Heavenly Human
Welcome to the Heavenly Human podcast where we help you pause and pivot toward true fulfillment.
Have you ever felt that stirring deep inside — that quiet voice telling you there's something more for your life? That feeling that despite all your success, something still feels missing?
We’ve been there. We are you. Three years ago, co-host Laura King was at the peak of her career as an Executive Recruiter. On paper, she had it all. Awards, accolades, and a healthy bank account. But each night, she’d come home feeling slightly off, a bit disconnected, and wondering, "Is this it?"
In 2023, it all came crashing down with a triple diagnosis - severe anxiety, ADHD, and sleep issues. Her body was screaming what her heart had been whispering for years. There was another path. There was another way of being.
Co-host Mondo experienced a similar calling. Three years ago, he was living what many would consider the dream — a successful startup founder with a six-figure lifestyle. Then, his heart called him to something radical: surrendering 99% of his material possessions to pursue a completely different path.
What Laura and Mondo both discovered through deep conversations, healing, tears, breakthroughs, and countless moments of growth was that we were being called to our unique sliver of Heaven on Earth — what we now call, Heavenly Human.
We've now joined forces to create this podcast, sharing what we've learned with other believers who feel that same nudge toward something more meaningful. We're here to guide you toward fulfillment through the embodiment of heaven on earth.
Peace, Love, Joy, Freedom, Abundance.
It’s all waiting for you.
"Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."
Heavenly Human
Releasing Judgment: Courageous Conversations Nobody's Having
Through a rollercoaster conversation touching on infidelity, judgment, and spiritual growth, Mondo and Laura unpack the transformative journey toward embodying mercy, pure-heartedness, and peacemaking.
Laura introduces a powerful distinction between perpetual self-improvement and genuine self-acceptance. Many of us remain trapped in cycles of "fixing" ourselves when what we truly need is to release judgment. "When you release judgment, that's when you can go into this: I'm whole and complete and loved as I am," she explains. This shift from judgment to grace creates space for authentic spiritual expansion.
The most compelling insight emerges when discussing our "internal guidance system"—that intuitive compass that often conflicts with our logical mind. This misalignment causes discomfort because we're designed to expand, express, and explore beyond our comfort zones. Through touching stories, including Laura's son confronting existential questions about heaven and hell, they illustrate how spiritual awakening ripples through families and communities, creating opportunities for healing conversations across generations.
Listen now and discover how releasing judgment of yourself and others might be the transformation you've been seeking all along.
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On this episode, laura and I have a rollercoaster conversation where we touch on infidelity, judgment and Jesus Christ. This segment is radically transparent and we unpack what it looks like to become a merciful and pure-hearted peacemaker, aka Heavenly Human. So let's jump right in.
Laura:Like have mercy. What does that mean?
Mondo:So I was actually thinking about that one the most today Because, pure in heart, I feel like I've always been that Also, being a peacemaker, trying to make sure ain't nobody fighting and arguing or whatever. I was always skilled at that, but mercy is something that I needed to experience first to understand it. So I won't go on a long story, but through my faith walk there was a season where it just looked like Armageddon was going to happen, like everything was going to crumble. If it's just like A equals B, equals C, Well, man, if C hits ABC, like I just see this happening. And then God was just like no, no, no, no, no. Like I show mercy, we're never going to get to see Right, this is going to be A, B, A, B, A, B. And just the fear that God put in my spirit to like show me, this thing can happen. I have control over this thing happening, but I'm not going to let it happen because you're being obedient. Let it happen because you're being obedient, Because I experienced that so many times, over and over and over. I was like, oh, how do I become a more merciful person? So I'll give you an example.
Mondo:This is you talk about old Mondo, new Mondo or old Laura, new Laura, Old Mondo, new Mondo or old Laura, new Laura. Old Mondo was extremely selfish. We talk about this right, but one of my selfish qualities was my relationship with significant others and for me it was oftentimes counter to a traditional relationship. So old Mondo used to look at marriage right and like 50% success rate. I'm a problem solver. Those odds don't work for me, so I just can't opt into that lifestyle because it just doesn't make sense. And so I was more of a depending on the season of life. I was more of a open relationship, multiple partners or I didn't mind being the side dude for somebody who had a partner and sometimes even had a spouse, and I was able to reconcile that because I was always honest, Like up front. I would always say like this is my reason for being here, this is what I can offer, this is what I'm unwilling to offer, Choose in or out right. Like I didn't want to manipulate somebody and hide stuff or whatever. I was just always up front.
Mondo:And what I found through that journey is that truth typically led to a lot of opt-ins. Like it felt different, it felt refreshing to the other party to just hear somebody say the things out loud and then be like I'm open to explore that. I bring that up because in situations where I was in union for the lack of a better word with someone who had a spouse, there was a better version of me would have shown some different mercy. I would have took a step back and been like, oh well, if you have kids, maybe I shouldn't Right. Or if your husband X Y Z, maybe I shouldn't Right. Or if your husband X Y Z, maybe I shouldn't, Even though you're willing to opt in. I have to show mercy in a way, because I know eventually this is going to blow up in your face, not mine. Right.
Mondo:I'm the single man that can just leave and come, and so many of times I would step in. It would be amazing and dope for months or years or whatever, and then it will blow up in the other person's face and then they would have to then pick up the pieces. And now I'm, like Mondo, being a better version of yourself is showing mercy, knowing that that's the outcome. And so, one, don't even put yourself in that position, but two, if that seems to just fall into your lap somehow, you have to turn it down Right, because you know it is not of. It was aligned with my relationship with other partners.
Laura:Well, first of all I mean thanks for being so vulnerable with that.
Mondo:Yeah, yeah. I mean there was a season in my life where everybody in my inner circle knew I was the oddball when it came to relationships, right Like Mondo's just going to do what Mondo is going to do. But I just always felt I never felt like the villain because I never misled anybody. And still I reached these intersections in my life where I was like I still have to be better.
Laura:Did you reach a point in your your faith? Walk where you're like oh, I need to ask for forgiveness for that.
Mondo:So I'll say no. And here's why. And this might be something that I have to reflect on when, when I saw just talk about married women specifically and it's not like I've messed with like 50 married women, I'm not saying that as just a couple, but when I would mess, when I had a relationship with a married human, I somehow reconciled that this person feels stuck. They are unwilling to be brave and do the brave thing, which is say something out loud to your partner or leave it because it's unhealthy or whatever. And so to me I was like well, I'm adding value to your life, right, like somehow, some way, like that is how it worked in my head, like somehow I am a shepherd in your life to help you become more brave or take a bold step or get caught and get pushed Right and start the new cycle in your life.
Mondo:And so I never had to ask for forgiveness to me because I just never felt that need. It was like those things did happen and it blew up. But like, fast forward, I'm like everything happens exactly how it should. Why I'm not going to say like God sent me there to mess up the why. I'm not going to say like God sent me there to mess up the marriage. Like I'm not going to say that, but I just never felt the need or desire to like ask for forgiveness, given my truth.
Laura:I don't know why this came to me, but like someone's listening to this and they're totally judging you right now. Oh, yeah. They're totally judging you right now.
Mondo:Oh yeah, they're totally judging you, absolutely.
Laura:And I think that's part of my gift is that I just see things from so many different perspectives, like I invite so many different perspectives, and I can like literally hear people chirping in my ear of what their responses would be to what you just said, and I can hear all the responses and yet I'm like that's something for them to work out. Yeah. Like whatever you're judging, that's, that's your stuff.
Mondo:I agree.
Laura:But like that's. That is like. What we're getting at is how many times are we pointing the finger at someone else, saying you're in the wrong, I'm a better person than you because X, Y, Z.
Mondo:Yeah, that's so spot on. That's like like how?
Laura:how many of us are just pointing at other people being like I'm this way because you made me this way? Dang that's versus going back to a previous recording we had about radical responsibility taking radical responsibility If you're feeling something like that's yours, that's not someone else's, that's yours.
Mondo:And I think that's so powerful and and also like I've discovered through my walk, that the things that I judge others on or may pause and be like oh dang, I'm judging somebody Right, like like those things typically like find their way into my life where I'm in the reverse position. Rather, it's somebody close to me now navigating that Like let's just say it's a cousin and a cousin is going through it and I'm like, oh man, that other person is just Mondo Right. Like and I'm just like oh okay.
Mondo:So then I have a different level of empathy, because maybe the person in my life on the other side is navigating like that. And so I definitely would say having a daughter played a huge role in my shift, because once I recognized that like everything comes full circle, yeah Right, I was like there's no way I'm going to continue this behavior. If now in my awareness, I think this could lead to my daughter having to experience this, now, early on, when this was happening, like that wasn't part of my awareness, but as soon as it was, as soon as that became like a maybe it was like well, then you might want to change your behavior.
Laura:And so could there have been a way it came into your awareness sooner.
Mondo:Yeah, I don't, I don't know and I don't even think it's. I don't think it was necessary to come into my awareness sooner, because maybe I wouldn't have the courage to talk out loud about it like I am right now. Yeah, yeah, enough. Things happen in a way that Allows me to, like, not look at that version of myself with any shame. It allows me to not look at that version of myself with any shame. The things that I had to reconcile with certain humans, I reconciled those things, and so I just have a lot of grace at this point. And yeah, here's an example. Here's an example of grace. I know grace isn't one of the things that I said, but I think we should add grace onto it.
Mondo:It seems like it.
Laura:It really seems like think about this how many people judge themselves? When they should be could be giving themselves grace. Yeah.
Mondo:Grace.
Laura:Cause that. So, when I think about my whole cycle of, I mean, I've always had this thing about me of like always wanting to be better, always like reaching for, uh, the peak version of myself. But I was in a cycle of of always thinking I needed to improve, like it was almost like stuck in the cycle of like, well, I need to do more healing, I need to do this and do that, versus all I needed to do was release judgment. When you release judgment, that's when you can go into this like, oh, I'm whole and complete and loved as I am. Yeah.
Laura:Like versus. I always need to be fixing myself. I always need to be getting better. Like you could literally stay in that cycle your entire life. I agree.
Laura:Versus you can then make a decision, decide oh, I love myself, yeah, not from like an egoic perspective, but just I can look at myself in the mirror and not berate myself and not be my worst critic. And so getting from that always perpetual cycle of I'm not enough. I need to do more. I need to be more. I need to whatever more I need to fix people. I need to do more. I need to be more, I need to whatever more. I need to fix people. I need to change things. Like you could just release judgment of like maybe it is exactly the way it's supposed to be and then move into complete, unconditional love.
Mondo:I love that. I I'll I'll sidestep grace for a second Cause. I want to go to the unconditional love piece, aligned with heavenly human, I would say on an abstract level. When I just think about the imagination of humans, I think about Disney World, Right, and I'm like we have, when I say Disney World, like there's a slight smile like oh yeah. Disney World is good.
Mondo:I don't know if you've been to Disney World, but it's just a magical place and if you ask 100 people about Disney World, 99 are going to have a positive, good-feeling response response. The reason why heavenly human hit for me was because when somebody says heaven, nothing about heaven feels wicked or nasty or ugly. It has just been planted into our psyche with such positive energy and essence that if you choose to embody whatever you believe, heavenly human is how you are going to operate in heaven. Well, it's going to look something like Disney World, like that type of energy, right?
Mondo:And so I feel like there are so many like sub categories and identities. Rather, I'm and we're arguing with each other because you're an opposition to my subculture, right? However, like heaven is an umbrella, like nobody's, like, well, I'm on the West side of heaven and we don't mess with people on the East side of heaven, like that's not even a thing. And so the imagination of heavenly human allows people to like, kind of build their own character, but know, like, if I make a choice that is condescending or backstabbing or unhealthy, you know, without a doubt, that's not heavenly, right, like you check yourself, you're just like yeah, god, I know that wasn't heavenly. Let me, let me get better. And so this whole like push for heavenly human, a lot of it is just being able to self-assess because you know in your mind and in your heart yeah, you have an internal guidance system.
Mondo:Yes.
Laura:You have an internal guidance system and, like I think that might be part of why a lot of people feel misalignment, is because their internal guidance system is like leading them somewhere else and their logical mind is saying Nope, Nope, Nope. Yeah.
Laura:And, like that guidance system is going to keep after you until you make some changes or until you make some bold choices. I just I that that's my belief system, whether you want to believe that or not. Um, because you're here to expand, because you're here to expand, you're here to express, you're here to explore, and many of us clearly are like this whole way of life that we've been living. We're like we don't want our kids to do that. Right.
Laura:I was like I literally look at so many, so many people. They do not want their children to do what they're doing, dang that's real and when I ask them, I'm like, okay, well, what is your dream?
Laura:like so many people haven't even given themselves permission to dream, but, like, when you can get back in touch with that imagination, that play, all that it's, it will come to you. And it might not even be like this you have to quit your job. It might just be go play with your kids, go take your wife out to dinner, go re-engage with someone in your community. Like you're going to get these little nudges and then, when you follow the nudge, that's where, like the feel good chemicals come in. It's like your brain gives you these hits of like oh yeah, more of that, please. Yeah.
Laura:More of that, please.
Mondo:You're tuning into that younger version of yourself, that kid version, that kid spirit. I mean. Every morning, now again, just to build or reach back to an old routine routine. I eat cereal every morning, poured my life cereal, got my milk. There, looking at the back of the cereal box and just like, oh, my gosh, just that, it's just like. Oh, I remember doing this so frequently. No phone, no, you know. And so, yeah, I think it sparks something else. When you to your point, that guidance system that's trying to guide you to something else, something different, wrapped into an unhealthy job or unhealthy relationship or unhealthy friendship or whatever like that leaks over into your kids. And so when they see that, they're just like, I guess this is what I can look forward to as an adult. Or, on the flip side, if those kids see something else, right, like kids become a version of their parents, right, even though their parents might be like don't do what I do, right, if they see their parent doing something every day, day in, day out, they're likely going to adopt those same type of behaviors. So, yeah, yeah. I want to say one more thing about kind of that heaven umbrella, and this is outside the box and inside the box, okay, I'm ready for it.
Mondo:If someone truly believes that the Jesus Christ story did happen 2000 years ago and he rocked out with 12 disciples, right. If somebody truly believes that that means that it is actually possible for you to put your hand on somebody and heal them. It's happened in the human experience. Now fast forward to today and we just think about all the different jobs and rather it's AI taking over or dead-end jobs or just things that just don't feel fulfilling. Imagine if a heavenly human pathway opened up some new enhancement in just like the spirit being part of our lived experience. And it's like, oh Lord, she's a healer, right. Like she has that heavenly essence to heal, rather it's through touch, rather it's through her voice, rather it's through dance. Like she has that heavenly essence to heal, rather it's through touch, rather it's through her voice, rather it's through dance. Like she just has that thing, or Mondo has it, right.
Mondo:And so when I just think about just the human story, just as a whole mind, body, spirit it's like mind, we're killing it like breakthroughs and technology every day. It seems like right, like we just continue to grow body. If you look at athletes, they're performing at a crazy level, like Olympians, or like record after record, just people doing amazing things. And so, if mind and body are elevating, what's peak performance spirit Like? What's the breakthrough in peak performance spirit? Well, if we look back to 2000 years ago, well, jesus was an embodiment of that becomes to.
Mondo:This is me like just being Mondo to even out the inequities in the world. Because tech is dominating, because certain people have all the power, does the spirit step in and offer a new something right? Because, like, they went on this spiritual journey to like, get that extra thing. And so my belief is God is merciful. God is going to somehow, some way infuse some other thing into the story, where that person in the middle, or that person at the bottom, or that person that endured, or that person that their whole life was, just like God.
Mondo:I believe in you and I know you are going to deliver something great, like they are going to have a unique gift and it's going to completely change the trajectory of the entire story. Because, for somehow, some way, some reason, because everything comes full circle and I don't want to put this out there like in a negative way some reason because everything comes full circle and I don't want to put this out there like in a negative way, but the most powerful people that didn't get there the right way, they're going to have to go back to that person in a community that they stepped on to help heal their grandma to help heal themselves, to help heal their daughter.
Mondo:It's just how the story works. It's the only. I don't want to say it's the only way, but it is such a great way to humble somebody having to walk back and be like yo. I apologize, I have to be better.
Laura:And so, uh well, we're living through like this is the like, the greatest awakening, like we're literally living through it right now and and and that's part of why we're coming together is like okay, because things, when you start things feel shaky, like something that you thought was so foundational. You're like, gosh, is that? What do I even believe? Right, what is real, what's not real, you know, and it just we don't claim to have all the answers, but we're so curious and like, the more curious you are, I do believe you will receive the answers and like it was just I gotta tell you a story that so I am learning Qigong, which is like nothing I'd ever imagined learning in my entire life.
Laura:But as I'm learning to work with my body and energy, what happened is one of my kids got really sick and the practitioners just expect Sometimes, when you continue to work on yourself and raise your vibration, like there's going to be other people around you that purge, like literally, like darkness purging. And so my son, just out of the blue, who had literally gotten sick three weeks ago, got sick again and I reached out to him. He's like, yeah, like this is, this is nothing to be, um, you know, like worried about. But I'm like how can I help him? How can I help him? He just working through this and he, he just helped me see that, like that, like the more that we confront our own darkness, and like see it for what it is like somehow it like doesn't have power over us anymore.
Laura:And I think about how many times in certain environments, when we'd see something dark it was, we were told to just pretend like you didn't see it or stuff it down. And no, now it gets to be brought to the light and the light will heal, the light will transform, the light will love. And I just am like what is happening? Because then two days later, my son comes to me and he's like in tears and he goes and he's like visibly upset. He's like mom, I don't want to go to hell. And I was just like what, where did that come from? And he was just sobbing, he had these visions and so I had this whole talk about him. I'm like, oh my gosh, honey, no, no, no, no, no. Like we get to live heaven on earth and then we'd have this whole conversation about what?
Laura:does heaven on earth look like? And I just felt like, even though I feel like half of parenting is like you're making it up as you go. I felt equipped to be able to have this conversation with my son, who was just so distraught and had just all of this darkness he's seeing, and then we get to talk about what does it mean in this family to live heaven on earth, and what does that look like.
Mondo:This son is how old? Which son is this Ten? Oh, okay, yeah.
Laura:Wow, does that look like? This sun is. How old? Which one is this 10? Oh, okay, yeah, wow. But also like, okay, this is what happens when you start really taking seriously, like working on yourself and being mindful of what kind of energy you're even bringing into your home. I mean, I know we kind of touched on this a little bit before, but I was like like, oh my gosh, I am totally responsible for the dysfunction in my household, cause that was my own stuff that I brought.
Laura:And there were just. They were just like little mirrors for me.
Mondo:Man that's so powerful. Just hearing it's just like just hearing a 10-year-old navigate that and have a person or people in his life to start equipping him with the tools right now. Well, at 13, dude's going to be walking around like a whole light, you know.
Laura:And he was telling me in the car he goes yeah, mom, I talk to Jesus every day. I'm like you do. I'm like so do I? Yeah. What are your conversations like? Yeah. And he goes. Yeah, when, I you know, sometimes I walk by people you know, especially people in wheelchairs, I just pray over them. I was like, I'm like look at him, I just tears, tears, tears.
Mondo:Hey, that is so epic, just hearing that is so epic, just hearing that is so epic. I'm kind of lost for words because at 10 years old, I didn't even know what I believed at 10 years old. So let me ask a question when you coach, is it spiritual, yes, and Christ, or is it Christ, yes, and spiritual?
Laura:Does that make sense?
Mondo:Yeah, I don't know, pay follow um. If somebody is going to hire Laura as a coach, is it clear to them she's a follower of Jesus or is it? Laura can help me with my spiritual breakthrough. Maybe she'll guide me to Jesus, but I don't know.
Laura:Gosh, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
Mondo:I mean, we definitely talk about faith with everyone that I'm coaching right now, with everyone that I'm coaching right now, but I think that's a new unlock for me to go deeper, and the reason why I just I bring that up because I'll never forget and I sent you this voice message the other day I'll never forget the visual that you told me about writing Jesus on that canvas and the blood flowing down. For some reason, just that is etched in my mind.
Laura:Do you know how much I sobbed and sobbed, and sobbed and sobbed, like that was all part of my healing. That was, that was 2023. Oh, 2023. It was Laura's spiral year.
Mondo:That's episode zero for anybody.
Laura:Yeah, but like that's so. It's like yeah, he washed away all of that.
Mondo:Yeah.
Laura:Yeah.
Mondo:And so, anyways, I've just been like very cognizant of that, of like there are all these other different pieces of the puzzle that need to be fulfilled or looked at or touched or washed. But if you never actually get your Jesus piece, then those things aren't fully washed, they're just covered or they're just hidden and so I've been doing my best to be like Mondo how are you leading and how are you showing up?
Mondo:And, for me personally, make sure there's no doubt like where your center is, and uh, that's just been something very just key in my growth and development.
Laura:That's the biggest takeaway I'm going to take from our conversation today.
Mondo:Dope. Yeah Well, thanks for listening and we're out of here. Peace, peace.