Episode 17 - with Guest: Mr. B the Gentleman Rhymer

In this engaging conversation, Mr. B, the Gentleman Rhymer, shares his reflections on loss, humor, and the complexities of family relationships. The discussion delves into personal stories about their fathers, the impact of grief, and the role of music in coping with loss. The conversation also explores the lighter side of death and the afterlife, blending humor with poignant insights. 

In this engaging conversation, Mr. B The Gentleman Rhymer and Dear Psychopomp delve into profound themes surrounding the afterlife, personal beliefs, and the influence of community. They reflect on their experiences with religion, the importance of kindness, and the impact of music in times of sorrow. The discussion also touches on the idea of having a tea party with iconic figures, exploring life lessons, and the bittersweet nature of memories associated with music. The conversation concludes with a heartfelt poetic tribute, emphasizing the uplifting power of art and connection.

takeaways

• Mr. B's unique persona blends humor and tragedy.
• Music can be a powerful tool for healing.
• Grief is a complex and personal journey.
• Cherished memories of loved ones can bring comfort.
• Humor often emerges in the face of loss.
• Family dynamics can complicate the grieving process.
• Estrangement can add layers to grief.
• Imagining death can provoke both fear and curiosity.
• The afterlife is a topic of personal interpretation.
• Finding joy in memories can help navigate sorrow. The afterlife is a complex and personal belief.
• Experiences of death may differ from expectations.
• Community and kindness play a significant role in faith.
• Personal experiences shape one's view of religion.
• Music can provide comfort during difficult times.
• Humor and levity can coexist with sorrow.
• Memories associated with music can change over time.
• Art can be a powerful tool for healing and connection.
• Life lessons often come from personal experiences.
• The importance of gratitude in life and art.

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I hope your weekend is gentle and full of opportunities ♡

Transcript

Dear Psychopomp (00:01.66)
Welcome dear listeners to Dear Psycho Pomp. Your lantern in the fog, your ferryman on the river sticks, your ticket to the eerily charming after party of the consciousness. Today we are joined by a man who seems to have stepped straight from a Victorian seance and into a rather well-appointed recording studio. A dandy with a banjo lele, a bard in brogues, a time traveling tribadour here to charm the living.

He is Mr. B, the gentleman rhymer, purveyor of chat pop and possibly the only person to rap the Queen's English while gazing into the abyss and offering it a cocktail. With a twirl of his mustache and a wink to the reaper, Mr. B reminds us that the line between comedy and tragedy is only as wide as a crisply pressed crease in a fine pair of trousers. So pull up a velvet armchair, light a candle for your ancestors.

and poor a Sherry for your shadow. Dear listeners, please doff your hats for Mr. B, the Gentleman Rhymer. Thank you so much for being here.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (01:09.602)
pleasure. I've never been so eloquently introduced before.

Dear Psychopomp (01:13.422)
I had to do it justice. I've been listening to you since early 2019. So I feel I have to embody the persona. Yes. Yes. So how do you do?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (01:25.986)
Yes, good. That sounds like a plan, yeah.

Very well, very well. It's, yes, I'm Brighton on the south coast of England and it's a lovely sunny day today actually, which is not something we've had very recently. We seem to have a lovely May and then suddenly June arrived, you know, bringing a proper British summer, i.e. lots of rain and lots of cold wind.

Dear Psychopomp (01:48.818)
That sounds like the coast of British Columbia here.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (01:52.034)
There you go, yes.

Dear Psychopomp (01:54.716)
Yes, I wanted to let you know that, you know, my father passed away in December 2018, right before Christmas. He would have loved that. He was a grand gesture kind of guy, you know, going out with a bang. And after he died, the usual music didn't hit anymore.

I didn't carry the same energy. so there was one day I was in my house just, you know, throwing a pity party for one. And I asked the wisdom of the Google speaker and I was like, play music that will make me dance and laugh.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (02:23.662)
Mm-hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (02:45.016)
And voila, Mr. B. And there you were.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (02:45.056)
see. And there I was. Well, who would have known I'd be that high up in Google's estimation? This is true. Yeah. Well, that's a lovely thing to happen.

Dear Psychopomp (02:54.682)
I know, hey, that's how you know you've made it. Yeah. It was, it was, my poor husband had to listen to you for many months straight. I think he's probably memorized your songs better than I have. I've actually made my own Spotify Christmas playlist and looking forward to leaving is on it.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (03:13.07)
I'm very good.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (03:23.246)
Yes. I took that one. I think I almost stole that from Larry David, think. I think he was doing an SNL opening. I was presenting, he was doing these opening monologue. And I think he just said, I think the sentence was, my favorite thing to do is to leave wherever I am, which just sounds such a perfect bit of misanthropy. And perhaps, you know, perhaps relevant to what we're talking about today.

Dear Psychopomp (03:49.648)
Absolutely.

Dear Psychopomp (03:53.544)
True, true. I, yeah. I always like to say that I'm late getting home.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (03:55.159)
ass.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (04:02.22)
Yes.

Dear Psychopomp (04:03.206)
Must go, late to get home.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (04:05.344)
Exactly. Yes. Well, I always try and avoid saying I must my mustache because everyone keeps saying that to me because of the mustache. You know, I try to avoid too many puns.

Dear Psychopomp (04:18.312)
Why?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (04:20.974)
Well, mean, well, perhaps, yes, perhaps. And I do say too many. I mean, you know, it depends, you know, what too many means to people. I know to my own dad, my own father, too many was never enough. He loved a pun. He did like those. Yes, yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (04:20.976)
One can never be too punny.

Dear Psychopomp (04:40.114)
Yes, yes. And I mean, thank you so much for bringing him up. I know that you've lost your father recently. And my heart goes out to you. It's a specific kind of...

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (04:54.903)
Thank you.

Dear Psychopomp (04:59.954)
feeling that you only know once you've felt it.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (05:04.566)
Yes, it's very, I mean, I remember us using the word, how are you? What's it like losing our size? It's weird. It's weird. It's, mean, I think, I suppose that's the thing is it's that thing of facing death and that whole concept of just being alive in the first place, being slightly ridiculous. And then suddenly not being alive anymore, being here and then not being here. Also my old friend who designed the Mr. B the Gentleman Rhymer logo and was my...

Dear Psychopomp (05:15.144)
Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (05:33.006)
flatmate when I started doing this, he passed away a few months before my dad actually. So I had a bit of a year. It was a couple of years ago. But yeah, it was a that was a heck of a year. Yeah, yeah. So that was a bit of a one. But yes, weird was definitely one of the things. But maybe it's one those things you say just to make things, you know, to, I don't know, put people at ease, perhaps, or maybe not put them at ease one way or the other, or just to deflect or something. I don't know. But it was just odd.

Dear Psychopomp (05:41.508)
No kidding. wow.

Dear Psychopomp (06:01.746)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (06:02.252)
because it's never exactly how you expect it to be.

Dear Psychopomp (06:06.408)
No. And it was quite unexpected for me.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (06:14.22)
Yes, likewise. Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (06:16.904)
So I wasn't ready. wasn't, you know, I'm a planner. I'm anxious. I'm Canadian. What can I say? So I was, you know, being a death doula, I think about like, okay, you know, how am I gonna act when this happens? And no, I went off script and...

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (06:26.978)
Right.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (06:40.908)
Yeah, exactly.

Dear Psychopomp (06:42.408)
And so, first of all, what's your father's name?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (06:47.936)
It was Lawrence or Laurie as we used to call him. Yes, yes, Lawrence. Yes. It's actually my middle name as well. So there you go. And it was his father's name as well. Apparently my grandmother wanted to call my father Peter. But then in the maternity ward, it turns out the woman that was in the bed next to her had a cat called Peter. And my nan said, well, I'm not naming my son after a cat.

Dear Psychopomp (06:50.19)
Lawrence. lovely.

timeless and classic. love it.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (07:16.151)
So he became Lawrence, which is my grandfather's name.

Dear Psychopomp (07:20.424)
I love that.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (07:21.356)
Which says a bit about my grandmother actually, she was a bit of a character.

Dear Psychopomp (07:25.734)
I can tell, yeah, especially, I mean, if you're taking cat names so seriously, which I would, we have nine animals here. So names are very, they carry meaning and sometimes they just sound good. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (07:30.742)
Yes, true. Wow.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (07:40.046)
Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, I'm definitely an animal lover, but we're in an old sort of Art Deco flat and we're not allowed to have pets here, which is a bit of a shame. So yeah, which is a shame, but there you go. I could just enjoy other people's pets instead. Yeah, yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (07:59.048)
That's fair. I used to live in an apartment that was not allowed to have any animals and I had 17.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (08:04.984)
Mm-hmm.

Okay, there you go. Sticking it to the man.

Dear Psychopomp (08:09.67)
Living life on the edge. Yeah. Watch me go.

I was wondering.

What is your favourite story about your father?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (08:27.84)
blimey, that's, let's have a think.

Dear Psychopomp (08:29.786)
If you could pick one that just lights up your soul.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (08:36.846)
Well, yes, I think. I mean, there are various things I do remember. I think it was on his 80th birthday, we were having a little barbecue in the garden. And he's he's and he was obsessed with our local football team, which were a kind of a non league team. So they were not, you know, they were kind of semi professional, small ground used to get about 700 or 800 people are going to their ground rather than the 70,000 or whatever you that go to

you know, Man United and Chelsea, although he was a Man United fan as well. But he, I think I asked him, I said, what was the best moment of your life? And then I said to him, please don't let the first three words be, I said, remember that mum is here, your wife is here, and please don't let the first three words be when Sutton United. And my dad said, no, no, no, no, it's not that, it's because your mum was at that game as well.

Dear Psychopomp (09:33.96)
Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (09:33.966)
So basically, it was about that, but it was the fact that my mum had come to a Sutley United game with him was the best moment of his life. So yes, that's, mean, yeah, he was sort of slightly daft, but always, you know, I think that's the thing. One of the things I liked, you know, the funeral, there was lots and lots of my friends there and they'd come from, also he died just a little bit before Christmas. So we had to have the funeral in between Christmas and New Year's Eve.

Dear Psychopomp (09:40.786)
Dear Psychopomp (09:59.944)
Mm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (10:00.366)
in that kind of dead spot where people just stay at home and don't do anything. And he was 83 when he passed and there was a many, know, a great many of my friends were there as well because they all, know, everybody liked him. He was just very, he was a very well liked man. And he was kind of very, you know, he's particularly, you know, he's not, yeah, he was very kind of unambitious in his own way. He just liked his life. He like, you know, he, he was happy. This, always think it's a bit of a

has not set me in good stead for life that my parents just never argued. They just seemed to get on all the time and just give each other enough leeway to do whatever it was they wanted to do. And just never seem to always seem to get on and they'd still, you know, walk down the road, road holding hands and that kind of thing. And so, but yeah, so he was just kind of happy with his lot. And I think that was something that came out of him.

Dear Psychopomp (10:47.464)
Aww.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (10:55.842)
just in his being and the fact that, it was really lovely. There so many of, yeah, my friends came along to his funeral that I wasn't expecting at all. And they were all, yeah, we just, we wanted to be here because we really liked him. So that's just a nice thing.

Dear Psychopomp (11:06.856)
Mm-hmm. That's, yeah, that's lovely. It's... The one thing with death is it either brings out the best in people or the worst in people and often nowhere in between. And it's...

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (11:21.568)
Yeah, this is true. This is true. I my my sister, I have my older sister has a learning disability and suffers from some mental health problems and for you know, for the two and a half years or so. Well, maybe it was a two and a half year maybe or year and a half maybe after he died. It was a lot. It was all hands to the pumps trying to keep her together. And it was tricky a lot of the time very difficult. But she seems to have

Dear Psychopomp (11:46.088)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (11:48.426)
settled into a sort of routine. think routine is very important to her. So yeah, but it was something she struggled with a great deal. And it was also because again, it was like your father as well, was relatively sudden. was in hospital for a couple of weeks and then and that was that. yeah, so and we would try to protect her as much as possible while he was in hospital. So he was she was expecting us to come back.

home with him with us and we came back home alone and had to tell her that he wasn't going to be with us anymore. So yeah, that was that's been a tough thing. But at the same time, it's one of those things that keeps you going like, you know, you think, okay, I've got to look after my sister. So just, yeah, don't don't disappear down any anywhere. Just keep going.

Dear Psychopomp (12:20.327)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (12:36.826)
Mm-hmm. It's okay to disappear sometimes. Just don't get lost. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (12:41.72)
yeah, that's true. Yeah, they were certainly no. Yeah, it's just giving yourself that bit of space, isn't it? To just do that for a bit, knowing that, you know, okay, this is me, I'll go down into this hole for a little while, and then I'll be out shortly. Give me a moment please. Or you know, cup of tea that sorts everything out.

Dear Psychopomp (12:57.106)
Yeah, one moment please.

Dear Psychopomp (13:03.302)
Yeah, exactly. It was really difficult with my father because we were estranged at the time because of his alcoholism. And I had a hard time reconciling everything that happened and...

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:12.014)
Right

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:16.078)
I see.

Dear Psychopomp (13:26.824)
You know, that was seven years ago now.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:30.904)
Mm-hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (13:34.812)
So his birthday was June 9th.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:38.08)
Okay, wow. Okay.

Dear Psychopomp (13:39.752)
and I had a little shot of Grand Marnier in his honor. Slightly ironic, probably not quite appropriate, but he would have loved it.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:45.431)
Okay.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (13:53.726)
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I suppose. So we do these strange little things that are not necessarily always particularly appropriate.

Dear Psychopomp (14:02.032)
Yeah, well, my dad was not an appropriate man. He was, and not in a bad way, but he was never good at being serious.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:05.912)
Right.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:12.736)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (14:14.036)
and not to brag or anything, but I have out-dad joked him many times. Many times. I would have been a fantastic father.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:19.63)
Excellent. That's what we like to hear.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:26.518)
Actually, my wife's very my wife and that's how my wife and he sort of bonded was over dad jokes and puns and things like that. Yeah, they would try and outdo each other with. Yeah, dad jokes.

Dear Psychopomp (14:40.072)
Do you have a favorite of his?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:44.394)
let's have a think.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (14:50.946)
can't think of any offhand. What was his favorite?

I'm trying to think of any that may be, know, not, you know, slightly inappropriate in a 1970s slightly, you know, way. I don't know, the only one I keep thinking of is my wife's ex boss used to be called, was called Hakkan, he was from Turkey. And my dad would endlessly say, Hakkan believe this and how can you do this? And yes, et cetera, et cetera. That was one of his ones that he'd always try and bring.

bring that person up so that you could do the hack and jokes. So yeah, it was basic stuff, know, comedy basics.

Dear Psychopomp (15:27.142)
Nothing.

Dear Psychopomp (15:32.658)
Yeah, well, and it's all about the delivery. If you can just subtly deadpan it in, you're good. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (15:36.14)
This is true.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (15:39.71)
is true. Although I don't think he ever really subtly deadpanned it. He would revel in the whole thing. He'd go, I can't believe it sort of thing. Yes. He'd really go for it.

Dear Psychopomp (15:48.744)
That's so much better.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (15:50.582)
Yes, exactly. He was very chuffed with it. You could see the relish within with which he'd get this stuff out. He's like, yes, I've got one.

Dear Psychopomp (15:57.096)
You

Dear Psychopomp (16:01.138)
Well, for your father and your friend, cheers.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (16:07.64)
Cheers indeed. Chin chin.

Dear Psychopomp (16:10.311)
Mm-hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (16:14.504)
So, Mr. B.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (16:17.741)
Yes.

Dear Psychopomp (16:19.078)
If you were to meet death at a cocktail party, what would you say?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (16:31.79)
did I say to death at a cocktail? I wouldn't ask him to play chess because I'm bad at chess. I'm very good at losing. I like playing chess, but I'm very good at losing at chess. I don't have a chess brain at all. I can't think more than one step in front of me.

Dear Psychopomp (16:34.748)
Or would you just?

Dear Psychopomp (16:45.18)
Me too!

Dear Psychopomp (16:53.576)
I can, but I get aggressive. Like you're gonna lose and I get really into it and then I forget what I'm doing. So my husband will take literally two days to make a move and I'll be like, ha, this one and I'll be done. And I play video games the same way. Like hack and slash, I can't do those sneaky stuff, just.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (16:56.686)
Huh? Huh?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (17:08.706)
Right.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (17:15.862)
You

Dear Psychopomp (17:17.35)
No time.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (17:18.806)
No, no. Yeah, I tend to do most things. I'm generally very relaxed, often when I'm, you know, say when I'm recording or things like that, I'll do things in a state of mild panic, but not hugely. I think that's often because, you know, when I started recording, it was, you know, well, it's not very early days of using say, cue base or various computer based sequencing gear. And back then it was, if you didn't get everything done in one day, in one take in a way.

Dear Psychopomp (17:29.948)
Yeah, it's...

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (17:48.878)
then you'd have to reset everything. It wasn't like you can't just save the project and bring it up the next day and it's all fine. You had to reload samples, you had to put floppy disks in here and there, and you had all that stuff. So I think that's why I still can't quite get my brain to say, it's all right, it's fine. You can just leave it for now, close it and come back tomorrow and it will still be there. There you go.

Dear Psychopomp (18:15.068)
Yeah, that's fair.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (18:16.544)
So yes, I've immediately veered off from what I might say to death. God, that's just, what would I say to death?

Dear Psychopomp (18:23.56)
Would you say, would you ask, would you sing him a song?

Dear Psychopomp (18:29.554)
We wipe to beige, perhaps?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (18:29.646)
I suppose it depends if I was ready to meet death or not. If I wasn't quite, I don't know if you'd ever be ready. Although I know, you know, when my grandmother died, she was like 95, I think, and she just, I think she was quite pleased in the end. She's like, okay, I'm done. She kept saying, don't get old. Don't get old.

Dear Psychopomp (18:56.712)
Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (18:56.962)
And when I think her, because she was the last, kind of the last of her generation as well, which must've been the most odd feeling. Like all of her friends and people of her, of her, you know, era are all gone. her sister-in-law died a year before. And we went to the funeral and I said to my mum, how's Nan doing? How's Nan feeling? And she said, I think she's jealous. And she said, she was going, she said she'd wait for me. She said she'd wait for me. So I think she was ready.

So I suppose it would depend if I was ready, I'd probably try some kind of subterfuge to try and get away from him if I wasn't.

Dear Psychopomp (19:33.544)
Oh yeah, if death walked into a cocktail party, I'd do a just Irish goodbye and see ya.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (19:39.284)
Exactly, yes. I guess I'd have to do that in a way. I'll just try and just dodge out of the way somewhere. Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (19:45.318)
Yeah, well, I mean, I think it'd be funny to slip out.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (19:51.16)
I'd ask him if there's maybe if there's any tea in hell. Maybe, maybe I'm not gonna tea break.

Dear Psychopomp (19:55.698)
Well yeah, it's warm. What's that saying? You go to heaven for the landscape and hell for the company?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (20:06.188)
guess so, yes.

Dear Psychopomp (20:09.766)
I heard that the other day. I think, I think if I were to casually meet death, I'd probably get nervous and do the finger guns.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (20:21.94)
very good. That could be a way of staving him off for a while. He's like, I'm not, if this person's gonna come with me somewhere for a while, it might take a while, I might just leave it.

Dear Psychopomp (20:22.864)
Yeah, so...

Yeah, he's like, no, you're... You can stay.

Dear Psychopomp (20:34.957)
Yeah, she'll be fine.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (20:36.18)
I'll, you know, I'll dep it out to someone else.

Dear Psychopomp (20:41.224)
Yes. It's like, Another question I have for you.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (20:41.646)
at Def Dep.

There you go.

Dear Psychopomp (20:53.892)
If time wore a monocle.

What would it be watching?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:06.382)
Time, what a monocle, what would it be watching?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:16.782)
Would it be watching its pocket watch? I'm assuming it'd have a pocket watch if it had a monocle.

Dear Psychopomp (21:24.155)
fair assumption.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:25.664)
Yeah. What would it be watching? I think it'd just be looking at his pocket watch.

Dear Psychopomp (21:34.536)
Yeah, yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:34.786)
Should it? Yes, if it had a monocle. Yes. What would you think?

Dear Psychopomp (21:42.376)
If time were a monocle.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:42.68)
with the same question.

Or would it be like Seinfeld or something like that?

Dear Psychopomp (21:48.826)
It would be watching...

Dear Psychopomp (21:55.282)
honestly, it'd probably be stargazing.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (21:58.345)
yeah, very nice.

Dear Psychopomp (21:59.676)
Hmm. That's what I would do. I think so.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (22:02.51)
Hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (22:07.688)
Yeah, so how do you imagine the afterlife? Do you think it's like a gentleman's club beyond the veil with the cigars and the velvet chairs or something less polite and more personal?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (22:26.926)
I suppose it depends which afterlife you end up going to. mean, I can only imagine, I don't know, thing is, I mean, I don't think I really believe in an afterlife just because I don't remember a pre-life either. you don't, you know, it's kind of, that's what kind of comforts me about death. I kind of think, oh, think about the 60s, you weren't there either. So, or something like that.

Dear Psychopomp (22:42.034)
Hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (22:52.412)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (22:53.998)
Okay, fine. There'll be another time when I won't be there. Yeah, there'll be another time I won't be there. But I'd imagine again, it's probably very much like experiences of death. From here is probably completely different from what you think. I very much doubt there's a, you know, a pearly gate and some just standing on some clouds, sort of playing a harp. Yeah, Gentlemen's Club would be nice, but not just gentlemen, obviously, I, you know, I enjoy the company of all and I find often.

company of, know, constant company of males to be quite tedious sometimes after a while, you know, depends on who they are. But yeah, exactly. It's

Dear Psychopomp (23:28.869)
I agree.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (23:34.37)
Yes, I enjoy the company of all really so, and sometimes a company of none whatsoever. So yeah, I suppose it depends which bit you go to. I mean, you that's the thing as well, was it Sartre said, you know, death is, was it hell is other people? And then MC 900 for Jesus said, hell is a place of loneliness. So, you know, you can't win either way really.

Dear Psychopomp (23:39.272)
Mm.

Dear Psychopomp (23:57.736)
That's true. I I always joke that I was baptized, so I have a ticket. I'm good.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (24:06.186)
I was, I was, I was baptized and confirmed when I was about 10 or something like that. I went to a church of England, like a Protestant junior school. But I think I got confirmed then because it meant you could get off lessons and go and eat little paper biscuit things and drink small tiny amounts of sherry.

Dear Psychopomp (24:29.746)
Yeah, that's why I did it too. It's like you had to earn it and I was like 10, like, okay. Sure, let me agree to do this for the rest of my life.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (24:31.522)
Yeah, I was in it for the sherry.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (24:36.896)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it means I don't have to do PE or something like that.

Dear Psychopomp (24:42.812)
Yeah, yeah. Of all the classes, I loved school. Huge nerd. I took many, many English courses, as many as I could take, as many sciences I could take, and straight A's, teacher's pet, it was awful. No friends. And I skipped gym. Regularly.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (24:44.566)
Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (24:51.007)
Okay.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:02.83)
Really?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:09.806)
There you go.

Dear Psychopomp (25:12.476)
We would have, they would have days where it was nice out. So you'd have to go for a run and just follow the teacher and do a big circle. And that was the hour. And it was like, I don't have the lung capacity or the legs for this. Cause I'm, I'm five foot one. Like I am built for, for speed, not distance. I got the torque. And so I would,

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:22.349)
Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:37.067)
Okay, yes.

You

Dear Psychopomp (25:41.838)
start running with them and I would stay near the back and then saunter off to the side, go to McDonald's, get breakfast and then eat at the window so I can see when the group started coming back and then follow them back in.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:46.19)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (25:50.104)
Just, yeah, there you go, yeah, little ghosting.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (26:00.784)
very good. That's very clever. Very good resourceful. Yeah, you're clearly a grade A student. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, life lessons learned early. Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (26:06.888)
Oh, I think they just passed me. So yeah, using my brain.

Dear Psychopomp (26:16.518)
Mm-hmm. Exactly.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (26:25.454)
Yeah, what were we talking about then for? just trying to be more of a guy I asked you about. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. But in being, yes, I say was, you know, we were confirmed and what have you. And I'm also married to a Vickers daughter in a very, you know, terribly chappy way. My father-in-law was a man of the cloth. And, but what is, you know, this is the thing. The problem with that sort of thing, you it has made, you know, that's, has made me rethink. I'm not a believer or anything necessarily, but it has made me rethink a lot.

certain bits of Christianity and what have you that they're very, they're what I might call Jesusy Christians in as much as they, her parents both, they will put other people first. They're not, you know, Republican Jesus. They're, yeah, they're, yeah, just people that are kind to others. And if they see someone who needs something, they will go out of their way to help them out and things like that. And it's, yeah, and it's very, you know, small community where they live. And yeah, so

that's made me kind of, you know, I think Christians get a bad rap a lot of the time and often rightly so. But I don't think those people are properly Christians, you know, with a small C as far as, yeah, they just seem to be all about helping people out and being kind to people, which is okay. That seems to be the thing.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (27:47.461)
I've lost your sound, it seems.

Dear Psychopomp (27:52.134)
I was muted, sorry. I had to cough. So I grew up Catholic. I went to Catholic schools, all that fun stuff. I, unfortunately they keep your baptism record on file. So even though I tried to hide it so I couldn't get registered in another Catholic school.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (27:52.565)
you go, you're muted. you go. okay.

Dear Psychopomp (28:20.456)
They had it on file, so I had to go to Catholic High School. I tried, I tried. And me and the priest did not get along very well. We had a resident priest and I asked too many questions.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (28:31.726)
No,

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (28:37.582)
There you go. Don't ask too many questions. Well, I had, yeah, at the school, the junior school I went to, our headmaster was a priest, was a vicar, and he was a psychopath. He was an absolute lunatic, terrifying, terrifying man.

Dear Psychopomp (28:41.253)
Yeah, that was frowned upon.

Dear Psychopomp (28:53.095)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (28:57.826)
Absolutely, and it's so much about...

Dear Psychopomp (29:03.848)
power and control and being submissive to those above you with this hierarchy. And so in the beginning, I read the Bible, I read the whole thing, it was some children's version, and it has a lot of good messages. Like, thou shalt not kill. Totally agree. Absolutely. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (29:12.334)
Mm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (29:29.72)
Yep, good plan.

Dear Psychopomp (29:33.224)
and it's just gotten so distorted.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (29:40.194)
Yes, yeah, it's.

Dear Psychopomp (29:41.284)
over the years that it's kind of being used as a weapon or a persona rather than guidelines for not being a douchebag.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (29:43.63)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (29:53.708)
Yeah.

Absolutely. And there's a there's a great book called The Second Coming by a guy called John Niven, who and it's about basically, during the Renaissance, I think God sees that, you know, everything's going really well and the human race is finally, you know, the enlightenment and all that sort of thing is finally getting itself together. So he goes on a fishing holiday, which lasts, you know, 700 years, or 600 years or something like that. And then he comes back and

Jesus is just jamming on the guitar with Jimi Hendrix and things like that and having, you know, just getting really, having a good old smoke and everything like that. And then God comes back and sees that there are something like 20,000 different branches of the Catholic church alone. You know, we always disagree with each other and he smashes his office up. And then so he sends his son back to earth to go on X Factor or something like that.

And he goes on there and says, I'm Jesus Christ, I'm the son of God. And obviously everyone thinks he's a lunatic. But yeah, it's really, it's great. It's really hilarious and odd. yeah, in a way, think we're kind of, I think God's still on his fishing holiday at the moment.

Dear Psychopomp (30:58.674)
Mm-hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (31:13.106)
That is, yeah, that fits. Confession. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (31:16.608)
Yeah, he's gone fishing.

Dear Psychopomp (31:23.016)
So another question, living or departed, which three souls would you like to have tea with?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (31:34.286)
Cool.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (31:40.425)
Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (31:44.471)
that's three of them. Perhaps.

Dear Psychopomp (31:48.904)
I can make a bigger number.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (31:52.136)
So let's go for let's try for three. Let's see what. Well, I think well, maybe, you know, everybody, people tend to put Jesus on there, don't they? Because I suppose you just have to there's a lot of questions to be asked. It's a lot maybe that would take up most of the time. Just like you like you were at school, you know, endless questions. Why this? Why that? Why? Yes. Jesus. Listen, we think

Dear Psychopomp (32:09.244)
Yes.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (32:20.514)
we got? Because it'd have to be a music one in there. Maybe I'd have Elvis. Because Elvis was sort of the, the canary in the coal mine of the, of the late, you know, the, the late 20th century, I suppose, the second half of the 20th century. And I think that, you know, that whole between, you know, post war and the start of this century was probably

Dear Psychopomp (32:26.76)
Mmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (32:46.638)
almost, you you start to get the feeling that maybe that was all a blip, that there was a slightly, you know, especially over here, it was a kind of almost post-war socialist utopia when you just realize that everybody's got to look after each other because this whole place has been decimated and no one's got anything. So we need to start, when they started the NHS and the National Health Service and various other, you know, and the welfare state and all that sort of thing in a way that sort of said, Rob, you've got to

just take care of vulnerable people. And that seems to be gradually since yeah, I suppose in certain events of the early part of 21st century is gradually being chopped away. But yeah, I'd just probably ask him about yeah, and obviously, yeah, maybe I'm a slight kind of, I do have a sort of slight Elvis fixation as much as I kind of feel that he pretty much invented the second half of the 20th century, really.

Dear Psychopomp (33:27.816)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (33:43.868)
He definitely kicked it off. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (33:45.518)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not, not that he didn't invent rock and roll by any stretch of the imagination, but he made it something, an enormous cultural force, you know, be that right or wrong. But obviously, you know, he, I think he's like, you know, he did try early on, at least to pay tribute to a lot of people that had come before him. And then after that, maybe I'd have, there we go, I'd have Bob Mortimer, possibly.

You know of Reeves and Mortimer? Do know Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer? okay. Well, okay. Well, how to explain Reeves and Mortimer. I suppose they were the kind of my generation's Monty Python over here, I think. There were kind of two sort of slightly surrealist comedians. They didn't think of Vic Reeves big night out. He was kind of Britain's top light entertainer and singer.

Dear Psychopomp (34:17.917)
No.

Dear Psychopomp (34:29.655)
Okay, okay.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (34:43.266)
but it was all just complete nonsense and just incredibly weird and what have you. But Bob Mortimer has become a bit of a national treasure. He's become a great storyteller. He's the sort of person that now coming from those beginnings when it was all just weird, surreal, mad nonsense. He's now the kind of person that your parents love. Caroline's, wife's mom is a huge fan of Bob Mortimer. just go.

Dear Psychopomp (35:06.6)
Hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (35:12.77)
He just, he's a, he's a great sort of yarn spinner and it will always go, go off on weird tangents and come up with names for various people that are involved in this story for no apparent reason. You know, it just, you know, he would talk about, I don't know. There's a show here called would I lie to you when someone has to read something out and say, I once, they did introduce someone or something like that. I this is Bob or this is Dave. And he was my classmate and we used to annoy the teacher or something like that. And they'd have to.

the other team would have to guess whether or not he's telling the truth. But his stories were always absolute madness. He managed to convince them that the rock singer Chris Rhea had taught him how to, taught him that he, well, basically made him every time he has a bath, he cracks an egg in it now and boils the egg in while he's having a bath so he can eat it in the end. And he actually managed to convince them that this rock singer Chris Rhea

had told him about cracking an egg in the bath, something like that. And they decided that he would convince them that it was all true. And it wasn't true. But yeah, and they're like, well, it was Bob Mortimer. Of course, anything could be true. So Bob Mortimer is, yeah, I think I'll have Bob, because he'd just be a, he'd add a bit of levity to the situation, I think.

Dear Psychopomp (36:27.633)
Amazing.

Dear Psychopomp (36:36.872)
Good choice. I like that.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (36:37.262)
So yeah, there they are. It'll probably be a completely different tea party if I thought about it tomorrow, but there you go. There are the three I currently thought about.

Dear Psychopomp (36:43.176)
Mm-hmm.

Love that, yeah, I I wonder what I would ask. Jesus.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (36:52.494)
Yeah, Bobo Dach.

Dear Psychopomp (36:53.458)
Like, like what was with the COVID thing,

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (36:59.842)
Well, yeah, I mean, there's all those things. Yeah, there are those things that you, know, there's that Stephen Fry interview that he sort of said, you know, what would you

Dear Psychopomp (37:01.704)
Was that you?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (37:10.178)
you know, what would you say if you met God and he'd say, childhood cancer? Why is that? Why? Why would you do that? You know, so yeah, there will be many questions.

Dear Psychopomp (37:23.046)
I would, yeah, I think it would get heated. So it might, I might have to spike my tea to.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (37:28.62)
He may turn a table over or something. know he was known to have a little temper every now and again with the userers and what have you. Not that we're those types.

Dear Psychopomp (37:37.338)
Mm-hmm. That's actually one of my favorite stories. They had a little market going in a temple and Jesus walks in, starts flipping tables and yelling at everyone. I was like, this is awesome.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (37:42.147)
Hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (37:51.008)
Yeah, yeah, Jesus kicked off as we'd say. Yeah, yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (37:55.272)
Right? It was great. Yeah. Absolutely. So how has...

the culmination of everything that you've been through, everything that you've created, has that changed how you view life as you go?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (38:20.59)
What generally everything.

Dear Psychopomp (38:23.398)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (38:24.968)
well, I mean, I'm, to be honest with you, I feel very, I feel like a very lucky man. And, you know, I'm able to do...

what I love doing really. in a way that's, you know, if you can do that, then you're the luckiest person alive really. It's, I'm able to make music, play around with words, try and have fun, try and be amusing. And you know, when I go and play, I, you know, I get a lot of nice feedback from people and it's nice to be liked. And also, you know, things like occasionally, you know, some...

people will approach me at shows and just say, let's say they were in a bad, in a bad place and they somehow discovered me and it just made the world a slightly less bad place. So, and there's, you know, there's, yeah, there's no greater sort of honour in life than to have that happen really. So I think I've kind of made music really, you know, in almost just about a professional fashion for nearly 30 years now.

Dear Psychopomp (39:16.968)
Hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (39:34.958)
in various different guises. Mr. B has been around for what 18 years or so. But I was doing lots of other things before that as well and managing to just about scrape a living from them. yeah, lots of other musical things. So yeah, I feel very blessed. I kind of almost I'm trying to avoid the trap of paradise syndrome. You're just thinking, right, it's this good, surely something terrible must be around the corner. And I do you know, I do

Dear Psychopomp (40:02.812)
Mmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (40:04.962)
worry a lot. I does keep me awake sometimes just thinking about when my mother goes, what what's gonna happen with my sister? That's a real. That's a you know, a real sort of proper fear that sits there for a while. But as we said before, you'd things never go exactly as you think they're going to go. So in a way, I try and keep things at bay by just saying that, just saying, this is not going to go the way you think it will. So

Dear Psychopomp (40:32.082)
Yep, that's fair.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (40:34.038)
Yeah, that's what keeps me keeps me going.

Dear Psychopomp (40:36.456)
Yeah, it reminds me of the saying, you know, if things are going bad, don't worry, this too shall pass. And if things are going good, don't worry, this too shall pass.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (40:52.29)
Yeah, exactly. exactly. That's right. Yeah, you never complacent about it though. Generally speaking, it's I think I'm always, know, my wife's always saying, know, well, when she's not calling me a lazy swine, she says I'm, you know, the most motivated and hardworking person she's ever met just because I it's all off my own back. There's no one else involved. It's just me. And so I deal with everything with booking gigs and with everything really. And

Dear Psychopomp (40:55.878)
Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (41:22.178)
But it's something, yeah, it's just something I get up in the morning and want to do. So I just crack on and make music and work and write and what have you. it's, yeah, it's a lovely thing.

Dear Psychopomp (41:37.778)
Yeah, very good. What music does Mr. B listen to when he's sad?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (41:46.574)
When he's sad.

Dear Psychopomp (41:49.8)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (41:53.058)
Well, it all depends on whether Sad Mr. wants to wallow in the sadness and embrace the sadness or escape the sadness. So it's yeah, with a wallowing, there'll be probably, know, if I really want to go, thing is, you know, I'm a huge Prince fan. know, Prince is one of my absolute heroes and he actually died on my birthday.

It was yeah, it was my birthday. And yeah, wish slightly birthday. And yes, somewhat ruined the day for me. But it does mean now that every year if I want to I can legitimately have a prince party every, every birthday and just play Prince, which I have done a few times. Yeah. So say, okay, But then also, yeah, so to listening to things, it's oddly enough, it was

Dear Psychopomp (42:25.836)
Dear Psychopomp (42:40.168)
That's true. Nice.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (42:49.19)
on my 15th birthday that recorded the song, Sometimes It Snows In April, which is, it's a song about death and a song about his friend dying. But it was actually, I think it was a, it was a fictional character from his film Under the Cherry Moon. But yeah, it's a song about somebody dying and what, how he feels about it. It's a really beautiful song. I think after he died, a couple of people,

I think was it D'Angelo was on one of the big talk shows and did a version of it and slightly broke down halfway through, but you know, carried on. So yeah, if I run a good old wallow sometimes, sometimes it's Nose in April by Prince is just that's always going to get me. And also, you know, we, yeah, my dad's funeral, I think. I find it hard to listen to in my life by the Beatles now because he wanted he'd said before he wanted that his funeral so.

Dear Psychopomp (43:24.455)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (43:34.823)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (43:47.506)
Hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (43:47.97)
we had to do it, it's now kind of, now makes that song a tough listener. It's a great, I love that song completely. It's just a beautiful song. But now it's got an extra little free song to it.

Dear Psychopomp (43:56.072)
Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (44:01.338)
bittersweet. Yeah.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:03.488)
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, that was the point of the funeral when I had to lose it for a short while. And I wasn't able to be stoic during that. But yeah, those are things for a good old wallow.

Dear Psychopomp (44:09.32)
Mm-hmm.

Dear Psychopomp (44:18.289)
I it. I like to listen to Sleeping At Last.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:23.97)
I don't know what's, what's Sleeping At Last? I don't know that one, I don't think.

Dear Psychopomp (44:24.988)
When I'm wallowing, they're he's got such a beautiful voice and does really good covers and he does a cover of Already Gone.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:34.062)
Mm-hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:40.045)
Okay.

Dear Psychopomp (44:41.798)
that just touches your soul. And I had a friend, the friend who called me his dear Psycho Pomp, that's where I got the name from, before he died. He introduced me to Sleeping At Last and then I found this song and it just, it fit so well while we were talking before he died. And then after he died,

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:45.26)
Mm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (44:56.355)
Right.

Dear Psychopomp (45:11.564)
like the song had a completely different meaning. And a whole bunch of songs suddenly had different meanings. And the same happened when my father passed away. You know, our song was Summer of 69 because that's specifically the one that he taught me to air guitar to.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (45:14.848)
Mm, yeah, absolutely.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (45:22.456)
Yes.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (45:31.758)
Very good.

Dear Psychopomp (45:32.72)
And I can shred, I can shred a pretty good air guitar.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (45:36.65)
yeah, I imagine. Yeah. Well, we have a my father we I think we were listening to some aca bilk. He was an old English, claret jazz clarinetist. Yeah, and it's kind of a big star over here was a bit of a personality always wore a bowler hat and a waistcoat and played the carol and he's got a song called stranger on the shore, which is just a gorgeous piece of music. And yeah, we listened to that when he when he was going that and some live football commentary.

Dear Psychopomp (46:00.136)
Hmm.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (46:05.346)
With this one, would want it like tried jazz and football as in as in soccer. You know, that's that's how he would have wanted to go and how he did. So yes, we had a bizarre picnic. Yeah, we had a bizarre picnic around his deathbed, which was really bizarre in this hospital in the sort of intensive care unit. We all got some sandwiches from downstairs, just sat around waiting, you know, they'd switch the machines off and just waiting for him to go.

Dear Psychopomp (46:14.534)
Yeah, what's the score?

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (46:30.702)
And, you know, but even those, there's little moments of levity when they said, oh, you know, you will see on the machines is blood pressure will gradually go down. And me and my brother were sat there and watching it. And occasionally it would like go up again and I go, going up again. And here we go. Yeah, it's going to be all right. But yes, obviously knew he wasn't, but then just the little bits when the blood pressure would go up again, he's back. Oh, no. So, yes, there was still, yeah, still little moments of levity like that.

Dear Psychopomp (47:00.52)
It's funny the things we remember and how our perspective helps color the memory.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (47:13.442)
Hmm. Yeah.

Dear Psychopomp (47:16.802)
And it was just, you know, one thing with my father, so he would have been 65, officially a senior citizen.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (47:25.09)
Right, okay, that's very young.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (47:30.53)
Yes.

Dear Psychopomp (47:31.556)
And I had promised him, because he was really excited. He loved going out to restaurants for breakfast. Breakfast was the only meal that mattered. And unless it was a grilled cheese. And so I always joked that I would take him for his first seniors meal.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (47:51.242)
Excellent. All right.

Dear Psychopomp (47:52.36)
Yeah.

So before we go, I won't take up too much more of your time. I wrote you a little rhyme.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (47:57.698)
Yes, no of course.

Dear Psychopomp (48:08.26)
Ahem. Mr. B, his mustache so fine. With wit and charm, your gentlemanliest rhymes divine. In times of sorrow, when the moribs crept near, your melodies wrapped me in solace and seer. With banjo-lele strumming and cheeky flair, you turn my grief into a light affair. Through darkest nights and tear-stained days,

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (48:10.082)
Hit me.

Dear Psychopomp (48:36.114)
Your clever verses danced like ghosts in a haze. A cup of Earl Grey in hand, I'd sit tight. Your jolly tunes banished the gloom from my sight. A quip here and there, a chuckle or two, you taught me that laughter could see me through. In tweed and cravats so dapper and spry, you've spun a fine tapestry that makes spirits fly. For every lost moment, I thought I'd foregone. Your music reminded me that life carries on.

And now dear Mr. B, we all raise a glass to those who've departed. Let's give them some sass. Though you faced your own trials and lost souls afar, we gather around you like a ghostly bazaar. With a wink to the shadows and a nod to the dead, your tunes keep us dancing where angels fear to tread. So here's to you, dear trap of the rhyme. In this mad world of ours, you're simply sublime. With gratitude overflowing like tea from a cup.

Thank you for existing and for lifting us up.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (49:40.686)
Well, what can I say? That's lovely. You know what, all the way through that I was thinking, I'm have to get you to send me that and I'll put some music behind it. Yes, so please do. Please send me that bit and I'll do something with it. Lovely. Oh, was an absolute pleasure. Thank you for talking to me.

Dear Psychopomp (49:50.224)
I would love that. I absolutely will. I can't wait. Thank you so much for coming to chat with me. Yes, of course. And you have a wonderful day. Thank you.

Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer (50:06.284)
and yourself. Thank you.