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Two for the Culture
From Italian Lovers to Nigerian Scammers: Who's After American Women?
Justin and Steve explore freedom, hustle culture, and the surprising countries most attracted to American women in a wide-ranging conversation that questions whether we're all trapped in modern slavery.
• Italy tops the list of countries most attracted to American women, followed by Japan, Brazil, France, and Nigeria
• Discussion of a tragic Idaho incident where a rejected firefighter applicant killed two firefighters
• Exploration of "hustle culture" after a restaurant owner passed away in her sleep from overwork
• Comparison between modern work stress and natural living patterns of indigenous peoples
• Provocative view that homeless people might experience more freedom than those bound by societal obligations
• Vulnerable conversation about losing personal identity in romantic relationships
• Revelation that "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" originated as a marketing campaign by cereal companies
and we are back with another episode of two for the culture. I'm justin davante, I'm steve ray. Yes, sir, we're back. How you feeling? Feeling good, man feeling good um what happened? I think it's just same old, same old. We just now. We're on the schedule now, so oh, yeah, yeah unless something significant changing um, then it's not this weekend again um yeah, I went to germantown pub.
Speaker 2:This time I didn't know that was the black place, because in germantown it seems like I don't know it's gentrified.
Speaker 1:That's what it is okay well, yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2:I walked in. I was like the waitress first of all, the waitresses, the wait the bartenders. Being black is automatic, like oh, this is a black place, yeah, yeah, so that was cool, yeah, yeah, and seeing like a black style yeah, I mean, that was totally different yeah, and you know it's.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like who you know type of thing. It's like black people know black people, white people know white people. So it's just kind of how it goes yeah, that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was dope.
Speaker 1:That was dope. Yeah, well, that's cool. Same old, same old, working all the time yeah yeah, it's a much different, you know, unless there's something tragic happening. Well, I do have family reunion in a couple weeks, so maybe we'll pull back with. You know something new.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, working relationship, taking care of people, the family reunion, is it like a big?
Speaker 1:one. Yeah, it's big, yeah, yeah, yeah, one of those summer joints. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a pretty big event. You know, my family's ancestry is from New Orleans. Oh, yeah, yeah, so it'll be down there, mm-hmm. But I did want to get straight into a game.
Speaker 2:I think you'll find it.
Speaker 1:So this one is can you see? My okay so this one is the top five countries attracted to American women.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know, all your shit is countries. I keep telling you my geographical sense is not up there, but we can go.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah yeah, and keep in mind this is an easier one. America.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to come to America, exactly.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so these are guessable. At least you know it's not one country on this list is like oh, I was never going to think of that.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, I can see that.
Speaker 1:All right, so, but these are. You know the particular order, but you can name three, strikes, you're out and yeah, top five, top, top five uh uh uh.
Speaker 3:Countries that are attracted to american women yes um all right, france.
Speaker 1:France is number four. France is number four okay, so keep on going on that thing. When you think of france, what other country you think of? When you think of France, what other country do you think of? Great Britain? No, that's strike one, think of another. Now, france and this other country are like you can confuse them. Both People think Exactly. Yeah, that's number one, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yep, Yep. So now you got one and four. Now no more Europe is on this one. So there's the biggest country in south america I I'm really kind of giving you hints mexico that's north america oh, hold on um. They know you got bbls. What does bbl stand for brazil? Yeah, there you go okay, I was the. I was kind of thinking brazil, all right and I'm gonna give you the reasons why these are, these are and I'm gonna stem a question off of that all right so now we got one country in africa and one company, one country in, uh, asia.
Speaker 1:All right, so this one. I'm gonna give you the reason why, uh, cultural fact. Well, I'll give you the american women represent a different type of feminine, a more assertive independence, which intrigues these men. I guess I should have really gave you those guesses. And, and this is the country in Asia, we went to war Exactly. So that's number three.
Speaker 1:Okay, now this is kind of funny a little bit. The reason why this is number five American women are often viewed as successful, ambitious and strong. Many of these men admire those traits and also seek US connection for education, family opportunity. So they're pretty much using American women right, and this is in Africa blank scammer.
Speaker 2:Nigeria exactly. Oh my god, oh my god, that's fucked up. Hammer Speaker 1 19 exactly. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God Speaker 2 Exactly, oh, my God Speaker. 1 All right, yeah, yeah so that's fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I definitely knew what it was. I've heard that many, many times.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I mean. But yeah, so even you know, chat DBT was like bruh, they'd be using these hoes out here. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, yeah, so they be using these hoes out here? Oh my God, yeah. So Italy. Italian men are often intrigued by American women's confidence, openness and independence. Uh-huh, brazil. American women are often seen as exotic and adventurous. Okay, and we talked about Japan, france. There's long been mutual attraction between America and the French. French men often see America's women as stylish, open-minded and intellectually curious. Yep, so yeah. But the Japan one makes sense. It's more assertive and independent, which intrigues some Japanese men.
Speaker 2:Which I guess they like that. I said French because I saw a lot of photos of French women who don't shave their armpits so I thought maybe like they wanted somebody who does okay, yeah, so yeah understood, it worked yeah yeah, does that list.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like there should have been others on that list?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know because you know I'm in america, so if anything, I kind of, I guess, like them, look at women in different countries, it's just like foreign. You could just see the beauty in a foreign woman. So I, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even know what type for real that they liked. You know there's many different types of women here so I didn't know which type they were going for. Maybe y'all in Miami.
Speaker 1:And the Nigerian one made the most sense because they're seeking citizenship. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Mexican, they're so close to the border. Oh, I could see that one has been a top one. That's why I'm kind of like not really I'm a little surprised not seeing that uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Uh, because just by nature or canadian, but I guess it was kind of like outruling that the neighboring countries a little bit yeah, damn, okayhmm, damn okay, you know, this is though, this though yeah, since you're doing it now, I'll do mine okay, thank you all right, so it's literally on my laptop so don't look at it. All right, so the top five grossing black movies in the 90s uh top five grossing black movies.
Speaker 1:You got three strikes okay um, I would say um minister society yes, okay, that's number three all right, I'll say Friday no, okay, that's actually a little shocking, because that was.
Speaker 2:Was that in the 90s? I would think it is.
Speaker 1:Okay, probably in the 99, man.
Speaker 2:I would say. What's the one with Tupac and Janet Jackson? Poetic Justice, yes, no, wow, this top five, though, so this is like mass mass appeal right, huh.
Speaker 1:And what can I get a hint on? What constitutes like a black movie, like yeah?
Speaker 2:see that that was my thing, but just mainly like a classic black film okay, yeah, so if I so like probably. Justice was a great choice yeah, okay, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I need to stay along on that theme. Yes, like it's like one of them.
Speaker 2:One of them is kind of like out of it.
Speaker 1:Okay, because as long as I was like brad, like it has a bunch of black cats right but it's like like men in black or some shit.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of them is a little bit outside of it, but yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to need a little bit, because I mean I can name some stuff Do they have One of them is Generational actors like Will Smith. Yes.
Speaker 2:One of them.
Speaker 1:Oh, what's the movie with Eddie Murphy when he's like an African prince?
Speaker 2:Oh, that was a good one, but no, I don't think that's on there, wow.
Speaker 1:Is there any Eddie Murphy movies on there? It's not like what's the joint where he's big and he turns skinny when he drinks a potion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's wrong too. I don't know if this list I mean this is what says. Highest grossing black movies in the 1990s was yep, following closely. So the first one is boys in the hood okay the second one is malcolm x. That's what I was like.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit out okay, you said generational actors oh, okay, I got so yeah it's that one Minister of Society.
Speaker 2:What's Love Got to Do With it?
Speaker 1:That is a damn lie. No, no, no, what's Love oh? Yeah, I'm tripping.
Speaker 2:In 93? I'm tripping, yeah, I'm tripping, and Boomerang.
Speaker 1:Boomerang, yeah, that.
Speaker 2:Po, you know what's love got to do no, that's the Tina Turner joint, okay yeah, I can see because that still comes on now. Boomerang was funny, but when was Poetic Justice? Poetic Justice hats? Yeah, cause Tupac was only popping for like a couple years, and it was in the 90s.
Speaker 1:I was like a juice. You know I'm thinking brown sugar like loving basketball, not brown sugar. Loving basketball always comes to my head. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew I was one cuz menaces. Know those boys in the hood, that's critically acclaimed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was the one I was really thinking about. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I thought she was gonna get that one, oh well. Okay. Oh yeah, Did you hear about something that happened today? What is that? I'll watch out with the thing. But you like touched it, oh okay, so what happened today was did you hear about the Idaho sniper?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't hear about that.
Speaker 2:Bruh. So there was a guy and I forgot his age. He had to be like kind of young, this man. He lit a fire, like on some mountain or something, and the firefighters came to put it out. And while the firefighters were I think it was a number of them there and he literally set himself up like posted up and sniped the firefighters oh wow yeah while they were trying to do it, and then he killed two of them and injured one of them. And then the guy's granddad said that he applied to be a firefighter and he didn't get in because he wasn't tall enough so how tall you think it was probably okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess he got mad and then they found him with the gun and he was dead, so I guess he shot himself yeah, someone's around him for that, kill him.
Speaker 1:You know why he killed himself. And two is why did you kill some, some firemen?
Speaker 2:because you didn't get in I don't know, but I mean, how else does it add up for?
Speaker 1:you, I mean, I mean, I'm not saying like a conspiracy is deeper than that, but I'm just saying like you really really one. He didn't get in because his height he got. He didn't get in because he was thrown off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because yeah, even bad vibes, yeah, absolutely like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not worthy to put on. Yeah, if you're willing to kill somebody over that, then you're thrown off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the height was probably an excuse to get rid of his ass.
Speaker 2:I just see him in his interview.
Speaker 1:Let him burn pass on this guy. Yeah, no, I didn't hear about that. When did this happen today? Today, oh wow, and they already got explanation of a reason why I mean, I guess he did yeah, yeah yeah, so I guess I talked to his granddaddy or something, I don't know yeah. And why. How is Ava going to trace it back to him? You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean why?
Speaker 1:He didn't. It doesn't seem like he had to kill himself.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean you sniping people? I mean I don't know, I would assume that they might find him.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm just saying that's very difficult to trace back to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you say sniper, that's like a long-ass distance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you get sniped. Then he's running in the woods.
Speaker 2:And then how do you really trace that back to him? I feel like there's some ways.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah there is some ways, but if you're really 50-50 chance. I mean he's thrown off some ways. But if you're really 50-50 chance, I mean he's throwed off, so I'm sure he probably used his own bullets so you could trace that back to him eventually, yeah, but I'm just saying he's just. I mean this is a throwed-off individual.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I'm just saying he could have probably got away with that.
Speaker 2:It sounds like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like.
Speaker 2:Maybe he wasn't as far as it sounds like in my head, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's sniping them and they don't know where it's coming from. And these ain't police officers. It's not like they got guns. They got to go back to where they came from to report.
Speaker 2:I would assume as soon as guy number one dies. It's like click the button, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just saying I'm sure there's a button.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, A button. I would assume there's a button in the fire truck to call the police.
Speaker 1:Maybe yeah, but I'm just saying once you snipe, you go down and you figure out what's happening. The other dude just sniped.
Speaker 2:The other dude just sniped and he ran off. I mean, I don't high intense situation, yeah, yeah, so he could have kept it.
Speaker 1:Maybe he could have got away with it. Yeah, but he didn't even try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but I mean, he's like damn, that was fucked up. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that was fucked up. Let me just end it. Yeah, you say that after you drop one. Yeah, you don't. Oh, it was probably the third one that he just like. All right, he's running away trying to.
Speaker 1:Anyway, but yeah, that's just hella, throw it off behavior. Obviously, I don't even need to state that point. Yeah. Yeah. So on top of recent news, there was a lady who was on their own restaurant here, but she worked so hard and long she finally took a couple days off and then she went to sleep and never woke up.
Speaker 2:I saw that yeah, wow yeah that's just kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:It's fucked up though right, I mean totally, it just got. It just kept put me down a whole rabbit hole of just thinking what if we was back in the day, like back in the day like the 1600s? Not even slavery, but as an Indian, how much work are they putting in?
Speaker 2:Wow, what's the difference between the mean?
Speaker 1:I'm just like look at natural. It just got me thinking. Just like a natural way of living yeah of how you hunt, kill and then you know you play or whatever they do yeah and and how much hours are they putting in? Because I feel like today's day is like legitimately slave culture. We we have everything we need, but we work so hard yeah, we put in so many amount of hours, we stress out so much that it had to feel a lot.
Speaker 2:Especially in my mind.
Speaker 1:Easier than then, I mean like it seemed easier than then, Like you hunt your food and then you come home. Of course we don't have to worry about starvation like back in the day does yeah and I think that's really the where we kind of have the advantage, because sometimes you don't know when your meals will come. Yeah, but now I was like dang, we're just slaving away and we're killing ourselves.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't compare it to slavery. I think they did way more. But, like the, the, the people of the land, yeah, I don't think it even amounts close to the amount of work, just because, like you have to clock in at a certain time and, like her, she was running a business. Right, that's totally different. Right, that's like day in, day out, yeah, if I'm hunting, I go and kill this bear or whatever, I bring it back home, we chilling for days, maybe even you know, you don't, you don't get it every single day. So it's like time goes by and I don't think niggas was like running from one one land to the other, probably walking or whatever, and every single day cooking and the heat and the steam and the, I don't know. That's when you like try to think about it. I, I see what you're saying. It's like, uh, yeah, and I think I read in there that like she died of quote, like the, the hustle culture, exactly, yeah, yeah, that is wild. That is why and I do.
Speaker 2:I I see that a lot with people who, um, not see that situation a lot of people, but I hear a lot from people. Something I never really agree with was like this, this sleep, I mean this, this theory of like, no sleep, like I don't get that like I've. Anytime I've been in pain, anytime I've had anything going on with my body that just needs to be improved, or like a muscle, whatever the fuck. Soreness from working out sleep is the only thing that could get me right every single time. So it's gotta destroy you like literally from the inside. And I read somewhere that, um, when you don't sleep like that, your brain eats itself. So after a, you're not even like, you're not even like quick to you know. Make decisions.
Speaker 1:Make decisions yeah.
Speaker 2:Just react on your feet and stuff like that, like your cognitive ability, is declining. Yeah, I heard that if you sleep for five hours, that's equivalent to like going out and having a drunk night. So like you wake up, the same, the same groggyness, the same all that shit, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1:I do both. I do the five hours on a weekly basis, just cuz when I, when I get off for uber and Saturday, I have church on Sunday. Hmm, I can definitely say it, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely not the equivalent.
Speaker 1:So I'm having a drunk night out, yeah yeah but maybe if it's constant, like over a period of time, because then I try to make up for it the following sunday uh-huh yeah, yeah, so, um, yeah, I don't, yeah, I, I disagree, at least from that one day now, maybe, if it's like over a month's period, like where you only get five hours of sleep, right, yeah, I can understand, I can understand that maybe a little bit more, but no, I mean, sleep is very important and who's this? And I wonder, it's like so is she? Because I don't know and I'm asking you like as if you know, but how many hours is she? Because I don't know and I'm asking you like as if you know.
Speaker 2:But how many hours is she putting in? I don't know Specifically those people who run the restaurants not work there, but like who run them, hoes they be there all fucking day Like really cooking. Like to me that's like working out from point a to point b throughout the day and if you're not overseeing the restaurant and you're like actually in it, you gotta be overworking yourself, like after a certain amount of time and then to even like to to, to, to, to, to have to pick up a business off of the ground, like bro, you gotta be going ham and in a business like that like versus like an e-commerce or even a clothing store or I don't know whatever else.
Speaker 2:That shit sounds like I'm working out all day, so that's just very tragic because of how much success that she was. Uh, that know, to the point that she's gotten to which a lot 90% of people haven't in terms of their career, or that they're following their dreams and wanting to do certain things.
Speaker 1:So that's, very very sad.
Speaker 2:Do you know how old she was? I don't. She seemed kind of young.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I just had a cousin that passed away in the sleep out of nowhere what, yeah, I know, and he was like in his 40s, like out of nowhere, you know. He was healthy and just went to sleep and didn't wake up. Bruh, that's scary. As hell, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's scary as hell I mean that's kind of the best way to go. Oh my god, yeah, yeah, that's even more effective. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's like. It's like how, how do you like? You know what I mean? How do you? That's? What I'm like is is that because people are in pain and just not saying anything?
Speaker 1:yeah right yeah, because like if she's, she's so tired and she just doesn't wake up, it's like your body. How does it shut down like that? You know what I mean? I just don't understand that concept. It just doesn't make any sense I do.
Speaker 2:I wish, I wish we were more advanced. We probably are. We just don't have access to it. But like actually seeing what's going on in the inside, versus like after something's wrong with you, then you treat it. Yeah, I want that thing where, like it's got um, it goes to your arteries like some, some blue dye or some shit, it goes all the way through your arteries and then there's like an x-ray or some shit and you can see if your arteries are clogged anywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean, I feel like that should be manifesting itself in a lot of areas, Like if my arteries are clogged my hand should be numb. You know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. It don't be like that. That's what I'm saying. I feel like it should. Yeah for sure, because, yeah, we would never know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because people be like you know I got a headache and constantly my head hurts, you know, and people say those things as if it's normal, Like your head's supposed to be hurting all the damn time. So that's why we told me. I was like brad you need to get checked out because there's something you're doing wrong, whether you're eating the wrong thing or whatever. Are you taking pills you need?
Speaker 1:that needs to be kind of figured out if your stomach's hurting all the damn time yeah that ain't a good sign right like and I'm a big dude my head don't if my head be hurting constantly. I'm looking into it you know what I mean? Yeah, my head don't be hurting like that now. Yeah, yeah, I remember I was getting like these head tremors like my head was shaking like this yeah, yeah. And then I'm like what is going on, like I'm looking, why is that funny?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry no, I'm not tripping, I'm just wondering, why that funny? But yeah, yeah, I'm like yeah, I'm just like shaking, like, like head trimming and then so so.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking up online just searching things, because I'm the type of person I'm gonna read information. It's not always going to be the you know. I'm going to just oh, I found the one thing and I'm going to follow this advice. That happens sometimes, but it has to make sense in my head. Yeah, like okay, I should do that, like this. The thing what it was saying was you, um, because of all um, the Bluetooth, audio and stuff like that. This is just what I'm reading. When I talk about head tremors, you need to actually do grounding techniques.
Speaker 1:Take your shoes off and walk in the grass. I saw you do that Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does do something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so what I noticed and what made sense to me is that with my headphones I put on on, and then also when I'm going to work, I had the Bluetooth headset set up the whole time.
Speaker 1:So I'm constantly getting that, whatever radiation or wave thing, and I was like, okay, I didn't even look up Bluetooth stuff. It was just saying that. And I was like that's the issue, because I just started this job and I've been on that bluetooth headset so eight hour, eight, nine hours out the day on top of the, on top of my headphones. You can't have a plug or something that. That's what I started doing. I started plucking it up, yeah, yeah, and so I haven't had those head trimmers, damn yeah, brad, we be fucked up, don't even know it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I was like okay, I was like they you know it wasn't the information that I just, you know, put in the uh, I just say, head tremors and then I start reading it. And then I went to a YouTube page. He necessarily didn't talk about this. See what the comments and see what people say about that. You know the video. And then he's like shoot this person's. Like my husband was having hair tremors. He started doing grounding and walking in the grass and then, you know, because of whatever, and I was like dang, I have been using a lot of bluetooth, that actually makes sense.
Speaker 1:And then when I did the grounding stuff, it felt much better wow so it's just like little things, little techniques that we don't even think about. Yeah, and what we actually need and that's what really talked about the indian and natural way of life of just things of like. Are we actually working too much? And also the thing about when I'm talking about slave. So there's the slave concept of actually getting whipped, but you also have the indentured servitude. Are you more familiar about indentured servitude? Explain it.
Speaker 1:Well so it's pretty. So the first really time I really heard about it was like in the Bible, when, um, I'm going to say the names, but they're going to be completely wrong. When um, abraham worked for I'm saying the names wrong, but worked to get set pursuits there as a wife hit, the father was like if you work for me for a certain amount of years, you can have my daughter mm-hmm. So he worked for him and to marry this woman, when that's that's a whole, another separate conversation. Like picture working for a man for five years just to marry somebody. You know what I mean. Yeah, that's love. Is it Absolutely you gonna? Who you gonna? Did he know her? I mean I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's not adding up to like he really knew the girl.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, adding up to like he really knew the girl. I mean, but I'm just saying but that's love, that's dedication, that's one, that's drive, that's commitment. I'll give you that, that's I mean you, you work for the things you want, correct? Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah. So if you see, if you say eyes to somebody picture, I mean I, I've seen you do it. So yeah, yeah, back in the day when that person you really wanted to pursue how much? You wanted for her what you did to pursue her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, over five years, though you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah right right so. So, regardless of whatever you say, it wasn't like if that didn't work out, you ain't divorcing nobody. I slaved for you, yeah, for five years, yeah, yeah. So that's a different type of love, but besides that, that was um we can put a pin on, yeah, pin on that whole thing, but yeah. So the indifferent servitude is you work for a certain amount of time to pay somebody off okay yeah, and and so with we're in such a debt society, that's absolutely that's, that's essentially what we're.
Speaker 1:We're working to pay off something that they loaned us to, right? So? So that was back in the day, that was slavery. Yeah, you had, you had um willing slavery and you have like actually oppressed slavery.
Speaker 1:So, and it's always interesting to me and you know, something I may get killed for is how I don't. Now that I get older, I don't really feel bad for homeless people as much as I used to All right, hardly ever Because I feel like they're freer than us you, I was, I was, I thought you were going a certain way, but then you went yeah, yeah, completely.
Speaker 2:Uh, what do you mean? Yeah, they're, they're definitely free, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't have bills, they don't have an obligation, right, they do things on their own accord, like heroin, exactly. Yeah, they do it because they love that shit, like I mean, yeah, yeah yeah they.
Speaker 1:They collect money by whatever means and they do what they love and have no obligation to anybody but themselves and move freely. Yeah, that is way freer than us. We have responsibilities, we have said things that we owe to people that we make sure that other people have, and we have a. We have our own self-governance of what we supposed to be. Yeah, there, it's gonna sound bad, but their failed society they don't have I mean yeah, yeah, but so they don't have a feeling of needing to do better for others yeah, well maybe that's there.
Speaker 2:They just don't act on it. I mean, for the most part, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they were like I need to get myself together.
Speaker 1:I mean, for the most part I'm sure they'd be like I need to get myself together. I'm sure there's a level to that. But they don't give a damn, oh no, I'm not in their mind, but that's definitely the feeling I get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause they be mad about you not giving them money.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like, how you mad at me, like dang, like I owe you this. You know what I mean. Yeah, like how you mad at me, like, yeah, like dang, like I owe you this. You know what I mean like you, my homie you ever think they like if they're outside?
Speaker 2:of walmart or some. You know like what. If they go in to um to pee or something like in the bathroom and they look in the mirror and they're like I really got to get my together, I really got to get my shit together, do you think that's ever a?
Speaker 1:thing it's got to be for some of them.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah yeah, some of them may. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're talking about the ones who live and die and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that goes. Yeah, I'm enjoying the conversation, but that's just going off of just like free freedom. Yeah. And when you're in debt society, we don't have that freedom. There's people that we owe, that we have to work for to pay them off. You know, there's people that we have responsibly to to make sure they're taken care of, and that's just a form of indenture servitude. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, that's, that's that's the way of Life on earth for real.
Speaker 1:And so I'm getting somewhere with this. So it brings me on about the lady. Rest in peace of she's worked. We're all in a rat race working for something I'm sure in her mind. I don't want to speak for her. Rest in peace. But there's an idea of if I'm a business owner, I'm, I'm free, I make these choices but how are you free? I feel like you're more but because you, you, you're responsible. Nobody's telling you what to do. You have the ownership. Yeah, so that's the, that's the freedom part of it.
Speaker 2:I don't think this. I feel like it's much worse. I mean it's more stressful you got to pay the bill for the building you got to pay the workers?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, but that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying when people pursue ownership, why do you think they do that? What do you think the reasons why?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so it's more control of the situation, Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:I control. Yeah, exactly, so there's a freedom level to that. Yeah and so. But to your point, which I agree, is that now you're more in debt to your like you said the building, the worker. You're still on top of your regular obligations of your family. So it's like, you see, the 1%, literally the top 1%, it should be like slash, luckiest men alive mm-hmm you know, because you you're at that point of where you're free mm-hmm and you also have and I'm sure that stressed the hell out but you also have the income capacity to do whatever you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah no, for sure that's. That's, I think, what everyone strives for. That's why I don't like um, I don't know. I I will continue to gear toward more information on things that can scale, versus like set things in terms of like jobs and stuff. I mean, I love my job. Uh, I appreciate them for giving me a paycheck every month, thank you.
Speaker 2:But um, yeah, just like things that scale you know what I'm saying like you, you can't, you can't really scale that much in the job, because what you work here, you work here for a year, you get a raise, you just bump up just a little bit for real. But entrepreneurs and all that like they'll take it, of course, like I'm in the social media space. So I've seen this over and over and over and over again. Right, somebody starts off as 50 cents this month, next month 100. Three years from now they're making 100,000 a month. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And doing like you're saying, just like, depending on who they are A lot of freedom, a lot, a lot, a lot a lot of freedom. And then it's a total, total different lifestyle of having to, like, really bust your ass every single day. And I mean you have to bust your ass to get to a certain point. But it ain't the same thing as like working overtime at this warehouse cause you gotta pay off a car note or you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah and you know it, it, it just cause, I mean when it's scary to think that you work so hard that you never wake up again. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And and I think we're oversimplifying the- situation, because I'm sure there had to be health wise wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I mean god can call us home for any time, any reason, you know I mean so that.
Speaker 1:so that's the real thing. But you know, I just look at that and how shocking that is and it's like what are we doing to ourselves? Yeah, yeah, and I'm always going to be a person that's self-reflecting, like, ultimately, what do I want? What do I want for myself, my family, what are my goals and how, you know, what is the healthiest way to get there? Uh-huh, yeah, and that's kind of where I'm at now.
Speaker 1:I'm stuck in some of my decisions you know like yeah because you know, like for my, you have two cars, one's because you know for well, they're both for uber, but the idea was to have was when I got in a car accident for the expedition, how much I was spending on rent, rental costs. I was like I could have leased another vehicle and that could have been my insurance policy, and I could have had that. Now, since I have a real job, I do uber less. So now I'm stuck in that decision. That decision I made, you know, which seemed like a good decision at the time, but not so much now that I have an obligation 40 hours a week to something else. Yeah, so you know it.
Speaker 1:Always, things like that, you know, just has me questioning the world, because I'm always going about the rabbit hole of how we should actually be doing things and sometimes the simple answer is the best yeah, like getting your sleep. Yeah, stop stressing over things being little debt is possible. All those sound easy. Yeah, until life hits you. Until you know. Yeah, until your daughter needs something no right, and you can't tell.
Speaker 1:It's harder to say no, yeah, yeah. So you're gonna work harder for that. My grandmother needs something, my girlfriend needs something yeah, you want to elevate in general. Yeah, yeah, you always want to see them happy, yeah, and so it's always an add-on to things, to where it's like dang, yeah, I'm gonna be literally working for it. Yeah, my dad, you know it. Yeah, he always going to eat something. So it's like the part of you wants to say no, but a part of you feels like you can't really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody's like yeah, that's a tough thing. I really wonder how. I don't know if it was ever different, though I don't think it ever was because like people was working hard as hell way back then I would assume. I would assume by like the stories that I've read, like in the bible and all that stuff, people like saying working hard, it's that means something, it's not just kind of like just there. So Saying working hard, that means something, it's not just kind of like just there. I wonder if there was more self-care, though.
Speaker 1:Picture your baby mother saying I know, this ain't real. I'm just giving you just a scenario, Saying hey, I need rent money or we're going to be out on the street. Oh shit, I need $500, but that's be out on the street, oh shit, and I need, I need 500, but all that's all you got. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 1:Give that, give that up. Yeah, so you're putting yourself In a detriment In order to take care, you know, of the people. Yeah, and that's you know, and that's life. Yeah, and definitely that's you know and that's life. Yeah, and definitely double that for a man. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's just like it's always a constant of just life happening and it's just not always on a situation that you put yourself in, it's your potential situation that you put, uh, that your loved ones put themselves in, that you have to help them, dig them out.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's just part of love, and that's why I was like, when we talk about freedom and homelessness, nobody's going to call on them. You know what I mean? That's just the reality of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So and I was like they're free. That's why I'm less likely Now. I give dollars and I give it away cause it's not going to mean that much to me. But I look at it like, bruh, you free to me. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I don't want to say you live in a good life cause I don't want to be in your shoes, but I I'm less sympathetic, as I used to be.
Speaker 1:Uh you're living the life that you real it's a choice at some point. Yeah, part of part of my crazy ass want to be like I wish we all just live off the land and didn't worry about this debt, stuff, stuff.
Speaker 1:Like I wish I wish that's what it's people care like less than I do, like I, and this is a problem that ultimately lie in and why it's it's hard for me to prove this point and why I can be as like, like when I asked the question, like you think I'm hard on my girlfriend and I and I was like I do agree that I can be, I'm tougher than most. One because I'm honest, and two is like I work hard as F, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, the less care I got to be more sympathetic of your feelings because your ass are strong In my situation. Now, if I'm a millionaire, your ass may not be as strong as they are in this moment, but for what I got they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I have less time, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm working harder than ever.
Speaker 2:To deal with.
Speaker 1:There's more people that need things. I have more expenses, right, yeah, yeah, so when your ass are lengthy, then I'm doing that Instead of saying no, I'm doing what you want. But I'm also putting myself more debt. I'm stressing myself out more. I'm working harder than ever. So, yeah, my attitude I'm going to be more strict in how my what is and my what's aren't strong. Yeah, and that's the. So we had this conversation. Am I talking too much?
Speaker 2:I don't know where you're about to go. So, maybe like summarizing a couple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got you, I got you. Do we have other things to talk about?
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. Oh, I got another question.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Damn how the fuck we get. I don't know how we got to 40 something yeah yeah, yeah, Right, right, right right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're right, right, right right. Yeah, and just a long story short of it is that, hey, I don't ask truly for much Right, but my overall asks are somewhat vague to where it can be encompassing in a lot of ways, like be respectful, that ask is small, but that's very encompassing, Right, right, right, righting, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'll just end it on that note. Yeah, that could be. Yeah, that can go like many different ways as well, though. So but no, that makes sense. I mean, I did read somewhere, um, that the people who have the people who I think it's the people who've, like, tried harder than others, have less sympathy for people in general.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I read that somewhere and I definitely got that, because it was like some years ago where I would see something happen or, like you said, like a homeless person or whatever. I'm like damn. And then now I'm like nigga, you chose that a little bit of it. Now things can happen to people and it can be a really messed up situation, but for the most part, like nigga, I seen you last four Saturdays on the same block this show hustle I ain't got it you, you, you do this so much and so often that you don't remember me.
Speaker 1:Like that's funny that you said that. Uh, because, like I was pulled up at a gas station, homie's like bruh, I just honestly, I just got a jail. You know I need this thing, da, da, da. I know it's bs. You know I'm gonna just throw you it, just offer the strength. You know, I mean just offer love. One black man to another. I pulled up the true fit bro. Put up the same car card. Hey bro, I just got a. I was like you asked me that last month. I remember you. No, I swear on God, I ain't never did that.
Speaker 1:It drives off. What the fuck. You don't know me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. What the fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm with you on with you on that like after a while I was like all right come on now um, all right, I have one question. Um, damn damn, they actually kind of tied a little bit into what you were saying. But have you ever put a relationship first and felt like a romantic saying? But have you ever put a relationship first and felt like a romantic relationship? Have you ever put a romantic relationship first and felt like a background character in your own life, like almost like you had identity loss, identity loss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want you to answer it first and then I'll answer it.
Speaker 2:I've done it before to where it was one point I was just putting the whole relationship in front of me and what I saw of myself, maybe even like before my own purpose at one point, and I felt like I was completely losing who I was in general, to where it kind of like psychologically was like messing with me. I felt like I was losing myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to say I put others first, but I'll take an L on this slightly. I'm going to let you know, yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, my words. I'm the type of person that's going to kick and scream and still do it Uh-huh, like, not legitimately, but it's like hey, man, hey, we got to easy, you got to be easy on me. You know what I mean. My words may be a little light, like my grandmother, like I'd be like hey, you know I gotta do this and that you're.
Speaker 1:You know the ask is a little strong, but I'm gonna fit it in. Uh, I'll be doing that sometimes, you know, and um so you was like that, forever, like um, I mean for forever, I'm 32.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean not no, I guess, because you just do what you're told when you're younger. But but now and and now I have more. Since February, when I started the job, I have less time than ever.
Speaker 1:Like two years ago, two, three years ago, I would say, were my best times, to where and I know I know I was gonna pay for it eventually like when I got the exposition, I was like there's gonna be maintenance issues on this one and so my expenses are gonna be more. But now, like the money is paying for itself, I should probably put down a little bit more, but I'm having a lot of fun going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I I could have been way more. That's why I'm out. I could always point it back to me. Yeah, yeah. So I put myself, you know, and, and then I was saying like you know, I probably should pay more on these student loans, but you know, since it's it's it's pandemic, they're not asking for it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I was like it's probably gonna come back and haunt me, but I'm enjoying my life, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I I'm trying to equate it back to there how I, how I did it but yeah, yeah so, oh, I know where I was getting at, so I had more freedom to do anything. So my complaints to my grandmother wouldn't be be crazy, because I had talking about like regular people I'm saying like a romantic relationship?
Speaker 2:yeah, romantic relationship. Have you like put this girl like on a pedestal, basically, and eventually you realize like you were starting to lose yourself or lose like the, the, what you thought of yourself and all that type of shit. Would you put her up in front? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:uh, I, I feel like I could have gotten there yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So at one point I'm sure I could have gotten gotten that bad, but luckily she didn't do the right things.
Speaker 1:So it also just like exactly, yeah, yeah, cuz that I'll say it's openly, because I was truly very insecure with myself uh-huh then it was to a point to where, you know, she was off, was always breaking up and getting back together, so we wasn't even together at the time. I was like, hey, do what you want, as long as you come home it was like that. That's how that's like ultimately very pathetic, very much so yeah.
Speaker 2:I just felt like all, so that's so you're going through something. Yeah, that was just like. So I put felt like all the world's most men have gone through something. That was just like I put her above all this type of stuff.
Speaker 1:So I was like I know I can't say this thing because that is very simpy. That's the ultimate simp. Yeah. So I would never speak that. Yeah, but that's how I felt. Uh-huh In that moment. Yeah, so that's when you talk about losing yourself, like these are not behavior qualities that I would ever believe in, right, yeah, but my love for this person is feeling to that point yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So in that, point.
Speaker 1:Yes, that has happened, so I have lost who I, who I actually was in order to be with or appease that person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like everybody kind of has some some sort of story like that in their life mm-hmm they're dating life anyway. Mm-hmm, I don't think I really have anything else oh well, I'll say this, but a random fact, because we're talking about like back, then you know, like how, uh, health-wise how things could have been different. Um, the way people work, the way people where I'm coming in is the way people eat and things like that. Did you know in the early 1900s um scientists put like money in uh uh uh, some doctors.
Speaker 2:No, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The uh, uh people behind like marketing, Mm-hmm. Cause you remember TV start rolling out and shit like that, and you know like newspapers was a big thing, Mm-hmm. So advertisements start to go like all the way up, mm-hmm. So, um, did you know, like companies behind uh food brands or whatever. Maybe like cereal they put money in. Uh, I guess scientists. Scientists slash doctors pockets to say that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they did that behind a lot of different foods.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah, so they did that shit with cereal to market the cereal, and then now that's like a big thing for Americans, and that goes with orange juice as well, because they had, you know, they were selling oranges and shit just like any time ever, but they were overproducing, selling oranges and shit just like any any time ever.
Speaker 2:But they were over producing the oranges and they didn't know what to do with the rest of them and it was like, well, shit, we're just gonna like mix it with some shit and it's orange juice. And then they did the same thing with that. So like that's why, like now, it's like a norm to have an orange juice with like something in the morning but yeah it's all like it's all made up yeah, absolutely like.
Speaker 1:Even cheese is like a byproduct that they didn't know what to do with I can understand that was a great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that boy. Oh my god, coming coming back here to nashville, bruh, this is so much easier to gain weight here. Like bruh, what the fuck Like in. La like anywhere I went I could find maybe salmon with something. Here it's not like that. This shit is just straight hot chicken burgers. Yeah, bruh, this shit don't even taste, right?
Speaker 1:without cheese on it. Yeah, yeah, yes, bruh. No, that's 100% real, 100 real. Yeah, they did that with a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah that's why that's why we?
Speaker 2:uh, I just really wonder how. I just really wonder what we're supposed to be doing. I feel like it's so simple, girl. That's why, uh, I'm gonna give me a juicer and. I'm going to try to to. I'm going to start implementing not drinking as much, just straight purified water, but I'm mixing it with, like watermelon and cucumber and different juices, to where I'm not drinking purified water anymore, like I'm drinking only coconut water watermelon water.
Speaker 1:Okay, so like structured water is what they're calling it. Is that what you?
Speaker 2:just got electrolytes in it. It's just. It's kind of like just eating fruits all the time yes, I've been drinking okra water.
Speaker 1:Okra, yeah, yeah, so I let this soak, but it's like very, it's slimy, it's not like it doesn't bother me, but it's like very it's slimy yeah no, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not like it doesn't bother me, but it's not like. Yeah, it's not the best in the world to like consume. In terms of like it's because it's texture. It's like you can dip your hand up and goo's coming out, but you don't like beans. Um, no, beans is like chewing the organ beans are, yeah, but this is my preference. But yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, you act like beans and slime is the same thing. No, no, it's just like. I don't like how beans look. They look like yeah, yeah, yeah, poor man's pebbles you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:like it's just yeah, I don't like how they look, I talk about kidney beans.
Speaker 1:Eating it straight up don't smell good, they look bad, it looks like mush and they and you throw it in with everything else and it and it tastes it doesn't you don't like it with rice either.
Speaker 2:Some type of no, not at all.
Speaker 1:I don't like refried beans oh for real. That looks like baby poop.
Speaker 2:That's a good analogy yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can tolerate barbecue beans, but I don't eat two scoops before it gets too much, before it sets in, before it's like all right, I'm chewing this. It's not good. It tastes well because it's sweet barbecue.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And it masks the taste of the beans. Yeah, yeah, q.
Speaker 2:And it masks the taste of the beans, yeah, yeah so it's like I can put this on anything but beans. You're just masking what they are, yeah, yeah, you can't put that up like on a burger yeah, exactly, exactly yeah well, that was, that was my fact yeah, well, I think we did it, we did good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I appreciate it Good conversation. Yeah yeah, this was we could really be talking All day for real. I just wanted to say.
Speaker 2:Oh right, yeah, and just Do I have something else?
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm just saying that's a possibility for us, cause we could just chat.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, absolutely, but I think we did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did good.