yeah, yeah, so, yeah because yeah, so it's no important living in that world, yeah no I can't, I literally cannot do that I saw myself in certain moments.
Speaker 2:I'm like bro did you not about that life bro? You're really not. You're not, bro, you could. Yeah, this is just not my life, but yeah, this was a good, good episode. Yeah, yeah, oh shit, yeah, this is the longest one.
Speaker 1:Huh, yeah, exactly. Well, this is um two for the culture there we go. Uh, we love y'all. We'll be back, peace.