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So You Went On A “Sexual Wellness Retreat
And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devunter. Steven Ray. Yes, sir. And we're back.
SPEAKER_00:Back at it. How you feeling? Uh I feel good. I feel good. Um Yeah, man. What's uh what's new?
SPEAKER_06:What's new?
SPEAKER_02:Uh nothing much on my side. You know, I'm always gonna be same old, same old. I I am tra we are traveling now for Thanksgiving. So I guess we can really start there. I'm going to Detroit. You're going to Memphis? Going to Memphis. I got you. And you say you're picking up your daughter.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, me and Kaya will be out there. My cousin said, my cousin said, um, no, I well, I asked her, I was like, hey, you gonna be there? Because um, you know, I'm coming with Kaya uh pumpkin. Okay, um, you just told me about her. Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then uh she's like, When are you gonna be here? I said Thursday and Friday. She's like, You only gonna be here for two days, Junior? I was like, bro, I ain't finna be in Memphis too long. You know But uh yeah, so that that that should be that should be really fun. I got you. Uh who's the better cook? Your mom or your dad? Dad. Oh, okay. Yeah, crazy enough, right? No, he he cooks, yeah, he cooks I I think maybe it was just the effort. He would always go on uh Food Network, he would get recipes. I I I'm gonna start doing I actually just started to to cook and shit, but um he used to get recipes and then just try to remake it. One of his favorite shows was Emerald Live. You remember that? Mm-hmm. Bam! Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was his guy. He used to hit that the same thing. Yeah, you know he did. The white man. You can just imagine. But yeah, that was that's too funny. He definitely used to do that. Yeah, that's uh who was like the the the best cook in your family.
SPEAKER_02:Um my mom, for sure. Yeah, has done she's she's just good at what she does. Yeah, so um she rarely misses. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so I'm looking forward to driving up there. Oh, yeah, yeah, because the plan was like at first, um I was thinking about getting a doing a flight, but with all the the government shut down and everything, I was like, yeah, I'm probably not going to get a flight. You know, I because I was like, it's probably gonna take me just as long, potentially, to get through the airport than just driving, you know, and now I have to worry about it and think about it. Um and then, you know, I finally got my expedition out of the shop. So I was like, yeah, I can, you know, now that I have a you know a second vehicle, I I need to put that more into use anyway. Um and then the government shut down and they kind of had me uh end it and it kind of had me thinking. I was like, maybe I should get a ticket. But at that point it was like last minute, and I was like, I'm kinda already settled and I can leave on my own time. And yeah, so I'm back doing that drive. Seven and a half, seven and a half, eight hour drive, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're uh just driving by yourself? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I'm going um leaving th probably Thursday morning, getting back Sunday. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:So you'll get there at uh the afternoon.
SPEAKER_02:Probably that yeah, three, three to five PM is my expected time. I'm thinking in my head. But you know that's about literally the same time that I'll be there. Yeah, and so maybe the same time I'll probably leave around maybe seven in the morning and get back at um three. Uh uh. Because we're we're still on central time. Yeah, you said what?
SPEAKER_00:Uh Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So most of everybody is staying um for for that amount of time, Thursday through Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right. And that's actually kinda a little longer for me because I'm typically back um like maybe that Saturday or Friday. Yeah, I'll go Wednesday, come back Friday or something like that. So Okay. Yeah, so I think it'll be good. Spend time with family, my sister, family's and my brother's coming. So um, so we all like to get together, have a little fun. So we'll see where we go with it.
SPEAKER_00:Um the uh uh uh when you were talking about going to DC, the the family that's there, are they gonna be in my sister? Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That makes sense, then you want to get right into it? Yeah. So uh you got anything on the docket before I land?
SPEAKER_00:Uh no, no, I just got some random okay.
SPEAKER_02:So we both got random things. Yeah. So I want to be like this first thought. Like the first thought that comes to your mind uh when you hear jellyfish. I don't know. It was just the first thing that came to me. That's not like I hold up a blob picture and like what do you see? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's would you but before we get into it, would you do therapy? Would you go to therapy?
SPEAKER_00:Uh uh yeah, I would. Uh damn. Like I I was reading this book um called Law of Connection. And it showed that blob thing in there. And then I was like, damn, it's it it says like different personality traits or things you're probably going through or whatever. If if you have like a uh uh if you pick A, A is like this looks like a tree. B this is the devil. C, da da da. Um that was very interesting. But yeah, I I would uh I don't know. I don't know. I I think I would, but like I say, I think I've had this conversation with you before. It would only be for so long. Like it would if I went through something traumatic that I couldn't deal with by myself, um, then I probably to be honest, I don't see myself going into therapy unless I'm like in a relationship or something.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Like just being completely honest with myself. Like I would try to figure that out. Or like Why relationship? Because then like you're looking at somebody else, and then I don't know. I I I could see just because I've been to therapy when I was in a relationship, I could see how two different sides, and then now you need somebody to kind of hear both of y'all out or to to have better communication or something. I've seen that happen.
SPEAKER_02:Was that the same life coach you were telling me about? Yeah. Okay, so he wasn't a therapist though, right? He wasn't a therapist. So you didn't technically go to therapy.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe I didn't. But uh well, I mean it did it felt it was in a way. Um I did like it. I I just feel like I just feel like therapy, I feel like if you stay on the subject of something negative or something that's going wrong, you make the habit of constantly thinking about that thing. So if I go to therapy and we're constantly talking about my issues, what am I doing? I'm developing a habit of constantly thinking about my issues. Do you get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, can you give I feel like I understand what you're saying, but can you give an analogy?
SPEAKER_00:So for instance, if I'm in a relationship and we go to see the therapist, instead of this, we instead, you know, you can walk out of there and feel like better about um, I don't know, like the whatever the issues are going on or whatever, but at the same time, you're walking in there and you're thinking of what's wrong. And that's you're making a habit every time you walk into this door, into this room, of thinking about what is wrong with your relationship. You get what I'm saying? So you're making the habit of constantly thinking negative thoughts.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I I guess my approach into going to therapy, like couples therapy, I feel like that's glass half empty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mines will be more of how can we make this better? So you're bringing up the concerns you have to somebody who is trained in that area, somebody that can give a little bit more information and to how to make things work.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that I that's the other side to it. So I I I get it. But yeah, but it just, you know, I I just feel like that habit thing is is real as well. Which is why I said I'm not opposed to going to therapy, but I'm opposed to staying in it, okay, like for a very long period of time. Like the issues need to be dealt with so we can get out of here and move on.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, understood. Okay. So I do I think I don't think that you're thinking like this, but I do want to bring up that if you think you're thinking about it less is not do you think that's gonna help or not? What? Like, because you was like, hey, I don't want to think about the things that's constantly going wrong, but if you don't think about it, that ain't gonna help the situation. That issue's still not gonna be resolved.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm saying like the going so much that it is now a habit. So again, like I'm cool with it, I'm cool with going and dealing with certain things, and you know that um I don't know, when I when I did go to of course, my only experience is going to like the whole life coach thing. That was a way for me to kind of see her side a little bit and for her to see mine. In some ways, first of all, it was a guy, and we we slick was homies. So it it wasn't gonna work out for real. If you understand what I'm saying. It's like it just seemed like after a while, it just seemed like it needed to be somebody that I didn't know, maybe like uh a woman or some some something that I'm not really familiar with, um, just to make sure this is strictly professional. Yeah, but there were times there were times where he was like, Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're saying, man. And then like I I liked it, but also I'm like, I'm slick cheating in this.
SPEAKER_02:But um What was her takeaway? Uh but I will uh the now it reminds me of what I really um was gonna bring up was we are constantly evolving though. And so you going to therapy, you know, on a recurring basis, I don't think is a bad thing because we're also gonna be growing and there's gonna be different concerns that be are brought up. So that same concern yesterday is probably not gonna be the same concern in the future. So we still want to grow together in a sense, you know what I mean? But uh but you're saying like still go every week? Who says it has to be on a weekly basis? Uh-huh. It could be, you know, on a monthly basis, you know, like for for example, when you go to um your doctor, you may have something concerned. I don't want to put an illness on anybody. Yeah, so I don't want to be able to have cancer, but uh you may have an illness, and so like, hey, I need to see you on a weekly, monthly basis to make sure this is not getting worse. Uh, but then those checkups may become like, hey, now we're back on an annual basis or every quarterly or every six months, whatever. And so it could be more of that. It's like, hey, y'all are doing great, y'all way better than what y'all got out. Just check in with me, you know, in the next four months.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I can see something like that. Um but the yeah, uh there would have to be still something wrong, like for me to be in there.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Well, just following up and just because he's he's gonna be the one who can see the progression. You may not be able to, you know, take your shirt off and see with the results. Um and and they may not see that in you. Y'all just kind of grow. Um but I did want to get back to the question I did have. How was what was her takeaway from those sessions?
SPEAKER_00:At first, it was um it it showed from her reaction to me, it showed um that she was understanding me a little more or a little better. Uh, and then eventually I think she kind of um felt like what I just said is just like a guy's perspective, like, you know, I don't know, constantly trying to get her to see certain things or whatever, and it the balance didn't feel it didn't feel balanced. Yeah. Do you think she was smarter than you? Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Nah. Nah, yeah. For you know, the we were um uh uh uh we kind of like grew up differently. So yeah, I mean talking like private school, this, that, yeah, yeah, yeah. So um yeah, in in that sense, uh a little bit, but I don't think that had like too much to do with the the the the therapy though.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. I was just her her analyzing the situation. Do you feel like you know she could she's like, hey, her analysis is really good for what she sees, you know what I mean? Uh-uh. And like, okay, so she's able to pick up on a lot of things quicker. Uh-huh. Um, just in general. Like, so I'll use that therapy session as an example. Like, hey, I may I'm probably gonna be biased in a lot of situations, but I can clearly tell that he's his analysis is not a professional one because he's guaranteed he's really kind of just leaning on him being in a relationship, but like, yeah, she's a girl. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So I'm saying the times that where she's analyzing a situation, she's probably more right than her just being, hey, you know, this is how I feel, you know, my you know what I mean? So it's more of a logical perspective than it's just always how she feels, you know? Does that clear it up a little bit?
SPEAKER_00:Uh the uh the a little bit. Okay. I mean I the only she can speak about her experience. I wasn't in those that that room with her. Okay, so y'all had separate. You we had separate.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I thought y'all were together. Uh-uh, no. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:No, we was probably together maybe once. Oh, okay. Once, maybe twice. But um, yeah, no. Uh, so that's what it's kind of like you could just get the sense of what it is. It it we could get the sense of how each of our sessions were by how we came to each other after the sessions and like the things that we would say to each other. So um that's why I said that I I felt a little bit more understood and all that, but I I felt like it wasn't both of us was picking up on it for real. And then I just kind of felt like it just doesn't really feel balanced in a way. Um, because I should be leaving these sessions, uh at least of what I thought, you know, I I'm trying to be a better boyfriend too, you know what I'm saying? And and and all that. So I need to be leaving these sessions feeling like, all right, Steve, you need to see her on this side and that side. And I wasn't getting a lot of that. And I felt like I could have gotten a little bit more of that. Uh and I eventually she had picked up on that feeling, and she wasn't wrong for real. So um, yeah, like the the next time that I would go, I'd rather it be probably definitely somebody I don't know. But um, you know, yeah, it just started off like as a mutual friend of both of us and it's a cool guy, whatever. Um so it was cool. It was cool. It helped out for a little bit. Um and yeah, after that, you know, uh it it just felt like shit just went right back to what we were in the first place.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, did it help when you was constantly going or it was Yeah. Okay, so but when you stopped, um did it get worse as you would still continue to go, or is it when you stop, it's kind of when you saw the hill kind of go down a little bit?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, when it went stopped. Okay, stuff just kind of like went back to kind of how it was. And again, like I'm I'm not putting I'm not putting a like a lot of weight on her side. I don't think you are. Yeah, it was a both, both of us thing. Right. Like, yeah, we didn't um like I said, that that that that situation, like both of us was tripping a lot. Uh yeah, in terms of not really buckling down on doing things that you have to do to grow in a relationship. So um, yeah, therapy. That's how, but that's why I say I can see that more of uh being a reason to definitely go because you're with this person and you can see y'all are mirroring the flaws of the other person. So if I'm just by myself, shit, even if I am, I I might be a little messed up or whatever in some ways or whatever, but like I'm not gonna know that for sure until like way farther down the line, if uh uh versus me living with a woman, like we're gonna be mirroring everything. So whatever flaw, that shit gonna come way quicker than or it's gonna have to be dealt with way quicker than you would be by yourself. Because like you don't, you know, the life is just different when you're living with your partner uh or always around them than you just being by yourself.
SPEAKER_02:So um my next question is, and I want to get to the BS too. Uh-huh. But yeah, we always fall in into a deep conversation. Um, is would you do live with your partner again, your next partner? Um, did you find that like really helpful? Besides rent and expenses, I feel like people come together a lot more quickly than they have in the past, and and it's not just because of like today's standards. Well, it's more because of the economy. You're like, hey, if we can save rent costs, let's do it. We love each other. You know, but if that wasn't the case and uh you know, income expenses was an issue, I should say. Do you think that living with your partner you could do that again? Or are you like, you know what, I would have actually took my time or came together when we're married?
SPEAKER_00:I wouldn't come together when we're married. It would be before then. Okay. For sure. But um I would do it again, but it have to be like after a while. Like I I would need I would need to be in my place. First of all, you know, I've um I'm basically just now um like being on my own type thing. Because I've been in like a like long-term relationship. The last long-term relationship I was in, it was like six years. That's a big chunk of my life, you know. So, and we were we were living together for basically that whole six years. And I I got into that after I left Memphis. So the time that I could have moved in somewhere by myself and experienced that, like I was in a full-blown relationship, and it just went from me staying with the I don't know, the family or or or uh uh in an apartment with friends and stuff to now I'm in an apartment with my girl. So now that I'm uh by myself, like I ain't getting rid of this for a while. So I yeah, I would have to be extremely deeply in love with somebody, and then I still wouldn't move in with that person to maybe I don't know, I don't have like a time frame on it, but um yeah, I don't I don't I don't have a time frame on it, but the way I think anyway right now is just like I would need a lot of time to to make sure that that's a move that I would want to do because that's your whole life changes, everything changes when that happens. And like I I really enjoy waking up and going to sleep when I want and you know doing whatever I want. And just should just be changing. You know, the day to day, the alright, are we gonna eat the same thing? Are we gonna well I wanna watch this, but I I guess I'll watch that later and we can watch this. Like everything is different, and also a lot of things can be a positive as well, though. But um I I I did want to ask you, like, are you in therapy right now? Have you been? No. Are you going?
SPEAKER_02:Not anytime soon.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so would you would you go?
SPEAKER_02:I would if it was free. Uh but uh to be so what I tell people is that I'm uh for the most part an open book. I do keep things to close to my chest. Um I think I've said it, maybe I maybe said it on another podcast, I'm not sure, but if I can't talk about it freely, then I'm truly not over it. And um, so I'm I'm saying all that to say that I'm pretty much an open book. Um, so I have so many people who have a lot of wisdom that I I think my mom is like a pretty much a glorified life coach. So, you know, I I come to her, my mentor, you know, the thing that reminded what you were saying about your um like you coming away kind of enthusiastic a little bit or you wanting to feel that way about your relationship when you was talking about the therapy and things like that. That was I was getting a lot of that from my mentor, is that it's like, oh, you know, there is light at the end of the tunnel. You know, there are things I can work on, you know, it felt good about the relationship and it made me wanted to do more. But like you mentioned, eventually, you know, that you know, as as I stopped, you know, seeing them a lot more and speaking on it, speaking about the relationship uh to him a lot more, it started to kind of a little bit go by the wayside and it was back into that, you know, not depression, but you know, things not going well in it. Um, so I definitely know what you mean. But therapy, I think would be good to do it, but you know, it's just time out the day. I don't really feel like a super need for it. I hear that people say when it's calling you, that's when you should seek it. Um, and I don't think it's calling me yet, but I am open-minded to it. So somebody, you know, was listening to me talk, because sometimes you can hear um people, they may not say a thing, but you can be like, I'll make it simple. Like, you hear somebody talk, you'll be like, bro, that nigga crazy. Like he's crazy for real. Yeah, it yeah, and so sometimes when I hear people talk, I was like, you know, the way that he speaks about himself, you can tell he's very insecure and he probably needs somebody to talk to. Yeah, so um, so if I hear that from other people, like, bro, you know, like you straight, you good, you know, you sound like you know, you about to jump off a bridge, you know, and then like, okay, maybe I need to speak to somebody, you know. Or I or maybe it's a key phrase because sometimes, like, for I'll use an example, is um when I was driving this lady, she uh her dad was in the music industry and she was kept on talking about own ownership and owning her masters. And I was like, um, I was like, you know, did your dad get screwed over? You know, and then she's like, Yeah, you know, actually he did. You know, they took all his, you know, um his publishing or whatever away. And like, now I always focus on ownership because of that trauma. So I was able to, by her word, she wasn't saying directly, hey, my gap, my dad was getting effed by the music label. Uh, I was able to like, hey, I can tell the way that you constantly bringing up ownership that something happened, you know, and you're not in the music industry in particular, your dad was. So what happened with him? So sometimes when I say things, I was like, I don't that may be a uh a trigger for somebody to be like, okay, I can tell that there's an issue here because the word is you use this typically correlates to X. But you know, so far, if if it may have happened, nobody kind of mentioned it to me. But um, I'm sure there's gonna be an element to it to where I need to probably be in it and be like, bro, this is the best thing because I hear great things about it. But since I'm, you know, have so much people around me that I speak to um that are willing to not be the S man and tell me the things I'm doing wrong, I haven't found this the need for it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, that's that's the thing too, of having um some sense of community uh uh uh around me, um, which I don't really feel alone for real. Like I don't feel like I don't express myself or talk about certain things. I I feel like with most of my friends, um yeah, even even if it's like laughing through it or um you know, something that'll throw me off in my week or whatever, I'll actually say these things and I can hear like talking about it in general, you know, when you start hearing what you're saying and like thinking about that um versus holding it in, you actually have these conversations, and then like you know, somebody might ask me, like, so how did so the the what'd you do after that? Or like did you blah say blah? And then you answer these questions and it could be a normal conversation, but like then you're actually thinking about yourself, you know, and you're like, oh damn, I I actually felt like this, this, or that. So having a community around, it definitely does. Um, it's probably like a major thing for me that makes me feel like I actually do have people to talk to. Not necessarily on a mentor level, like I mentioned last uh podcast. Um that is something that I should definitely uh um look and and and and seek to to grow as a man. But um yeah, for the most part, that's that that is um that is something that I feel like it's extremely helpful to have that sense of like um I I I don't know. Like I said, community or camaraderie, like you we're we're in this thing together type thing. And I I can talk to y'all about stuff and then y'all can talk to me about stuff. So that definitely helps out. Uh understand. Yeah. So uh I went excuse how to do it. Hold on, I did want to add I did want to ask. Um do you think that you could live with a girl? Like, do you think you could live with your partner? Have you lived with your partner before?
SPEAKER_02:Quasi. You know, like you know, we we I had this the apartment back in 0201 days. This is when it was Tate, Cordero, Jalen. Uh nah, before Jalen, and uh, and me. So it was four of us, and then she would always stay there. Uh-huh. So it was like but she had a dorm room that she could go to at the end of the day, but she never went. Uh-uh. So not really, but yes. Yeah. Um, do I think I don't, you know, my mentor always advises against it. You know, he says that you should wait, you shouldn't, you know, shack up in your relationship and you should wait till you're married to um to uh to actually live together. And so I'ma lean I'ma take that guidance.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna move in on the I'ma try to take that guidance. Oh my god, right. What a roll of the dice. I can't even imagine that.
SPEAKER_02:Not I mean That's crazy, man. Me and my ex-girlfriend, we didn't live together, but I was over there often, so I know that our habits, yeah. Yeah, so I guess I can see that right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, it ain't the same. It ain't the same. If y'all could leave, yeah, you could leave. When you can't leave, it's not the same. Yeah, like when you can calm down after an argument, when you can, you know, I don't really feel like going over there today. Da-da-da. You could do all that, but when you can't do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but if she wants you there, then it's kind of that on the case.
SPEAKER_00:I'm saying all around of the relationship. She wants you there, she don't want you there. She kind of same thing for you. You want to be there, you don't really want to be here right now. You that you gotta deal with all of that. It's not the same.
SPEAKER_02:I I agree. It's definitely probably not the same for sure. Um, but it is it, do you think that I think that humans are fairly malleable and they can like change fairly quickly. We very much bred to adapt to change, I think. So like we may not want it and it may not feel good, but over a course of time, like how long does it take takes a couple weeks to break a bad habit or something like that? Yeah, so I mean, after, you know, I'm sure I'm sure I'm probably thinking naive about it. But maybe after a couple months or two, it's like, okay, this is fine. As long so it's really about focus on choosing the right person for you. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's um, I mean, um that's obvious, but also making sure what you don't or do like and sometimes being in a relationship. And realizing, hey, we're not aligned in a lot of areas. Like for for for an example, what I'm really speaking to is are you open-minded? Are you willing to change for for us together? So say if say if I always leave the toilet seat up, am I going to take try to make a constant effort to put it down for you? Okay, those are things that we can do. Hey, I don't, I'm not sure what bad habit, like I don't like shoes in the bed, for example. Um, then make sure you have your shoes off. Is that so hard to fix? You know what I mean? So we're just trying to conform to each other. You may like your shoes in the bed, but for me, I thought it's crazy.
SPEAKER_06:Let's say I said, first of all, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm just using the ex a quick example that's coming to my mind. I'm sure there's others that you know I may find annoying. Uh, like for example, you know, I ran water as I washed the dishes. Uh-huh. She liked to fill up the water. Oh, and the grandma's be doing. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh. Yeah. So that those are, can I conform to that? Is that something that is a hard line for me that I can't fix? So I'm just saying, as long as I'm with somebody who's committed, like, hey, I'm not gonna, this is not a line I'm willing to like die, a hill I'm willing to die on. So that's very important to me. It's like, hey, do you love me enough to fix this thing that I've it's hard for me? It's, you know, when a my peppies, then, you know, we can talk about it. But as long as you're willing to be able to understand and care for me enough to make those changes, then I'm willing to work with you in that way. That's why, that's why I'm saying, hey, living each other is gonna definitely be adjustment, it's gonna be tough. But if I'm choosing the right person who truly loves me and cares about me, isn't that's not gonna be the end of the world? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I agree with that.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Yeah, that it does scare me to not live with the person before marriage, though. That scares me.
SPEAKER_02:Right. But I mean, so but it's like how many things can she really do wrong for you, like, bruh, I'm you know, I glad I live with her. Like, what is she doing? Pissing in the bed, you know what I mean? Like, you never know. You know, like what is she doing so off that you can't, you know what I mean? That she can't fix her.
SPEAKER_00:100% knowing what you're about to marriage till death do us part? Right. That's that's a huge thing, you know what I'm saying? So I yeah, hell yeah. I'm saying 100% what I'm getting.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not saying y'all never stay the night with each other, but I'm saying that yeah. So I'm saying, what did she do it like that? She got a a c a voodoo closet that you would have never seen, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:Like that, it's just the the dynamic of staying together in one space, you know what I'm saying? That shit is just is just different. I I don't like you just gotta do it to understand what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I I I'll be hard-pressed, I could be wrong, I could be naive, so I'm gonna always lean to that. But my ex-girlfriend, if we was to live together, it would be something that she did that surprised me.
SPEAKER_00:There would be nothing that she did.
SPEAKER_02:No, I'm just saying like her living habits. Like, I saw it very much in full.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So if she did something that, like, oh my goodness, I I I didn't see this. I would have never saw this had I not lived with you. No, I'm I'm pretty much I see exactly.
SPEAKER_00:That's not where I'm coming from. I'm not coming, I'm not coming from how they live or the upkeep of that. You can see you can sense that. You can you can see that if you go over enough. Right. Go go over their house uh enough. Um what I'm saying is the dynamic between two people in a closed setting after a while. It's like it's it's it's I don't know, it's the truth. Like it's like what who y'all are together in a closed setting. It's like COVID. Like when COVID happened and um you know, you you're you're you're you're with your partner, you don't really go anywhere, you don't do anything and all that, like you're just you're stuck there. Uh it's just it's just different challenges, like just simply being a human, not like upkeep and oh she digs in her nose at 7 p.m. on Wednesdays. I didn't know that. But um, you know, it ain't like that. So that that's all I was saying. I got you. Yeah. It's it's it's it it can be a great thing though. Like I told you like the other day, I do miss that feeling of you know, it's a long day or whatever, and then you know, you you you you laid up with somebody who just like loves you. That's that is one of the best feelings in the world. Uh so there there are many, many, many, many benefits. But I I do know life changes. Yeah. So I I'm very much so enjoying being single and doing whatever I want to do. Everything changes. Like we have to think about what we it's it's everything, bruh. Everything. So I understood.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um so I'm gonna take you on a journey journey. Uh-huh. All right, you ready? I'm I'm being extra. But um so picture, you're at a grocery store. Yes. You're walking down the aisle, um, you're getting your favorite cereal. Okay. Then you see your ex-girlfriend of six years walk past you. Are you speaking to her?
SPEAKER_06:I'm gonna say hey. Okay. Yeah, I don't hate her.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Hey Steven, how are you? That's exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah. Hey, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm. And are you going to try to keep that conversation in a minimal? Do you think that your heart will stop after seeing her?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, it would definitely throw me off. Like, cause this is a random thing, right? Right. Oh, it's absolutely throw, it would absolutely throw me off. Um yeah, the yeah, her or or the the the the most uh recent ex. Yeah. If I'm just somewhere and they just pop up, yeah, it's gonna be like, whoa, hi, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Um so your heart would stop, like kind of.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if it would stop, but it would just be like it would throw me off for sure. Just seeing that part, because we don't talk, you know. I I don't really talk to any of uh well, not not really, but I don't talk to any of my exes. So that would for sure kind of throw me off. And I think it would just be natural to have some type of conversation. Like I said, if it was straight beef, then you know, I it would be a priority to keep this as a minimum, you know. Like I ain't finna talk to you, bro. Like it, but it's not like that. So yeah, I I could just see just I don't know. Um first being thrown off and then being like, so what's the how because we'll we stuck then like in conversation, we right in front of each other. So it would just be like, yo, so the how is everything? And I could see it going like that, and then eventually we just go our separate ways.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. So you you don't think they'll be more uh curious, like, hey, hey, actually I'm free for dinner. No, you wouldn't you would say you would turn it down? Uh I don't uh I don't see myself going to dinner with any of your exes to follow up.
SPEAKER_00:Um dinner, I I don't know. I I don't know about that. You know, yeah certain people not really. The other ones maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Yeah, I'll say that. Okay, yeah. Okay, so I I I sound sounds like I shouldn't explore that. We'll go keep it there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, some of you know, we'll keep it cute or whatever. And then, you know, um yeah, some people, like this this conversation is only going this far, and then others maybe. I I I don't know. It just depends. Like uh, like if I think about all of my exes, and if I ran into every single one of them, yeah, I say maybe half half of them. Just because I know probably like we would just be just straight cool friend vibe, like we're never gonna get back to anything. Like maybe it just might be a cool thing to grab drinks or something. Uh the other half, I don't see me um exploring that. Yeah. Well, what about you? Is it with all of them? Is it the same treatment? Yeah, I would treat them to dinner. You would treat them to dinner?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I would treat them to dinner.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't think that's trying to spin the block. I don't think that's where I'm going. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that would be just, you know, I'm gentleman-like? Yeah, I guess. Like, hey, you know, hey, if they invite me and like, hey, you know, um, hey, we should get together. I'm free for tonight. I'm like, okay, I'll go. Yeah, yeah. I don't, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have anything hold me up. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:So that's that's not what it sounded like. It's just sounded like um Nah, it was like what what threw me off is you said treat them to dinner. So I was thinking more so like y'all both were like, even even if that is the case at the end of the night, that's that's fine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm gonna pick up the bill for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think that's that's fine. I I was just saying more so I thought you were gonna say, like, um, if both of y'all aren't doing anything, and then you know, both of y'all just go to this place or whatever, but it seemed more so you were saying you would lead the conversation in like I'd like to take you to dinner. Like that that just kind of threw me off a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Um, nah. I I mean, I would like to take you to dinner. Um, I may maybe not feel that way. I mean, but if if the I'm not gonna say no, that I wouldn't say that. So let me bring bring him back. I wouldn't. It depends on how the conversation goes. But I can see myself, hey, if you're free tonight, let's go to dinner, let's chat, let's follow up this conversation, you know, with a deeper one, depending on how it goes. So I'm not opposed to it. But if we're going to dinner, I'm most likely going to pay for it. And that's just gonna be the person I am. And you know, if I'm even out with friends, if it's not really talked about before, the idea is going to be paid for it, unless you kind of invite me out, type of thing. But if it's like an ex-relationship, then I'll probably pick up the bill. So that's where I was really kind of stemming from. Um, but um, the reason why I I went really wanted to ask this question because I was uh driving Uber last night and it was maybe a little bit deeper than just that. Um it was this college college kid, um, girl, and um she was going to I forgot the the club, but it doesn't matter. Um and then she was talking about her, you know, her ex-boyfriend's gonna be there and how you know she had spill spilled a white collar on her pants. She's like, nah, I got, you know, it looks like I got PC pants or whatever. You know, now he's gonna clown me. Yeah, you know, yeah. And then she was like, you know, if I fight him, y'all gonna jump in. No. And then there's like, what you got me, you shouldn't put me one of our friends like, you shouldn't put me in a position to fight no man. Right. You know, but I would help, you know, which is very much true. I was like, that's you know, for a junior in college, uh, that seems very uh mature of you to say. Yeah. But um nonetheless, it had me thinking about I was like, you know, in my head, I was like, it sounds like you still love him. And so regardless.
SPEAKER_00:He's trying to like look nice.
SPEAKER_02:Well, my deeper thought was is like they have an extreme emotional reaction just by his presence being there. Whether you want to fight him, you is hating like a thin line between love. Like, hey, you must love him a little bit for him to I'd be thinking that.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Uh anytime, anytime I get with, not even get with. Anytime, I'm gonna say for the most part. Because sometimes girls be having like real stories of like trump traumatic, yeah, yeah, exactly. Domestic violence, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, that's the it is a very much so a real thing. So not necessarily that, but like outside of a traumatic experience. Um I'm just saying the first thing that I think of is as soon as I hear um uh a girl like talking crazy about her ex. Like, I because I don't do that. I I don't talk like bad, even if I have like my um my my thing, you know, or or or um ups and downs with exes and all that type of stuff. Yeah, you know, we all have things that we like about our exes and we don't like about it because they're our ex. So but anytime I hear a girl like going in, like, man, F this nigga, I'm da da da da da stupid ass motherfucker, da da da da I do be thinking in the back of my head, like, do you still like this man a little bit? And that may not be true. That may not be true at all, but I do think that though, because I I I don't even I don't it's not even like exploring their mind about it. It's more so I'm not like that. You know what I'm saying? And I don't have I'm not holding anything on my exes. And like I can honestly cuss all of them out in my head for certain things that happen in every single one of these relationships, but like I'm not doing that because I don't have I don't feel like you know, in love with them or I I don't feel this this sense of um just kind of how I did in those moments. Um But I do feel like that uh when I hear somebody like like start cussing and like uh name calling, like and I'm just like something about it is just like I I don't know what happened because again, bad things do happen in relationships and it can uh majorly affect uh how people think about certain people. But um that that is something that I like my ears go up. Like that dogs be like when they start listening to shit. Like as soon as you you say that, like my ears do go up a little bit. I'm like, I wonder what this is truly about. And one and two, I don't I think that's a great trait to like to to to to be putting down you know other people. But again, I never know what's going on in these type of situations, too. They they could have I don't even want to like give certain examples, but some real shit be really be happening. Absolutely. Um and yeah feeling like that when have you ever heard like you know, you you're talking to a girl and then she's just like man, this whack ass dude, you probably I I've heard it all, but what what about you? Have you heard uh I mean things like that before?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely. I think that you hear them while they're in a relationship, while they're out of relationship, um, and some of it is just tearing down to kind of big you up in a sense. Yeah. Um, but and you can tie kind of hear the difference between them telling their story versus them actually like, hey, this is a negative trait. You know, and it just depends on how things come out. Uh, but yeah, of course, I've heard that before. And yeah, I get uh, you know, sometimes I understand understand, and then but like the way, and then also there's like the way you're talking about this, you probably ain't that bad of a dude. You know, I yeah, I probably like him. You know what I mean? Yeah, he'll probably be cool, you know. So it just kind of all depends. But yeah, of course. Um, let's kind of get into the BS a little bit and have a little little bit of fun. Uh, I'm just intrigued on what you think and what side of the fence you're gonna be on. So you you start to like this girl. Yeah. Y'all go on a couple dates. All right. All right. She she goes out of town for a couple of days and then she comes back. Uh-huh. And then she's like, hey, I just been, I just went on a sex a sexual wellness retreat. First thought, what is that going to make you like her, like her less?
SPEAKER_00:Uh in terms of getting first of all, I don't even know what a sexual wellness retreat is. And I got you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna explain what it is. So a sexual wellness retreat is helping participants, um, and this woman in particular, women in particular, access their erotic selves. Um it's in this group, attendees are straight by sexual arrangement. I'm just reading it in a range from mid-30s to mid-70s. Um, this is a particular retreat that they're going on. Um, and you know, they come to they've come to overcome intimacy intimacy issues or body shame to process trauma to learn how to better orgasm or otherwise improve their sex lives.
SPEAKER_00:So reading that, the memes are starting to come to my mind of it looks like a yoga class or something, and there's a guy, it's always a guy. Some smooth ass nigga. And I just see in my head, this is what I'm gonna think as soon as she said, and as soon as I read that, because as soon as I went on sexual awareness with immediately start looking it up, and as soon as I read that, in my head, I'm gonna be thinking about this yoga class, and it's always this dude, and he don't be touching them, but his hand be over him like like gyrating and shit. Yeah, looking like they just bursting, you know, gotta come there with a hella sets of panties or some shit.
SPEAKER_02:But um so is that gonna make you like her less?
SPEAKER_00:I would be confused. I would be like, I I think I think I think I would be more confused than knowing if I like her less. It wouldn't be more. Right. There definitely wouldn't be more. But a decision has to be made on on that that that side. I think if I was like really liking a girl and then she because like when I'm reading it, it sounds like there are deeper issues there. Are aren't they always with us? You know? Oh, I mean you do you just said like, you know, you that you have intimacy issues and all all that type of stuff. You're trying to like figure it out or whatever, or maybe she just wanted to explore or something. I I don't I don't fully have it would be a little weird. It'll be a little weird. But I do understand if she's single, right? But it's not giving hoe. It's not giving hope. Asking. That's what I'm saying. Um I I I don't because then you could be like super sexual and now that was just a part of this journey that you're gonna be on, or that you probably already on. I'll be confused. I don't know. Okay. I think I think I'd rather if it was a girl who I I was dating and and was was seeking to um to date, I I would rather Enrique not use his spiritual powers on on this girl that I'm trying to date.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so let's put it put it to somebody that you're interested in. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Like somebody in mind at your picture that is telling you this.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. Okay. Um, yeah. I'd rather, yeah, Miguel not trying to have him like, you know, just hovering. Just hover. Just first of all, I gotta learn that. I might look up some videos tonight. Oh, how the how do they be doing that, bro? But um yeah, bruh, the whole hovering thing. I see now that's gonna mess me up. That's gonna mess me up. If I actually think, if I if I if I think in my head, like these videos that I'm talking about, and I replace the girl with the girl that I'm talking to, and she's just like going in, I'm like, ah, he got her. Yeah, I think um, I don't think it would help. I don't think it'll help, just being completely honest. I I would be I would be very intrigued to know what that was for her, though. I would ask a lot of questions. I'd be like, so what happened? So what'd you feel? Would you that I would be really interested because I um that is interesting, like, you know, for them. But um, yeah, like in my head, like you you just coming to another man and he ain't even touch you. Okay, I got you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, it's giving hold of me a little bit. Like, it's like, why are you going on a sexual wellness retreat? What are you trying to find? You know, like, like I I feel like that's I don't want I don't want to be like, hey, you like you naughty for that? Because there are, I'm sure there's probably some people who's doing good work. Like, I can imagine like a place for it where there's a woman who had, you know, um maybe was touched when they was younger and has a problem, they are attracted by men, but have a problem going that far because of their traumatic experiences. And then, you know, so say if I meet that person is like, hey, I don't want to take it any further than that because you know it just brings it's very triggering. And then, you know, she comes back, you know, say if we fall off, she comes back in three months, and then she's a completely different person. I can tell that, hey, you know, you been to that and she talked about the sexual wellness retreat. Then I could try to somewhat keep an open mind. Yeah, and I was like, this actually, I can see the difference. You know what I mean? So outside of that, it'd be like, bruh, you just just say you want to be, you know what I mean? You just want a nut real quick, you know, yeah, yeah. And you and you trying to uh disguise it as you know some type of therapy. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Because that's what it's really reading. It's like, bruh, you know, y'all got pedals or whatever, and then you know, you really just try to orgasm, you know what I mean? And trying to disguise it as a yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's all I'm getting from it. Yeah, the the the all the the videos and all that stuff I've seen, usually that's it, and they've been doing that for a long time. I still uh that was like way back when. Um with the old time video look, you know I'm talking about, like the the VHS look. I got like memes in my head that kind of look like that. Yeah, people have been doing that. That's that's wild. I wonder, is there one for men? Do men do that?
SPEAKER_02:That sounds like Vegas. You know what I mean? That sounds like the bunny ranch. Who's that? That's uh you HB Have you ever watched ABO like after dark?
SPEAKER_00:ABO?
SPEAKER_02:HBO.
SPEAKER_00:HBO After Dark? Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_02:It's yeah, yeah. It's a HBO After Dark? I mean, back this is back in the day. You know, where you had Taxi Cab Confessions, real taxi cab confessions, yeah, or like real sex. Then you never watch. Well, I mean, I probably shouldn't have been watching it when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, but I do remember taxi cab.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, wow. But pretty much the the the I think it's called the Bunny Ranch. It was where men, it was legal in a part of Nevada into where men can go to a pretty much a brothel to have sex with women. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Damn. Would you do that? Would you um not at all? Would you um um I almost went to one of these one time. What? Not what you talking about. But I was I I was uh dating this girl, and there's this place, um there's a place where you can go, and then like you wear masks. Yeah, and I I knew that's where you just go. Yeah, everybody just do whatever they want at these places, like this club or this night, whatever. And then you could take your person and like you could just do it. Like a swingers club.
SPEAKER_02:I guess that's I mean they used to have one downtown Nashville. Really? I used to be people up from it and then when COVID happened. Uh-huh. I mean, come on now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they wiped that whole thing out in one night. Yeah, yeah. But um, yeah, no, no, no, no. I I I actually thought about going to one of those one time. That shit was crazy. Yeah, and I guess like everybody is just basically smashing at this place, and you can, you know, choose whoever you want to or whatever, or just do it with your person right there. Yeah, I almost went to one.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh were you excited about going?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I was I was. How did you almost go to with your partner?
SPEAKER_00:I'm pretty sure if I stayed with her, I probably would have gone.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So who how did you hear about it? From her. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she never went. But she kind of wanted to go like with her partner.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. I got you. Right.
SPEAKER_00:So when we were dating, that was like uh an idea in the air. Like, like, would you do something like this? And I was like, you know, a couple shots. Um, you know, might say, fuck it. You know, just for the memory.
SPEAKER_02:So what was the idea? Did y'all have a game plan if y'all was to do it? Uh it wasn't a game.
SPEAKER_00:We wasn't gonna like do not with nobody else around.
SPEAKER_02:So you just kind of people watch? Or just have sex in front of people?
SPEAKER_00:It's probably um probably that. Probably that, or I I don't know. She was she was a little wild. She probably would have let I I yeah, I don't want to say too too much, but she she wouldn't have done anything, but she probably would be open to um me having fun.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, having sex with another girl.
SPEAKER_00:This is possibly lit. It's lit! That that was uh yeah, that was a different that that was that was the first time I I dated somebody like that. Okay, I got you. Yeah, but it was just like in my head, it was just like for the memory. Yeah, I got you. Because I would never find myself in a place like that. Right. And um, yeah, I was just like, you know, just like get it out the way and just wake up the next day, and then I'll I have this story in my head of like this crazy ass night. Yeah, that's that's the main reason why I wanted to do it. Just like a bucket list. I didn't even know it was a bucketless thing.
SPEAKER_02:But if she was to make out what a fine girl, would that bother you?
SPEAKER_00:I don't I don't think so. No, that that wouldn't bother me. The only thing that would bother me is like if if um the girl put her finger in her vagina? I don't I don't think I don't even know if that would bother me. I don't I don't know. I don't know. My only thing with all that stuff is like if my girl is bi, I don't think I can be with a bi girl. Yeah. Cause then like I don't like I don't like my girl liking anybody else. Yeah. So like if you just having fun or like we have fun together and all that type of shit. I mean, if if the the cards played like that a certain night or whatever, fine. But I I don't I don't ever want to think like my girl likes somebody else. That's gonna mess with me because I'm I'm very when I when I date or when I'm actually in a relationship, it's very um I don't just I don't just make anybody my girlfriend. So like I really, really, really gotta like you. So I don't like I don't like you know spreading so that around.
SPEAKER_02:So how do you feel when the girl's like, you know, my man crush is crush brown or they name whatever. So does that bother you when you're in a relationship? Uh I don't really like it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I really don't like it. And it's it's not it ain't like um at first before I went to LA and started coming up for real, like as Ray So Silly, that stuff didn't bother me because everybody got a crush. Everybody got a crush. I think plenty, the women fine, whatever. You know, we both think the other people are attracted fine. And before I started coming up with race so. Silly, you know, you're so far removed from these people that you really just talking, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I ever had a chance with Drake or Chris Brown or whatever, like like you'll never, you know. So it ain't it don't ever bother you for real. But when I start coming up as Ray SO Silly, and then I start going to LA, and then you start going to these events, then you start getting invited to like these other things. You start rubbing shoulders with these people, and the far-removed thing kind of like turn into like reality. Like, you know, the the the the the farther that I come up like in this whole game or whatever, the um more of a chance I would like rub shoulders with these people. So I don't want to be at a party and like knowing like you really like this nigga. You know, it's it's real now. You know what I'm saying? So I get it. I get um people have crushes and all that type of stuff, but I do think differently about it nowadays. Um like I don't know like to me, anything's possible. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. After after um I started dating a few people, and like the the the the the the people that you well I once started, like I probably it would probably be hard to have a conversation with some of these people, and then eventually that started to be a reality. Then it's just like this ain't too far removed anymore. So I do I I you know I get how people think, but to me, this is also very much can be a reality at some point too. Understand. Yeah. Do you do you feel like that?
SPEAKER_02:Um no, I'm not in like that circle, so it's a little bit different. Um I'm cool with her having her little crushes because I I got mine too. So how you know, so I'm gonna be very much equal in that way. Um but I also feel like, yeah, if I was in that circle and like for my ex-girlfriend, hers was like Jason Tatum, the game and stuff like that. Um I still would hope that you put it keep your composure if you was to ever see him. I'm like, hey, that was actually your crush, you know, yeah, we can laugh about it. But if you're like like, you know, like damn near about to have a seizure, looking at him like, all right, bro. Like you're doing too much, like keep it together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That can just be your crush and it'd be that on that, because you know, those girls I find fine too. Right. Yeah, so I'm not gonna be mad at it.
SPEAKER_00:Right, no, everybody got their the their selection.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. But if if you're doing too much, like there's for uh what I would have a problem with is like there's a guy on Instagram. I've got I not that I would ever remember his name, but um, he's uh tall, dark skinned, he's a good looking guy, and he has dressed and I'm sure you see it, and he kind of like he'll walk around and girls will be kind of like, oh my god, you look great. Uh Dude Name King. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So I think I think that's it. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:All these videos like outside a club and then a girl or like. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then you know, I like one video, he he was at uh he was at like Walmart or something. Then he grabbed this uh white girl's hand and her man was next to him, and then she was like, you know, she's like, oh my god, you know, and then and then he looked the white dude looks and just walks away. And then he's like, and then the dude was like, Who's he? Nobody. She said nobody?
SPEAKER_06:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, yeah, and so that, of course, obviously, you know, we just broke up. Yeah, exactly. Uh yeah, we're I'm done. Yeah, you know what I mean. So that I'm not going back to is like, all right, you you completely hold me out. Yeah, you know what I mean? So yeah. So outside of that, it could be like, you know, hey, well, he's here, you know. As long as you keep him together in that type of area, I'm okay with it. But yeah. But at the cause I am your man and I love you. So don't I think that you should be rational enough to know that you don't have a long long term if you're willing to risk one night out with the game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, then we definitely wasn't meant for each other. Right. Right.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, that whole um would you do that? Uh uh um if both of y'all had a crush or whatever, and then y'all both like had a hall pass to to be with y'all's crush for a night, like would you take that?
SPEAKER_02:So, so you're saying that if she can be with the game and I'm with Kaylani? Uh-huh. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think I can do it. Yeah. No, it's different if like like there's a twin bed and he's having sex with her right next to me. Yeah. That's different. But hey, I'll take the chance. If I fell because of it, well, I I'll learn my lesson.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean? Yeah. So hey, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Yeah. No, I can't, I can't, I can't. Even if I just like went ham on whoever, coming back and knowing my girl just got dicked down, it's gonna hurt me a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Who knows? We don't have to talk about each other's experiences.
SPEAKER_00:If it's if it's one of the top niggas, she got dicked down. Is it? I I mean, I don't know. I would just assume. I I can only assume. Especially if it's a dude who always gets girls and shit. And I gotta look at my girl after, I'm like, man, I can't even play this nigga music in the car no more.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah, I can feel that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do, yeah. I um this shit is kind of annoying a little bit. I ain't gonna lie. I was dating a girl. I was dating a girl, you remember um um uh well, I can't say that because then that'll time stamp it. But I was dating a girl, and um Drake had a concert that was streamed, and it we were both watching it, and I was just chilling with her, just like arm over her, and then we just like holding hands on some relationship type shit. Soon as Drake came out, we're not even there. Soon as Drake came out, she squeezed my hand so hard you would have thought she was having a baby. She squeezed and Drake! I'm like, I hate this nigga. Nah, but I really I love Drake. I love Drake. But yeah, like bro, like Nick, come nigga. Why you and you squeezing my you letting me know exactly what your body is doing, right? Why you letting me know that far? Yeah, yeah. It's some it's time, it just be too much.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand where that comes from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I might be squeezing hair just as hard. I'm just joking. So yeah, I gotta grow up and be Drake. That's the life lesson. But it's that should be motivating for real. Oh god, bruh. I gotta level up.
SPEAKER_00:You know, bruh, I swear to God, bruh. That that that it wasn't that specific moment, but like moments like that, like I need I need to be with somebody who looks at me like that, you know. So I gotta, I gotta like get up there. So I'll never even think about stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Drake, I'm kind of understandable on like, but if it's like King Batch or some shit, like I'll be like, bruh, come on now. Like, yeah, like why you doing all that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he probably probably do got him out there.
SPEAKER_02:No, I'm sure he does, but I'm like, bruh, like, where is our baseline? Like, he's cool, he's hilarious, yeah, he got quite a following. I can see why girls like him, love him, but if you're doing all that for him, they're like, bro, we won't. But Drake is way more understandable.
SPEAKER_00:No, I get it. I I definitely get it. Like, even the Chris Brown thing and all that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I can't be mad at that. I mean, he's very talented. He's been in the industry for a long time. He's a good looking guy with a bunch of money.
SPEAKER_00:I be singing with this nigga. I've just like I said, you walked in, I'm playing Chris Brown. But um, I get it. I'm just like, I just gotta be at least one of them niggas up there. At least, at least somebody in the bunch. So yeah, that I I ain't gonna lie. That shit that was definitely motivating to be around women who uh fan the fuck out when they see their their their their person, you know. That uh that that definitely motivated me to like kind of you know at least shoot for the stars or something, you know. So maybe I'll have some some people out! That's that's like a goal of mine. Yeah, you know, just seeing chilling with that girl, she grabbed me like that. Like, come on now, you you're my girl. You just walked out. No, I love Drake too, so I sat there. I had yeah, I was I was singing the songs, but it was just like a little bit of cringe.
SPEAKER_01:Nothing was the same. That's hilarious. Yeah, yeah. No, but I think we did it. It's an hour and ten.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, no, yeah. We're good.
SPEAKER_02:All right, bro. Well, this is two for the culture. We love y'all. We'll be back. We'll be back.