Two for the Culture

Valentine’s Day, Break Ups, and Love Languages

• Season 1 • Episode 44

Share episode

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 1:00:50

Send a text

We get honest about skipping Valentine’s Day pressure, why thoughtful beats pricey, and what men actually want from gifts and acknowledgment. Then we wrestle with posting partners, privacy, trust, tone, and whether chemistry can be rebuilt or should be released.

• choosing thoughtfulness over expensive gifts
• how mismatched gifts reveal they're not listening
• posting a partner vs keeping love private
• marriage as brand shift and boundary reset
• chemistry vs effort and knowing when it’s off
• delivery, tone, and saying hard truths with care
• healing after breakups and rebounds
• choosing peace over petty with exes
• trust, cheating, and sharing locations with intention


Skipping Valentine’s Day

SPEAKER_01

And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante.

SPEAKER_00

I'm Stephen Ray.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, sir. And we are back. Absolutely. Everything good?

SPEAKER_00

Everything is great. Valentine's Day coming up. It is. A lot of balloons. I got you. A lot of uh love in the air, no pun.

SPEAKER_01

But um Yeah, so I guess we just send this one out this year, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Sitting this one out, which is always sort of a win too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you talking about a little money saved?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's like, you know, you gotta do like, I don't know. I'd be wanting to do stuff if I'm in a in something with somebody.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that's respectable. Hey, you feel obligated to do something for your partner? You want to see them happy? Yeah, yeah. And you want to make sure it's a good day for every facts.

SPEAKER_00

Have you ever have you ever been um wooed or whatever on uh Valentine's Day? No. Wooed? Yeah, as in like this. You were surprised. You were you were like, No. Yeah, facts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't is that a thing? I I've I don't think I've ever heard a guy.

SPEAKER_00

I think I could have. I think I could have at one point, but we ain't make it that far.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, like what you mean? Um you could have been impressed by her. I probably could have been impressed. Y'all didn't make it to Valentine's. We didn't make it to Valentine's. Oh, okay. I got you.

SPEAKER_00

So other than that one time for real. You said you're him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, it was um, yeah, that that was that was uh when I just think about all the other uh uh situations that I've been in, I don't really see do you have any ideas of how a woman can with a man on Valentine's Day? Shit, well for me it'd be anything. Yeah, it could be like you can come to uh if I say something like I don't know, if I say something like, man, I really just want to um write movies or some shit. And if a girl gives me a notebook and a pen, and I'm just like, wow, you thought of me. Okay, so you just say any gift. Yeah, like as you know, that makes me feel like you be listening to me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. That I'm that's just like the the I I don't want to say bare minimum because I'm I'm not looking for anything.

SPEAKER_01

But um What if she gave you Cartier glasses?

SPEAKER_00

I'm wearing them hoes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But that as long as it's the ones I like.

What Gifts Mean To Men

SPEAKER_01

If it if you didn't like it, you're not wearing it.

SPEAKER_00

I've I've gotten gifts before that I didn't put on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. On Valentine's Day.

SPEAKER_00

It wasn't Valentine's, I think it was Christmas.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, was it from your girl?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and you never wore it.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty sure I haven't.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. That's impressive. And she never mentioned that you didn't. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I mean, it was it like there was a time that I got like a bunch of uh clothing from somebody, and I just remember thinking, like, I don't I I don't be wearing stuff like this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, for sure. Of course. Like, yeah. That's a little bit different than your girl who you live or whatever situation you're in, um they see you. Then then you're I wasn't with her. Your auntie in Christmas just gives you a sweatshirt. You're like, bro, I ain't never wearing this. But thank you. Oh yeah. But I'm just saying that's different than you living with somebody and they're or you're seeing them frequently and they give you a shirt. They're expecting you to wear that around them. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. And I was just I thought you were saying something about like the auntie at the same time.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, yeah, yeah. Oh no, she definitely, yeah. She she probably mentioned it like once or twice or whatever. But like, I don't even, I never wear anything. You could have just worn it one time. I could have worn it one time. Yeah, like we going out, like oh they canceled.

SPEAKER_01

No, we're going to a grocery store. Yeah, facts. I could have done that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, damn. Actually, think about it it was a couple. It was a couple things. It just wasn't, yeah, I don't know. Or maybe I didn't feel too confident in it. I I don't know. I can't remember. But yeah, sometimes I I I do think people get things for people that they want them to have versus like it's something they want. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So this happened. I I got you. Um so you're saying Valentine's Day is easy for me because I'm willing to just accept anything thoughtful, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, it'll be nice to be appreciated. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, always in any in any form. I do wish there was a little bit more of that. But um, I the the first thing I think about isn't like I never think about what what am I getting or Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

That's all, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's not even a part of the conversation um for Valentine's Day coming up for real. So in my head.

SPEAKER_01

So you're like, hey, I don't because I'm the guy, I don't expect anything on Valentine's Day.

SPEAKER_00

I I don't, I don't, but I mean, I'm not I'm not in if I was in a long-term relationship, I think eventually I would kind of feel like I wonder if she's gonna do anything. You know, it like years pass and I done did something every single Valentine's Day, and I'm gonna keep wanting to do that, but I do think a thought will come in my mind. It's like, you know, she ain't never do nothing. Yeah, that would that would probably I don't know if it would fuck with me or what, but it it would um it'd be nice to be acknowledged.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. Uh that just kind of reminds me, um it's there it's somewhat of a like a little game. Like, what would you you get this or you can get this? For example, you can get the girl who listens and caters to your needs and can cook, but she doesn't go out her way to get you things. So for example, like my birthday, I don't get a post song or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she does all these other things great.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Which one would you prefer? Like, you get you get this normal girl in a relationship that just average, you know, what like toxic up and down, but you get this perfect girl, she just does like not give you anything ever. Like, so it's like you she may tell you you appreciate it, but there's no action shown. There's no it sounds like it is.

SPEAKER_00

It sounds like it is. If she's doing all this other stuff, it what I just heard was it's a girl that shows you on these specific days that she messes with you versus the girl who shows you all the time that like she's cooking for you, you are you hungry, are you this, you that, or whatever? I I would love to give her shit on those little days.

SPEAKER_01

And and and it's and then let me add on. Okay, so she's not a social media person, she's not gonna, she may be on Instagram, but she doesn't post in general. Yeah. Does that if she and here's another side question Does that bother you? Like, say if she was to even post a lot, uh-huh and she didn't post it. But she never posted you.

Thoughtfulness vs Receiving Stuff

SPEAKER_00

It don't bother me too much. It don't bother me too much. I had a conversation with somebody um and they told me that something I never really thought think about. But girls do be thinking, like, I ain't finna post my man because I don't want no other girl, I don't know, like in his DMs or trying to get him and all that type of shit. I I never thought about that because I'm like a faithful guy. So just like if even if somebody was, then like what is that gonna do for real? But that is a thing for some people. So that could that could be the thing. And again, like I still I'm still on the fence about that, about that whole thing, about the whole posting thing. I I do love that type of stuff. You know, like like the AI shit that I be doing, and I be like hopping in there with Kaylani and Sciza and all this. There's only certain levels I can go with that. If I had a girl, bro, I'm maxing that whole out on 10. Like we sh I had that girl in. I don't know. I'm just saying there's a certain level that I'll go, but if I had if I had my own girl, I wouldn't mind if she didn't even know she woke up one day and like she's a part of this AI scroll. Oh, and it's like crazy. So so you'll be you'll be public facing in your next relationship. No, so what I'm saying is is that inside I don't give a fuck like that for real. Like I like, I would like to some sometimes I I would just I guess like I like the thought or the idea of doing something that's like cool or cute or funny or whatever with my girl, like every now and then or some shit. But also in my mind, after my last public relationship, that shit lingers. And it's like if it if it were to end, and honestly, 99% of the relationships everybody's in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, them hoes in. Right. So you will be so say if you you're dating another social media influencer, she has a stronger following than you do, and very popular, what wide known. Yeah, and her brand, she's beautiful and you know, shows enough risque to where she has a good following, but she's like, hey, I'm never going to post you. It's going to be as if I'm single. And I expect you to do the same for me. Like, don't post me. You know, and we could be it married for 10 years. I we ain't gonna give them that.

SPEAKER_00

Married for 10 years is crazy. Okay, okay. That's that's a little girl. They see us outside, you know. But um, it's like when I think about the grand scheme of things, I don't want a girl who's too sensitive on that either, because I be having fun on the gram. So like I kind of need to be with somebody who knows I'ma keep like hopping in these films with women and she don't care nothing about that.

SPEAKER_01

She's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

That's a nice bounce, like you saying a little risque, a little this, whatever. And she needs to look like she's single. I definitely do.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. So you're saying I'm cool with it as long as she's cool with it.

SPEAKER_00

I would um I feel like I feel like that that still is on brand for me. Like both of them are kind of on brand. Like if I if I just appear single, like, you know, throughout that whole process or whatever. Um, but if we marry, we married, it's over with.

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, nah, we married. Okay, she's a part of your brand.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, at that point. Marriage? Yeah. So if she's like that person that has these things gone and all that, and then now we're married, like, even if people don't even know that we're married, they're gonna know that we go together. You know what I'm saying? Or like uh how Nipsey and uh Lauren, Lauren London was like, we don't know if they was married or not, but like if they wasn't, they damn it, they was. You know. I can see it like going something like that, but nah, I I I don't um yeah, it's so it's really those two things that that I'm I'm I'm actually leaning more toward not doing that, not showing my partner online, okay, or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, and I know now that we're kind of flushing things out and talking through it, um, I know how to kind of properly word my question here. And it would you be cool with your wife? She's great, but she's not a gift giver.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like that's not like her love language.

SPEAKER_00

Uh that's kind of what I'm used to. Okay. So it wouldn't even be like hey, it's just a happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01

But it's it's fair game with her too. Like, I'm I don't love gifts. That's not a good idea. I know people like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Um I would much rather if that was a part of the relationship, even though you know that is nice to have, I would still much rather have the person that day to day, I feel I feel like it's an even exchange of um showing each other we care about each other and you know the we both are seen in the relationship and all that. But I yeah, I would take that any day. Yeah, over the the opposite. It wouldn't even matter for real. Like we talking about a couple days out the year, but you tell me the whole year, like this girl would be cooking this and that, and yeah, all that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. And I don't I picture that's tough to deal with though. Like somebody who is not only are they not a gift giver, which is fine, uh, but also like opposed to receiving gifts. Like you hear people, I don't like compliments. Um have you ever heard of that before? That's what I'm saying. Like it makes it awkward, I don't know how to handle it. I I I get I get that side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I hear things like that. It's like, I don't know how I would thrive in a relationship with you because I like giving compliments.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right, right, right, right, right. Oh yeah, but she's like, no, don't do this. Like that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I want you to feel good. And so when one of you one of the reason why I feel like it will be a little tough for you as well, is because you're very creative in your gift giving as well. Yeah. So for her to like, you know, I don't care for this.

Public Relationships And Posting

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I saw that with my own two eyes growing up. So it's not the greatest feeling in the world. Yeah, yeah. My dad definitely is is on that lover boy shit, but he just got with this this this woman from Memphis. Like, she um it's a countless amount of times, and eventually it just stopped. But like it was countless amount of times of him trying to do something nice. The the flower, the flower petals is leading up to the center island in the house, and this is a house. Like that it was a little while for it to get there, and then the center island is this thing with the cars, and then that's some shit I do. My mama looked at that and why he do all this, and I'm like, damn. You know, just as a uh as a man that likes that type of stuff, I could see um you know people being affected by that. So I probably would, I probably would, because I do like I do like that stuff, which is another reason why I I I you know the single thing is cool, but like I do have that side of me that's like, damn, I I like I want to give this part of me to somebody. Yeah, right. And I would kind of be, yeah, at least my side. Like if you're if you're if she's perfect on all other parts, and if I have to suppress that side of me, yeah, I I don't know how I would feel after a while, actually. Cause that's that'll be one of my main points of being with somebody, is to show them like love and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

Is that now that we're flushing out, is that also a reason why girl or women that are in a relationship that may be a healthy relationship, but it doesn't have that excitement, that that one part that they're missing can be the reason why they leave for something else. Can you see that?

SPEAKER_00

There's too many reasons. There's too many reasons somebody leaves, somebody somebody can sneeze wrong.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's funny. But uh, because uh the reason why I'm saying that, because we see like, hey, these are good people out here, but like he's boring.

SPEAKER_00

Facts.

SPEAKER_01

Like, okay, but what what is most important in the relationship? And that's what I was talking about, like weighing the cons. Like, all right, he's boring, but he provides safety, security, loyalty.

SPEAKER_00

I just saw the ultimatum. Uh I I be editing a lot, as you know.

SPEAKER_01

But um, I had no idea.

SPEAKER_00

Right, yeah, but I'm always like in the computer with my headphones on, so and I like things being played, so I'll just play like like the ultimatum and shit shit that I don't need to watch for it. Like, I can't play a good movie, like just something that's in the background, just playing. The ultimatum was on there, and then they they they had a trial marriage with somebody else or whatever. And uh the girl was just like, I don't know, something's wrong. And then the dude, he was like, I mean, what is it? You know, I I I do this for you, I do that for you, I this, this, and that. So it kind of goes like with what you're saying. I just feel like it's it's an energy thing. It's like a um, you know, that shit it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't, kind of thing. I don't know. Like you can you can work on yourself and the other person can work on themselves a lot, but like it's an energy thing too, though. But yeah, we okay, so he can give you the house, the car, this, that she's still gonna cheat on this nigga because she probably don't respect him because he ain't exactly where did the energy thing not come into play?

SPEAKER_01

Why why are you just figuring that out? Why didn't you figure that out on the fifth, sixth, seventh date?

SPEAKER_00

I you know, I've been in something like that before. Okay, and like the the the the the when I saw that I thought about that too. Cause I saw that and then he was like, I'm doing this, this, that, da-da-da-da-da. Like, what else do you need? She's like, I don't know, it's just not, it's not um, it's just something that's just not there. And she can't like really uh explain it. Not necessarily I was in the same situation like that, but being in a situation where you realize like even if everything was right, it's like something is still off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I would have handed as a dictionary to figure out the words to properly communicate because I can't do with the in something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I'm saying now I kind of know what that is. It's like it's not, it just doesn't work. It doesn't, it just doesn't matter. Like it's it's like the the the the the guy can be so attracted to the woman, the woman can be so attracted uh to the guy, the guy can do everything, she can do everything. But like when you're chilling with this person, sometimes it feels like y'all are just simply friends and not lovers, or like the the connection isn't as deep in terms of like of everything we've done for each other, but you know, when you're chilling with that person, it feels like a little distance is there as well. You can't fix that. I don't think you can fix that. I I feel like it's just simply no matter who does what, whatever looks like what or the who provide blah blah blah, all the love could be there, but like y'all just simply don't work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, and the thing is I also need like communication as well. It's like, hey, hey, maybe we're just not meant meant for each other.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

But if we can't if we if we both gave each other chances all the way up into this point, we had to be in with each other immediately. Definitely this day in culture to where we ghost each other off of you said one thing wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

That you ne you may never get a text back. There's no making up for it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So for the constantly giving a chance, there is like there. So how come we can't recapture that energy? You know what I mean? If it was either and that's what I'm saying, like if it's even it had to be there at some point. Uh or is this like something that matures inside you? Like, you know what? It it finally awakened itself.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Now I know we ain't a match. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

I think, I think it comes with just growing older, just because again, I mean I'm only 33. But the that that clip that I saw, I was like, damn, if I didn't go through like another relationship that made me like think of this, I remember being in something and wondering what the fuck is wrong. Like, what is the thing?

SPEAKER_01

And did you ever discover the actual words to describe what the issue was? Later, we just not meant for each other. Okay, like is there more of a breakdown?

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm saying. Some some things can just be simple. Like, yeah, there can be mistakes made, and there can be these things or whatever, but like if I'm on year number whatever, and the girl's like, damn, I'm still looking for you to be this. No, I don't even want to say that. Let's say they're both doing everything perfectly. And both just feel there's like some sort of small distance between each other. It's it's uh it could it the simple answer literally might be just the answer. It's just we actually don't belong together. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like I'm attracted to you, I'm this, I'm that, and and do you you agreed with her or who whoever delivered the news?

SPEAKER_00

They didn't.

Boundaries, Brand, And Marriage Lines

SPEAKER_01

I'm talking about in your situation. Uh like did you deliver the news? Hey, this ain't really working. No, no. Did she do it? Or we both grew apart.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we had to grow apart.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So like seeing seeing how things like that happen and it happened a couple times, really. It was like different timelines or or or stretches of time, but that shit just true. It's just I I don't know. I don't know. I've been um yeah, it's just like a couple different situations where things could be so great on this side, things can be so great on that side, but it's just like at the end of the day, it just doesn't work. And that's just the simple answer. It don't matter how hard you try or whatever. If I'm ever with a woman, I'm like, look, I do this, this, I wouldn't even get to that point anymore. Just because of the the previous relationships that I've been in, I'm like, damn, I don't think we work.

SPEAKER_01

So here's where I just want your I just want to throw kind of like a wrench into what you're saying. Right. Because I I feel that. But say if it was just y'all two on this planet.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

You gonna make that shit work. That's just like straight up. Um I don't know, I don't need that extra energy in a relationship, like, because you gotta make it work. There ain't no other option. Yeah, you know what I mean? But but there's a love, but but I if she's still complaining, like, hey, it's just this ain't gonna work out, like, I must be a shit for real. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, so I'm saying, like, hey, there's a possibility. Hey, how do you make this thing work?

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Because there is a way, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

It's acceptance, commitments.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and and I'm talking about in a a marriage. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? I'm not fly by a relationship to where hey, you know, we we was texting each other, we was really into each other, we met a couple times, and it was this thing that went by.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

A marriage, a commitment, an oath you did to God. So that's the that's similar to the energy of hey, we really in this together. We're one.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

You are my red.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's hard for me. It's you know, I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

If she's willing, if she's willing to still get a divorce, if we're the only people on this planet, who's gonna do the divorce? Sign the papers. Who the papers gonna say? Yeah, yeah. But if that's what you want, you know what I mean, then hey, yeah, uh we deserve to be the divorce. Because you're leaving me with no you wanna be by yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You think um Adam and Eve actually fucked with each other?

SPEAKER_01

They they had to. He loved her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he yeah, yeah, he let her ruin everything.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, ruin everything.

SPEAKER_00

Lack of better term.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But um, no, I I I see that that is something that I think about too, you know, the whole marriage thing. Like, yeah, I do believe also what you're saying though. You know, you can meet somebody at one point in your life and then you know, I don't know, like people change. Yeah, yeah. I'm not I I'm the same person I was 10 years ago, but like I'm also not. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So Cause I understand, and I don't want to take people to take this as if I don't understand when like we grow together and um we just kind of grow apart. Um, because I understand that element, but I feel like most of the case is something like hey, we did love each other at some point. How can we recapture that with each other? Like, hey, do I need to be around more? Do I need to lighten up? Do I need to lose a little bit of weight? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Because my personality, there was that would be hard to tell I think that would be hard to tell your partner versus them telling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I feel like I could take that.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, that yeah. But I mean, this is something communication is key. Would you would you rather you not say it and just be mad? Mad? No. But I'm just with somebody sloppy as hell. I'm saying, like, even the woman will want to hear it, regardless. She wouldn't want to just see you mad and not know why. Even though you may feel like an asshole. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I I I just feel like that that specifically is a different thing, just because um some people can take it. My mama be uh like that though, too. But she's like a real person. I I've I've seen her put on makeup, and then my dad was trying to be nice to some shit. She was like, You like this? And then he was like, Yeah, it's good. And then she was like, nigga, if you don't like it, just tell. Uh, but yeah, I think I think a woman's um visual um aesthetic is something that a lot of um I'm trying to find the best way to say this, but that means a lot to it means a lot to a woman, just because of how society is. Men are visual people, we look for certain things and they look for other things.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I thought he was gonna be on your feminist shit, you know, yeah, it's a patriarchy.

SPEAKER_00

No, I feel like that's the same. That's the I feel like that's the same pain. If I tell if I tell my girl, like, hey, look, you need to lose some. First of all, that's hard to that's hard for me to even envision.

SPEAKER_01

Just look at it, just look at it with the disgusting place. Like, you need to lose some weight.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, baby, I think you um a little big, eh?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, you make my dicks off.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy. But I also feel like I feel like it's the I feel like it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Like if a man says, yeah, if a man said you you need to lose some weight, and a woman said, You need to get your money up, or some shit like that, it's like ah Yeah, there's so just having this thought earlier today.

Compatibility vs Effort

SPEAKER_01

It's just you can say what you want, it's just how you say it sometimes.

SPEAKER_00

Um God. Bruh, that is like my biggest thing. I I just I pray that in my next relationship. I mean, it's gonna have to be, because yeah, I ain't doing certain things again. But that is one of my main um my main things is just like saying shit with love. As long as that shit is with love, then I'm usually good on like really everything. If that shit hurt, it hurt. It is what it is, and you know, we all everybody has to elevate in every point of their life, no matter how young or old you are. But um, yeah, as long as you say that shit with love, like I could take that. You know what I'm saying? Especially from somebody that you care about or whatever, you they probably didn't really want to say that shit for real. So that is that is something. I I feel like there's a major difference between tough love and disrespect. Like there's a there's a blurred line there between tough love and disrespect that a lot of people don't realize. And then there's a whole other side that's just like just straight up, like, hey, look, you know, it's just out of love, right? Like you could feel that shit when somebody says something. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, for sure. Like picture a girl's uh your woman's crying out in agony for you to change. Yeah, facts versus them screaming at you and mad at you, changing. Those energies are different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna hurt more to see that she's crying. Oh god. Versus she's screaming and at you. Out of anger. Uh-huh. It's just two different one's gonna make one the anger can possi it's gonna make you mad too. Now you feel defensive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. If she's crying, you can't you're defending her, you know what I mean? You want to come for her. Uh you see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

No, I I do want to say something, but you gotta blow your nose or some shit. Or you can just step out real quick. Hey, I can I can I could uh go off of that. But um, yeah, the whole the whole screaming thing, the whole screaming thing is kind of like um even even first of all, uh all all relationships ain't perfect. So hell, I've been into to shit before and shit just just was unraveling so much that I may have said something that I shouldn't have said, but I feel like there is still power in uh uh just saying things out of love. So like if she did get to the point of screaming, and she did that, it's it maybe eventually she thought that that might have been a mistake. She might come back, it depending on how she fucked with you. She might come back after the scream and be like, hey, like I shouldn't have done that, but I just really needed to tell you this thing. I would still take that out of love, you know, versus somebody who just like really like on your ass and then just don't say shit about it.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, I can't. Yeah, but I'm just saying you could, but you can also that can you can receive that energy and get just as mad and be defensive over that thing. I like typically when somebody's crying out a plea, you ain't gonna yell back.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

In defense of yourself.

SPEAKER_00

No, facts, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You're gonna probably come in like I know even if you're defending yourself, I I know how this could you know looks, uh, you know, but yada yada. Defend yourself. But I'm just saying, those back to my original point, it's just how you say things. Yeah, and and delivery. Yeah, some people you can do it out of love, but it's still you know what I mean, you still can be defensive in it. Yeah, yeah. But if there's like ways that I don't want the words coming to me as sugarcoat, but like there's same some things that I may say to deliver it, and it feels a lot better.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, or yeah, yeah, I think I think um uh uh uh uh some people might uh take what I say or take take what I just said as sugarcoating too. That's not really where I'm coming from. But um not saying that you said that, but people do think that though, sometimes when people like, yo, don't just say this shit out of love, like no, I ain't gonna sugarcoat shit. I ain't I ain't saying sugarcoat it. I'm just saying it's just a difference, like to the tone, the the the the intention of what you're trying to do. Are you trying to improve this person? Or I mean not improve them, but you know, like uh uh show them that they can improve in certain areas, blah blah blah. Or are you just trying to like vent and right, yeah, that should be coming out different. So I don't need nothing sugar coated.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just depends on what whatever it you may need it, you know what I mean? Yeah, obviously, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Picture I ain't gonna trip if it if it is sugar coated, yeah, yeah. You know, I put sugar in my coffee all the time. But you know, real is real though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. True. But picture somebody, your girl delivering, hey, you got a small dick, but I love you anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One, if like if if she just straight up versus saying, Hey, hey, Ray, I love you. You are the best thing in our world. You know what I mean? It builds it up to where she says it, the two of the energies may hit a little different.

SPEAKER_00

What the fuck? Oh, I don't even know if I can still take that shit. I love you, but like, here, just bigger dick. 24 hours. What? Just take it. I just really need to be satisfied. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

No, she's just saying it just to be truthful. I'm talking about like oh my god, yeah, yeah. Because you're talking about one is hey, I can just give me the truth.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like hell no, not like message. What Dre say, lie to me. What do you say? Um, tell me lies, make it sound good, make it sound good. Hell no, no. I'm glad. Oh my god, my life would have been fucked off. Yeah, there are niggas out here walking around with like two inch dicks, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that damn like micropenis is a true thing. Oh my god, and that is very terrifying.

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't yell at nobody. Yeah, I wouldn't yell at nobody. Oh god, guy, you broke you gotta be top one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta be a billionaire, bruh. For real.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, facts. There's no other choice.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yep. As soon as he gets, yeah. As soon as he gets to a certain amount of money, he probably don't even gotta eat pussy. Come on. Yeah. It's like finally, fuck. A million dollars.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, but I'm sure you enjoy it at some point.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I mean, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

You don't enjoy it now?

SPEAKER_00

I do, but I know what's coming after that shit. At least I know what's coming after. I got you, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Picture me doing that shit and be like, man, she's gonna be disappointed. This whole night about to be, huh, I'm getting kind of tired. You tired? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You try, you realize this nigga been down there for an hour.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Picture what's crazy is that you pull it out and she's like, no.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

He's hot and ready and shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, mmm. Oh my god.

Tone, Tough Love, And Delivery

SPEAKER_01

Like, you remember that meme where that they had that like that guy, they'll put his hand on his chest, yeah, and just that red spot on the chest. That's how the fuck? That would hurt.

SPEAKER_00

Bruh, I would change the race of women I talked to. I would move to wherever I'll be at least okay at.

SPEAKER_01

You never seen that documentary? Uh the the guy with the little penis? No.

SPEAKER_00

Was it a short movie?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No, uh, so what happened was um he had proposed to add like a UCLA basketball game in front of the whole crowd. Oh my god. And she said no. Oh the reason why she said no, I'm still good. Okay. The reason why she said no was because he had a small dick. She posted that online or something? No, he asked.

SPEAKER_00

He asked why there?

SPEAKER_01

No, he asked later on.

SPEAKER_00

So why is there a whole documentary on that? Because he made one about his experience. See, he's trying to get his money up. He's trying to go to billionaire status.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if I would have gone with that play though.

SPEAKER_01

What? But the documentary. So she's like, so he went up to all his exes and you know, interviewed them or whatever. Um because I mean, one, that's a traumatic experience. And then you're all you're on Sports Center, you're on everywhere. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And picture they say no. That's terrible. That's very tragic. That's all-time embarrassing. I don't know if I could come back from that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh I yeah. Yeah. Engage with somebody else. I don't even know if I could do that.

SPEAKER_01

I don't I could, you know, I could never probably say ask somebody in hands in marriage ever again, you know? Yeah, yeah. Uh, but no, yeah. So she they were saying comments like, You said we had sex, I didn't feel anything. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he, you know. How is that a thing? You said what?

SPEAKER_00

I'm just I just wonder how is that a thing in general?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, how do you not feel it at all?

SPEAKER_00

Like how how is one person doing something and the other person has no idea?

SPEAKER_01

Like, I I I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not a woman. Yeah, so I couldn't be like the nerve endings, yeah, yeah. You should at least feel something brushing against some shit. You know what I mean? If they're touching your body, you know, but but that may that may be slightly over exaggerated. Uh-huh. She may have not feel like she maybe feel feel him on her, but yeah, like feel it inside and pleasurable is probably what she was more so speaking to. That's crazy work. Yeah, but but thank God. That's the little things I thank God every day. Yeah, like thank god I don't gotta go through that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Yeah, they probably wouldn't even be a race so silly. What you think? I I I feel like I wouldn't be in front of the world like that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, you'll be some type of scientist.

SPEAKER_00

Um, or I don't know. I'd be I I don't know. I couldn't even hit some of the jokes that's on there.

SPEAKER_01

Would you hate the world? For a little bit, yeah. Yeah, I got that.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. What? Yeah, picture, picture, what? Picture growing up, first of all, not even as a man when you could just be on your own and shit. Picture growing up and having to go to high school or middle school. You can't be a part of none of these jokes. Yeah, yeah. You know, you finding shit out like that you didn't know about, like where it's at and what what you gotta do with it and all that because you know you can't you can't be a part of this conversation.

SPEAKER_01

Cause then oh my god. Yeah, you can't even you can't you can't you can't play spin the bottle where you can't play spin the bottle over nobody's absolutely that's that's exactly what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

You can't fuck with nobody for real. Yeah, yeah. You can't fuck with nobody for real because wait till y'all go to school tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. It's everybody, oh yeah, yeah. They can't wait to see once they saw what you got, they can't wait to tell everybody about it.

SPEAKER_00

It's over with, yeah, yeah. Niggas had fun doing shit like that. What is that? Just just I don't know, just just overly sexualized things in high school. Oh, okay, I got you. Yeah. But um, I thought we was way farther.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god. I was like, damn, 36 minutes. I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, time flying by, yeah, yeah. Or time's not flying by. I felt like we bit definitely was an hour in at this point. Oh god. Um that's funny. No, but that's that that's truly, yeah, yeah. Hearts, you know, prayers, thoughts and prayers, for yeah, for those individuals. You had a couple things.

SPEAKER_00

Uh just some random questions. Um so I just typed in, you know, like certain, certain. This is completely off subject from what we what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

This is good. We got a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00

So, what truth about yourself took you the longest to admit?

SPEAKER_01

What truth about myself?

SPEAKER_00

About yourself took you the longest to admit.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I am sensitive and emotional.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, a lot of men, a lot of men, usually the the crazy ones can't say that. Yeah. The super crazy niggas. Yeah, I still be hearing stories about how crazy niggas are.

SPEAKER_01

And now I'll be like emotional. Oh, like, okay, like I'm emotional all all around. Like, I can be very happy. You know, like I experience all emotions. Not that I and I maybe to a degree may go, yeah, I do go over beyond sometimes, but you know, I still have a rational mind. And whether I pursue something with that rational mind, my the thought is like, bruh, you gotta think about the consequences and repercussions of your actions because if you go overboard, nigga, that's 30 years. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, you know what? I do not want to spend my life in a jail.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, yeah, so that's funny. Uh I think um be what I say, what's the truth? What's what's what truth about yourself took you the longest to admit? Um, probably that I need help. Like, always like like with the things that I do, I'll I've always been so talented that it would get me through any door. And like it would um I don't know, I would just have like a certain amount of skills that'll uh um if I if I walk into a situation, a room, or uh uh a relationship or a friendship, usually my presence there kind of elevates things a little bit. So I think I used to have the big head and just feel like even with Ray So Silly, just like I can do this all by myself, I don't need nobody, and all that, and like that shit ain't true. Like that shit is it's really not like even now, like um one of the next things I'm doing is is writing movies, and I always kind of wanted to do a lot of that on my own just so I can put something out and it could feel like this is from me, this is my shit, and all that. But over the past, I don't know, four four years or so. You just realize you need people, you need uh shit. I I might need one of my homies to um look over this script that I did, and then it could be better than it was. So, yeah, that big head shit, that shit. Yeah, uh

SPEAKER_01

Ask me that question again. This is how I heard what you just said. Ask me that question.

SPEAKER_00

So, what truth about yourself took you the longest to admit?

Petty Energy And Choosing Peace

SPEAKER_01

Man, I got too much money. Yeah, yeah. I had so much that I didn't want to believe it until I got there. Well, yeah. It was just I'm being uh obviously over exaggerating. Yeah. But he's like, man, yeah, yeah. I need a team. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I thought I did.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'll mess with you. Taking it far, but you know, no, hell no. We need we need each other.

SPEAKER_01

You know, no, for sure. I I agree. I'm just being funny.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no. I get that. I'm I'm kind of like searching for some other shit. Um what? That don't even make sense. Umigo? This says, do you believe healing changes who you're attracted to? Healing changes who you are attracted to.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean healing?

SPEAKER_00

Like it can be in any area of your life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I'd say for sure. I mean, because sometimes you don't know what you don't like until you've had it. Facts. Yeah. So you realize, hey, this ain't really what I thought I wanted. So you got to recover from that, we uh evaluate your situation, and then I feel like that's a healing process, and then learn and go, and it may your desires may change. Um, but speaking on healing, it was um something that I realized was like coming out of a relationship, is like healing is not always what I expected. Like, um like when I was when when I came out of a relationship, I was relieved. Like I was like, you know, like I always I mentioned before, like feeling like a camel, like there's so much load. And once that load gets off of you, it's a relief that you don't got 50 pounds weight bag on you, you know, obviously. But then you that's just a relief process, but then you come back and then you re-evaluate, and now it's like now it's the grieving process of what you don't have, and that was what I thought like, shoot, I'm out of this relationship, I'm cool, you know what I mean? But like now it's actually you've been single for a while. There's a lot of things that what you're thinking about that you which you didn't have previously that you do miss.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And now that was a longer process than what I thought I would go through. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, damn, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Like there's more to deal with after for sure. Oh, just being happy about being yourself, and then you saying now you have to deal with yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I know I was just saying in terms of like um it was exactly healing, thank you. Um, and but how different that process looks. Oh, yeah, yeah. Cause I still maintain some of the same points I had. Um, like, hey, having you know, dating a woman with a child really ain't it to me. And that's still my point. But now that I look back at it, that's also coming from my one experience being inexperienced. So, like, for example, it's like if I throw you in a if I throw you in to be a referee in a football match, right? You know, you you don't know what to do, you don't know the hand signals. Yeah, they're going to be mad at you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you're in turn gonna be mad about the situation. It's gonna turn you off about being a referee in general.

SPEAKER_00

Uh oh, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. So, so, but if you was to do it again, even though it may still be tough, you may there's a little bit of experience. So I I do wanna like, hey, I still have my stance of like, hey, I only dated one person with a child once, and that's still not something I like to do. But I am more um understanding that that is my first experience of being inexperienced. Uh-huh. So maybe, you know, I there should be a little bit more grace in my standards of choosing. Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_00

If that makes sense. Right. No, that's that's cool to uh to to to hear that. No, it's definitely a um Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it it just the the terms of healing, it just really kind of reminded me of what you were saying. Um, yeah, because one, healing is I thought being naive and silly. Um that like, all right, you know, once it's over, I'm gonna, you know, be sad and go through it in a couple months, I'll be alright. I'll be back kicking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you realize, like, nah, it's actually it's you don't choose that time. And it was best I was like, okay, I have to actually sit with this. Yeah, truly, instead of just trying to throw it out in the back of my mind. Like, even when I was like, even we if we come out of a relationship, we may f have a rebound.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That rebound, you're still gonna have to deal with the the relationship in itself, the trauma, the the memories, yada yada, in it. So all of all of it's just delaying your grief, quote unquote grieving process or your healing process.

Healing, Relief, And Grief After Breakups

SPEAKER_00

No, I did I went through that for sure. I went through that before, and I I didn't even know. I didn't even know what was going on with me till like way later. Like I'd be hearing that shit from from friends sometimes. Like I told you about like one of our friends that they slick sort of just broke up. Um, and then just certain certain decisions that are being made. I'm like, I I can I understand that completely because like I don't know. It's really reacting, it's react, it's it's it's yeah, it's it's just the whole process of truly seeing yourself, you know. So that that is a couple of things that I I had to go through too and not even realize till way later. Like, oh shit, I actually don't even like when I do this. I actually don't even like and then you know me now, like it's a lot of shit I don't be doing for real. Cause I just know me and like I I know how I'm gonna feel if da da da da da. So yeah, we definitely learn a lot about ourselves in those.

SPEAKER_01

Are you still healing from any of your relationships?

SPEAKER_00

Healing from it. Um I don't I don't think healing from it. Nah, I I couldn't say healing from it. Uh nah, you know, I had to go through a couple different processes for for um a couple of the the relationships or situationships that I've had and had to learn a lot or whatever, but it's been a while now, you know, since since all that. So yeah, I feel like I know myself like way, way more than I did because of those whole situations. And I had to really sit with myself and like like we said on another podcast, like ask myself why and why did I feel this? Why is it still in my mind? Why the you know, all that type of stuff? Or how how did this relationship go here or there? Then like when I sit with myself, then I just kind of realize what happened, and um had to go through that whole process. So I don't think I'm healing from anything.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think that you at some point or do you feel like you're like completely out of love with the people you love before?

SPEAKER_00

Um you know, the the quick answer is yes. Um you know, I've seen I've seen people that I haven't seen in a very, very long time that I've uh once dated, and like there's nothing there, you know. Um but you really don't know, even on not not on a romantic level, but like when you spend so much time with somebody, then like you just recently saw um one of your yeah, like did you feel anything? I didn't, yeah. It's like you never know until like you see it or like you're there because it's out of sight, out of mind. So it's just every single day is just dying that feeling.

SPEAKER_01

So it felt like an old homie for real.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly, exactly. So that's that's how I be feeling. You know, so I don't know if that's like what percentage of love that is, but like if it is, it's like small, but it's not romantic either. Yeah, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Are you are are you slight bit curious of what they got going on?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

No. Um don't even care care to to reach out. I guess.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I mean some some um if one of them was to win an Oscar today, would you be happy for 'em?

SPEAKER_00

Uh the short the short answer would be um indifferent.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like you know, if if if um like I know where you were going with that. But yeah, okay. So yeah, I know where you were going with that, but uh the short answer would be like shrug shoulders. I might look off, then wait till they get off the stage or whatever. But you know, that's that's just the the the the the short answer.

SPEAKER_01

It's all love stuff. I feel like the quick the answer is I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe I don't, I don't know, but I I I got a strong sense that you will feel away. It wouldn't even feel it. There wouldn't be, it would be like straight numb. Yeah, it would just be like, oh okay.

SPEAKER_01

That doesn't, I don't feel like that's not how you truly feel on time. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

All right, yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, nope, no, that's nope. Nope. Thought about that a couple times. Like if not now, not recently, but like back then and shit, yeah. It could be some number one on Netflix. I'm like, well, what's number two? But yeah. No, it's all love, but like, yeah, just some shit, brand. I I just leave that shit in the past, bro.

SPEAKER_01

So if you dated a singer, you couldn't no longer listen to that music if y'all was broken up.

SPEAKER_00

I could. It depends on how it went though. Okay. Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And it depends on how bumping that that music is, too. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

If she's dropping some Drake tracks, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, nah, it just depends on. I'm really, I'm really, really, really big on.

SPEAKER_01

What about the thank you next? Like if you was Thank You Next? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it that would be funny. Okay. I think I I first of all that song is is is cool. But uh That would be funny. I wouldn't even be mad at that. I gotcha. Okay. No, I wouldn't be mad at that. That'd be funny.

SPEAKER_01

But um But what if she like made like a fuck nigga free?

SPEAKER_00

A fuck nigga free and then mention me and it huh?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, like but it's about you, clearly. It's about me, but it's not your name. But uh people probably like you know, the people who read all the lyrics, like it's about her ex-boyfriend, yada yada. So yeah, so everybody knows, but it's your lyrics, your name is not in the song.

SPEAKER_00

Then my next video.

SPEAKER_01

And she's talking about being single. Well, near free, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

My next video would drop, and that would be the background music, and I'd be turning up to them. Yeah, it is I I I I'm I'm I'm pretty lighthearted with with everything, you know what I'm saying? I'm not I don't hate nobody, don't you know anything like that. The only thing that would make me move different or think differently about somebody is like uh I I I have a very close knit um or a tight knit when it comes to uh the people that I hang around. So it's like usually the people that I hang around or work with or whatever, it's like my actual friends. So um the only way for me not to engage or cheer or like whatever, then something happened on a friendship level. Then that that would be the only reason that I wouldn't um like engage or or some shit like that with anybody. Yeah, so you know, if they have fun with it, then I'll have fun with it too. It really don't matter.

SPEAKER_01

So it's it doesn't sound like you classify yourself as a petty person.

SPEAKER_00

A petty person? No, not not not initially. Not initially. I know I have that in me, but it's just like I I'm really big on, damn, if I invite this energy in, now I gotta deal with the energy that I just bigged up.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So like if somebody does something, and if I choose to engage, now I'm I'm inviting all of that shit.

Changing Standards And Experience

SPEAKER_01

So for example, if she goes through your phone, do you feel I feel like at this point you should go through hers? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

No, uh, no, not on that level.

SPEAKER_01

So if she cheated, you stayed with her, would you cheat back?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't uh yeah, that'd be hard anyway. Yeah. But um yeah, no, that would be hard to I feel like it would be hard to stay. I've done that before, and it's just like then it's just questions, you know, like damn, what she mean by that. This one girl cheated on me, and then later on she was like, she just said it real quick. I was like, what you doing? Going to my mom's? I'm like, you know, everything changes like after that shit. And I don't feel like dealing with thinking about that shit. So, but no, I wouldn't cheat back. I ain't I ain't really like that type of name.

SPEAKER_01

Are you the type to share your location? Yeah, permanently.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

I mean if we locked in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if we locked in, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Of course.

SPEAKER_00

I don't um I don't see why not for real.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, unless I'm hiding some shit or you the girl hiding some shit. Because if you just going to work at home and now with your girls on Saturday, what's the what's the problem? Yeah, what's the issue for real?

SPEAKER_01

That just stalking my moves.

SPEAKER_00

Stalking the moves? I'm just checking on little uh baby girl.

SPEAKER_01

You've been in Costco for a mighty long time. Cheating. You gotta now you gotta explain everything. Like then they're no longer just asking about your day, they're explaining you're explaining yourself.

SPEAKER_00

No, I think it's they know where you're at. I th I think that depends on who you with. It just depends on who you with. Like, shit, uh yeah, I was in to share my location in multiple relationships, and I'll get a message like, so you at Starbucks. Like, that's the type of shit I'll get. Yeah, or or I'll I might do that uh uh with her. Boom, she at um Chipotle or something. And I sh I know she just got there, and then I'll like probably like send her some money for Chipotle before she even ordered her meal. Like, that's the type of stuff I'm thinking when I'm thinking about like sharing locations and shit. Yeah. So nah, nah, nah. But but when the relationship falls apart, I definitely say turn them all off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Or you just turn them off. You don't say it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because then that's when shit just don't. Yeah, that's when niggas start thinking too much of shit.

SPEAKER_01

We I think we did it. Yeah, we did. All right. Well, this is two for the culture. We love y'all. We'll be back.

SPEAKER_00

We'll be back.