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Two for the Culture
Groupie Stigma, And Why Honest Rejection Matters
We unpack a packed week: the thrill of a Brandy and Monica show, the reality of leaving early to beat the surge, and how crowds mirror the ways we manage time, money and attention. Then we cut into dating gray areas, honesty over ghosting, and the weight of status, access and labels.
• Late arrival concert strategy and crowd logistics
• Coco Jones performance and opener talk
• Nashville demographics, migration and city myths
• Debt payoff, COVID-era choices and optimism
• Wealth reading list and building durable businesses
• Time management, scheduled study and focused growth
• Ghosting vs honest rejection and respectful boundaries
• First-night chemistry, clout, and future potential
• Intimacy as servitude, compatibility signals and standards
• “Former groupie” stigma, double standards and social status
And we are back with another episode of Boys in the Vill. No. What is no? It's not Boys in the Vill. I thought you was playing. No, I was not playing. I was just going with it. Two for the culture, Lord. Yes. What happens when we miss, you know, miss an episode, miss a week. Yeah. It's back to what your mind goes into. I was like, what you mean, though? That's it. I thought you were the culture. Yeah, that was my old podcast. Yeah, that was a that was a while ago, and somehow I'm still saying that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. How long ago was that actually? Um two years, maybe. I would say. Yeah, yeah. Maybe two years. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Maybe, yeah. It was two years for sure. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, time flies by. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh but we got a great show lined up for you tonight. I think we're gonna have a lot of fun. For sure. Um, but yeah, let's let's start, let's get into it. How's your weeks, I guess I should say?
SPEAKER_01:Damn, what what what was that like? Um nah, I just um the the main thing that I did uh was went to go see uh uh Brandy and Monica. That was dope. Um I really am gonna start going to more events and stuff. I was I was invited there, so I didn't just wake up and be like, hey, all right, I'm going to the Brandy and Monica concert. But um I was invited and uh it was just dope. It was it was a really nice experience, you know. They were just literally right there. It's so it's it's so surreal being in front of these people that um you know that that you admire their music or whatever type of talents that they have, and just to see them, it was just like crazy.
SPEAKER_05:But um and so um Kelly Rowland was there? She was? I'm asking. Coco Jones was there. Yeah, Coco Jones. Yeah, I heard Kelly Rowland was on the tour too. Damn, for real? I came late. Yeah, I came fashionably late. Oh, you did, oh you did?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, on purpose. Oh, okay. I was like, yeah, they be um not knowing that I mean, duhs, Brandy and Monica, they're gonna have like actual great openers. Right. But um I was just thinking that, you know, have you been to a concert before? And they're just like playing music, the lights be on, and it'd be forever.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I thought that that was uh gonna happen in general, literally with any concert that I go to. So I went like an hour later.
SPEAKER_05:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then while I was walking down, Coco Jones, she was performing, and then right after her, this hype man dude came out, his voice sounded familiar, so he's probably somebody. Um, and then they started the show. So I really came on time for real, for real.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, depending on how you look at it. Yeah, exactly. Because I think that's skipped the credits. Uh Money Long was it was supposed to be a part of the tour too. That actually makes sense. But um I think she was sick, so they brought on Maya on during the tour. I don't know if she was on the Nashville show, but uh so but she was a part of the tour too. Uh just temporarily um sitting in for um Money Long.
SPEAKER_01:No, I didn't know that. I saw well, like I said, I saw Coco Jones, she was killing it.
SPEAKER_05:Who who uh did you was you familiar with the records?
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She had some radio hit that uh ICU was one of them.
SPEAKER_05:Probably I can't remember exactly what there's another record that I can't think of either. Yeah, but I mean she's a phenomenal singer, and I think she's from here too. For real? I think like like maybe Lebanon or something. Oh wow. Yeah, I didn't know that. I think I may be wrong.
SPEAKER_01:Uh super killing it. She was killing it. I was trying to find my seat though.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. But yeah. Was it a packed house?
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah. For the most part, I say if it was I don't know, you know, like when when they turn the lights off and all that, that's when everybody really starts coming in for real. Okay. So like um I say when I look back, it was probably like a good 90%.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. Did you have a preference on which um artists you like the best?
SPEAKER_01:You know, uh I'm well I I'm I automatically listen to Brandy more than I do Monica. Okay. I have a couple favorites, and you know, like I was invited to this, so I just started putting their stuff in rotation. And it was a couple other more Brandy songs that I that that I like. Monica Monica's energy and vibe and personality, I really love that though. Like you could tell, like she's just she's fun, you know, and um she really shows that she's from Atlanta, like in the the the the the set and stuff. So I may not have as much Monica songs on rotation, but if I had to choose between the two to hang out with, I'm probably gonna go like Monica. I got versus yeah, but Brandy Brandy just got hits. Well, both of them got hit, clearly because they wouldn't even do this even done the show. But yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Did they perform The Boy is mine together? I left early. Okay, so you left early, came late.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean I came before the show well before they came out. I came before they came out. I just wanted to leave before, you know, like the the crowd dispersed and stuff. Okay. So I didn't leave like super early. I just left like probably right before it ended. And since the the the tourist called that, then yeah, it's probably the last possible second that they were gonna play that. But I could tell it was about to end. And I was just like, nah, I probably let me just go get out of here. They gotcha. Make sure that uh the surge pricing didn't get surge pricing. That and just like the crowd in general, just like everybody's up. It's a lot of people, you know, you gotta walk past everybody through everybody. I had to pee. And I'm like, man, I ain't finna I ain't trying to like an airport. They got you. Yeah. No, I feel you. Yeah, but usually games and I haven't been to that many concerts, but like big, big, big, big events, I'll probably leave like right, right before everybody else does.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, I got you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's just a smoother way of getting home.
SPEAKER_05:All right, make sure I don't go in these shows with you. Hey, you you gone, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I'm yeah, and because I I guess I don't I understand exactly your point. Like, now I gotta wait to get out this and like waiting in line. Yeah, so I totally, I totally understand. But it all depends on who it is. Because there's a lot of things I'll leave early just because my attention is just not grabbed. But I'm if I'm enjoying the time, I may stay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely was enjoying myself. It was that was the most black people I done seen in Nashville. Right.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, that's hilarious. Yeah, yeah. Everybody definitely showed up. Yeah, no, you gotta think about anytime if there's a metropolitan city, it's gonna have a lot of black people. Because historically, um government jobs is really where a lot of black people found work. Um, because it's uh it's less dip uh discrimination than what you're gonna get at a um uh a private company. Yeah, because it's based on their discretion. So yeah, and um so but nonetheless, so anywhere you go, whether it's you know, all however north you want to get or uh like Midwest, if there's a metropolitan city, they're gonna have a lot, it's gonna be highly concentrated black amongst the state that you're in. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so yeah, yeah. So yeah, but we're you know, I I tell people who, you know, people from north, you know, think that you know Nashville is a Republican. I'm like, it's a democratic city, just like you know, any any really metropolitan that you go to. Yeah. So it's gonna have a lot of black people. You just gotta know where to look. Yeah, but it's not gonna be Memphis or Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just a map. I do not see DC.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, those are just usually certain spots. It's very everybody got their circles. Exactly. Exactly. Well, it's only two circles for real, for real. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_05:So, but then everywhere else in Tennessee, you know, yeah, yeah. It's pretty much yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you got like places like in Chattanooga and stuff like that, but yeah. Okay, facts, yeah. Yeah, but none, but I mean, it's still not heavily concentrated as Memphis would be. Yeah, because that's damn near majority black.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, and then when you when you travel outside of it and you realize how diverse it can get, it's just like how did uh uh everybody just get here in practice?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. Just his history. Yeah. And it um I was I don't know how somebody upon it, well, I guess I do know how, but um I was w looking at a chart and then um it was pretty much talking about like you know migrating into different areas, but historically black people don't move. I can believe that. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, how you know how many white people come here? I'm from California, I'm from here, I'm from here. You the if they're black, they've probably been here. Most likely. Yeah, they're from here. That is something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Something. But how was your past two weeks?
SPEAKER_05:Um, same old, literally, same old, same old. They ha it hasn't changed, I don't think. Um it's just, you know, working, grinding, paying off debt. You know, it it sounds, you know, when I describe it, it sounds, you know, poor. Yeah, and and there's actually a lot of things, so like, dang, you know, um just family members and health things, and um that is like, you know, it's like it's but it it is just a true testament to how you always know it's like um the older you get, the more, you know, people are gonna pass away. You know, yeah, it's just it's always that it's always gonna be kind of lingering presence as you know, like though, yeah, you're you're just gonna be friends, family who's gonna be gone. Myself included, obviously. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so it's just kind of things like that. Yeah. But it you know, it is what it is, it's life. Um, so but then not to sound morbid, but my my weeks have been good. I'm enjoying, I'm happy. Yeah, um, yeah, yeah. I'm excited about um the future. Um I I think there's gonna be big things coming my way. Yeah. Um, so that, you know, so it's just really, I think three years, um, and I'll start to see some of the the work that I put in, the true fruits of my labor. I really do feel that way. Yeah. Um, because during COVID, there's a lot of things, decisions I made that I'm now paying for. Right, right, right. Like in bad decisions. Like uh to where I was like, I I was doing really well, and I was like, I shouldn't, you know, I shouldn't make this decision. Or I was like, I should pay more on my debt now, but you know, like I'm enjoying my time, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah. So the more that things lingered on, the more I was like, I'm gonna have to pay for this, you know. Exactly. And that that day has come, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah. So it's it's but I'm not mad, you know, because I I knew it all along. So I saw this coming, you know. Yeah, yeah. So, but I'm thankful I'm in a position to where I can hold on. Facts. Yeah, so I'm so I'm not mad. Um, but yeah, but yeah, so it's it's just kind of the same things. I I do feel like I'm growing still. So and hopefully that'll always be the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm good. I'm good. Do you um have well I don't know how many like books and stuff you read? Do you have any um suggestions for like wealth books?
SPEAKER_05:Um, you know, I can always yeah, I think that my they always talk about rich dad poor dad, which is like always the go-to. Yeah, but I think uh under um uh uh overlooked, booked, is um it is um I'm I'm saying it wrong, but it's it's pretty much uh the power it's the power of broke. Um and what it was is the um it's probably it's I'm saying it wrong, but the undertitle is like um being broke is a privilege, the privilege of the the opportunities of being broke. Oh uh it's by Damon John. I but it's called the power of broke and whatever the subtitle is. Um so pretty much what it's it's talking about is they talk they take different um not only celebrities, business uh minded people, um owners. Um it talks about how what they made of the opportunity of them being broke at the time, how they had to hustle, how they had to find ways to make things work with no money. Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it had different stories like from um Damon John, his own, you know, taking a van and selling clothes out of his van and then putting his clothes on celebrities, and you know, how that gave him advertisement and just finding different ways to make money and how that um actually being broke and how um I'm missing the word, but um, but just finding different opportunities to make money when you don't have any. Um and I think that's it's it's motivational. Um and it you can take things for granted when you got a lot, and you may not find the other, you know, different avenues of what you to be creative. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I think that was that's a really, really good book, and I would um recommend that to just as much as I would like a rich dad word at.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's the next um the next book or or a few that I'll buy is the like going toward like the wealth, the wealth thing. I see like so many ways to make money and stuff, but it just feels like it feels like is it's something that I have to keep reinventing. If it's like social media, most of my you know the knowledge is from social media. So, you know, selling certain things or certain stores and all that, it just feels like I have to keep constantly reinventing. You're gonna you go you're gonna have to keep constantly reinventing anyway with with anything that you do. But I'm just more interested in finding a way to create something that's like for like a need of the people to where it'll always be around, to where I could make a business and just sell that shit because it's it's gonna stay there. Like a tax company, a laundromat. Certain things that everybody you always need it in certain areas or you know, dealing with certain demographics. So yeah, the No Well Books is the the next the next thing that I'm looking for.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I got you. How you feeling? Do you feel you do you feel like you're moving in a circle? Or do you feel like your trajectory in life?
SPEAKER_01:In life? Uh no, it's definitely not a circle compared to like last year. Um, no, this is totally different. It's definitely different. I'm happier, I'm more fit, I'm more closer to God, more I'm reading now. I'm definitely elevating. I just uh you know that that term, you know that term, things aren't as bad as they seem, but they're also not as good. Yeah, so that's just how I think of it. Like, yeah, I'm here, but like I want to be like better, constantly just want to be better. There's there are things to improve on, to, to gain more knowledge of and things like that. So I'm just trying to not try, but I'm I'm actually if I'm lacking in some area of knowledge, then I I I tend to now seek it through um books. It used to be audiobooks, but like I'll actually I actually study the books though. So it has to be like one of the top ones for me to read for that specific area or that subject because I'm like in class for real. Just write kind of like I do with the Bible. So yeah, it's it's super beneficial. I feel like smarter every day for real.
SPEAKER_05:That's that's really good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's a lot of vocabulary words to have to catch up on.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I definitely understand that. Yeah. Do you feel like you have a lot of time in the day or not enough? Um well let me reass that question. Do you think you're using your time wisely?
SPEAKER_01:I it's it's it's it's kind of like relative to well for me, it feels like as long as I feel like I'm steps of ahead than I was last week, a month ago, whatever, then I feel good about it. But it does feel like when I'm usually like locked in, it feels like there's not enough time in the day for real. Because I I have to schedule in like an hour to read this book, or an hour to read this book. But there's there's a plan for the knowledge that I'm getting for this specific book, and the faster I get this knowledge, the quicker I can elevate on the other side of this thing. So it's it's beneficial, but sometimes I do be feeling like, damn, bro, it's 11 o'clock. How did it even get to 11 o'clock? You got to put time into working out and all it's it's so much stuff that it just feels sometimes it's just not enough time in the day. But uh that's why I'm very selective with what I'm doing. I'm not just reading um cat in the hat or something just to pass time by. Just like, how do you get wealthy? How do you do what are the steps? Da da da. Let me do as much as I can right now. So next year this is a different story. Uh, or just like, you know, more of an elevated um uh uh result of how I'm living uh versus years ago. So I I think I'm I think I'm on track and doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER_00:I got you. Yeah. Understand.
SPEAKER_05:We can finally, you know, yeah, we always get the introduction and after it it takes about a third of the time typically or you know, close to that. So we can really get into it. So um a c it wasn't last episode, but uh uh the episode previous to that one, um, we had like kind of left off of a cliffhanger. Uh and we was talking about how you know if a girl is really into you, can you be the person to kind of reject them or let them know that you're not interested? And I do you remember kind of how you landed on that? I don't. I think it was a somewhat of a yes. I I believe it was yes. No, what you said was um you like you kind of ghost a little bit. I think I used to. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I used to. Okay. Uh like things have a way of lingering away, you know, kind of like lingering off type of thing.
SPEAKER_01:I think yeah, but not not in the sense that you're saying it right now. When when um I wish I wish I could like replay that, but the but fading away was one of those fading away is one of the things.
SPEAKER_05:I feel like it's a norm for everybody. Yeah, but if they're really interested in their hanging on, if you're not interested, uh-huh, then that aspect doesn't is not a possibility. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, like either you're not responding, so it is essentially ghosting, uh-huh, or you know what I mean, or you actually got gotta respond to the text or keeping it short or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So you're intentionally there's an act there.
SPEAKER_01:Um I don't you you know, uh unless it's a mutual ghost, which nine times out of ten is usually the thing, you know, is the the haze and the good mornings and all that just start fading out on both sides or whatever. But if it was for instance, um uh uh and I actively think about that, if something like that it were to happen or whatever, like there was a time where a girl was interested in me, and we had a few, we had a couple conversations or whatever, it was dope. And then I wanted to start pursuing somebody, like I wouldn't even say that I was pursuing her. We were just like cool and we would talk sometimes, but she would hit me up to the point where I realized I'm not responding back as much because I'm like pursuing somebody else. And eventually, when I realized I had got a message or something, it was like, damn, you forgot about me, or something like that. And then I was like, Oh, okay, I gotta address this, and then I'll actually address it and then say, Hey, you know, just let you know like I'm like pursuing somebody or da-da-da-da. So in those moments, if it were to ever get something like that, I would have to say something. Like, yeah, the the the mutual ghosts, cool, whatever. It's you know, ain't nobody feeling hurt. We already we could literally tell that we both are uh fading out. But um, if it's the opposite, I tend to think of that as um that that is a time that you have to say something. Because it's kind of it's kind of weak for real. If you don't, well how I look at it, it's kind of like you just uh you hyped all this stuff up, I guess in a way to get this person to f feel some type of reason that they can constantly keep hitting you up over and over and over again. And then like you actually had to have some type of a conversation. And it's funny because like I didn't even end up talking to that girl, and I still hear it to this day. But I just like, yeah, like that time that you fucking talked to that other girl instead of me. But uh even though we just cool, we don't even talk like that. But yeah, I guess I think it's very important to address that really hurt her feelings that you chose her. I doubt it. She be dating, she was on dating shows and smoke.
SPEAKER_05:That don't mean anything.
SPEAKER_01:You're right. But yeah, but I mean, I I don't know. No, she would say that. She would definitely say that often. Like, like I'm I'm actively dating what you doing today. Uh I'm finna go out on this date. She was actually dating.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, I just told her, hey, I'm pursuing somebody, so I'm not gonna talk to you. She will pursue people and then just like, hey, what you doing? And I was just like, I I I couldn't do that. So you couldn't do what? Uh for for instance, I was actually trying to pursue like some connection or whatever. So that was the reason why I told her, like, hey, I'm not hitting you up as much. She would actively date and still hit me up.
SPEAKER_05:You get what I'm saying? I I I totally understand what you're saying. Yeah. I don't see the problem in that though. Me either. Okay, okay. I'm just saying what I would do. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like so you so when you're talking to somebody, you put all your eggs in one basket, pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:Not as much anymore. Not as much anymore. I usually fail when I do that. Or or um, no, no, I wouldn't even say usually fail for real. Actually, yeah, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes if something starts off and then you put everything into it, then or me, and I put everything into it, it's a bigger chance of um it it ending as fast as I put like all my eggs into this one basket. So um, yeah, naturally these days I would try to take things a little slower.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I gotcha.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Or do you feel like it just depends on the person type of thing?
SPEAKER_01:It does. That it that does too. Yeah. It definitely depends on the person. Because I I remember seeing my um you know, like you you see somebody, you just know, like, uh, I I think that's like I could get without. You know, I felt that a few times before. Um yeah, so you can yeah, everybody's different. It's a different energy, it's a different spark that you feel right, right.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, when you're around them. I I totally agree. And I think it's definitely um a coming on us to where we gotta kind of reel ourselves back in. Yeah, because we can get excited, you know what I mean, and you know, everything, you know, it feels right, yeah, but you're only going off of the information you know about them at the time. Yes, everybody. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what that's what I'm saying. It's like, hey, I you know, we see what our eyes first, you know, and then they say the right things. Yeah. And you may align on a couple things, and then you know what I mean, the then the wheels really start to go in. Yeah, but it's on it's uncomfortable on us to be like, all right, you know, this we've been here a million times, yeah, yeah. And it's always this. Let's settle down a little bit and still gotta take it slow and check the boxes. Right.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know you were in a wheelchair. What you mean? No, I'm just playing.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like you meet her and she just rolls in to the the restaurant, right? But um, that that would throw me off though. Not gonna lie. Oh, I don't know why I just said that. Yeah, yeah. That that would definitely throw me off. So if a girl was hitting you up and then, you know, you weren't feeling her with the whole ghosting situation, would you just say, I've been working a lot?
SPEAKER_05:Like what what would you Yeah, I just things now I'll be honest and say that I was uh and I'm still not the best at giving like hurting somebody's feelings or turning them down or rejecting them. Um and I haven't yet really tr found the words to to where I can feel comfortable and saying, hey, I'm not feeling this moment, you know what I mean? Unless you piss me off, then I have no problem telling you how I feel. But uh but other but otherwise I can't uh so I I haven't gotten there totally. So it's I can be sometimes maybe filled with uh excuses if I'm trying to um be honest with myself and be if I'm a harsh if I'm being harsh critic, I would say that it would be cowardly out in a cowardly manner. Um I'm I'm being my harshest critic right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't want I don't want to put it light because it's it's uh because I I do feel like that in a way. It's like I can't remember in that moment. You know what I mean? I remember feeling like this. Yeah, I I'm if I'm being being nice, I would say that I sugarcoat a lot. And that's probably really where I land. But my harsh critic is like, Brad, that's kind of cowardly. You should oh you should give the respect that you want to somebody else for yourself. So you will want to know the things that you're doing wrong, sure. You should get that. Now, I also don't want to be super direct because that's not who I am by nature. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. Right, right, right. So, you know, so I have to kind of find place things, and then I'm also figuring things out and not and not and I also don't want to burn a bridge, yeah, that they may be the person for me later on, too. So I always want to keep that door open a little bit. Yeah, and that's kind of like for everybody, yeah. And and I don't know what that means or if that's good or not.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I get exactly what you're saying.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I don't want to be over like that person's actually meant for me. And uh, she ain't gonna be like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. If I say I don't like white women, I'm using that as an example. Like I want my my wife to be black or something like that, then I pretty much told her no, uh I'm not doing this. Yeah, you know what I mean? I'm using that as a quick example.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I will say, even though it did um my my my experience with that, it did kind of z mess up a little bit. I I I wouldn't even say long term, it didn't mess up anything. So, yeah, I feel like the other way, it could just I don't know. Long term, I think you get more respect when you just tell the truth.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Yeah. I d I and I totally agree. And you know, like, hey, actually, I didn't like this thing. I should have said there's plenty of times where I should have said what I didn't like. Yeah. And it shouldn't have came out when I was frustrated. Yeah, yeah. Or when time to where we're grind apart to where like honestly, I didn't like that thing. You did that one time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. And I was like, hey, you know what? When you had a bunch of guys or that guy that you didn't tell me about was blowing your phone up. Mm-hmm. That felt uncomfortable because now my safety's in danger. I'm using a real life situation. And I was like, now my safety's kind of in danger because he really likes you. I have no idea what's going on. And you know, I'm talking about yeah, so that just felt that vibe was uncomfortable for me. And sh now she has a chance to respond. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, hey, actually, you know, that he was a he he we never talked. Or or whatever. He just got my number and was blowing me up. You take that out of proportion. And I could have responded and we would have back and forth. And maybe it would have worked, maybe it wouldn't have. Or you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, actually. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, I I I actually respect stuff like that now that I think about it. Um yeah, I told you about another time I was talking to somebody, and then like she could have just easily ghosted me. Like super easily. And then she actually just told me straight up, like, hey, actually, didn't really fuck with when you said this. And da-da-da. And I read it, I'm like, Oh, I wouldn't fuck with that either. And I'm like, okay, well, yeah, yeah, I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like this, da-da-da-da-da. And then, you know, you're you're you're friends again. But um, right, right. I respect that too. I definitely respect that too. Cause they can they can easily do that. Easily, easily just go shoot and just keep moving.
SPEAKER_05:Right. Absolutely. So that was cool. Like, I'm glad. Do we put a button in there or not really? What you mean? Uh, because I got some silly goofy stuff on that I I think I think you know. Yeah, we do we did that. Okay, all right. So uh I'm I'm not trying to make this to a you thing, but uh I'm gonna just ask the question and it just kind of go where it goes. Alright. All right, so uh you're you're popular, right? You're popular amongst social media.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-oh, I thought we were yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you meet somebody same night. We're take everybody out of this. You're not talking in in this world that I'm scenario I'm giving you, you're not talking to anybody. Right. All right. So you you go to a concert, you see um a fine little chick, y'all catch a vibe that night, and then you I have it's a several part question. Um you have sex with her that night. Does that disclude her? Disclude her for what? From dating you in the future. Uh no. Okay. She gives you head that night. Does that no? Okay, so those two things at all does not stop you from talking to her at the future. This is same same day meeting her and you having sex with her that night.
SPEAKER_01:So it's got it it'll be like a little bit of something. But I'm what I'm doing right now is taking what you're saying and giving grace to the fact that maybe she still could be my person. Okay. And we just had this strong attraction that I ain't never did this before, she ain't never did it either, type thing. You don't know that. I don't know that I've graced this situation. Okay, I got it. So yeah, if it comes off, if it's coming off as like, oh, this was too easy, yeah, then nah, I'm it's over with. Okay. But if it's like, if I had to try a little bit, it's just like we just really had a strong attraction to each other. You know, I I will be thinking about that the next day. Yeah, the next, the next seeing how everything goes back to normal and you know, the regular life stuff, sure. But I would be thinking about it, but I still think there's a possibility that it could be cool.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, okay. Yeah, um, is there I'm I'm gonna go back to it, but um while I because I won't forget, if she doesn't um give head, does that disclude her at all from having a future with her? So she's like, ew, I don't do that. I never will.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I never will.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Her other qualities gotta be fire. The moes gotta be at 100%.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. Is is that because you enjoy head? Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. Straight that should be making me feel like a man. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So I yeah, the the sex could be fire. I could put it down and all this type of stuff, but like never? That's wild. I just think that's wild. Yeah, yeah. No, I but there are there are women out there.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I think there's plenty. There's a lot, yeah that that find it disgusting. Yeah. Um, and yeah, so it's shout out to them and their partner, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And you know, like I and I land somewhere where where you do. Is that it's for me, yeah. Um, having sex is better than hair, personally.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-uh. Uh yeah, it is for me too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:For for for the most part, you know, given every situation's different. But yeah, yeah. But it's like the act of servitude is more. So for me, it's like, dang, you don't want to please me. Facts. That you're unless you get something out of it, then that's where I'm like, that seems kind of it's like a character issue in a little bit a little bit. Yeah, yeah. If I'm over if I'm overthinking, uh-huh. Yeah, like that's a little bit of a character issue.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's what it is too. Cause when I think about it, just the just sex in general, I don't really like do it for me. It's just more like for them type thing. So that would be the only thing that like you're clearly trying to do this for me. So it I maybe that does have something to do with it. It's just like, oh, okay. Um it feels like a balance or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. And so now let's go back. I just wanted to because it was on my mind. So I went before I forgot, I wanted to kind of start start there. But anyway, um, so back to the situation, you know, y'all have sex, she's vibing. She knows you from Instagram, is what I that's why I was saying you're popular. She knows you from Instagram. I forgot about that part. So um, do you does that play in a factor in how you think about somebody? It's like um it's like my um celebrity, yeah, exactly. Like you just fucked race so silly versus you may not think that, but like it's it's psychologically in your mouth because you it's clout.
SPEAKER_01:I you know, I don't be thinking about stuff like that until I talk to a friend of mine. Like either you or Ken or whatever, like, yeah, bro, you also race so silly, bro. I was like, oh damn, I forgot. Like I am that too, but um usually when I connect with somebody, usually when I connect with somebody by the time all that stuff is happening, it ain't like race so silly anymore. It's it's like it's actually me. We done had like a deep conversation or uh what do you mean?
SPEAKER_05:You met her that night. So so but she's still a vibe, she's still a good time. And so I was saying her having sex with you, her giving you head, that that's that doesn't discount so silly thing now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, um, I really be thinking about it. I think it it would yeah, there was no type of conversation, because you you're talking about a concert, right?
SPEAKER_05:Um, yeah, sure. Well, I was just thinking like, okay, that's the one. That's a vibe I gave, and I think so. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the only reason I said that was that means that there's no conversation between it's a concert, and then the only conversation we would probably have is either on the way to the crib or no, no, no, like maybe after or something.
SPEAKER_05:Let me give you a more specific situation. Let's keep that concert scenario going. And then you're leaving, she's leaving. She's like, hey, you're Ray So Silly. Can I get a picture? Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're like, she's fine, she's a 10.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, no, I dare if that happened, I know for a fact Ray So Silly fucked that note.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, okay. So that's so so that's already a note. She takes a picture, she's like, hey, you know, me and my friends are going to this bar. Do you want to come? Uh-huh. You're you you're you. Yeah. So this ain't no you up, you're a millionaire. You're you at this moment. Yeah. So, like, hey, I'm planning actually going home. Like you said, you left the concert, went home. Yeah. They invite you to the bar. Um, they're like, actually, we got bottle service here. You know what I mean? So, like, hey, we had this plan. We want you to come along. It's me and my girls, and then you come. Would you go? If if you're sing, yeah, you're a single man, nobody's involved, you're not talking nobody. Yeah, you yeah, okay. You go. Yep, yeah. She's a vibe, she's a great time. Y'all, y'all have you have your natural conversation how you do with if you're talking to somebody, you get to know her. She she does well, you know. Yeah, yeah. And she's a good time, and then y'all connect deeper.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, shit. Yeah, I mean, that the way you explain that, it seems like there is more grace on that then.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, but she knows you as race so silly, though. That's that's why she invited you. She ain't just obviously you ain't the you're the only guy there, so she ain't inviting niggas that you know what I mean. You're probably not the most attractive dude at the Bridgetone Arena. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's not just attracting dudes. Here, and you didn't say anything to make her go. She you just was raised so silly. Race so silly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, that that that would be. I think my thing is is that I'm so used to not thinking about that, I wouldn't even know that until like the next day.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, I got you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So when the next day when I think about it, then I'll be like, oh damn. I I don't I don't know if she actually like vibed and shit. Well, I I mean, clearly she vibes and we vibe together.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But I would I it depend, it depends, it depends on the girl. I and the reason why I say that is because I've hang out, I've hung out with people that may be like a little standoffish, like a harder shell that you gotta crack. Um, and then you'll hang out with somebody who's also a vibe, but you could tell they're like a little too friendly, like a little too open. So that same night can be the same for two different women, and I could still have a different respect level the next day for both of them. Because it's just how they move, how they are, you know. So I I still be feeling like most of them be lying anyway when they say I ain't had none in a long time, and I ain't yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:You know, that is what it is, but and I'm saying that y'all you're y'all talking about dreams and goals, you know what I mean? She she's she's she's telling you about her family, everything, you know what I mean? To where it's like, hey, I'm really getting to know you, yeah, at this moment, so the connection is different, yeah. You know, it's not just like hey, yeah, we just drinking, turn up, take shots, you know, try the clock, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, I I would give that yeah, that person definitely uh more respect. It still again still depends on the person and the vibe. Okay, because like two people can say the exact same things, but just like the the inflection and all that.
SPEAKER_05:I I totally agree with that statement. I like that. Yeah, um, um, okay. So you know, we ain't just done. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So now you you so you agree that you're willing to build onto that connection if that's just amazing, yeah. I mean, uh it don't gotta be just amazing. It was cool, it was a good time. You enjoyed it, you liked it. I mean, what is amazing? You know what I mean? Like, is that the connection you build when you like somebody? Like, all your connections has been amazing when you first got to know them. Not really. Some. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. So I don't want to be like, oh my goodness, this this girl you missed out on. Like, she ain't.
SPEAKER_01:If I did feel like that, I would wake up the next day and be like, Yeah, it's it's calm down a little bit. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, so yeah, so but you are agreeing that you're willing to go further. You get to know this person, you really like her. Um, you haven't uh put her in the girlfriend box yet. Right. But to find out that she's slick a groupie on the law. Uh-huh. Is that gonna stop? Like, she's a former groupie, excuse me. Former groupie? You're you're on the fringe of y'all going together. So she I'm she's a groupie as a single person, but she's loyal as when she's in a relationship. Uh-huh. You can work. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I got you.
SPEAKER_01:Because nah. Nah. I remember I remember talking to somebody one time, and she was just joking around, but she said it twice. Like in a matter of months, that we were just being friends and cordial. And she was like, Yeah, but sometimes I just want to be a hoe. Like Spidey senses, just like super went off. And then I went on her Instagram, and then she had a video, and it was just like hoes be like, or something, and just made a joke. And I'm just like, My girl can't think like that, you know. Um, yeah, that would that would change things for me a bit. Would would it for you? Um I don't think it would for you. For me, you don't think so.
SPEAKER_05:You you think I can deal with a groupie. I think so.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, why is that? I feel like I feel like your response would be something like, well, you know, at least she'll find something to do on Saturday nights while I'm working. And I've heard you say something crazy like that.
SPEAKER_05:Um, yeah, you heard me say that to somebody who I didn't deem a groupie though.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I know, I know, I know. But I'm just saying, like, so what for you?
SPEAKER_05:So and and let's build let's let's build on what you kind of just said a little bit, because that's a conversation in itself. That's a boundary thing. That's not yeah, yeah. So which you're in talking about like, hey, um, in uh previous relationship, that like hey, you can date other women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's really kind of reference you're bringing up. That's a boundary thing. That's not that that's the boundary of our relationship.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, so she groupy to to to yeah, yeah, yeah. Caitlani.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, if she grouped it to Kaylani and just her, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I was just saying, all the all the yeah, we take men out the total equation.
SPEAKER_05:So I mean, but but yeah, if that's the same for you, is that if I said she's just a groupie to one female that's super popular, is that gonna that's gonna disqualify her? I just don't know. Probably not. I don't know. I don't know. Probably not. You think so? Uh as my girl?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Is she a groupie to other girls? No, one one woman. You just named one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'd be selfish. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:No, so that wouldn't even go for you.
SPEAKER_01:I don't uh nah. I don't want them to like nobody else but me.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, that's I think that's in him and um like that's just an impossible situation.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean, sure, there are other people that are you know that they're attracted to and right, right, because like like is very loose.
SPEAKER_05:Like there's a difference between liking and actively pursued pursuing. You know what I mean? Uh like attraction is attraction. That's like. You know, yeah, yeah. You can't really help but to be attracted to somebody. If they feel all the qualities, yeah, there's a bond there, then you're gonna like that other person. But I what I tell people how I feel in a relationship, I know that, I understand that. It may somewhat feel away. That's something you you keep to yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so that that that's saying, like while we're together, it's not like no, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were saying before we got together, she was just this major groupie for whomever. And then they got with me, and then they're like super, super loyal.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I was just saying you find out that she had sex with Trey Songs and Chris Brown.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_05:That type of groupie, not that she's gonna like I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_01:I I it'd be it's hard. It's hard to it's hard to look at it like that. What you mean? It's hard to look at it like that, because like shit, maybe you know, when when one thing I learned about LA is that when you're in the circles of those people, it's almost like high school. It's like it ain't the world anymore. It's like it's condensed to celebrities. Okay. So, you know, you'll you'll be rubbing shoulders with Trey Songs at this party, and you might rub shoulders with Chris Brown at this party. Uh-huh. And then at the next one, you might see whoever and whoever. So to say like they smashed this, this, and this, I can kind of see how that can happen.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:If you're in that world. Um, but if you like backstage hopping, like trying to get in with the this celebrity and all that, I I feel like I would respect that less.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, so I'm not saying that she's Karuchy to where she dated Chris Brown for you know what I mean? No, she yeah, she's a groupie. Yeah, she got smut out by Chris Brown and left, you know what I mean? And left. I'm trying to give a grace back to the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she didn't date Chris Brown. No, yeah, yeah. Chris Brown, no, she has she met him and had sex with him. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. So that's the groupie I mean. Yeah. Uh even if she's amazing and has all these qualities.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, it just depends. I think it just depends on the girl. Cause like shit, at one point, if I met like certain celebrities, I'm smashing too. If I go to the their concert or whatever, and then they like give me the eye, definitely gonna try. Uh oh. So there's some sense of like I can see it. It depends on the girl. It depends on the girl. Because there's the but you said the word groupie, and I I I only think of groupie as one thing. Like, it ain't no, yeah, it's very like in coloring in the lines. It's like you're this one thing, and that person I can't get with. Somebody who's deemed a groupie.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, and to in what you said earlier about like, you know, if it was me, I would have definitely, you know, had sex with whatever celebrity that's beautiful that you want to name. It's like groupie though? One, that's different as a man. Yeah, because of the double standard. Well, I don't even want to call it double really, it's not as much of a double standard as people might like to think. It's because men, it's it's very easy for you to get a man versus a woman willing to have sex with you of high of higher caliber based off of you know what I mean, picking you out in a concert, that's completely different. Those aren't really a double standard, you know what I mean? Those are actually just separate because that no doesn't really happen. A woman giving you access versus you giving them access is is completely separate, I think, if you ask me.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it's still a double standard. I think I'm I'm gonna be called a groupie before I would.
SPEAKER_05:I could but I I mean, yeah, there are groupies, I think there are male groupies, I agree with that point, but uh yeah, a woman giving you access based off of seeing you is it's highly unusual to where I don't call it a a true double standard. Because those situations feel completely opposite. Because men pretty much to be careful stick their dick in anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, versus a woman, she doesn't give everybody access the way a man gives them access.
SPEAKER_01:You're right.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, so that's why I'm saying it's like really polar opposites in a sense. So you you you can't picture self, well, I do it too, it's like that's not even the same situation.
SPEAKER_01:But I know I'm a well, I don't know. I think we're saying the same thing, but the conclusion isn't the same.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I would if if if you're saying I do it too, that's I don't look at it literally the same.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody that's what I'm that's what I'm saying about it even being a double standard. It's just like I'm not gonna be called a groupie for real, unless I'm just fucking wildin'. But um, yeah, they're gonna be called that way before, like a a man would. So um I just it's because of that and because of how we think of women who just basically throw themselves out there, just the word groupie alone just has a certain negative connotation, negative, yeah, that is just a certain type of like personality and decision-making skills that it just doesn't align.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, I I think yeah, I and I that's a very good point. I like it because I agree a hundred percent. Is that yeah, like the the the same person who's giving you that energy that you're really getting to know on an intimate level is not matching the groupy energy that she's given. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that person who's very intimate to you and a somewhat level knows themselves a little bit better. And that and typically you don't see that in a groupie that's just wilding out and making bad decisions, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. But I I do say that, but I wonder I don't know if I know groupies enough to uh to have that level of understanding, you know what I mean? Because like the times I have Uber, there's two that come off the top of my head when um I was there it was this one white lady, and she's like, you know, I I met Waka Flacca and then you know I wound up hanging with with them. She didn't say she had sex or not, so I don't know if she did. But then she's like, you know, I also know uh what's the golf first John Daly? No, the white dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The old white dude? Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, yeah. And he has a bar downtown, so whatever that. And she's like, Yeah, I know him, yada yada. I was like, how do you know all these celebrities? She's like, I'm a hoe. You know what I mean? But she was very, it was very fun. She was a good conversationalist. So I was like, you know, that sounds very groupie-ish level. And then the NBA Young Boy um concert, I've driven these two girls, they were both both very pretty. And one was way more drunk than the other, to the point that they were backstage, and the other girl um was mad that the girl fell asleep and backstage. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then she's like, Man, you know what I mean? You everybody everybody like trying to kick you out because you're you're asleep backstage, you look crazy, you're embarrassing me. Um, and she's like, you know, and he's like, you know, I don't be I don't be giving it up like that. And then she like, what, and but and then the other girl's dry. She's like, well, you know I'm a groupie. Yeah, and so I was like, maybe they do know themselves on a level than yeah, uh, then what I think I realize. Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so facts, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh I wonder if they yeah, that that that makes sense. Usually, from what I hear and see, even on Instagram, if you scroll, the girls that look like groupies, like, like they look like it. You know, they give the vibe of, you know, if I meet Chris Brown, I'm fucking. Like, yeah, yeah. They give that. So yeah. That's why I said two two women can say the same things, but like how they the inflection, the the mannerism and all that, some one thing could be said, somebody could say the sky is blue, and then somebody else said the sky is blue. Like, and it's just two totally different meanings, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And and it's interesting because um now that I'm thinking about it and trying to put myself in some way, their shoes, I'm not a woman, so I can only do that a little bit, but maybe it's the uh the adventurous side of them wanting to have sex with Chris Brown, then ultimately them being uh horny. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, I he out of everybody they chose me. That means I'm beautiful. Oh, yeah, you know they feel like yeah, yeah, and then and then it goes to a point like this is a story I can say for the rest of my life. This is like, you know, hiking up Mount Everest, you know, or whatever they have in their mind. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's more of an adventure than them doing a sexual act, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. Yeah, so so like maybe are we not given enough grace?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. It had to be a whole nother universe for real. Like different rules and stuff, because otherwise, yeah, it just it just is what it is for real.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I think we need we need to have like a female on the pod or something. Yeah, no, we definitely do figure this out. Yeah, we definitely do.
SPEAKER_00:All right, we'll we'll we'll we'll get it.
SPEAKER_05:We'll work, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I I'm just thinking it out loud, like maybe because you know, when I hear older women talk about the things when they do when they're young and how they have a smile on their face. Yeah. But I was like, that's like hoish. You don't even tell me you you you disgusting. I don't value as much.
SPEAKER_01:Right, yeah, that sucks. It does. It does kind of suck, you know. I I definitely know a lot of guys who well, all of us know a bunch of guys who just like ran through women and they still got this like status about them and all that. But you know, if a girl after a certain point, you know, it's a it's a it's it's the the proximity is you know, just kind of small. Let's say like for a college or a school, and on this specific place, if that that shit starts traveling, like nah, I was with her, I was with her. I was then the value is shot. It's over with. But the dude on campus, that's he's him. So it just it kind of just is what it is, you know. I I don't even have um uh a cure for that, it's just how the world is.
SPEAKER_05:Right, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't think that'll ever change.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I think it's that's innate in us. Yeah, for real. You know what I mean? Maybe that's just how we're wired. Yeah. And I think that society tries to dewire you from that, and it may kind of seep through it a little bit, but we still have that, like, there's something ultimately wrong with this. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I and yeah, and and maybe get to a point to where we're like not innately thinking about it or or thinking about it, but subconsciously we are like there's you can look at a situation like I don't know exactly what I'm seeing, but this don't look or feel right. Yeah. Yeah. So I think we've all had that in whatever situ environment we was in. Like this don't this feels wrong. You know, like you're you're telling me this is right, but this feels wrong. I don't feel good about this decision, even though I don't think it's wrong. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, both of y'all can have yeah, on on if both of y'all's list was the same amount, it's just like why why why is it like the same?
SPEAKER_05:So yeah, and it and all it depends, because I don't think I have like uh I have and if your list was next to mine, I'm I'm like, all right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I'm saying not not for like um I'm saying just for the most part in general, just man versus woman. Like, yeah, if if um just just piggybacking off of the the double standard thing, is it ain't never gonna die out. Ever. Yeah, a woman who's who hasn't done it with that many people and all that, like as soon as I hear that, I be happy. Hear what? Like they have not um had too many partners, and if it's like a really, really low number, yeah, I'd be like, for sure.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's the idea of being chosen amongst others as well. Yeah, that too, yeah. Yeah, it's like, hey, you're yeah, you're you're taking the chess on me and you're you're thinking I'm a good decision. Yeah. Like maybe do you think that has something to play with it?
SPEAKER_01:Um or to do with it?
SPEAKER_05:Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. No, absolutely. I think if a girl heard that too with a guy that she likes, and he's like, no, I've only just this very small amount. And she, you know what? I think you're right with the face that you just made. I think you're right. Because women do love men that are wanted by women.
SPEAKER_05:I think, yeah, I think that we all have that a little bit. Like, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't think that if you're like, hey, I never had sex with nobody, like, what are you a loser? Facts. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, damn. But no, I think I think it's more more so for women. Because if I if if I see, I don't know, if I see uh a girl at a club with a bunch of dudes, and she could not have done anything with them. It's just like kind of like, hmm, all right, you hang out with a lot of guys. But if there's a guy and it's a lot of girls around him, it's almost just like a Status. But like a power, like some some po some some sense of status. Like I see.
SPEAKER_05:I see what you're saying, though.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:It's definitely a difference. I yeah, I I agree. I think so.
SPEAKER_01:I've read it so too many times. I've heard women say it, you know, like I I don't know what it is, but maybe it's some sense of desire. Or like you said, like, oh, you chose me, but you have like all of that going on. You know what I'm saying? You got all that that feminine energy around you, but like I want him to choose me. You know, that I I believe that is a thing too.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I this I think we did it. Do we have any final thoughts on this one?
SPEAKER_01:Uh final thoughts. Yeah. I wouldn't even risk it. Yeah, my hour.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, I got I got you. All right. Well, this is two for the culture. We'll be back. We'll be back. Yes, sir.