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Thailand on $800: The Trade-Offs of Escape
And we are back with another episode or two for the culture. I'm Justin Devante. I'm Stephen Ray. Yes, sir. And we are back. How you feeling? I feel like I just saw you. Yeah, I know, right? It was just recently Friday that we did a podcast.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. How was your weekend? Um, I watched a lot of movies this weekend. Okay. Like back to back.
SPEAKER_04:Um any new ones that you've seen, or is it like old nostalgic movies?
SPEAKER_05:One was old, it's called Copycat. Have you seen that? That sounds familiar. Yeah, that was dope. Uh it's like a psychological, all of them were psychological thrillers. Um then I got more into the like the murder mystery thing. And I saw uh green it's not card. I don't know why I say green card. But um green, green, green something. But it was an army movie with um who who's uh what's the what's the dude's name? They they like friends. Ben Affleck, his friend. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, they be all they be in movies together sometimes.
SPEAKER_04:I know you're talking about Matt. Matt Damon.
SPEAKER_05:Is that him?
SPEAKER_04:That's the one I'm thinking about.
SPEAKER_05:That's the one I'm thinking about. Uh yeah, no, I just really wanted to see some great acting. That that's the main thing that I you talk about Jason Bourne? Yeah, yeah, Matt Damon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fire. I got you. Third movie, my eyes was like twitching watching that shit.
SPEAKER_04:I got you.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Do you still because it'd be so much happening in this area, because I'd be driving a lot in this area specifically too. Do you just want to be like walking around amongst the people at all?
SPEAKER_05:Um sometimes I'll walk. Sometimes I haven't in a second. Like, like uh, you had asked like what you got going today, like I I need to go outside. Like, you know, just I don't know, get get some different type of energy. But sometimes I'll do that. I'll I'll walk around or up that that that street where everything is.
SPEAKER_04:Like even the uh the restaurant that's right up the street from you, Abba, like that the scenery is very nice. I think that you'll if you get a drink at the bar or something, you'll you'll be like, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:I I yeah, I saw that. That that was um it was crazy. Like the the one of those days that I was um just in the area and I I saw it was packed out and I was like, oh, this shit is open. Yeah, but uh, how was your weekend?
SPEAKER_04:Um it was cool. I was just pretty much working all weekend. I I'm trying to figure out if I did anything. No, I didn't do anything special um because I worked um the full-time job and then I did overtime for that, and then after that I worked Uber and then Sunday's the same ritual wake up, um, get ready for church, go to church, um, you know, uh get uh Sunday lunch, work, yeah, yeah, and then that's it. So it's like yeah, literally the same ritual. Um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:You feel exhausted or something?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, uh so actually I just switched up the ritual. I did go take a nap right after church. Okay. Oh right. Yeah, that's dude, that's where you know you're getting older. I took a nap. Yeah, oh, it was that's it. I was like, yep, I'm gonna fall asleep. Yeah. Um, yeah, when I say it, it sounds it sounds worse coming out of my mouth. Yeah, yeah, it does. But it's not like you just be doing a lot. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it it's unfortunate because it's you know, it just goes through one. It's not like I'm re I guess I reap the benefits because my bills are being paid. Yeah, but it just goes through one uh door and not the other. So I'm sorry, you know, there's a lot of people that uh benefits, and sometimes I feel like, dang, am I really benefiting? But I guess I do. You know, it it it'll make hopefully in the next year when I have a lot of things paid off, yeah, then I'll feel like okay, this was worth it. But at the end of the day, I'm not tripping because it's kind of what I do.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you can uh move to Thailand, my homie can, he just moved. And how's he liking it? Yeah, he's been he's been talking to me every single day, maybe like two or three times a day. Yeah, he uh it's crazy. Like I I looked on Google Maps and I gotta like he's literally on the opposite end of the earth, like we're on opposite ends. So if it's uh what time is it now? It's 7 uh p.m. here it's 7 a.m. there. So it's like you don't really gotta think too much.
SPEAKER_04:Um do they have uh black and mouse in Thailand?
SPEAKER_05:Uh uh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure. I got you. Uh he he might try to find out.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_05:I'll probably spoke with a hoes of but um uh uh uh yeah, so you know, he he just he's going to a couple different places there just trying to get you know acclimated and stuff, and he just moved in. Um, you know, the the rent there is like$800 for like a two-bedroom and a high-rise uh nice area in the the the area where everything's popping at. This man went shopping. He got a Rolex for$50, US dollars.
SPEAKER_04:That sounds like the fake Rolex and this.
SPEAKER_05:I I don't know. I I mean I just think like let's let's keep going with that. So he went to 7-Eleven and he got a big ass sprite for 30 cents. I knew he was gonna say Rolex.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, big ass Rolex.
SPEAKER_05:That's where he got it. But uh No, but that's what I'm saying. So like you know, he got a big ass sprite at the 7 at a convenience store for 30 cents.
SPEAKER_04:The only reason why I feel like it's fake because a lot of people would just go to Thailand and and there's a back order on Rolexes too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you can't just buy new, it's like typically used from what my understanding of Rolexes are. And people you collect them to make money off them. So a bunch of people would be going to Thailand and for Rolex was fifty dollars, but it was worth 10,000 here.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, right.
SPEAKER_04:Unless it was like a pawn shop and no, no, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:No, no, they got a big ass, they got hella malls out there. He was just telling me the difference uh between the price, but he already knew how this was going. But um it's just a huge difference. And then we were talking to our other homie, he's like known in Thailand. Like he's from Memphis, um, Space Baby, I think is his name on uh on IG. And he's the if you type in Thailand, you the his videos are gonna pop up. Because like he he's like the main one who moved there, and then he was a content creator, he's just like us, like one of the one of the the the on that uh um you can count on your hand, the amount of people kind of like us that was from Memphis. So I know I I've seen this stuff. Maybe maybe you've seen it.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, is he is he like light skin like dark skin? Okay, nah.
SPEAKER_05:Dark skin space, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I'm sure y'all did some type of collaboration video before.
SPEAKER_05:I haven't with him, but all of our friends are, you know, he he's he's damn near best friends with Richard. You know Richard.
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah, yeah, that's the dude that's white. White Richard, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So um they grew up together.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but um, yeah, either way, like he was the first person to go out there, and he was just like, my rent, uh$700.
SPEAKER_02:That's the hit of hot rod. What y'all doing?
SPEAKER_05:You know, just stuff like that. I I love it. But um, it's just crazy. It's just crazy to talk to Kent. Kent called me like at what time this man, the man called me at like 2 a.m. yesterday, which is 2 p.m. over there. And this man was on the back of a motorcycle. As soon as I answered, he just like on the back of the motorcycle, like cheesing. And you just see Thailand in the background. And he he told me, like, you know, that that that that ride that was uh 20 minutes or so was like two dollars. It's just like it's totally everything is different out there. So shout out to him for making that move.
SPEAKER_04:That's crazy. Okay, so I thought he was making this move for like some type of sponsor thing.
SPEAKER_05:No, this is Ken trying to just go to Thailand.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, have you thought about because you can work uh uh remote anywhere?
SPEAKER_05:I can, I'm not. I got I got you. I'm not gonna do it, man. You know, even out here in Nashville, shout out to Nashville. Um even out here, I find myself wanting to be around more black people, like in general. And I I feel like if I feel like that, it's I'm gonna just go to Thailand. You know what I'm saying? Like, and on top of that, I have my daughter, so it's it's X'd out anyway, right? Right. But uh I don't see myself living anywhere outside of the country for more than a few months. I guess right now in my life. Yeah, I I I'll go, you know, experience it, but I need some relatability, some like back and forth. You know, it felt so weird when I went to um uh uh something around here and they had trivia night, everybody was talking and stuff, and on the opposite end it was two white girls, and I was just like, you know, just trying to make conversation. It was just different, you know what I'm saying? I I was looking for the black table.
SPEAKER_04:I feel you.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like where y'all like I I can thrive there, you know what I'm saying? Not even just thrive, but just like be. You know, yeah, yeah. So if I feel like that here, I don't know if I could just like live somewhere like forever. Yeah. But they have amazing benefits. Would you would you go?
SPEAKER_04:Uh no. Everything$2? No. I I don't have that. I don't I don't work remote, so I don't have that ability. If you could. Um, if I could and say if I didn't have um any obligations to be here, like if I didn't have like a family or something. Right here. I I would visit obviously first and see and catch a field. But if there was like, say if you was living in Thailand, you're like, bruh, you ain't got nothing going on in in Nashville. Yeah, come to Thailand. I probably would come to Thailand. Yeah. Why why not? If I could, if I had the ability, if I work remote, yeah, I would definitely do it if if like one of my homies were like, if Tater somebody or you or like yeah, I'm like, all right, you you're familiar with it and you've been around, yeah. Then yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That that is funny. That is like that's what I told Ken. I don't even like flying. I don't like flying. It just takes one little whoop whoop, like on the plane. I'm like, this one like planes. Yeah, but I had to see Kaya so much. Yeah, that's what I say. You flew often a lot. I flew a lot, but uh to see her, but Kaya's my daughter, guys. But um, yeah, I had to see her so much that you would think that I would have got used to it by now, but I just man, I can't I don't like it, bro. But um I told him, I was like, bro, if I go to Thailand, bro, this shit is 100% for you, bro. Like, this is not for me. Like, I'm not trying, like, see the views and all that, like, quickly Googleable. Like, yeah, so this is that this is a brotherhood thing, you know. And cost of living. And cost of it's I again, I know I'm not I'm not moving out there, but um No, I'm just saying that's the reason it can't, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:If it's expensive, if you lived in Japan, or like Brad's expensive hell, but I want you to come. Yeah, I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you like brought everything to dollars, all right, but like yeah, yeah, it's just like you just pay for the forest. That's an easier decision to make.
SPEAKER_05:My cousin has been like really forcing it in my head, like for more than a couple years now about Thailand. He's him and his wife have traveled the world basically, and they're gonna probably keep doing it. But um, they have told me multiple times before Ken said something, before I seen space, that that's the dude that from Memphis. Um before I seen all that, my cousin has been telling me, like, you know, Thailand is like the place you need to go. You can if you got a thousand no, he said Bali for sure. Like, if you got a thousand dollars and you live in Bali, like you live like a king. And um, yeah, so Thailand is sort of kind of close to that.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No, that's actually dope. I'm I'm happy for I I hope he can like do a vlog or whatever.
SPEAKER_05:No, that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing right now. He's recording everything. He's gonna change like his uh well, I'll let him do that and then him show the world.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, his his style of how he does things.
SPEAKER_05:Uh uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like his whole thing is to do that. Is to literally because you know that that's the main thing that he has really. He's black, he's a Memphis nigga, he's in Thailand. Like, that's content immediately. You don't even got you could do regular stuff.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I think that's the whole thing. Yeah, and yeah, it it's fun, you know what I mean. I wonder how they the people see him. Exactly.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, when I saw when he when he FaceTime me, he was on the back of the motorcycle just going to the mall, he was cheesing hard as hell. Like I started smiling. It's just like I I don't, it's just somebody something that's relatable and somewhere super foreign is is is is like captivating a little bit.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, and I wonder how just um like overall, like it sounds like he's genuinely happy. And I wonder if moving out of the states just give you that. Like, you know what I mean? Just like Brad. So much stress, stress here. You you're keeping up with the Joneses.
SPEAKER_05:That's exactly that is exactly why he uh made that decision.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but now you like Brad, y'all doing y'all still hold that in America, you know what I mean? Like y'all stressed about those little things, and I can get to enjoy my time with the people. We all don't got much, you know what I mean? No, you got much. No, I'm just saying, like, like, but I'm saying they're not they're probably not worried about the things you're that Americans don't. They are.
SPEAKER_05:You're not. Well, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's like a it's a whole different thing. It's like coming over here and just being rich, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everybody, they they it's it's regular humans, yeah, yeah. You know, dealing with regular human stuff, but yeah, it's totally different. Let me look that up. What's the difference between uh uh uh what's what's what's what's a good amount of money? You just gotta check for$5,000. Let's say that$5,000,$5,000 in Thai bot, which is their money. How much is five thousand dollars in Thailand?
SPEAKER_04:But you gotta understand uh what how much is the currency like in terms of I wish I could yeah, I wish I could do that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean we can maybe work on that another time. Yeah, but but you explained.
SPEAKER_05:So 16,000 though. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, but no, that's that that is what it is, though. Like again, let's go by rent. Like a place like he's staying at, probably three grand. Yeah, right.$800.
SPEAKER_04:Right, exactly. Yeah, so that's yeah, I mean, that's still a really good deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just rent. And that's in a commentary. And that's a phenomenal area. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, in a phenomenal area. Yeah, yeah, because you can pay$800 somewhere. You just have a roommate, you know what I mean? A gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have a room, but he's paying$800 on his own, and that's maybe utilities. Everything. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I don't know. He he would have to explain that more. But like uh when he was searching for places, though that that would those were the type of places. Yeah, and he and then he's looking I mean Batman, like like the rooftop, the the something at the bottom, the pool that looks crazy, the 800.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and I feel like that's probably what it really should be. You know, yeah, like because uh uh this is like a thousand people in this one building or whatever.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, 800, that's it's not a thousand.
SPEAKER_04:All right, I I say a thousand, that's a lot of people.
SPEAKER_05:But no, I I say that to say because he had FaceTiming when he went on his balcony, he's on the 21st floor. That shit looks scary. Yeah, yeah, and there's like 30 floors.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I'm saying that's probably a thousand people there. That's what I'm saying. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so that's 800. So 80 times 800 times a thousand is 800,000 a month. That seems like whoever has it who owns that building is making their money. You know, I don't know. Plus fees and stuff like that. And I'm just saying it though.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they're stacked. Yeah, yeah. Stacked. Yeah, so yeah, when after after he uh he FaceTimed me when he first walked into his apartment, um, and he went to the balcony, like I wanted him to get off the balcony, and I'm on FaceTime. Yeah, he's on the 21st floor, and I realized even if I stay at a high rise, my shit probably gonna cap at 10. Yeah, I gotta tell the landlord whatever, like, I'm not doing more than 10. That shit, that on FaceTime. I was like, you you kind of close to the edge, bro. You might need to back up a little bit. Because you can just jump off the ho. Yeah, lose your phone or something. That shit should be barred. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Yeah, don't have kids up there. But uh, but yeah, that was that was too funny. What you got for us? All right, so what I got for us today. Today, what we at 17. All right, so today, um let's go with the facts first. The fun stuff is the this or that that I have, right? So um the interesting facts. What do you think Denzel Washington's top two grossing films are? What's number one? Do you think? You have two tries. Training day. I thought that too. No, not even in the top two. I just gave you a huge clue. Not even in the top two. Okay. Yeah, it's gotta be a black favorite, like only. Yeah, I got you.
SPEAKER_04:If training day is not in the top two, what's number one? Um I know it's gonna be something I know. Yeah, for sure. Uh I'm just trying to say Denzel Washington presents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh can I get a hint? Is it if I get you a hint, it's gonna fuck out. I know it's the one where he was blind and Malcolm X? No. Uh blind and he was uh like it was like an apocalypse. Talking about Eli? Yeah, Book of Eli. You think that? I'm guessing. I'm trying to think of something. I'm judging you on that. You know they ain't made no money.
SPEAKER_05:Remember the Titans. Remember the all right, you did. But remember the Titans was fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to watch that again, actually. Yeah, number one, I knew you wasn't gonna get this one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, is Gladiator. Oh, oh, which makes sense to think about it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's the top gross. Number two is American Gangster.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, yeah. That was fire. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But yeah, I would have thought train a day would be up there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, at least in the top five. It's not in the top five.
SPEAKER_04:That's yeah, for sure. I wouldn't have guessed Gladiator because it was too recent. Yeah, I just it's not gonna be in my mind.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, even if it was recent, I I ain't I I didn't think that. Yeah, I got you. Um, interesting fact. Did you know that the word girl once meant young person of either sex? Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, before the 15th century. So, what is what a boy mean? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A bug, I don't know, man. Roach? Yeah, dusty nigga. I don't know. Oh, okay. I got you.
SPEAKER_05:Uh another fun fact about women. Um did you know that women are I don't know. I'm gonna just read it. Women are likely to suffer from imposter syndrome despite often outperforming men in school and professional settings.
SPEAKER_04:So in other ways they don't b believe that they're the greatest. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That's crazy. Yeah, even if they yeah. Yeah, I can s kind of Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I I guess I can say yeah, yeah. Uh so they're saying that women are more humble than men. Is that how you read it?
SPEAKER_05:I'm not humble, but just like I don't believe I could do this thing, but I did it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. All right, so this is this or that. Right? So I I I gathered, I I deleted a bunch of these because I knew what you was gonna say on the other ones. Maybe like one or two of these. I know what you're gonna say, but most of them I I know you, so I so um and for some reason it does a lot with uh your partner or whatever. I gotcha. But let's just do it. Okay. Number one. So this or that. Be stranded on a desert island with your partner or stranded alone but with unlimited amount of food.
SPEAKER_04:Um, it just seems like logical to do the unlimited amount of food.
SPEAKER_05:You know, you would think. So I should have deleted that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never tell your favorite family member I love you again. Or never be able to have physical intimacy again.
SPEAKER_04:This is the first one. That's like the easiest one. My favorite or never have physical intimacy again.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you can never have with anybody sex, nothing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, or never tell my favorite family member I love them. What if they die tomorrow? Okay, what would you choose?
SPEAKER_05:Me. Um see this is like, I wish it had more context, because if them niggas are dying tomorrow.
SPEAKER_04:So you just all you're saying is Or tonight? I just want to say, hey, I I I love them. I love you too.
SPEAKER_05:But you're gonna but but you have you're gonna live like another 60 years.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, I'll tell them why I can't say it.
SPEAKER_05:Like No, why you can't say it. No, no, no, no. It's not a why you can't say you can't do nothing with nobody ever again.
SPEAKER_04:You just said I can't I can't have physical intimacy. No, I'm just saying uh love them. You you I can never tell my favorite favorite family member I love them. Right. Or I can't have physical intimacy. I'm telling my favorite family member, like, bruh, I can't say I love you because of this reason. Because I yeah, it sounds like an uncle would understand like anybody's gonna understand like bruh, you mean you can't kiss or hug or yeah, yeah, have sex? Come on now. I'll be very selfish to say, bruh, I can't believe you didn't choose that. Like, that's obvious.
SPEAKER_05:We still what if they were gonna die next? Okay, you made your decision. Damn. So so it's the I love you.
SPEAKER_04:Um, yeah, I'm never saying that again. Easy, easy money.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, I thought you were saying that you would say it again.
SPEAKER_04:No. Oh, why would I? I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_05:Sorry, brother. I was totally off. Oh no. That's oh, so you just I'm fucking these houses.
SPEAKER_04:Like, yeah, yeah. I'm saying I can't have sex with my wife. I can't kiss. Right. Yeah, yeah, no. That's the same thing. It's dead. You can't have nobody. Yeah, I can't, I can't procreate, I can't have kids. That sounds very wild.
SPEAKER_05:Sounds very Tesla-ish, very, very robot, very AI in your life. Number three. Know the yeah, this is kind of simple. Know the exact day you'll die or know the exact day your partner will die.
SPEAKER_04:Um, I don't know the exact day my partner will die. Oh god.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. She's been getting a lot of flowers lately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We've been going out a lot.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't need to know that. Which one? About me.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, oh god.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, I'll definitely. Because I'm gonna play it too different.
SPEAKER_04:You know what I mean? Would you? Yeah, I'm uh yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna it's gonna be too it's going to make it's gonna make up my reasoning. Like whether I'm careless or whatever, you know, I'm gonna do either be more strict, stringent, yada yada, or I'm gonna be more careless. Either way it goes, I'm gonna play it. That's interesting because that can if you live, if you know you're gonna live to be a hundred, then you're gonna play it more carelessly. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:But what if I live for 50 days?
SPEAKER_04:Then you're gonna be very strict in how you move. Strict. I wouldn't. Strict? 50 days? If you have 50 days, I'm I'm doing everything. Yeah. No, I'm gonna get I'm more thinking I'ma get my things together.
SPEAKER_05:For your family and stuff? Yeah, yeah. It's a it's it's externally. Yeah, yeah. It's an external thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna be too worried about it. So I'm gonna make sure I got everything my forest in order. I'm gonna be more in church, you know what I mean? Like it's gonna be it's gonna be more of that, bring people to God, you know what I mean? Have a conversation. Yeah, it's gonna be all that.
SPEAKER_05:So be right with God basically is like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because you know you're you're shitting 48 days now, aren't you?
SPEAKER_04:Right. Hmm. That's interesting. So I'm I may want to know. Well, I'm I wanna know when they're going. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Even if I'm three days from now, if I know they're going in 50, I'd rather know that. I feel like me knowing, I think I have just overcame overthinking. That's gonna put me right back in that moment. If I know when I'm going, oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know if I can ever come over. I'm sure it is a possibility, but I'm an overthinker just naturally. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That's interesting. Know the exact day that your partner would die. Wow, if I knew, oh my god, that's terrifying. Would you tell them?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think I could.
SPEAKER_05:That would mess up everything for them. Not me. Um no, I'm just being funny. But that's that's that's a very interesting. You know, I'm gonna make a little thing. That sounds like a movie.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that sounds like a movie. That sounds like a good movie, don't it?
unknown:I guess.
SPEAKER_05:If you could choose, and then it could be a good or bad movie. What you trying to say? No, I'm just saying You know, if you're doing it, no, that's not just saying it depends on how you play it. All right, so uh number four, be rich but always single. Or average income but in the happiest relationship to you ever.
SPEAKER_04:Be rich or always single or happy. Um average income, happy in a relationship. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because if I if I know it's gonna be happiness, then I'm gonna definitely yeah, yeah. It's gonna be feel good. Yeah. But you know, yeah, but I'll be like, sometimes like, am I just meant to be single? Like is that weird to say? Like, I don't know if if I'm you know I mean, I'm meant for anybody.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. I'm I'm I'm kind of unfortunately starting to think thoughts like that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. And I'm not not like that.
SPEAKER_05:I could be for a lot of people, right?
SPEAKER_04:But like Yeah. Like it's just stressful.
SPEAKER_05:I like being single.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's like you don't have to uh I'm happy, and it's not even really about checking, but you know, it's like it's uh emotions, and I feel like you're managing emotions a lot too.
SPEAKER_05:Absolutely on both sides, yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, be forgotten by everyone when you die. Okay, or be remembered, but only for embarrassing moments. Be forgotten. I don't care about it. I'm dead. I feel that one. Lose all of your memories with your person, or lose all memories of your childhood. Lose all my memories.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I don't know. I I mean childhood, I'm trying to think like lose all my memories for who?
SPEAKER_05:With your wife.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, my wife.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I mean lose all memories of your childhood.
SPEAKER_04:Um, I'm I'm I'm going wife because I ain't married, but like childhood, I feel like that's I don't I don't like that. That's very hard. Uh because and what age era am I in? Because up until 13. Uh the only reason why I'm hesitant because I can relate to um younger people. I can relate to younger people when I'm like giving guidance. Like, hey, you know, I know what it's like to be in your shoes. So um I'm a go-wife. Who knows we're gonna be married for how long?
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SPEAKER_05:I knew you asked. Yeah, yeah, that was easy to do. Why even have that one? Yeah, uh, give your life savings to save your partner's life. Two.
SPEAKER_04:Not just my.
SPEAKER_05:Right. I ain't even, I don't know. I ain't this is my birth time. Reading it. Give your life savings. First of all, just that's that's big. Yeah. Give your life savings to save your partner's life, or give your partner's life to save your best friend's life.
SPEAKER_04:Um, well, I'ma go. I'm gonna go one because I ain't got shit. But uh two, uh, yeah, because I'm I'm killing off somebody too.
SPEAKER_05:Or give your partner's life to uh wait what which one you going with?
SPEAKER_04:Well, number one, I'm giving my life savings.
SPEAKER_05:I ain't got much to save your we can make it back.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. We can make it back. I'm a hustler. Yeah, exactly. I'm a hustler, homie. Yeah, it's number one.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's a hustler. Yeah, facts. Lose your partner forever or lose your closest friend forever. I I got I gotta switch partner with wife. It makes it, it makes it better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lose your wife forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's just picture like you you're in a different place.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, I got you. We're we're wife. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry.
SPEAKER_05:You would do one?
SPEAKER_04:Uh no, I'm not losing. I'm not gonna lose my wife. Yeah, the wife is like Homie, you should understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, the wife thing, that's uh it'd be fucked up if y'all break up. Y'all break up, that shit is is tragic. Uh but like, yeah, it feels like because that's under God, too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that's a very yeah. I can I can actually get that. Walk away from a relationship to save your sanity or stay in a toxic relationship to protect your family from a fiery death. Uh, I guess I'm miserable.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:All right, yeah, that was mine. That was my screen.
SPEAKER_04:That was that was cool. I like it. Yeah. Okay. Well, we can finish up with my last question. All right, what is it? And and um, could you date an OnlyFans model? I did. Okay. Well, I was gonna elaborate a little bit. Oh my bad. I'm caught. Uh I I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, that um Well not really, but Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, but there's levels to it.
SPEAKER_05:Facts. No, facts, which is yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Cause some some girls, I'm sure you see the IG and like, dang, yeah, no, they they they promote this bitch. I'm just saying super bad, like oh, yeah, like she's super fine. Facts. Okay, and I guess my second really question is um is how forgiving are you when they're extremely bad?
SPEAKER_05:Like about the OnlyFans?
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm just saying forgiving and and their flaws and the toxicity.
SPEAKER_05:Hmm. Less now.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Less now. Um like I'm saying So wait, this is a two-part question. Which one are we going with?
SPEAKER_04:Well, I'm just saying, because the my true question was like forgiving in terms of like the weight.
SPEAKER_05:Take me through it like you usually do. Do do the one, two, three question thing. Okay. All right, okay.
SPEAKER_04:So first question, OnlyFans, what what is I guess it's it really should eliminate the OnlyFans. How forgiving are you how uh according to their beauty? Exactly. A little bit more. Okay, I got you. A little bit more.
SPEAKER_05:Being honest, yeah. I feel like men are very visual people, it's very unfortunate. Um, I thought about this yesterday, not that specifically, but that it is true. Men are very visual people. Like, um, yeah, I remember going all dating all the way back to high school. Um certain women I've been with, like, they didn't care. They didn't care at all, like how they looked and how this did this and that. Then I'll be with women who's just in the house. Nobody's seen any of this but me. And they could just be making a coffee, but the shit they got on. It's like I ain't going nowhere.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I got you. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05:And um, yeah, being bad. Oh, this this describes me slick, don't it? Um, but not necessarily to now, though. You know, uh I I just I've been through that to understand, like you just really have to know yourself, you know. But to answer your question, that does help a lot. Same thing with a rich dude versus a poor man, you know. They'll be I I'll tell you, when when I had money versus when I didn't have money, for some reason my flaw stuck out when I ain't had no bread.
SPEAKER_02:Ain't that some shit?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, all of a sudden, he got this flaw, that flaw, that flaw. But when I got some money and everything flowing, it's like, I'll deal with it. Same thing with me. You know, you you you this and that and all that, but like, if you just find when I walk in, you know, to me, my personal, my personal preference of whatever that is, it definitely like like I don't know. I I have an easier way of dealing with your shit than I would if like you were just simply average. Shout out to the average woman. But um what about you?
SPEAKER_04:I think so. I think I'm I'm a little less like I'm I'm gonna be a little bit more relaxed if she's not or if she's cute versus if she's not as cute. Yeah, because I mean you're bringing an extra added thing to the table.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I still want you to chill with me and watch this movie with me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. I'm just yeah, I think that it's like you're bringing something more to the table. You're bringing beauty.
SPEAKER_05:You're bringing yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so I mean, if a man like you mentioned, if a man's bringing extra income to the table, you can rel you can be oh, okay, he left a couple dishes. I can clean that up. I can clean that. Yeah, yeah. It ain't my dishes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just like extra added reasons on why, you know, like even if you have a job, it's like, all right, I'm working 50 hours a week. There's other jobs working 40, but they're paying me$200,000 more. All right, well, I guess it's worth working the extra 10 hours out the week. Same thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I don't see him as much, but we just went on a trip to Thailand. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. I had to pay for anything. I have the great time. So it's like, hey, I'm you taking and giving a little bit. Yeah. So yeah, beauty means a lot to everybody, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yep, there's a there's a there's a I gotta do it, man. What? I gotta do it. There's this clip, YouTube. Marilyn Monroe. This explains everything. Marilyn Moreau. I had hopped in this clip too. Marilyn Monroe, uh, Rich Husband, pretty woman. Explains everything. I'm uh change my mic to the this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. Yep. She was spitting. She was spitting. Oh god. And I I hopped in that shit. And you know what's funny? One of my exes was like, she she commented on that. She didn't comment on nothing. Or or or most of my posts. Yeah, she she she seemed to find. Um nothing. Just something regular, like a ha.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that that came from somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh god. Yeah, yeah. Oh god.
SPEAKER_05:But I I agree with it though. Um, you know, it it is what it is.
SPEAKER_04:I understood. It's very understandable though. Yeah, and that was kind of where I was leaning on that second part question. Is like, okay, if she's so beautiful and she bring but she has a OnlyFans. Yeah, yeah. That's different.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Yeah. Marketing uh my woman marketing herself to other men, that's not in my soul to agree.
SPEAKER_04:But what if she's an Instagram model? Is that different?
SPEAKER_05:Marketing herself to other men. So like that's that's only I have been with someone who has dabbled into that, but she was looking to get out of that. It wasn't like somebody who's like, This is what I do, and da da da. It wasn't like that. Um but it also depends on what she does on OnlyFans, right? I wouldn't want to go into that again, just dealing with it. First of all, you know, you know me, I would have never thought I'd ever be um just being completely honest, I never thought I'd be with a woman uh doing that. But you know, at the same time, that's just what happened. And um I got I won't be telling her story, but there was like a lot of backstory with it, and there was a lot of like I see I like I see you through like what's what's what's happening, and it wasn't like what you think about when you think of like OnlyFans Girl. So because of that, that's why I was kind of open to it, and also there was an end date to it. So do you think she's on it now? I d I don't know. I don't know. The last time I spoke to her, she wasn't. Oh okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she been she been stopped it. Oh god, yeah, yeah. Last conversation I had with her. But um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But I think that if you strip everybody down, you could get to understand them more. You know what I mean? Like if you talk to a per person who's in the um pornography industry, right? You're like, oh, you're actually you're a good person. You just you know have whatever mental health issues, and you know, you this is the way you know. You know what I mean? Yeah, so you I mean, I feel like you can strip down a lot of people like that, and you're like, okay, you're you're different than what the stereotypical, you know, um OnlyFans model does.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's for sure what it was. I I don't I'm not sure if I could do that again. Honestly, I know, but like that was a situation where I thought I would never do, and just like I don't know, can never say never, but like because of that, that's um that just has me feeling like I don't know, I don't even want to say open it. I really don't think I'll ever do that again. But um yeah, my woman marketing herself to other men is not a thing that I like. Right, I mean understandable. And that's not that's not even like how some of them think, though. It's weird. It's like, no, this is a job. This is like this is very uh uh uh uh strategic and like very not even strategic, but very like concrete, white and black. Like this is not me, this is for these reasons, and da da da. This ain't even what I'm about and whatever. Not even just talking about my ex now, just talking about a lot of other people.
SPEAKER_04:And like what if he's she's like has a beautiful body but she's taking uh a bikini picture, does that bother you?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, if it's marketed to other men.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, what if it's just on IG?
SPEAKER_05:If I can understand what you're if I can understand that you aren't chasing validation, then it won't bother me. But if I understand that you just worked out and you love your body and you like man, fucking I'ma just show it and whatever, I could deal with that better. But if it's like I can sense that you're chasing validation from social media, that's gonna change my mindset a little bit. Because that's a different place. Because I shit, you know, when I once I got into shape, I start throwing this shit up and throwing, you know, putting my abs out there. I got my homies hitting me up. I told you I'd be having everybody on the phone. They'd be like, yeah, bruh, Steve just out here doing, you know, roasting me and all this type of stuff. But like, nigga, it ain't for y'all. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm trying to figure out how to be Michael B. Jordan. Like, I'm trying to figure out how to do the, you know, like Will Smith had his time and everybody that come up and actors and all this, they had a time where they they, you know, all that. So I'm trying to figure me out in that sense. It's not for validation, though. It's like I'm trying to find the sexy me in this, because you know, I see it or whatever. But like there are people that like do that and don't say nothing. And they just be like, no, it's just a I was just on the beach. Like, I'm being honest with you telling you. Like, I I want to be like one of them actors that can do action and be sexy and da da da da. I respect them more, but like if I was just like, nah, that ain't nothing. Yeah, that seems more like you're trying to be validated from social media. So yeah, yeah. Emotional intelligence, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But I feel like not having the validation part is is rare nowadays. You know what I mean? Like, I can I like can I really realistically fault you for not wanting or for wanting validation? You can't when that's majority of people on social media, yeah. So I was like, I'm just saying you gotta be above the average. And I was like, that's just a mental that sometimes it can be unfair to the person. Like for me, I don't like me is I want you if you're doing this, I want you to ask yourself why am I doing this? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like, and I want you to know that it's because I want validation from others. I want you to be honest with yourself. I don't want like I kind of realize that, but I at least want you to be honest with yourself. I would respect it more if someone said that, but they have to stop. No, that's what I'm saying. I don't even I think that that's uh uh uh average feeling, and I that's an under I can totally understand it. I'm not gonna fault you for wanting validation for others, because we all want that to a certain degree for sure, yeah. So I'm not gonna be mad at you for wanting that, but I want you to know, like, oh, this is why I do this. And I'm and you go with that with the intent. I just don't like when you're lying to yourself. And that's what that's why I like. Like, hey, I I like to feel I like when other, you know, I like when people, you know, talk me up and make me feel good. Yeah, like that's a fat ass girl, yeah. That and that's probably what she what she probably really likes. And she's not gonna say it because it sounds bad, but that's real. It is real, yeah, yeah. I mean, you even how much flat um uh what's what's um Steph Curry's wife, Aisha Curry.
SPEAKER_05:Which is where are we going?
SPEAKER_04:No, when she was talking about like, you know, I don't want to do anything with the validation, but I want to hear people say, You look good. Yeah, yeah. I yeah, like as much crap as she gets, she's at least being honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and that means something. Somebody who's willing to argue say, hey, this is actually how I feel. I guess and she gets crapped on because of it, but I think that's somewhat a little fair because she's that's fairly common place to be.
SPEAKER_05:That is a deeper way of looking at it. Yeah, yeah. I yeah, yeah. I don't even know how to tackle that. Yeah, yeah. But like I do understand which that that's very vulnerable for someone to to open up and even say that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I just it's like it's vulnerable, but also it's like like why why are you lying to yourself when we know it's not and that that's like even whether you tell me, I want you to be like why? Because I I feel like you've never asked your question. That some because the the why is a big thing, which you mentioned previous podcasts, it's very huge, and a lot of people don't live into that area of like, dang, why do I react like that? Like, let me think, let me what caused this as a child that I need to further dig on this. I've had those times, so like, you know, it was a time that I was lost and I couldn't find my way home, and that's why I have a panic attack, you know, or or whatever. And then like, you know what? That's actually real, and now you can tackle that thing. It's like, okay, that's just me tripping. That's not something you did, or you know, or or I'm scared when I see clowns, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's it's just like okay, that happened when I was five years old when I was watching the movie, yada yada. And then you can kind of understand where yourself a little bit more because a lot of people don't know themselves like they think they do, for sure.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and don't do the work to even know, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_04:I because I I there's countless people like, you don't know me. I'm like, you don't know you, you don't even yeah, yeah. You you think you're way bet better than what you are, like you're above this, yeah, and you're not. Yeah, at least be real with yourself. You're not above this. How many uh there's countless times I have to teach people who they are? It's like you would never handle that situation like that. So the the way you think you're taking the the big way out is not you, you stoop to the lowest levels. I really don't fuck with you. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's like so I think to me that that's the best way to progress.
SPEAKER_05:Just know exactly who you are. Yeah, everybody got a different body, a different brain, a different my flaws aren't your flaws, your flaws aren't mine. Like we have to move differently. Like me fasting and oh, by the way, I did a three-day fast last week. Yeah, you told me Friday. Oh shit, you know.
SPEAKER_04:That's actually dope every time you ask like I don't know how you do that.
SPEAKER_05:Uh yeah, but like I have to, like, because of how I'm made, like I gotta reset this shit. Like, because I'm gonna I'm gonna get lost in a cycle of some, you know what I'm saying? Like, you have to know yourself, be honest with yourself, like a lot. That's the only way to to to to to maneuver to a better uh uh person, you know. So shit, everybody gotta do different shit. Right, right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, uh and my my last thought, this is something separate. When I was driving, um three individuals got in the car and one uh lady sat up in the front seat to the back, and then you know, it was like, hey, how you doing? And she's like, I'm doing good, I'm going to my first date, you know. And I was like, Cool. And then it's like, yeah, we're we're we're you know, we're going to be watching pretty much. Like they're you know friends. Yeah, they're friends, exactly. Just like make sure she's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And I I found that interesting. I was like, was this your first time? I was like, no. Like, okay, so they kind of like, you know, I was like, Y'all gonna have like a little earpiece and tell her what to say in all the game, you know. So we just chatted about that. And I just found it interesting to like question people on their first date experience, like how are they gonna go into it? Like, are you nervous? It's like, you know, and it's just it's I think that's one of the best parts of just like driving. Yeah, yeah. Like when you get to people in their own experience of how they handle things, or like, okay, so what's a you know, I was like, what if he has a booger and his no or something? It's like, yeah, hygiene is very important. Like, do you it's like the question was, do you uh easily rule somebody out on the first day? And and the answer I feel like was yes. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like it's easy to do that. Definitely with dating, they can do one thing wrong and like, nah, he's not for me. Right. It's like it I was I was trying to get to like forgiveness. It's like, hey, this may not be them, it's just they're nervous or they're this, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Which is hard to see on a first date.
SPEAKER_04:Right, exactly. Yeah, it's like hey, you gotta actually know somebody, like, like actually really talk to them, but just like, hey, you know what, that could have been a one-off or whatever. And I feel like we don't really give each other grace that way. But maybe we're not supposed to have this much access to people anyway. Because she talked about somebody at her job, and we talked about this before, and and this it reminded me of the podcast. Uh she she dated somebody at her job, and now she kind of has to see them. And I was like, it's it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, I don't date out my job, and you know, I'll very try hard not to do that, yeah, because once in that situation, like you don't even talk to her. Yeah, and but at the same time, on the likewise, it's like you're also learning so much about this person, you know, eight hours out your day. Yeah, right. That's so hard not to like fall in love with the person that you're really knowing and how much y'all y'all know that y'all meant for each other. Yeah, like because like y'all just naturally got things in common. It's not like you're trying to go after talk to them, y'all just teamwork, y'all have to work together, yada yada, and and then you're just gonna naturally talk about your days and things like that. So I just found it interesting. But that was stuff.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you actually have a very, very, I think I said this last last podcast, which is how you maneuver conversations is very um, yeah, and somebody who watches the podcast definitely told me that too. Like it's very um, I don't know, like it's like professional of you. Like I don't, I I don't I think the last podcast, like, it really trains you how to do that. Or your last podcast. Okay. It trains you how to do that. Uh, but yeah, you're very you can you can navigate conversations very, very well.
SPEAKER_04:Uh thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, you know, that's that I I love that's like I genuinely um take that compliment and I appreciate those compliments. Uh, because one of my my cousins says something, she's like the executive producer of the voice. And then she's like, Justin, you could do my job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or she she's some type of producer, not maybe executive, but she's a producer on the voice. Last time we talked to her for NBC or whatever. And then she's like, Yeah, you can actually do my job. And I was like, Oh, well, that's actually very complimentary of you for you to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I appreciate whoever said that. Yeah, yeah, it feels good. Thank you. For sure. Yeah, uh, I think we did it. We did it. All right, and we will we are actually leaving. I want to almost go say the old podcast, mention that. But this is two for the culture. We'll be back. We love y'all. We'll be back. Yes, sir.