Ocean vs. River Cruises

Join us as we explore the key differences between ocean and river cruising. 

Discussing our personal experiences on both types of cruises, we highlight the stark contrasts in amenities, entertainment, dining options, and overall atmosphere. Curious about the typical layout of a river cruise ship? Listen to find out what it is! 

Our conversation delves into the unique features of each cruise type, from the spa options to dining, how river cruises are priced, the a la carte pricing nature of mega-ship ocean cruises, the demographic differences, and the ease and annoyance of excursions on river versus ocean cruises. 

You'll gain insights into what to expect from both cruise options, helping you decide which experience is best for your next vacation.

During the episode, we mention the following resources: 

• Ocean vs. River Cruises extensive article on our website, Sometimes Sailing.
• Our experience in MSC Yacht Club in terms of not feeling like one of 5,600 passengers, thanks to the Yacht Club's 320 passenger capacity (exact #s vary based on the ship).
• Our Douro River Cruise experience with Viking.
• The food at Enchanté and Palo on Disney Cruise Line ships. 
• Dining at Luminae, part of Celebrity Cruises The Retreat ship-within-a-ship suites category.
• You likely won't buy an Omega aboard a river cruise ship, but you can buy a luxury watch on a mega-ship, which has lots of onboard shopping. 
• Motion sickness is very unlikely on a river cruise, but we always travel prepared with all the sea sickness remedies on mega-ships and expedition cruises! 
• River cruises seem expensive, but the

Chapters

• 1:37 Fundamental Differences Between Ocean and River Cruising
• 3:20 Onboard Amenities
• 4:56 Dining Experiences: Quantity & Quality
• 9:22 Spa Facilities
• 10:30 Additional Thoughts about Entertainment
• 12:17 Different Shopping Experiences
• 15:04 Onboard Laundry
• 16:00 Motion Sickness Considerations
• 17:18 Ship Design and Cabin Layout
• 19:46 Embarkation and Disembarkation
• 22:50 Excursions and Itinerary Differences
• 25:44 Cruise Price Value
• 27:33 Demographics and Onboard Atmosphere
• 30:36 Is Ocean or River Cruising Better?

Transcript

Mikkel (00:34)
Welcome to Small Ship Cruise Talk. We are back. We are on episode three, Ocean versus River Cruises. I am super excited about this episode. It is something that naturally comes up in conversation very often when we're talking with fellow cruisers on an ocean ship or fellow cruisers on a river ship.

We talk about it with friends, we talk about it with families. So I, for one, am very excited about this. During episode one, we discussed small ship cruising and briefly discussed what a small ship is compared to your typical ocean cruise ship that has 4,000 plus passengers versus much less on a river cruise ship.

which usually has less than 200. So episode two went even further into the top three small ship cruising options, which were yacht, barge, and river cruising, which is pertinent to today, of course.

Dan (01:37)
Today's focus is the fundamental differences between ocean and river cruising. Now they are two completely different experiences. The only thing they really have in common is both of them are floating vacations.

Mikkel (01:48)
Yeah,

that's true. that, Dan, is never as stark of a contrast and in our faces as when we go on back-to-back cruises, which we've done recently. For whatever reason, how our travel schedules work out, it happens more often than not. So, for example, we went on MSC Seashore in November, followed by a Viking river cruise two days later on the Douro River in Portugal.

And that was going from a ship with over 5,600 passengers overall and 320 in the MSC Yacht Club, which we were in, which was still more than the passengers on Viking Torgil, which had a capacity of 106 guests. So we really had that yin and yang experience in our faces, in our eyes, and fresh in our minds from ocean versus river cruising.

Dan (02:40)
Yeah, and then we very recently, like last week, just got off the AmaMagna with a maximum capacity of 196 guests. But a week prior to that, we were on Disney's Fantasy with a 4,000-person guest capacity. So that's, you know what, more than 20 times the amount of guests?

Mikkel  (02:59)
That's wild. To think you could fit 20 AmaMagna guest passengers comfortably in Disney Fantasy is just like, mind-blowing. And then, you know, of course the Fantasy is huge. So you would have plenty of space to sashay through the hallways, as you know, I like to test out just in case nobody's looking and I dance. Anyway, so let's get right into it.

Dan (03:20)
As we're jumping into it, you've got to think about amenities. That's what comes to mind first for me. On the ocean cruises, you've got multiple restaurants, bars, entertainment venues. You have casinos. You've got large scale shows, even water parks or water slides, you know, like basketball courts, spa facilities, shopping, galleries, shuffleboard... you name it. You can find it on a big ship.

Mikkel (03:48)
They're built for entertainment. So you bring up an excellent point. A lot of people who are used to ocean cruising often say to us, well, what can I do on a river cruise ship? What do I do at night? What is there for entertainment?

And we're very honest, there's not a lot of entertainment. The entertainment is the bar at night. It is going to bed. It is your television. It is getting off the ship if you're docked overnight to explore the town. But honestly, unless you're in a big city, they're pretty sleepy and there's not a lot to do at night in some of these cities. 

If you're in Lisbon, of course, go out at night. If you're in a small town along the Douro River, they're closed, you know, there's not going to be a lot going on at night. It depends on the time of year. Maybe in July, there is, but maybe in November, there isn't. There's no water park on a river cruise ship.

There might be the amenity of a pool, but not every river cruise ship has that. There's certainly no casinos. So that is a great first example of a difference that is definitely, if not in your face, on your daily navigator or whatever daily schedule your cruise line is putting out.

What about in terms of restaurants?

Dan (04:59)
Big ships, you're gonna have plenty of options and you're most likely gonna be able to eat 24 hours a day. So if you want ice cream, you'll most likely be able to find it, pizza at midnight, or you can drink your breakfast, however you want to ingest your calories, you can do it on a big ship.

Mikkel (05:06)
Yes, hahaha. Well said. And to that point, you want to eat your heart out, then you can also work out after on an ocean ship. I can't think of a single time we've been on an ocean ship where there hasn't been an extensive gym or fitness center. Whereas we've been on many river cruise ships that don't have a gym or don't have any sort of workout classes. Some do, Emerald does. They are very focused on wellness, but you can also go for a walk on the shore really easily because you're not gonna have a day at sea the next day. 

There's kind of no such thing on river cruises, but we can get into the itineraries a little bit later in this episode. But the food is definitely a highlight. It's a highlight on river cruising, and I have to say, typically, I've experienced with you that the river cruising food is a little better. It depends on the restaurant on a big ship. We've certainly had incredible meals like at Disney's Enchante. People love Palo on Disney Cruise Line. We found that to be good, not outstanding. It is good, though. But just two examples. 

Even Luminae, part of The Retreat on Celebrity Cruises, was really, really good. I remember some standout dishes there. There were some highs and lows, which I find is very typical of any cruise.

There have been small ship cruises, specifically in this case talking about river cruising, that just consistently has better food. So I think with less people, you're getting better quality food. What do you think in terms of that since we're on all these cruises together?

Dan (06:54)
It's just sheer numbers. When you're producing dinner for 3,000 people, it's going to tax your kitchen and it's going to just tax the waitstaff. That's a lot. But if you're preparing dinner for 150 people, that's you can have a little bit more time to pay attention to details.

Mikkel  (07:14)
And that can happen in the plating as well. And that's not to say any one is better than the other. But I think at the heart of it, our point with ocean versus river cruising is that you're going to have more options. You definitely have quantity of options for dining venues on ocean ships. 

And river ships, you want to look at the deck plan and understand the river cruise line you're going on for how many dining options there are. Now, surprisingly, the first couple of times we were river cruising, I was surprised that you're fine, you know, with one dining venue. You don't really get bored of it the way you think you will. 

You just know there's not another option and that's where you're going to have all your meals. In subsequent cruises, we've realized, you know, Viking has the Aquavit Terrace, which is kind of a nice change of scenery. AmaWaterways - we just got off of AmaMagna that is double the width of a regular river cruise ship on the Danube River - and there was four dining options on that ship. So they really vary with smaller ships. You have one option on a lot of ships. You certainly don't have 10, 20 dining options like you do on ocean cruise ships. But I will say with that is there's no upsell to a dining experience on a river cruise ship. They're all included.

So whereas you have to pay for signature dining on an ocean ship, let's say, you know, like we were on MSC recently and the sushi restaurant costs an additional amount. Well, you're not going to get an additional charge on a river cruise ship because it's all included. 

And another thing with that is there's no upsell and drinks packages for the most part. This is not true across the board. Viking notoriously has a Silver Spirits package, which is their drinks package, or you can pay a la carte per drink. You can also bring wine on board. know, we cruised on Viking in Bordeaux and were able to bring a bottle on board and we drank it in our room on the balcony, or you can drink it in the lounge. So that's kind of another option.

Whereas ocean ships make a lot of money on their drink packages.

Let's talk about the spa facilities on an ocean ship versus a river cruise ship. I will take the ocean ship topic and, because we've had some massages and such on river cruises, I'm send it your way to talk about river cruise ships. 

On ocean ships, the spa is an attraction in itself a lot of the time, whether it's the Princess Enclave or Senses on Disney. It really is a great place to spend hours or half the day. They have a whirlpool, you have various treatment rooms, you can get teeth whitening. We've seen barbershops, nail salons, all sorts of things. River cruise ships are just entirely different.

Dan (10:06)
They're much more intimate. So you may have one or two massage rooms and that's probably about it. The services are definitely going to be more limited also. On Riverside, you can get a haircut and that's not to say every river cruise you can get a haircut or get a blowout or something like that. 

Dan (10:23)
It really varies, but your selection is going to be much more limited on a small ship than you would in ocean.

Mikkel  (10:30)
And you mentioned this before, I want to go back to touching on the shows. On a lot of ocean ships, they have these huge productions. And that's great and that's something that I love about ocean ships. The expectation has to be different for river cruise ships. On river cruise ships, the entertainment is minimal, and it's usually local.

Dan (10:52)
They do a great job of really bringing on talent from the areas that you are visiting. And it gives you a slice of maybe the city or town that you're gonna visit the next day.

Mikkel (11:03)
So, an example, we were in Portugal, and they brought on Flamenco dancers the day that we were in Salamanca, which is actually in Spain, the neighboring country. So that was really fun. It's also very popular to bring on a brass band with trumpets, a French horn, or what have you, for a German or Austrian band when you are cruising on the Danube River. That's kind of a fun one.

Dan (11:30)
On the Mekong, they had traditional Cambodian and Vietnamese dancers and singers come on board.

Mikkel  (11:35)
Yeah, that was really fun.

Dan (11:38)
On the Mekong, when we sailed with AmaWaterways, there was an added bonus of the crew talent show one night.

Mikkel (11:45)
Oh my god, that was amazing. I love that you're bringing this up.

Dan (11:49)
So that was a great way for the crew to highlight their personality, but also really interact with us, the guests, and there was a lot of laughs.

Mikkel (11:59)
A lot of laughs, a lot of lip syncing to English songs, a lot of props development with very innovative things like a mop they took and repurposed it to be part of a guitar. You know, that was great. I really loved that AmaDara experience on the Mekong.

So the entertainment's a little different, but it's really smart and both experiences are fulfilling. They're just different. Another thing that is really different about ocean and river cruising is the shopping onboard. So on a river cruise ship, the shopping is a small, small station, I would call it. I would say...

It's not even bigger than a walk-in closet is the biggest we've ever seen. On AmaMagna, they had some local things. They had beer steins. They had some beautiful scarves and such for sale. They had a lot of AmaMagna-branded apparel. So long sleeve jackets, vests, scarves, gloves, that kind of thing. They had some really pretty jewelry and some other mementos that you could take home.

On Viking, we've seen some of the popular things like the bread basket, which I know sounds really funny, but people ask about the bread basket in the dining room. So it is available to purchase. There are some books that you can purchase and, again, apparel from Viking. 

So these are just like the kinds of things, but expect the shop to be a couple of displays and no bigger than a walk-in closet, a normal size small walk-in closet.

Dan (13:33)
Right, you're not going to buy an Omega watch or pre-owned Rolex or anything like that on board.

However, on ocean and on a bigger ship, you're going to have all the shopping you can possibly want and more. So you'll have the opportunity to buy those branded items such as hats and t-shirts and things like that. But also, you're going to have big brands on board, like Bulgari or Omega.

On a river or smaller cruise, maybe you forgot sunscreen, you probably aren't going to be able to purchase that on board and you'll just have to purchase that in town or in the next port.

Mikkel (14:14)
Yeah, and it's so easy because as we've discussed before on this podcast, you are able to be in the center of the city when the river cruise ship goes to the port. So a store, whether it's a pharmacy or kind of a convenience store, is right around the corner, potentially. So that's why they don't have sundries on board on a river cruise ship like, your acetaminophen or stomach pills or what have you, like Dan said. 

Whereas on an ocean ship, they have a shop that is part of the shopping that you can get that. And guest services probably has a lot of that stuff as well. Guest services might have toothbrushes and stuff on river cruises. We've never forgotten our toothbrush, so we don't necessarily find ourselves taking advantage of that. 

I'm just going to mention this really briefly, too, in terms of needs like a laundry facility. A lot of the time on river cruise ships, can send your laundry out to be laundered, but it's more rare that you'll find a laundry facility that the guests can self-service and do their own laundry. Not impossible - depends on the ship. We love when there is one and really appreciate it because then we can happily pack in our carry-on only, which we do 90 % of the time, and pack knowing that we're going to do laundry. Whereas on an ocean ship there is very often a guest services laundry facility. Not always, but especially on the newer ships, we find more and more there is that option. 

But let's move on to motion sickness considerations because we touched on kind of the drugstore on board and what you're able to get. So Dan, talk to me briefly about the motion of the ocean and stability on the rivers.

Dan (16:00)
So rivers, you're not really going to feel too much the movement of the ship. Whereas on ocean, you're definitely going to feel it, depending on itinerary, depending on weather conditions, all of that. But as a general rule, river cruising is going to be much, much more stable than ocean.

And this is something that's very near and dear to my heart because on ocean, I get seasick and I've never gotten seasick on a river cruise.

Mikkel (16:24)

And we are always sure that both of us, because once in a while I'll get a little dizzy or motion sickness sets in, we make sure that we pack a variety of seasickness remedies. We will link that in the show notes, but we have our Blisslets, we have a relief band, we have motion sickness patches, the stickers that go behind your ear and by your belly button if you're gonna put two on. They actually work really well. 

We also have non-drowsy Dramamine and Bonine, and so we have a bunch of things that we pack. Whereas we don't even think about it when we go on a river cruise. We actually have needed motion sickness medication more so for very windy bus rides through, you know, wine regions more than we need it on the river cruise ship. 

But with that in mind, I'm thinking about the architecture of how the ship is actually built so talking about the ship design and the size differences.

Of course, if you have 4,000 to 6,000 passengers versus 180 passengers, the ship is going to be wildly different in its design, but also in its bottom. So the bottom of a river cruise ship is flat to accommodate that type of waterway. Whereas the hull of a ocean ship (I'm not gonna pretend to be an engineer or anything) but more so comes to a point. 

I don't love the technical details of this kind of thing. I'm also a photographer and don't want to talk about math with photography all day, but I did think it was worth touching on that the design of the ship is different. 

But let's get into something a little more interesting in the design of the ship, and that is the difference in where the cabins are on a river cruise ship. So on an ocean ship, inside cabins are always a more affordable option because you don't have the view. Then you have your ocean view. Then you have your balcony or veranda staterooms. Then you have your obstructed ones that cost a little less but are a little more than inside cabins. You have so many different views on an ocean ship - your head could spin. 

On a river cruise ship, it's really easy. 99.9 % of the time the cabins are facing outward towards the river. There are no inside cabins.

Dan (18:40)
Right. The way to think about it is it's one hallway with rooms off of one hallway, whereas your major ocean, it's two hallways, so you've got that inside stateroom that's possible.

Mikkel (18:52)
Yeah, that's a great, very easy way to think of it. I love how you stated that. 

And also the amount of decks. So an ocean ship, we've seen upwards of 13 decks. You you can get lost. It takes days to get used to the map of the ship. And we are constantly looking at whatever map we can find by the elevators to understand we are. We're looking at the carpet for whatever the cruise line has to indicate which arrows or stars in the carpet are facing towards the front, which is the port side and what is the starboard side. And then on river cruises...

Dan (19:28)
...river cruises are pretty easy and that is forward and back.

Mikkel (19:34)
You can literally see the direction from anywhere you're standing of where you're sailing. You get to know the ship within minutes of being on board and there's never more than three or four decks.

Dan (19:43)
Yeah, because it's so small, embarkation and debarkation is simple on a small ship. You're probably going to carry on a few items yourself, but the crew will also help you bring your luggage on board. It's almost just like checking into a hotel and they hand you the key and then you are shown to your room, and you can immediately start unpacking. I mean, it's literally two to five minutes and you're in your room.

Mikkel  (20:13)
You are really hitting it with the analogies today. I love it. 

It is exactly like checking into a hotel - even faster. Imagine a hotel that doesn't have a line because service is at the top of their priorities on river cruises.

One thing I love about river cruises is that you don't even have to go through security, which I understand why it has to happen on a big ship. You just never know if somebody even accidentally is bringing their knife on board that they forgot to leave at home, especially if they're driving to the port. You have to go through metal detectors, maybe even twice. You have to check in multiple times, have a QR code.

You don't have any of that with a river cruise ship. You walk on, like Dan said, you give them your name, they bring the luggage to your room. You're not taking off your belt to go in through a metal detector. It is very easy. 

You are given a welcome that's very personal and shown to your room. And that really helps with disembarkation at the end of your cruise, especially if you need to get to the airport for an early flight. We had to leave at 3:30 in the morning recently for a six o'clock in the morning flight from Budapest. 

So we really, really appreciate that about river cruising. With that experience, you reminded me of one of the things I absolutely despise about ocean cruising. And I am sure somebody listening out there can relate. 

I do not like how long we need to wait on a big ocean ship to get off the ship for an excursion. It could take upwards of over an hour to sit in whatever theater or auditorium to get your group sticker for your excursion. And what's even worse is that sometimes you have to tender to the shore. 

So now you could potentially waste an hour to two hours getting off the ship to go on your excursion. I would say that this tendering situation and debarkation just for an excursion is my nemesis. On river cruise ships, what's our experience like? It's amazing.

Dan (22:21)
No, you just walk off. You scan your card and or even on the smallest of the small ships we just like moved a magnet over underneath our name indicating that we're off the ship.

Mikkel  (22:34)
Yeah, I can't wait to talk about the small ship experience that you are referring to, which was Alaskan Dream Cruises on a future episode.

Dan (22:42)
And it really is orderly, fast, and best way to think about it is you're not fighting a bunch of people.

Mikkel (22:50)
You brought up another good point that I thought of when you were talking through that. 

Most of the time, not all instances, there are certainly excursions that you can pay a little extra for depending on the cruise line with river cruises, but they include the excursions, whereas on ocean ships, you need to sign up ahead of time. There is an excursions desk with several people working at the desk to get you to the excursion that you want.

You're in fear of missing the ship a lot of the time. It's not that you can't miss the ship, you know, if you go off on your own on a river cruise ship, you need to make sure you're back. But with the excursions for river cruising, that value of what a river cruise costs includes most of your excursions, which is great. There was a Cognac tasting on our river cruise with Viking because we were in the region that was popular for that. But you know, if you didn't want to do it, you just didn't have to pay extra for it. There's always a tour included. Like it's very typical for there to be a educational, historical walking tour of a city center, especially in Europe, which is always great.

So not only are you just walking off the ship, but that is an included luxury of river cruising. And that is very different between ocean cruising and river cruising. I do want to say, because we write about some ocean cruising and ship-within-a-ship experiences, that one of the perks of ocean cruising and a ship-within-a-ship class, such as The Haven on Norwegian Cruise Line or The Retreat on Celebrity, or MSC Yacht Club, is that you get priority debarkation/disembarkation, and priority embarkation, which is so nice and really makes your experience that much better.

Let's talk about what a day at sea is versus kind of river cruising when we are going to continuous ports. An overview of this to know is that there's really no days at sea when you're on a river cruise ship. So many people, including me, look forward to the day at sea on an ocean ship because you can enjoy the ship all day and you've got nowhere else to be.

On a river cruise ship, I really look forward to those mornings or afternoons when we're sailing on the river and we can see the scenery and that's very much worked into the itinerary. But I can't think of a single instance that we were cruising all day on a river cruise ship, can you?

Dan (25:15)
No. It's usually just little segments of time that we're cruising and we usually find that those small amounts of time that we are cruising are few and far between. We almost wish for more.

Mikkel (25:29)
Yeah, absolutely. So that's different because we're in port to port to port and the ports aren't as far away usually as an ocean ship that's going between islands sometimes or between coastal cities in the Mediterranean, for example. Let's talk about the inclusions and value propositions, which we talked about before. So let's piggyback off of those excursions.

Ocean cruising pricing structure is very different from a river cruise, which has more of an inclusive approach. So in ocean cruising, you have a lower base fare, you have a la carte excursions, you have those beverage packages we talked about before. What about a river cruise?

Dan (26:10)
 River cruises are inclusive and they approach it into a little bit higher upfront pricing, but like I said, everything is included. And you get excursions that are included, at least one daily excursion. And that makes a big difference as far as planning out your days in these ports. Beer and wine is included with meals and there's always opportunities for premium experiences and upgrades.

Mikkel (26:37)
Right - if you want to do the spa experiences Dan talked about before, or some river cruise lines like Viking have what they call "Optional" excursions that are actually optional to pay a little more so you can do them. And then even some river cruise lines like Scenic that I have talked about before on this podcast include alcohol all day, like premium hard liquor. You can get a whiskey at any time of the day and it's included in the price.

Some river cruise lines like Viking, you can include a beverage package. Other cruise lines like AmaWaterways has that Sip & Sail experience that they include hard liquor during this kind of cocktail party hour before dinner, which is really nice. Even if you want a cocktail in the middle of the day, between lunch and dinner, it's really affordable. It's only a couple of euros, so you're not gonna feel like you're being nickeled and dimed.

Another stark contrast between ocean and river cruising is kids. That brings us to age. It is true that river cruising skews towards a little bit of an older demographic, but studies show, especially some statistics we've seen lately from CLIA, that it is trending a little younger. So we are in our mid and late 40s, and we are happy that we are in good company on a lot of these cruises that not only are there more couples and solo travelers in their 50s, in their 40s, we even saw a honeymooning couple in their early 30s on a Riverside Luxury Cruise recently, and a couple of younger couples on there, but generally speaking, it's a mature audience that is going on a river cruise.

While a lot of river cruise lines allow kids, there's not much for them to do. So we don't typically see a lot of children on river cruises.

Dan (28:35)
Children completely change the atmosphere of any cruise, for better or worse. But with ocean, you can be a little bit more anonymous and you can kind of choose your own adventure throughout the day if you stay on the ship or get off the ship. And there's so many different activities that you can partake in that it truly is a vacation within a vacation. Where on a river cruise pretty quickly you get a community feel because you're eating lunch, dinner and breakfast with the same people for the entire cruise. And you're going to see the same people over and over. So you've got a lot of shared experiences. And when you get back to the ship, it's more of a coming home feel than it is just checking into a hotel or going back to your room kind of feel.

Mikkel (29:18)
Mm-hmm. That's true. So that's, really highlighting the age differences and the family experience on an ocean ship versus on a river cruise ship. And we do see some like parents in their seventies and kids in their forties on river cruise ships, but also what you touched on the social atmosphere of these ships. 

And it is true: you can be more anonymous on an ocean ship because you're one of 6,000 maybe, whereas on a river cruise ship you're one of 100 or 200. 

It's always fun on a river cruise ship on the third day when we're like, oh, we haven't seen them before, that's fun.

And also that coming home feeling, whereas you might need to be in a suite class, for instance, on an ocean ship to get turndown service, where they literally turn down your comforter on your bed and put a little chocolate on it.

It is very typical on a river cruise ship to have that. Not every river cruise ship, but a lot of them do that. So kind of harkening back to your coming home statement of returning to a river cruise ship. Are there any thoughts about anything we haven't touched on today talking about ocean versus river cruising?

Dan (30:36)
There are some similarities, there's some differences, and really for me the big takeaway is you can like or even love both. You don't have to really choose one or the other, but it's what kind of vacation are you in the mood for or what are you looking for on your vacation? 

If it's slow, community-focused travel, then river might be right for you. But if you need amenities and you need entertainment, then the ocean or a big ship may be perfect for that. And you can do two or three or five all in the same year.

Mikkel (31:09)
I think that is fantastic advice and hitting the nail on the head for who ocean or river cruising is befitting for. And I love that you said you don't have to choose. You can do both. And that is so true. 

We have an extensive article on SometimesSailing.com about ocean versus river cruising that touches on all of this. If you are somebody who wants to read through this, aside from the transcript in this episode and our show notes, we are going to link you up to that. I also want to thank you for spending time with us today. Our next episode, episode four, is going to be discussing the Top Things to Know About River Cruising. 

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