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We catch up on creating content and break down the difference between a video that “hits” and one that truly goes viral. Then we get honest about dating boundaries, trust, and what it really takes to build a relationship that survives real life. 
• how we define “viral” versus regular momentum 
• the upside and downside of becoming a meme 
• why knowingly dating someone with OnlyFans feels hard 
• what “access” to your partner does to trust 
• building a wife through values versus job titles 
• careers we think can add practical strength to a household 
• jobs that trigger our “orange flag” instincts 
• why we struggle to trust 100% and how stories shape that 
• bald heads as confidence, trauma, or a reset button 
• what a therapist would clock fast about our patterns 
• how relationship rust shows up in small habits 
• why vulnerability can feel risky for men 
• pride, money stress, and asking your partner for help 
• why we need to see each other in hard times 


Welcome And Life Updates

SPEAKER_02

And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante. I'm Stephen Ray. And yes, sir, we are back. What's going on, man? How you doing? I'm doing well. Doing well, man. It's a beautiful day. It's been a lot of beautiful days lately. Yeah, I can't complain. I see you on Instagram exercising. Y'all, yeah. You feeling great? Yeah, I feel like really good. You fasting still or are you done? Fasting? Well, no, because that's how you eat, right? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. I ain't fast.

SPEAKER_00

I haven't fasted yet.

SPEAKER_02

I probably should. Oh, okay. I thought you was like doing some type of fasting. But maybe fasting, I just like quit vices and shit like that. So I feel amazing. I got you. Yeah. Um, I saw, yeah, you've been putting out some videos and they've been uh making some movement.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they have. Yeah. I uh my first couple, it's kind of like going to the gym, you know, at when you haven't been in a long time and you can't like think about going too hard, just show up. Right. You know, so I, you know, my first couple, usually though those are the hardest ones. It's like getting out there and like I don't be knowing what the like I be, I be I be feeling like I'm everybody else. Like that doesn't know me, like picture you never met me or whatever. And you like, how do they think of this joke to put in here? I be thinking that, like showing up on day one again. Like that shit, that shit it it makes me feel like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I got you. Yeah, but after the first couple, after the first week, then now I'm have more of a flow of what I'm doing. So I got you. I I feel good. Well, what you been on?

Posting Daily And Riding Trends

SPEAKER_02

Um, same old, same old. Nothing, nothing's changed in a week or so. Um, you know, so I've been living life, life's good so far. Um, so I can't complain. No new updates. Yeah. Um, but on that video, um since it is uh creating a lot of movement. Which one? Uh the Sydney Sweeney joint. Yeah. I had I did two of them. Um the one I'm speaking to is like when he's like barking like a dog on the OnlyFan. When I guess because that's coming from uh Euphoria. Yeah. Did you watch the episode of Euphoria? No, it just dropped.

What Counts As Truly Viral

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm I'm I'm I'm very in tune with uh social media at this moment. Um so if something's happening that day, uh because I have so much stuff going on, like I'll try to just do make sure I do like one that day. And usually, I mean, I mean, for the past week, like whatever's going or being talked about that day, I'll try to do that exact thing to catch. Right. So I woke up and I saw her being dragged by a collar or some shit, and I was like, I'm doing that shit today. And uh euphoria is so big that uh the episode dropped on Sunday and it was immediately up for download. Right. So yeah, I just had the shit, had the whole episode.

SPEAKER_02

And what determines a viral video for you? Like, is there a certain amount of viewership that you uh would you classify this as a viral video?

SPEAKER_00

I classify it as like it hit, or like, all right, cool, that's out of there. Okay, when it was five minutes and that shit I checked back and it went from like 700 views and I refreshed and it said 10,800, and I was like, this is out of here. Okay, I got you. So I classify it as out of here, but since I've actually like well, to me, since I've actually like been viral, like with the hurt bait thing and the um, it's like two or three videos where we got like 15 million. Okay, like those, those are like viral, like it's beyond me, it's beyond Ray So Silly, it's just out, you know, and I have no control over this video. That to me is like the definition of viral.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I I got you. So when other news outlets or uh Instagram pages pick it up, and that page has a lot of viewership, is that it's just along the lines?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it is, but I mean like an excessive amount. Like you would know people who are not even on social media knows what viral is because like you'll remember certain key points. Do you remember the why the fuck you lying, dude? Right, yeah, viral. Yeah, you probably don't know no more of his videos.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but that's ex but that seemed like that's the extreme.

SPEAKER_00

That's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so it has to be that extreme.

SPEAKER_00

To me, that's what viral is. Okay, yeah, I only did it like twice. Okay, I've been in this shit for like 15 years. Okay, it's not easy to do, right? So, but um, but yeah, I I'll I'll but it's also relative, you know, like to the conversation. Somebody might have to have like 500 views and be like, damn, you got a million in a day? It's crazy. And like, yeah, that's viral to them, but right it's it's it's it's relative.

SPEAKER_02

And how would you feel if you like with like a national meme? Like how Jordan has a crying face, they always like picture you whether good or bad, would you appreciate that? Or would you like, you know, everybody sees you, so you're you know, like, hey, this is him at 50 years old. You remember this guy? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's too funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so would that be like, hey, I mark my I made my mark on the world, or is it more of hey, this would be a nuisance because whatever I do, everybody's gonna see me as it's me.

SPEAKER_00

Um uh all all all attention usually dies out, but um I'd be happy with it. Oh, okay. Yeah, like it's not like I just took the trash out, now I'm trash man for the rest of my life. Um so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I I I would fuck with that. That that would be that would be kind of cool to add that to my my my repertoire.

SPEAKER_02

Even if you was like on a you know, like uh railhouse wise type of thing, and it was you like crying on it. Yeah, yeah. And like every time you do it, the Will Smith joint. Yeah, Ju and the Will Smith.

SPEAKER_00

He's just like like the the the uh Yeah, with the red eyes and like Terry, yeah. Ah, that would kind of be annoying eventually. Yeah, it depends. Social media is left and right. I know, I got it. So uh it would, it would either way, I would know outside, not outside looking in, but if I zoom out of the situation, I would know I have some type of motion to be well, I it could go, it could go either way. It could go either way, but usually in situations like that, there's already a person who has motion, and then they do a face or like Michael Jordan or Will Smith or whatever, and then it happens. But then of course there are other things where you just normal as hell and that shit just went viral, like the dude, you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_02

Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You don't know who this nigga is, or the dude with the kind of arm folder with the phone in his head he's super fucking viral, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, um, yeah, or like that's too funny. I wonder what he was doing. Yeah, right, exactly. That was too funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, uh but but I did have uh uh a question on that video as itself because it just kind of sparked uh a thought in my mind. Um Sydney Sweeney, OnlyFans. Right. So I assume you would not date knowingly that um somebody you're pursuing has the OnlyFans. Would you date them or not?

SPEAKER_00

Umadays it it would it would uh definitely I don't think I would. Okay. I don't think I would. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. Um because I did before and like the the the it was like one of them situations where like I got with the girl shit got hard for her. She was in an environment at that time where everything was overly sexualized around her, everything, her, her, her friend group, her everything to the point where bills started to be due, and you know, like a whole bunch of stuff was going on to where I could understand somebody being allowing pressure to make them make like a decision, you know, to to because some of the man, most of them people they be feeding their families with that shit. You know, it don't it ain't just like they just popping pussy and then you know, like that that's the who they are, uh uh uh even when they sign off, they might be like very respectable people, you know. Well, I'm just saying, I've I've I I've I've seen more than what I thought that that was. Yeah. So I don't know. Actually, having done that though, and thinking that I was never gonna do that, and having done that and what that kind of felt like on the other side of it, is just like I would rather not, I rather not like do that shit again. Right. Yeah, so but you know, you I don't know. Like if I end up dating a girl and she don't tell me, and I'm like, ah, fuck. I just dated two girls with OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_02

Right, yeah. And that's why I led with knowingly. Yeah. Yeah, because you can, you know, it's harder when you don't know what's happening, you fall in love with somebody, and then you figure out this other side of them. Yeah. And that's I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_00

That's that's very tough to handle with. No, I can do it. Yeah. Now I think about it and like what that felt like and nowadays, like just because I went through that already, I couldn't do that. Yeah. I got you. Because you're just being marketed, bro. Like you're being marketed to other. I mean, you know, to get your money, all that, you know, that's cool. But like I'm I'm a very um, I love my woman. Like, I don't want nobody else messaging her. I don't give a fuck if all the messages are AI. Like, I get it, I get the hustle, I get the grind and all that, but it's just like other people feel like they got access to my woman. That doesn't make me feel good. Right.

SPEAKER_02

I understand.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, even if it's fake, right? Even if you run it up a check and it's not even you. Like, I get that. I understand that the business wise, however, I don't want no other nigga, like we walking on the street and like, man, I'll be talking to you. Like, I ain't trying to hear that shit. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, I hate it. That's just me. But you know, would I have fun with something?

Designing A Wife Beyond A Job

SPEAKER_02

Maybe I got you. Um because that really brought me into um if you could build a wife, what preferred occupation would you want her to have? That's hard. Like, I'm just saying, for your your uh your lifestyle, is there any skills that you would want her to have to, you know, better y'all as a couple?

SPEAKER_00

It's really just like it's really just like a moral thing. Okay. Like it's not like a I don't know she could be she could be a vegetable.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, she can be a lot of things, but I'm saying if you're building this person, what would you prefer? Like, for example, like, hey, I would want somebody who's a teacher because I want my children to be well educated, and I know that's gonna be, you know, overemphasized because um she teaches for a living.

SPEAKER_00

Um I don't know what the job would be, but I have seen I have seen situations where a man gets with a woman or there's a married couple, like for instance, Ryan Cooler and Zinzi, I can tell off-rip that Zinzi makes Ryan Cooler better. Like, is is kind of undeniable when you just look at the aura of both of them, and that is kind of like um a helpmate or like a uh a teammate in life, you know, it it's not necessarily a specific job, but how they are as a person, if it could like elevate me, then I'd whatever that is.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So what uh what about you?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I want to add on. I a couple things. Like edu teacher is like if I'm like I said, building somebody, then a teacher would be nice. Why why a teacher? Uh for the reasons I just mentioned, in terms of like educating our children, you know, I you know, I don't love the idea of how public schools are in terms of like it's this, you know, this systematic situation that they're in, kids have to sit there all day. You know, it's um then education is not that strong in terms of like how much they pour into the kids. And and I'll speak to my city in Nashville in general. That you know, it's really kind of pissed pour, if you ask me. So, you know, something outside of that, somebody who's um is a professional in that area would definitely be nice. Um, you know, a healthcare background would be cool, you know. Why is that um for all the reasons you could guess? Um uh knowing more about the body is always gonna, you know what I mean? Like, who wouldn't want that? Yeah, like hey, has uh professionals, you know, uh I don't hey to use are expert, but because they, you know, it's experience, I should more say experience is dealing with people on a day to day day-to-day basis, ailments, all that stuff collectively, you add on to the analogy, like, hey, you know what? I've seen this this particular issue with some of my patients, you should try this. And just that extra knowledge always helps. Um, real estate background would be nice, like maybe you know, um some type of uh you don't have to be a realtor, but you can also, you know, be management uh of an apartment company, just having that knowledge.

SPEAKER_00

And I feel like money.

SPEAKER_02

I mean or like why why that's well I'm saying that in terms of because there's property that I may want to invest in and build that together, and you already have the know-how to, you know, you see leases on a day, you know kind of what to look for that I may miss, you know. So having that person that you trust would help too. So yeah, those are the ones that kind of came off, you know. Of course, the lawyer, you know, you never know what's going on, you know, really what could happen. If I'm building this person arguments, huh? She's gonna win them arguments, and I'm cool with I'm cool with somebody who's gonna challenge me on things as long as it's logical and makes sense. Then okay, all right, you can win if I'm wrong. Yeah, no, I'll just push it. Yeah, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but no, that's um that makes sense. Yeah, it's it's it's sort of sort of the same, just like elevating whatever you already kind of want for yourself in life. Right, right, kind of yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Something that's gonna add on as whole, like I said, these are like if I'm building a person, they don't have to uh necessarily have these traits for them to you know be my wife, but um but so you but you're saying because the things that you mentioned were more personality based. No. Because you just like anything about personality. Well, I'm just saying you like, hey, I don't know what uh Ryan Coogler's wife does, but you can tell she she elevates him.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It's the same thing if you're saying uh if you are looking to put in a real estate and she knows uh about it or whatever, that's helping you in a way, it's helping both of y'all like reach a new height. Yeah, but you it's not a personality.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm saying in terms of yeah, anybody with uh occupation can elevate you. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, any they don't have to have an occupation to elevate you. Right. So I'm saying that's who they are, so that that's more to the person, not to their job. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah, you try okay, just uh a specific job versus um who they are.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. If you could build a wife, what preferred occupation would you want her to have?

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, I still stand on what I say. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So so my my follow-up question to that um is so she can be warehouse, you work in a warehouse late night shift, and as long as she elevates you, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, eventually um yeah, if I meet her there, sure. Okay. Yeah, it's not uh I ain't judging on nothing, but like um yeah, no, I I I've been with um I've been with um I I remember two different situations where I was with a girl and she had a lot going for herself, but like it didn't motivate me at all just because of like who how they made me feel in general. And then there was another girl who was jobless, lost her shit. And um, well not lost it, but like they were they were doing a bunch of stuff. She she didn't have a job at the time when we got together. But when I got with her, I wanted to work all the time. Like I should that that was the first time I ever wanted to like leave the house and work hard as fuck just so I could come back. Like, you know, have my shit done so I could just like just chill, you know what I'm saying? And and and um it was motivating me, you know, and she she didn't have a job. So yeah, I think it's it's like a moral thing. Like, do you do you have the qualities of kind of going back to what you saying, like a wife? Like some some people want some girls just want to be a wife. Now that that doesn't mean like they ain't doing nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So they can have ambitions and passions and this and that, uh, but they also have qualities that just like just elevates, you know, the the the the the mind of a man or at least their their um their person.

Jobs That Trigger Red Flags

SPEAKER_02

So so but there are jobs that you um you couldn't do if if that was her occupation. For as like, hey, I won't date a person who does this thing, or every job is on the table. I mean OnlyFans. Uh and sell sell outside of selling her body like working at a strip club or not working at a strip club, being a stripper.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, it's just it's yeah, it's like I respect the grind in hustle. It's just it's just just it's just me. Like I can't I can't have another nigga just Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So what if she was a bartender at that strip club? I could deal with that. Okay. Yeah, would I would I like to? Not really. What if she was a security guard for other rappers? Why she's so big? She may she may have an MMA background.

SPEAKER_00

MMA background. Um I think I could deal with that. Okay. I've heard I've heard of jobs that men should look out for. It's nurse. Okay, it's flight attendant, and I've talked to a few flight attendants, not saying like try to date, but like they had conversations with them, and they that shit checks out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I feel you. That shit checks out in terms of what was the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

It makes sense, bro. Like every fucking uh couple hours, it's a whole new fleet of people. It's only one or two women on the I mean, you know, like there's a there's only a few women that's going back and forth on this thing. So just as a man, I'm sure you remember a time being on a plane, like, oh, she's cute, or whatever. Right, but I'm saying, like, in that week, do you know how many of you how many of you she sees? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like I don't know. Like, I again I I've I I've had conversations with some flight attendants, and that shit checks up. Okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So they're like we hoes. No, not that. But it's just like men just want to, you know, the any any caliber of man, they all on this flight. So like it's kind of like going to the club and being pretty.

SPEAKER_02

So they're having sex with them. Is that what you're telling me? Uh no. Okay, so what you what you what you're doing?

SPEAKER_00

I'm just saying, I'm I'm saying, well, the the the one that or the conversations that I had, at least with one of them. Nah, she wasn't, but she knew that she could. Of course. Yeah, she was getting money out of plenty niggas.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, okay. That's uh that sounds like a lot of women. That now I'm you know, that's not just towards flight attendants.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just saying, in terms of a woman who's working in a cubicle versus a flight attendant, that flight attendant has a lot of play. Yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so flight attendant, nurse. I I ain't really talked to m many nurses.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so if she's an Uber driver, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I mean, yeah. Get your money. I mean, I can again, like, I can't have because once I tell myself, man, I don't know about like a bartender at a strip club. I've said these things. I don't know about a girl who's on OnlyFans, but I ended up dating these women. So it's like me just straight up saying, nah, I can't date it. I might go to the coffee shop, see a girl. I'm like, oh, I really like her. Three weeks later, I realize she's a flight attendant. And I'm like, oh fuck. Well, I guess this is for the plot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And these are all these aren't gonna be absolutes. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, but it's a little, you know, the the Dogs be doing when they be hearing you. Yeah, yeah. And your spidey senses tingle a little bit. Like, hey, this is a uh I don't want to say absolute red flag, but it may be, it may be costly, it may be orange.

Why Trust Feels Hard To Give

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it depends. It depends. It depends on it depends on the girl. Depends on how she feels about you. Depends on how again, I still don't trust, um, I mean, it's sad to say, but like I don't don't trust women to the 100%.

SPEAKER_02

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00

Cape the the the the bar of like zero to one hundred. I don't I don't really trust a woman to a hundred percent. Like break it down a little bit more. Just they could anybody can do um whatever that they want to do. And I've heard so many stories and seen things to where it's just like I I would have to be so locked in with a woman to like fully trust her. And even then, probably in the back of my head would be like if something happened, it's gonna eventually come out. Yeah. Not like oh, I trust her a hundred percent. Like, you know, that's my woman. She would never do right. Yeah, I got you. I don't know if I could ever say that.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, how long ago was it to where you felt like that? Like I feel like that for years. No, I'm just saying, felt like, hey, my woman would never like you had that in high school. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah. Like you never know.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so yeah, even so has time has there been times to where guys like report it back to you, like, hey bruh, you need to watch out for your girl. No, that's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but uh just stories which is eventually come out, you know what I'm saying? Just like, oh you know, those, those, those, those things, like, all right, boom, we break up, you immediately go to somebody. How did that happen? Like, there was clearly something in play beforehand, and you start putting the clues together. Um, yeah, or I'll hear, I'll hear from I've heard stories like from girls that I've dated, and just shit, they just be happening, bro. It don't matter if you got that girl location. No, one time I heard about one time I heard about a girl who was engaged with a man and her dude had her location. And all he knew was she was over her friend's house, and he knew the location of the friend. And this girl's fucking on a whole nother nigga at her friend's house. Damn. Like, it don't matter if you have now again. This is a certain type of woman, sure. So uh, but yeah, it don't matter, right? Like, it don't matter if you got this girl location or you could have everything on her. You know, you could put a chip in her pussy, like find a way around it. So, you know, that that that's just my my mindset, and you know, that's not every woman for sure, but because I've heard stories like that, and um yeah, shit like that is just kind of hard for me to just you know, look like uh what's that nigga name? The Titanic um Jack. No, uh uh the the dude who played on Titan. Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio. It's hard for me to like stand on a shift and be like, I trust her. Like I got you. I ain't I can't I I I trust you as as as much as I can. Okay, I got you. Yeah, I feel like I'm more trustworthy than well, I don't know. Again, it's not every woman, but I always had this thing in the back of my head. That's like it don't matter, it don't matter how much I got on this girl. Like, if she wants to do something, she's gonna do something. Okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_02

And you said that'll probably never go away.

SPEAKER_00

Probably not.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think I think the the higher that I climb in um yeah, to just his success, I I feel like I'll see worse and worse. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I got you. Usually, usually a lot of men, well, not a lot of men, but I've heard from a lot of successful men, usually all of them who aren't who don't get married, and who don't, whatever, all of them niggas scarred because of what they done seen. And but it's probably still a certain type of woman.

SPEAKER_02

But it's not that your choosing wrong, it's just that you can, you know, you can never really tell who that person is.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's just circumstances. I think it's circumstances. I think um, yeah, a girl can be super in love with me and tell me she'll never leave and da da da da da da da da da. But like if I start doing shit that creates turbulence in the house, I start to be looked at a different type of way. Or this other man starts to be more attractive than he was a month ago. Or, you know what I'm saying? Right. Just certain things change.

SPEAKER_02

And I I guess my real question is, do you think you lead with your eyes too much? Leave with my eyes, or is that just kind of natural for him?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I think that men are visual, physic, physical beings. Um, so I think off rip, sure. But I'm I've grown from that though. Like getting with a girl just because she's pretty, like that shit dead. Okay. Yeah, it's that's just yeah. Like I I I walk around happy now. Like I would love to stay that way. You know, man, like it don't matter how cute or fine she is, whatever. Like, I I feel that everybody, everybody on earth has, you know, their good side and then this other side to them, and it's how you balance it out with yourself individually. And then from there, you gotta balance that shit out with your partner. And that's what makes relationships.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I understood. Yeah. Um, do you have anything? Or I can continue cooking.

SPEAKER_00

I just wanted to give you a um uh oh um what it what what did you think about that though? About about all that. The uh the uh what what was the last question?

Dating A Bald Woman Question

SPEAKER_02

Um I'm not really sure. Yeah, me either. Yeah, yeah. But I'm gonna continue cooking and then we're gonna Yeah. So um I apologize if I've already asked this question on the pod before. Oh but uh could you date a woman with a bald head? Yeah. Okay, no problem. Yeah, no, you ain't never asked me that. Uh okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, I could. It'll be new. Okay. But um, yeah, I feel like that's like that's that's that's a lot of confidence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

In general. Okay. So I I I really have a follow-up because it was such a random thought, obviously. And I just want your opinion on it. So I think when a this was actually a uh question on a previous podcast, and I can kind of tell you where it came from, but I uh I think when a woman um all of a sudden shaves her hair bald is a sign of like a mental health breakdown slash issue. How do you feel about that, though? Do you agree, disagree? I the times that you've seen it, I I don't, you know what I mean? Like most of the times when you hear about it, you see it, it's typically that. Yeah or nay.

SPEAKER_00

No. Okay. Not for the most part.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Brittany Spears, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think she had something going on, and then all of a sudden she was just bald. Right. But um from people that I've heard where there was a time frame where they hit the low cut or whatever, it was kind of like a new beginning type thing. Right. Yeah, but not like a breakdown, just like just wanted something new, like you know, I feel like maybe all the not a mental health breakdown, but like I feel like they just wanted to just restart, hit the hit the restart button on their life. So there could be trauma behind that, and it could be this this terrible uh relationship and it ended, and then now, you know, they want to uh uh uh rewrite their story or walk into this new chapter. Um, but I think usually from what I from what I remember, I think usually um from the stories that I've heard, it was just more so it was from a sound mind. It wasn't like for example, can you do you have one that you can Yeah uh I I've heard once of of the like the breakup thing, like you know, um had probably been in a relationship with somebody for a long ass time and it didn't go well, and then you know, some type of trauma probably with that or whatever, and then when all the dust settled and they got their new life and or uh uh kind of figured themselves out, they just kind of it's it's like a stamp to new chapter or whatever, and then like kind of shave, shave their head. Okay, so I've I've heard that story, I think, a few times.

SPEAKER_02

So I'll speak for myself. When um I see somebody that shaves their head, there's kind of the best reaction towards that is she's still pretty. It's not she looks better than she, you know, left off. Uh-huh. Do you agree or not?

SPEAKER_00

I think with some people, some people can look better. Okay, um okay. Uh-huh. I I uh I was a fan of um when Kiki Palmer shaved uh when she went with the low cut.

SPEAKER_02

We we were talking about ball headed. Something about bald. Yeah, yeah, we yeah, there's different. Yeah, no, I'm not saying like as a buzz cut. There's not like, hey, there's a little up top, and then she's saving the sides or whatever, and it's a fresh look. I'm saying like she looked like my shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like yeah, yeah. To where it's not like, hey, you know, I can see myself in the her reflection of her head. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, she had full hair to her shoulders, yeah. And she cut it all off.

SPEAKER_00

Kiki Palm hair wasn't like that long.

SPEAKER_02

I I was I don't know, but the way you were describing it, it doesn't it doesn't sound like it would look like mine. I've seen no, I've seen a girl uh I'm saying Kiki Palm getting lined up.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I don't think Kiki Palm getting lined up, but okay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying just a little longer. Like it ain't nothing crazy. But uh no, I've seen I've seen um definitely I've seen a girl before in LA. Um and she she she for sure gotta go to a barber shop.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Did you know her before here?

SPEAKER_00

I I didn't know her before, but uh she had a whole bunch of videos and stuff. So I will scroll um when I was looking through her content one day, and she had hair like months before then. She definitely looked better with the chop.

SPEAKER_02

Oh hundred percent. Oh god, gotcha. Yeah, so there are some people that just face shape. Right, right, right. They just look like and and yeah, what you wind up doing is like like you'll say the one situation, and like I'll I always preface these are not absolutes. Yeah, yeah, but in most cases they do they do not look better than where they came off of the chop. Yeah, yeah or nay.

SPEAKER_00

Um I can just I could just only assume no.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like these are everybody in my head are like very pretty women. Like right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Very, very yeah, and I I think that could I feel like the way you answer questions, I have to like preface to say, hey, yeah, there are good women that look bald headed. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm always had to play the contrarian because you you ever give a media trade that's like, yeah, there was this one chick that I saw 10 years ago. I'm like, bruh, you see plenty of people bald headed running around.

SPEAKER_00

In my head right now, I cannot think of a bunch of women. The only women that I'm thinking that I thought of that shaved their head. Yeah, it's it's a good like uh four V1. And all four of them was like super pretty women. It almost just ruins the discussion. Just to have like I've been trying to get it.

SPEAKER_02

That's just my experience. Okay, yeah, yeah. Well, you know a lot of girls who don't win ball? I mean, a a lot? Yeah, so I know several. Yeah, how about that? All them hoes chopped. That's what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean? I'm saying like chopped isn't like bad.

Haircuts As Trauma Or Reset

SPEAKER_02

Like I mean, did do I think that in like I said, most situations they either are going to look, hey, she still looks good. It doesn't look bad on her, yeah, or it's like, hey, I don't, you know, you can tell this is like not, there's something going on here. Yeah, and like her eyes are bigger today. Like, yeah, yeah, like I don't know what it is about you, but it looks like you're struggling. No. But what I'm just saying, when typically when there's there's some type of distress that happens, it may not be a full breakdown to where they're balled up on the floor, yeah, but it is it's typically a distress. And it's typically, to your point, those new chapter situations. Right. There um the the uh reason why what reminded me was uh what we talked about on the old podcast, and I saw something recently that kind of re-remembered what we discussed, and it came from the situation with Doja Cat when she was getting a lot of flack when they had her uh, you know, they had that chat room where everybody was saying the N-word to her. I don't know if you remember that, that was years ago, and then she was just getting so much black, you know, because she was getting a lot of backlash for her, you know, anti-black behavior, um, and she wound up shaving her head off. And I'm seeing a lot of these situations. Wow, yeah, and that's kind of where that came from. Uh-huh. Yeah. And Doja Cat still bald headed, looks good, but I don't think that she looked better than how than not shaving her head. Um, and I've seen countless situations to where this like if one day you full headed and the next day you're not, I'm like, okay, there's probably something going on here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like what are you trying to free yourself from?

SPEAKER_00

I see that.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And I wonder why is the hair the you know unshackling the chains. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I wonder. Um, I think that's the easiest thing to change, though. Okay. Yeah. Like if if yeah, I think I think that's that's one of the easiest things. Because it it kind of it kind of again, I'm not a woman, so this is just uh perspective. But like it kind of feels like outside looking in, the length of the hair, um uh uh uh not signify, but it it it it it relates to time, I think. So like yeah, that the length of the hair is just like I I'm really just spitting out the top of my head. But I feel like yeah, that would be years of whatever, and then you could just cut it off. It's kind of like freeing a freeing feeling, I would feel like.

SPEAKER_02

So if you're if you came home to your wife with a bald head, would you think like, okay, everything is fine. She just wanted a new cut. Oh, oh my oh, my wife, she came home with a bald head. Yeah, you walked in, she's cutting up vegetables cooking, and then you see her bald headed.

SPEAKER_00

Um just off-rip, and everything is fine already. As you know it. Right. And then I I walk in as I would ask a few questions first, just to make sure. Yeah, because that's a drastic ass change.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. And just like everything's fine, I just saw this look. You good? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, yeah, like um, definitely. I I would definitely ask for sure. That that's too drastic of a change. Right. But yeah, I would ask, uh, that would be one of the first things that I would think about.

SPEAKER_02

And just like everything's good. Everything's everything's fine. Yeah, okay. Okay, so yeah, yeah. So you recognize that behavior as something that they normally do, because I mean they're rocking the hair for years, right? And then all of this is a sudden change. That's an indication that something in your life is probably not going right. Because you never discussed this beforehand. You know, like I think I may want to try this style or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

It it was drastically this. Um, yeah, just coming home doing that is kind of kind of uh kind of wild. Um, I I I would just I would just assume or I would just think that anybody that I'm with, they would, they would preface the shit. Like they would definitely say, Yeah, I'm thinking about this, or da-da-da, and then come home. That's like me coming home with no hair. Like, oh my god, she's gonna leave me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. When they cut off their beard and they see their wife's reaction. Yeah, uh, you're so ugly.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, I couldn't even I don't even want to see that shit. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've done it a couple times and it don't look great. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's nice. Nah, I could what what made you do that though? Um going through something? Shaving off my beard. Yeah, it's a breakdown? Nah, me messing up. And then I was like, man, I might as well take this whole thing off.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I almost did that one day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I almost did this shit at your house, actually. Uh yeah, shaving and then just like went a little lower than Yeah, I just was playing music and I just grabbed the clippers and then one of the guards real quick, and I didn't check the size of the guard. I thought it was the biggest one, and it wasn't. It was shorter, and that was it. And I was like, wait. And then I tried to do it, and I had to wait like a week or a week and a half for it to like come in. It wasn't too bad, thankfully. But I don't know. With me, if I fuck up my hair, whatever, I at this point I just mentally just tell myself it's a new character on my page for like a week and a half, and I'm just doing this, it's gonna grow back and I'm gonna go back to who I am. I I gotcha. Yeah, that's that's my main way of um coping with shit I don't fuck with.

SPEAKER_02

You think that when a woman cuts her hair, she'd be like, damn, I should have done this shit.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, yeah Oh god, it's probably like nine times nine point nine times out of ten. I rock it with confidence, man. Bro, I didn't I didn't uh I I was uh dating a girl one time and she was like, Yeah, I'm just thinking about trimming my hair. Like very uppity, up right, very positive. Like, yeah, you know, like I'm really thinking of she was talking about it for like two days straight. Like, yeah, I'm like, just do it. You know what I'm saying? Like you keep talking about this, just do that shit. And she was in the mirror and she just like sniffed, sniffed. It wasn't even like a lot. Okay, you was present, yeah. Okay, she's like sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, snip. She cried for two days straight. She cried and blamed you for it.

SPEAKER_02

You told me to do this.

SPEAKER_00

Probably, probably one of them in there just to like get get it off of her. But hell yeah, she cried for two days straight. And that was with somebody who had hair still, like to like, you know, kind of like there, and it was probably like down here at one point. And she trimmed that shit, and yeah, she just started bawling. So somebody cut all they shit off. There has to be many women. There's probably a whole thread of women who cut their hair and just like, man, I I made a terrible decision. Right, right, right. Because now you gotta grow that shit out. I feel like that is that is a real tough decision, though. Because then now you gotta go through the ugly hair phase again.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the the media, the like here. Yeah, these that yeah, that shit like what, two years?

SPEAKER_02

Where it's it's tougher to style to where you can't do nothing with yeah, I know what you mean. It's either short or right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Longer, yeah, yeah. I feel you. They do not fuck with the little middle, that mid um uh uh growth period. Nah, I got you. Definitely don't fuck down.

The Therapist Would Take Notes

SPEAKER_02

What you got on your plate over there?

SPEAKER_00

Um uh this is a question. Uh let's see. Um, what happened to you that a therapist would immediately sit up and start taking notes? What happened like in my life? Oh, yeah. What happened to you that a therapist would immediately like sit up and just start taking notes on you?

SPEAKER_02

I've never been to a therapy session. So yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm saying, like, if you're in there, you just talking, you just casually talking, and then they're like, what the fuck? Hold on.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I mean, so you so you're asking for like I I know the question you're asking. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I mean it can go it any way.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right. I don't I mean, I got things that you know probably are like when we talked about childhood trauma. Yeah. You know, but yeah, yeah. It's childhood trauma, and I gotta bring that I ain't always all the way prepared to bring all that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Relationship Rust And Courtesy Habits

SPEAKER_02

But I mean, yeah, do I do I have things that were like, hey, this is concerning this probably has to do with his past? Yeah, but I mean, for the most part, I've a lot of things I st I accept that it was probably for the better. No, because You have some situations to where, like, okay, this is I need to be more humble. Like, I'll look back at the things I do. Like, if there's a sense of arrogance, I can have memories like kind of bring me back down to earth a little bit. Um, so I take it as for the better. Now, do I have I handled it and processed it in a healthy way in the past? Probably not. Yeah, yeah. And um, I have a um like uh in my mind, I want to be perfect, like make the right decision every single time. And when I do that do don't do that, I can be tough on myself as well. And that in itself, as a whole, I can name specific situations, but that thinking as a whole, I'm trying to process and work on. Yeah. So when I would probably bring out specific situations that's happened to me in my life to a therapist, I'm sure that could be like, okay, I see where this comes from. You know, this behavior indicates this, you know, then I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you?

SPEAKER_00

You got any stories or uh that that would immediately make them sit up and start taking those. Yeah, that's that's kind of I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02

I think I I think I think these next questions would be kind of well let me add, do you think that they would sit up when you talk about past relationships?

SPEAKER_00

Uh probably. Yeah. No, there were hella lessons in past relationships that I've had to deal with that I that I um Yeah, like, and I I just recently connected with somebody that I dated that that I told you about. Oh yeah, by the way, with that conversation that that with with the person that I reconnected with, but she said, she said um it was like a couple months ago, she was like, She was scrolling or some shit. I think on my page, something. Our page. Our podcast page. And she just voop voop and just clicked on something random. And it was the one where you said, uh uh uh, it was the one where you said if you could take certain qualities from each ex and put them into right, right, right. And then she said, as soon as the video started, you asked that question, and as soon as I replied and said, Look, there's probably some exes on the other side of this screen trying to figure out who they are. She was like, Oh, she's talking about me. And then like she closed it out and just never went back. I was just like, damn, that is so funny, like to act for that to actually happen.

SPEAKER_02

But um and I wouldn't even use the word reconnected, it's just something that you know, y'all reached out and had a conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Oh, no, no, yeah, right. Facts, fact, fact.

SPEAKER_00

No, it wasn't reconnected like that. Yeah, but um, um, yeah, uh uh uh uh probably so yeah, like I was I was um having a conversation with somebody, and I just like genuinely wanted to know, you know, were there qualities about me that it would be the reason that you wouldn't date me again. And I just asked that just because like I'm always still trying to grow and shit too. So, you know, I I rather like sometimes them hard questions like they'll never come out because it's kind of like why would anybody ever tell you these things? So because they may swing the block, they may swing the block, yeah. But I'm saying, like, in terms of like just if a girl asks you like like will there be reasons that you wouldn't, you would got you gotta be like real and honest with her about her shit, you know what I'm saying? And you would have never probably told her that unless that question arose for real. So uh, yeah, and it was just like crazy to to to to think because you know I was at, I was I was in the desert in the middle of the desert for like a year and a half, and the only places I went was the bar one time and the movies once. So I didn't even have social interaction, and I ended up getting a girlfriend like somewhere in that and she was naming a bunch of excuse me, qualities about me that I realized I was just rusty with human beings in general. And I was like, damn, it even came to like opening the car door and yeah, and stuff like that. And I'm like, damn, like you ain't even get to fool me for real, you know. I be chilling, you know, with Kaya, uh, my daughter, and like 95% of the time, it's just natural just opening the door for her. You know, it just is just second nature for me. So with a woman, that's gonna be second nature too. And I'm like, damn, I wasn't even doing that for you. You was my girl for real. There was times where somebody would come over or she she would come back from something, and I wouldn't like hug her quickly or or or show affection. But when I think in my head, when I don't have a woman, or even like now, if I think about a relationship that I want, it's got all of that in it, and I wasn't being none of that. And um, yeah, I just realized like, damn, like that shit, that shit is really uh kind of alarming, like how certain situations and and and and the environment and your habits and all it affects everything. So just me just sitting in a room forever, it can affect a woman needing affection. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's crazy, right? I I mean I totally agree to everything you just said. Uh a lot of that, I feel like that's what I was doing in my own past relationship. Was like, I'm so new to this again, yeah, that there's a lot of things that are probably evident in what I should do that I'm forgetting because I the relationship our previous relationship from that was like 10 years.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

So, yeah, so there's a lot of things that I gotta catch myself on because I was never, you know, outside of dating, for the most part, you know, I never had to put a true focus on it on somebody else. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, so everything that you're saying, I can apply to myself, and that's a real situation. Fixed right, yeah. And you know, to the car, like one, which is kind of loosely embarrassing to say, it was that, you know, I was talking to my mom, you know, and how I was walking ahead of her, and my mom was like, You better not ever do that again. You know, and then I had to come to her and apologize. You know, like, hey, you know what? I did this thing, I'm deeply sorry. You know, I'll make sure I'll do my best to make sure it's not happening yet. Because that is actually a problem.

SPEAKER_00

That that actually, uh, in that same in that same relationship, I did that too. I used to walk in front of her, but I got that from the relationship before that one. And like, I didn't even understand it. But like, I was with the other girl so long, I just kind of based all women off of that situation. And even in that situation, I'm like, why the fuck does she want me to walk in front of her? Like, she would actually say that. Like, I'd rather you like guide me. She worded it like that. I was like, oh, okay, like, want to be led. Okay, so I walk in front and I da-da-da-da. But in reality, I don't even like it because like I can't see you. Right, exactly. And I can't protect you. Exactly. So, and then when I got into that relationship, that was another notch on my belt. Cause it's like, why this nigga walking in front? He don't care about me. But in my head, I'm like, she wanna be led. So I I need to it's it's just crazy. It's like everything affects um the next thing. So I mean, communication is super, super, super fucking important.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And we and we're all human. Sometimes we can't always articulate exactly how we feel in that moment, too. And and and you can even as a man, it's like if I say this thing, it sounds so pussy in my head that I can't regurgitate it out loud. You know what I mean? Yeah, like we like when you say something, and that hurt my feelings for real. You know what I mean? Yeah, instead of say, hey, you hurt my feelings, you know what I mean? Yeah, I well, at least I'll speak for myself. It can be that. And so you may tuck it in a little bit, but that's poor communication because they may not know what they did wrong and we're tucking it in. So they can't make it correct, they can maybe you know see the body language and be able to read you know what's happening, but to a certain degree, they won't know the full extent. Because they may decipher as something else. Oh, I must have not did this thing, you know, before he got home.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I definitely I definitely be saying that um nowadays. Um I mean, maybe it's the company I keep too that I could like be honest and say stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02

So so you you have no problem crying in front of your chick? Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, that's gonna take a minute. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think I'm scarred. I'm one of the natural um stories that you hear about where like you cry in front of one girl and then that shit don't go right. I don't know. It's gonna be a long time before I could get that vulnerable with somebody. Or it would take a lot, it would take a whole lot for me to get that vulnerable with somebody. Because I always feel like I feel like, um, and this is of course biased because I'm a man or whatever, but I just feel like men can handle stress more than a woman can. And no matter if it's the perfect woman and she makes you feel loved and safe emotionally, and you could be super vulnerable with her and all that, I still feel like if I tell you something is stressing me out, even if you console me, even if it's the perfect day for me, and you're the perfect person, you actually uplift me. After that day, my thoughts are now in your head. So even if it was perfect and I feel like, damn, she really picked me up and da da da da da. Now you wake up tomorrow with that shit that was in my head. And it's like, damn, like I I could I could wake up tomorrow, I could feel even more motivated if I gotta like, um, or if I lose my job or some shit, and then like you make me feel like, oh, you you got this, da-da-da-da. I'm like, oh, you're right. Like, what the fuck? I can wake up the next day, but now you're thinking about what bills need to be paid. We don't need that energy in the house. But I put that on you just because I was being vulnerable with you. Right, right, right. So it's like a it's that shit. I I don't know how to get over that. Knowing that, and I've I've not necessarily tested it out, but there were other situations that I had with women that were not not even that drastic of a level. But like I could tell, even if we had a great conversation and after that, damn, them thoughts are now in your head. Even if I moved on from it and I'm good now. Like now them hoes in your head.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

And we we both don't even need that energy to be stuck. Now I gotta keep reassuring.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, right.

SPEAKER_00

Reassure, reassure, reassure. Right. Like if I'd never told you and I would have just got over it that day, you still would have been the same you were a couple days ago.

Pride And Asking For Rent Money

SPEAKER_02

Would you have no problem if she had it? So it was your responsibility to pay the rent. Right. She had it. How would you feel about asking for the money? Like, hey, I need a thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_00

Even when you said ask, start twitching inside. Hell no. I don't know. So you it's it's asking, hey, do you that shit was.

SPEAKER_02

But you know you don't got it though. So where you go you you gonna call your you gonna call your homies first and then ask your lady?

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't be yeah, living with a woman and nah, I would have to I I'd have to figure that shit out when I know that shit is coming. And whatever changed that that could be the end result, I would have to deal with it right then. Right because being broke or not having many opportunities or or or stress when you're by yourself is different from being in that shit and you living with a woman. That is not the same thing. Okay, yeah. I could go to the coffee shop for four days straight and be happy. If I got a woman in this bitch stressing about it. Well, I'm saying she may got it.

SPEAKER_02

You don't know that she's stressing financially. She may be there.

SPEAKER_00

Is she if she I don't know, I don't know. I think that's like a little notch on my name.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I I got you. Yeah, like, no, it's good. I got you. You know, so you're not gonna ask. Four stars, huh? Yeah, right. So you're not gonna ask. Uh no. Do you think she would be pissed for you not asking? For not asking? Oh, oh god.

Love Needs Hard Times Too

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. The the the if I got to the point of living with a woman and all that, she clearly loves me by now and all that. So, you know, to not ask for help and da-da-da. I'm pretty sure it should be like, what the fuck? Like you could have just asked me. But um, nah, just from previous experiences of being not um of of not having my shit together and and being with a woman and not not doing everything that I needed to do at certain points and seeing how that shit could affect my entire life. But that shit, like, I've been to war and I done came back with PTSD. So hell no, like some some start to fuck up to where uh even a conversation, it's like I gotta ask for like that that shit just make me feel less of a man.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so s so if you speak to that moment, uh-huh um how would you uh if you can go back to that moment, yeah, would you because uh it's a it's it's hard for me to I kind of ask it because without getting like within the specifics of the situation, but would you rather be like, hey, say if you were financially well, yeah, would you rather have that or go through the moment that you went through? Like say if you finances was never an issue going forward in the rest of your life, would you rather not not have gone through that and been with that person for the rest of your life or going through that knowing who she is? Oh, absolutely that. Okay, oh, for sure, 100%.

SPEAKER_00

And all women are not the same.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, where'd that come from?

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm just saying, like, all women are not the same. Like um one person might ride with you, right? And another person won't. Like what the one person, and that that's not to say to that situation, because that girl gave me too much grace over and over. Like I said, my own mama was like, I wouldn't have lasted that long with you. Right. So, you know, shout out to her. It's like that that's that's the truth, you know, it is what it is, right? But um, but but yeah, I needed to see that though.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, but yeah, if you're in this one spot to where you you're you'll be in a situation to where you'll never have to see it, you know in it, you know, going into it that hey, she may have left because of financial struggles, but this situation, you're financially well, you're wealthy, you're stronger than you. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

No, I I feel like everybody to stay with somebody forever, we both need to see each other on multiple sides of ourselves. I need to see her when she's stressed out, I need to see her when she's happy. To me, the happiness, happy, the the the glitz and glamour of relationship when everything's going well and all that. I don't judge any relationship off of that. It's too easy to get that. Um I'm saying if everything's going well, you know what I'm saying? If I make a million dollars a month, everybody, every girl that be with probably gonna be happy. So it's like, you know, the life is always um life is still life, but right there's so much that you don't even see, you know, if everything is just perfect. Right. Yeah. So no, I need to see, I need to see what they look like, you know, when they're going through something, when they when they lose themselves. Like, what does that look like? Because if you're trying to marry somebody, you need to see like every fucking thing, or at least enough, to where you know the ups and downs of this person. Um, you know, that after you get married, whatever, you know, that's still a different ball game. But yeah, bro, like they need to they need to see that with me.

SPEAKER_02

Right. But you don't look at some of that stuff and be like, you know, I that's a tough situation to put yourself in with me. So I understand why you left.

SPEAKER_00

And well, I'm not putting straight up finances on that situation, how that went. So I'm just saying in certain areas, certain moments of that, um, it did, it did alter the relationship for sure. But there were other things that were going on that I needed to see. That has nothing to do with money.

SPEAKER_02

And you can I'm gonna equate it to this, and you can uh agree or disagree. But say if my homies next to me, three dudes, big six, eight niggas walk up to me and beat my ass. Right. Like, given the state of what's happening, I don't know if I'll be totally mad if my homeboy ran. You know what I mean? Like, because the damage they could do to him as well, I wouldn't like we both won't gotta get put through it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, and that's kind of what I think about when I hear a similar situation. Like, hey, you know, I'm going through my own stuff that that's making you return a part of it. I ain't gonna be totally mad when you leave because this is a lot to put on anybody.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree with that. That's just I'm just saying, like, I don't want to get it confused and be like, yeah, everything was about that only. And no, no, I gotcha, yeah. No, there were other things, and yeah, that was one of them though. I gotcha. I understood. Understood. I think uh all right.

Closing Thoughts And Goodbye

SPEAKER_02

Well, this is two for the culture. We love y'all. We'll be back. We'll be back. This is a totally different.