Two for the Culture
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Two for the Culture
The Raw Truths: From Privilege to Perspective in Modern America
Justin and Steven delve into life's complexities through personal stories, exploring racial dynamics, random encounters, and the influence of women on their worldviews.
• Building generational wealth creates opportunities not just for ourselves but for future generations
• The incident with Little Nas X prompts discussion about controversial marketing tactics in the music industry
• Philosophical question: which is worse—a girlfriend who damages your property or one who specifically destroys your Bible?
• Strange encounters with strangers highlight the unpredictability of human behavior and mental health issues
• Personal experiences with "light skin privilege" reveal how racial bias operates in everyday interactions
• Women have shaped their perspectives by teaching them to appreciate life beyond achievement and provision
• The unspoken truth: women often want a sense of control and validation even when they say otherwise
Join us next time as we continue exploring these topics in greater depth. Don't forget to subscribe and share your thoughts with us on social media!
and we are back with another episode of two for the culture. I'm justin amante, steven ray. Yes, sir, we're back again. Yeah, hopefully I don't get it right. Yeah, recorded 30 minutes of podcast and the video you'll see is on youtube. So, yeah, somehow I did not know that our memory card was not in there and, uh, we had 30 minutes of uh, just talking hey, man, we're. We're in abundance right now, exactly so we're gonna uh get back and get you guys a new another episode here, but you know, it was a good conversation.
Speaker 2:Just talking about life probably wasn't meant for, you know, a podcast, yeah, because I feel like I was being a little bit, but I was trying to keep it, you know I think it's still a very, very great information for people who know nothing about steps to building wealth, and there are probably people out there that are in that position that they can do what has happened with you. It's in their kids. Or I can oh shit, I can have this house, I can give this to somebody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, kids. Or you know I can oh shit, I can have this house, I can like give this to somebody.
Speaker 1:And you know, yeah, and I even think you know how tough, like, of course, I'm not a single father you know, let alone a single mother who has obligations to their child and are like confined in their own situation, like, yeah, yeah, how tough that is and how much of a life you really don't have, right, you know, yeah, yeah, so I can only imagine that is, yeah, that's crazy I definitely very, very thankful of where I'm at right now, just knowing how life can be for other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's super important to just like lock in, like I told you, like the gifts and shit that are given to each and every one of us. I feel like that shit is so important to lock in if you can. Yeah, I feel like that shit can change everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's probably what I need to do, because there's a lazy element that I do have. There's a lot of hard work I have, but there's also that laziness that I feel and I need to get over that hump and, um, the time is now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you want to get into the bs? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. All right, let me, let me, let me. You have something. Uh, yeah, all right, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Uh, little nas x, have you heard about him? Uh, yeah, uh go ahead, uh, that he was um locked up for apparently, apparently being high on drugs, being half naked in these LA streets yeah, I saw him like walking around and saying you coming to the party tonight yeah no, I definitely saw that.
Speaker 2:Do you know what area that was? No, I thought that was LA right yeah, yeah, I wonder what area that shit was, that was you familiar with la, like that uh, in a way, in a way um that'd be crazy if you just passed by.
Speaker 1:He's a little now, not zex in his underwear yeah, I wouldn't stop.
Speaker 2:No, shout out to him. I definitely like his music though you do Every time, yeah, every time he releases. You know the videos are starting to get a hard watch. That was not the right words to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what you mean, yeah. Yeah, like, but the songs are usually really good I got you, I mean yeah, yeah, I'm not a fan just because, just uh, the controversy with that one the devil joint.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that popped up in the back of my head too. Yeah, yeah, so was he dancing with the devil.
Speaker 1:Uh, twerking on the devil. He was doing a lot in that and I was like, okay, you're, you're alienating your audience and oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, for a way, no point, yeah, yeah, what was the ultimate message? It just seems like it was a next, at unnecessary next added step into promoting your record uh-huh because, like with old town road, you know it was like kyle loves this.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was like Kyatt loves that song.
Speaker 1:I mean it was a great tune. At first it was just a fun record and then it was like okay, I think he somewhat upset an old country audience. It's like this is not country and they created somewhat of a controversy. And so I feel like he doubled down um and he's a natural troll anyway into um trying to make a controversial, controversial christian audience to be upset at his record yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had like the devil shoes, right yeah, exactly like blood, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think kind of genius marketing, well it depends on how you look at things, because you know, you know, and the religious side is like all right, you know god ain't going to bless you if this is where you're at with it, yeah yeah, so you're ultimately going to downfall if you don't have god on your side after, like, yeah, yeah, um, truly um.
Speaker 1:So, seeing some of this, it could be maybe, uh, another thing of of him doing that, but it also can be actually him going through it, which I feel like at some point that's going to be essential yeah, um, you know, I I thought about this going to happen.
Speaker 2:I mean, I I definitely feel like this um, what, what do you think? What do you think is worse? I don't know why I thought about this. I thought about this like yesterday. Let's say you're dating a girl right and she gets mad at you right and she gets really fucking upset. Maybe you smashed her mom, like something like that right, I know, but I'm just saying it prefaces like her reaction right.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's not the best thing that I thought about it just because, like you're in, forget it. Either way, she's super mad about something, all right, and her reaction. There's two reactions. Which one do you think in her life is worse? Which one do you think is worse, all right, which one do you think is worse, alright? First reaction is she has a car and she drives it like damn near through your place, right? So you're chilling upstairs, downstairs, whatever you hear a boom.
Speaker 2:And then there's a big ass hole in your crib. Now she's fine, but she just like really just messed up your whole crib. Right now you got to get it fixed. Blah, blah, blah. That's, that's number one. Number two um, she finds your bible and she cuts it up and maybe burns it, whatever, and then you come back to your house and then you see that that's the only thing, not your clothes, nothing, but just your Bible. Which one do you think is worse? For her sake, not for yours, but for her sake.
Speaker 1:I mean for her sake. I mean that's just a load of questions, because I have a ton of questions on both sides why are you choosing my Bible to cut up and burn? Like that's me cheating on you is like that's why you think that's going to get back at me and it's like so what is your thought process?
Speaker 2:so.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be more confused at the bible than you running into my house because one that would be just extremely you're like. Why are you hurting yourself to hurt me?
Speaker 2:yeah, so you think like she would be hurting herself more?
Speaker 1:well, yeah, I will have more questions um about the bible in particular because I could just go out and buy a new one, right then, why did you choose a bible to try to hurt me? Because I did this thing so that that one, the other one, I can somewhat rationalize.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's just still insanely crazy to do in general. So I'm gonna have more questions with the Bible. Yeah, not to say, like which one's better or worse. Um, it's like that's devilish behavior, that's like very demonic to choose my Bible.
Speaker 2:Yes, right.
Speaker 1:Like I expect, like it'll be different. If you broke my work laptop, that's harder to replace. And I have to come to my superiors and say hey, I need a new laptop because my girlfriend broke it. There's a lot to explain. You're actually going to take something away from me if you did that, versus me replacing my Bible through Amazon, through Amazon, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get the Bible next day. I'm like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, just I'll get the Bible next day. You know, I'm like okay, now you're crazy for real, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like that's like very demonic and crazy. And, um, that's true, that because I don't even have my Bible be open like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like around, just for you to find you know it's not the first thing. I know he like he goes to church every sunday, so that was the first thing I saw. Yeah, you're not going to see it like that. Yeah, so for you just to like, uh, methodically, I guess that's the word or the word to use to choose my bible is will be very creepy.
Speaker 2:I thought about that, um, when I was. You know like I read a chapter like every day.
Speaker 1:Basically it's really good, so I appreciate it. Do you know what chapter you're on now? Not to Chapter. The book I'm in is Exodus now, so I finished Genesis. Okay, how are you feeling? I feel good. I feel good.
Speaker 2:That shit just feels. It just feels really good to read that. You know, like I said, like one of my main reasons for doing it is, of course, clearly to get get closer to god and all that. But uh, the other part is, uh, I feel like it's the law of the land, so like I feel like I could just learn more about being a better human being, what to do or not to do and uh, even situations that I haven't been in yet, and when it comes to me, I can remember like okay, like if I get a whole lot of money, like I need to be like joseph and just like fucking put this shit to the side and, you know, so I can eventually feed myself and people, and you know I'm saying you're talking about when he was the prophet.
Speaker 1:Uh, under the pharaoh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah so just just random, you know, just like taking random things and being like, all right, this is what this is for me in my life, like and I've seen it, you know, through the bible, the law of the land, so, um, that's why I do it, but I, I just know I have that, that, that um, that, that cycle, or that um, what's the word? Um, the stuff that you do all the time, uh, repetition it's some word um but I do that.
Speaker 2:so I was just thinking one day like what if I made a girl some ass? She, she like cut up my Bible and I'm like that's, that's crazy, like, and I was thinking I was like, damn, you know, I would not rather. But if she did something like my laptop, my laptop was down in my life for real, so she broke that shit. I can kind of understand why you broke it If it's like that crazy. But like to go after the bible is that's, that's wild.
Speaker 2:And I feel like if, if somebody were to do that, like your karma is fucked, like it's in my eyes because then it's, I just think of everything spiritual or whatever and I'll probably like pray over that and, you know, get the new amazon book and like, hey, can you transfer this energy to this one?
Speaker 1:But yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel like her karma is like this shit over with.
Speaker 1:I don't look at it necessarily like that. I look at it because you can also repent and ask God for forgiveness, because you're very long away from it. But when Saul became Paul, he persecuted Christians.
Speaker 1:So he was like literally killing active Christians and so, and then he converted and was a believer and so now he's actually I know I'm not telling the story as accurately, but that's the overall point. It's like, hey, you actually come from doing great harm. I know I'm not telling the story as accurately, but that's the overall point. It's like, hey, you actually can come from doing great harm to actually doing great work.
Speaker 1:It's essentially what I'm saying and then so yeah, so that's stuff you can come back from, but I would just wonder what was on your mind? Who am I choosing? Like, why, Matthew? Like I feel like you should have made a comment about God and how you didn't believe in him. If that's what you want, no uh yeah, yeah. So I'm like okay, how did I not see this?
Speaker 2:because she knew she was probably gonna get dumped I had a friend, I had a friend. I had a friend and his girl said like she didn't believe in god and he was just mentally kind of like, but like after she and he was just mentally kind of fucked, like after she said that he was just like I would just see him just like thinking, like after that, like around the crib. That shit was too funny. It would mess me up too.
Speaker 1:And did you say why she didn't believe in God? I?
Speaker 2:don't know. It's usually like the same amount of answers. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:You know, everything is what it is, and yeah if God was real, why would children, babies, die? Yeah, ask him, nigga I don't know why would you do? You know?
Speaker 2:But no, I thought about that and I thought that shit would just like be super crazy. Did you hear about the story of this girl who? I saw it on TikTok yesterday. So this girl had a Tinder date and I thought about our shenanigans back in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, back in college. The mobile home, yeah, the mobile home joint.
Speaker 2:And she said she was on Tinder in college. She said she was on Tinder and she was chilling with this guy. The guy was like cool, he was, uh, a great guy, black both of them are black and, um, they had good conversation and they even uh, uh, they had good conversation on the phone that she invited him over and even when he came over they were outside gardening together. So like this is cool, you know cool guy he definitely trying to get some cooch.
Speaker 1:Hey, definitely definitely.
Speaker 2:But um, you know, that's, that's how you can tell. Like you know, some dudes are like where are we going to go inside? You know what I'm saying? But like if he's watering plants and she's like all right, he's a cool guy to chill with. Clearly then she said when he came over all of a sudden he kind of like snapped out of it and he just start like yelling to himself like no no, no, no you know yelling loud as hell like he's talking to somebody.
Speaker 1:She said his uncle oh okay, who's not there?
Speaker 2:so it was not there, oh okay yeah, so he is talking to himself and he's like shouting and it's like no, I don't want to do it. He looks at her. He says I'm going to kill you. You black beat to her. She's like you need to leave, like, no, I ain't leaving, I brought a gun, I'm going to kill you, I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 2:And like she, she, she, she, she, she runs out, goes to the neighbor's house, calls the police. He's still in there. Clearly he's crazy and doesn't have, I don't know, common sense, but he's still in there screaming at himself, knocking shit over. Police, come you get him and go into his bag, lo and behold, there is a gun there ready to off this girl. And of course that's the last time she was on Tinder, but I just thought about that.
Speaker 1:I'm like man like people are like really crazy out here and I just thought about uh us, yeah, yeah, how we randomly went to a lady's house and that could have been very bad, and we prayed as as we went. There's a point of prayer yeah, yeah, yeah because it was. It was back of my home too, it wasn't yeah, there was no lights.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, I sent my location to a man, yeah, I ain't never did that before. I was like, hey, bro, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the last place I'm at, yeah.
Speaker 1:And Tate said something kind of profound. He's like, if this is made, you reflect on the moment we had of how it was reckless and you know, that was just. We was young, yeah, very much so, and nothing came of that situation yeah, no kind of good story of what happened oh right yeah now, if something you know, if this lady was possessed uh-huh now, that would be one thing. Like, bro, I'm sorry for having a rupture.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I was down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, that's actually very scary.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, definitely, for I mean, I would be if a woman was doing that in my house. I would be terrified. I can only imagine how a lady would feel if a man was doing it.
Speaker 2:Oh my God oh my god, you gotta get out. You're like who are you talking to?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah, she said she moved and everything's like she only, and she wanted that in her past. Yeah, I would be. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's actually very terrifying, um, and she was just telling this on tiktok as it's happened to her. Did you did this story seem credible, you know? Because, yeah, okay she was.
Speaker 2:She didn't make that up, she was doing her makeup. It was coming from clear memory.
Speaker 1:She was just like yeah, then he.
Speaker 2:I stopped the movie I was watching to hear what that was about.
Speaker 1:Because you remember that one Uber story where the Uber driver apparently tried to kidnap that girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, bro, this is a false story. Yeah, I don't know if this is a false story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't know if I was to hear him like this. Don't sound real.
Speaker 2:Nah, it was real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because when the Uber girl she was like I did everything in my power to make sure this wouldn't happen and it still happened, I was like, yeah, that's not true. You know I was like, made herself seem like she did everything right, and then the Uber driver just put his nose over his shirt. And like as if this ain't holes in this Like he ain't gonna pass out from that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like that sounds like the dumbest story. And then she just, she never went any further than that, she didn't try to investigate, get him locked up, and then she took another Uberber home and I just took her another phone and that was it and like, yeah, come on now. This don't even sound remotely weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you hear? There's a? Um, a body found behind a mcdonald's with the the head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah my dad told me about that recently, which is wild yeah, that's crazy yeah, yeah, I'm wondering where how that happened.
Speaker 2:I'll be thinking about that too, when, when I'm walking around, I'm like damn like what if, well, you know most people that I see I can like take out, but I mean we talking about weapons and shit you know now. I can't really outrun a bullet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you can zigzag though. Huh, you can zigzag, you can zigzag, zig-zach, zig-zach. Hell yeah, fucking Dougie Like with what's his face? What's next Friday?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:What's Mike F's character I don't remember From Baby D. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's too funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think about that sometimes.
Speaker 1:But no, I was walking. No, I don't do that. No, I was walking.
Speaker 2:No, no, I was walking and there was some dude, like some creepy dude, just walking behind me and no, I like. I turned around and everything. I looked at him and he kind of like went the other way. I was just like all right, that could have been something, if I like was listening to music. I usually like, yeah, I walk around with these on. But I wasn't listening to music at that time.
Speaker 1:That was crazy. It was one time I was in high school and we was in East Nashville. My mom was going to church and she was like hey, how are you? He goes to where. I thought he was being funny. My mom was like, ooh, it was like do you know him? I'm kind of like no. It was like oh, he's actually a creepier homeless man, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, damn. You must have a limited amount of friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, what yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What if somebody did it back then? I was like mad. Then what, yeah, yeah, what if somebody did it back then?
Speaker 1:I was mad. Then I was like I want to go back and confront him. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how mad I was. I'm wasting my time doing that.
Speaker 2:How old were you?
Speaker 1:I was probably in high school, age 18, maybe 19. Mm-hmm, yeah, I know I was around there because I was in East nashville. My mom was going to remedy street, so that, uh, visiting registry a lot so she was living east nashville, so I was probably sophomore year, yeah, in high school or in college.
Speaker 2:So probably 20, 19. I, I was at blockbuster one time. My mom got in the car and there was a dude who pulled up and she had her window down and then he was like hey, hey. And then she looked up she didn't even say that and he said how much I was like she didn't even say nothing and he said how much I was like I didn't even know what that was at the time. But then my mom just like smiled and just like went away and I was like bro, dudes are crazy. Like when I thought about it later in life.
Speaker 1:I was like oh my.
Speaker 2:God, that wasn't like on the block somewhere, that was just at a regular blockbuster. So men are actually crazy as hell for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a couple instances that kind of spin off what you said. I remember being at a gas station I was probably in my late 20s at this point and then that guy you know a white girl comes in the gas station. You're like I'm trying to pay for that. All I need is a couple minutes. Yeah, she didn't engage but the vibe I could not see where he was coming from but it looked like she maybe could possibly be selling cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If she wasn't, I could definitely see this is a little creepy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that is wild. I wonder, that's wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just stemming off the kind of like the homeless dude and how mental health is, like, how that guy wasn't happy. You be just laughing right now.
Speaker 2:Because he's saying rrrr, yeah, yeah, the fuck. You be just laughing right now. Because he's saying the fuck, that's too funny. I wouldn't know what to do. I would either be spooked or laugh, or both.
Speaker 1:I thought it was like he was joking, it's like a menacing face, but you think you're trying to be funny. That's kind of how I took it. I remember driving, uber driving, and then like I had maybe like cut a man off, a homeless man off, while he was walking or something like that. And when I was going into their hotel like save the sidewalks, and you got I made a right and he had to stop abruptly and then All he did was yell out like Like abruptly, and then all he did was yell out like like yeah.
Speaker 1:So I just like I thought about it more and it's like people suffering mental health issues. And it was slick, my fault for sure because you cut him off but it felt like he had mental health issues and he couldn't properly vocalize why. That made him mad. You know what I mean. Like you, idiot, or like I can't believe you did this. You know what I mean. So he just screamed fucking Kendrick lamar yeah, yeah, and I remember you was completely what the that's too funny bro.
Speaker 2:I would just laugh.
Speaker 1:That would be the best part of my week it wasn't that funny though like I kind of feel bad a little bit because you cut him off no, like that he couldn't vocally, like when later on, I didn't feel bad at the moment because, like you know, it just happened and I, he just screamed. I didn't know what, where I came, kind of came from. But when I reflected a little bit, that's like okay, he did, he kidding, be like damn, why you do that, or it's be able to say what, how he All he could do is scream. Yeah, you know what I mean. And I just felt bad, that like because he was homeless? It probably wasn't. It probably had to do with the fact that he's probably mentally under and somebody's able to not able to assist.
Speaker 1:So that's kind of why I feel bad, because when we talked homeless before, like you know, a lot of homeless people are free yada yada he's probably of that small ill where he probably was suffering from different things. Yeah, exactly so that one I kind of felt bad for.
Speaker 2:And it's probably go ahead. I'm sorry In my head. You know how, like when you were younger and you know you step on a crack, you break your mama's back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I still, you still do that, I still think about it, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:To be honest, if I see a crack, I'm not going to step on it too, Right, Unless there's multiples like I'm tearing up my mama's back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm fucked, but I was thinking that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1:He was like if I could just make it across the street with no interruptions.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking. That's hilarious, yeah Damn, yeah. Well, he missed that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, speaking of homeless, because it's just homeless people everywhere and just in general, right, you're in a metropolitan city. It's just like exchanging of energies, right, and like how easily something as somebody putting up their middle finger can piss you off.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like this dude he was digging in his drawers.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Digging in his drawers, and then he pulled up his middle finger at me. That made me mad. No, digging in his drawers, and then he pulled up his middle finger at me. That made me mad.
Speaker 2:No, he meant that shit, he meant that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I was like that for some reason really pissed me off.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like how? And I was just thinking.
Speaker 2:That shit was dirty and everything I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm driving by and he's just like dang. Why'd he choose me? Yeah, yeah. And he just like dang why he choose me. Yeah, and then I just thought about it. I was like how easily you know exchanging of negative energy, how that you receive that.
Speaker 1:That shit real, yeah, and how that changed my mood, yeah, and how I was like why can I just easily have waved it off? You know, like, how is? How is I able to receive that? Yeah, you know, through the car. You know, like, how was I able to receive that? Yeah, you know, through the car. You know, I found it just like some of that stuff. Maybe I'm thinking a little bit more deeper than what I should on that.
Speaker 2:I believe that, though, like what I told you about, like words in general and how intention about the dude, the Japanese guy and the water, yeah, like how you speak to the water and freeze it and stuff like that, the words it's not even necessarily words, but intention I feel like it's energy and it crosses language. It goes farther than language, so like, yeah, you could like look at somebody or growl at them and you know, yeah, that that energy can transfer, I guess, if you allow it.
Speaker 1:but, um, I believe all that stuff yeah, I remember being at a gas station one time and it's just like people are weird. Um, and this guy, you know, he's rough looking, um, like homeless, rough looking, not like menacing, rough looking, yeah, and he, you know he gets whatever water and chips or whatever, and then at the end of it he goes and flicks the cashier. I yeah, yeah, yeah, it is like no, he just flicks on, he don't even say nothing. He's like cashier like you, okay, yeah yeah, yeah he's like no, I'm good man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly like I was.
Speaker 2:Like I found that weird yeah, maybe he just realized it didn't work, so he's like I'm not gonna do it yeah, yeah, like he randomly flicked him up like how, like somebody would do the cops you know, what I mean like yeah, and then I was like that was a weird switch of energy. Yeah, yeah, no, he's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Damn. No, I yeah, I haven't really. Of course I've seen crazy things, that crazy people at gas stations One time I saw. One time I saw the Arabian guy at 7-Eleven who An Arabian guy at 7-Eleven who An Arabian guy at 7-Eleven, and this dirty white dude was kind of overweight.
Speaker 2:He definitely was homeless, smelled, the whole place smelled like him just from him walking in, and he was in there, he definitely wasn't going to get anything. And then he just out of nowhere, just said to the 7-eleven guy it's like you saying, nigger, I was like they dropped some new verbiage out there. They dropped some new, new insults. I like, I ain't never heard that shit before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's a.
Speaker 2:That's one of them, I ain't never heard that shit before, yeah, and then I spoke up. I was like I don't call him that, yeah, and then he kind of calmed down. But to be honest, if he started talking crazy to me I would have been a little spooked. You're right, people that are out of their mind crazy. I don't know how to deal with that, yeah yeah. Yeah, there aren't like conventional ways to deal with people like that, right so that was very weird yeah, yeah, and what so?
Speaker 1:he just like okay, yeah, yeah, they always do that. Like did that?
Speaker 2:uh can't hear anything, or whatever oh, no, no, no, uh, that's what you meant. I uh the, the cash, the cashier. He just was like, yeah, you know, just like, like it happens all the time type thing.
Speaker 1:That was the first time I ever heard that but, um, how did you feel about sticking up for somebody?
Speaker 2:you felt good, um, yeah, like 50, 50, because that has happened before. It was an actual black person. I just don't like that shit. I don't like hearing that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but most from what I've seen is black people don't usually respond. Older of the older generation, they don't usually respond. Older of the older generation, they don't usually respond. Which is a better I think is a better way of dealing with the situation versus escalating, because you're you're talking to someone who is just like out of it. You know, um, I used to try to interject, you know, because I know that I don't know like it's going to sound like a little deep. But I know that you know, like in those situations, one time I was in Burbank and it was this black security guard. And you know, security guard, bro, like your job you ain't making like hella bands. You know what I'm saying you. You, it looked like he has good days and bad days. You could tell by a person's face you know, what I'm saying and this older white lady homeless.
Speaker 2:She just kept calling him the n-word over and allowed, like everybody in the fucking store here's at rouse or kroger and she was homeless lady.
Speaker 2:You said she's a homeless lady so it's like, you know, like what are you really gonna say to this homeless lady? You know, I'm saying, and he was just like so poised and it just hurts my feelings, bro, bro, like when somebody you can tell that they this isn't new to them. You know, like he didn't get upset, he just like kind of looked away while she's still screaming his shit. And sometimes I just feel like I want to interject because I have and I'm aware that I have like this light skin privilege like this, this shit, that I can probably take things farther than someone who's darker than me. And knowing that sometimes makes me want to like be the one to do this, because whatever will happen to me is not going to be as bad, just naturally. So, yeah, so sometimes I will be in situations and just know that and how the world works and like use that shit, yeah so. Yeah, I don't know what the question was, but no, no, I feel that just certain, certain degree.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily feel that for that way, like how you do uh-huh but I know that is a thing. Yeah, like I don't. Like you know, my brother is dark skinned, my, uh, my father is dark skinned, so you know I'm I feel like black amongst them, but I do think that light skin privilege is a real thing and I know that very well.
Speaker 1:I'm light skin and I see it when it happens, but I don't go into it thinking like I'm my skin. This is, you know, will work out with my favorite yeah, I didn't say it's gonna work. Yeah, no, I'm just saying like that's not like a that I'll have at that moment. I'll. I'll play it out later on. It's like it's probably because I was asking that I showed some what some favor to, or I don't look maybe as what.
Speaker 1:Somebody else may deem a darker skin menacing more than so myself because my close friend Tevin I feel like there's times to where he was probably discriminated against versus in my situation. Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 1:I remember just I was in a car accident and then you know, a lady was telling her story she was a and because she so, ultimately what happened was a car had stopped to let her through. But I was driving straight, not seeing her at that stop sign because a car was blocking my vision. So I just see her drive out and then so she drive out, and then so I kind of T-bone her, but I had to right away. She was at a stop sign, I was just driving on the main street and she pulled out, not seeing me because that car was blocked, but we get in a car accident. The cop gets there, gets her story, then he's like okay, bro, what happened? White man.
Speaker 1:You know, like, let's talk, because it's probably not. You know, whatever she's saying is BS you know what. I mean, he already came to that conclusion.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:And so when I self-reflected was like, okay, you didn't treat her as she like a citizen should have, because it's not like she, she wasn't telling a lie, she just thought that I was in the wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he ruled it her fault at her fault, and then she was upset, but not like totally upset, um, but yeah. So I I see it when it happens. And I self-reflect later like oh, it's probably because of this, but uh, you know, I not to say you don't, but I feel like a black man, so it's not. You know, I walk as if like um, sometimes like man. I don't want to go through this thing with a bunch of white people off in one section, so I'll just move across the street.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like if a white girl's coming in, it's me, her word against mine. I'll probably just walk across the street and let her have the sidewalk to herself.
Speaker 2:No facts. No, I mean, I do that as well. I just remember certain moments in my life where it was clear as day that you know if I'm speaking a certain way or whatever, like it would be a different story with me than my homies, my friends, like people that are darker than me.
Speaker 2:Like one time in Nashville we used to go to Vandy a lot. One of my homies he's like he's super dark skinned and he was in the car and then the police showed up because it was a tire that popped and it was like raining and we were on the side of the road and it was weird. It was like he's already dark skinned right and he had a black hoodie on. I had a black hoodie on. We always wear our hoodies, like right here, and it was just something about the way the cop looked like in the car and it was like. It was like when he looked at me it was cool. But then when he saw him in there, it was like his mood changed and I'm like I felt that shit and I'm sitting here talking to him.
Speaker 2:He didn't I, I, I, he has he said something to where I had to follow up with him because I didn't know where the, the, the, the, the, the AAA or whatever when they were coming with the tire. So I got out the car and, like I said now, his demeanor changed and I like knocked on the. Did I knock on it? I don't even think I knocked on the window. I was about to knock on the window and because he was just sitting there like he, just he wasn't doing shit, like nothing.
Speaker 1:Didn't even have a flashing lights on flashing lights on. Just for like people to pull over on the other side of it.
Speaker 2:We were on the side of the road, so I'm just saying I'm blocking anything.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying, but still, people, they'll have the lights on so that they can pull into the other lane. So they're not, so they won't be on the same lane as you, even though you're on the side of the street. So it sounds like he didn't.
Speaker 2:he didn't have his lights on that I don't remember that fully, uh, but I just remember that. And then he started treating me weird and I knew what it was. You know, that was one situation. There was another situation where I was drinking a trulies, uh, which is like not that much alcohol, I was drinking a Trulies, which is like not that much alcohol in it. I was drinking a Trulies and I got pulled over.
Speaker 1:While drinking a Trulies. While drinking a Trulies.
Speaker 2:And I did like the most I could to get that shit out of the way. I finished it real quick because it was a little bit left. I was like one minute away from my house. I finished it real quick. I like crushed little bit left. I was like one minute away from my house. I finished it real quick.
Speaker 2:I'd like crushed the can uh LA Burbank okay, and I put the truly's under the seat and I pulled the seat up, so now the the truth is crushed like under the seat or whatever and I don't smell like bourbon or anything.
Speaker 1:You know it's, it's a true. You can't really like tell.
Speaker 2:The registration of the car was out. So this is a situation of, like you know he can, he can do I don't know. It can go as far as he wants to take.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Basically, and he pulled me over and then, you know, I tried to talk as proper as I could and once I seen him I thought it was over, cause I'm still thinking like you, saying we're black, I'm fucked and the registration out, he find his truties and his bitch over with and the man looked at me.
Speaker 2:I looked at him and it was like this cop that had the cop mustache, I'm like it's over. And he started talking to me and he was just giving me grace the whole time and I'm like I'm talking to him. I can't even like believe I'm getting grace right now because I'm like a little, I'm not too fucked up or whatever, but it's just like enough to where, if he told me get out the car and he saw this like it, it just would not have been a good thing. And he let me go, warning no ticket, nothing. Because clearly, like that night he had bigger fish to fry or whatever. And as soon as I was driving off, I knew exactly what that was like. This is. I'm like I was thinking about everybody, all my friends and shit. I'm like would that have happened?
Speaker 1:like that, you know I'm saying so I feel you, I think it's um, it's just some police officers are cool and some you know, you can never really tell because I kind of judge them based off of the individual who they are. Sometimes I had the same situation where my registration was that I knew my tags are out. He's like you know your tags are out. I was like this was back when I was college and I was like, yeah, I was like I just don't got it, you know.
Speaker 1:And he's like I understand money problems yeah yeah, and then he, he, let me go. Yeah, but you got other guys that'll pull you over. Get all the information just to see if they can find something on you.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I have that. It's like hey, did you know your license plate light? One of them's out, you know, so he's asking all the information.
Speaker 2:That's what happened to one of my homies, yeah, yeah, and he went to jail.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, Yep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly, I was thinking about him. I'm like damn. But so that shit real, that shit is definitely real. I've seen it myself, so I don't know yeah yeah, and there was another time too.
Speaker 2:I was on vacation with my girl at the time and there was this little black girl and she, she was thirsty and she just wanted some water and she couldn't reach it. She couldn't reach the the thing, the, the water thing. There was a waiter, he was white, he kept walking past her like over and over and over and over again, and I just kind of like stood up and I was just like, hey, can you help her? And then he just had this look on his face like oh, like somebody checked me for that you know type thing, and then he helped the girl out.
Speaker 2:It's just. I just hate seeing shit like that. Like that, shit is not.
Speaker 1:I don't like that I don't like yeah, right right yeah, I've seen that many times with black women yeah, what do you mean? Uh, just terms of Just being like kind of overlooked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just walk right past, you know if they're asking for something, or like if I'm working with somebody, they would like probably approach me versus her type thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I've seen that a couple times. Okay.
Speaker 2:One time I worked for this company we were, we were on the street, you know, like you got a Walmart or some shit, and then sometimes outside they're like hey, we're raising money for children with cancer. Yeah, and I worked there and we're outside of a place in, I guess, a nice sort of area, and they would respond to me a little better than they would with her okay and she was talking more than I was okay and it was kind of like I just I just don't like seeing that shit, because I mean it's or or being reminded how real this stuff is okay, yeah, I got
Speaker 1:you yeah so was it more than one black lady instance, because you said particularly with black women uh, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but um, those two stick out. Do you think if it was your ex-girlfriend they would have responded that same? They would have responded more to you still no, she was. She's super pretty and like vibrant, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and lighter as well, yeah yeah, okay, but I'm just saying was uh, I think that, um, I don't know what this lady looks like yeah but if they just, you know, just move them along, you know?
Speaker 1:I mean, she doesn't sound attractive uh, no, not like yeah, yeah, yeah, so that. So sometimes I take that in consideration of what people may seem attractive is oh, and I think that has something to do with a pretty privilege. Yeah, exactly, yeah, and sometimes I'll be like I do get graced in some situations. You know I was like you know, thank god I got, you know, uh, good looking eyes or whatever you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, like yeah, so I, I get that too, and that's the whole thing do you feel like? You ever this time like you got pretty boy privilege or whatever?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, no, for sure. Um, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I know it's there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely know it's there.
Speaker 2:I wish I did have some way of thinking about that. But I'm pretty sure some people might treat me a little nicer just because of that and the charisma aspect to it.
Speaker 1:Do you think when you don't get play, you were like do you not see that I'm good-looking?
Speaker 2:players in like I'm. I'm trying to get down on somebody yeah, yeah no, no, I mean nobody like treats me like I'm ugly, like ew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like it's not like that yeah.
Speaker 2:So not necessarily in that aspect.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. Yeah, nothing I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to find a question on this chat. How has a woman influenced the person you are today? How has women influenced the person you are today?
Speaker 1:How has women influenced the person you are today, Everything that's an interesting question. I wonder what question you asked for Chad GBT to ask that. But I mean, I came from a single mother.
Speaker 2:I have a grandmother.
Speaker 1:So those are essentially people that I look up to, I look up to my brother, but essentially it's been grown women, so you know they give, especially my mom, for sure, because I still I mean, I get a ton of guidance from her, I think highly intelligent. Of course, my grandmother as well. You know like at a certain age you live so much that you're, I feel like you're at a genius level. There's like a grandmaster with you because you experience it. So my grandmother is about to be 77 next month and it's just, you see so much that you can tell stories of dating back when you were a child in the 50s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, before civil rights and how people acted, that you can tell stories of dating back when you're a child in the 50s yeah, yeah, yeah, before civil rights and how people acted you?
Speaker 1:you've talked with so many people, so you understand people well you understand men and you can understand your behaviors and self-reflect, like that's so in my um I've been especially, uh, lucky, particularly my grandma in this case. She's accountable for her actions too, so she can know where she kind of failed a little bit. And I said to her I was like when she was 40 or 50, did you think you knew everything? And now that you're in your 70s, did you? Did you know a lot of your 40s? Like, shoot, I didn't know anything in my 40s and then so I was looking at that. It's like you're 40, 50 when you was 40, 50. Now that you're fucking, you still don't know everything you know I think, at like 40, 50, you have this wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1:And for you to be like heck no, I didn't know a damn thing. And you're at 40, 50, you have this wealth of knowledge. For you to be like heck, no, I didn't know a damn thing. You're at 40, 50 years old and you feel that way. I was like there's so much growth I got to go through that.
Speaker 1:I don't even realize. Yet I think, okay, I got life together. I see what life is for real. The older you get, the more funerals you go to, you know? And then she's like I didn't know anything and when I was 40, 50, so it's just just the information that they give and their perception and perspective on things absolutely huge. So they so they outside of my own experiences, kind of sculpted how a lot of what I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And my mom. I go to her guidance so much she's I'm extremely lucky about. I was like you know. I was like you're, my mom, so I wouldn't call you a mentor. But I just come to you with a lot of things and you give such great advice that I, you know, I even tell my girlfriend I'm like you need to speak to my mom more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause she just is very good Like she wants to do life coaching. I think that you know, if she ever retired from her main career, that life coaching would actually benefit society Well yeah that's dope, so I'm just extremely lucky in that case.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so you know, on the accountable aspect, I don't think that she's mastered it. You know. I tell her that, like you know, I think that you know that's something that I think you need to work on, but she would totally disagree. She feels like she's more accountable than what I think it is. But outside of that, I mean, I can't complain. She knows men really well, she's an extremely effective communicator and I'm incredibly lucky in that aspect. That's dope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about you? Very insightful answer. What was the question?
Speaker 1:How did women affect your life?
Speaker 2:or like shape me, yeah, hmm, hmm. I think they shape everyone to a certain degree, for instance on the hmm, how do they shape me? There's so many different ways you can go about this, because I think the connection with women has come from, like the connection with my mom and my daughter the most.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like trying to understand women in general, which I don't think we'll ever figure that shit out. But um, just for the most part I think that that that's where my connection with women in general comes from, because I had so much fun with my mom growing up. The essence of life in general. I feel like women have kind of poured into me, without even trying, like the true essence of life, like living life you know like as a man, you know you're like oh shit, I gotta provide, I gotta do this, I gotta do that.
Speaker 2:And then you could be with a woman and she's just like look at the sunset. You know I'm saying like look at, like, breathe out here with the trees and shit, like it's just like what life is like really about you know, um, chilling with my daughter.
Speaker 2:It's just, life is just so much more than just what we have to do every day, or uh, um, you know, men have a different story or whatever. But yeah, I think the essence of life in general women have opened up my eyes to that to smell the flowers while they're here, you know, like that's I've always remembered with, even with like a couple of different relationships. It's just there's a different perspective of life that you can, like, you know, really just take all this shit in and really appreciate, uh, everything.
Speaker 1:You know that that's usually not seen yeah, I mean honestly, I think that we could I that particular question. I can break that down honestly. I wish that was the beginning question yeah because that could be a whole podcast in itself, because I can look at the get the side of things. But there's also a negativity straight from that like in terms of like the negative parts of what, how they shaped your life as well yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean from rejection or you know accountability like, just like little things, like all that plays a part, part into how your life is, and definitely when you're talking about the opposite sex, on how you feel, and I think that goes for anybody real I mean, and it may as well, of course. You know everybody has a part to play. So I think that, um, but if we're speaking in general, I think that would be a very I wish let's put a pin on that one and save that for next episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that was actually because it gets me thinking a lot, because I just named two people you know in general, but there's actually a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot of people I can name to the scope of where I'm at, to you know past relationships yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I forgot about the whole like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love my mom but the difference out of being in love is that plays a whole different thing and how you think and how you act and you know I mean.
Speaker 1:So I think that that's a good one and I think we should put a pin on it because I don't want to go too deep. Uh, when you know we got, you know, I mean. So I think that that's a good one and I think we should put a pin on it. Yeah, I don't want to go too deep when you know we got you know. A couple minutes for you before you get on your call oh, let's see it's 20 holes let me see.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there's more. The one said do you think men could fully ever understand women?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I mean fully understand.
Speaker 2:I don't even think they understand.
Speaker 1:I mean, but yeah, just pick one, Just go like yeah and just ask that.
Speaker 2:Do you believe women face challenges men often? Overlook which ones? Yeah, and just ask that Do you believe women face challenges men often?
Speaker 1:overlook which ones? Yeah, I mean the quickest. Women face challenges that men overlook.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that easily.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's our thing to answer.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:What's a lesson about relationships you've only learned through a woman.
Speaker 1:What's all these about? Like yeah, yeah, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh no no, yeah, the. The question was I got. Oh, there was a whole another thing. All right, hold on. Uh, what female role model do you admire most, and why does your mom right now? Um, what do you think women want most from men but rarely say out loud?
Speaker 1:uh most from, but rarely say out loud. I mean because let's go through the core ones loyalty, love, respect, uh, yeah, yeah, uh, provider, I would say. Rarely say out, I would say they say emotional intelligence too.
Speaker 2:So I would I'd say maybe a friend.
Speaker 1:I think they say that out loud.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what don't they say out loud I'm just trying to say yeah, these are like questions for women.
Speaker 1:Well, but also, I think, but it's like what we perceive it as. So it can. It doesn't necessarily have to be a question for a woman. So what? What? You from your own situation, what they rarely say out loud, but they actually like this, they want this thing uh, yeah, yeah, I think, I think a sense of control yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, that's, I agree yeah.
Speaker 1:I definitely agree with that one, definitely in particular in mind they act like they don't yeah, yeah, they want a leader, but they actually want to actually lead more than what they say they want yeah, yeah yeah, so that was actually a great one. I was going to say, like you know, just somebody who, um, I feel like I'm on the clock. Yeah, yeah, just they. Um, I'll add on to that a little bit. Somebody who is a yes man in a way.
Speaker 2:A yes man? Oh, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think, they don't take criticism. Well, yeah, so they just like, if I mean long run they'll need it, but I think that it's good to have. But in terms of like, if I say if. If I say, hey, you know, you tell them about your day and a cliche at your job was tripping you feel like, oh, it's not me to say actually you was tripping yeah. Yeah, yeah, so you really want me to disagree that cliche was tripping when she really wasn't.
Speaker 2:Right, right Right, stripping when she really wasn't right right, right, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't with question yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, but we know like brad she would.
Speaker 2:This is always you always act this way you do this with me oh, I hate that. What talking about somebody else when yo ass be doing this to me?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god, yes so I like I already know your nature and I know how you did. You actually was tripping, because you do that all the time here, yeah so, but you just want me to agree and I'm like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I push back, like you know, you could have did this.
Speaker 2:Nah, you're always against me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, da-da-da-da-da. I'm like okay, I'm going to make an issue in the household over something I don't care about Facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, yeah, you cleaned that up. Yeah no, that's definitely a fact for sure I don't know how many I had to learn that shit because, I was not great at that at one time. I was like, but didn't you say never mind yeah yeah, that's too funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think we did it. Yeah, this was a great episode. Yeah, well, this is two for the culture. We'll be back. We'll be back. Yes, sir.