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Dye & Golburgh | World Cup Scandals: From Red Cards & VAR to Wikipedia Wars & Messi #79

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In this candid conversation on Two Taps and Friends, host Daniel Rosenberg is joined by his panel—attorney Michael Dye and attorney Lloyd Goldberg—for an unfiltered look at the drama, emotion, and larger questions raised by the World Cup.

From the controversial red card affecting the U.S. team and rumors of political influence, to Lionel Messi’s brilliance, a high-stakes Egypt vs. Argentina match, and an Egyptian coach’s intense reaction, they explore how global competition surfaces deeper themes of fairness, accountability, media narratives, and cultural responses to victory and defeat.

With warmth, real-talk honesty, and thoughtful reflection, the episode examines what it means to compete with passion while maintaining perspective. Ideal listening for sports fans, those interested in human behavior under pressure, and anyone who values authentic dialogue about the stories we tell in high-stakes moments.

⏰ Timestamps ⏰
00:00:00 👋 Intro
1:20 ⚽ The Red Card That Shook the U.S. Team
6:10 🏛️ Trump, FIFA, and the Shadow of Politics
14:30 🇧🇪 The Tough Loss to Belgium and Team USA Reflections
16:46 🌟 Messi’s Mastery and the Egypt vs. Argentina Thriller
23:55 🔥 The Egyptian Coach’s Meltdown: Emotions on Full Display
29:00 📖 Wikipedia Edits, Narratives, and the Spread of Misinformation
36:30 🤝 Cultural Reflections on Accountability and Victimhood
47:00 👋 Final Thoughts, Predictions, and Closing Reflections

Who stands out to you as a true example of greatness in sports, and what qualities make their approach memorable?

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SPEAKER_03

World Cup has been tremendous. And this guy just pulls out a red card from zero to red card.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, I it's like double secret probation.

SPEAKER_03

And then the whole world, Trump, Trump, Trump, he's a bully. He bullied FIFA. Let me tell you something. These are the most corrupt motherfuckers. They are dirty. They're like the mob of the world. Okay. Let me tell you who's not getting intimidated by anybody, okay? It's FIFA. Okay? Leo Messi is by far the greatest player ever. Ever. And I'm a Ronaldo fan.

SPEAKER_02

Changed that referee's Wikipedia page to now make him an Orthodox Jew.

SPEAKER_06

You guys are blaming like Palestinian activists when it was probably my kid trolling online. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02

ChatGBT and all of the AI algorithms grab from the internet, mostly Wikipedia, when they're answering questions.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy. We have the right to win. This is a video of how we teach our kids not to act when you fucking lose a game. Today I have my panel back, Attorney Michael Dye. Hey Danny, and thank you for the sweatshirt. Of course. Attorney Lloyd Goldberg.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Two Taps and Friends. Grab your favorite drink. Get comfy and let's dive into another episode of Two Taps and Friends.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome back to Two Taps and Friends. I'm host of the show, Danny Rosenberg. Uh today I have my panel back, Attorney Michael Dye. Hey Danny, and thank you for the sweatshirt. Of course. Attorney Lloyd Goldberg. Good morning. You got all-time dibs for sweatshirts, both of you guys. But thank you guys for coming back. It's uh been a bit since we were able to record, but again, we're in our temporary studios. The final product is coming soon. It's looking incredible. The team's doing an amazing job getting it together. But we're back in our cozy studio today, and we're here today. We're going to talk about what the world is talking about right now, the World Cup. Um World Cup has been tremendous, uh, especially me as a soccer fan or football fan will tell you. Um we a lot of people in this country don't understand, they they do understand, but they don't get it, because we have other sports that are primary sports in our country. But around the world, this is the sport, and having the World Cup is a huge deal. Having it in three continents is a huge deal. I don't know. I think something's been similar where they did some in Korea. They did things like this before, but nothing where it was like Mexico, Canada. It's just been insane. And I and the turnout and the crowd reaction, it's just been insane. I mean, soccer in the U.S. has taken like it's getting way better than it used to be. Because I remember they moved me to Israel for a few years. That was the whole world, everything was soccer. When you came back here, I'd be like, nobody gives a shit about soccer. It was American football again, right? Like, and they don't make the money here that American football can make. And I don't think they make the money worldwide. I looked up um like you looked up like the richest franchises, right, around the world, and you would think like Real Madrid, Barcelona, but they're like number five and six. The first five are NFL football teams. Isn't that crazy when you think about it? Like the fan base is here, right? Like, I'm sure they have now fans all over the world, but not like that. So it's been wild, it's been crazy. Um, the players have loved being here, from what I hear. All these players are fans, and especially the hate that the US is getting worldwide. I love watching these guys come here and some of them for the first time, shockingly, they get to see our well, this is not the evil empire that we've been right. And honestly, that shit gets on my nerves so bad. The hating on on America, right? And it I think that the world, a lot of them are resentful, probably, that it's here, right? And that like we're getting to get the festive. Like I got when we got to Israel, my cousins and friends over there were like, Yeah, um, what are you doing here, dude? You're you we're we're all trying to get there and you're coming here, right? Like it was it was wild, but I I it it brings us like to you know, the US Day team. You guys have been following, first of all, you guys have been watching the World Cup? Absolutely not. All right, so we know what your position is. You know, I you have your your is the typical, what is it, soccer's gay?

SPEAKER_06

Uh yeah, it's all soccer is women's soccer.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, stop. All right, but you you know what's funny? Like, as much as the Americans we hate on soccer, right? I don't, right? But we still grow up playing soccer. Like, soccer is still a league. People's played soccer, there's soccer teams in high school. What is this gay thing? I don't get that.

SPEAKER_06

It's something that children like all of my kids played soccer. It's something they stopped doing when they were about eight or nine years old. Like when they hit puberty, they stopped playing soccer.

SPEAKER_03

Uh by but that's by your choice. You don't think you're influencing them? So it's time for you to play football, wrestle, you know, do more American things, right?

SPEAKER_06

No, only one of my sons wrestled. One of them ran cross-country, the other one boxed. My daughter is turning being spoiled into a sport.

SPEAKER_03

She can't play sport, she can't play soccer. She doesn't like it.

SPEAKER_06

She doesn't like it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. Yeah, well, the problem is I think the world, I think that's the one thing the world can say is ours. You know what I mean? That's but that's the vibe I get. When that's bullshit, because our players are getting better and better, our team is getting better. Our team was good this year, you know. They didn't perform well in the last game. Did you guys watch that? That was absurd. But that's a whole nother topic for another day. The goalkeeper was not our main guy. I don't know why they had that goalkeeper in there, not to shit on him even more.

SPEAKER_06

I'm sure he's gonna have a tough enough time at the Well, I'm sure he's an awesome goalkeeper just to make him to that le make it to that level. But, you know, it's like there's there's there's levels to things, you know. It's like just because you were awesome in high school doesn't mean you're gonna be awesome at the next level.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the guy that was a goalkeeper last World Cup and uh and is now still on the team, for some reason is not the goalkeeper, and he's really good and like has a huge cool story, like an American story, and all this. I don't know why he wasn't playing. I looked and it's maybe I thought maybe he was injured, but he's on the roster, so I I don't know. That's up to the coach who's a great coach, by the way. Pachatino, he's a big legendary coach. But it brings us to the first scandal. Politics got drug into it, right? Like, you know what it is? Like people, the world hates Trump. Half the Americans hate Trump. So, like, anything with the US gets associated with Trump now, which which sucks. I mean, uh not that I whether you like him or not, it sucks. Why the f why the fuck is everything associated with Trump? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

So, like Well, he inserted himself, didn't he?

SPEAKER_03

He definitely inserts himself, right? Okay, well, that's just what he does. Well, just for the family, right? Yeah. Fulleron uh Balogun is is uh is a striker. If we could pull up that photo, Dan, the U.S. striker. He's a striker for the U.S., he's a fantastic player. Um, he scored most of the goals. We're looking at it on this screen. Can we put it on the back screen too for the for the viewers? All right, so yeah, he scored at that time he'd had like four goals in the World Cup, which is crazy. It's bananas for like a player to have four goals. So he was the best player on the team by far. He was a striker, he was the finisher, and he had a play for those of you that are living under a cave, they had a play where he was going after the ball and he cleated a guy in a leg. Now, technically, when you cleat a person in in soccer, when you cleat a person in the leg and it's intentional and really your foot's not supposed to be there, it technically could be a red card, right? But it's a lot, there's different interpretations of these rules. That's another thing with FIFA. It's very corrupt. The rules are very interpretable. Some people say it's the intention, some people say it's how you place your foot. There's a lot that goes into it, right? But there's now VAR, which is the video review, which we now have in all of our sports, which you could have your opinion one way or another about it. But the the the ref, who is a Brazilian referee named uh Rafael Klaus, if we could pull him up real quick, he didn't make a call on the field at all. No, that's not him. The French dude the Brazilian. The US ref, the red card ref, pull him up. There you go. So he had made no call on the field. They played the foul on the jumbotron, and the crowd, and the guy, the VAR guy, I guess he radios in and says, Hey, you should take a look on this. But generally, from what I understand the rule, if he makes a call and gives a yellow or he cautions or anything, then VAR can go review it to see if it's more egregious. No call was made. All right. They go review it, and this guy just pulls out a red card from zero to red card and throws him out of the game. And that's one thing. But a lot of the Americans didn't even know that when you get a red card, you you miss the next game. You'd be shocked at how many people. Did you guys know that? I knew that.

SPEAKER_06

That's a standard rule for most sports. If you get ejected from uh you're out for the next game, but you'd be surprised how many Americans did not know that.

SPEAKER_03

Because I've talked to so many people, they had no idea. So I was pissed because I'm like, dude, this is some bullshit. They don't want the US to win. I was mad, and then they got a right card. So, you know, I was like typical, I was just getting over it, and then mysteriously, not mysteriously, I mean apparently there's a precedent for it. Like two days before their next uh match was against Belgium, who was a powerhouse team, always has been a powerhouse, I think in the top 15, maybe top 10 even. Um, they make the you all of a sudden the notifications start flaring at ESPN. See, everybody starts, you know, Bologn, uh Balligan is is is uh is back and eligible for the next game. And I'm like, holy shit. Like how'd that happen? That doesn't really happen, but apparently it does. We'll get to that in a minute. So they say he's back, they reviewed it, they suspended his suspension. Have we even seen that in another sport?

SPEAKER_06

Have you I mean I it's like double secret probation.

SPEAKER_03

It's uh but no so FIFA makes the call, so immediately people lose their shit. Belgian really lost their shit. They were the Belgian football club, whatever the fuck club they are, their their association started issuing blistering, nasty comments, and this is a fix and all this stupid shit.

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna investigate this, like the Belgians fucking have Belgians, the Belgians are investigating, right?

SPEAKER_03

So but immediately in our own country, I'm sitting with people that just hate Trump. I have family that hate Trump, family that love Trump, and the family, oh Trump had something to do with this. I'm like, dude, come on! We're like, we go politics already, like we're and then the whole world, Trump, Trump, Trump, he's a bully, he bullied FIFA. And do you guys ever watch any documentaries on FIFA? No, no, let me tell you something. These are the most corrupt motherfuckers, they are dirty, they're like the mob of the world. Okay. Let me tell you who's not getting intimidated by anybody, okay? It's FIFA, okay. So so he came out and he said something, but he didn't say I had him change the card, right? I listened to his statement. Did he say that? What did he say? I don't remember what he said. He came out and said, Oh, you know. He came out and he goes, you know, I didn't even know red cards of suspension. I didn't know that, I didn't know. It's a terrible call, you know, he's doing the typical Trump thing. But he doesn't take credit for it. And let me let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Trump do something that he didn't take credit for?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_03

If he did this, you don't think he would have taken credit for? What's your thought, Codic? Of course he would have, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh. In one way or the other, whether it was with a facial expression or a a direct statement.

SPEAKER_03

Right. So they uh so that comes out, they people lose their shit. Um they he he tries to teach so apparently there's a precedent for it. So Cristiano Ronaldo, he got suspended, he got a red card like right before going into the city.

SPEAKER_06

That's a soccer player. Who? That's a soccer player. Well, you shut up.

SPEAKER_03

So Cristiano Ronaldo.

SPEAKER_06

Pretty one with a you know a pretty haircut. Uh so all the girls, he's like the Oscar Delha. Like all the women like him, but he's not that good. No, he's good.

SPEAKER_03

He's one of the best players in history, right? So he got a red car right before the World Cup. And they used they used this clause. I don't remember the clause. I should have had the clause for the show, but there's a clause that they use saying that we can review any of this, and they did that for him, and they overturned the suspension. So it's not out of the ordinary. But the world went nuts, and it and it because it was the USA, it it just went crazy. It went crazy. Did you guys what was the blowback that you saw, Lloyd, from any of this?

SPEAKER_02

Were you following this as it went along? I didn't follow that nearly as much. Um I was more interested in the you know the fact that again, you know, Trump had something to do with it, whether it was by his, you know, his own doing or by everybody else's doing, which is usually the case. Um I was more you know focused on what happened next. Right.

SPEAKER_03

In the Egypt game. Right. But let me ask you this. Did you where did you get that Trump was involved? Just to can't.

SPEAKER_02

I heard the same thing that Trump had something to do with it. That it was in UNDO, yeah, of course. Right? Right. Just chatter.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I heard it.

SPEAKER_03

And do you think Trump had anything to do with it?

SPEAKER_06

I was led to believe he did, but you're led to believe a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just uh I'm just watching it. Ryan, we got a quick review with a couple episodes.

SPEAKER_06

I'm just watching the news, uh some news clip, and they should it? Yeah, that well, I mean, I don't know if they explicitly said he did it, but it was heavily implied. Yeah, it was uh got it off a drudge report.

SPEAKER_03

If he did, maybe he did. I don't know. Maybe he did. But I it would be nice to like really know things. You know, instead of like just innuendo, right? Nobody even verifies and they just go one way or the other. And that makes us have to say, okay, that's bullshit. Like I don't believe it. Now I just don't believe it just because the way you present it to me, I don't believe it. And it comes from a person that clearly fucking hates Troy, right? And you know what? The crybaby shit gets on my nerves in sports. You know, I was willing to get over the fucking red card, too. You know what I mean? I was over it. Fuck it. We're we're down our player. Let's see what we got. That's what Tom Brady would have done. But that's what's that's the difference. Yeah, let's maybe not a good example.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe not a good example. Well, we can get into that one day. Not today, but that's in the conked.

SPEAKER_03

You know, Tom Brady part never makes its way. Well, I think that's Trump's fault, too, if you ask me. No, so apparently this referee, though, was shady. Did you see about this referee that they're showing? So this referee had a history. He had been subpoenaed to testify in a scandal about red cars in the past. So this is what I'm saying. These people are all fucking shady. Everyone's on the tape. It's just especially the FIFA guys, you know. There's just anywhere there's a lot of money to be had. So anyway, we played almost, yeah. You don't want to know, he's a real weasel. They show him, they show him in the game. He looks like a guy. Just we're not gonna shit on him too much. He might be a nice guy. But from what I hear, he doesn't seem like a nice guy. So so then we lose miserably 4-1 to Belgium. And me show embarrassingly, it was terrible to watch. And listen, kudos to the U.S. team. You guys they played well, you guys played well all the way. That was a fucking tough loss for all of us. But no, the bottom line is we have messy in this country, we have good youth soccer, like we have the uh Premier Leagues on NBC now. I mean, it it's making a push here.

SPEAKER_02

Is it though? Because I feel like it is. You know, I get addicted to the World Cup, but that's because it feels like a NBA playoffs where the level of play is so much greater that you you want to watch. Right. But I've tried to watch just a regular season league game and it's here or Premier League.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even know what league. First of all, that's a big difference. Okay. If you watch the MLS, it's not the level. I mean, that's the problem, is the league here is not the level. Okay. And it's a clear explanation. We all know what the reason why we our best athletes don't go to soccer. The whole time Jake was watching the World Cup, he's like, Yeah, I'd like to see Brunson on that fucking field. Or I wonder if LeBron James could fucking or or Tyreek Hill running up the left side, right? Like we don't have our best, we're in the other rest of the world, our their best athletes go to soccer. So I don't think we'll ever catch up in that sense. And the English league, the Premier League is insane. If you watch that, that's really high-level soccer. The Italian League, the the um Spanish League is probably one of the top ones, too. That makes sense, yeah. So that then you you can see a difference there. So, but but I will say that it's hilarious that the characteristics of a country tend to come out in their team, coach and the way they operate and handle themselves, right? What might you mean? Ah so we get to the Egypt game. Okay, so Egypt played Argentina's Messi, right? One of the most incredible games. Have you did you watch that game? No, I saw the fallout. Listen, have you watched Leo Messi? No, dude. If you watch Leo Messi, Leo Messi is by far the greatest player ever. Ever. And I'm a Ronaldo fan. And I used to be he's the greatest player of all time, okay? He's unbelievable. The guy just paces during the game, and then when you see him, when it goes, he goes. And it's and then he can play 10 more years because he doesn't flop.

SPEAKER_06

No.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they all flop a little bit when it's necessary. They strategically flop.

SPEAKER_06

He was the last one to play soccer.

SPEAKER_03

I I don't know about his like personality and like this, but I'm just saying soccer-wise, he's incredible. Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So Egypt goes up one nothing, which was a shock. Because they're okay, they're a good team, but not Argentina's stacked. They're one of the favors. World championship. And they have the best player in history on their team, and he's scoring goals every game. Like he's doing phenomenal stuff. They go up one-nothing. In the 70th minute, they or 69th, or maybe 79th, even maybe 79th and 90 minutes, but that's that's debatable too. Because it's 90, but then they give extra time. That's the real that's another thing why Americans can't really get down with soccer. Because there's a lot of crazy, stupid shit in soccer. Like only referee decides. Yeah, it's like 90 minutes is officially, but then they get extra time because they don't stop the clock. So every time a guy runs out of bounds, anytime uh the clock doesn't stop, it keeps going. Guy gets hurt, holds, flops, stays not on the field. That's why they flop because they're eating time. And there's no real calculation as to how much extra time you get. It's like a judgment call. So at the end of the game, in 90 minutes, they flash eight minutes. You're like, oh fuck. They got eight more minutes, right? Can you imagine in the basketball games they did that? Like, you're up two, you got 30 seconds. Nope, you got nine minutes and 30 seconds. Right. So in the games, now they do these hydration breaks, which they never did, right? They only did that, I think it's in the States, just liability or some shit. They're worried about us lawyers, you know. Now they stop the game for hydration, but they don't stop the clock. So every game has 10 minutes now, 12 minutes, some crazy shit. So either way, the 79th minute though, second goal, you're down 2-0.

SPEAKER_06

Are they really stopping professional soccer so the players can get their orange slices?

SPEAKER_03

All right. I I can't argue with him on this. I'd be honest with you, I don't like this rule either. It's new. This wasn't always the case. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Okay. Yes, they give them orange slices. I don't know about that. Mysteriously, it's power aid, and then a power aid commercial pops up, too. Because that's another thing with soccer, is because they don't stop the clocks, it's not good for advertisers, right? They have to advertise on the uniform, on the banners, and so now with hydration breaks, they get to put commercials in, right?

SPEAKER_02

So you know why soccer is so unpopular, because it's like all you have to do is just stop the clock. Let's make a new rule, stop the clock, and then you solve all these problems.

SPEAKER_03

Unpopular here, not unpopular around the world, okay? Because apparently bullshit is acceptable all around the world. They're fine with it, and they're used to eating shit. So 79th minute, it's two nothing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And now I'm like, holy shit, they're about to put Argentina out of the World Cup. Well, yes, it's two, it's one-nothing. Two nothing. They scored a second goal. So wait, first it was one-nothing. Yes. Then the the uh there's a foul in the back. Argentina's driving and they foul a player. This is huge. This is what they get the ball, the guy grabs his shirt, throws him down, kicks him on the foot, takes the ball, the Egyptian, runs full fast break, good fast break, boom, boom, boom, they score a goal, 2-0. They're going crazy. I'm like, holy shit. They review it. But this was a legit review. I'm sorry. Like, if you have a foul, now they can stop it at an earlier time, but a lot of times when the play's going, they don't stop at mid-play, especially if it's a backline judge. It takes a minute for them to communicate. So the goal happened, and they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They went and reviewed the back play. They said it was a foul, they called the goal back.

SPEAKER_02

And but this is an interesting point because earlier when you had said that you didn't think that with V A R, V A R could initiate the review, that it had to come from the referee on the field, and that's not what happened. In the first one it was. In no right, but in this one, VAR is the one that radioed and said you need to come take a look. I don't think so. I think he cautioned another thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. I think he cautioned immediately he called something, but they kept going. The play kept going, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right. I might have misheard that lesson.

SPEAKER_02

No, they they called. And look, it's not generally they didn't see a short. I didn't see him pull the shirt. He didn't I did see him step. Go back and look. I saw that it was a legitimate foul, that he did that that the the the Egyptian player did step on the foot, directly on the foot of the Argentinian player. Right. Right? Right. And pulled the shirt from behind. Oh, I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_03

And not only that, if you contrast that to the um stepping on the to the other play where where Balagun the next play? They're going for the ball. No, we'll go back to the USA foul. They're going for the ball. Yeah. There's nobody in play. They're both, there's a ball coming loose. They're going for the ball and they're putting their leg out, and his leg hits the other leg. Yeah. So that's debatable because they're both going for the ball. Right. Okay. And it's not that this player has the ball and you're trying to get the ball. Right. This guy's got the ball. He's got possession. The Egyptian cleats him, pulls him down, starts to fabric and go.

SPEAKER_02

They call the goal back.

SPEAKER_06

Yes. So it was a full fast break happening. It's not something where an Argentinian yanks somebody's shirt. We'll get there. That's next. It's like Yeah, but hold on.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's next. So they that was but that wasn't a foul, though. That wasn't a foul. I agree with you. It wasn't. So they they go down, they get a second goal, they call it back. So the Egyptians go crazy, right? But they get over it real quick because the play restarts. They go and they get an almost identical goal. Beautiful fast break. Egypt scores another goal. I'm like, all right, well, because you know the sports universe tends to be perfect. You know what I mean? Most of the times they fuck up, but if you get a they they get you back later. So they get a 2-0. So now Messi looks pissed, and he just there's no fouls, there's no bullshit, there's no controversy. He comes down, sends a crazy assist, they score a goal. It's 2-1. Comes down, scores a fucking crazy goal, 2-2. Now they're in extra time. Fucking Messi starts a play, they cross the ball. 3-2, they win.

SPEAKER_06

I thought when soccer ended in a tie, everybody won.

SPEAKER_03

No, but it wasn't a tie. The time kept going. Okay. So, and and this this they play to the end here. They go to penalty kicks if they need to. So they win 3-2.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's the craziest comeback. We're all going crazy. Everybody's going crazy. Messi clearly, nothing was handed to him. I watched the guys. So here comes. Yeah, he scored fucking. I mean, he literally couldn't he's 39 years old. I mean, dude. So the Egyptian coach, can we pull up the Egyptian coach? Hosan Hassan, his name is. Okay. Can we pull up the coach? Uh yes, this guy. Hosan Hassan. This guy's a real piece of work, right? Yep. So he loses his shit. At the third goal, doesn't lose his shit at the beginning. He starts a little bit but gets over it. But when he sees the game is lost, he loses his shit. This other guy and uh this other is a backup coach, he's like almost swinging on the ref. He gets red carded immediately. This guy tries to start a fight with Messi on the sideline. It's the craziest shit. Can we play the um the uh the the fight with Messi? The video. Here's a video of it. So this is right after the goal. Messi is like, what's wrong with the fight him? Play it all the way to the end because in the end, just keep playing. In the end, it'll play it again. The fight part. So they're trying to.

SPEAKER_06

That was a fight.

SPEAKER_03

Here, just you can play it with the volume, Dan. No, it was just that they're trying to separate. You can play with the volume, Dan. We keep uh we keep making. Hey, this is the this is that other Egyptian coach. He's losing his mind. He's already red carded this guy. We keep making Dai's argument for him about soccer. Yeah, I know, I know. This is a fight. No, but this is but for them, for a coach to go after a player is insane, right? And there he is, he's still there losing his shit.

SPEAKER_05

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

It'll get to the end here in a minute, and then it'll show the beginning of it again. So this is just after the goal.

SPEAKER_02

And then he's about is this when he started gonna cry racism now? No, not yet. It'll be there in a minute. We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_06

Uh to call this fight gay is an insight.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's not but the point is not a fight. Listen, the point is not the fight. It wasn't a fight. The point is the guy goes after Messi on the field. There's more later. He goes back. Now, this guy, this is the they're losing a shit. Now, this is one thing, fine. You lost your shit on the sideline, but it goes on. Wait.

SPEAKER_06

And at some point he does the international uh symbol for hurt feelings.

SPEAKER_02

It's right, uh yeah, racism. He's it's uh what is it? It's the hurt feeling. You were he's invoking a uh racism clause.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, so now it's racism?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, he's invoking when he does the X.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he's just desperate, he's pulling for anything now.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he's he's arguing that that it's it's racist against the Egyptians. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, so in the end, it's gonna show the beginning again, just him losing his shit right there. Look, he goes after him, he's saying, fuck you, and trying to start a fight. There it is.

SPEAKER_06

Did he say fuck you or did he say it in another way?

SPEAKER_03

He said fuck you, apparently. That's what they say. All right, we can cut that clip. That's good, thank you. Yeah, so then it goes from that to you know, he everybody's like, what an asshole this guy is, and he keeps going, and then like the fight happens after the game, like you know, they like tussles, not the fight that you're looking for, but tussles are happening after the game. So then let's play the coach complaining. And I'll have my commentary about that afterwards. Can you play it with volume? Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Like in a tiger, here in a tiger, here respect, well I respect, well a fair belay today. Uh Mustah in Argentina Bawad, and about this is crazy. I will not watch football. Yeah. In this world cup, there's no fish here. For the fucking baby. Oh my god. Then you also put down by one. It's not watching it. We have the right to win. Shut up in the heard that before. We have the right to win. But we don't feel like that. Alright, we're good, we're good.

SPEAKER_03

So this I see this video, and this literally, this is a video of how we teach our kids not to act when you fucking lose a game. Right. Right? So just a little background on this guy. And it got worse because this guy flew, he like made a point after one game to fly a Palestinian flag, like to hold up a Palestinian flag. Uh-huh. And then in the end, while he's walking off, I don't have a clip of that. I should have brought the clip of that. Uh, someone flashed an Israel flag on him. There's a guy in the crowd, Argentinian fans holding an Israeli flag. He goes after them and then starts a fight, spits at them, and then he tries to start a fight with some random FIFA camera guy. Like goes and gets the guy's a fucking lunatic. All right. First of all, let's talk about his fucking hypocrisy. This is an Egyptian coach talking about Palestinians. Can you flash the Gaza border with Egypt? Let's see their wall. That's the Gaza border with Egypt. Okay. Yeah. They're fucking the biggest hypocrites.

SPEAKER_06

Well, no, there's a difference between the people and the government. Oh, by the way, that's a good country. Okay. You don't know what you're talking about. I wish you'd apply to the person.

SPEAKER_03

Is this a person that's ever been to the region since you were just invited there? Where is your knowledge coming from? We begged him to go. Yeah. Is this Sean Ryan information? Candace Owens?

SPEAKER_02

By the way, this is one of the seven layers of walls they have on that border. Right.

SPEAKER_03

You want to talk about hypocrisy?

SPEAKER_02

So it's between Egypt and Gaza. That's to keep the Palestinians out. Okay. Right.

SPEAKER_03

But you know what it is? This is the problem. All right. So the way that this guy's talking as a coach, he's a piece of shit, first of all. I'm not going to watch soccer anymore. Okay, dude. Don't watch soccer anymore. But then it got crazier, right? Yeah. Because can we flash, talk, talk to me about what happened with the text, and then Dan will put them up. What happened with the coach, with the ref. So the referee.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Oh. The referee that called. Well, so here I am watching the controversy, and I'm thinking to myself, oh, thank God, no Jews involved, right? And I'm like, okay, you know, he he did he said that it was about money and it was about corruption and that Egypt deserved to win. And you know, I don't I don't fault him for his opinions, I just fault him for the things he did said and his behavior. Um But then, of course, you know, much to my uh lack of surprise, the pro-Palestinians who are all already actively completely changing Wikipedia with everything to do with Israel, yeah. Um changed that referee's Wikipedia page to now make him an Orthodox Jew. They did. This is true. This is true. If this is true, you go on Wikipedia and one day you see the guy's profile, and it's like a normal, regular profile, nothing to do with being a Jew. And then the next day, after all of this, all of a sudden his Wikipedia page shows that he's an Orthodox Jew and that it was the Jews' fault, and that's why the Egyptians lost, and that's why this referee, you know, uh made the calls that he did so that Messi and the Jews could win the World Cup.

SPEAKER_04

I can't wait like that, bro.

SPEAKER_02

And then I'm like, ah my God. You know, it's our fault too. Right? Egypt and our there it is. So this is okay, so this is here. This is before, look, before, this is Francois Latier. Right, Let's be generally. Right, born in 1989, a French football referee, this guy's the most Jewish guy in the world. Right, been around 19 years. Look at this guy. He'd be wearing an SS uniform if eight years ago. Look at that haircut. So then if we can see, you know, the day after. Yeah, can you show what is this one? Here's the day after. Egyptian fans blame Zionism for the war. Yeah, yeah, we did that too. And then his Wikipedia page was edited to claim that he was Jewish. If you could split that one, there it is. Look, look, look, look, look. Look. French professional football referee comes from an Orthodox Jewish family. His grandfather fought. Oh, they produced some Nazi parties. Right, and fought along free French forces during World War II. Completely fake. All fake, right? Right. Now here we go. The French referee took charge of the round 16 between Argentina and Egypt on Tuesday, was changed this week to state that he is Jewish, leading Egyptian fans to blame Israel, Jews, and Zionism for their team's loss. So, you know, let them keep doing this because the the dumber it gets, the more pervasive this bullshit is, you know, the quicker we'll get to where everybody finally realizes that. I don't think they ever will. Well, they're not only because they don't want to.

SPEAKER_06

The problem is you guys are blaming like Palestinian activists when it was probably my kid trolling online.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, no, actually By the way, this is a this is a phenomenon that everybody should really understand. This is serious. This is a phenomenon that everybody should know. That is just scary right now. A concerted effort to change Wikipedia to whitewash everything that that is Israeli and make everything anti-Zionist. It's a big problem because uh most people get their information from Wikipedia. They think that it's they think it's real, they think it's real, and uh Chat GBT and all of the AI algorithms grab from the internet mostly Wikipedia when they're answering questions. That's crazy. So even the information now that you're getting from AI is come is completely bastardized by the pro-Palestinian crowd. This is a phenomenon. You can look it up. This is Yeah, but it does start that because way it's gone way up to the city. No, because they keep track of the editors. So if you go in and you look and you see the the people that are doing the editing are all the same people.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so listen, it's it's one of the black screening for fortune. Trolling is one thing, but this is to a level of a sustained misinformation campaign, dude. It's different. So it's fortune. It's okay. First of all, it's it's funny because I'm laughing because you're such a dickhead, I'm laughing, right? But it's not funny in the sense that it's just it's so amateur and done. You know what it'd be funny if it was just a troll and everybody saw it it was a troll, but people believe it. Right. Well, that that's the whole point. That's not the whole point of trolling. A trolling is just fucking with somebody for because it's funny, right? That's not changing. That's trolling. But you're making a narrative, you're pushing a dangerous narrative to try to isolate a certain people, and it works. And you do it, they're doing it because it works. For listeners and viewers, I Wikipedia, I can edit. I can go and edit anyone's Wikipedia right now. So I go to Wikipedia, I'm guilty of it. I go to Wikipedia, I'm like, oh, let me see about this guy. That's the first place I go and I read. But I know that you can edit it, so I don't really know what I don't. It's crazy. There's no verification for anything. You can't, you can't verify anything anymore. Right. And now even fucking videos. If you play a video, people tell you it's AI. If you show a photo, they tell you Photoshop. It's like, where do we believe that's a good idea? This isn't simple trolling. What's AI and what's not? You're talking about putting fucking like fucking devil ears on someone. We're talking about literally trying to make all people devils.

SPEAKER_06

You saw what the people from 4chan did when they made up that little flyer, like African American customers will be charged to surcharge at this McDonald's for armed a string of armed robberies. And they almost had a riot outside the McDonald's.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but that's fine. But that's an Okay, but if that happened all the time, every day with every issue, after a while you'd have to address it, would you not?

SPEAKER_06

So that's not rolling anymore. I'll give you an example.

SPEAKER_03

I'll give you an example. You're dancing around the topic, though. It's 4chan, dude. Just because you think everything is funny, that was fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_05

I I I asked Chad G. In the fact that you're worked up about it, some nerd on 4chan. I'm not worked up about it. The nerds on 4chan are like, look at this guy, dude.

SPEAKER_02

This is completely it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03

It somehow gets blamed on the Jews. The World Cup loss, Egypt's loss to Argentina was the Jews' fault. Right.

SPEAKER_06

That is a typical 4chan type troll. And they did a great job.

SPEAKER_03

You're the funny. You justify. You love this shit. It's you have no you're you ran out of room here, dude. It's all bullshit.

SPEAKER_06

It's 4chan. This is 4chan. That is not 4chan.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, I bet you we could do a dive right now and figure out who it was. You know what I mean? There's little accounts. It was just frog. You know how many accounts when we say anything about Jews, I get we get blistered on comments. And it's I go look and it's a guy with one subscriber or one user or 10 friends or three. It's a sustained bot campaign. These people, they're not like the one guy, I remember doing the whole Gaza thing. The one guy's, oh, I just heard a bomb outside my window. Oh, and people's like, dude, you got internet the whole fucking time, right? And he's like, Oh, I got one piece of bread, and the guy's gaining weight every post. Like, yeah. And then it turns out the guy was in Turkey, the guy was in fucking, you know, Canada. You know what I mean? It's all bullshit. So it's like this, but you know what is back to the Egypt coach, all right? It I don't want to insult the whole culture, but I'm probably about to, okay? The culture or of these this kind of country, I'm not saying all countries, right? Because there's some countries, like I think a lot of Arabic countries are coming around, but the culture is not one of, hey, we lost, let's man up and move on, right? We jump, four countries jump Israel, they lose, yeah. Nokba, they make up some shit. There's some victimhood that and if people say the Jews are forever victims. No, the Jews are getting persecuted, they constantly are getting persecuted. They're not playing a victim card, you're doing it, right? But this is typical. This is typical.

SPEAKER_02

They use victimhood to their advantage. This behavior is. We want to be left the fuck alone.

SPEAKER_03

We're condoning the world is condoning this behavior where we raise our kids. Don't fucking act like that. If I ever have an employee blame another employee, I don't want to hear that shit. I I want the problem solved.

SPEAKER_02

We don't need to raise our kids that way. We raised our kids that way. I don't know what's going on here. I'm saying, no, but I don't even think it's like the old days when, you know, if I got in trouble in school, I was afraid of my mother. Right. You know, my mother would my mother would call the teachers, you know, and she'd be like, You let me know if they misbehave. Right. You know, now it's like, don't touch my son. Right. It's all different.

SPEAKER_03

That's true. That's true to an extent. But like this blame what that's the problem, is the culture is scary that the culture, and maybe it's a fact, it's our country now too, because look at all the shit we're buying. Like, it's would you if your kid took a loss and came home and just blamed everybody else but himself? It's happened. I know, but do you accept that? No. Do you think that's good behavior? No. It doesn't matter, even if it was somebody else's thing. Like that coach, you don't think that guy has the ability to come up and say, listen, questionable calls, but you know, Argentina played a great game. Can't do it. I'm not watching football. The rest of the World Cup. Racism. Right. And then racism. Like that, come on, man. You know?

SPEAKER_06

This is, I mean, my thoughts on it. I wrestled in high school in college. And a lot of people, and in this country, you know, there's there's a difference between being good at high school and being good in college, and there's a difference between being good in college and being elite on a world level.

SPEAKER_07

Of course.

SPEAKER_03

You're calling this passion. Are you gonna defend this fucking asshole right now? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06

Like I've I've seen ass outs. Like, I mean, not I never saw anybody blaming the Jews. You never? We see it every day. Not at a wrestling tournament.

SPEAKER_03

You've been guilty of it too. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_06

Not at a wrestling tournament. Okay. So, you know, stay tuned. I've seen people ass out. I've seen coaches ass out. You know, it's i the the guy you you gotta understand that this guy has worked his entire life to not necessarily completely, because he was wrong. But the guy has worked his entire life to put his team in this position, and then he goes ahead and he's up to nothing. He's like, holy shit, we're gonna do it. Yeah. And then that that all just gets snagged away from you at the last thing. And that is that's an emotional.

SPEAKER_03

By the best player in the world.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but that's still an emotional uh hundred percent agreed. But the way he handled it was wrong, but at the same time, I've seen people ass out for a lot less.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there's no question. Well, that's we're talking about him right now in this situation.

SPEAKER_02

And that's what I said earlier. I don't I don't have a problem with his emotions. I don't have a problem with him thinking he got robbed. There's nothing wrong with that. Right. But you lead by example, you know, and a leader doesn't act that way, and if he does, then that's you know an example of the way that his people are gonna be.

SPEAKER_06

This is w one of the big problems that I have with soccer, and it's just an example of it. All right. At the end, you know, they have five FIFA, FIFA, whatever they're called.

SPEAKER_03

FIFA. You're getting close, you're getting better at this.

SPEAKER_06

Uh, you know, you you can do the sign for hurt feelings, like somebody's you know, being racist, and you know, they've they've got to stop the the thing. And so the rules are that if you're in the sign.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, they're throwing trash at Vinicius Jr. and calling him making monkey noises, Michael. Okay, that's not it's beyond hurt feelings.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so no, the Egyptian song, the Egyptian coach said my feelings are hurt. The referee had to stop everything. They have to go to a video.

SPEAKER_03

No, they didn't. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_06

That was just no, they did not. I watched a whole thing on the in that game? Uh, yeah, for the uh for the hurt feelings. All right, I watched a whole thing on it. The referee, I'm gonna be honest with you, from what I saw. Now, look, this might be uh according to you guys, this might be a uh Palestinian who's just sticking up for buttons. I didn't say Palestinian. I didn't say that one time.

SPEAKER_03

You're talking about the guy changing Mexican? Wait, you're taking you're talking about the guy changing the wiki.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no. I'm talking about the the podcast that I watched on the rules of soccer.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but no, you're talking about the Palestinian. You said you're talking about we think the Palestinians are the one changing the wiki.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no, I'm talking about this podcast. I don't know what you don't know what ethnicity this guy was or anything like that. He might be an anti-Zionist. But he might be there were three specific and he didn't mention being the ref being Jewish at all.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

There were three specific incidents that he showed where the referee did not properly enforce the rules uh again in favor of Argentina against Egypt.

SPEAKER_03

Michael.

SPEAKER_06

And so the guy, the guy does have a I think the Egyptian coach does have a legitimate beef.

SPEAKER_03

You didn't watch the game.

SPEAKER_06

Uh you're right. But I saw the three incidents and they explained the rule, and I was like, okay, if that's true, then he has a legitimate beef.

SPEAKER_03

Michael, I could play any World Cup game right now.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just we'll stop. I could play, I could play any World Cup game and I could isolate 50 plays where I would say that the refs call is questionable. We could do it in basketball, we could do it in baseball, we could do it in football, but that's part of the game. Right. I agree. To rise to the level of their fucking uh singling out Egypt.

SPEAKER_02

One of my favorite things is when after an NFL football game is over and there's a bad call that changed the outcome of the game, and the losing team says, you know what? Calls happen. We shouldn't have been in a position where one bad call cost us. They blame themselves. I love it when they when they respond. Maybe they don't really feel that way, but Republicans do that?

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_06

One of the things they always tell you in wrestling is never complain that you weren't pinned. If you were on your back, that's on you. That's your problem.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_06

All right. Right. So you can't say, oh, the representative.

SPEAKER_02

About the rule. Under the black letter of the law for the for the rule on the on the call that was overturned, that was a foul. And they had a right to review it. It's just a bad rule because it happened all the way at their own end. And because the possession changed, and it didn't change again. Right, all the way up until the time they scored, the rule allows you to review it at the beginning of the change of possession and the attack. So the attack began back there, but it's still a judgment call either way. And that's what sucks. So the rule so that's why I believe that that first call was the right call. It should have been stopped earlier. It sucks, you know, um, but under the letter of the of the rule, it was the right call. Now the second non-call, the one that you thought was not a foul, it was the one against EJ where I was uh right.

SPEAKER_03

That one, you know, like even when they replayed it, the the commentator goes, Oh, there's nothing there immediately. And he's not biased. But they didn't but but the wasn't Salais is his name? Salah. Oh Salah Mohammed Salah.

SPEAKER_02

Wasn't he asking for V A R and they were they were rejected? He's a player.

SPEAKER_03

What does that mean? They all ask. Every time anything happens, they ask. No.

SPEAKER_02

So I think that was the other thing that they were upset about, is that they, you know, VAR got involved in the first call, but not on the second, on not on the non-call.

SPEAKER_06

The other thing I wanted to bring up is, you know, the Egyptian coach bringing out the Palestinian flag. I always think it's kind of stupid when athletes want to get into politics. I agree. It's like, you know, dribble the ball, LeBron. All right? Yeah, and like remember LeBron saying that he could beat up Colby Covington. Yeah. That was like, okay. Uh but you know Madonna, sing and act like a slut. Okay, that's what you do. Oh, it's just a good thing. And you know, don't don't don't tell me who to vote for. I don't like it when athletes get involved in political shit at all. But I also object when the fans interject themselves into the you know, fucking with the players. So whoever the jackass was that decided to hold up the Israeli flag. Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_03

He was in the stand. He has a problem with that. He has a problem with that.

SPEAKER_06

You're antagonizing a professional athlete. He's not an athlete. He's not an athlete. Don't be surprised if they spit in your face. The internet Yeah, I wasn't so mad about that. Here's the thing with Mike Tyson, the brilliant philosopher Mike Tyson, once said that the internet has gotten people far too comfortable with talking about the stuff.

SPEAKER_03

I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. But then at the same time, on the other hand, you're defending the trollers.

SPEAKER_02

So you go to you go to a football game, football, yeah, and there's flags of all kinds, right? Everybody has their flag. Right. We are we just gonna brush over the fact that the Israeli flag is antagonistic? Of course. When you when you're holding it right there, when it's coming by you, they were antagonizing it in the stands. They were antagonists holding up their flag in the stance.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. Listen, I'm not so mad at him. Him spitting on the spitting towards them, that just shows me I don't like this motherfucker. But he they were waving this. That's a fair point. You're right. Fine. That's a fair point. But that's not why that's why I didn't play that clip. Right. Because I didn't think that that was a real thing. Spitting Whatever.

SPEAKER_02

He's they are trying to antagonize losing his, by the way, in his defense, he didn't spit at anyone.

SPEAKER_03

He spit like, you know, on the uh he's just but the guy I the behaviors were picked up. It was just like a slip. Right. But anyway, we gotta wrap this up. Any f parting thoughts on soccer and the World Cup? Any predictions? Uh I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_06

All soccer's women's soccer. What do you do? Any predictions?

SPEAKER_03

France? Yeah. I I think France just beat Morocco. Um I'm going to the Norway-England game, which is gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Morocco blamed the uh did you see what happened in the North American?

SPEAKER_03

I saw that wasn't Morocco. That was fans blaming the Netherlands.

SPEAKER_02

They were they were Moroccan fans in the Netherlands.

SPEAKER_03

I saw it's a shame because Morocco is a great country. I've been there. The government's actually very, very reasonable. Most of the people are very reasonable. So there's a couple assholes. That's a couple of assholes. I'll tell you just from my because I can say that from personal experience. You know, you're Moroccan, aren't you? I was my my mother's side was Moroccan. Right. I thought I went there and I sat with a white uh colonizer. No, no. Exactly. Right. So I I went and I was in the culture there, and I know the people, a lot of them. So like not a lot. I mean, I I I was with the people for a couple weeks and I got a good feel for those people. Morocco's always been a little bit more than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not that one, I'm not really more modern.

SPEAKER_03

And they, you know, they I'm not even gonna that was just a bunch of asshole fans, but you know, it's a shame. But I don't know. I think that it I I think it'll be uh Argentina versus France. I think that can work out that way, and that would be incredible to see France playing them. But it's fun. I'm going to the game. I'm going to Norway versus England Saturday. It's gonna be crazy Norwegian fans. That's another thing. We're like embarrassed of our culture right now, right? The Norwegians, they're like doing the Viking row, right? Like we raped and pillaged. That's us fuckers. You wanna play us? Come play us. I love that. They like I love the fact that you own your culture, all right? In the bad, the good, just own your fucking culture. So, but that's it. Um thank you guys for coming on. We'll be having you guys on, I'm sure, again, for other topics. There's a lot of shit going on. Yes, sir. Thank you to all listeners of yours for watching, two taps and friends. Uh, please like, subscribe to the channel. If you like, subscribe to the channel, it gives us more outreach, it's gives us more views, we can bring more guests on, more panels, we can talk more things. Uh, you follow us everywhere. We're on Instagram, we're on YouTube, we're we're on uh Facebook. We're uh we we've got a lot of viewers and and and subscribers now. It's it's going great. We appreciate the fanhood, we appreciate everything you guys do. We love you all. We'll see you guys soon. Goodbye. Cut