Two for the Culture

The Uber Files: Tales from the Front Seat

Season 1 Episode 22

Justin and Steven share candid stories and perspectives on movies, music preferences, work experiences, and relationship boundaries in this wide-ranging conversation that moves effortlessly between humor and depth.

• Christopher Nolan's Memento sparks a discussion about psychological thrillers and movie preferences
• Comparing J. Cole, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar's music and their differing impacts and replay value
• Justin's disastrous experience as an Amazon delivery driver in LA hills, complete with a truck hanging off a cliff
• Steven's approach to management and efficiency in previous jobs
• Navigating the potential of growing recognition as content creators
• The challenges of maintaining authenticity on social media while considering audience growth
• Perspectives on blended families, dating partners with children, and relationship boundaries
• Agreement that safety concerns trump all other considerations in relationships, especially regarding "crazy" exes


Speaker 1:

And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante, I'm Steven Ray. Yes, sir, we're back. How you feeling, feeling good?

Speaker 2:

man Feeling great. Oh yeah, weekend's good. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said, it wasn't nothing too much A little bit of tequila, a little bit of movie. Watch Memento if you've never seen it.

Speaker 1:

What is it about?

Speaker 2:

memento. You've never seen it, was it about? It's just about this guy. It's about this guy who cannot hold new memories, so every five minutes it's like it's new and he's trying to solve, basically, a murder let's hit it okay.

Speaker 1:

And who is like, is he just a regular citizen?

Speaker 2:

basically, basically like a regular guy who's murdered uh his wife. His wife was uh raped and murdered oh, wow yeah, so he trying to find him and, um, he forgets every five minutes. So he has to have polaroids. He takes pictures of things. He's like he checks his pocket. He's like, okay, I stay here, all right, this person I could trust. This person I could.

Speaker 1:

It is is really cool. Okay, so my next question is um every five minutes. So at what point did he start losing his memory?

Speaker 2:

uh, when when happened to his wife because they came in, they broke into his crib and when he tried to save her, some dude clocked him on the back of his head or something and then he hit the pavement and then he started bleeding and shit. Okay, so it was in that moment. That's his last memory. Is his wife?

Speaker 1:

getting murdered. But now he has to remember every five minutes for the rest of life. So he has to remember that he can't. So he can't remember anything.

Speaker 2:

Nope, not in the last five minutes. It resets every five minutes, every five, five, ten minutes.

Speaker 1:

But he remembers his wife dying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's his last memory. Yeah, okay, yeah, everything was normal.

Speaker 1:

And then after that, every five minutes, yeah, I have to see this because I already have so many questions.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't even check Instagram. I couldn't do anything else but watch that Like you're going to miss something if you take your eyes off the screen. Okay, it's Christopher Nolan. So, that's basically one of my favorite directors.

Speaker 1:

Inception.

Speaker 2:

Interstellar what was this on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so this is like an Amazon Prime original.

Speaker 2:

No, you know Amazon Prime. They got movies now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I'm just saying they also yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Well, bi-movies are, you know, kind of like Netflix. You can look up Nutty Professors.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's what I'm saying Like. Oh okay, Hold on, Let me make sure I'm on the same page. You know, like Mr and Mrs Smith series is strictly on Amazon.

Speaker 2:

Prime, not an exclusive thing, it's a movie that came out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

I got you yeah, in that came out, oh yeah, in theaters in 2000. Okay, so this is an old movie. Yeah, this is one of his. I think that that movie catapulted him. Okay, well he he, he filmed batman begins, and that in the same like couple years.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah did we talk about weapons?

Speaker 2:

I didn't see weapons, but I'm not gonna see it you're not no, I saw a trailer. I'm straight. I heard it was great though no, I do believe that it was great, but I don't fuck with scary movies oh, okay, right yeah. So at first I thought it was just like a little scary or whatever, but like when I saw it I'm like I gotta watch this on like a Saturday at noon or something like that I feel you, but Sinners is not a scary movie to you. Not at all.

Speaker 1:

It's a vampire death. It is a horror movie, Horror movie yeah, but scary. Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 2:

The shit gets silent and then you can get scared in movies.

Speaker 1:

If you're trapped in that environment, then if you go to the movies you liked it, then that one's scary okay. So I'm saying those are horror movies though they're horror movies yes, but I'm just saying weapons. It seems like it's a, you know, a well scripted movie that is also a horror movie yeah, I heard a couple people say how scary it was.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, so even the trailer. The trailer looked like I don't know, I just pick up on certain vibes, it's just like I don't know if I want to, but I I do want to see great movies, though, and it seems like that goes into that category. So yeah, I might see it. I might see it like insidious is a. I'm not watching it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, that's a scary movie, yeah, and somewhat the first one at least that what I watched was like a well-scripted scary movie, like, okay, it's not, it's intentionally scary, yeah, but it actually plays off of a somewhat of a good storyline.

Speaker 2:

That is fairly well so so, on this podcast, I'm gonna just ask you a bunch of questions okay, just cuz like. On the last one, I felt like I was talking a lot, yeah, this one did this one. So so, like out of all the movies that you've seen and stuff, what, what, what comes to mind? Let me say it because now I have like the back story of this shit clipping and like talking too long or something. But if you could see yourself in a movie, what movie would that be that you've seen before?

Speaker 1:

If I could see myself in a movie, yeah, what is like relatable, You're like.

Speaker 2:

This speaks to me.

Speaker 1:

Speaks to me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as in you feel like you could be playing that part. Okay, so like you see yourself in this movie.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so if I'm acting, what type of I can see?

Speaker 2:

myself acting, not that you act, but it's very similar to your life. Who I am, yeah, who you are, oh, okay, okay, it's very similar to like your life, yeah, who you are.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, okay, I got what you're saying. You're like damn, that's me yeah uh-huh, um, I don't, I yeah, I don't know, I feel like it would be a will smith movie, but there's no will smith movie uh, many blacks yeah yeah, nah. Um, that speaks to me. I'll have to get back to you on that, because that's very specific. I feel like that I don't even know what that is for me yeah, yeah, I feel like there is probably something like that's very highly relatable, um, but I can't.

Speaker 2:

It's nothing that is coming to mind at this moment that there will be a stretch to try to figure it out for you too. I just like thought about it I was like what wonder, if you know?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I mean music wise.

Speaker 2:

I feel like j cole spoke to me a lot oh, for real, like yeah, damn, he had me on lock for a minute yeah, yeah, like I think it felt good to knowing that I didn't have like.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't the only one that thought how he thought no, fuck bitches get money uh, I don't think I'm gonna cheat on my girl I don't know what j cole is to you, but that's not.

Speaker 2:

No, I was going back on the, the, the way he used to be when he was coming up. That's what he was talking about. He was, just, like you know, adjusting to fame.

Speaker 1:

I'm well, j cole. I do love j cole, so I wasn't trying to just only put the negative out there, but I was just playing around.

Speaker 2:

But uh, right, right, yeah, no, he, he definitely spoke to me for sure, especially in those those college years yeah, yeah so what's your favorite one? What's your favorite uh?

Speaker 1:

uh, my favorite, j cole song album uh 2014 forest. A lot of people love that shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't like it I mean I not that I don't like it, but I just love boring center yeah, I like uh boring center.

Speaker 1:

It's cool. Yeah, but um 2014 for sale jobs was my favorite one yeah, there's a lot of people's favorite I think that was a good point in his life to where he was, like you know, reaching another height but still, you know, relatively, you know, like was in tune to the streets, yeah, yeah. So you know, and I think he still always will have an element of that. But, you know, he's by far a super rich nigga.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so, uh, there's a level that one foot out of it you are. You know right yeah, yeah I can see that, but he still had like one foot in it, if that makes sense yeah, um, yeah, he, he seems the most genuine I guess, but who's your favorite rapper?

Speaker 2:

My favorite rapper is I mean, I just try not to say Drake. Who's your favorite artist, who's your favorite rapper? Who's your favorite? Yeah, drake. And why is that? Drake get 90% plays.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And why is that? Is it the versatility?

Speaker 2:

It's the versatility. I think it's my voice like a personal thing, like it's in my range of, like how I speak and like my tone If I were to hum certain things. It's things, it's very in line with it, so it's so easy for me to sing along to these things. So, yeah, he got me a long time ago, but I do love the theatrics that.

Speaker 1:

Kendrick portrays in his music.

Speaker 2:

It's very I was going to say Oscar-worthy, grammy-worthy, like it's a movie just playing out you know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I feel that you can like feel it a little bit more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, when the inflections in his voice, it is very theatrical. Yeah, you're 100% right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's very beautiful, and get you, get you, get you, get you drake ain't doing that. Yeah, right, yeah yeah, drake is very much a here and now I don't know it's, it's, it's, it's very right now music like you play the track. I'm hopping on this hoe like that's drake, uh, for the most part, but kendrick, it just seems, except gnx, but like his other stuff, it just, it just seems so, so well thought out, like, like niggas can write essays on that shit, yeah yeah, so to people, butterfly is one of my favorite albums.

Speaker 1:

That and uh, late registration okay, yeah, yeah you, you did bump late registration a lot uh to be able to fly. Um, I tried to get into it. Still not a super fan. It's been a little bit better since I first listened to it, but yeah some, sometimes it just doesn't land you know, yeah, and you know I still like a lot of kendrick music. I'll listen to us still a lot of his stuff, but damn, didn't grow like I loved him when it first came out but I don't really care for it now that's usually how it's like, for some reason that's the same thing with me.

Speaker 2:

Drake for some reason just got staying power. You don't even got to be talking deep, but it's just got like that replay power and Kendrick. Kendrick for me is usually a moment Like damn. I remember playing that and then somebody said, you know, it's supposed to go in reverse too, and all that type of shit, and I started getting deeper into it and they had me for like a month, just like that was the only thing I played, like studied that shit. Antipipa Butter played like, studied that. Answer pimple butterfly studied that. And then after it, you know, it's just like the moment just kind of goes away and then you know if I'm anywhere, I'm not just going to play that, you know what I'm saying. Or when you're in a car, like on the radio and all this you know it.

Speaker 1:

it usually switches back to Drake. Yeah, I would say Thug Motivation 101 is one of my favorites. I remember that shit on the CD, yeah yeah, yeah, twisted Dark Fantasy is another one, yeah. It still gives me chills when I first played that For real.

Speaker 2:

Damn Thug. Motivation was one of the ones. Alright, I gotta read this today. That's crazy, it's good Did you hear the story on that.

Speaker 1:

On the Thug Motivation.

Speaker 2:

So Jeezy said that he went to the photo shoot for the cover and they wanted to make him look like. You know what the cover looked like and the boxes were all filled with fake money and he was like I can't be doing this and it's fake money. He called his homie and got like over a million dollars in cash and replaced the fake money with his real money, just so he could be as authentic as possible on the cover that's some real shit.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's crazy yeah yeah, that's hilarious. I'll take the fake money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah but for what it was and, like the, the, the essence of that's that's. That's right up the alley of what really all he was talking about on that album. So that's that's dope. That's some, that's some real rich nigga shit.

Speaker 1:

I got you Going back to Christopher Nolan when you talk about Kendrick and theatrical, is that I guess my first question is do you want to make movies, Absolutely? Do you want them to have ultimate meetings to them?

Speaker 2:

Yes, like, yeah, like Easter eggs yes, okay.

Speaker 2:

That's my yes. That's why I'm watching those type of movies right now. You know, I'll say when I do finish scripts, versus, like I'm working on this, but, or, in addition to that, that's, that's my route, that's my. I can't do that in these videos that I do on Instagram. So, like when I was making movies with Rob, like I'm really into the script, and with my ex uh, we used to, we used to write scripts together too. So, um, yeah, like I'm really into that shit, bro. Like, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2:

The, the, the, looking the, the, the the, the the the science part to it, the the psychological aspect that you gotta like look back and you know, get certain things, like you said, easter eggs that's. That's completely up my alley.

Speaker 1:

So what if you did do that in your videos, in your small clip video, like I've done it?

Speaker 2:

before, but, like the, the farthest that I would go with, that is, I'm talking about somebody and only they know like that's really as far as I can get in like a 30 second clip.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got you right yeah it's only one person, it's like and you know other than that.

Speaker 2:

I can't really well, I don't want to say I can't get too deep into it, but it just is. It's more difficult to do that in like a 30-second thing. So yeah, that's why I like just making longer content. Yeah longer content, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I feel like it's hard to, because you could even do five minutes on something just in general, like making a skit. Is that fairly difficult to do?

Speaker 2:

uh, with the green screen yeah, I guess yeah uh, yeah, with the green screens. Yes, in a way, the last time I did that was the granny the iskit. It did that like I don't know how long ago. Um, that took two weeks to edit. So I mean, it takes me like an hour to edit now for like a 20 second video.

Speaker 2:

That took two weeks of nothing but editing on this one thing and I'm very proud of it, I'm glad I did it. But like that shit was a lot Like I'd rather even though it was genius, like how I did it, but like it's almost I'd rather put that time into like making a short film or something else. That's like closer in line with where I'm going, even though it is because it is a short story or whatever, but putting myself in there and green screening myself in there and editing it all together, and that was a lot so, which is why I never did a five minute video again but um did you get good viewership from it eventually later on it was about 10k, which is good for YouTube, but I would have to do that consistently over and over and over, like maybe once a week type thing, and it was just incredibly taxing.

Speaker 2:

I got you and on top of that, like what, I'm not putting anything out for like two weeks and it's just exhausting.

Speaker 1:

And when you say two weeks, is what is that? What's your day? Look like?

Speaker 2:

that's eight hours a day spending on this one video yes okay, two weeks of that whole time, that that man, it was too exhausting first time?

Speaker 1:

huh, is that because it was your first time, or you think it will always be two weeks?

Speaker 2:

yeah, because, like it, wasn't just a one-on-one conversation. This is me outside the house, walking in the house, saying hey, granny, the door opens, I gotta edit all this together. I walk into the room. I did there's so many clips, it was too, it was too much. But you know, like I, I'll be willing to do that if I was like funded for something like honestly, I wouldn't even want to do that, I just want to pay somebody to do all that and I just come with the script okay, I got you do you think that it's easy for you to uh distribute roles and control distribute roles.

Speaker 2:

What?

Speaker 1:

do Like you do this one thing, you do that, or do you feel like you micromanage or you're a micromanager.

Speaker 2:

I think for my own stuff I'd be more passionate about it for sure. And me with an editor mindset, I can see me being a little bit like that.

Speaker 2:

But not like, but not like. I'm not like a annoying guy to work with, but I'm me being passionate about it and it's mine and I'm an editor too. Like, if you tell me you can't do something, like, bro, like I've been doing this by myself for like 10 years, you can't do this, so I don't know, it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be too much of a micromanager, do you?

Speaker 1:

micromanage like at your, at your job.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying like, like, when you work at Amazon like other jobs, no.

Speaker 1:

You're just like he's going to get fired anyway. No, I give you I am.

Speaker 1:

If I'm managing somebody, I'm going to coach you the way you want to be coached and that's how I receive it to other people I tell you like hey, you can come to me with anything, as long as it's respectful and you know know, just give a sound argument and I'm okay to be critiqued if. If that's how you like it, then I'll give it to you that way. If you don't, if you want to be off for yourself, then I'll let you be up to yourself. If you want to be, want to be me next to you and try to give you some guidance through the whole thing, then I can do that. It's just how, however, you like it you know as long as well.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna have to get my feedback anyway yeah, I give you oh how I feel like hey, you know I'm always trying to be respectful like hey, I think, trying it this way, would be good, and then you'd be like, nah, I think this way.

Speaker 1:

I was like, okay, well, you know, all right, fine, you know it's nothing today. It just depends on what the time on job looks like, and as long as you're being productive, then it is what it is. Yeah, so when I did manage, I don't think I was ever really that difficult to work with. So, yeah, and it was operating off a good team, good vibes, we had a good time for what it was. I mean, we're in crawl spaces and attics.

Speaker 2:

So yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So really, you just want to get the job done, but we had audits afterwards, so we'll have to pass the audits up. If we didn't do it right the first time, we'll come back. But you know that's the part of things Mistakes are going to be made, so I'm not going to be the one to be upset at a mistake or anything like that, but I'll have to come behind you, because it's also my duty to make sure that the job is done too.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, but it's like, hey, we need to work on this thing, or delegating, have the battle is being prepared. So what is the job world going to look like? Hey, you do this. If we can get this done in 45 minutes, then we can get to we can finish for the day and get paid you know, paid for the rest of the day if we can get this done in two hours.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to do this work on this. If you give before, I'll come help you and yada yada and just have it built out beforehand. It's a collaborative thing If everybody's invested, which typically who doesn't like to get paid for eight hours when they're working five? Yeah, yeah. So it kind of works out that way, just how the structure is. So that's why, when I was talking to the boss, the owner is like let's make it also incentive based. If you don't get mad if they step on the roof, you know or any of us do it if build, build that into the structure of your compensation quality, how many times you come back and then you know you'll feel good about it being more efficient and you'll feel less bad if somebody makes a mess out because they don't get paid for that so everybody has buy-in.

Speaker 1:

so that's structurally how I recommended things. Um, because ultimately I don't like to be. I'm an efficient-minded person, even though I don't apply that in all my lives, which I need to do, but outside of me, like I like to. That's where my mind really goes. It's like, hey, if we can actually look for less tools and that takes out an hour out of our day just trying to find things let's organize it beforehand, let's get everything done, and that you know we can cut our business by 30%. So those are things I like to do and you know you can apply or you cannot. Yeah, so I'll always bring those recommendations, but don't come to me whining. It's not as fast, because I gave you the recommendations that I suggested on what would help and your way didn't go as planned. So it is what it is.

Speaker 2:

I remember working at Amazon when I was in LA, as a delivery driver, and the people on my team I guess I would always have to meet them, because I was always late to meet them, because, like, I was always late, like, not not late to work, but they would finish at like, if, if, if we clocked in at 10, you know, they would finish at like 5, 5 pm, uh, maybe even four or three, and they would always have to come help me because I, like, I just could not get that together, and then they would have these suggestions and they'd be like, you know, all you got to do is this, this, this, this, this, and I was like oh, you know what that does speed up time and I would still be coming out there like 10 at night not even finishing and like that.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know man, maybe sometimes people it's just not the job for them sometimes people, it's just not the job for them.

Speaker 1:

I mean that that is true. That's true too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah but did you have a reason on why you wasn't successful? Bruh I, I was puzzled at myself you know how.

Speaker 2:

You know how frustrating it is like everybody's giving you the tools of what you need to succeed and you just in here, failing, and you just like, bro, I was doing everything they said. You just in here, failing, and you just like, but I was doing everything. They said, oh my god, it, I was just, it, just, it just would not go right. It just would not go right every single time and I tried but like, yeah, that, that that wasn't for me, or maybe I just should have stayed there for a couple more months, or whatever yeah, I mean, I think that you it sounds like I mean the one that wasn't the world for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, also too, is you didn't, you didn't give it enough time yeah, yeah, no, I was just new.

Speaker 2:

I was just new, but I don't. I won't be liking that, even if I am new, I'm like all right. So how do I get better than last week? I just was not getting better, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm like yo what? What is going on?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and I crashed that truck too.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, yep, sure did, definitely did that it was on a hill, Because we in LA, we in LA, la Like the Hidden Hills type thing.

Speaker 2:

Bruh, the driveway is so skinny it goes all the way up. They gave me this huge truck, the biggest one, and I got to come all the way up here, boom deliver this and I had to get back down and I can't turn around.

Speaker 2:

How do people do? And one time it was on, it was like it was. It was like when Simba got lifted up off of which car off the Lion King yeah, the cliff it was. I was on a real cliff and I'm bagging this shit. I think I Got a 50-50 chance of making it home today. Well, I'm on the cliff, I'm bagging up and then the truck is coming off and of the cliff and I gotta like turn it around and go down. It was too scary.

Speaker 1:

I knew I was, I wasn't gonna stay there yeah, that would have been enough for me to be like I'm good. Yeah, I don't even like to do that in my expedition, yeah yeah do you have like rear cameras?

Speaker 2:

rear camera. Yeah, what did I see? The sky like I'm on a cliff. I'm just saying, yeah, I see a bunch of clouds, like what the fuck? Like? No, that was scary, that was too scary, that was scary. Yeah, yeah, I knew I wasn't gonna make it there, yeah, yeah, nah, I'm good you tried it yeah, yeah, that is what it is well hopefully they made recommendations on maybe getting a smaller car.

Speaker 1:

Just yeah, like give a personal Well hopefully they made recommendations on maybe getting a smaller car. Yeah, like give a personal car. Do they do Amazon Flex?

Speaker 2:

They do, they do. Yeah, that's your own car.

Speaker 1:

I think, yeah, exactly, so maybe you can get those type of cars and take those deliveries or something, because that seems very dangerous.

Speaker 2:

I definitely came back down and one of the OGs that worked there the next morning they had put him on the heels because that seems very dangerous. I definitely came back down and one of the ogs that worked there the next morning, they had put him on the heels. And then he just straight up say so, I told y'all I don't like doing them heels. I I did. He switched me with somebody else. I'm like damn, I could have just said that yeah, I wrecked the out of that. That had scratches all on, that did you report it I didn't have a choice.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Okay, I came back in the warehouse the was down there falling off. I was like, yeah, I did this. Hmm, okay, make sure you make a report about that, like all right, like whatever. No, I definitely I'm not gonna. I quit that. I quit that one, like maybe two weeks after that yeah, I just knew how long did you stay two weeks. I mean, yeah, it wasn't that long at all.

Speaker 1:

I was miserable. Of course you wasn't going to get another job.

Speaker 2:

I just wasn't. I wasn't getting better. I'm fucking up the cars. I'm a liability. I just wasn't, bro, like nothing was working. I wasn't getting better, I'm fucking up the cars.

Speaker 1:

You was only there for two weeks.

Speaker 2:

I'm a liability Matter of fact. This job is a liability to me now.

Speaker 1:

No, I think they did. Do you think they just didn't train you well, because it just sounds like they just told you to start driving.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, oh God. They said go around these cones, cones. I hit one of them like it's good he's ready.

Speaker 1:

What? Yeah, I just fucked y'all up now. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, it's over, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

I mean they be trying to get them out there, people be quitting and you know it's like a temp agency damn near right. So you know you can't turn everybody around, but I held it down, you know, in the training.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I greeted everybody. Anybody that needs to go first, I'll go first.

Speaker 1:

I was trying to be number one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta jump onto the FedEx truck because the thing I fucked that shit up the footstool whateverool, whatever gone.

Speaker 1:

I got you. Uh, I think who could you think you could do around here and I'm not doing that ever. No, no, I'm just saying, like this one would probably be a little bit better maybe, yeah, no in the streets.

Speaker 2:

It was cool. It was definitely cool. The only thing is just like with any other job, you just get used to the job itself. So after the, the physic, the physical portion of you just like holding boxes and running around all day. After that things get smoother. But no, it was too many different things in la, but like yeah, like downtown and now you can't park here.

Speaker 2:

And then you got to figure out, yeah, it's, it's a lot of aspects to it, but again, I just wasn't there that long, yeah, and I knew, yeah, yeah, and I don't be liking that part part of things too.

Speaker 1:

It's like it's not um, because I had a similar thing with like uber eats and door dash when I was doing that. It's like bruh, I gotta find somewhere to park downtown to pick up this food and you know they, they didn't have any me, any tickets specifically for uber eats but, you'll see it happen. You know, and I was like dude, you're supposed to right. And now this is when they somewhat paid well yeah yeah, exactly, even pre-covid before.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like not to get too much into the weeds, but I could. You got surge charges with uber you make still get element of it now, but surge charges matched uber charges when you're a driver and a uber eats driver that you can work off hand in hand with each other, so it's surgeon all together mmm and then now I would just eat off of surges.

Speaker 1:

So it still wasn't really worth it to do go in a parking garage and then wait for the order. Then come back and have it validate your parking and all this stuff.

Speaker 2:

That still was doing too much.

Speaker 1:

But now it's even worse. Yeah, to where you're getting three bucks for an order and you hope that they tip. Yeah, it's like I don't have to live for tips like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you hope that they tip. Yeah, it's like I didn't. I don't like have to live for tips like that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I feel that that's kind of what it was with instacart exactly, and then you got it again.

Speaker 1:

It was cool with them yeah, and then you got to go all the way up to the floor and stuff like that. I heard instacart though yeah, I mean I didn't like that either. Yeah, because then you got a place like Sprouts to where you got a half a cup of macadamia nuts and I didn't know Sprouts like that. So I'm looking for all the things and you got the timer ticking. Yeah, like oh, the macadamia in the owls. Yeah, scoop it into the bag.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's so dumb. And this was during COVID, when I was really at the instant cart height and so half this ain't there. Yeah, yeah so now I gotta have a replacement of the pedia lights.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like no I remember that that was a terrible time I hated sprouts too, until, like I, I learned sprouts.

Speaker 1:

They're all sort of similar well, yeah, now that I go to sprouts, but at the time that's like going into like a new galaxy where yeah like I didn't know nothing. The owls wasn't really. They're not really set up to really look to see what you need at the time yeah, yeah, because they're kind of like all laid out on the wall and if you don't know where you're at, then it's, it's confusing. Now I can go to spross because I go there often and I can know what I need, but then I've never been to spross before yeah, costco used to mess me up too, though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, because they ain't got. They don't even got the words. Yeah, exactly oh my god.

Speaker 1:

But the only thing about costco is, they tipped well on costco oh, facts, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Nice families, yeah, nice little lifestyle exactly they.

Speaker 1:

They tip well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Usually, it's usually a nice little house you pull up to.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. Yeah, yeah and just drop off on the porch. Yep, yep, and this is before pandemic. Before, like, dropping off on the porch was a thing.

Speaker 2:

Did I tell you that I did Instacart and it was a naked woman at the door?

Speaker 1:

Oh nice, no, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:

I think I did tell you. Yeah, one day. I'm Instacarting and nice little neighborhood or whatever, and I have the order and I see a guy with his shirt off outside while I'm pulling up. It's a guy with his shirt off outside and that's all.

Speaker 1:

I saw.

Speaker 2:

Very normal, very normal, very normal. You know, sunny outside Always sunny in California and I get the water. And then, as I'm walking up to the porch, the door is wide open. Door is wide open and there's a lady that just starts like walking for it. It looked like a silhouette of the lady at first. So there's just a door is wide open. It's kind of dark in there and in the back they have the, their door open, the, the back door open, so the only thing you see is dark room. It's bright in the back and a silhouette of a body walking toward the front. So, and then, you know, the light start. I have to walk up to the, the, the porch. So like I'm seeing this silhouette come closer to me as I'm going to the porch, and then light hits her and I mean fully naked, tatted up all the way, older lady, clearly had work done, like big boobs, big, you could see the butt from the front.

Speaker 1:

So you saw her vagina and everything.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure, yeah, I'm pretty sure. But what caught me off guard was she talk like this yeah, this, yeah, okay she was fine with being naked in front of you, absolutely okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I didn't know if you just saw her no, no, no, she's walking to the door, while I'm yeah so, and she's walking to the door.

Speaker 2:

I see her. I'm like hell, no so then I get the rest. Wasn't cute in the face then no, she was like an older white lady okay an old white lady, not an older like 45, I mean like maybe 60. Okay yeah, and got the body, all that shit done, tatted okay, tatted up, and I just remember putting the last thing down and it was like thank you so much what was our man doing chilling on the couch.

Speaker 2:

This is them. This is just this day lifestyle. I wouldn't be surprised they were somebody or just the hippies from LA. Yeah, so you know there are people out there, but that that threw me off one time yeah, the only time I've came well, I'm not gonna say close to that um, because there's one particular time uber driving you know you get hit, you get uh proposed for sex and stuff like that. Okay yeah, yeah, so I was thinking flirting, that's all right no, I mean no, that wasn't that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's flirting, that happens. But yeah, some people want to be instantly with it.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, and you want to tip.

Speaker 1:

They wouldn't ask me for the only thing. It would be close to asking for money or like paying. Format is like paying for my time was like I still gotta work do. How much does it cost to get you stop working?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, but they'd be lit for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like two, three in the morning yeah, yeah, so I got 200 no, no I was like that's price.

Speaker 1:

I didn't say it to them, but in my head I'm like that's prostitution, you know yeah, yeah, I don't want to feel like a prostitute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know some people be cool and then you chat up and then you can exchange. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to feel like a prostitute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know some people be cool and they chat up and then you can exchange numbers that way. But yeah, that was a thing for a while. Yeah, dang yeah.

Speaker 2:

Was it a thing for a while because you kept going to the same spot purposely?

Speaker 1:

Same spot, Like these type of girls come out of here. So how much is purposely like these type of girls come out of here? So I'm just uh, I mean two o'clock. Well, keep in mind we're a tourist city, so it's not like there was one place that you would go and the girls will be with it. It'll be like you're just driving, naturally and since this is a bachelorette city, I have a bigger car, you fit more people in there and somebody's probably gonna be down for some type of thing yeah, so it'll be like that, but yeah, so that's why I'd be like it's.

Speaker 1:

You know it's a different type, it's different types of women out here that I could, you know you could. If you don't know your woman like that, then you could be there definitely. You know loyalty concerns for sure.

Speaker 2:

Jeez yeah. That's why I don't mess around. I feel like that energy is going to come back one day, or maybe it'll just happen, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, because they can definitely be with it and you know it was definitely a norm for a while. Yeah, yeah, Now that I do most of my drives in the Model Y, it's not really that, Because it's really more like a couple passenger vehicles. You know, like two passengers in there.

Speaker 2:

Versus the whole party.

Speaker 1:

Yeah exactly To where it's going to be more turnt, there's more people involved and there's going to be a lot of hyping up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Versus, you know, just like her and her friend you know, or you having a ride home and want to feel comfortable in your ride home, or couples, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I've had any crazy stuff. I used to Uber in Atlanta. Actually I don't think I purposefully Ubered at night. I was always kind of shaky of being recognized as Ray, so Silly. So yeah, I got recognized twice out of like 500 rides, yeah, and I actually picked up some influencers that I didn't know but like were around when people were creating content that I was around and I just never looked back. I just never looked behind me, I got you, yep, I know exactly who they were. It's too funny.

Speaker 1:

I got you, yeah. Yeah, Did you pick them up from a nice house Like damn, they doing way better than me.

Speaker 2:

Ha Shit in Atlanta, man, all them folks was they, was they was out here getting money.

Speaker 1:

yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2:

But um, uh, uh, uh, uh. No, I would usually be from the airport, yeah. I would do a lot of airport rides. So that that was my main. That was my main thing was the airport rides.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah, I fucked with it, but um.

Speaker 1:

I think it's a hustler's thing like I like. Maybe one such another appreciates that you do that because like, hey, that's a way to make money oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then I was scrolling and saw a clip of young jock over it and they was getting on his ass like in the car. You ever saw that the man was in the car? They was getting on his ass like in the car. You ever saw that the man was in the car that was getting on his ass? It's like why are you over him? And he had to finish the ride.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I was thinking about I was in my head a little bit, but I mean I understand, I think it's yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I don't live like that yeah, where it's like I'm not a recognizable face at all. Yeah, yeah, so it is kind of like sometimes, sometimes it's certain areas certain areas but I haven't felt like that.

Speaker 2:

No, wow, I mean honestly, the last time I felt like that was at your house a couple times, oh yeah just uber eats and shit yeah yeah, it was literally like I don't know, it's know it's a different type of crowd. It was like more black people. When I was at your house Well, then again I don't really order anymore but yeah, yeah, a couple of Taco Bell, wendy's visits or just Ubering somewhere, like, yeah, I would get recognized, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Then it's like, yeah, I understand that because I look at like you have people that recognize you. It's like 500,000 people, okay, yeah and there's like dang, that really changed. Because you think like that, I think that spread out throughout America. Thanks, yeah, yeah, but somehow there'll be a lot of recognizable faces of that 500 000 that like oh, I watch their videos yeah, it's pockets yeah yeah, pockets of um cities, you know certain certain uh demographic um out here, memphis there's a couple different places. Yeah, so it can happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that kind of scared me out of not scared me out of but I just like the difference between being where I was at in. Atlanta and. Memphis and LA, because LA is, like, who am I for real? Like Jamie Foxx is across the street. You know y'all ain't worried about me, right, right, so I definitely liked it more, um, in terms of not being recognized out there. Can you see yourself um dip into that, because you're actually you know, you're actually doing that, yeah right yeah, but also I'm not.

Speaker 1:

you're doing a lot of social media stuff, so I don't really be in that world you are. I'm just saying like it don't feel like. I just feel like I upload. Yeah, I do the audio podcast stuff.

Speaker 2:

That's it, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

There's no comments in that you know when you're working on it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1:

I don't really see it so. I'll see it on you really don't have a presence, I guess like on social media, so it's not like I can gain a following, because everything that I'm attached to is the the two for the culture account, so that's more of a business thing yeah if you know, like, if I'm taking myself out out, like, no, I know it.

Speaker 2:

I know it for a fact. I was gonna. I was gonna say that I I realized that in one of our podcasts I was like, oh, he doesn't know, this can go viral, yeah like it was like something. It was something you said and I was like, oh, he just hasn't seen it yet. He don't like not saying you don't know nothing, but like yeah, it's going. It's like the more that we do this, you're on my page.

Speaker 2:

Like so I'm not going to stop making videos, we're not going to stop doing the podcast. Like that, shit is going to grow and then you will be in that you might be somewhere one day and then somebody might give you the little eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, and that you might be somewhere one day and then somebody might give you the little eye.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm nowhere near that now and I don't. Yeah, yeah and but, so if, if, like 10 people are coming up to me like, oh okay, this taking off, but I'm gonna feel it before you, like I'm not completely clueless to it, all right yeah yeah, so it's like I'll see the youtube shorts. Yeah, yeah, but um, so I'll see like. All right, these hoes are getting a hundred thousand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But also I want to speak authentically, my truth too. So there's a level of like I want to stay out of it because I don't want that to get in my head, cause I can easily like I shouldn't say that but so-and-so is going to hear this thing, easily like I shouldn't say that but so and so is going to hear this thing, and. But I still want to speak my truth because, like what we mentioned with j cole is he, he speaks, you know the truth, he, you know he's authentically himself, and that spoke to me and I want to be that in my own way for somebody else. Like you're right, hey, he did have a lot of struggles growing up and I can.

Speaker 1:

I can certainly relate. Maybe that may help me get through this moment of time that I'm in. So there's a level of authenticity Because I can easily, because even being in a relationship, even how much I do say, there's so much I hold back on yeah yeah, and I can't say, yeah, that's not going to go well, I was like this ain't going to go. Well right, I was like this ain't gonna go well, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I can at least defend this if I go here, that'll be saying too much and that can make her feel uncomfortable effects.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, right, no, yeah, it can't seep into your own life. Yeah, he's, certain things he's easily, and you know there'll be time.

Speaker 1:

When I did my last podcast, like my sister was like I heard you say it. It's not like I said your specific name yeah but I I'll defend it you know, I'll defend the action of what I thought was inappropriate. And now you handle a situation yeah yeah, and, and it's kind of and I'll use sibling, I have three sisters, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So you don't know who I'm talking about exactly for real, yeah no, I did. Yeah, no, I I do that. I do that too. Yeah, I just look at it as like. I mean, I look at everything that I do at this point, like on social media that you know just automatically assume everybody's watching this yeah, just because you don't know, you don't know audio. We can have like 50 videos and they get two views and one of them got like 10 million like you don't, you really don't know.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, and I'm my own critic, so I'll see certain things like I need to change how I handle that or say that or do that, or my look, you know, because now I put those Invisalign joints back in like yeah like yeah real. To my face. I can see the cricket. I was like I need to fix that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I critique myself as well on certain things and how to speak. It is helping me a lot in terms of speaking on camera or just having a conversation on camera. I feel like in the beginning I was a little bit more reserved or held back or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but um, I do want to get into one thing though yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm trying to think of something random too.

Speaker 1:

I got you uh, tracy Ellis Ross, did you see her comments? Comments um, so she was just talking about, I guess she dated a guy, didn't work out, but, um, like Obama's a close friend of yours, and either it was I'm probably saying it wrong Either it was a recommendation from a friend or from Obama.

Speaker 2:

Hey, you should date this person.

Speaker 1:

Or he knew about him but didn't say anything Like hey, this is actually not a good person for you and kind of left it alone. She kind of blamed him jokingly. But the overall conversation is how would you do you think that you could be put on by another? I got to this is too partial to park question. Do you think that you'll be willing to accept um a date if me or another friend was to recommend a girl to you? That was that think it could work between y'all two uh, from yeah, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I just got this thing where, like you know, there was a time where, well, this is different, but I just feel like everybody likes who they like, so, like, if it doesn't happen, naturally, then it probably wasn't like kind of meant to be. I've never been set up on a date before, so that would be weird. I would probably do it just to do it once, um, because I mean, y'all know me, so you know that I probably would.

Speaker 2:

I, I don't know I I could say maybe, yeah, maybe, I would uh-huh, what would you?

Speaker 1:

do um with. Uh, if I was single, yeah, uh, yeah it, it it would have to be, yeah, for sure y'all I would take it because yeah, y'all gonna, y'all gonna think she cute if and that's the first part of it- yeah, right like if the only time I don't is when it's like um from a girl oh, yeah, I was like I'm probably. I'm way more kind of probably like now I'm cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I had to be that shallow Like. Let me see your Instagram account.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm good yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I'm cool on this one, yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're more personality driven and like my single, you're single, my friend single, come together, I like y'all both Like no, that's not how it works, yeah.

Speaker 1:

We actually be compatible, right, yeah, so the guys, the homies, they're going like, hey, she bad and she kind of like you a little bit, or you know, we told her about you and she got this thing going. Is she fine, and you got this thing going. I think this could work, yeah, and so I would be more willing to that for that. But my second part question is could you be a friend that'd be willing to hook up? What do you mean. Your other homie.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever alley-ooped your other homie before? No, I haven't. That goes more to what I was saying, what I was about to say. So, like I have a homie, and one time there was this girl who, um, he was in a relationship and the girl dm'd him and he's just basically like hey, or like you, cute something like that that.

Speaker 2:

And then he was in a relationship, so he was just like hey, bro, she DM me, but she's available if you want to talk to her, and I'm just like to me. That just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1:

At this age.

Speaker 2:

It's just like people, like who they like she, like you, you, you know I'm saying so, like to try to alley her to me first of all, like we're two different complexions where you know, I'm saying like people who like me, gonna like me yeah right, yeah, so the um, the, the alley thing. To be honest, I don't know. I don't want to say go too harsh, but I feel like if I could easily alley a girl, you can't bring her home to mama.

Speaker 2:

If you get what I'm saying she's a whore just like, if it's that easy, just like oh, what's this ain't work for me, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

I did that, I did that before was she a whore? Yeah, you know her. Yeah, I'll talk to you about a podcast. I mean, you don't know her like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh shit, I thought it was all right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you know her through me.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

This was back in the 0201 college.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Was it? Was it a college campus? Campus Crossings campus, campus crosses, yeah, so those were back in those days, we had really good times there, yeah, yeah, really good times uh. But yeah, yeah, I tried to do that one mile homeboy like she, she going, yeah, and then, uh, he was just doing too much. We talked about it. We talked about it, uh, actually recently, and I was like you know from my understanding how she said it was like he was doing a lot.

Speaker 2:

Oh damn, yeah, that sucks like too quick you're like you're too my understanding how she said it was like he was doing a lot. Oh damn, yeah, that sucks like too quick.

Speaker 1:

You're like you're too quick, he's like no, actually I spent time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I, you know, I tried to say, okay, that's not how she portrayed it, damn, because she was like, you know, like before modern feminism. She was kind of that to be like she was cool, um, but going at the same time so it was like she's a friend but she's willing to be down for whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, because she she's less emotionally attached to things and you know if, if the vibe is right, she'll she'll be down for it yeah, yeah, so it's not like less emotionally attached, so it's all adding up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's not like less emotionally attached, so it's all adding up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not like you would like corner, like she's a hoe yeah at the end of the day, she is a cool human being, but she's down for the vibes so yeah sophisticated? Yeah, definitely not that oh damn.

Speaker 2:

I was trying to give her a couple pointers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it was bottom line. It was like he was doing too much kind of like too quickly.

Speaker 2:

How would you feel if like has that ever happened to you to where, like, you were with a girl or whatever, and then later on you found out she said something behind your back, like about you. Like this nigga's lame.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

As in, like you heard about it, I wouldn't say this.

Speaker 1:

This guy's lame not not, I just threw something out there, but yeah, yeah, something like that was a critique about me yeah, yeah, yeah, I think for real, I don't think I've yeah, like not nothing, I don't know, maybe I don't know yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's not gonna be like, hey, she said this thing, it was, I think it was. You're gonna say it. You're gonna say it to me for real like yeah, for the most part I'm trying to think well, that's not true. I was like, for the most part, anytime I've like kind of dated, I have a relationship afterwards, but that's not actually true. But but sometimes, yeah, you hear a critique or whatever. Like that's fair criticism yeah yeah, fine yeah, yeah yeah, I do do that thing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that's too bad. I'm pretty sure they do that, but I haven't heard anything like. Come back to me yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean it kind of is what is if you, if yeah, and that's kind of sometimes it centers I live by. It's like hey, I did the thing, so I got to kind of own it yeah and it sucks that it's in the forefront, but it's the truth. So it kind of is what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it might sting a little bit, but that's the truth and I did.

Speaker 1:

I did something that they that was funny or slightly embarrassing, so you gotta kind of live with it and then at the end of the day I got a brother who is doesn't let you live down moments, yeah, and my sister's good for that too.

Speaker 1:

So they, they always bring up the the they're embarrassing thing oh yeah, yeah, so it's like, but I was 10 years old and so those, so I have to live with that in the worst way. So when you say a thing that's kind of like halfway true, it's like, why would I try to defend the thing? When it's kind of true, I get what you're saying. So now you got to really take it with a smile.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know. Well, again, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure every girl does that. But like I just haven't Well most I'm pretty sure most, most, most people do you feel like you're too cool for things. Too cool for things? What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

yeah, like, like I think I did at one point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I'm too cool, like too cool to um, like be embarrassed type of thing.

Speaker 2:

Uh no, I used to used to when, um, I think I told you like I, I put like everything on me being light-skinned at one point like this is my confidence, my look, I cared about people thought like how am I? It could be a party and I'm just standing on the wall, I'm like how can I stand on this wall? The coolest that I can, like, you know, and eventually this is like being yourself.

Speaker 2:

It's just like the, the best fucking thing ever and then you know, like dating as well, that kind of brought me closer to like life is just life breath. Like you know, I've been with women who are just super clumsy, so so pretty, but like one of the clumsiest people you would ever meet and they just did not give a. And then, like you know, just just meeting certain people like that took me out of that, that like trying to be too cool type thing. So yeah, otherwise I wouldn't be dancing on tick tock with my daughter you know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm saying like not caring if I'm hitting this move right, yeah, but at the same time did that feel like that brings you to hoes too?

Speaker 2:

Just.

Speaker 1:

Just no.

Speaker 2:

No, no, okay, I love my daughter. You know, two things can be true at once yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course Two things can be true at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it. You know, I'm going to just say no, oh God. I'm going to say no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, but it's good vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good vibes.

Speaker 1:

I say no, yeah yeah, but um, it's good vibes, yeah. Yeah, I think it. It pairs well. That's something that's fun with your daughter and she loves to do that too, but it's also people. I mean, it shows love like that shows a fam, a family man yeah so it pair, if those both of those things pair as well with social media in general so I think, it's. It's good for both worlds. It's a win-win, I think yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Even even every time before I post kaya, I always ask myself, like, who is this for?

Speaker 1:

you know, with a lot of the posts that I that I do, you know.

Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, do I just just genuinely love this video, or am I trying to get some views on a Saturday or some shit? You know what I'm saying and I never go that route. I'm very intentional with that, with her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think it also goes back to what we talked on a previous podcast about promoting positivity. We ask hey, can you be a righteous billionaire? You will naturally see it. You don't really see it on social media.

Speaker 1:

I think it's just. It's always good, regardless of the bash. You're just doing this for social media. I'm promoting positivity, so you can look at it however you want to, with a lens, but out of all the negative we see all the realities. You know, salacious stuff, all this drama-filled headlines that I'm, at the end of the day, promoting positive. Would you rather do that as a see that amongst black people, black family, black unity, or you know, what I mean.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

In an era where we all grew up with well, not we all, but a lot of us grew up without the fathers in the household and you see somebody say that's a win, yeah. So if you want to nitpick and say like, even did you see Money? Long critique, the Life Jennings video must be nice yeah, yeah, yeah. She was pretty much saying like you know, like that was like she grown up and realized that was kind of like a haters anthem.

Speaker 1:

You're like must be nice but really it was just like he was saying that's ultimately what he wanted oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like yeah, yeah. So it's like I'm saying that to say it's like more of a nitpick thing. It's like, hey, yeah, this you can say, hey, this is just about views or whatever, right, honestly, it's promoting, um, something that everybody should try to have and that's a relationship with their daughter, the child, uh, when their father. So I'm here for it yeah, no, that's true that.

Speaker 2:

I definitely, I definitely. Uh, keep that in mind every time before I click upload with her. It's positivity, yeah yeah, she, yeah, like I'm uh, if she had an instagram she would blow up oh, okay yeah, like I think about that all the time too, but I mean literally like she doesn't even.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't even know how this stuff works, but she knows how it works. Like if I give her my phone and she said I just want to take a video of me flipping on like on the bed, she starts it off, just like this. Hey guys, uh, today I'm flipping and I'm and I'm just like yo, if you had a platform, it'd be over with. It'd be over with that.

Speaker 1:

That scares me, though, but she got a lot of you built into her but she got a lot of you built into her.

Speaker 2:

I see that I don't. Yeah, it's there, like, yeah, it's definitely there. So, yeah, that kind of messes with me a little bit, because she's so talented and you know, like big, big, big, big stars, they usually start off small they usually start off small, then they get in there and then, you know, then it builds their whole career from there and I can kind of see, like if she wanted to, like it could do that.

Speaker 1:

But I'm also scared because she's a child you know, I would have to be everywhere with her, like literally, like no, that should. Just scares me a little bit, I guess. I guess my last question to you is how does it, do you think that having a blended household could work for you and meaning that, say, if you had custody of your, your daughter, and then they had a child as well, coming together, do you think that would?

Speaker 2:

be as in like when she comes over the other child comes over.

Speaker 1:

Well, so you? You marry a woman that has a child and then you bring your daughter into that. Oh is that is that something you could do without, or you wouldn't mind living in that that line.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I would love for that to to. You know that's the, the, the vibe. Yeah, I would love for that to. I don't see.

Speaker 1:

Well, I guess, I guess, does the thought of that puts you away from it, like, nah, I'm not going to.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it is what it is at this point.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you know, like I, I'm saying if the other lady had a child, mm-hmm, yeah, I'm saying the thought of her coming into your domain with your child. I was like, nah, the thought of that doesn't sound right.

Speaker 2:

Or like that's fine. I haven't gotten to that point yet, but I'm not opposed to that at all. I feel like that would be extremely selfish of me to kind of like have that concrete boundary, especially if I really like a woman you know like, and I could see, like my life with this girl and all that you know, that's an, an adjustment, it's a very like, mature thing to do. So, uh, if anything, I would want to be with somebody that that would be the result of, you know her having a kid, because otherwise we just wouldn't, we would stop the relationship at a certain point versus progressing to that. Yeah, that's a different. I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen before, so you know, so I'm going to give you a scenario.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you've been dating this girl for four months. She has a child, and then four months y'all intense love.

Speaker 2:

You think?

Speaker 1:

about proposing.

Speaker 2:

Hell. No, I ain't thinking about no proposing no four months.

Speaker 1:

This is a scenario, okay, all right, all right, all right, add eight months to it, all right. And then you realize and four months sounds better, because it sounds impossible that this scenario will happen in eight months. But four months, four months. You're at least thinking about it. It's not like you're about to do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's too perfect.

Speaker 1:

Everything's great, founds out she has a crazy baby daddy. Yeah, is that a deal breaker? She's everything you want in a woman.

Speaker 2:

It's going to do something. It's definitely going to do because then because now your stress is my stress, yeah, so it would it would do something. I don't like. I don't like, yeah, I would probably break up with a girl over there. Yeah, because, like, if you're, if your mom is childish, or if your cousin, this girl, just child, whatever, just just like if we have a martin and pam relationship you know, I'm saying we're always roasting each other. Just get the fuck out my foot, brian, trying to talk, I could deal with that. However, a man and like he crazy. And then now, if I love you, there's some form of protection that I have to be involved with. And now what? Like?

Speaker 2:

men are crazy you know, and we talking about a crazy man, like anything can happen and I ain't putting myself in that type of shit. So I had to check that up to the game.

Speaker 1:

Could you do it? No, yeah, yeah, it's not worth one, it's different. You know, it's not just my safety involved, it's the people that you care for safety involved. It's like what links is this person wanting to go to? You know what I mean? He, he's he. I don't know his moral code or anything.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, yeah, so he could step to my grandma's house, yeah yeah, yeah, oh God, or whatever, some niggas be ready to blast off of an argument.

Speaker 1:

Your child. Yeah, exactly, yeah. So I got to not only worry about my safety. I got to worry about the safety of the people closest to me that I tend to.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course not. It's never worth that. Yeah, no, I agree with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because I got to be selfish on my side and say, hey, I'm willing to put my family at risk because I love this individual, absolutely not.

Speaker 2:

Hell, no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I love myself too, yeah yeah, it's like yeah, there's. No, I don't. At least, I've never experienced a bond like that in the world that puts my life and my family's life in danger because I'm dating or I love somebody. That would be selfish on my part and that would be a selfish request of you to ask me to be standing here by you when that was your decision to make with this man in the first place right sucks for her definitely sucks for her.

Speaker 2:

I don't know who she gonna get with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, you gotta be another crazy nigga, you gotta have that equal opposite reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Then they cancel each other out oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, the best friends, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Both them niggas crazy yeah, yeah, and then at the end of the day, I'm not willing to not only go to jail for, but go to trial for. You know, as like yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I should I gotta go through the whole legal process on pleading my innocence let alone.

Speaker 2:

I don't even like arguing with men yeah, I don't remember the last time I argued with a man like for what? Like no, it's too much. That can happen, bro.

Speaker 1:

People are too crazy and people are very crazy, and I just said crazy.

Speaker 2:

It's too easy to just.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100%. Too easy yeah. And people be doing it for less.

Speaker 2:

I just saw a video the other day of this dude in his car and he was just talking in the camera and then somebody came up basically saying man, give me your chain. The man said no, dead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 2:

Dead. I'm like bruh, you can't even say no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

How about you give me, let me see the gun before you shoot me?

Speaker 2:

At this point I just automatically assume yeah, I got you, I ain't even trying to yeah my chain ain't worth the damage. Now let's make it just like give me the money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm, no, I just didn't want to show you the real shit. Bow Over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just too easy to kill somebody. I totally agree, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so no I think we did it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're good, for sure, for sure. All right. Well, this is Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante, steven Ray. Yes, sir, we'll be back.

Speaker 2:

All right.