
Heavenly Human
Welcome to the Heavenly Human podcast where we help you pause and pivot toward true fulfillment.
Have you ever felt that stirring deep inside — that quiet voice telling you there's something more for your life? That feeling that despite all your success, something still feels missing?
We’ve been there. We are you. Three years ago, co-host Laura King was at the peak of her career as an Executive Recruiter. On paper, she had it all. Awards, accolades, and a healthy bank account. But each night, she’d come home feeling slightly off, a bit disconnected, and wondering, "Is this it?"
In 2023, it all came crashing down with a triple diagnosis - severe anxiety, ADHD, and sleep issues. Her body was screaming what her heart had been whispering for years. There was another path. There was another way of being.
Co-host Mondo experienced a similar calling. Three years ago, he was living what many would consider the dream — a successful startup founder with a six-figure lifestyle. Then, his heart called him to something radical: surrendering 99% of his material possessions to pursue a completely different path.
What Laura and Mondo both discovered through deep conversations, healing, tears, breakthroughs, and countless moments of growth was that we were being called to our unique sliver of Heaven on Earth — what we now call, Heavenly Human.
We've now joined forces to create this podcast, sharing what we've learned with other believers who feel that same nudge toward something more meaningful. We're here to guide you toward fulfillment through the embodiment of heaven on earth.
Peace, Love, Joy, Freedom, Abundance.
It’s all waiting for you.
"Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."
Heavenly Human
You Are God's Canvas: The Art of Being Authentically You
What if the most powerful way to heal your relationships isn't by trying to change others, but by taking radical responsibility for your own healing journey? In this episode, Laura shares a vulnerable moment with her seven-year-old son that becomes a powerful gateway to understanding deeper family dynamics. "I heard God tell me to heal yourself, Laura, and they will be healed," she reveals, setting the tone for a profound exploration of personal transformation.
Mondo introduces the compelling metaphor of the family tree, challenging listeners to consider whether they see themselves as branches or roots. "I chose to believe that I am a root for my family tree," he explains, "and so it is my responsibility to become the most healed version of myself, because then everything that sprouts from those roots will experience some type of transformation."
Whether you're navigating challenging family relationships, feeling called to personal transformation, or simply seeking greater fulfillment, this episode offers both practical wisdom and spiritual nourishment for your journey. Text us your questions or thoughts, and help us spread this message by rating and reviewing the show.
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Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you find fulfillment. My name is Ahramondo, but you can call me Mondo, and I am here with the amazing Laura King. What's up, Laura? How are?
Speaker 2:you Good morning. Good morning, happy Friday to you.
Speaker 1:Oh, it is Friday. It is a good Friday for me, laura. I got to tell you why it's a good Friday for me and I haven't even let you know this yet. It is a great Friday for me because 24 hours ago I got a text from my daughter and she says Dad, today I am committing to Texas Southern University and I was like that's dope and so just proud dad moment of you know, figuring out what college you want to go to during the visit, feeling like there is something about Houston, texas, that just aligns with her spirit, and I just felt proud of her. So yesterday was definitely a proud parent moment and I feel good.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Yeah, I had not a great parents moment this morning. One of my sons decided to start saying things like you must hate me, you must hate me, you must hate me, in response to his older brother making fun of him. And then he just went on a rant and so I mean I, just before he came here, I was almost in tears. I'm like, okay, there's clearly something with him that's really he's, he's upset about, he's telling himself a story. That's not true.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's telling himself a story that mom and dad don't love him as much as they love his other brothers. So this is like okay, ding, ding, ding. There's something here that brian and I need to be very aware of.
Speaker 2:With our third born, and he's feeling left out third born, so there's a younger one, so he's and and so, and he's not quite as quote-unquote like athletic as his older brother yeah, old, both of his older brothers and so he's finding his way. He's finding his way. He's finding his way of, you know, even in this family, of what's what's his identity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, wow, and how old? Seven, seven, okay. So finding your identity at seven, that's a. Thing.
Speaker 2:But, but you know, his first, his first reaction was rage this morning, and so, whatever that happens, I know, okay, that clearly shows me there's something in me that isn't healed, because anytime, my oh, my gosh, yeah, anytime they're acting up, that always means there's something in me that needs to be looked at. So I'm going to be sitting out with that this weekend.
Speaker 1:Tell me why or how you got to a point in your journey that you chose to agree with that meaning. Something is going on with my son. There must be something wrong, not wrong. There must be an imbalance in me. How did you get there?
Speaker 2:um, I heard god tell me to heal yourself, Laura, and they will be healed, Like I heard that voice and every time I see something in them, that is the the first place I go is where within you are you not healed? Are where with? Where within you are you not loving yourself?
Speaker 1:you not healed, or where within you are you not loving yourself? Oh, okay, yeah, one of the pieces of language that you said was my son is telling himself this story, he's believing in a certain story, and so he's acting out because he has made some agreements with this story. And I was actually thinking about this this morning, just around the stories that we choose to agree with, right, the things that are in our mind. To your point. Similarly, I didn't hear this from God, but the connection that I made in my life was, growing up, we always have this family tree, right, like, create your family tree and put your brothers and your mom, dad, cousins, uncles, all on this family tree. And so the symbolism of this family tree for me now is well, how healthy is this tree?
Speaker 1:And so you just said something that was extremely profound to me, which is well, if I heal something in myself, is it going to heal a piece of this tree? And so then I had to start thinking to myself all right, mondo, where in the tree do you believe you are? Do you believe that you are a branch? Believe you are? Do you believe that you are a branch? And so, if you heal yourself, then the extensions of your branch will be healed? Or do you believe that you are a root, and if you heal yourself, then the rest of the tree begins to heal itself? And so I'm not telling anybody else what they have to believe. I chose to believe that I am a root for my family tree, and so it is my responsibility to become the most healed version of myself, because then everything that sprouts from those roots will experience some type of transformation or some type of healing. And so, again to your point what story are we telling ourselves? What are we choosing to believe? And then are we going all in on those beliefs?
Speaker 2:There's just something that really resonates with me, and it relates to exactly what we wanted to talk about today. How cool is that? I didn't even plan this. Radical responsibility, yes, radical responsibility. Responsibility, yes, radical responsibility. And so what I'm taking from this situation this morning with my son is hmm, I'm going to sit with this, I'm going to sit with this and see where I'm being guided, because these, these moments are so, and again, it doesn't matter if you have kids or not, but if there are things that are showing you that like for me, just seeing the fear on his face, seeing the unworthiness on his face, I'm like that's not true. That's not true. True, but I, as a parent, need to take radical responsibility for showing my son that he is pure love and that he is um 1000% worthy. By the way that I make him feel so, are there things that I'm doing maybe not even consciously, maybe it's subconsciously that are making him believe that story?
Speaker 2:So, that's the check with me. I'm like, okay, what am I doing? That's feeding into this story.
Speaker 1:If you're listening to this part, this is where I really do want you to pause and reflect, because I imagine there is someone in your life a relative, a friend, just somebody in close proximity and when you look at them or when you think about their characteristics and your behavior, you're thinking I need to fix them or they need to be fixed it is something that is not related to you, and what Laura just said is she has made a conscious choice to believe.
Speaker 1:The way for me to support this other human that is not me is to work on me and through me becoming the most balanced version of myself, the most balanced version of myself, my expression of love will be a mirror that they then are like oh, it's happening. I want some of that. What do you get? Right? Like you then become a role model, which is a word you use a lot, right? Yes, you then be the role model mindset. Right, they're just like.
Speaker 1:They don't even know what it is, but they're just you know. They're like what is Laura doing? What is she eating? What is she thinking? What is she drinking? Like like, there's just something about Laura that I want. And then they then go on their journey to try to discover that for themselves. And so it's just. It's so dope to hear you say these words out loud, laura, like I see something outside of me that doesn't feel balanced, and instead of trying to like glue it together, you go within and you're like let me find this piece in me that might not be fully healed or balanced yet, and when I do that I believe that is it is going to help serve this other human.
Speaker 2:And when he left, got on the bus, I was sitting here doing the dishes, very intentionally doing the dishes, thinking I'm sending him love, I'm sending him love, I'm sending him love. I visualized him going through his day with smiles, with people seeing his gifts, his friends giving him a high five for him to experience so much love today. Oh my gosh, that feels way more important than answering 150 emails that I have to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, this is, this is what I'm talking about the old Laura versus the new Laura. Like old Laura would have just stuffed it under the rug and like I'll deal with that later, that's you know. Whatever I got, I've got quote unquote more important things to do. What is more important than making my son feel loved?
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 2:I mean let's.
Speaker 1:Let's say that with emphasis nothing right, like I'm not big into scripture verses Right, but the few that I have I like really embrace.
Speaker 1:And the one that says, like your treasure is where your heart will be. Right Is, like, so real with the tasks that you need to do, to do work or whatever somebody outside of your household, or is your heart with your kids or your husband right? And so when those things are standing right in front of you and you have to choose, you have to prioritize one. In spirit, you're saying God, this is what I am choosing in this moment, right, and God's like, ok, cool, if it is your son, then that energy that you are putting out for your son will be delivered. If it is for work and if you choose that path, cool, you're going to reap all the benefits of that in your work life. But that other person who also needs you might feel inadequate because they don't feel that presence, they don't feel you filling this, the world, with energy and love when they get on the bus, right, like, like your son feels that and doesn't even know that he feels it Right.
Speaker 2:But you are just that intentional to care for the person that you love which is like really bringing me to like the other aha that I'm just swimming in this week, which is understanding how powerful like I am from an energetic standpoint and how my energy can actually affect other people's energy. And so, like that has been this whole journey of, even you know, my healing and what's happened in this household to see my kids go from you know just, I mean rage and and and throwing things and leaving the house and threatening to to not come back. I mean, like it was, it was bad, mondo, it was bad and that was at the height of my feeling. So far from God, so far from God and like gosh, I just think about, wow, think not that you need to change anyone, but when you change even your attitude, with, okay, checking in with my energy right now, what kind of energy am I giving off? And oh, wow, was I giving off this fearful, anxious energy to my kids? You bet I was, and that was the household, that was the energy.
Speaker 2:And then now you know, because I'm consciously choosing it, maybe this morning I felt maybe I was a little lazy, I don't know, I was like not as intentional and engaged that this occurred, occurred, but I am really waking up to all of these, um, these gifts that I have and gifts I see in others, and like, oh my gosh, do we realize that we are, we are meant to use our gifts to help others, like? I know that sounds so basic when you listen to those words, but no, truly. Especially if you're in a job right now, are you really using your gifts? And I think this is part of this. This transformation that we're on is a redirection, because if you're not using your gifts, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what are you doing? And that's maybe where you feel the lack of fulfillment is because somewhere in you like somewhere in your body, somewhere in your spirit, somewhere in your mind, you're like Like. Somewhere in your body, somewhere in your spirit, somewhere in your mind, you're like I know there's more, I know there's more, I know there's more, and that push, pull, push, pull, push, pull. I'm telling you it sucks. It sucks to be in this, like in between, when you're like well, that sounds just too good to be true, Laura.
Speaker 1:Who's going to just pay me to use my gifts? Yeah, yeah, who's going to pay me to use my gifts? Oh, one of the things that came to me when you were telling that story was in a past life. I was an educator at an elementary school and it was one of the most challenging elementary schools in St Paul, quote unquote. But we had some of the most amazing teachers. Like when it comes to putting a stamp of approval on good humans coming together to do amazing things to serve others, I give this staff an a plus, plus, plus. Like we were all in yes, and that also meant we had some of the most challenging students in the district, and I remember that also meant we had some of the most challenging students in the district. And I remember Parents would say for some students well, my kid doesn't act that way at home, right, and I had heard it so much that it created this dissonance of like.
Speaker 1:So you're saying your kid is a saint at home, but they come to school and their behavior is far from saint like OK, if I take that as truth, why is that student acting that way in school? Why is that student acting that way in school? And I think it was a counselor one day that said that just means that that kid feels safe enough to do those behaviors Like at home. There's such a rigid Set of rules that they never get to fully express themselves, and so when they come to school and they do these extra things, it is like literally their inner spirit saying finally, I have some freedom to discover who I am.
Speaker 1:And so when you're talking and saying these things about your son, I'm just like, oh yeah, like he feels safe enough to do this at home because of your patience, because you are going to continue to send them love. And when that counselor told me that, I was like, oh OK, I receive that. So we as teachers, as educators our patience, our love, our desire to pull out the best possible version we can of that student, we are in alignment with that assignment and it's extremely challenging, right Like us, being patient and forgiving that student day after day after day after day. That is what is hard to do, right? All we can do, a whole bunch of stuff to like try to change their behavior, but having the patience to forgive over and over and over, like that is hard, but you know what else is coming up for me that I think needs to be just laid out.
Speaker 2:I bet there's some listeners who are having an aha that they were not safe in their home to be themselves, to fully express who they are. Think about that. How many of you and maybe this is like a poll I'd love to know how many people felt like, yeah, I grew up in a home where I was 100%. Whether it was real or imagined that they could express who they were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I mean to piggyback that what if they still haven't lived a season of life where they have explored those other versions of themselves?
Speaker 2:I want this for everyone. I want this for everyone. I want this for everyone to decide that you are going to explore who you really are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's that inner you that's locked in there like banging at the door trying to get out, like please.
Speaker 2:And life is usually trying to tell you things Like. That's why the quote unquote bad things happen. It's trying to get you to wake up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, say more about that, cause I believe that with all my beingness, oh gosh. So lean into that a little bit for us.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is a perfect example. So a couple of weeks ago, um, a woman booked a call with me, um to see if we were good fits to work together from a coaching perspective, and, um, the first thing that she shared with me is that she is a two time breast cancer survivor and you know it immediately came to my spirit was whoa right, that is, dis ease in the body.
Speaker 1:Dis ease.
Speaker 2:That is, dis-ease in the body, dis-ease. Our bodies are a tuning fork and our bodies will tell us when we're not in alignment.
Speaker 1:Laura, pause for a second, because you know I love words and I have never did the dis-ease, never did the dis ease. Oh my gosh, did I just teach you?
Speaker 2:You just taught me that.
Speaker 1:That was dope. Okay, all right, this is me being a fan boy. It's like when you discover something new and you're just like what Mind blown. That was a mind blowing moment. Thank you for that. Happy Friday.
Speaker 2:And I'm not saying it's your fault either.
Speaker 1:It's an invitation to explore, like what is going on in my body that's telling me I'm not living in alignment the belief that God is all powerful and everything is possible can lead you to believe that somehow, some way, these things that are happening, that seem like a negative experience, can be for you and God is Starting to push you in a direction, to follow his guidance, using these forces that are disruptive. Because the whispers and we talked about this before the whispers you chose not to listen to, right when God was like hey, I'm over here.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe change your job, go, you know like, go this way.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Turn left.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just you might. It's free, it's free, it's open. You can make this choice all by yourself.
Speaker 1:And because you chose to prioritize money, because you were fearful, right, like this is not A Negative perception of money, like you shouldn't go earn money, like I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1:What I am saying is, are you making decisions about money out of fear and are you consistently making the same choices? Because the lack of whatever number you believe you need to have in the bank for security, because going below that creates this level of fear, you never do anything that puts you in position to experience life outside of this container that you set for yourself. And so I'm saying that, because, if you would have listened to God, say, hey, just come this way, just take this brave step and take a right, it may have been a pathway for an even doper job or role, making more money or having more freedom or having more control, but because you didn't see it, you chose not to pursue it, and so God was like, oh OK, I'll let you continue to stay on this path, but the next time we come around, you're just going to be fired. Gosh, you know what I'm saying? Like I gave you the opportunity. Well, that's where radical responsibility.
Speaker 2:At what point are you going to take responsibility?
Speaker 1:Exactly Because God knows your heart and your mind, knows that you wake up every Monday frustrated Like God no, you can't hide it from God. So God is like oh, okay, well, like, come this way, like I can help you resolve that. But because you are choosing not to listen, because you are not taking radical responsibility for your energy that you are showing up with, eventually God is like oh, I guess I gotta, I gotta help you with more force. Um, and I feel like that happens in our lives over and over and over and over.
Speaker 2:I mean I feel called to share, like I feel super wobbly right now because I don't necessarily know exactly what my like the bulk of my income is going to be coming from. Like it feels very like I'm on a limb here. Holy cow, god, where do you have? You have me spending time what? Doing podcasts and putting content out for people, finishing my book all of these things that don't necessarily make sense because they're not revenue generating. And I come from a background of like make how many outbound phone calls and outbound emails? Like every day, you need to be hustling, hustling, hustling.
Speaker 2:And I'm in this in-between time where and I'm in this in-between time where, yes, I'm still doing some recruiting, yes, I am doing quite a bit of coaching, but I still have these fears that pop up and they're like what if everyone doesn't enjoy working with you, laura? Or what if you don't get the outcomes that you're working towards together? And what if, what, if, what? If I start going down the fear, I start like second guessing myself. I start feeling all the things that in the past have held me back. In the past, I've held me back from really going for it, and I feel like this is such a big declaration this time, that I'm supposed to do this to show other people that they can do it too. Supposed to do this to show other people that they can do it too, even though it's really scary at times because I'm the breadwinner for my family.
Speaker 2:I just want people to know that I'm choosing faith. I'm walking this out in faith, fully expecting the money to be there. It's not like I don't have strategies, but it feels hard because I've never done this before and so I have to become a new person, the person who trusts God 1000%, and that's the adventure I'm on. And some days I'm like no, this is really exciting, but some days it's really scary, and I'm just being really honest because I feel like there's other people out there that need to know the depth of the emotions, and the depth of it is real when you can really access it.
Speaker 2:There's an overwhelming peace and overwhelming love that says I created you to have this amazing experience. This gets to be exactly how you've pictured it in your mind. Because I know you, because I am you, I really believe we're all just mirrors of each other. There have been dreams that have been placed in your heart and they keep eating at you because they're supposed to come into your reality, and so I am allowing myself to dream, and when they come true, you bet I'm going to come on and be like guys, they came true. They came true and like how cool is it to then experience that Even I mean, it doesn't have to be a big dream.
Speaker 2:It could be like I was just talking to Mano and I before we got on here. We're like okay, so we keep trying to do video and the video keeps failing. What the heck? Even the tripod today just broke instantly. Like what? And so like oh well, one of my dreams is that we have a beautiful studio. One of the dreams is that, you know, there's like professional cameras and we get to reach so many more people. So that gets to come true.
Speaker 1:It's just a matter of when.
Speaker 1:Laura, you just said so many words. One. Laura, you just said so many words. One. I want to applaud your effort to follow this.
Speaker 1:I believe that the humans who go into that darkness and walk by faith 150,000% are just able to relate to the discomfort, the unease, the fear, the uncertainty, like the ones, the humans who choose to explore all the versions of themselves, which is what you are doing right now. We just see each other right, like the things that you are saying. I'm like, I remember that, and so I just want to be your biggest cheerleader and say keep on going, going, because God continues. My belief is God continues to put this fearful weight on top of your shoulder and more weight on top of your shoulder, and if you choose to consistently say, all right, god, I'm going to carry this as many steps as I can carry, but that step that you know I'm going to fall and break, I know you're going to take it off because you choose to believe that and you only focus on that next step when you build that muscle, when you have so many reps taking that next step, that next step, that next step, you recognize, my belief is that all this extra planning that we, as humans needed to do for a season of our life is absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1:But all those ways that I used to live, I don't have to live that way anymore, because God kept stretching me, stretching my patience, stretching my belief, stretching every fiber of my being to just have faith and trust in him. Because it happened so many times and every time you're like I have nothing else, this is going to break. Every time you got to that moment, god was like here you go, here you go, here you go. And it happens over and over and over. And then eventually you're just like oh well, the here you go is just going to happen. Because I have so much evidence to back the moments of extreme doubt that God was just like you made it this far and so, man, like the things that Laura are saying are so real.
Speaker 2:But is it just? I just got to keep. It's like like the mother reps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just the reps. It is. I'll tell a short story Before I went through my journey. I'll tell a short story Before I went through my journey. I walked through the world with all the benefits of middle-class lifestyle and then I went from middle-class to higher middle-class lifestyle and one of the things that I discovered that I was missing is what is I don't want to say real struggle, because, like all, struggle is real but I had no idea what it was like to walk through the world, to walk through the world without the freedom to be able to, like do what I want, purchase what I want, except for like college and we all kind of experienced that in college, where we got a ramen noodle season Right, but like outside of that, it was just like yo.
Speaker 1:There are people in the world who have to make real dire choices about life and even though I had empathy for that type of human, I didn't understand how they were actually feeling, how hard those choices were, and I felt like going through this walk where you're exploring the depths of yourself, where you're risking everything, where you're like yo my life is beautiful, but I have to take this risk to blow it all up and just have faith that my God is going to not take this from me.
Speaker 1:Embracing that level of faith to me is a type of faith that somebody must have and walk with, who has next to nothing in life, where they don't have the privilege to think oh like, let me go take these risks and if they don't work out, I'll lose my five bedroom house out. I'll lose my five bedroom house. No, it's like, let me go take this risk and if it doesn't work, I don't have a place to sleep tonight. Right, like, some people just have a different level of challenge and I felt as if I was privileged enough to live a life where I was so removed from those challenges and shout out to my parents and my family and all that Like I am grateful for those things.
Speaker 1:but for some reason, I believe God was like if you are going to be the leader that I need you to be, I need you to go experience having less. I need you to go experience risking it all and nobody else understanding why you are making this choice. But you are being obedient to my words, mondo. And so, similarly, I feel like Laura, you are being obedient to God's word, to his plan for you, and, as uncomfortable as it is, I believe that it is almost impossible for you to turn back around and say I don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 2:No, I've come this far, I didn't just come. It's kind of like, when Brian looked at me, we were moments away from opening Rock U and it's just, it's classic Before you're about to do something really important in the world, all this stuff comes at you. It's like how bad, do you really want this? And we it was a season, I mean like this kid got COVID and then this kid got COVID, and you remember those times when you had to keep him home for like three weeks, four weeks something like that.
Speaker 2:And and they were fine. They were totally fine. Um, and then Brian started getting these, um, these debilitating headaches that would just knock, and they weren't. They're kind of like migraines, but they. He had to go remove himself and the only thing that got him better is if he laid down and slept for a couple hours and imagine like, okay, I'm handling all the kids. He's laying upstairs in bed. We're apparently supposed to open next week, what, what.
Speaker 2:And I remember, looking him straight in the eye, I said I'm like honey, we did not come this far to give up. We did not come this far to just throw in the towel. Yeah, and I am so here to tell you please don't give up on yourself, because by giving up on yourself, you're giving up on God. We don't need to give up on yourself, you're giving up on God. We don't need to give up on God. God is pointing you in the right direction. He's always pointing you in the right direction.
Speaker 2:It's just are you listening? Are you being still? And I know for me that has been the most transformative practice is I've found how to get still because I'm the classic go, go, go, do, do, do. My performance is tied to how much stuff I get done in a day that is how I would. Was today a good day? Yes, because I got 12 out of the 12 things checked off on my list, and now it is so much more about the depth of the conversations that I get to have with people like touching people's hearts in a way that they will never be the same. I am here to just make sure that I touch your heart in a way that, even if we never meet again, if you hear my name I hope you think fondly of me. It is a soul, a deep, deep soul connection that I am able to help you.
Speaker 2:And whatever that breakthrough is and maybe it's a really small breakthrough and maybe at first it rattles you because sometimes truth at first it hurts it hurts because we think, oh man, I got a character defect. Shoot, I got a character defect. I know that's where I was. For a long time I was like, oh, I guess I'm just not good enough. I sat in that for a long time before I came across that lovely journal that had my obituary in there and I'm like oh, am I really living into this person? Am I being this person? That was a moment of like, shoot, am I going to be this person that I really want to be? Really want to be and so that's the guiding light now is like am I going about my day being the kind, loving, compassionate person who can slow down and really be with the people she loves?
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that. One of the things that hit me, as you were saying that, is if somebody's like, okay, where do I start? Right, Laura and I are both about three years in give or take, and so the things that we are going through right now is around that three year arc of energy spirit challenges is around that three year arc of energy spirit challenges, and so for the person who wants to start right now, I want to offer how or where I started, very small, and I say very small because it gives you the opportunity to start there if you would like to. You don't have to make these agreements, but this is just how I started to retrain my brain to start and do things differently.
Speaker 1:So one of the things Laura just talked about was stillness. Without a doubt, it doesn't matter who you are or where you're at, Eventually you are going to have to experience a season of stillness. How or when that happens, I don't know what that plan is for you, but just know stillness is part of the experience. For me, one of the things that happened a few years ago was and this goes to my play on words, which is why, when Laura said, dis-ease blew my mind. But there was a season a few years ago where I loved whiskey. I'm talking about absolutely 100%.
Speaker 1:Everybody is coming to Mondo's house to get some good whiskey and for some reason I can't remember what I watched or what I saw and something in my spirit was like you need to stop drinking whiskey for whatever reason. And when I stopped, like when I made the conscious choice to stop, my spirit was like oh yeah, like when you go to the liquor store, you're going to buy spirits and you like whiskey, and that whiskey is dark, and so you are choosing to put this dark spirit into your being, into your body. Once that thought hit, I was like well, clearly I'm not going to choose to do that again. It was just something that resonated with me. It was a story that made sense that this is a spirit. God was like well, now you get to choose. I gave you this framework that I know hit.
Speaker 2:I know is vibing with you.
Speaker 1:Are you going to ignore it or are you going to continue to embrace it? I chose to give up whiskey and give up hard liquor. This is the second part where I get to stillness, and I'll lob it back to Laura. Because I gave up whiskey, god was like oh, thank you for doing that. The thing that you were blinded to is you weren't actually seeking whiskey, you are seeking the wise key. Right Like whiskey. You seeing it over and over and over was just something that every time you look, you would see wise and you would see key. Now that you don't have whiskey in you anymore, I am going to put you on this track to have your wise key. You are going to start seeing things in the world in a way that others aren't able to see it because you're not putting this dark spirit into your body. So I'm going to clear your sight a little bit more To the stillness piece.
Speaker 1:God was like you love Superman. Superman is the man of steel, can leap buildings and do all these things or whatever. And God was like not the man of steel, as in metal, the man of steel, as in be still. Do you have the discipline, the courage to be still STILL. And so I just want to like say these, like moments of just interactions with God that I had. That really resonated with me. It just hit. I was just like, oh, that came from God, because I'd never thought of those words that way. If you in your life know that this thing keeps showing up for you and you're like, why is this here, why is this happening? Be still, stop drinking for 30 days, and I believe that God will reveal what he is actually trying to tell you. That thing is just there to be a trigger for you to pause, be still and pivot to a different direction.
Speaker 2:Oh wow.
Speaker 2:So that was just part of my starting and I'm kind of what I'm processing this. We're not saying that. That is exactly what you need to do, because here I am, going on my journey. I still drink whiskey time to time I mean not often, but every once in a while. My practices are different than Mondo's. Your practices will be different than ours.
Speaker 2:The key is awareness, awareness. Awareness awareness when you can become conscious of things that are unconscious. So think about this when you wake up in the morning, what's the first thing you do? Are you checking your email? Are you going to social media Like are you getting pulled into what I call other programs, yes or are you being intentional about what you want your day to look and feel like? This is the invitation.
Speaker 2:Do you get pulled into the quote, unquote world and what they say is important and they are telling you and what they say is important and they are telling you? Or are you going to summon your energy and place it on yourself and your direct relationship with God and say God, what do we want to create today, what do we want this day to feel like? And that's what I do in the morning Now I just I go through like this movie in my mind. It's like I see the different scenes from the day of me interacting with people. I know I'm going to see um and just smiles and joy and like, oh, so we get to create it through our imagination and then it like I know every day I'm like wow, that that scene in my mind that actually happened.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That is so awesome. And this this is why I love doing this podcast with Laura because of the contrast, because of how our approaches have been different. We chose to embrace different things. God chose to talk to us differently and between the two of us there's a lot of recipes. Right, pick one. And when she was talking about visualizing her day and all the things that she was going to experience, I was like that's such an awesome recipe and it's not mine and I'm just like how dope is that and how is that playing out in the world over and over and over, when you have a recipe for yourself but you are trying to project your way on everybody else?
Speaker 2:This is exactly what we're talking about. How do we seek to understand someone else?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Like again your ways. If I were to adopt the way of your lifestyle, I'm like. That just doesn't speak to me at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the invitation is how do I almost have these, um, almost like like a childlike curiosity, like, oh, I'd like to be Mando, to walk through life a day in the life, and how he thinks and how he experiences things? And that is the coolest part about this thing called life is because now, like wow, that's so different from my experience, but I can see how much joy it brings you and if all, ultimately, we can all live in that world where we can appreciate each other's choices.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, it's a win to me. It's a win, one of the things that you said that made me think of this analogy that I have used in like a presentation one time. But let me try to paint the picture to piggyback what Laura just said. I imagine going into a museum with a bunch of paintings, right, and you have this guide walking you through the museum and you see this piece of art and the art has a name, but they're just like, oh, that's a Picasso. And you go to the next thing and the art has a name, but they're just like, oh, that's a Picasso. And you go to the next thing and the art has a name and they're like, well, that's a Michelangelo, right. And then you just keep going through this museum and then you get to a point in the museum where they move back a curtain.
Speaker 1:And a human is standing there and they say that's laura king, that's a god. Not that laura is a god, but laura is the work of art of the creator, right my expression my correctness all the way of my being everything about you a painting?
Speaker 1:yep, is an expression of god's art, right, and so it's like, yeah, like every stroke of laura is so amazing and so unique and is an expression of God's creativity. My expression of God's creativity is different, and we both can look at ourselves in the mirror and at each other and be like you're a beautiful art, right. And if we just start looking at others that same way and being like that is God's expression of art on a different canvas and a different canvas, and a different canvas to Laura's point, let me go find out how I appreciate that canvas, right? Oh man, that person looks so different. Ah, that doesn't really align with anything that I have experienced before.
Speaker 1:I then think, when we look at Basquiat as an artist so abstract, we're like that. That image is fire, we don't even know why it's dope, but we're just like that is a great expression of art. So I do my best to look at other humans when they don't look like me or they're so different or removed from who I am, and I'm just like that's God's version of Basquiat in human form. Right, that is his expression. Like it's not supposed to fit in. However, it is still beautiful, and so that mindset of unconditional love, of showing up and just wanting to love on everything around you, because you recognize that everything comes from the spirit of God, from the creativity of God. When you start to seek to see the world that way, fulfillment is within reach, because then nothing around you is against you. Everything is just art for you to experience.
Speaker 2:It's all for you.
Speaker 1:All of it.
Speaker 2:All of it.
Speaker 1:All of it, and so that's a lot of words. I feel like Laura and I threw out today.
Speaker 2:I am like still processing Holy cow. That was a lot Mondo.
Speaker 1:So for the listeners, like Laura and I, we started this podcast. We were like you know what, we should find a way to go a little bit deeper today, Like let's just really try to tune into the spirit of God and figure out what we're supposed to say today.
Speaker 2:And I feel like we did a good job Through the podcast. Send us a text, let us know. You know, we'd love, we'd love your ratings and reviews. Seriously, like if we can help more people. That's our intention here. Like how can we, how can we be a trusted voice to more people?
Speaker 1:How can we? Please ask the questions. Please send in suggestions. We we want to keep going. Yes, we Please ask the questions. Please send in suggestions. We want to keep going. Yes, we do. And, as Laura said earlier, if somebody is sitting around like, yeah, we've got a studio with cameras, we'll pull up. Alright from Mondo and Laura, we're out of here. Peace, peace.