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Two for the Culture
Freedom vs. Responsibility
And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante, I'm Steve Ray. Yes, sir, we're back. How you feeling, feeling good?
Speaker 2:man Feeling good what happened?
Speaker 1:I think it's just same old, same old. Now we're on the schedule now. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, and there's something significant changing, went out this weekend again, yeah, went to Germantown pub.
Speaker 2:this time I didn't know that was the black place, because in germantown it seems like I don't know it's gentrified. That's what it is okay well yeah, I didn't. I walked in. I was like the waitress first of all, the waitresses, the wait the bartenders.
Speaker 1:Being black is automatic, like oh, this is a blacklist yeah, yeah so yeah, and seeing like a black staff yeah, I mean totally different yeah, and you know, it's kind of like who you know type of thing is like black people know black people, white people know white people, mm-hmm. So it's just kind of how it goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was dope, that was dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's cool, same old, same old, working all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's a much different, you know. Unless there's something tragic happening, Well, I do have family reunion in a couple weeks, so maybe we'll come back with, you know, something new.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, working relationship, taking care of people, the family reunion, is it like a big one?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of those summer joints. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a pretty big event. You know, my family's ancestry is from New Orleans. Oh, yeah, yeah, so it'll be down there. Mm-hmm, that's cool, but I did want to get straight into a game, I think, but I did want to get straight into a game.
Speaker 2:I think you'll find it okay yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So this one is kishi my no. Okay, um, yeah, so this one is um the top five countries attracted to american women, okay you know, bro, all your shit is countries. I keep telling you my, my geographical sense is yeah and yeah, and keep in mind this is an easier one medica yeah, yeah, you want to come to America, exactly so American yeah so these are guessable. At least you know it's not one country on this list is like oh, I was never going to think of that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can see that. All right, so, but these are. You know the particular order, but you can name three strikes.
Speaker 2:You're out and yeah top five, top top five, uh uh uh. Countries that are attracted to american women. Yes, um.
Speaker 1:All right, france. France is number four france is number four okay, so keep on going on that thing. When you think of france, what other country you think of? When you think of France, what other country do you think of? Great Britain? No, no, that's strike one, think of another. Now, france and this other country are like you can confuse them. Both People think. Italy. Exactly. Yeah, that's number one, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Really Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep. So now you got one and four. Now no more Europe is on this one. So there's the biggest country in South America I'm really kind of giving you hints Mexico. That's North America, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:You got BBLs. What does BBL? Bbl stand for brazil. Yeah, there you go okay, I was the. I was kind of thinking brazil, all right and I'm gonna give you the reason why these are, these are, and I'm gonna stem a question off of that all right, so now we got one country in africa and one company, one country in uh asia.
Speaker 1:All right, so this one. I'm gonna give you the reason why, uh, cultural fact. Well, I'll give you the american women represent a different type of feminine, a more assertive independence, which intrigues these men. I guess I should have really gave you those guesses. And, and this is the country in Asia, we went to war Exactly. So that's number three, okay.
Speaker 1:Now this is kind of funny a little bit. The reason why this is number five American women are often viewed as successful, ambitious and strong. American women are often viewed as successful, ambitious and strong. Many of these men admire those traits and also seek US connection for education, family opportunity. So they're pretty much using American women right and this is in Africa blank scammer.
Speaker 2:Nigeria exactly.
Speaker 3:Oh my god oh my god, yeah, exactly, oh my god all right yeah yeah, so that's fucked up, yeah yeah, and I definitely knew what it was.
Speaker 1:I've heard that many, many times exactly uh, I mean, but yeah, so even you know, chat dbt is like brad they be using these hoes out here oh my god yeah, so.
Speaker 1:So italy, ital, italian men are often intrigued by American women's confidence, openness and independence. Uh-huh, brazil. American women are often seen as exotic and adventurous. Okay, and we talked about Japan, france. There's long been mutual attraction between America and the French. French men often see America's women as stylish, open-minded and intellectually curious. Yep, so yeah. But the Japan one makes sense. It's more assertive and independent, which intrigues some Japanese men.
Speaker 2:Which I guess they like that. I said France because I saw a lot of photos of French women who don't shave their armpits so I thought maybe like they wanted somebody who does okay, yeah, so yeah understood, it worked yeah yeah, does that list.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like there should have been others on that list?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know because you know I'm in america so if anything, I kind of, I guess, like them, look at women in different countries. It's just like foreign. You could just see the beauty in a foreign woman. So I I wouldn't. I wouldn't even know what type for real that they liked. You know there's many different types of women here. I didn't know which type they were going for. Maybe y'all in Miami.
Speaker 1:The Nigerian one made the most sense because they're seeking citizenship. Yeah, yeah. And the Mexican. They're so close to the border I could see that one has been a top one. That's why I'm kind of like not really I'm a little surprised not seeing that uh-huh. Uh, because just by nature, or canadian, but I guess it was kind of like outruling that the neighboring countries a little bit yeah, damn-hmm, damn, okay, no, this is though, this though yeah since you're doing it now, I'll do mine, okay thank you all right, let's see.
Speaker 2:Alright, so it's literally on my laptop so don't look at it. All right, so the top five grossing black movies in the 90s uh top five grossing black movies.
Speaker 1:You got three strikes okay, um, I would say um menace to society yes, okay, that's number three all right, I'll say Friday no, okay, that's actually a little shocking, because that was.
Speaker 2:Was that in the 90s? I would think it is.
Speaker 1:Okay, probably in the 99, man.
Speaker 2:I would say what's the one with Tupac and Janet Jackson? Poetic Justice, yes, no, wow, this top five, though, so this is like mass mass appeal, right, huh.
Speaker 1:And what can I get a hint on?
Speaker 2:what constitutes like a black movie, like yeah, see that that was my thing, but uh, just mainly like a classic black film okay, yeah, so if I so like probably. Justice was a great choice yeah, okay, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I need to stay along on that theme. Yes, like it's like what one of them.
Speaker 2:One of them is kind of like out of it.
Speaker 1:Okay, because as long as I was like brad, like it has a bunch of black cast right but it's like like men in black or some exactly I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2:yeah, one of them is a little bit outside of it, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm going to need a little bit. I can name some stuff. Do they have generational actors like Will. Smith, what's the movie with Eddie Murphy when he's like an African prince?
Speaker 2:Oh, that was a good one, but no, I don't think that's on there?
Speaker 1:Wow, Is there any Eddie Murphy movies on there? Like it's not, like what's the joint where he's big and he turns skinny when he drinks a potion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's wrong too. I don't know if this list I mean this is what says. Highest grossing black movies in the 1990s was yep. Follow closely so the first one is boys in the hood okay the second one is malcolm x. That's what I was like.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit out okay, you said generational actors oh, okay, I got so yeah it's that one minister, society.
Speaker 2:What's Love Got To Do With it?
Speaker 1:That is a damn lie. No, no, no, what's Love. Oh yeah, now I'm tripping.
Speaker 2:In 93, I'm tripping, yeah, I'm tripping, and Boomerang.
Speaker 1:Boomerang, yeah, that Poetic Gotta be higher than that.
Speaker 2:You know what's Love Got To Do With.
Speaker 1:No, that's the Tina Turner, joint, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I can see it.
Speaker 1:Because that still comes on now.
Speaker 2:Boomerang was funny, but when was poetic justice? Poetic justice hats? Yeah, because Tupac was only popping for like a couple years and it was in the 90s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like a juice. I'm thinking brown sugar like loving basketball, not brown sugar. Loving basketball always comes to my head oh my God. Yeah, I knew I was going to, because Menace to Sisters. No, it was Boys in the Hood that was critically acclaimed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was the one I was really thinking about. Yeah. Boys in the Hood I thought you was going to get that one. Oh well, Okay. Oh yeah, Did you hear about something that happened today? What is that? I'm going to watch out with the thing.
Speaker 1:But you like touched it.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, but so what happened today was did you hear about the Idaho sniper?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't hear about that.
Speaker 2:Right so there was a guy and I forgot his age. He had to be like kind of young, this man. He lit a fire, like on some mountain or something, and the firefighters came to put it out, and while the firefighters were there I think it was a number of them there and he literally set himself up like posted up and sniped the firefighters oh wow yeah while they were trying to do it, and then he killed two of them and injured one of them. And then the guy's granddad said that he applied to be a firefighter and he didn't get in because he wasn't tall enough so how tall you think it was five eight.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, it was five eight okay, yeah uh I guess he got mad and then they found him with the gun and he was dead, so I guess he shot himself yeah, someone's wrong him for that, kill him.
Speaker 1:You know why he killed himself. And two is why did you kill some, some firemen?
Speaker 2:because you didn't get in I don't know, but I mean, how else does it add up for?
Speaker 1:you, I mean, I mean, I'm not saying like a conspiracy is deeper than that, but I'm just saying like you really really one. He didn't get in because his height he got. He didn't get in because he was thrown off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, because, yeah, even bad vibes, yeah, absolutely like yeah, you're not worthy to put on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're willing to kill somebody over that, then you're thrown off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the height was probably an excuse to get rid of his ass.
Speaker 2:I just see him in his interview.
Speaker 1:Let him burn pass on this guy. Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't hear about that. When did this happen today?
Speaker 2:today, yeah, earlier today oh, wow I think earlier today or yesterday, and they already got an explanation of the reason why. I mean, I guess he did, yeah, yeah yeah, so I guess they talked to his granddaddy or something.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, and why? How is they ever going to trace it back to him? You know?
Speaker 2:what I mean why did he?
Speaker 1:it didn't seem like he had to kill himself, right?
Speaker 2:I I mean you sniping people, I mean I don know, I would assume that they might find him.
Speaker 1:I guess, I'm just saying that's very difficult to trace back to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you say sniper that's like a long-ass distance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you get sniped, then he's running in the woods and then how do you really trace that back to him? I feel like there's some ways.
Speaker 2:I I mean yeah there is some ways, but if you're really 50 50, chance.
Speaker 1:I mean he's throwed off. So I'm sure he probably used his own bullets so you could trace that back to him eventually. Yeah, but uh, I'm just saying he's just. I mean he's this is throwed off, individual right. Yeah, yeah, because I'm just saying he could have probably got away with that it sounds like it yeah yeah, it sounds like maybe he wasn't as far as it sounds like in my head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean he's he's, I mean he's sniping them and they don't know where he's come from. And these ain't police officers. It's not like they got guns.
Speaker 2:They gotta go back to where they came from, to, I would assume as soon as guy number one dies it's like click the button. I guess I would assume there's a button in the fire truck to call the police. Maybe. Yeah. I mean I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's a high intense situation. So he could have.
Speaker 1:Maybe he could have got away with it. Yeah, but he didn't even try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like damn, that was fucked up. Like that was fucked up. Let me just end it. Yeah, you say that after you drop one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you say that.
Speaker 2:after you drop one, yeah you know, oh yeah, yeah, it was probably the third one that he just like all right, he's running away trying to Anyway.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's just hella, throw it off behavior. Obviously, I don't even need to state that point. Yeah, no, it's weird to state that point, yeah, yeah. So on top of recent news there was a lady who was owned her own restaurant here, hmm, but she worked so hard and long she finally took a couple days off and then she went to sleep and never woke up I saw that, yeah, wow yeah that's.
Speaker 2:That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:It's fucked up though right, I mean totally, it just got, it just kept. Uh, put me down a whole like rabbit hole of just thinking like what if we was in like back in the day, like back in the day day like the 1600s? It's like not even slavery, but like as an indian like how much work are they putting in?
Speaker 2:wow, what's the difference between? I mean, I'm just like look at natural.
Speaker 1:It just got me thinking. Just like a natural way of living yeah of how you hunt, kill and then you know you play or whatever they do yeah and and how much hours are they putting in? Because I feel like today's day is like legitimately slave culture we have everything we need, but we work so hard, yeah, we put in so many amount of hours, we stress out so much that this it had to feel a lot especially in my mind easier than than then, I mean like it seemed easier than then, like you hunt your food and then you come home.
Speaker 1:Of course we don't have. We don't have to worry about starvation like back in the day does yeah and I think that's really the where we kind of have the advantage, because sometimes you don't know when your meals are coming. Yeah, but now I was like dang, we're just slaving away and we're killing ourselves.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't compare it to slavery. I think they did way more. But, like the, the, the people of the land, yeah, I don't think it even amounts close to the amount of work just because, like you have to clock in at a certain time, like her, she was running a business. Right, that's totally different. That's like day in, day out, if I'm hunting, I go and kill this bear or whatever, I bring it back home, we chilling for days. Maybe even you don't, you don't get it every single day. So it's like time goes by and I don't think was like running from one one land to the other, probably walking or whatever, and every single day cooking and the heat and the steam and the I don't know. That's when you like try to think about it. I see what you're saying. It's like uh, yeah, and I think I read in there that like she died of quote like the, the hustle culture. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that is wild, that is wild. And.
Speaker 2:I do. I see that a lot of people, but I hear a lot from people, and something I never really agree with was like this, this sleep, I mean this, this theory of like, no sleep, like I don't get that, like I've anytime I've been in pain, anytime I've had anything going on with my body that just needs to be improved, or like a muscle, whatever the fuck. Soreness from working out sleep is the only thing that could get me right every single time. So it's gotta destroy you like literally from the inside, and I read somewhere that when you don't sleep like that, your brain eats itself. So after a while you're not even quick to make decisions.
Speaker 1:Make decisions yeah.
Speaker 2:Just react on your feet and stuff like that, like your cognitive ability, is declining. Yeah, I heard that if you sleep for five hours, that's equivalent to like going out and having a drunk night. So like you wake up, the same, the same grogginess, the same, all that shit I don't know about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do both. I do the five hours on a weekly basis. Just because when I get off of Uber and Saturday I have church, on Sunday I can definitely say it. Yeah it's definitely not the equivalent of having a drunk night out.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But maybe if it's constant, like over a period of time, because then I try to make up for it the following Sunday.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, period of time, because then I try to make up for it the following sunday, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, so, um, yeah, I don't. Yeah, I, I did disagree, at least from that one day. Now, maybe, if it's like over a month's period, like where you only get five hours of sleep, right, yeah, I can understand. I can understand that maybe a little bit more, but no, I mean, sleep is very important and who's this? And I wonder. It's like so, is she? Because I don't know and I'm asking you, like as if you know, but how many hours is she putting in?
Speaker 2:I don't know Specifically those people who run the restaurants not work there, but like who run them, hoes they be there all fucking day. Yeah, like really cooking. Like to me that's like working out from point a to point b throughout the day and if you're not overseeing the restaurant and you're like actually in it, you gotta be overworking yourself, like after a certain amount of time and then then to even like to have to pick up a business off of the ground like bro, you gotta be going ham and in a business like that, like versus, like an e-commerce, or even a clothing store or I don't know whatever else.
Speaker 2:That shit sounds like I'm working out all day, so that's just very tragic because of how much success that she was, uh, that you know, to the point that she's gotten to which a lot 90 of people haven't, uh in terms of their career, or that they're, they're following their dreams and wanting to do certain things. So that's very, very sad. Do you know how old she was?
Speaker 1:I don't seem kind of young yeah, but I just had a cousin that passed away in the sleep, I don't know where what, yeah, I know. And he was like in his 40s, like out of nowhere, isn't you know. He was healthy and just like out of nowhere, isn't you know he was healthy and just went to sleep and didn't wake up that's scary as hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, I mean that's kind of the best way to go oh my god yeah, yeah that's even more effective yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like, how do you like? You know, I mean, how do you? That's what I'm like is is that because people are in pain and just not saying anything? Yeah yeah, cuz like if she's, she's so tired and she just doesn't wake up, it's like your body. How does it shut down like that? You know? I mean, I just don't understand that concept. It just doesn't make any sense I do.
Speaker 2:I wish I wish we were more advanced. We probably are. We just don't have access to it. But like actually seeing what's going on in the inside, versus like after something's wrong with you, then you treat it. Yeah, I want that thing where, like it's got a, it goes to your arteries mm-hmm it's like some blue, blue dye, some shit.
Speaker 2:It goes all the way through your arteries and then there's like an x-ray or some shit and you can see if your arteries are clogged anywhere yeah, yeah, but I mean I feel like that should be manifesting this itself in a lot of areas you know what I mean like if my arteries are clogged, like my hand should be numb.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, you know what I'm saying it don't be like that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I feel like it should, oh yeah for sure, because, yeah, we would never know yeah, because people be like you know I got a headache and then yeah, and constantly, like my hair hurts, you know, and people say those things as if it's normal, like your head's supposed to be hurting all the damn time. So that's why we told me I was like bruh, you need to get checked out because there's something you're doing wrong, whether you're eating the wrong thing or whatever, are you taking pills you need?
Speaker 1:that needs to be kind of figured out if your stomach's hurting all the damn time yeah that ain't a good sign right like and I'm a big dude, my head don't if my head be hurting constantly. I'm looking into it you know what I mean. Yeah, my head don't be hurting like that now. Yeah, I remember I was getting like these head tremors like my head was shaking like this yeah, yeah. And then I'm like what is going on, like I'm looking at this why is that funny? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, no I'm not tripping, I'm just wondering why that funny. But yeah, yeah, I'm like. Yeah, I'm just like shaking, like like head trimming and then so, so.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking up online just searching things, because I'm the type of person I'm gonna read information. It's not always going to be that, you know. I'm just oh, I found the one thing and I'm gonna follow this advice. That happens sometimes, but it has to make sense in my head. Yeah, like okay, I should to that like this. The thing what it was saying was you, um, because of all um, the bluetooth, audio and stuff like that. This is just what I'm reading when I talk about head tremors and you need to actually do grounding techniques take your shoes off and walk in the grass I saw you
Speaker 2:do that okay, yeah, yeah oh wow, yeah, yeah, it does do something yeah and so.
Speaker 1:So what I noticed and what made sense to me is that with my headphones I put on, and then also when I'm going to work, I had the bluetooth headset set up the whole time. So I'm constantly getting that that, whatever radiation- or wave thing.
Speaker 1:And I was like, okay, I didn't even look up Bluetooth stuff. It was just saying that and I was like that's the issue, because I just started this job and I've been on that Bluetooth headset so eight, nine hours out of the day on top of my headphones. You can't have a plug or something. That's what I started doing. I started plucking it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and so I haven't had those head trimmers. Damn yeah, brad, we be fucked up, don't even know it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was like okay, I was like they, you know, it wasn't the information that I just, you know, put in the uh, I just said head trimmers, and then I start reading it. And then I went to a YouTube page. He necessarily didn't talk about this, but then I was like let me see what the comments and see what people say about that. You know the video. And then he's like shoot this person's. Like my husband was having head tremors, he started doing grounding and walking in the grass and then, you know, because of whatever, and I was like dang, I have been using a lot of bluetooth, that actually makes sense. And then when I did the grounding stuff, it felt much better, wow, so it's just like little things, little techniques that we don't even think about. Yeah, and what we actually need and that's what really talked about the indian and natural way of life of just things of like are we actually working too much?
Speaker 1:and also the thing about when I'm talking about slave. So there's the slave concept of actually getting whipped, but you also have the indentured servitude. Are you more familiar about indentured servitude? Uh, explain it Well so it's pretty.
Speaker 1:So the first really time I really heard about it was like in the Bible when, um, I'm gonna say the names but they're gonna be completely wrong. When Abraham worked for I'm saying the name's wrong but worked to get pursued Sarah as a wife, the father was like, if you work for me for a certain amount of years, you can have my daughter. So he worked for him to marry this woman One that's a whole, nother separate conversation, like picture working for a man for five years just to marry somebody. You know what I mean. Yeah, that's love. Is it absolutely you gonna who? You don't know her, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, adding up to like he really knew the girl I mean, but I'm just saying, but that's love, that's dedication, that's one that's drive, commitment I'll give you that that's I mean you. You work for the things you want, correct? Yeah I mean yeah, yeah. So if you see, if you say eyes to somebody picture, I mean I've seen you do it. So yeah, yeah, back in the day when that person you really want to pursue how much you? Wanted for her what you did to pursue her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, over five years, though you know what I mean yeah, right so. So, regardless of whatever you say, it wasn't like if, if that didn't work out, you ain't divorcing nobody. I slaved for you, yeah, for five years, yeah, yeah, so that's a different type of love, but besides that, that was we could put a pin on the appeal in that whole thing, but yeah. So the indifferent district servitude is you work for a certain amount of time to pay somebody off okay, yeah and and so with we're in such a debt society, that's that's that's essentially what we're.
Speaker 1:We're working to pay off something that they loaned us to, right? So so that was back in the day, that was slavery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you had, you had um willing slavery and you have like, actually right oppressed slavery uh, so it's, and it's always interesting to me and you know, something I may get killed for is how I don't now that I get older, I don't really feel bad for homeless people as much as I used to all right, hardly ever because I feel like they're freer than us you, I was, I was, I thought you were going a certain way, but then you went yeah, yeah, yeah, completely.
Speaker 2:Uh, what do you mean? Yeah, they're, they're definitely free, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't have bills, they don't have an obligation, right, they do things on their own accord, like heroin, exactly. Yeah, they do it because they love that shit, like I mean, yeah, yeah yeah. They collect money by whatever means Uh-huh, and they do what they love and have no obligation to anybody but themselves. Mm-hmm. And move freely. Yeah, that is way freer than us. We have responsibility. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:We have set things that we owe to people, that we make sure that other people have, and we have our own self-governance of what we're supposed to be. Yeah, it's going to sound bad, but they're a failed society. They don't have a. I mean yeah, yeah, yeah. So they don't have a feeling of yeah, but so they don't have a feeling of needing to do better for others yeah, well maybe that's there.
Speaker 2:They just don't act on it. I mean for the most part yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they were like I need to get myself together. I'm sure there's a level to that.
Speaker 2:I'm sure, but they don't give a damn oh no they yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not. There's a level to that, but they don't give a damn.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm not in their mind, but that's definitely the feeling I get. Yeah, I feel like at some point, how about you not?
Speaker 1:giving them money. You know what I mean. Like how you mad at me. Like, dang, I owe you this. You know what I mean. Like you, my homie.
Speaker 2:You ever think they like if they're outside? Of walmart or some, you know like what. If they go in to um to pee or something like in the bathroom and they look in the mirror and they're like I really got to get my together, do you think that's ever okay?
Speaker 1:it's gotta be for someone.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah some of them may, yeah, yeah, you talking about the ones who live in god.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but but that goes. Yeah, we I'm enjoying the conversation, but that's just going off of just like free freedom yeah and we, when you're in debt society, we don't have that free freedom. There's people that we owe, that we have to work for to pay them off. You know. There's people that we have responsibly to to make sure they're taken care of, and that's just a form of indenture servitude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's the way of life on earth, for real, and so I'm getting somewhere with this.
Speaker 1:So it brings me on about the lady rest in peace of she's work. We're all in a rat race, working for something, she, I'm sure, in her mind. I don't want to speak for rest in peace, but there's the idea of if I'm a business owner, I'm, I'm free, I make these choices.
Speaker 2:But how are you free? I feel like you're more.
Speaker 1:Because you're responsible. Nobody's telling you what to do. You have the ownership. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the freedom part of it I don't think it's.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's much worse.
Speaker 1:I mean it's more stressful, but you gotta pay the bill for the building.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta pay the workers. That's you gotta you.
Speaker 1:So you're yeah, exactly, but that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying to when people pursue ownership, why do you think they do that? What do you think the reasons why?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, so it's, it's more control of the situation. Exactly yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:So there's a freedom level to that, yeah and so. But to your point, which I agree, is that now you're more in debt to, like you said, the building, the worker. Yeah, you're still on top of your regular obligations, of your family, right? So it's like, you see, the one percent, literally the top one percent, are are it should be like slash, luckiest men alive, you know, because you you're at that point of where you're free and you also have and I'm sure that's stressed the hell out, but you also have the income capacity to do whatever you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, for sure that's. That's, I think, what everyone strives for. That's why I don't like um, I don't know. I I will continue to gear toward more information on things that can scale, versus like set things in terms of like jobs and stuff. I mean, I love my job. Uh, I appreciate them for giving me that paycheck every month, thank you.
Speaker 2:But um, yeah, just like things that scale you know I'm saying like you, you can't, you can't really scale that much in the job, because what you work here, you work here for a year, you get a raise, you just bump up just a little bit for real. But entrepreneurs and all that shit, like they'll take it of course, like I'm in the social media space, so I've seen this over and over and over and over again. Right, somebody starts off. It's 50 cents this month, next month, 100, three years from now they're making a hundred thousand a month yeah and doing like you're saying.
Speaker 2:It's just like, depending on who they are, uh, a lot of freedom, a lot, a lot, a lot a lot of freedom in there. It's a total, total different lifestyle of having to, like, really bust your ass every single day. And I mean you have to bust your ass to get to a certain point. But it ain't the same thing as like working overtime at this warehouse because you gotta pay off a car note or you know.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know it. It just because I mean, when it's scary to think that you work so hard that you never wake up again. Oh, my god, yeah, yeah and and I think we're oversimplifying the situation because I'm sure there had to be health-wise- wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I mean god can call us home for any time, any reason. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean so that.
Speaker 1:So that's the real thing. But you know, I just look at that and how shocking that is and it's like, bro, what, what are we doing to ourselves? Yeah, yeah, and it's. I'm always going to be a person self-reflecting like, ultimately, what do I want? What do I want for myself, my family, what are my goals and how, you know, what is the healthiest way to get there? Yeah, and that's kind of where I'm at now.
Speaker 1:I'm stuck in some of my decisions you know like yeah because you know like for my, you have two cars once because you know for well, they're both for uber. But the idea was to have was when I got in a car accident for the expedition, how much I was spending on rent, rental costs. I was like I could have leased a another vehicle and that could have been my assurance policy, and I could have had that. Now, since I have a real job, I do uber less. So now I'm stuck in that decision. That decision I made, you know, which seemed like a good decision. I mean a good decision at the time, but not so much now that I have an obligation 40 hours a week to something else. Um, yeah, so it, you know. It always things you know just has me questioning the world, because I'm always going about the rabbit hole of how we should actually be doing things and sometimes the simple answer is the best. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like getting your sleep. Yeah, stop stressing over things. Being little debt is possible. All those sound easy. Yeah, until life hits you, until you know. Yeah, until your daughter needs something no, and you can't tell. It's harder to say no, yeah, yeah. So you're gonna work harder for that. My grandmother needs something, my girlfriend needs something yeah, you want to elevate in general?
Speaker 1:yeah yeah, you always want to see them happy, yeah, and so it's always an add-on to things to where it's like dang, yeah, I'm gonna be literally working for it. Yeah, by that, you don't help the glider. Yeah, he, he always gonna need something. So it's like it's the part of you wants to say no, but a part of you feels like you can't really you know, yeah, everybody's like, yeah, it's, it's a tough thing.
Speaker 2:I really wonder how. I don't know if it was ever different, though I don't think it ever was, cause like people was working hard as hell way back then. I would assume I would assume by like the stories that I've read, like in the bible and all that stuff, like people like saying working hard it's. That means something like it's not just kind of like just there, yeah.
Speaker 1:So so picture if there was more self-care though yeah, picture, picture, you know, your baby mother saying I know this ain't a real, I'm just giving you, uh, just a scenario saying hey, I need rent money and or we're gonna be out on the street, oh shit and I need, I need 500, but all that's all you got. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to have to give that up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Give that up, yeah. So you're putting yourself in a detriment in order to take care of other people. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's life, yeah, yeah, and definitely double that for a man oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's just like it's always a constant of just life happening, and it's just not always on a situation that you put yourself in, it's your potential situation that you put uh, that your loved ones put themselves in, that you have to help them dig them out right, and that's just part of love, and that's why I was like, when we talk about freedom and homelessness, nobody's gonna call on them.
Speaker 1:For you know what I mean? It just that's just. I was like, when we talk about freedom and homelessness, nobody's gonna call on them. You know what I mean? That's just the reality of it. Yeah, so, and I was like they're free. That's why I'm less likely Now.
Speaker 1:I give dollars and I give it away Cause it's not Gonna mean that much to me. But I look at it and I was like Bruh, you freer than me, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I don't want to say you live in a good life because I don't want to be in your shoes. Yeah, but I, I I'm less sympathetic, as I used to be.
Speaker 2:Uh, you're living the life that you want yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's a choice at some point. Yeah, part of live off the land and didn't worry about this debt stuff.
Speaker 1:Like I wish, I wish people care like less than I do Like, and this is a problem that ultimately lie in and why it's it's hard for me to prove this point and why I can be as like, like when I asked the question, like you think I'm hard on my girlfriend and I and I was like I do agree that I can be, I'm tougher than most one think I'm hard on my girlfriend and I and I was like I do agree that I can be, I'm tougher than most one because I'm honest. And two is like I work hard as f, yeah, so, yeah, the less care I got to be more sympathetic of your feelings because your ass are strong. In my situation now, if I'm a millionaire, your ass may not be as strong as they are in this moment, but for what I got they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I have less time, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm working harder than ever to deal.
Speaker 1:There's more people that need things. I have more expenses, right? Yeah, yeah, so my, when your ass are lengthy, then then I'm doing that Instead of saying no. I'm doing what you want, but I'm also putting myself more debt. I'm stressing myself out more, I'm working harder than ever. So, yeah, my attitude, I'm going to be more strict in how. Yeah, how my want is and my wants aren't strong. Yeah, my, and that's the, and we. So we had this conversation. Am I talking too much? Uh?
Speaker 2:I don't know where you're about to go so maybe like summarizing a couple yeah, I got you, I got you do we have other things to talk about? I'm just kidding. I got another question damn how the fuck we get. I don't know how we got to 40 something yeah, you're right, right, right yeah and just a long story.
Speaker 1:Short of it is that, hey, I don't ask truly for much, but my overall asks are somewhat vague, to where it can be encompassing in a lot of ways, like be respectful. That ask is small, but that's very encompassing, right right.
Speaker 2:I'll just end it on that note. That can go like many different ways as well, though, but no, that makes sense. I mean, I did read somewhere that the people who I think it's the people who've like tried harder than others have less sympathy for people in general yeah, I, I read that somewhere and I definitely got that, because it was like some years ago, where I would see something happen or, like you said, like a homeless person or whatever. I'm like damn. And then now I'm like nigga, you chose that I'm like a little bit of it now.
Speaker 2:Things can't happen to people absolutely and it could be a really messed up situation, but for the most part, like nigga, I seen you last four saturdays on the same block this show hustle I ain't got it you, you, you do this so much and so often that you don't even remember me.
Speaker 1:That's funny that you said that, because, like I was pulled up at a gas station, homie was like bruh. Honestly, I just got out of jail. You know I need this thing, da-da-da. I know it's BS, you know I'm going to just throw you it. Just off of the strength, you know what I mean. Just off of love. One black man to another. I put up the true fit bro, put up a safe card. Hey, bro, I just gotta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like you asked me that last month. I remember you. No, I swear on god, I ain't never done that. That ain't never done that. It drives off what the fuck?
Speaker 1:you don't know me damn what the fuck, I'm with you on that after a while I was like alright come on now alright, hold on.
Speaker 2:I have one question damn damn. That actually kind of tied a little bit into what you were saying. But have you ever put a relationship first and felt like a romantic relationship? Have you ever put a romantic relationship first and felt like a background character in your own life, like almost like you had identity loss? Identity loss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want you to answer it first, and then I and now.
Speaker 2:I've done it before to where it was one point I was just putting the whole relationship in front of me and what I saw myself, maybe even like before my own purpose at one point, and I felt like I was completely losing who I was in general to where it kind of like psychologically was like messing with.
Speaker 1:I felt like I was losing myself yeah, I'm gonna say I put others first, but I I'll take an l on this slightly, is I'm gonna let you know yeah yeah, my words I may.
Speaker 1:I'm the type of person that's gonna kick and scream and still do it. Uh-huh, yeah, like not legitimately, but it's like, hey, man, hey, we gotta easy. You gotta be easy on me. You know what I mean. My words may be a little light. My grandmother, like I, was like hey, you know, I gotta do this and that you're. You know the ask is a little strong, but I'm gonna fit it in.
Speaker 2:I'll be doing that sometimes you know and um I'm sorry, you was like that, forever like um, I mean for forever.
Speaker 1:I'm 32, so, yeah, yeah. So I mean not no, I guess, because you just do what you're told when you're younger. But but now, and and now I have more since February when I started the job, I'm less time than ever. Like two years ago two, three years ago, I would say, were my best times to where and I know, I know I was gonna pay for it eventually like when I got the exposition, I was like there's gonna be maintenance issues on this one and so my expenses are gonna be more. But now, like the money is paying for itself, I should probably put down a little bit more, but I'm having a lot of fun going out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, I could have been way more. That's why I'm out. I could always point it back to me, yeah, yeah. So I, I could have been way more. That's why I'm out. I could always point it back to me, yeah, yeah. So I put myself, you know, and and then I was saying, like you know, I probably should pay more on these student loans, but you know, since it's it's it's pandemic, they're not asking for it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I was like it's probably gonna come back and haunt me.
Speaker 1:But, I'm enjoying my life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, so, yeah. So I'm trying to equate it back to there how I did it.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:So, oh, I know where I was getting at, so I had more freedom To do anything. So my complaints To my grandmother Wouldn't be crazy, because I had.
Speaker 2:I ain't talking about like regular people, I'm saying like a romantic relationship? Yeah, romantic relationship. Have you like put this girl like on a pedestal, basically, and eventually you realize like you were starting to lose yourself or lose like the, what you thought of yourself and all that type of shit. Would you put her up in front? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:I feel like I could have gotten there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So at one point I'm sure I could have gotten gotten that bad, but luckily she didn't do the right things. So it also just like exactly, yeah, yeah, cuz that I'll say it's openly, because I was truly very insecure with myself uh-huh then it was to a point to where, you know, she was off, was always breaking up and getting back together, so we wasn't even together at the time. I was like, hey, do what you want, as long as you come home it was like that, that's how that's like.
Speaker 2:Ultimately very pathetic, very much so yeah, I just, I just felt like all, all the world so gone through something yeah, that was just like. So I put her above all this type of stuff.
Speaker 1:So I was like I know I can't say this thing because that is very simpy. That's the ultimate simp. Yeah. So I would never speak that. Yeah, but that's how I felt.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh In that moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's when you talk about losing yourself, like these are not behavior qualities that I would ever believe in, right, yeah, but my love for this person is filling to that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So in that, point.
Speaker 1:Yes, that has happened, so I have lost who I, who I actually was in order to be with or appease that person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like everybody kind of has some some sort of story like that in their life, their dating life, anyway. Um, I don't think I really have anything else uh, oh well, I'll, I'll say this, but a random fact, because we're talking about like back then, and you know like how, uh health wise how things could have been different.
Speaker 2:Um, the way people work, the way people where I'm coming in is the way people eat, and things like that. Did you know in the early 1900s? Um, scientists put like money in, uh uh, some doctors no, no, no no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:The uh people behind like marketing, because you remember, tv start rolling out and shit like that and, and you know, like newspapers was a big thing, so advertisements start to go like all the way up. So, as you know, like companies behind food brands or whatever, maybe like cereal in I guess scientists, scientists slash doctors' pockets to say that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they did that behind a lot of different foods.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah, yeah, so they did that shit with cereal to market the cereal. And then now that's like a big thing for Americans and that goes with orange juice as well, because they had um, you know, they were selling oranges and shit just like any any time ever, but they were over producing the oranges and they didn't know what to do with the rest of them and it was like, well, shit, we're just gonna like mix it with some shit and it's orange juice. And then they did the same thing with that. So like that's why, like now it's like a norm to have an orange juice. And then they did the same thing with that. So like that's why, like now it's like a norm to have an orange juice with like something in the morning but yeah it's all like it's all made up yeah, absolutely like.
Speaker 1:Even cheese is like a byproduct that they didn't know what to do with I can understand that was a great yeah yeah, that boy, oh my god coming, coming back here to nashville, bruh, it's.
Speaker 2:It's so much easier to gain weight here, like bruh, what the fuck like in la like. Anywhere I went I could find maybe salmon with something here, it's not like that. This shit is a straight hot chicken burgers. Yeah, bruh, this, this don't even taste right without cheese on it. Yeah, yeah, yes, bro no, no, that's 100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did that with a lot of things, uh-huh yeah yeah, yeah, that's why that's why we?
Speaker 2:uh, I just really wonder how. I just really wonder what we're supposed to be doing. I feel like it's so fucking simple, bro. That's why I'm gonna get me a juicer and. I'm going to try to. I'm gonna start implementing not drinking as much just straight purified water, but mixing it with like watermelon and cucumber and different juices, to where I'm not drinking purified water anymore, like I'm drinking only coconut water watermelon water.
Speaker 1:Okay, so like structured water is what they're calling it. Is that what you?
Speaker 2:it's just got electrolytes in it.
Speaker 1:It's just yeah, yeah, it's kind of like just eating fruits all the time yeah, so I've been drinking okra water, okra, yeah, yeah, so I'll let it soak, but it's like very it's slimy yeah no yeah it's not like it doesn't bother me, but it's not like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not the best in the world to like, consume. In terms of like it's because it's texture. It's like you can dip your hand up and goo's coming out, but you don't like beans. Um, no, beans is like chewing the organ. Beans are. Yeah, but this is my preference. But yeah, yeah yeah yeah, sorry, you act like beans and slime is the same thing. No, no, it's just like I don't like how beans look. They look like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, poor man's pebbles you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:like it's just yeah, I don't like how they look, I talk about kidney beans.
Speaker 1:Eating it straight up don't smell good, they look bad, it looks like mush and they and you throw it in with everything else and it and it tastes it doesn't you don't like it with rice either.
Speaker 2:Some type of beans? No, not at all.
Speaker 1:Wow, I don't like refried beans.
Speaker 2:Oh, for real, the Mexican.
Speaker 1:That looks like baby poop.
Speaker 2:That's a good analogy yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can tolerate barbecue beans, but I don't eat two scoops before it gets too much, before it's like Alright, I'm chewing this. It's not good. It tastes well Because it's sweet, barbecue Right, and it masks the taste of the beans. Yeah, yeah yeah, so it's like I can put this on anything but beans. You're just masking what they are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't put that on a burger. Huh, I said yeah, you can't put that Like on a burger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that was, that was, that was my fact yeah, well, I think we did it, we did good. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it good conversation yeah, this was this we could really be talking all day for real. I just wanted to say oh right, yeah, and just oh. Do I have something else?
Speaker 1:no, no, I'm just saying that's a possibility for us, because we could just chat oh, okay yeah yeah, yeah, that's true, absolutely, but I think we did it. Yeah, we did good, alright. Well, this is Two for the culture. We'll be back, alright. Yes, sir, peace.