Two for the Culture

CULTURE DIFFERENCES, MANOSPHERE, BEING HONEST WITH TRIGGERS

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We talk through what it means to get better at a craft, even when it feels like you do not have one obvious talent. The conversation gets personal fast, from culture and love to the manosphere, dating standards, and how we protect our peace. 

• getting sharper at editing by mastering pace and repetition 
• loving the whole creative process while still leveling up 
• feeling like a master of none and why leadership still counts 
• carrying expectations and comparing yourself to ambitious people 
• culture, affection, and the idea that Black men love “colder” 
• what gets romanticized vs demonized about women’s behavior 
• Black women in Hollywood and who gets franchise opportunities 
• the manosphere, Kevin Samuels, truth delivered without empathy 
• why people chase clout by volunteering to get roasted 
• what “luxury” means depending on where you grew up 
• the one that got away and how hindsight changes everything 
• standards, red flags, atheism as a hard line 
• racism, bullying, and avoiding people who live in negativity 

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Welcome And Support The Show

SPEAKER_01

And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin DeBante.

SPEAKER_00

Steven Ray.

SPEAKER_01

And yes, sir, we are back. Also, don't forget to hit that like button. That's an easy way that you can support us. Facts. Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. Absolutely. And all that. I feel like we don't do that enough. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I mean, it's just such a small way and it helps. But yeah, yeah, we need to at least ask for it. You know what I mean? Facts, yeah.

Getting Better At Editing

SPEAKER_00

Or maybe like a little um uh I might have to throw something on there. Like a little like a like a little picture or a link or something like that that hovers above. Facts, like something like thing or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Do you speaking of, do you feel like you're still getting better in editing, or is it like plateau? Uh because you know what you want to do. So you it's like, for example, you know, if what I do when I play basketball, I may not do a lot, but I know how to do a floater. Right. And that floater is successful. So it's like, hey, it doesn't allow me to get it maybe my floater game may be already at a hundred max.

SPEAKER_00

Um the uh sticking to the the basketball reference, it's kind of like it depends on what I'm editing. So I'm getting better and better at editing Raco Silly shit. Or just like um, you know, even when I film for it, it's kind of like instead of doing three, four takes now, I usually go with the first one, and then I'll just like edit that and I I know what I'm doing, it's it's quicker. But it's kind of like I'm just working on my uh floater in terms of the editing world. And a movie is different, it's a whole different pace, it's not the same pace. You know, a music video is different, it's not the same pace as either of those things. So it's like I'm getting better at one thing right now, but um yeah, overall it's just it's a different, it's a different thing if I'm going a different direction.

SPEAKER_01

Which part do you love the most about like creating something? So for example, is it the the directing, is it the editing, is it the acting?

Skills, Leadership, And Work Ethic

SPEAKER_00

Just creating. Yeah. So you love it all together equally. Yeah. Um yeah, I love it all. So I can't just say like it's it would be easy for me to say um editing for social media is the best thing, but I haven't done enough movies to even say that. Okay. Right? So like I haven't made enough, I'm probably equally as cold at movies uh and creating them and writing them and all that, but I just haven't done enough of that. So I just worked more on the float floater versus like the crossover and the the da da da da da. So that's that's kind of what what that is. Um so I'm just trying to trying to um elevate on all levels or whatever, but I'm definitely focused right now on the social media shit. That shit that shit pop in a little bit right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you happy, you excited? Yeah, no, I'm definitely excited. That that shit uh it's all it's the same thing. Everything that's why I can never get away from it. Right. Is because it's like, have you ever done something or like you think you're kind of good at it or whatever, and then you might step away from it, or the or anything. And then anytime you come back to this thing, it's like something happens because you did this thing, and it's just absolute 100% reassurance, like you're like really good at this thing.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

It could be like uh communicating at the job or putting people together or leading a group or you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

It do you have like anything? Like, I feel like something comes like I'll say loosely what I think you mean. Like, if I come back to something like, say, for example, if I come back uh to selling insurance, yeah, and I know all the policies, I enjoy helping out a family, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh-huh. Is it like, bruh, I forgot how much I actually love this? Like, I'm actually passionate about it. Is that what you're referring to?

SPEAKER_00

Or not? I guess I guess passion could be a part of it, but I was just saying, like, it's very clear that you're good at this thing.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I've been that's the only weird thing about me is that I don't have like a set hard skill that I'm good at. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I'm good at understanding people, you know, but that's not I don't know if that's a set hard skill. Like, hey, he's a carpenter. You know what I mean? Like, like for you, like, hey, you you're creative, you have a lot of things, like um whether it's editing, acting, or something, those are like hard skills you can see. Uh-huh. Like, yeah, minds don't really translate into something that's like more concrete, if that makes sense. Like what I would deem to be. Now, you may see something else that I may not have considered, but yeah, I don't have like, hey, you know what? He's great at um doing algebra. You know what I mean? Like, I think I just loosely have like a uh a master of none mentality. Like you can sit me in a room and I can be somewhat competent, but I won't be um uh uh above everybody else. I'll probably be on, you know, probably the same playing field. Yeah. So and you know, I take that as a compliment. Yeah, you know, yeah, that I don't have like a well, I maybe have poor skills, but you know, in in a lot of cases, then you know, I'm pretty, you know, I can navigate through it, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

I I don't know. Knowing you, I don't think so. I I think um uh uh um from knowing you, like the the work ethic and leadership is like up there. Thank you compared to a lot of people. I I've worked with you before. I feel like what you just said is how I am in anything that ain't got shit to do with Racos Hilly or like making movies or like create anything outside of a creative uh box, I'm like mediocre as fuck, and I just don't give a fuck. Like through everything, bro. So even in being in those environments of like working at Amazon and all this shit, like I saw you like just climbing a ladder slowly and then eventually like leading people, and I've saw I saw you do that in other areas as well.

SPEAKER_01

Oh well, I appreciate that. You know, those are so I I don't really don't think that as much of a skill as as much of a duty. Like I don't like to uh lead meetings, but there's those are things that if you're going to build yourself up, it comes with it, so you might as well start now. So when you're on the way top, it's not a skill you gotta learn. Yeah, so that was when I was a skill within itself, though. Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah. But I don't think that was like a natural talent. Like it's maybe like foresight and you know, trying to prep myself for the inevitable, but it's it was just some it's more of a uh like protection for myself. It's like, hey, you don't want to fail at the top, so fail now and where you're like you're on a lower level, so it's okay. So you can be better when you're in his time, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, all those things that like, yeah, I am competitive, I am ambitious, I want for more, but I think you can attribute that to a lot of people too. Like I I I know you can't attribute to everybody, um, but I, you know, maybe I'm in a space or my like my my mother's a good example of like she's very ambitious, and I see what her and her husband does, and I'm like, gosh, I feel late. I know I'm lazy compared to them. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So it's like I'm looking at other people and trying to aspire to be at that type of level. Uh-huh. And so I know I got so much more to climb. And maybe that's an unfair like comparison. I should try to compare myself to, but that's what I see. And that's what I aspire to be.

Expectations And Self Comparison

SPEAKER_00

There's uh always uh it's always a good thing to see. I mean, in anything in life, there's always better or a higher level of anything ever. So I mean, that that I don't think that's bad to to to to at least aspire to be greater than whatever level you know people are at um at the moment, for sure. You mentioned something about algebra. Yeah, like how oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Well, uh I also want to add on before um keep that thought because it sounded like it was gonna be good. Um that also there's an expectation too. So what is expected of you? Right. So there is there can be a healthy version somewhere, I don't know, but like I have an expectation for me to do well. That's what a lot of people think I should do. So I carry that weight with me. And it's probably not well, it's I think I probably got a healthy relationship compared to what you know, like an Asian student may have. You're supposed to go to Harvard. You know what I mean? I didn't have that heavy of an expectation, but you know, like, hey, you're supposed to, you know what I mean? Like, you're supposed to at least I just expect it.

SPEAKER_00

I I just like see I just see on the other side of this podcast some Asian dude with straight Fs just looking at this whole like it's feeling bad as fuck.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, right, but you know, let my people down. That's too funny. But I'm obviously speaking generally when you you know you hear about different stories.

SPEAKER_00

You you said you said racist. Yeah, I don't think that's even racist. You're not putting anything down, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I mean, in this, like, hey, is is it racist if you say black people dance well? Yeah, I was just about to say, like, jump higher. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. It's like, all right, you you get you're giving the positive. Hey, black people are known to be the best singers. Okay, is that racist? Maybe. Yeah, I do have something crazy. All right, yeah, yeah. But my thing was about expectation. Who cares? Next, what you got?

When Love Feels Cold

SPEAKER_00

So somebody said this to me, and they probably they they might watch it or whatever, but I just thought it was such a deep conversation. So it's this uh uh uh uh um yeah, it's this girl I know. And basically, she was like first, first I got offended. As soon as like the as soon as like the words came out, I got offended. And then eventually I started listening and shit, and I was like, oh fuck, it might be some truth to this shit. She first thing she says, yeah, I don't I don't like black guys. So I'm just like weird. No, somebody uh I I heard say this. Okay, okay, but it wasn't in person, it wasn't in person, though. Okay, so somebody said, I don't like black guys. And um uh uh uh uh and then they followed it with you know um that's a different type of love that I don't like. They said that black men are just really cold compared to what she's used to, and what she's used to is a a Latin, like Spanish culture. And in that culture, usually uh from what we see online and stuff, it's like oh poppy, it's like so lovable, it's like love, like it's clear as fuck, right? And this one I started to think deeper, like after she said it, she she kept talking. And but that's where she comes from, right? So that's all she's seen her whole life. And she said she doesn't like black guys because the love is colder, the love is like way colder, and um, even when it comes to like being extremely passionate about that woman and all that, it's not there, and it's it's not even comparable to what it would be in her own culture. And then I thought about it and I was like, damn, um, you know, it's kind of crazy because when I think in my mind about the type of relationship that I want, um it's all in my mind, when I when it play, like like I said, when when I'm in here and it's just the four walls and the shit gets silent, or maybe it's like, you know, the emotions go up and down for everybody, right? So on them days where you you know I'm just chilling or just in my own head or in my thoughts or whatever, and it would be nice to have a companion in my head, I visualize what that could be like. And it's like it's full of love. It's like, oh, what's up, baby? I walk, you know, smacking on the ass while I grab a cup of coffee or you know, all this. But if I were to compare it to the reality of me being in relationships, it ain't always as that it ain't it ain't a hundred percent like it is in my head. And when she said that, I was like, damn. Like one, damn, I don't think we could be together because you said you don't like me together. She was fine too, huh? Oh yeah, oh god. But um two I was like, fuck. And then I was trying to like say things like I just said, but also realizing like, oh damn, I definitely could have been better. But and and and I I I I I mean, shout out to my mom and my dad, but the you know, I I would want more the feeling of love in my relationship than I have seen growing up. And then I try to like counter the shit to her, and I was like, I've been I kind of want more than what I seen, but my dad white though. So like maybe just some people or some relationships or some some some partnerships just aren't like others, it don't gotta be like a black thing. And then she said, Yeah, but I mean, just think about she said something to make me think about my mom.

SPEAKER_01

So she's having a conversation with you? Yeah, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So she she said something. I was like, I was like, who is I thought I'm thinking it's the Instagram reel and she's talking? Nah. And then I was like, hold on, she this is AI? Hold on, what's happening?

SPEAKER_00

Uh nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And then she said, um, something to make me think about my mom. And then she was like, Yeah, but like, I I don't know. Um, you know, like I always feel like whoever your mom is, that's who you are, you know. And I thought about mom, and I was like, damn, my mom really kind of cold when it comes to like, you know, shit. My dad would used to give her stuff, and it just been like, why? Like, she don't really want it for real. She don't care. And I was like, damn, was that passed down to me? Like, damn, is that coming from that situation? Like that old time.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think that you're a cold person.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm not, I'm not. What I'm saying is that still, even in that situation, some things that I have done was compared to the conversation, and she was right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, we all can find instances where we didn't handle things the best, and we can come off cold. I'm sure she probably does that as well. I because I'm saying I'm saying I know you I know you, uh, and that's not a word uh I would uh uh uh define you with.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, no, no, no, no. So I'm I'm saying I'm saying that she was saying some things, there are some instances where I did kind of show that, but I was still uh um basically like she was saying like she wouldn't date black guys, but she would date me.

SPEAKER_01

You get what I'm saying? Okay, so my question is what are Spanish people Spanish men doing differently, and how are they handling um say if they you you put them in your shoes? How would they have handled it differently?

SPEAKER_00

I I don't know. I I just like I mean brought that up to the situation because I thought about it and I was like, damn, um you know it's is is when I think about those situations or those um um relationships or just naturally just being a consumer on the internet and you know our environment is clearly like mostly black or whatever. So, you know, the growing up and dating and all that shit, it's it's kind of like within that circle. But when I do see things on the internet and all that about the differences in culture, there are a lot of men that I see that would love to get with a Spanish woman, and 90% of the stuff that I saw was because of the love and shit that's spewing from this woman. And I'm like, damn, is it true that like it's not balanced for real? Like in the cultures, like, do you see that? I was just I was just asking. I I just don't hear that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I don't hear the opposite from but we're in the culture.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying somebody outside of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm probably I'm sure there's a little bit of that, but I still feel like I would hear it more.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? I don't think I would ever hear that unless it's somebody that's not black.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I don't know. Like, I I just don't I don't hear it on the streets either. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. So I don't I don't see that a lot of white women are chasing Hispanic men. You know what I mean? I mean, I was saying more for like well, and I'm just saying what you're saying in terms of like, hey, uh Latin men handle it differently, they're more loving and caring. I don't see a lot of women chasing Latin men. I just you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I so there's something that black men are doing right because I feel like I feel like we get dated more outside of our culture than anybody else. Um yeah, so so there's something that we're handling, it's just the way she in particular um likes something to be handled that black men maybe don't handle the best or have uh you know the culture for to you know to get the care that she needs. Um maybe it was a personal thing.

SPEAKER_00

I just thought when when she said that, it did make me think about the situations, uh the different situations that I visually have seen even growing up versus the very few that I have seen of this the Spanish culture, like the household, like after 10, 15, 20 years of marriage. It it's it's a hundred percent a different vibe.

SPEAKER_01

Have you ever asked your parents what made what what did they love about each other? No, yeah, because they're so polar opposite, like at least like my mom and dad are polar opposite, but they they got together so young. Uh-huh. And you know what I mean? That it makes sense because of whatever, you know, that but not the attitude, it'll be it'll be extremely weird if they was ever get together because they're so entirely different. Yeah, your parents are even more. I mean, they're just like polar opposites from each other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this this is a total fact. Yeah, yeah. I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know. I don't get it. Shout out to them. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, thankfully they made me and my sister. Right, right. It's a very confusing um thing to think about sometimes. It's so opposite. Like, yeah, I call my dad was like, hey June, what's going on? Yeah, I call my mom. Shame this motherfucking nigga just tried to run me over him. I did it. Yeah. It's totally different. I don't know. I really don't know. So um I don't know, man. No, uh the yeah opposites attract, I guess. I don't know what the fuck my opposite would be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I I think that's just a phrase, if you ask me.

SPEAKER_00

Opposites attract? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You sure?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean I think so now. I think I think I used to think that I would just be with some dark-skinned woman.

SPEAKER_01

Cause you just said like that you were just talking about like, hey, that girl was in God. She ain't for me. That's completely opposite of what you got going. We have to have similarities. Or how can this really work for real? If you're completely separate, like if I'm a Christian, you're an atheist, this ain't gonna work.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm thinking more so. Uh I one thing I do kind of agree with is the um the personality thing. Yeah, I don't want anybody that's like as chill as me. I need like a bubbly girl or something. I don't think I I want somebody who's just like a tomboy. No. Okay. Yeah. I don't think I don't think I'd nah. I don't think it'd work out. I think it'd be anything would be cool at first, but like after like maybe a long a longer time with this person, I don't see that uh I don't see that working. Why? The the opposites of the personality.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? I like laughing uh sometimes at um that shit. I I don't know. She can be funny. Yeah, she can be funny, yeah. Like I'm funny sometimes, but like it's just the difference of priority. Like I'm a chill, super chill person, and then my my personality hits like rises. Is that me?

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And

SPEAKER_01

And we are back. Technical difficult difficulties. That's completely my bad. Thanks. All right. And I have no idea where we left off at.

SPEAKER_00

Well, just to sum it up, um, I just brought up uh I was just thinking about it and wondering if it's like truly a thing of um the the the the the difference between black culture and the the um the the the Spanish culture I got you relationships and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

I got you. Do you do you have a favorite culture? Black? Okay. What the fuck else I'm gonna say? Well if you're choosing and well, I was really thinking outside of your own uh favorite?

SPEAKER_00

The closest would be Spanish, just because it's the I would think it's the Caribbean culture, maybe? To me, that's just black. Oh, okay. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah. It's a different version of the black. Yeah, yeah. You got American black.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and that's different than Caribbean culture. I don't know. I'm not sure. So it doesn't sound like you're too much of a fan. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. I've I've met some very cool people, but um I I haven't ever like dove all the way into that. So I I don't have a lot of information about it, but it's uh from what I hear, it's pretty strict.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I got you. Would you date an Asian? Asian? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think if I did, she would she would have some type of um uh uh uh like cultural black tour.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like she she she works at the uh Nelson in the hood. What do you mean? What do you what do you mean to be like? I said she works no, I'm just saying like she has some type of she understands black culture. Yeah, that's I mean, but they they they be the most Asian for real, no? Yeah, well I'm just saying in terms of like understanding. She no, she has to be uh that's what I'm being Asian. No, I'm saying for you. Oh like she has to not only understand uh black culture, she has to be a part of it. Like that's her swi her style. Yeah, sweaty. She listens to Megastallion type shit. Yeah, she doesn't got to do, yeah, but like yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But you see who I'm building. Something like that. Yeah, who's who's your um favorite?

SPEAKER_01

Who's my favorite? Who's your favorite outside of the city? Irish chedd ass. Uh no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's too funny. I love Swedish culture. No, but uh uh I yeah, I'm probably with you on um Latin culture. I think it's the closest, yeah, more most relatable.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. Yeah, I think everything else is like a big jump.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Is it is there is there something that you like about Latin culture that uh in terms of Latin feminality that you wish um black feminality would take away from?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I can't fully say that. It's just different. Okay. Yeah, it's definitely different. I like the poppy thing though. Okay. That makes me milk. Okay, I got you. I'll get them the poppy thing. Yeah, so because who else is gonna say that for real? Well, I mean, so I mean, they might, but like the yeah, the poppy thing, they they kind of got that shit on lock. Like it's it sounds like it comes from the the the Spanish culture.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think they uh romanticize the idea of like a toxic uh Latin woman? What? What would you think I was gonna say? Um I don't know. Okay, yeah, like they romanticize like the toxic like woman that will that loves you passionately, that will kill you. You know what I mean? You talking about men? Like, like just in general, like hey, like when you see like a toxic Latin woman, it's like kind of romantic, like I love that she is crazy about me, that she'll go, you know what I mean? That she'll run my ass over out of love. You know what I mean? Do you feel do you see I'm sure you see it, yeah, but do you think that's you know what I mean? I feel like it's romanticized when Latin women do it, but it's um demonized when a black woman has that same type of you know what I mean, connotation to it. Um you see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

I I I I sort of. Sort of. I I think they um yeah, they do they do somehow have like a good bad rep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like the um Latin women's PR team is like working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, this is a beautiful look at the feminine woman. She loves her man that she will cut his penis off. Yeah, right. But yeah, yeah, yeah. The the the aggressive black woman will beat his man's her man's ass.

Toxic Romance And Black Women

SPEAKER_00

First of all, yeah, that sucks. Yeah, yeah. Black women be like they be fucked off in a lot of situations. Right. Yeah, I saw something about actors and shit, and how you know how like actors climb in the industry and stuff like that. And then um they didn't fully get into it, but it it was just like a notion or like a little nudge of like the black woman in Hollywood and how long that shit fucking takes to like get just res I wouldn't fully say respect, but I would say notice. Yeah. Not even like they have a Marvel role, you know what I'm saying, or or or uh what's it called, franchise role and stuff like that. Like I feel like Viola Davis has been in the game since for fucking ever. But if what's her name, Meryl Street? Yeah, if she drops some, I feel like it would go more. Not in my opinion, in terms of like, yeah, let's go this. Not in my opinion, but I'm saying like that's gonna sell more or it might be pushed more than the same film with Viola Davis. And she didn't be, I don't even know how many movies that woman been in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm sure you're right. Yeah, but you know, but also those are two legends, you know, and I don't in the big of the action scene as you are, so you know, I'm more familiar with Viola Davis, but I know you know in Male Sheep, she's the you know, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, she's like, you know, on the Mount Rushmore, I'm sure, in terms of film, as as I hear it, you know. Facts, but I of course I'm not familiar with her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I'm not too too too familiar with like a bunch of shit, but that that is a thing. That definitely is a thing. It's it's really I was thinking about Taraji, Taraji been in the game for I don't know how how long how many movies she done did as well. And it's sort of the same thing. I think I think it was her actually, saying that she didn't have a franchise role. Yeah, I think it was her. She was talking about her and baby boy and like uh that I guess she she well, I don't want to put words in her mouth, but she basically doesn't have like a big, big franchise role type thing. It almost seemed like there was a cap there. Or I'm trying to pick my words better than how it's sounding. But um yeah, I do see when I think about it, I I don't really see like black women at the like forefront of certain things. Um, the way Hollywood moves anyway.

The Manosphere And Kevin Samuels

SPEAKER_01

Um it's somewhat um adjacent to what we're talking about, because we're talking about like femininity and toxic behavior. Um, but my question to you is I don't think I ever got your opinion on what do you feel about the red pill community as a whole. Uh shit. What's what's over do you do you are you a partaker in the red pill community? Like, what does it mean to be red pill? Um that's uh I can try to say it as I describe it, but it'll probably be wrong. Um so um I think I can look it up in instead of saying red pill, because like um is that comes from Matrix Blue Pill, Red Pill, let's say manosphere is really the actually kind of where where I'm trying to land.

SPEAKER_00

What is what is the manosphere? The new work of online forums and blogs promoting anti-feminist, misogynistic, and male supremacist ideologies. So like yeah, that's like the that podcast with the two two guys, you know what I'm talking about? Fresh and fit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Essentially, man, man, man, man, man. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, what do I feel about that?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, well, just like the overall, like that Kevin Samuels aligns with that, the manosphere. Uh-huh. Um, fresh and fit, for sure. Those are the ones that come to mind. I think it's hard to answer the question.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I feel like the it's hard to just Did you enjoy Kevin Samuels' work? I thought it was funny. I thought. I thought he was telling the truth a lot of the clips that I saw. Okay. He was like, I can't say he was lying, you know, about a lot of the clips that I saw. I think it was very harsh and very um uh it wasn't empathetic at all. It was very cold, very um the white or black, yes or no. You know what I'm saying? So, like, are you fat? Oh my god. How much do you weigh? Right. Just 250. How tall are you? Five two, you're fat. Like he would he would do shit like that. But um, yeah. Uh um that shit, that shit was kind of that shit was funny.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, and I and I'm gonna um like we and I feel like um I can speak for both of us is that hey, we could understand how somebody is perceived, yeah. And but we can understand that they may have uh good good points as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, hey, yeah, he may be crazy, and I may not like him as a whole. Um just speaking generally, not to uh chemicalize rest in peace. Um, but I can understand, like, hey, that is a good valid point. Not everything else I may be able to disagree with, but that makes sense. Um, and that's kind of you know what we see in how I see it in the manosphere is like, hey, there are valid grievances, but you know what I mean, to completely disrespect somebody, it doesn't need to be taken there. Like for yeah, like for what a lot of Kevin Samuels did was like there'll be a lot of women that being like, hey, what type of man do you want? And what type of woman are you? And then you see you see where what you're asking for, you're not even you know, you're you're on a different playing field for whatever reason. And a a lot of what you're asking for, you're dealing, there's a bigger pool of women that have a higher chance of getting that man than what you do. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and that is real. I wonder why even engage with some of those instances. You know this nigga. You you know how he is, why even be on the call with this man? Um, I think there's clout uh associated with it. To me, it's kind of like uh not to take away from him disrespecting people, but I also do think on the other side of the coin, it's like why are you on here? You know he be you know the type of stuff that he says, like why are you even on this call?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's like saying, why go on Jerry Springer just to let your co just to let you know you you out yourself that you're a transgender woman? You know what I mean? Like, why do that? Why can't you just bring in bring the person that you're dating and let them know that you're transgender? Why do you have to go on Jerry Springer to reveal it? You know what I mean? Like that makes no sense, but it's obviously for clout reasons. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's for yeah, yeah, exactly. So why do people do things it may not make sense to you, knowing what you're probably going to get, but it may make sense to them? All right, yeah, yeah. Maybe so.

Why People Volunteer For Humiliation

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but yeah, yeah. That's only when I think about it when I take a step back and zoom out a little bit, which is like a lot of people definitely have those those instances, or even like the girls on the the little podcast thing. Or maybe that's maybe that was the first decision. Just like, yeah, I'm gonna just go on here for clout reasons, maybe. Yeah, it's just like if you've seen some of these clips of these niggas, why are you why are you on there?

SPEAKER_01

And and that's they won't be the same people, yeah. And that's one reason, but you may feel like you have a different point of view that Kevin Seven is having considered too. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, well, I'm gonna prove it wrong, and this is my reason. But yours really kind of aligned to what everybody else is saying. Yeah, and you know, and so when people come in that they're you know, that he's give asking for dress sizes and what do you rate yourself, and you know what I mean? Yeah, he's he's he's not doing it to really help her, he's doing it for the overall community. Yeah, like, hey, let me show you how a lot of women think so this can you this is one a teachable moment for everybody. Hey, let's live in reality. And then he he'll he'll shame her and give some type of guidance on why how she handled it or what was done was wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Facts. Yeah, I don't know why I I don't I don't know. I I just wouldn't sign up her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what yeah, I mean yeah, take take me out of it. Yeah, but no, I'm saying like yeah, but maybe, but why do people go on the could have been a would have been records to do.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just saying, like, what is different you're really gonna get joked on for real. That's different. So you're really you're real, it's really gonna in uh small instances come out in your favor because now you're gonna be the the the uh slow kid that you know drilled all over itself on could have been records. That's that's different.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't I don't they just dropped one tonight too. But uh no, I I I can't fully agree with that one.

SPEAKER_01

But but okay, like it's but you don't write track. I get what you're saying. I don't I don't watch it at all. Yeah, so I don't know if people made it out are now famous. That's that was because that's not a real thing, right? Or does he actually sign them to do something?

SPEAKER_00

It's all like it's fake, but it's it's so viral that it's it's like a bit of it is real now. So so so who is who came out of it on top?

SPEAKER_01

The ugliest rapper alive one one time. Who's that? The ugliest rapper alive. So is is that is that his rapper name? That's what Drewski gave him. Yeah, and is he making music? Now, uh he could have. I mean, exactly. So I'm saying, like, so that's not a true success story. He could have, though. Yeah, yeah. He could be successful. Facts. Yeah, okay. That's good. You can say that about anybody or could have been records. That's that's his fault. I'm just saying, I'm just trying to see a success story to where I mean he might be successful because I heard he got new teeth on it. What I'm saying is why go in there knowing that the success ratio is so small that you're really just gonna be the butt of somebody's joke at the end of the day, but people still go on there. Why? It doesn't actually make no sense because you're just giving the audience entertainment and Drewski's gonna make fun of you. That makes no sense because it doesn't help you at all. I don't and you don't have a specific instance to where it made somebody money, or or it if it was positive light to where they was able to spin it in some type of success, it looks like it's just really gonna hurt. I can't agree with that one.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm just not for Drewski, everything else?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, not for Drewski in particular. I'm talking about the people who are. Okay, so what happens at the end of it? So what is the typical scenario when they get on there? How do they win? How do they win? Yeah, what what is the win in case scenario for them? Uh uh at the end of the season or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Whatever. I don't know. I don't watch it. So he has auditions, it's kind of set up like American Idol. So he got auditions, uh, each city, whatever, and then he brings them to a big house. Everybody's under one house. Uh usually he picks the perfect people for things to go very, very wrong. And it's very, very entertaining, but yet there's one winner at the end of it, and they usually get like$50 or$100,000.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. So I didn't know this was a whole thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's fake, but like it's a small cost kind of real analysis, but they win something. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00

I thought he was just going to get millions and millions of views. Like you can get on there and I don't know, you could pop off one of these clips.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You sound like if you're the producer, what you're selling to somebody, like, hey, you can have the chance to win an opportunity of a lifetime. But the uh the uh the the situation is clear is that nobody's has did that yet, so it's most likely it's not going to happen. That in most case scenarios, like most in most cases, the person who wins the lottery ends up broke. I mean, yeah, they so I'm just saying this is the actual reality, is ain't shit gonna really come from it for real, and you're gonna be the butt of somebody's joke, and you're gonna be always on that drifty stuff, whether you and you're trying to be in the interview. Hey, you was the the nigga with the missing teeth. You know what I mean? You could have everything together, you still gonna be that when you try to climb up the ladder. So it just it seems like a small short-term benefit.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, that's with any risk ever.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. And I'm saying that don't try out for the NBA.

SPEAKER_00

Ain't nobody gonna.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're like, why is Kev, why are you doing this for the Kevin Samuel stuff? Yeah, it may not make sense to you because that stuff doesn't make sense to me, but people are gonna do it anyhow. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, uh, yeah, I feel like But you it's not like the reason why you're defending you love that's the audition crap, whatever. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Uh uh the the Kevin Samuels shit was very um um uh uh uh uh Well, I was talking about like the Drewski joint. I know I'm saying like both of them are very engaging the content. Drewski's is like for fun, like this is clearly fake. Right. So it's like if you want to have fun and just go on there and just act for whatever, like it's all fake. But Kevin Samuels, that shit is all real, like, or at least from what I know of it. It's all real. It's this is like he's he's actually hurting people's feelings and shit. Like, I don't know. It's a difference.

SPEAKER_01

And it so Drewski, the ones I've seen them all in the house is all women. He has another show called Could've Been Love. Okay. Okay. And so this other uh the the American artist stuff is it what is what show is it? Could've been records. Okay, and that's all and they in their own house together.

SPEAKER_00

After he does auditions for every everywhere, uh-huh, then he'll uh bring everybody in a woman.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and have and have you seen the house, them together? Yeah, that sounds like an utter mess. Yes, because you're getting like stupidest people in the world all the time. Amazing TV.

SPEAKER_02

Amazing TV.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's why he gets the big bucks.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I got you. Well, I'm not mad at it. That's hilarious, though. That shit is too funny.

SPEAKER_00

It's like the worst of everybody. There's not one rapper in there where you'll well, I don't, I mean, I I don't know. I I actually haven't heard their music for real. This is all like strictly for entertainment. The the the the person the the person who won the could have been love was like a very strong arm, like very masculine stud. Like this shit is perfect.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's it seems like a mess. Uh my gosh. It's perfect. Yeah, if you it seems like if you want to get away from the world, that's a good way to do it. Uh what? Like, just like, hey, I need a distraction from everyday life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What's it called? Uh I I forgot the name of it, but um just just just just uh rot rotten a brain rot? Yes, brain rot. I don't know. Yeah, but but whatever that that is, like something that ain't don't mean shit, and uh it's really like not um beneficial to watch in any form of your life other than probably just like laughing at this thing. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that shit's too fucking funny.

Hood Luxury And Random Questions

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't even know how much time we we spent on that message. We got 20 more minutes. 20 more minutes? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um what's some hood people consider luxury that rich people wouldn't even notice? Um you have something in mind? What's something that hood people consider like luxury? Um I wouldn't even notice.

SPEAKER_01

Like I wouldn't even notice a change. Yeah, I think that uh hood people going out of town considered luxury.

SPEAKER_00

I'm that's too funny. No, that's that's that's perfect. Oh okay, yeah, yeah. Right. What a lot of them say like you going on vacation? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like your birthday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Brokey. Like what?

SPEAKER_01

Like I have relatives that like think that going to Atlanta is something. I'm not. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's yeah, I I feel that. Um, it's another random uh uh uh uh question. What's the wildest excuse you ever gave for being late?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, wildest excuse? Um I I I don't think I've ever really kind of made an excuse on why I'm late for real. Really? I had uh well, I mean, the wildest excuse was like I kinda like uh lost my keys or something. Like it was something silly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um I don't remember an excuse for being late, but I do remember an excuse. This is college, and you know this story. I was at I was at it was in the same apartment complex that we were staying in, and I went to this girl's house, and then I thought I was in the same complex um and I went over to this girl's house and uh uh I thought that she was like super cool or whatever, but I realized like we don't really intellectually like mesh. You know what I'm saying? Like I can't like sit there and do nothing with this person, if that makes sense. Like, you know, the uh the the the the mind frame or the cadence. Right, right. I know what you mean. So, you know, and then she she invited me over and all that, and I was thinking she wanted to do something. So it just just step one was um uh it just looked like we were about to do something. And then she was like, Oh, but I'm on my period. So like, no, I can't, I can't do anything. And I was like, oh, okay. So now I already realized like I can't even sit with you. And then you just told me that, and I just came over here. And I was like, oh fuck, I don't have like any excuse but to be like a fuck nigga for real. And leave this. So I texted Codero. I texted one of my homies, and he was at the career. She had to have known this was a lie. I texted him and told him, Hey, can you I said I said, hey, can you can you call me and say the house burning down? You can see our apartment from where we was at. That's just the girl's place.

SPEAKER_01

What was her name? Uh I'm just talking shit.

SPEAKER_00

I just represent it. But you can literally look outside her window and see our our apartment. That's hilarious. And call like stay. You stay, you left the fucking uh the eye on like this shit about to burn down, this shit on fire. I was like, I gotta go, like the apartment on fire. The apartment on fire, I gotta go. She's like, oh really? Really? Yeah, it's on fire. Like, I got I gotta go. Yeah, and I left. But um I knew she ain't bleed. That shit.

SPEAKER_01

Did you ever speak to her again? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, sometime after that. But um, yeah, it wasn't like a disaster. Who was that one that got away from you? Uh well, uh huh.

SPEAKER_01

I just really wanted to shock shock you with a random ass question like that.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, the one that got away.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. What was her name?

SPEAKER_00

Where'd she live? I got one. I got one from um, yeah, that was in college that I I was just I I was too in my head, I wasn't confident at all. Is she married now? I don't know. I saw her at the liquor store um in Memphis about a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I got you. Yep. It was like a side profile shot, and I'm like, that's and I, you know, she was with a she was with a gato. Oh yeah, so I I I wasn't gonna say hey or nothing. It won't get shot. Automatically get shot. Oh, right, all right, because we're in Memphis. Yeah, it did lose. Uh nah, nah. Um, yeah, but that yeah. Did you ever feel like uh there was somebody that got away? Yeah, I was never gonna give away though, but like, yeah, in terms of I did think that.

The One That Got Away

SPEAKER_01

Um and there's so I'll say like, hey, I should have actually dived deeper into like getting to know certain people. I would say, but I didn't know them enough to like at the time, or even now I don't know them enough to where it would have truly fit, but generally who they are now, like I, you know, I really probably should have uh invested more time into you at the moment. Um but there was one that I was like, dang, she's actually was a great person that would have been right for me, yada yada. And then I saw how she looks and I'm like, you know, dang, yeah, I'm cool. I'm cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know. I think uh um yeah, some something like that is happening. But usually I don't know now, at least like this year, girls that I thought like I could like speak to again, or like, damn, I wish this, this, or that, you know, could have went better. Maybe something could have happened. Every single one of them is just kind of like showing now, like I I wouldn't have lasted with this person. Right, right. Yeah. I thought I had some people. I we even talked about something, I think, on other podcasts. It's like, you know, damn, like I felt bad about this, and we could have been maybe something, and uh no. Like how how things played out is just different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I be feeling like maybe I do be having higher standards than what I be thinking I have in my head.

SPEAKER_00

Uh what you mean?

Standards, Red Flags, Hard Lines

SPEAKER_01

Like in my head, I'd be like, man, I just want loyalty, respect, you know what I mean? Yada yada. But then I'd be like, I feel like if my standards were so low, why am I not in a relationship? You know, why am I not married? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, I I probably do probably have do you don't think like that at all? Or now that I've said it, now does it uh higher standards? Yeah, like then what you think you have.

SPEAKER_00

Um I mean Yeah, I mean the is is for me like feeling like I want to be with the person takes hold about 80% of the mindset of even getting with somebody. So it's like before I even get to standards and shit, like I actually really gotta want to be with you type thing. And there I guess standards is a part of that. Um yeah, I guess standards is a part of that, but yeah, that it would just take a lot for me to get with somebody. So I could say that I do have I don't know if it's like high standards though. It's just kind of like a can I see myself being with you. There's a lot that goes into those words, but it's just like a feeling versus your cultural background, your family background, your how you think in general, how you react to certain things, how you it's like an overall sense of like who this person is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I don't get the sense that how they react to something is the reason why you're not gonna be in a relationship with them. Yes, it can. I'm just saying I've not seen you handle it that way.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's for me to get to this point, I'll the other relationships got me here.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so I'm saying, like, in what situation could they I mean, obviously, without it being extreme, but what uh situation be like, hey, I don't like that behavior and this ain't gonna work.

SPEAKER_00

It's just red flags. I I wouldn't even get to that conversation. Okay. Yeah, like I would we I wouldn't even get to the point of um almost getting with the girl, you know, to even have that conversation. Yeah, like if I'm on up the the the the the phone with you and then every time you drink wine, you you there's some story about you beating a bitch up and you you're happy about it. It's just like uh it's just like small little things. That was just one uh uh a random thought, but I'm like it could be anything. It could be like how this old woman came by, you'd be like, that bitch. Like that shit would just hit a red flag for me to where I naturally would just start backing off. So I wouldn't even get to the point of um getting close to even being with somebody.

SPEAKER_01

And um I'm a so that what you're saying reminds me of um something I think about, and I want you to see if you agree with me about yourself, is that I have trouble telling, you know, giving constructive criticism to somebody that I am like not seriously in love with yet, or just dating. Like if if there's behavior at the dinner table, like we're we're on date number three, there's behavior at the dinner table. I have trouble saying, hey, I don't like that thing that you just did.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? Like super new, I ain't gonna say nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I know that's bothering me. You know what I mean? Yeah, like like when I do my um when I'm doing my side-by-sides when I'm teaching somebody something new, I tell you like one of the hardest things um and the job for me is selling the rejection. Like, hey, you know, going back and forth and rehashing. And that's what um, and I can correlate that into my personal relationship. It's like, hey, me, you know, hey, telling you the thing, the the negative thing that I don't appreciate or I don't like is it's very tough to do, and I don't have that delicate balance yet. You know what I mean? To whereas like I'm trying to say this thing that softens the blow, right? But it's just not penetrating how I like. Right. Like you're more crushed than I would like you to be. I want you to be like, hey, you know, your dang, your fart stink, but I'm not gonna be like, you know what I mean? I'm not gonna take that a notch from your belt.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I I if it like I said, if it's new, then I'm nine times out of ten, I'm not gonna say nothing. It's just more like a mental thought, like, oh, okay, you just did this one thing at the table. I don't really fuck with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but what if it's a hard line for you? A hard line? Yeah. Um like say, for example, like hey.

SPEAKER_00

Probably wouldn't even have got to the dentist.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So for example, say, like, could you date an atheist? No, yeah, it's over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if she says that at the table, you'll be like, hey, we can't we can't make this work. Are you just you know, just gonna ghost her afterwards?

SPEAKER_00

Or I ain't gonna just ghost, but um, yeah, oh well, I don't know. Uh I'm not like a ghoster nowadays. I was before, but like, yeah, that the i i if it needed to be addressed, it would. If she hits me up, like, hey, what happened? I'm like, nigga, you said this. I said I don't believe in God. Okay. What's the problem with that? It's that's just not, you know, my type of thing. You know. What do you mean? I believe in God. I read the Bible every day. It's like I'll feel it's it's just it's just weird vibes now.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, why do you believe in him? Uh I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Nah, I but yeah, I feel you though.

SPEAKER_00

Like I told you when I was at the the the thing, the uh uh the coffee shop, and then the girls was next to me, and she was like, Yeah, you know, I used to be in gothic parties and all this. Yeah, and it just for some reason I just felt just like my Bible glowing in my backpack for something. I was just like, I don't know, man. I don't know. Well if she was like, All right, you want to go somewhere, real quick? She she said that she was gonna go up the street to this place. Did she invite you? She didn't invite me, but like it was inviting ish. Like I could have said, oh, yeah, I'll go. I could I probably could have. Okay. I probably could have said, like, yeah, I'll go with you and all this.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but what if she was super bad? You still wouldn't have gone. Uh she said she's an atheist.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm saying the goth party. Uh whatever. No. Yeah, I'm down for uh uh a lot of uh spontaneous things.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, I'm not saying go to the goth party, I'm just saying put that woman that you were just talking to, and now she's a 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. She's a 10 out of 10. She went to this goth party.

SPEAKER_01

No, she no, I'm saying everything that happened that night with you and the her exchange, you say you weren't interested. Yeah. I'm saying now she's put her it and now she's a 10 out of 10. She's replaced to whatever human you just saw, and now she's a smoking hot lady. Uh-huh. And is that still like a no for you? Would you or or you would have gone up the street? Why don't you believe me, guys?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk to me about it.

SPEAKER_00

Um no. 10 out of 10, that shit. That shit ain't gonna work. Nah, I'll feel weird. I'll feel weird. Like if she told me, it's gonna be on my mind. That's that's gonna be at the top of the list on my mind. And I'm like, damn, if it got to the point, if like we were feeling each other or something, and she wanted to come over, I'm like, damn, like I know this ain't going nowhere. You know.

Racism Triggers And Staying Positive

SPEAKER_01

Is there a triggering discussion that you can't have because you know it's gonna piss you off? For example, like if some people hear that, you know, like they're a Donald Trump supporter. And how that pisses people off to hear. Uh-huh. Is there something like that for you? Pisses me off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like it would, it would. Uh the only thing not much pisses me out. It just like puts it, it makes me mentally compart compartmentalize you like out of my brain. But even going online and seeing this Spanish girl, you seen that? She just kept saying the N-word over and over. She was a police officer from Texas. So it's this uh uh Hispanic woman, she's a police officer from Texas, and she posted uh back to back to back on her close friends, and somebody recorded it. And she was just basically like just uh calling black people the N-word and saying, like, you know, when she gets a call and it's a black person, like she'll do basically do what she can to get them in jail, saying uh she fucking hate N-words, and uh she kept saying it over and over. Like that shit ah, like that shit makes me feel weird. Yeah, like that that would make me feel way more of a way than versus somebody saying like they was a Trump sport.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so like if I heard her saying a joke to somebody or some shit, that I couldn't fuck with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that there's something about you know us, you know, we're we're gonna naturally repel to oppression. And that's you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so so to when we when you hear it, it's definitely triggering it's like, hey, you're intentionally locking us up because of our skin, essentially, yeah. Our culture, what you know what I mean? That that it's intentional that you're gonna find something wrong, you're gonna make it up. That's one, you're you're extremely dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad she posted that on her. She's put I'm glad she posted that. Yeah, like yeah, that was a very dumb, and I'm glad she did it. She's famous for that shit now. Yeah, yeah. And you know, that's one less person you gotta worry about in the fourth. So I'm glad she snitched on herself like that. But yeah, that would, that would, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think that. I think that that would be well, yeah. That that that's extreme. That's clearly on the extreme side, right? Right. But uh somebody bullying somebody else or or talking down to somebody. I feel you. I can't I can't fuck with that. Yeah, yeah. That's an extreme character flaw.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Like you talking down on somebody to lift you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't fuck with that. Yeah, yeah. Um yeah, and we did we did it? Uh I think we did, basically. Yeah, pretty much. You're right. Yeah, what was you gonna say there? Um, I just like somebody. I I don't particularly enjoy people who are going to they're already talking about how their day is negative. Like, like, hey, let me tell you about my day, and every day is something, it's a complaint, it's a negative. It's just like, dude, like, can you find some joy in life? Because I can already tell your mindset, like you're probably depressed. Facts. Yeah, yeah. If if you if your days are just not going well, there's always something wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That is a that is that is huge for me. Like, as you could probably tell from knowing, it's just like every day I try to think more positive and put my mind in a certain place, put myself in environments that's like a certain place. I've been working so long to get rid of this pessimistic way of living, of how I used to live. Like, man, this shit sucked, bro. This shit was like I grew up feeling that way, and hearing people around me having bad days, and I don't know, just only seeing like bad shit. Or just like it's normal to talk about, like you can bond with people in certain environments, just literally talking about how you don't like this class, how you don't like this teacher, how you don't like this girl or this guy over here, how how what fucked up thing happened today. And when it travels into adulthood, it's kind of like, damn, you ain't really even experiencing life for real. Yeah, I'd be going across the street and like running the track and look up, and it's just a beautiful fucking day. Every single day I wake up and I look in the mirror, just say, like, it's I don't have to search for this being a good day, like it is a good day, right? Yeah, so I do a whole bunch of shit like mentally to stay in a very positive mindset. So that shit, I have experienced that too, speaking to people, and yeah, it's just all negative as fuck. Yeah, that shit is a that shit is a um poison.

Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I totally agree. I totally agree. I think we did it. Yeah, this is good. I enjoyed it. Well, this is two for the culture. We love y'all. We'll be back. We'll be back.