Heavenly Human

Your Heart Knows What Your Mind Cannot See

• Trusted Voices • Season 2 • Episode 14

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The spiritual battle between darkness and light affects us all, but how do we navigate it without being overwhelmed? Laura vulnerably shares her experience as a "deep feeler," describing how she absorbs others' pain while maintaining her own protective shield. This leads to a profound discussion about consciousness as awareness – recognizing ourselves as eternal beings living temporarily in physical bodies.

The conversation takes an unexpected turn when examining the balance between heart and mind. Using the film "Lucy" as a metaphor, Mondo suggests that as AI handles more intellectual tasks, perhaps humanity's next evolution involves leading more from the heart than the head. This shift requires courage but offers a more authentic and fulfilling existence.

One of the most touching moments comes when Laura describes watching a sunset with her five-year-old, fully present and overwhelmed with emotion as she realized how many similar moments she'd missed while prioritizing work. This revelation sparked a commitment to "burn down" old patterns and choose differently moving forward.

Whether you're feeling spiritually adrift or simply questioning if you're climbing the right ladder in life, this episode offers practical wisdom for reconnecting with your divine purpose. The hosts suggest starting with a simple exercise: describe your dream day in writing, then identify small elements you can incorporate immediately.

Throughout the conversation, Mondo and Laura weave together spiritual insights with practical applications, creating a roadmap for anyone seeking greater fulfillment. Their vision of "heavenly humans" coming together – creative souls, teachers, chefs, and others all aligned in their divine purpose – offers hope that individual transformation can ultimately create collective change.

Checkout Laura King as a Peak Performance Coach + Speaker on her website:

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Mondo:

Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you pause and pivot to a more fulfilling life. My name is Mondo and I am joined with Laura King, and we got cameras and lights going this time.

Laura:

Oh, we're fancy now yeah we are. We put it out to the universe.

Mondo:

We did, we did, we put it out, we did we put it out and, if I remember correctly, you said it on a podcast and was it an hour or two later?

Laura:

yes, our dear friend jason said uh, I got some space.

Mondo:

And stuff and lights and we could just make it happen, and so the power of just putting things out there.

Laura:

Yeah, ask.

Mondo:

Ask and you shall receive it's a real thing, you shall find. Okay, Look, we're a whole symphony out here you know, how was your day today Do?

Laura:

you want me to be honest.

Mondo:

I want you to be honest. I mean, just go there.

Laura:

I'm feeling, to be honest, I want you to be honest. I mean, just go there. I'm feeling all the feels, I'm realizing how much I am taking in. Oh my gosh, it's just the waves come over me. Mondo, I just like I, I feel it so deeply that this is a it's a spiritual warfare between the darkness and the light, and I have so many humans that are reaching out to me and I'm so happy that they do, but I can get taken down and forget how powerful we are and how we get to choose intentionally to bring the light. But I'm telling you, I'm a deep feeler and people are going through it. People are going through it.

Mondo:

People are going through it and I just feel like that's a real thing in just the world in general. Right, Like, as a society, things are just happening. What would you say to just jump right in is something that has kept you balanced or has allowed you to maybe sidestep it, avoid it, or have a strong enough shield so you're not being smacked with that negative energy every day. I don't know if that question is the right question, but I just know I open up social media or if I open up the news, it's just a lot of stuff, right? A lot of people shouldering a lot of stuff. And so has Laura been shouldering this stuff every day and she just learned how to carry it? Or has Laura been like Neo in the matrix and like just dodging it?

Mondo:

or whatever right Like how are I guess? How do you handle that energy coming your way?

Laura:

I literally envision I've got this like protective shield around me.

Mondo:

Okay, I mean sometimes I forget Like sometimes I forget. So, like people call you and is it a? Or reach out or you cross paths, is it a? Does it feel like a dump? Does it feel like they're asking for help? Do you just naturally just feel what they feel like, what's happening?

Laura:

Help us understand just the Laura experience to get people who resonate with your story. And there's this gentleman like I worked with well over a decade ago and we just recently reconnected and it was like an SOS text. This morning, like Laura, I'm being just sucked up by the darkness and I can't stop all these negative thoughts and I just resonate so deeply with that because that was me.

Mondo:

Yeah.

Laura:

That was me two years ago, and so I just I like viscerally feel his pain Because I think, in a way, like we're all connected, and so of course I'm going to say, yep, let's talk, yep, I'm here for you, let's pray together.

Mondo:

Yeah, yeah. I think the thing that really stuck out to me was the word thoughts, and so before we hopped into this podcast, I know we went back and forth like what is the key word, and we felt like consciousness was the key word. Is consciousness and thoughts equivalent to you or is it different?

Laura:

I think consciousness, and I actually think of the word awareness, like when you're aware that you are an eternal being living in this physical body and it's almost remembering the truth of who you are at all times.

Mondo:

Okay.

Laura:

That, to me, gives me comfort in knowing that, like I'm limitless, I'm unbreakable.

Mondo:

Yeah.

Laura:

There's actually nothing here that's going to hurt me.

Mondo:

Yeah.

Laura:

And I just have been able to hear so many stories of people who have shared with me like they've literally died and they've gone to the other side and they're like Laura, there's nothing to fear. There's absolutely nothing to fear.

Mondo:

So, as part of our responsibility to ourselves, to come to a point in our journey where we truly believe that all the way is it actually like facing enough fears? To know that they're illusions fair, yeah, I mean like when I think about the story of jesus, it's I faced death and conquered it right like I would. Resurrection was real, so like there's no reason to be afraid of death. If you're a believer in Christ and Christ beat death, then where is the fear?

Laura:

Right and so.

Mondo:

I think there is some Some reality to anchor on or some beliefs to anchor on, if you actually want to take that next step right. So we talk about fulfillment and I believe that part of that fulfillment martial arts right like happens in the mind, right? And rather you say thoughts and consciousness are the same or they're different. Right, it is. Are you fulfilled enough that you are not in battle with your mind and you're more in sync with the thoughts that are going through your mind, even if they're negative thoughts, like? Are you dancing with them, right? Or are you just like, like I have to purge them or I'm scared of them, or I won't do these things because I have these thoughts?

Mondo:

I feel like part of this enhanced conscious experience is really building a more healthy, intimate relationship with the words that come in and go out. And so I'm curious for you was there a season where you really had to get a lot of reps in with the words that were coming in, that didn't, that shouldn't have been there, or that like you had to wrestle with? Like, was there a season in your life where that was true?

Laura:

Absolutely, absolutely, and it's. I mean that's those are the times that I've been the most depressed or anxious, because I'm, I'm living in my head and it's when you, when you drop from your head to your heart, that you're able to see. Oh my gosh, here's a thought, and, like you know, we've talked about the fly swatter, right Like, that's not from me, that's not my, I don't think that's just a thought. But when I have a higher level of awareness and I know myself as this divine, eternal being, then I have power over those thoughts and I can choose which ones I want to believe in.

Mondo:

Yeah, do you believe that the and I don't want to say thoughts that come to your heart, from your heart, but the feeling or energy or essence that comes from your heart is in conflict with your mind, or was there a season where they were in conflict?

Laura:

Oh yeah, hello, the human experience.

Mondo:

The reason why I framed that up is just for somebody that might be struggling with that, because, like that is the majority, I believe, of that inner work is finding the balance between your heart and your mind. So, like, last night I was watching Lucy, a Scarlett Johansson movie. I don't know if you've seen it, but essentially it's one of the greatest movies, it's one of my favorite movies. So Scarlett Johansson essentially like, gets pumped with all these drugs, and the drugs like enhance her awareness, and so the theme is we only use 10% of our brain and she was pumped with so many drugs that it unlocks certain parts of her brain, and so the movie kind of goes through a series of. This is what it would be like if you use 20%, 30%, 50%, and it really does a great artistic expression of like showing a human who completely like, blows it out of the water and just hits that next level. But what's interesting to me, if you really like pay attention to the details of that movie, is as she goes from 10 to 20 to 50 to 70, she loses her relationship with her heart, and so it's a great example of it's not about seeking all the knowledge and knowing everything and being connected to like only the intellectual side of yourself, because the end of the movie is she essentially turned herself into like a cosmic flash drive right and gave it to Morgan Freeman Like this is everything in the universe, this is all the knowledge.

Mondo:

And I guess I'm telling the story is because the number one thing that I took away is she lost her humanness. She gained all the knowledge and lost her connection to like want to have a intimate relationship with humans, and so, as we continue to like push for a smarter society we got AI doing all the intellectual work I feel like we are entering a season where finding balance with our heart, or leading with our heart, may be the next like evolution of humans, to like start there or, like you said, drop from your head to your heart, and I feel like a lot of us are being called to do that, to lead in that way, and I just want to like applaud you because I feel like every day, you're just like yeah, mind all, I'm finding that balance or I'm living in that balance. I'm doing my best to do the same too, but I just feel like that is next up. There's going to be certain humans who just have that.

Laura:

Well, I had a moment yesterday. I'm going to try not to cry because I can't tell you how many years that I spent with my laptop, thinking I had to do the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and I missed out. I missed out on my kids and the special moments. And last night we were at the park and the sun was setting and I was holding my five-year-old. I was like nothing like this. Is it Like this moment? This, is it Like this moment? How many more moments of like this can I experience? Oh, mom, look at all the different colors. And then, like this flock of birds came and just like everything was perfect, it was perfect, and I just like weeped Because I had to forgive old Laura for missing out on that.

Mondo:

Yeah.

Laura:

But it's like okay, now that I know better, I'm going to do better, so I'm going to shut that laptop down. All those emails can wait, these strangers that want my time. I'm like what's more important? Getting back to strangers that want my time, or my kids who are right in front of me, and how many years I chose all these people wanting my time and they all deserved a response and I'm just burning that down yeah just burning it down choosing that.

Mondo:

So so what Laura just said I feel like is so key because me loving media, if you watch amazing movies, I feel like there's typically a parent in amazing movies where they have to make that choice or not, right, like I always go back to a hook or Peter Pan or Robin Williams and it's like the movie is all about him losing his kid self and not paying attention to his kids and having to go back to is it never, never land? Is it never, never land? Can't remember, but like he just has to find himself, find his kid version of himself and recognize. Like all these things that I've been doing at work is not bringing me joy, it's irrelevant. And so again, if anybody want, go watch 94 Hook.

Laura:

If you want to cry, yes, oh my gosh, it's just such a great movie and such a great representation of what you're saying.

Mondo:

Because when that clarity hits, when you believe it, it's like in the movie, like he can fly again or he can see again.

Laura:

But it truly is. I am seeing colors differently, I experience this amazing oneness with all around me, and I'm having these moments of oh, this is what I came here for to experience this beauty in this moment, wow, and I allowed myself to just play. Just play. Oh mom, you want to do like floor is lava? Sure, let's do floor is lava.

Mondo:

Yeah, what you know how people like project and plan out a a story or see the dominoes fall. The contrast to that is, if you don't do that, if you don't spend time with your kids, your kids are going to grow up and they are going to feel like they are inadequate or felt like they missed out because they didn't receive that love, and so then they then bring that same, maybe energy, to their kids, and then the cycle repeats. It repeats, and so choosing to have faith and say I'm going to be the best mom or the best dad first Right, I know I still have these other responsibilities, but to the best of my ability I'm going to be the best parent, and then everything else is secondary is a huge choice to make, but I think it completely like changes the fabric of your reality.

Laura:

But it's so interesting too to see like we're all just kind of finding our way. I like I look at my husband. He's so great at being in the present moment Unbelievable and somehow I knew that when I picked him, because he is just always in the present moment and I didn't appreciate that until this year. It took me that long to see. I used to get so upset why can you just sit on the couch when there's all of these other things to do around the house? I would be like, excuse me, lazy butt, come on and now, oh, there's something really beautiful about his ability just to tune it all out and just be here now, even though that is he's just watching sports or he's watching something with the kids. Like just we're all given these different gifts and like how can we really learn from each other?

Mondo:

so would you say that, because relationships matter. Were you and brian on opposite ends of the spectrum and did you talk about it back then? Nope, okay, it just. You just just was. Yeah.

Laura:

And he has noticed such a difference in me and he's like you're fun to hang out with. Not that I wasn't, but I was very high strung Like things needed to be the way that Laura needed them to be, like a little more controlling, and I'm just so much more go with the flow and accepting of what is versus fighting against what is. I think so many times I didn't accept that what is and like there's just a beauty about whatever's coming in. Just accept it. Accept it and there's peace in that, versus fighting against it.

Mondo:

Yeah, I think we talked about this before and you brought it up the other day how we can go into a big meeting or an environment where we're just like, we prep for it. We did a lot of stuff and then somebody who may have been perceived as a key stakeholder decided to be late or to not show up Right, and a lot of the times, our immediate response would be like defensive and like how could you do that?

Mondo:

Why are you not here? And all these other things. And I believe we made this pivot to choose to believe it is what it is. Everybody that's supposed to be here is here, right, and so I just wanted to say that out loud, because that's a prime example of accept what is choose to believe that whatever is happening, whoever is on your team, whoever's in your house, whoever you see in the morning when you wake up, is exactly who is supposed to be there. There is some gift there for you. You two are supposed to help each other grow or learn from each other, or something like. Whatever is right now is 100% right for you and everyone around you, and choosing that is the choice.

Laura:

You crossed my mind. I sent you that voice memo the other day because we were having a meeting and this one woman couldn't attend and again, old Laura would have been pissed like so pissed. And then I was like no, accept it. Accept it Like the people that are in the room are the people that need to be in the room. And it is what it is Pure acceptance.

Mondo:

Pure acceptance. It's so funny because the simplicity of it, like you know, when you're growing up and like a I don't want to call somebody old, so I'll say a season like a seasoned human would say something that's like so simple, but it's like some old wisdom that they got from, like their great grandparents or something, and for some reason you just don't get it until you're like 40. I feel like the things that we say on this podcast is like that, because we're just like, except what is like there's nothing mind blowing about that. It is actually that simple but for some reason, like we conflate it and make it way deeper than that. For some reason, like we need to understand. Actually, let me go there.

Mondo:

I was watching the Chosen. I watch the Chosen so much. I was watching the Chosen and Jesus was essentially trying to get his disciples to follow his guidance without understanding. Essentially saying, right now, given the information you have, you cannot understand it. You have to make this choice by faith, because that is the muscle that I need you to work out. Up until this point this is me now kind of elaborating on Jesus's point in the show Up until this point, every choice you made was qualified through logic made sense to you. I need you to make choices that don't make sense and you're following your heart, right. And so how many of us are called in a season to follow our heart when we're sitting next to somebody that is driven by logic? And so the reason why, like, I'm really emphasizing this right now, is because I call, or I challenge, the logical mind and the heart mind to believe that in this season, they're both right, like the logical mind that's worrying about everything being in the right place and money is being brought in and all that stuff like that is 100 percent necessary. Thank you for doing that work. And this person that has to wander in the wilderness spiritually, like they have to do that work and lean on the person that is stable, and because that Batman and Robin happens on the other side, when the blessings come from that spiritual journey, then that person who was the stability, it's their turn. Or they get to sit back and be like, oh, I can receive these fruits because you went and did something that made no sense to me, but I chose to have faith.

Mondo:

What do you say to the people who say I don't have anyone? That's good. I believe that there is a stretch. Right For my track stars, if you're running that 400, eventually you get to that final stretch, that final 100. And it is, it is will, right. It's just like your will versus the will of other people on that track.

Mondo:

And I feel like some people, of all people, eventually in their spiritual journey feels like there is nobody else that gets it or gets them, even if somebody is sitting right next to them. So, to answer your question, some people are like I have nobody and there may be some truth to that. Like they're looking around, they're like I don't have anybody to turn or to lean on. Okay, then the flex might be the church is right across the street. I need you to walk in there, I need you to take the next step to go find that community that has always been there, but you've been too stubborn to do it Right. There's always somebody there, but you've been too stubborn to do it right, there's always somebody. However, there's also a different person who might be surrounded by people and I'm saying this because I found myself in this seat many times over who's surrounded by loving people but still feel isolated because nobody else quite understands. So it still feels like there's this island there understands, so it still feels like there's this island there, and so I have to then make the choice to be like God. It's just me and you which I sent you the audio message the other day.

Mondo:

I was just like I just talked to God.

Mondo:

We were just sitting and I was just like all right, god, I literally this is what I said.

Mondo:

I was like I was like God, I feel like I'm called to talk to you because I don't out loud as much as I probably should.

Mondo:

And I was, like I always say, I felt like I've been on heaven, on Earth's porch, right Like to convince myself that everything is working out the way that it's supposed to work out. Like I've made these words work for me. But I was like, just in case. Like I've made these words work for me, but I was like, just in case I'm confused or I'm misled, please align me so I am following your will. And then, in Jesus name, amen, being in a position where I felt like I was in isolation or I felt like there was nobody else that I could actually talk to that could give me the right words back that I needed, I had to use my imagination or my belief or my faith, to just talk to the spirit of the universe the creator to give me some peace or give me some guidance or give me some words, and so that's a long way of saying if you are alone and you feel like you don't have anybody, it is to flex and stretch you so you go talk to God independently.

Mondo:

Over and over and over, that was long Amen, amen.

Laura:

I also have noticed a trend in many people I've spoken with recently and I talk to a lot of people.

Laura:

And it's so great to hear a lot of individuals who have had these jobs where they get to work from home and they're remote, coming out and they're like I want to meet people, I want to get out of my house, I want to go be with people in real life. Yeah, and that is something that, oh my gosh, think about over time what that does to the human spirit when you really aren't in a community or not physically seeing other beings.

Mondo:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting because I have this. I'm definitely an omnivert. Like I can go be extrovert and stand on stage and speak to people for 60 minutes, 90 minute max. After that don't call me to the next event. I gotta go recharge. But on the flip side, I feel like yo, you're marathon when it comes to people, like they bring you energy yeah and like you can keep going and so I feel like I just like, I'm like like a hop.

Laura:

It's just like fill up, fill up, fill up, fill up. I think at a networking event I literally I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm just like hopping. And at one point I was like I was like dancing. I'm like, am I dancing at a networking event? What's happening right now? But I was so joyful and I just felt like that is exactly my role to play. And later that day two people text me and they're like I just want you to know that you had such an amazing effect on me and just, oh yeah, just be you.

Laura:

Be, weird, quirky, authentic you and you have no idea how that's going to impact another human.

Mondo:

Man, that's so contrastingly good to hear. Right, I know we always just talk about the mandalora different and for some reason we just touch in the middle.

Mondo:

But it's like if I go to a networking event I am moving as slow as a turtle, like you're hopping around and I'm just like I'm staying here and eventually I'm going to catch eyes with the one person I'm supposed to talk to for the next 15 minutes, and then it just happens, or somebody just pulls up, and so it's yeah, it's funny how it's weird, like it's it's volume almost yeah it's.

Laura:

It almost feels like an adrenaline rush.

Mondo:

I want, man. If I go to a networking event, I just want to have this one really deep conversation, while everybody else is just talking about a whole bunch of stuff. I want somebody to be like man, what are they talking about? That's where I get my joy from. Not that it's right or wrong, I'm just highlighting what fills my cup and how. It's just different. Mm, hmm, mm, hmm. Moving forward, though, I think we need to highlight something that is extremely important, being that we are leaning into it more on this podcast, which is your book.

Laura:

Oh, this podcast which is your book.

Mondo:

So can you just highlight for a minute why did Laura King choose to write a book? Why is that even a thing that has manifested into reality?

Laura:

It doesn't make logical sense. It was not even my choice. It felt choiceless. It felt choiceless because I've always felt like I have a call in my life to share, because I'm in the trenches, going through these really hard times, and Not that I've figured everything out, but, holy cow, I have unlocked this new way of operating in the world and when you get that, you want to share, you genuinely want to share. But initially the book was a way for me to just start processing what I was going through.

Laura:

Okay, yeah it was a way of almost accessing my higher self, and I'm telling you that it's one of those things where it's the discipline, and so many times I would get these downloads of like okay, laura, you actually wrote this already. Go back and read it and I would sit with my own words and I'm like thank you, god. So I literally feel like it's channeled from God. These are not even my words and they were my lessons to learn, some of which I'm still in the process of learning, and yet it's almost given myself a roadmap of like oh, all the answers are actually within me. For so many years, I thought I had to go out there to find it. It's all out there and realizing it's all in here, and then to now know like oh yeah, I think I got a chapter on that.

Mondo:

Hey, that's funny. I think I got a chapter on that.

Laura:

But it's honestly, it's the repetition of it. It's repetition. I think right now we are being bombarded with so much information when the best thing I've done is things that I really want to learn, really want to embody. I read the same couple pages over and over, and over and over and over, because repetition is the mother of all skill, mother of all skill. The repetition of it somehow gets into just the way, like the integration of it. It's one thing to know it, it's another thing to actually live it.

Mondo:

Mm. Yeah, it reminded me of kind of that repetition piece. I remember this probably like five years ago at this point, but Eric Thomas still, I think, the number one motivational speaker in the world. He did an album, maybe eight to ten tracks. That's like some of his speeches or motivational moments, and one of them something that I never forgot he was like I'd rather you read a thousand pages Well, no one page a thousand times than a thousand pages once. To your point like getting that repetition and believing those words all in, so like it becomes this unbreakable shield force thing that you just you can't get around it because you've integrated it so much into your beingness that it just is. So, yeah, that repetition piece is key. I love that piece is key.

Laura:

I love that Part of it too is like when I really thought about it. I've had such an intimate inside view of what's going on in the world, at least with a lot of professionals in the work that I do as a recruiter, because I have these people who are unhappy in their job or for whatever reason they're open to a new opportunity, talking to me and they share stuff about their job. But inevitably we learn about each other's lives and I watch them and I see them light up when they talk about their passions, their interests, what brings them alive, and then I see them talk themselves out of that. Well, that's just not possible. Hello, I did it. How many years? Talk myself out of it? That's just not possible. I've got four kids. My husband left his job to go open a music school Money's tight. All this kids. My husband left his job to go open a music school Money's tight, all this. And I thought what are we doing?

Laura:

What are we showing our kids? Yep, it's possible for other people, but not me, not us Like following your dreams.

Mondo:

It's good for those people, but not me. Okay, so you always talk about old Laura versus new Laura. Is there a? It's a two part question. Is there a or do you envision? Is there a newer Laura? Is there a newest Laura? And the reason why I say that is because there was a season in your life where you didn't believe that you could follow your dream. Then you changed your mind and then you followed it, and now you're at a different checkpoint. So is there even a?

Laura:

newer dream. Oh, it's whatever. I mean. God's highest will on, you know, call on my life and I. You know I get clues and so I have. You know I've told you about how I love experiences. So wouldn't it be so cool to have a conference one day and just the music and the movement and the people coming alive. And you know I love personal development, development. So there's something with how can I bring more personal development to the masses, but ultimately it's like it's a full-on faith walk yeah, yeah, I.

Mondo:

I receive that all all the way, and the reason why I receive it all the way is because I feel like we god gives us the freedom to go create our own dream, go do a thing without him I am a prime example of that and then to reset or to then go follow his will. For some it's just a slight pivot because it's parallel to what they've been doing. To others it's a vastly different journey. It's just like I think one of J Cole's favorite, or one of my favorite quotes from J Cole is bro, you went a long way, but you went the wrong way, and so like there's been some times where I'm like man, I've climbed this ladder. If I keep climbing, I feel like it's up against the wrong wall, so like I got to do a somersault off of it.

Mondo:

Um, but I say that because, for the humans who who have always been driven and have always believed in the unimaginable thing I'm saying this subjectively that it's likely the thing that we anchor on, the success, the money, the fame, the fortune, like those things seem to be the thing that we are called to do.

Mondo:

Yes, and God's like yo, the person who has all that money it's hard for them to get into heaven. It's like what is it like? A, an elephant going through the pin of a needle or something like some analogy, because surrendering all the things that you thought for the most fulfilling thing is actually going to be extremely hard. And so I'm just saying these words because there's some somebody, young, hungry, on the way of like I'm going to go conquer the world and do all these things and become the next Bill Gates, elon Musk, whatever like do and cool, like money is going to be, there is going to hit. But I'm asking you to pause and be like all right, god, is this what you want me to do? Because if it's not, I might go and do all this stuff and then be too scared to let it go. And so I say that because I got to a point where I had just got far enough that I wasn't too afraid to let it go.

Mondo:

But if I would have had a couple million, a bank, or 20 million a bank or a hundred million a bank, would I have made the choice that I made? I don't know. And so, man, wherever you're at right now, to Laura's point like, eventually, the final step is following God's will. So, like, ask God, am I doing the thing you want me to do right now? And if it's not a resounding yes, then like, like, do some deep reflection and figure out what that next step is, because you want to hear it now as opposed to later.

Laura:

Well, insert almost all of my coaching clients. I mean it's so fun, so fun to see people who have had these like the stirrings or the rustlings or like something feels off and I'm able to sit down with them and we have just a conversation and I see exactly where they light up. And I'm thinking of this one woman shout out to Tia, if you're listening. She loves home organization, all organization, and she was laid off from her marketing role. She has an MBA. She's just unbelievable and everything that she's learned up till now she's applying now in her home organizational business and it brings her so much joy business and it brings her so much joy. And she was literally in my house last week and it was just so magical to see her operate in her element and then to share all these ideas she has about how she could market it and all these other different product ideas. And she's got some marketing contracts on the side. So she's building this portfolio career and it's just so lit up. It's so fun to be around people that are joyous.

Mondo:

Yeah.

Laura:

And this is happening with so many other people who are starting what they may call a side hustle, but it's the intention of well, one day day, I'd love for this to be my main hustle.

Mondo:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. I, yes, and I feel like the like, the human that that person turns into, is like a different human. Yeah, I think that's why we called this podcast heavenly human, cause there's just something about making these choices and like evolving as a character. The business of things that we create and do is one thing, but who we become it's who we become.

Laura:

Yeah, Because we were at an Easter egg hunt another mutual friend over the weekend and I got to meet Tia's husband, who thanked me, and I'm like if I played a small part in this transformation in this household, I'm like Ed, it's all worth it. It took me stepping outside my comfort zone to say, oh, I think I can coach people, To then invite a Tia into a coaching relationship for her to then make these changes and like think about that entire ripple effect.

Mondo:

Okay, well, as we, as we wrap this up, what would you, what would be your call to action to a budding Tia, to another Tia that's out there on the fence, or kind of stewing in it, a little bit Like what would you call them to do today or tomorrow?

Laura:

I would call them to pen and paper, Like, just what does a dream day look like for you? Like what does a perfect day look like? And then begin to say, hmm, what small piece of that dream day can I start doing today? Small, small steps.

Laura:

Baby steps, baby steps, gerber steps, small, small steps, baby steps, baby steps, gerber steps, cause what you're, what that person's going to find out, is that when they're operating in their full expression, who God created them to be, they're going to get the feedback from all people around them to say yeah.

Mondo:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

Mondo:

The the last thing that I'll close with that I think is starting to mature a little bit more, is those humans who are in their right seat, their divine seat, and how I do think we're coming together other randomly and I think there is a kind of like new I don't want to say revolution, evolution like there's just something else kind of nurturing in humanity to contrast the negativity that has been bubbling up for the last decade.

Mondo:

And if you believe that you are one of those people or want to be one of those people, like, continue to tune into this podcast or send this podcast to another person, because hopefully we start to be a trusted voice to those humans. And eventually, those serendipitous moments where other heavenly humans stumble upon others and it's like, oh man, like oh you too, you too, you too, and like these little pockets in different communities, like these good humans that just want to do good, come together. Somebody that is super creative, somebody that is sitting on $100 million, somebody that's a chef, somebody that's a chef and somebody that's a teacher, right, like are just all in relationship with each other and somehow, you know, the Avengers assembled.

Laura:

And to that I'll end with this, a text message I got yesterday. If we're not here to lift each other up and give each other some love, I'm not sure what we're here for.

Mondo:

Well, I would say, drop the mic, but you just bought that mic, so don't drop it. Well to the listeners, Laura and I are out of here. Peace.