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Stefon Diggs Trial: Lies, Cheating, and Lust
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We start with how locking in on one craft can change everything, then follow that thread into a real conversation about desire, discipline, and the price of bad decisions. From the Stefon Diggs situation to our own experiences with temptation, we keep asking what integrity looks like when nobody’s watching.
• getting inspired by focus and being strategic with what we consume
• why trying to do too much creates a plateau
• breaking down the Stefon Diggs case and how narratives form online
• women’s intuition, jealousy, and the “don’t embarrass me” rule
• defining cheating, temptation, and relationship disrespect
• why guilt and lying feel heavier than the moment of pleasure
• how honesty can build respect and keep things clean long-term
• why serial cheating makes us question trust in business and friendship
• judging character through small tells like littering and reckless behavior
• lust, ego, and consequences using the King David story
• purpose, risk, consent concerns, and avoiding life-ruining accusations
• staying locked in by cutting off overly sexual energy and distractions
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SPEAKER_01And we are back with another episode of Two for the Culture. I'm Justin Devante. Steve Ray. Yes, sir. And we are back. Hey, just continue to like, subscribe, hit the notification bell. Yeah, yeah. You may not need to do that one, but at least like it. You know what I mean? Just take one step. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, subscribe. Yeah, yeah. We appreciate it all. Thank you. And we are back with another episode. How's everything been for you, Steve?
SPEAKER_03Good, good. Um uh uh uh uh uh um yeah, just just just um I don't know, ever seeing that Michael movie and seeing like how just how he was. Uh of course we all know Michael Jackson and all that, and like most of the stories and stuff. But it's it's just like super inspiring to see how he kind of just zoned in, locked in on certain things, and I want to do that with comedy and film. So uh that's really kind of what I've been on. Just um brushing up and being more immersed in comedy and film and being like more strategic with with my intake. So yeah, that is pretty much what I've been on.
Stefon Diggs Trial Breakdown
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I feel that I and I can apply that in my own life as like, hey, I want to do all these things, like hey, I want to have z several investment properties, I want to do this, but there's things that I have going that I can like truly hone in and make better, and it could, you know, the return on investment could be a lot better if I just focus on those things and started trying to like reach out in 10 other places, and then it's like, hey, I'm slowly getting there, then it'll be like a decline, and it's like it's evens out to like a plateau, essentially, when I try to do too much, and then now it's like, hey, let me just focus on my main things, and then um when I feel satisfied of accomp the accomplishment in that area, then I can move over here and do something. But trying to do eight things at one time is just been very, very hard. And that's something I always have to constantly tell myself because then I can see myself drifting away when I find and I'm like any other human, you find you hear something, it's like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, let me learn more about this thing. And then I then you're taking the you're taking away from that main thing that needs attention. Right. That flower needs to grow too. And if I'm watering other things and yeah, I only have this one water pot, you know, and I'm trying to water all the plants and just you know, and the stuff ends up dying out, that's actually more important. Um that's definitely a fact. But I had, you know, uh, I don't know if you've been keeping up with the news or not.
SPEAKER_03No, what what about it?
SPEAKER_01Are you familiar with the Stefan Diggs trial? Uh something, something like that. Okay. Yeah, what what what's going on? Okay, so Stephon, you know who Stephon Diggs is? Yeah. Okay, so he's the uh former wide receiver for the New England Patriots. He just went off the Super Bowl with them. He played for uh the Buffalo Bills. Uh Texans was a prior to that. Um, then Buffalo, then he was drafted by Minnesota Vikings. Great receiver, um, elite. Yeah. Um probably around our age, maybe a year young, younger. But um, so he was uh on trial um for apparently uh strangling his chef. Uh-huh. Okay. Are you familiar with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, you know, the the chef was a lady. Um, it came out that, you know, they call her the uh the chef with the BBL. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So that's what the internet says. Yeah, yeah. And uh of course, that already put you into like an idea of more of what type of chef this is. Uh-huh. But of course, he was smashing. Oh, okay. Yeah. And um, so he was found not guilty. You know, he's he dated Cardi B, his uh baby father to one of her children. Uh uh, right. Okay, so I'm just trying to catch you up real quick of what you didn't didn't know. Uh they they may still be in a relationship, but probably broken up. No, I think they are.
SPEAKER_03I just saw them on some some post.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so um, so he was found not guilty. Uh, and I'm kind of summarizing really quickly. Um, come to find out she was some type of living chef, maybe getting a grand or two a week from him. Oh, oh, okay, okay, okay. Okay, so um the day of the incident, there's people over, um, and he was found not guilty because he had witnesses stating that she didn't have the injuries that she said she has, text messages, like kind of I'll ruin you or I'll sue you, type of thing, I'll ruin your career, uh-huh, type of text message you were coming out. Um, so a combination with that, an eyewitness testimony, uh, found him not guilty. Oh, okay. Okay, so he's currently um a free agent, I believe, um, from the New England Patriots. So this would probably help him moving forward or but not guilty plus his talent. Yeah. Um so but but outside of that, uh, Nat's just kind of catching you things up, just like the situation for what it is, it got so many tentacles, and there's a lot of places that we can kind of go.
SPEAKER_03So I I did see uh the the main thing that I saw was her saying that he hit her on some side of her face, and then she said that he like swung with basically the opposite hand that would uh affect that side, and a whole bunch of people have been making videos on that. That's the main thing.
SPEAKER_01Like, I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03So it's in like if the right side of my face gets hit, and I'm like, yeah, he swung with his right hand. If you swung with your right hand, that means that like it's got a twirl or some shit to get back over.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So uh, I mean, I don't know what happened, but you know, that's what was said, and a lot of people are piggybacking off of that. Then when he was found not guilty, is a bunch of videos of people basically parroting the situation. So that's the only thing that I've saw that that I've seen about the situation. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what were you gonna say about it?
Intuition Jealousy And Public Embarrassment
SPEAKER_01Uh no, it that when you saying that just reminded me of uh uh the Instagram comedian dude Trey Rax uh and some of his skits. Yeah he had uh uh uh like a drink in his hand, like a solo cup, yeah, and the uh liquor was talking to him. Oh yeah, yeah. And then one of the things, he's like, he yeah, yeah. He bumped you on your my yeah, my left, no, your right shoulder. My right shoulder. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just spoke in front of him. Yeah, yeah. That whole skit was hilarious. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. But uh one of my favorites, but yeah, so with in terms of tentacles, uh, women are just naturally like great investigators. Uh-huh. Right. Yeah, yeah. And of course they're known for the uh intuition about things. Do you think that I'm sure Cardi B, at least from how I would interpret it, knew she he was probably having sex with her.
SPEAKER_03Uh, you're saying like while they were together? Yes. Oh, I mean, from the situation, uh, I would are you saying like before they even went to trial? Or like in the moment?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, maybe. I mean, first of all. There was a lot of stuff coming out about him, right?
SPEAKER_01I mean, he's he's known to be a womanizer. That was his reputation before they even got together. Oh, uh-huh. Like, have you ever seen that clip of the Minnesota Vikings? So his first place, his first home where he was drafted, there's like, which uh person would you which one of your teammates would you not want to see date your sister? Yeah, everybody. Stephon Dix. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's so that's his career, let alone you get to from Minnesota, Buffalo Bills, the Texans to the Patriots. Yeah, yeah. So you got a hell of a reputation. Several baby mamas.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah. So uh What is this man doing? I mean, he's he's him. I mean, like what a lot of men do. Elon Musk, how many kids he got? Like 11 Nick Cannon got, you know what I mean? Damn. No, I didn't know that. Elon Musk has a ton of kids, several six, seven baby mamas, something crazy like that. He maybe has like two kids with the same mama. You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. They said though. For sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. But you know, he masks his money. So he what? What what does that mean? Like, like he he like it feels up to the courts. He it looks like he makes no money to give them childhood.
SPEAKER_03Oh, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so so he gives them what he gets. What he feels like giving them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it it may be well, I'm sure it is. Yeah, but not like to the amount. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03Uh I can understand that.
SPEAKER_01Right, right.
SPEAKER_03I hear about stuff like that, and like, you know, the rich people that they they go around not paying taxes and other shit like that.
SPEAKER_01I remember one time he was talking about uh this uh uh political influencer they had a child with, Ashley Sinclair. She's bad, but you know, he was talking about taking her Tesla away from her. Okay. I mean, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, yeah. So obviously, you know, the courts ain't restricting him to where he has to pay something if he can pick or choose what he wants to take from her. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's yeah, I mean, he's he's a clearly smart guy. Yeah, right, yeah, he probably knows his way around this.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, absolutely. Um, but yeah, so I'm just saying natural intuition would tell her that hey, this woman's around, he's probably having sex with her. Uh-huh. Definitely she has a body. Uh oh, yeah, right. Right. I mean, like picture you going to your your your woman, your famous woman. Hey, my chef that lives with me. Yeah, yeah, cooks me dinner every night. Yeah. And I pay her two grand a week. The effects. Yeah, yeah. No girl. Yeah, I remember me being in a relationship, and we all took a picture because we was all going doing test trials at the office, and we all took a group picture together. Uh-huh. You know, she my girlfriend, like, who's that? Yeah, facts.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Why?
SPEAKER_03Just because she was pretty?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I get that. No, for sure. I I remember it, yeah. That that has happened to me before, for sure. I remember one time uh I was on a boat or something, and then there were a bunch of different uh women there that came to this event. And um my girl at the time, she was next to me, and I'm always taking photos of her, right? Like all the time. And then this other girl, it was full of like influencers and content creators. And one of these other girls, she had nobody to like take a picture of her. And I was like the closest person. And she's like, hey, can you like take a picture of me? It was just one photo, and then my girl was not fucking with that shit at all. So uh, nah, that was just something that just popped in my head. But nah, for sure. That that that definitely is a thing.
SPEAKER_01I wonder if uh, because my grandmother has a mindset. I wonder if it can't be I I well, I'll just throw it out there. Yeah. Um, my grandma is on the mindset a man's gonna do what a man's gonna do, and you, you know what I mean? You gotta kind of live with the decision that he makes. Uh-huh. Uh and I wonder if that's kind of like, hey, if Cardi B takes on a little bit of that and says, hey, you're going to cheat. Uh-huh. It is what it is. Just don't embarrass me.
SPEAKER_03Oh, uh-huh. Yeah, I hear that a lot. Or I've heard that a lot in different situations. Not in like necessarily real life, but I've I've heard that from afar, like seeing different podcasts and movies and um people. That usually ties into successful people. Um, yeah, I hear that a lot about how the women just feel automatically that you know if they have a successful man, he's he's just gonna cheat. It just is what it is. But don't embarrass me. I've heard that. I've heard that shit plenty of times.
Admitting Temptation Without Acting
SPEAKER_01Okay, can is this a podcast where we're vulnerable and we can speak about times as if if we cheated or not?
SPEAKER_03Uh if we cheated or not? Uh sure. Like what?
SPEAKER_01Okay. Oh, I'm just saying, have you cheated before?
SPEAKER_03Um, I have uh sent a text. Well, to me, like it wasn't cheating, but I disrespected my relationship one time. Okay. Um the closest I think I got to cheating was like the day of within the 24 hour. So to me, it wasn't cheating, but like it was like the 24-hour window of uh me and a girl breaking up. I was with somebody else. So, I mean, I guess that kinda is, but isn't like we would we've been done for real. It was just the words wasn't said, right, right, yeah. That shit that been over with. Right. But um not blatantly, like just straight up penetrating smashed on somebody, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, not while in a relationship, no. Uh have you?
SPEAKER_01Uh no, I have not. Uh-huh. But we're gonna go, we're gonna go a little bit further. Yeah. Have you ever wanted to cheat? Uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't like uh, man, I want to do this. Like, it never got that far. But you know, if you have issues, I I've been in situations where, you know, like you got issues and shit that's in home, eventually other people start to look more attractive. Like, I've been in that realm. Not necessarily like, man, I just want to like take her down, man.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so like if you're in the presence of another way, say it's a guy night. Yeah. And you're you're you're with your guys, there's a group of ladies come over, and one of them's on you for real. Right. And like you were like, I guess that that's never happened to where you're like, dang, I want to, but I I'm in a relationship.
SPEAKER_03Um it hasn't it hasn't happened fully like that. It has happened when I was happy in a relationship. I think I think it was one night I was with you. I was with you, and like it was like one of the very, very, very, very few nights. Were you there? I don't know. It was one of the very few nights where like all of my homies, or not all of them, but but uh a majority of us went somewhere together. And it was like a dinner or something. I know Tate was there, I think Kadera was there, so it might have been like in Nashville or like surrounding areas or whatever. And I do remember I had got I had just got this big ass check, and it probably was around here, and we went somewhere, and then I said I was gonna buy everybody's shots like the first round or some shit. And then the waitress came over and she said, like, oh, you must be like the head snake or something. It was something just like basically said, like, oh, you're the big dick at the table.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I wasn't there. I'm joking. None of this rings a bell at all. So really, no, bro.
SPEAKER_03I think you was there, bro. Okay, like, but um, yeah, she said she said something like that. I knew I had a chance for real. But I I wasn't on that, and I was happy in a relationship and all that type of shit.
SPEAKER_01But like But but she wasn't fine enough.
SPEAKER_03I mean she wasn't fine enough. Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, but I mean, at the same time, I I wasn't even in the headspace of like something could like fuck with it, you know. Like usually, I don't know. Like I said, the only time that I've like looked out and was like, wow, some attractive women out here is when my relationship was doing terrible and I felt like I wasn't I wasn't being seen in my own home, type shit. Yeah, like that shit would would fuck with me mentally to where somebody could say nice shirt, and like man, I'll take that bit back. Yeah, she was like she could make me happy. Yeah, like them them stupid ass thoughts. But yeah, that's the only time that that that shit ever happened with me. Like, what about you?
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah. Yep, what no? I'm just saying, like, in terms of uh there's times to where I would have I like the opportunity presented itself and I wanted to, but yeah, I I ultimately declined. So yeah, so I think I probably talked about it before. Um, to where it was a situation to where it was uh uh two girls and well it was four girls, but two of them was one and a half or three threesome. Oh uh and then uh I was like, I'm in a relationship. Well, there's like I was like, well, she can join too. Oh, right, right, right. So my dumbass called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She said no, obviously. Yeah, uh, but uh yeah, and then she's like, okay, well, you can still cheat. Or just like, all right, you can still come or whatever. It's up to you, you know. You can still do it. Like that. That's what the girl said. Yeah, like I tr I literally called. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then she said, No, you know what I mean? And then it was like, well, okay, well, all right, well, it's totally up to you what you want to do. And I was like, Right, nah, I'm good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, she said now she's clocking you, probably. Who at that point?
SPEAKER_01I thought it was like a trust, like you know, I'm being naive, relationships are new, uh yada yada, just speaking my truth. I was like, I thought if I was like honest about my feelings and how I thought, as long as I didn't act on it, it was okay. Yeah, but that's not how things look into other people's eyes. It's like, hey, I I'm very real about things, so I will it's like, yeah, what do you think? I'm blind now, you know what I mean? Like, I cannot see any women and not think they're attractive. I would be naive to think that about you. I just don't want to hear about it. Oh, yeah, because then at the beginning, we was like, hey, just be wrong about what you think and how you feel, yada yada. And I was probably not doing I was doing the thing, like the rule. It's like, hey, as long as I'm with I'm saying the rule, then we're good. But it's just that's not life. We're not AI robots, you know what I mean? Yeah, we're humans with feelings, and now we can internalize things on where she can maybe have felt like she was not good enough or whatever. Not saying that she did or didn't. But um back to the thing, it's like, yeah, that was an opportunity, but for me, the reason why I don't do it is because a part of it's like selfish reasons is like I don't want to feel guilty, uh-huh, like uh having this and uh being wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so and I know how like the weight of the soul shoulder of doing something wrong and holding that over you, like even saying a lie to somebody to uh because to protect yourself, yeah, yeah. It's that guilt of knowing you're wrong and living with it, yeah. And that's just a lie, let alone the guilt of cheating. And you now you gotta pretend that's just too much weight for me to carry. So I rather not do the thing even though I want to, yeah, because I know it's gonna hurt me way further. I know it's gonna be something I thought, and I like to live guilt-free and conscience-free.
SPEAKER_03So you rather just say, hey, hoes are on me. What are we gonna do about this?
SPEAKER_01You're not gonna do anything. Okay, bet.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I guess mom said I gotta come back when the lights are off or the the the street lights off.
SPEAKER_01Essentially, how it went. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um in the back in the back seat. Well, you don't have to listen to mom. Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to get beat.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I couldn't. I I would keep that shit to myself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, if it was at, I don't know. I don't know. No, I would say, I would say something. Yeah, I would say something. Yeah, if I was like pressed to have a threesome or some shit, I'm like, hey, I'm gonna just let you know. I get it. I get it. I don't know. I I do like to have relationships where it's built on trust. You know, sometimes that shit be fucking up. Actually, that shit don't be fucking nothing up. Ever since I stopped like intentionally ghosting people and like lying to like spare somebody's feelings, I'm not gonna lie, they be staying longer. Like when when I do that. As in like if there's a situation where like damn, I probably shouldn't have talked to girl A because of whatever I was going through, and now I'm in a situation where girl A uh feels uh I don't know, uh a certain way about me more than I feel about her, then now I gotta like break it to girl A. And you know, it it just seems like when I do that and just be completely honest about every single thing, there's like a time period where pain or like hurt is there, which I hate doing. So I don't even like I don't even like putting myself in situations anymore like that'll like hurt somebody's feelings and shit. Cause I don't like going through that. Um, but usually when I do that and I had that conversation, you know, whether it's it's not a great conversation or or not, for some reason after that pain like simmers down or that that hurt does, it just feels like I be locked in with that person like way longer.
SPEAKER_02You know.
Honesty Guilt And The Loyalty Badge
SPEAKER_03I have like other friends and and homies and and people that I know where they'll just go straight to the lie or or you know, like go around the situation and find way and that shit blow up on them, and then now they blocked and they never talk to them again. But it just seems to me being completely honest about stuff, and one clearly not putting yourself in these situations, but um it's like a way bigger respect at the end of it all. So no, I definitely I I I I feel that just being honest with your person about what the fuck is going on and shit like that, because uh they're gonna find out anyway. Yeah, maybe I should stop lying to these hoes.
SPEAKER_00I'm just kidding. Uh yeah, I'm not going to stop.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm just um yeah, everybody knows I'm joking. But uh, but yeah, I mean, because the the reason why I was talking, I mentioned like like kind of you know, why you why uh have you ever cheated and kind of what's drawn you to there? Because you you brought up a very interesting point um that my mom talked about before, and I was like, geez, she knows men very well. Uh-huh. And when you're talking about when you was kind of like checked out of the relationship, yeah. It's like almost that you had the right to cheat, essentially. Uh uh. That's how you kind of told yourself, like, hey, I can I look at girls, you know, I'm kind of out of it. You know what I mean? At this point in the relationship. Is that how you is that kind of how you wanted it?
SPEAKER_03I never got fully to the point of like I could cheat or I could whatever.
SPEAKER_01Um But it's it felt like you felt guiltless if you would have, though. Is that true?
SPEAKER_03No, it would have been, yeah, it would have been guilt. Oh, for sure. That's why I never got to that point of okay. That so, but but I was being honest and saying, you know, I definitely saw way more attractive people, right? Like when it wasn't necessarily like the relationship was going through its thing, it was just me not being seen and shit. And it just felt like, damn, like this cute girl is looking at me longer than 0.5 seconds. I'm like, I'm just noticing these people now that I would have never noticed before. Um, and that was happening, but I never, I never was like let first of all I was scared to do that shit anyway. I was rusty. When you're in a relationship for so long, it's like you know, trying to spit game on somebody, I wouldn't even have got that far because of the guilt shit. But I did notice that there was way more cute girls in this room than I I I uh would have previously noticed just because of the other shit. So I get what she's saying, but in my case, I'm not even like I said, going back to like telling the truth and like getting myself in situations where I hurt somebody's feelings and shit like that. I don't I'm I don't like that anyway. So I'm not like um one of these guys who um that you hear about that just like don't really give a fuck about nothing. Like I actually do, so I I gotta protect my own energy and self because then I'm gonna be fucked up mentally. Yeah, I don't want to go back home and fuck up the household, and now I gotta deal with myself in the mirror and I ain't trying to deal with that shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, I feel that. And I also uh want to add on to about uh like a reason for why I don't cheat is like I like the badge of having like I've always been loyal.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Like that's a badge I wear proudly. You know, it's like a boy scout and you got another patch, bro. You got the loyal badge right there, you know, you know what I mean? And I like that feeling of having it as well. So um that's uh you know, maybe an ego thing, but yeah, that's another reason why. But there's been times because where I was getting at and where I felt like uh my mom hit the nail on the head when she's talking about like how like when your relationship and how things are you know maybe not going well, and I'm really paraphrasing, and I'm probably if she if you're listening, I'm I'm sure I'm messing this up, but you know, like and when things are are the relationship is poor, or there's things of where there's a lot of lack on the woman's part, then you know, there feels like a situation to where it's like I have the right to cheat, like I deserve to cheat. Yeah, and it's like when every like in my relationship towards the end, it was like I couldn't do really anything right in the relationship, how it's acting as if I did cheat.
SPEAKER_02Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_01Like, I was like, dang, like the way this is going is that you know I did something bad. Yeah, it's like bro, we're dis we disagree on things, but it's like we're we're in like a situation to where it's like high stakes at this point, and I don't know how ri we got here. And to where I was like, well, shoot, if this is how you know I mean, I was like, the way I said this, it's like you would have thought I brought a another woman's child on. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, I was a father to a child that I didn't tell you. That's how how dire it feels. And I just and I was like, man, I rather I was like, I rather deserve this than actually be in this hypothetical situation to where it's putting stress when it doesn't need to need to be. I'm like, relax. It's like not that bad. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You you can I help pitch in when you need something, you know what I mean? Uh we love each other. Let's build on that. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, so uh that was one of the things I wanted to mention. Is like, okay, Stefan Diggs has a a true problem. Um, but because I mean, one, it's, it's, it sucks that he has um uh periods how the court rules um false allegations that was on him. Um, and obviously that we should probably talk about that because that's important. But um it's like bruh, you you got a a lot of things to lose. You having sex with this this the chef that lives with you, you you know she likes you at this point, or potentially loves you, and finds being in the side chick role, but is it from my understanding, it was like he brought women, other women around and kicked her out. Like, bro, you gonna now you gonna piss her off. You know what I mean? It's like why go through all that just to get other pussy, you you know what I mean? Are are is it us as men and not thinking this all the way through? You know, because I remember the times to where I like when I mentioned that three uh threesome, foursome, whatever you want to call it, um like I thought it through. I was like, yeah, I could do this and yada yada, yeah, and it'll probably, you know, I could not get caught, but you know what I mean? It's like, is that not do men not think further steps?
SPEAKER_03I I don't I don't think so. It's like why? I mean if it's right there, usually that's that's kind of the the thing. Uh and it's an ego boost too. Nine times out of ten, it's usually um like I said, like you know, if things are going just terrible at home and I go to Walmart and a girl says nice shirt, I'm like, see, that's the shit that I like right there. Like, you know what I'm saying? You gravitated toward um validation and and um it could be like a small stare, you know what I'm saying? I I feel like that's what or it's like the ego feeding the ego, like I'm that nigga, I'm the man, you know. I think that that's a thing. And it's not I don't think that's a that comes with long term.
Serial Cheaters And Trust Problems
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think we maybe need to interview like a uh a true real cheater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my friends who cheats often. Who the fuck is gonna do that? I mean, I don't somebody vulnerable, you know what I mean? You know, talk tells his story, yeah. Because the reason why I'm asking saying that is because we know cheaters cheaters are liars, yeah, you know, they go hand in hand, and um so I feel like they wake up knowing they gonna cheat and gonna lie about it. You know, is it's like nothing to them, and I'm just saying, how do you kind of live like that?
SPEAKER_03I feel like that's a terrible that's a terrible character flaw. Um not necessarily talking specifically about I mean specific people, but there was a guy one time on scrolling and shit, and he was saying that he goes to dinners or brunches with people that he wants to do business with, like big, big type of business. And um if they're married and they start like looking around at other women and shit, like at the wherever they're at, then he doesn't do business with them. And then I kind of take that into my natural um everyday life when it comes to like friendships and stuff like that. Like for me, like a little red flag goes off in my head when you know sometimes people fuck up. That I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about like serial cheaters. It's kind of like dog, I can't try I I be thinking I I be thinking in my head, what if everybody was granted everything that you ever wanted? You know, like the the money, the for some people it could be fame, it could be well for most men, it's usually money, power, and status. Like those three kind of like make every nigga feel like that nigga for real. So I was saying if these people that do that, if they're all given that, if everybody at the round table with all everyone's different characteristics or whatever are all given money, power, and status, who you truly are is gonna show for real. And it's like a nigga that cheats on his girl, it's a serial cheater, every single girl you've been with, he's been cheating on her, and da da da. It's like if everybody was given this, could I trust you? You know what I'm saying? Because then the the real you is gonna be there, and you might want to get more power and fuck me over on this deal, even though that we friends and this, that, and the other, because some shiny object or some shiny new opportunity looked better than what you had right here. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I I see exactly what you're saying. Yeah, and um those those are can be somewhat difficult because people's morals are different too. Yeah, yeah. I may think of cheating as like as a you know, gray area, like uh, you know, I we can have an open relationship, but it's all different. And they may view sex completely different than I can't, you know what I mean? The other person, so it just depends on who they are morally, and you know, maybe stealing is like a super no they may lie, they may cheat, yeah, but they ain't gonna steal from nobody, you know what I mean? So it's people's morals can be different, but I feel you though, because I'm kind of like some of my friends who I think of when it comes to that. Um well uh I'll say one friend, and it's not probably the friend you're thinking about, but um, yeah, when he he does it, I like I don't like how you how you do this thing. Uh-huh. Like, it's not even the fact that you're cheating, is that you know what I mean? You you have you have every intention when we go out to have sex with another woman knowing you're in a relationship. Uh-huh. Yeah. And I don't like that about that. Because it's it's something that you gotta lie. Your your life is a lie, in a sense. Yeah. It's like, hey, you want to pretend that your home is happy to your wife, but you out here doing whatever for whatever reason. You know what I mean? And you're just completely lying. And I just think that's just that has a bad taste in my mind.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened to me. Um, well, it didn't happen to me, but I I went somewhere uh maybe like like a week ago, two weeks ago. You know how like I'll just walk into bars or some shit and um really just walk out nowadays, but uh just to get catch a vibe or whatever. And one of these bars I walked into, a dude recognized me. And then it was like, oh shit, man, like da da da da, that whole thing. And then um shortly after that, you know, he was like, Yeah, you know, like me and uh my wife, man, like we'd be like laughing and all this, da-da-da-da-da. About five, ten minutes later, um, you know, he was just like, Yes, like what you doing tonight? You you bar hopping, you da-da-da. And I was like, uh yeah, you know, just just just catching a vibe. And he said, All right, cool, man. Um, shit, you know, if you're trying to get on some girls or whatever, man, like I'll I'll get with you, and da da da. And then I was just thinking in my head, like, nigga, you just said that you had a wife or whatever. And then I I followed him. And then when I came back home, I looked on his page, he got a wife and a kid and a house, and all this, and the house is decked up. Y'all clearly are quote happy and all that. And I'm like, damn, bro. And his name is Desmond. Uh yeah, I think it did start with a D. But um, yeah, it's just it's weird. This shit is weird. I just feel like the people that do that, I can't trust you. Like there, the trust goes only a certain amount. I it only goes so far. So I don't know. I can't I can't really do that. Uh uh because I be fucked up. Like I literally like I really be fucked up. Like if I'm with a girl, uh, and I be all in, yeah. And you know, just even a thought of so anytime like I kind of fucked up in a relationship, or like I said, like there was once um where I I know for a f like I disrespected the relationship, and it wasn't nothing like crazy as fuck, but it was enough to fuck some shit up. And I was fucked up off that. And it just like to be around people or to to have somebody close to me, like in my friends' circle, to where it don't really fuck them up, it's just like I don't know. R I I guess like how you were saying, morals and shit like that, it's just like kind of different. And I I I take that to the extreme in my head. I always go back to this thought, like, if everybody had everything they ever wanted, like, could I trust you? Like, what if everybody in this room thought you was like I I don't know. I just always put put put things into that perspective. Everybody had everything they ever wanted. Like, what would would I really be friends with you? You know what I'm saying? Or would you do some fucked up shit because you knew at the end of the day you had money, power, status, this, this, that, and the other.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, sometimes I do be thinking too far, but I mean, no, I think that's a uh a fair analysis. Um it's just, you know, I I wouldn't be the end-all be-all, you know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I ain't doing I'm not gonna say, hey, if yeah, like whoever you said, mentor a podcast you watched, uh-huh. Um if he if you know the bottle girl, he looks at a booty, like that's like regular man stuff.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm talking about like like overly, like, hey, you see her right there, she would have I don't know, just like too much. The way he explained it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, too much. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it I mean, I'm not gonna do that to somebody if that's just business and we ain't cool.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna lie, I be judging people off of small ass shit. I do do that.
SPEAKER_01No, well, I'm just saying, like, would like, all right, so for example, I have a uh uh a guy I'm cool with at work, we sit next to each other. You know, we never hung out outside of here, but if there was like, hey, we went to brunch to like discuss doing business together, and this girl with a big booty, I may tap them on the like, bruh. You know what I mean? Like, you know, it wasn't like that. Oh, I get what you're saying. But if we're just like associates and like, hey, it's a business opportunity, you're an investor, and you want to you you like a product that I'm trying to pitch to you, yeah. I I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, because I'm focused, I'm trying to lock in, you know, with yeah on the business activity. Yeah, that would be a little weird, like, bruh. You know what I mean? Yeah, but outside of that, then I I wouldn't I wouldn't trip. If he's like, if his odds are kind of follow a little bit, I mean, yeah, it's the man's she got the big booty. I yeah, see how that can happen. I'm reasonable, yeah. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03I get I I get exactly what you're saying. It was just it was it was it was more um it was it was it was more of a thing than just like some normal, like, ah damn, like she got fat ass. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it was more than that.
SPEAKER_01But uh, and I can I bet if he really liked whatever product the guy was pitching, he would be like, man, all right, bet. You know what I mean? If this looked like a million dollar idea, then he probably still gonna go along with it.
Small Character Signs Like Littering
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, I I don't know. Yeah, but I I said that to to say I do be judging people off of the smallest things. Like I was at a coffee shop. Um, you know, I'm always at a coffee shop. This was uh this was a few days ago. And it's this dude, and I I frequent um uh uh some coffee shops, and the one that I frequent is this dude with a Tesla. And a Tesla looked nice. And I seen him come out of that Tesla maybe like a week or two ago, or some shit like that. And then I wanted to ask him, just I don't know, just sometimes you're just curious about other people in their lives and shit. But just like, damn, like bro, what you do? You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Uh, because it it was nice, it was decked out and shit, and he just looked like a normal guy. And I I I wanted to ask him like some weeks ago when I saw him, but I saw him again like a couple days ago. So I sit down and he's like right here, like next to me. And he sits down uh with his homie or some shit there in conversation, and I was finishing something up on my computer, and I'm like, all right, after I finish this, I'm gonna just like say, you know, what's up, say just say something. And he undid some box or some shit, just picture you get something in the mail. He opened the box up, and it was like picture like it's a mouse or something, like in it. And then he had to open up some plastic, and then he opened up the plastic, and then he crumbled the plastic, and then he kind of like looked around a little bit, and then he just like dropped it on the floor. I didn't fuck with him ever since. I didn't say nothing to him. Now every time I see him, like, that's that fuck nigga.
SPEAKER_01That that litter, yeah, this litter ass nigga.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I I feel you. Fuck him.
SPEAKER_01That no, I I feel yeah, because littering is a clear character flaw. The trash is right there, bro. Yeah, littering is a character flaw for me too. I like I don't I don't like to see it. It's like Brad, you couldn't hold on to it, you just dropped it on the ground. That's trifling.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you gotta it ain't like you ain't doing well, you ain't yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Nigga, yeah, fuck you, bro. No, I got you. I'm with you. I think that's a character flaw too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't fuck with that. Yeah, and it's it's some things that you you see, yeah. Like if you saw uh a person go to gas station, pick up a water bottle and put it into his shirt or his pocket, right?
SPEAKER_03I I ain't fully judging on that one.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so if he okay. I ain't fully judging on that one. So if he picks up a four loco, y'all talking about doing business together. He picks up a four loco, he put it in his hitty pocket on the front joint and then walks out.
SPEAKER_03Well, the situation has changed now. Okay, but um yeah, no, that's that's we just still talking about the deal when we walk out.
SPEAKER_01Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, I got this product for you, man. It'll go well with the social media. It's an AI system that will automatically per uh build your algorithms up or whatever. You know what I mean? And then you'll be like, bruh.
SPEAKER_03He just used me to get out of that hole.
SPEAKER_01No, he it was true business, but he stole right, he stole at the gas fixer right in front of you, yeah, and then popped that hole open while y'all in the car driving.
SPEAKER_03Right. They steal from us all the time, man. Fuck them. That's not some shit.
SPEAKER_01No, he just he just talking like he never stole it. Oh, yeah. He stole it right in front of you. He just he just chilling. No, that's that'd be crazy. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. I gave you a whole extra. Yeah, that's that'll be too extra. Who's doing that? But I'm sure there's somebody out there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Lust Ego And King David’s Collapse
SPEAKER_01Man, I really I didn't think it was gonna spin off of this tangent tangent. Oh, yeah. Uh uh, so because I really wanted to talk about a couple things on this uh Cardi B and Stefan Diggs thing. Um it's it's it's the love and the desire of sex from men. Like a part of me feels like uh God gave us that innately because otherwise we wouldn't be at exactly. Yeah. You agree? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we would have to. Yeah, what the fuck? Uh because if we didn't have that, then yeah. You know? Yeah. There would be way less people in this market.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but for sure. I mean, yeah, it it it I was like, I wanted to make sure it didn't sound because it also it got to be more than just the nut, right? You know what I mean? Like it's it's it's more than the desire to nut for us to seek it, you know. Yeah, it's we we've talked about this before. It's like an ego filler, uh conquering like yeah, it's a whole accomplishment.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, because and it also long term too, it's not just that moment.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Yeah, because it's it's some girls that try to get onto you, like, Brad, nah.
SPEAKER_03Uh huh.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? And it could just be if it was just a nut, then you'd be like, Yeah, why not? Oh, facts, and then you may sometimes have those moments when they just that, but others like, nah, I'm not doing this with you. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, because it's not fulfilling.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Right, right. Uh huh. So Um, and it's like picture this. You know, I'm sure you heard the story of David and Goliath. Uh huh. And then have you uh you heard the story about King David when he had sex with Bathsheba? I don't fully remember. Okay, yeah. So um he was out in his uh I don't want to say balcony, but I'll let you envision it. And he he gazes upon a woman taking a shower on top of her roof, essentially. Um, and then her name is Bathsheba. Bathsheba had a husband named Josiah who fought in King David's army. He he he uh asked somebody, who is that over there? That's Bathsheba. I said Josiah's Uriah. Uh and then he asked her to come into his chambers. He had sex with her, and then he impregnated her, and then he asked Uriah, hey, you need to come home for more, you know, to just relax with and uh with uh relax a little bit, come back to your chambers, you know, spend some time with your wife. Uriah said, you know, essentially, I I can't I'll feel guilty knowing that my guys are out there and I'm at home chilling. So he slept and he instead of going um w back to spend time with his wife, he slept at the walls of the uh the castle for the king.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. He already done smashed and then pregnant.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so he's trying, he's trying to bring Uriah to have sex so he can so that can be his child.
SPEAKER_03So Uriah can think that's his child pregnant about that she oh yeah, he's so he's trying to uh uh uh uh uh cover his tracks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Right, right.
SPEAKER_03So you really need to go home for real.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, spend some time with your wife, relax a little bit, you know, because we had war, yada yada. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so Uriah essentially is like, I'm not, you know, I'm not going home at this time, you know. And then so and so King David at that point it was like, well, I got a problem on my hands. So he sent Uriah in the first Calvary so he could die. Oh so he sent him to his death. Well, let's just take care of this, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he essentially killed Uriah. Right. Right. So that was all over some pussy. Right. And I'm just saying that is an extreme situation. Picture it like, hey, bruh, you ain't yeah, yeah, I'm trying to, you know, fool you into thinking that you had sex with your wife, but no, I'm gonna just kill you. That didn't work, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah, yeah, just because I just cause I want to have sex for real. I'm just saying it's the love and how strong and intense that's that is, yeah, to where it's destroying us. Like how many of us have whether it's you sleep with a girl and then she has a man and that man comes kill you. You're right. We've we've seen that a million times. You know, at the club, just um last week at La place called La Dance, it's right right off of Broadway on Roads of Parks. People lost their lives. I'm sure it was over some silly nonsense, probably over a girl, you know, egos get involved. It and it doesn't even have to be truly the situation over a girl. It's girls around. He says something to you, you can't feel like no chump. Facts shooting.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Somebody lost their life, and then the sh the club got shut down permanently.
SPEAKER_03Link? Oh, yeah. No, that was with the car. That was the car.
SPEAKER_01This one is LaDance.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Immediately. That's a whole business gone. That's, you know, a community, uh, uh, something where it's downtown and that's a black thing, that's gone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And, you know, I'm driving now, and you people from the night's like, where's all the black, you know, black places? Like, shit, we losing them, you know, yeah, once a week, there's something going on here. And I think it's just a a problem. And um, I I feel like we need to get a handle on this thing.
SPEAKER_03Hell. I don't know. There's no way to do it. No. No. Yeah, I feel like humans, there are certain cycles that have been there forever. When you look in the Bible, when I looked in the Bible and I saw like something about a prostitute in the first, like fucking well, I don't think it's in the first book, but just, you know, in the beginning of this motherfucker. You're talking about a prostitute way back then, that shit ain't never going away. The war and greed is never going away. The women um or men's legacies falling because of uh, I wouldn't even say it's because of women. I just think it's the that thing that men have, that lustful shit, it can turn on you, it fuck everything up. Yeah, I these these simple issues that have always been a thing, I feel like will always be a thing until we turn into robots or some shit.
SPEAKER_01I I I definitely agree. I don't and I'm not naive to not think that as a problem, but I think that is something that we need to further think about. Like, hey, let's not dismiss this and just have this as a reminder of the consequences that you may suffer because of your womanizing um problems, our egos, the the desire and yearn for to to uh to love women. A lot of things come with it, and I think that we just don't that's not a conversation.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, I mean in a in a in a way. I've also seen even with myself, like there are situations where because I feel like I have a pretty high discernment of the type of company that I keep, but like still it could be something so slight, and then I could like have a conversation with a person that could that I probably wouldn't have had if I was totally on my shit, and then that one little small conversation can lead to like A, B, C, D, E, F, and then two months later, now I'm in some situation, and it wasn't even as grand as seeing somebody naked across the street uh fucking showering. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it could start off from the slightest thing. Like, how do you save somebody from something just so sli they could be checking their mailbox and there's a cute ass girl, you know what I'm saying? And then the decision to meet up with her could have been easily I don't know. Like there it it it can just it can be so slight of a thing, but I do think that a man being completely focused on his purpose and the stuff that he needs to do will eliminate that though. Um it'll always be there, and the more I feel like a man is focused on his purpose, the more that shit is gonna be there.
SPEAKER_01But um and I you're you're cooking a little bit, and to add on um to what you're saying, because that is very true, very true.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
Purpose Risk And Avoiding Accusations
SPEAKER_01I love that. Uh, is that we also don't know our purpose either.
SPEAKER_03Uh oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, for sure. Exactly. So it's like, what is so you look at it, man, you would say, what is your purpose? You know, I don't know, bro. You know what is my purpose? Uh what am I supposed to be doing?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I guess in the long run, nobody ever knows for real. I think I just know it feels right.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, you're you're I mean, we all have our own purpose according to our life, too. Yeah, yeah. Like for us overall as a man, hey, protect protect and provide for your family. You know what I mean? Make sure that, you know, shelters you can have the general things. But for us individually, when we say our family, for me is my grandmother. Hey, make sure that she's you know, her needs is taken care of, make sure she has the things that, you know, that uh uh yeah, her needs. Um for you is your daughter, you know what I mean? So we all have our individual purposes of what we need to do and for our own life, and that's something I consider, and I'm sure you do as well, is that if I do this thing, this could get me in trouble, and then who's gonna else gonna be able to take care of my grandmother's needs? So let me not put myself in this situation because the the consequence could be too high to where the risk is not not worth it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and that's how I leave because when when I do driving, I'm like, bruh, you know, there's women drinking, I'm like, nah, I can't, I can't even have the accusation. Because yeah, the accusation itself is too strong. Yeah, facts, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I can't, even though I may want to, but it's like it's just not wise for me to do so.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that is kind of different too. Um being uh uh um like going to these I'll be in and out of bars, like I said. Like I'm not like on that shit right now, like the drinking and all that type of shit. And it does feel I don't know. I I don't even see myself like if a girl is like that. Like I don't even see myself even entertaining the fact of like come over or some shit. It's just it don't even feel right. Yeah, yeah. And it definitely puts me into the mind state of like, damn. So like when I am, it's it's just it's just weird. It's just weird, it's a different energy, it's a different energy, like especially like if I'm on that same wave or like six months ago, when I would just go to the bar or some shit, and it was a girl there, and I'm you know, if we both uh are tipsy and all this type of shit, it feels like it's leveled or whatever. Like, whatever happens, happens. Uh, not saying I put myself in those situations, but um, yeah, it's definitely a difference. If like I get because when you're saying you driving, like you ain't fucked up driving and shit. But if they get in the car, like the energy, the the the vibration that both of y'all are like pinging off of is it's not the same. And it feels like at the end of the day, I'm assuming you feel like if they did, uh, or if y'all did something, it would just kind of eat you up feeling like you you feel like you taking advantage of the situation or something.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm just saying the possibility of them saying I took advantage of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not me feeling guilty in that moment, it's more so the possibility is like, what if she was uh too drunk to actually consent?
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Or or she says it just because she my main concern is she's she's married, she gets caught, and she lies. Damn. That's really that's really the big thing. Because you have the that situation, not just like uh she was married and wanted to have sex. Like, my you know, she's like, hey, you want to do this thing? And I'm like, yeah, you know what I mean? And then she's like, I'm married though. I'm like, whoa, now you kind of you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, but you know, what it found out, and then she lied, because we we had one of our homeboys, if you if you don't remember in college, she was in a relationship. Um, she lied about them having relationships and said she he um graped her and yeah, and then to her man, and that was a lie. Oh, uh huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can remind you of it, but nonetheless, that was one of our homeboys, and you know, and just that, you know, alone. It didn't go anywhere. And her friends are like, bruh, you tripping while you do that, that's not true. Uh-huh. And uh, yeah, just to kind of protect herself from her being in the relationship with the guy is like, hey, I didn't do this, he did this to me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then picture, you know, them taking a further. Oh, all right, well, call the police. Do you do a police report? No, well, let's do it. So now you you stringing along with the lie.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. It's like me or I'm gonna kill him. You know what I mean? So you're either gonna call the police or I'm gonna kill him for doing this thing to you.
SPEAKER_03Uh right, right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So those are like, bruh, that's not all that that the risk is too high worth the reward of me sleeping with somebody.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What the fuck?
SPEAKER_01I know I'll be overthinking shit.
Staying Locked In Around Flirtation
SPEAKER_03No, I think that that energy is there though. That energy is there. Like, I always feel that shit to the max too. And it feels like slightly, I don't like the word lonely, but the more that I'm focused on what I feel like I need to be focused on, I feel like the more the more I'm I'm uh overwhelmed in solitude. Yeah. And it literally eliminates every situation, every like encounter with the a random woman like that. I wouldn't even be at the place to see this woman. I wouldn't even be answering a call or a text or whatever because I'm just so locked in on what I feel like I need to be doing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're you're that's I need to establish that discipline.
SPEAKER_03It ain't even like discipline for real. It's like you don't even I don't know, like you just locked it. I mean, the way that your life goes, you ain't even on it type of shit anyway.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03But we should just explain a few stories.
SPEAKER_01Right, right, right. But I'm just saying the way you're saying it, I'm not that disciplined. Like, I'm disciplined enough to know, yeah, this is not wise for me to do this act.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01But you know what I mean? The way you're talking is you're like dismissive. You're like in terms of like, bruh, it's easy. I'm I'm locked in, I'm I'm not focused on the noise.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm submersed in the noise. I just say no. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I'm saying that discipline to be zone up because, like, for example, like the way you're describing it is if I'll I'll I'll say a scenario that happened to me, but it kind of applied to you. Like uh Amer America, you're in America Lounge, this girl comes up to you, she she likes your vibe, she sees you here often, she's she's checking you out, clearly tells she's interested, yeah, she's cute, and then she's very flirtatious, yeah. And it's it's sexual too. Yeah. And she has sex appeal. Uh-huh. So, you know, it's to where you're saying is like, bruh, I am not even, I'm locked in on this moment. I'm not, I'm cool.
SPEAKER_03I would just pick up on the energy and just be like, this, this is something off.
SPEAKER_01For me, I'm in it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I just know how far I'm not going to take it. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. I like I'm not gonna take it that far, but I still love it. You know what I mean? I love the energy it's given.
SPEAKER_03Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some shit.
SPEAKER_01Uh-uh. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03There's something at the end of that. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01For sure. But I'm willing to go all the way up to the light and be like, bro, I'm good. You know what I mean? But I enjoy what I got.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, that's again, like that's me locked in for real. But you know, the times that I'm not, I don't know. Like sometimes I just be like, yeah, for the plot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll do that sometimes, but nah, nah. The the the for from what I have seen from myself anyway, and like um being on this journey of where I am now, cause and effect is just like a real thing. It's just almost like I could see the first part of a movie, and like this movie don't end well. Like it, it that's how like vibes, I could just pick up on a vibe or some shit. Like if a girl says something like a little weird or aggressive, and then like what?
SPEAKER_01Like, like there was a girl take a while out of your pockets to give me your money.
SPEAKER_03But no, like that there was a girl one time, she was like, um uh uh uh you know, I like to be talked to a certain way and like this and that, you know, uh um, people who've been growing up with love around them and stuff like that. And then if I say one day, like, ah, you know, uh if I call, if I call and then I'm like, You busy? And then they're like, um, well, I'm just making a coffee. And then I'm like, uh, I mean, can you talk? And then they're like, I mean, I answered the phone. Zoe. Yeah, oh, for sure. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like small ass thing, like, ah, it's not gonna work.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I feel you. Yeah, I see that's the trailer. Yeah, I just I can see the end of this movie, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like I'm not gonna keep like I'm not gonna keep on trying to have a conversation when you clearly don't want to. Uh not even that.
SPEAKER_03Like, she could possibly want to have a conversation, but it's just the difference of us.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Ah, this ain't gonna work. Or if I'm at a coffee shop, and like you said, like if a girl's just super overly flirtatious and this and that off a first rip, then it's just like, nah, I don't see this movie ended with it, it might be good for like the first 30 minutes of the movie, but I don't think I properly pictured the vibe of the vibe I had.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh. Yeah, because it was like it was like not it was it was very frustrated. You could cut it the sexual energy was there and you could cut it with a knife. But it was not like, bruh, this is uh sexy red. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. To where it's like, bruh, you're doing too much.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Yeah, it was like more of like a like you say it's it's my type, it's like everything, and we just click.
SPEAKER_01Like the the Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was, but you were 100% right. I felt like bruh, she's dangerous. Like, because she was like, you know, what type of cologne you you got? Yeah. Just come in and just like like smells my neck, and like and you can feel it. I'm like, Yeah, bruh, I'm getting, you know, I'm getting turned on real quick. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it but it wasn't like, you know, super, super extra to where like, bruh, you're doing too much.
SPEAKER_03It's just enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, to to where you you get it clearly, yeah. But it's like it's like Cleopatra-esque, yeah.
SPEAKER_03In a sense. Uh, I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I can get that. No, facts, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I be uh, no, that that damn, that that is a fact. Just to wrap it up. I be uh I I be um yeah, if a girl's overly sexual, even if I follow them, like sometimes girls will have like a lot of followers and shit, and it's like uh kind of like a mutual benefit. If we well, I don't know, it's a benefit if somebody got a whole bunch of followers and they follow me. So when my shit hits, or you know, the like one out of ten videos, like hit hit, Instagram pushes that to everybody that follows me. So like whoever followed me, that's a benefit for me. But if they posting a story and it's like overly sexual and I know like niggas is gonna fall in line, I mute them. Yeah, I mute all I there are so many women that that are muted for real, but like I can't, I I don't know. It's just it's there's something it kind of goes with what you just said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like too much, like yeah, like yeah, for for sure.
SPEAKER_01If you're like jiggling your titties in on Instagram, that's not what I'm going for. That's a beautiful day outside.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just your shoulder struggle. That wasn't the energy. Yeah, that wasn't nothing like that.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. That's a little bit extra. Like, but I'm gonna think you have something if you're doing all that.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Still might fall in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. My gulla blind. Yeah. Uh I think we did it. Yeah, that was quick. All right. Well, um, it's ours two for the culture. We love y'all. We'll be back. Bye. Bye.