Navigating The Modern Dating Market From A Male Perspective - with Guest Justin Brown

In this episode of the Elite Level Status Podcast, I sit down with entrepreneur Justin Brown for a second time for a deeper conversation about modern dating, self-respect, and masculine leadership. 

We break down the difference between a “nice guy” and a “good man,” how men can earn respect from women, why attention is one of a man’s most valuable assets, and how leadership should look in a relationship without coming across as controlling. 

We also talk about how easy it is to accept behavior you would normally never tolerate when you really like someone, how self-accountability plays a role, and why so many people get stuck in gray areas when feelings are involved. 

This was one of those conversations that really gets into the emotional side of modern relationships from a male perspective. The pride, the standards, and the desire for something real. 

If you care about dating with intention, masculine leadership, emotional maturity, and understanding how men actually think and feel in relationships, this episode is for you.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

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SPEAKER_02 1:39

Yeah, man. Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure coming in and you know talking with you for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yeah, man, I love it. So, um, first of all, we we know that you're an entrepreneur. Yes, sir. Um, can you talk about some of your businesses that you have going on right now and why people should get involved?

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Yeah, 1000%. So if you don't understand the importance of life insurance right now, and if you don't have protection for your family in case anything happened, and I'm not just talking about your family, I'm talking about your business. Anything that creates revenue or something that would hurt you if it was to disappear, we need to talk. So obviously, if you don't mind leaving my information there so that they could reach out, because a lot of people get into situations. For instance, if a parent passes away or if their business fails or anything happens, they are in a dire situation. And life insurance is more than just dying and your family getting millions of dollars. It's a lot more than that. So that's where I come into play. I'm licensed in 14 different states. Uh, I do a lot of work out here in Vegas, Southwest, Pacific Northwest, also licensed in Florida and Texas. So yeah, 1000%. Very important.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

I like it. And then I'm gonna make sure I have it tagged when I post this, but give them your IG and your website so they know.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

1,000%. So my IG is the letter J, letter S N O W W 101. So J Snow with two W's, 101.

unknown 2:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Perfect. Yeah, I'll have it tagged and definitely reach out. Um, is it's an important topic. A lot of people don't want to talk about it, but it's very, very important.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

So yeah, people don't want to talk about it until something happens. Exactly. You know, it's sad, but protect yourself and your family. That's all I'm saying. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

I like it. So, so let's let's jump into um some some more relationship content.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Um, you know, last time we we were here, um, we we had we had some clips that got some good trash and so I want to talk about that. But first, you've had some developments personally. Uh do you mind uh sharing some of that with us? Sure, why not?

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Recently, you know, I've been it's been a very interesting time in my life. Okay in a transitionally, you know, a transitional period uh with business, you know, with uh family. Just it's just an interesting time. And uh dating, I I'm not gonna lie to you. I mean, I haven't really been really seriously dating anybody. I was just a single man casually.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

But you know, when you come across something that makes you feel something, I I'm not gonna lie. Recently I came across something that made me feel something. Okay. And that could be a gift and a curse. For sure. It could be a gift and a curse because like you start to notice certain things about you that you may have never noticed before. And that's the scary part. And then if you put your trust in a situation, getting hurt or feeling some type of way, it's a gamble, man. So yeah, if if if anyone's watching this, I'll just say give yourself a chance. And even if you get hurt or you don't agree with something that someone else is doing, hey, at least you gave yourself a shot.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah. But what I what I like about you though is that you got so much personal stuff that you're working on with your business, your personal help, health, you know, you're you're in the gym, you got a lot of things going on. So a guy like you, even if a relationship, you know, whether it happens or not, you're building a life for yourself that you are going to be proud of and you always have to fall back on, right? So, irregardless if you're in a relationship or not, what you're building on your own, no one will ever be able to take that away from you. And I think that's a key trait that anyone that wants a serious relationship, you need to have a foundation that you're building first before you just jump into a relationship. Right. You know, the relationship is very, very important. It can't be your entire life, though, because you never know. It takes two to tango, right? And so we we can't really control what other people do. That's why it's it's important to have that solid foundation, man. 1000%. So, yeah, okay. So I want to jump in into this next question. We had a clip last time. Which one? Where we um we mentioned the difference between a nice guy and a good man. Some people didn't understand the the difference. So when I say a nice guy versus a good man to you, touch on what's the difference between the two.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

In my opinion, a nice guy we come across these guys all the time. You know, it's like if someone does something for you, are they doing it because they have hidden motives or are they doing it because they genuinely want to do it? That's how I see nice guys when it comes to women. They're being nice to women in hopes of getting lucky. Or they're in like, and I just I don't like people like that. I like people who are clean-cut, concise, direct. Uh good man is just a person. Like, you know, I consider myself a good man. I'm genuine. I'm not gonna come at you sideways or backdoor, you do no weird stuff just to try to have a hidden motive. Yeah. So I feel like nice guys, they have hidden motives. And women are, they can see it. They can see it.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

They can see it. Totally agree. Um, to me, it's simple. I I think that a nice guy is a yes man and he's gonna get ran over by most women. He's gonna try and do and say whatever he thinks the woman wants to hear. I think a good man has standards and boundaries. And if a woman tries to cross those boundaries, then he'll leave. Yeah. And the woman has to understand that, okay, if I there's a line here, and if I cross that, then he'll he'll leave. But I think it's important that the woman understands that, okay, this guy, he has other options, and he'll leave me if I cross that line. And I think that's a very important standard to have. And I think that's how women, that's one way to build respect with with women. I think to your point, the nice guys, like when they have these hidden motives, typically women are more calibrated in the dating and relationship setting because women are being hit on by by men all the time, right? So I think that what men don't realize is that if you're not genuine, a lot of women can can sense it. They they're more calibrated. And so it's a lot harder to try to get one over on them, especially when they're not attracted to you.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

1000%. So on that note, um getting a woman to respect you is important. What are some what are some ways that you can command respect from a woman?

SPEAKER_02 8:03

That's a great question. Um, so you know, I got so much pride and uh it's it's kind of unhealthy, especially like as I discovered recently while dating, seriously, like trying to seriously date somebody. Cause like I'm the type that I'll see something, and if I don't like something, I'll just like I want to see what people rather do. And that kind of could mess with my psyche. Yeah. Cause it's like, man, you're not, you know, you're not cool with that, but you're just trying to keep the peace. Right. You don't want to overdo things. Right. So I feel like being careless, like my approach to getting people to respect, you know, you know, not people but women specifically in a relationship, is just like, okay, ghost, leave. Be an avoidant. Just leave. Jump shit.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Um, I I think as as men, it's twofold. You you need to be building a life that she can respect. You need to you need to be checking as many boxes as you can. You know, for financially, physically, emotionally. You want to check as many of those boxes as as you can. But I think the biggest thing you have is like you said, is is your uh attention. The more you give a woman uh attention, that that kind of validates her behavior. So I think if you truly want her respect, if a woman does something you don't like, you have to verbalize it and tell her, hey, I don't, I don't like this, I don't like that. If she continues to do it, I think you have to take away your attention. Go stop texting, stop calling, stop showing up. And you may have to cut them off, but that's really the only way, in my opinion, to generate that respect. Because if a woman sees that she knows you don't like something, but yet you continue to accept it and condone it, that destroys the respect. It destroys the respect. And it's like, I think, in my opinion, like I want, I want, you know, my my future woman to love me. I think even more importantly, uh, she's gotta respect me. And a lot of times respect from women isn't just handed out, it's earned.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Right. I mean, I it's a definitely a threshold, like they can respect you, but like it really all depends on the connection. Because if it's like someone you don't really care about, like it's just like whatever, yeah, that's cool. You're gonna tolerate more when you like somebody, though. That's what I noticed. Absolutely. Like when you like someone, you're like, man, this person's special. I want this to work, I want to improve certain things, but like the certain things that they may say, uh, why did you say that like that? But I really like this person. It's like, what if? What if I give up and I never knew what it could have grown to? But things have to be healthy. It has to feel passion, is something good, you know. I love the passion and things, but it has to, if it gets to a point where it's not like it's affecting other things of your life and you're losing, you no matter how much you want that, you just gotta let it go, man.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

I think I think the number one issue in all of love and all of dating is liking somebody so much that you accept behavior from them that you otherwise wouldn't accept. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

That you would never accept. And that's up, that's what I've been going through. That's what I've been going through lately. That is the number one problem for everybody. You're talking to me.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Like, I'm just like, wow. You are not alone. You are not alone. The thing is, listen, if if we all liked people who liked us, if we look if we were into people that were actually good for us, there'd be way more awesome relationships. Typically that doesn't happen. I feel like a lot of relationships, one side likes the other side more. It's very rarely equal. And unfortunately, if you're in the position where you like them more than they like you, you tend to accept things that you otherwise wouldn't accept. And therein lies the core issue. Right. So then what do you do? Do you just accept things that you don't love because you like this person and you hope they change? Or do you command respect and take away your attention and try and leave? Both the answers are hard.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

But here's the thing though. Like, I mean, obviously every man's not created equal, but like when you have other options and you decide to deal with this one person because you like their spirit, you like their energy, and you know they like you, but y'all are just in like a ball of just like it's just passion, it's it's wholesome. That shit feels good, bro. It feels good.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

There is no better feeling, in my opinion. There is no better feeling. Yeah. But you know, everyone is quick to say relationships are about sacrifice and all that. If you make it clear to your partner they're doing something that you don't like and they don't change, that should tell you everything you need to know. That's not gonna end well for you. So I I think that you have to make the tough decision to protect yourself.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Right? If if they were really into you as much as you're into them and you verbalize something that they're doing that you don't like and they don't make a change, what are we doing? Yeah. Easier said than done. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Easier. Easier said than done. So I'm saying there's so many great areas. Oh, yeah. Like you can make up what you make up with them, you make up with somebody, and it's like, we're good. Yeah. And then something else happens, and then like, oh man, it's tricky, man. But like, I I'm I'm glad that I've kind of recently, because you know me, I've been working, traveling, doing my thing, but giving myself a chance, you know what I'm saying? Because it's a good, I don't give a, I don't care what no one's saying. Yeah, it's a beautiful feeling to care about somebody, whether you care about a woman or a woman cares about a man, it's beautiful because that's what life's about. We're gonna die one day.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

It is, you know? And so I think every person has to weigh, you know, how much, you know, do they value their own feelings? You know, how much self-worth is there versus what you're willing to condone and put up with? You know, is what they're doing to you something that's public that everybody can see, or is it internal? Is it private where you're the only one that sees what's what's happening? Like you, there's a there's a lot of context and different situations, but I think, yeah, the number one thing in all related marriage, dating, casual dating, serious dating, whatever, you're into someone, you think they're special, you would do pretty much anything for this person, but there's something that they do that drives you the wrong way and you wouldn't accept it from anybody else. But but since you love this person, you're trying to work with them.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Yeah, 1000%. And even like being self-reflection is key too, because you gotta realize your toxic traits, you know. Once, like I said, in my past relationships, you know, I just, I just, I didn't care. You know, I'm gonna keep it a buck. I was there, you know, you see how happy you make people, and it's hard to leave them. Yeah, you know, but like being able to reflect and be like, all right, Justin or Jay, like this is what you need to improve on. Like, if you want to be a successful partner, you gotta improve on this stuff. But it it's it's like compatibility is a real thing. So even if you do improve on these things, is it worth it? Like if you give your all to somebody, would that be enough for them?

SPEAKER_00 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Like if you're if you're typically a guy who, you know, don't give a damn, yeah, and then you try to start giving a damn to this person, is it gonna pay off? Are you gonna be rewarded or is you gonna be wasting your time? And that's where I'm at in my life right now.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

And I like what you said. Self-accountability is very important. Yeah, I think that's lacking sometimes too, where it's like people are quick to blame and say this person is doing that without looking in the mirror. And is there anything that you could change that could possibly make the situation better? I feel like that's something that's very important that people should do more of. But I feel like that's not human nature to you know look at yourself. You're always trying to say, okay, this person is doing this, they're the problem. Whereas there needs to be more emphasis. Because all you can do, all you can control is your actions. Right. So that should be the first thing you look at because that's really the only thing you have ultimate 100% control over.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Yeah, 1000%. Your actions and just keeping it real with yourself. But there's so, like I told you, there's so many gray areas. Like me, I'm very concise, but when you're in, when you're in the battle, it's like certain things, you're like, damn, why did I respond this way to that? Why am I acting like careless? Why am I doing this when I care about this person? Why, like, why did this what this person did affect me that much? And I'm like, oh, don't worry about it. Don't think about no, I got it's it's bothering me. But I don't, you know. We all we all go. I'm gonna tell you a story, you know. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna just tell you a quick story. So, like, you know, I'm dealing with somebody right now, and um, you know, we stopped talking. So I was out with like a group of like six, seven girls. Okay. And, you know, these girls, you know, they're attractive women. Yeah, but when you are around a group of seven girls, and this person's on your mind, plus I was drinking a little bit. I don't, I'm a lightweight, I don't like to drink. Yeah. But when you're around women and you're thinking about that person still, yeah, when you could be doing doing all this other stuff, yeah, that's I don't care what nobody says.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

There's something. There's something there. Yeah. There's something there.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah. Totally agree. Totally agree, man. Yeah, it's it's a common issue. Um you're facing it. I don't, I don't, I don't see it going away. Um, it's just I I'm with you. I bro, I've I've been there. I've been there. And we all gonna be there again.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

I don't know what it's bro, it's draining, bro. Like, look, you've been in love before? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Twice. I feel like I've you loved a woman before?

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Yeah. So this is my first rodeo, bro. I've never loved a woman before.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

And and listen, I'm I'm I'm gonna be honest with you. I couldn't eat. Everything she did, I was watching. You can't even eat, you can't even eat. I was watching everything, I was overanalyzing everything. Oh, that's how it is. And it's emotional. Over overthinking. I there's certain things that I did where I'm like, she probably thinks that I'm I'm I'm weird. I'm I she can't understand why I'm acting this way. Um I did things for her that I would never do for anyone else. Um, went above and beyond. In the moment, it seemed perfectly fine. Looking back on it, I can't, I don't know what I was thinking, but in the moment, that's how you're in love, you you do stuff.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah, man. Love, love is not a bad thing. I used to be like, oh, I'll never love, man. Love is beautiful, man. I just think, you know, at this point in my life, like at 28 years old, all the stuff I've done, the people I met, the traveling, I just want unconditional, concrete love. Yeah. Like no one could get between me and you. Yeah. No one could get between any, nobody could say anything to you. You really ride for me because you know I'm gonna ride for you. You could call me and be like, hey, are you in Florida? Are you in Vegas? Like, I need to talk to you. Can I, you know, I need a place to stay. Like stuff like wholesome love.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

And I just feel like it's a lot of conditional. It's it's like it's hard to find unconditional love.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

What I love about that is that to the women watching this, that men want that unconditional love. And so I think women feel like, oh, men just wanna, you know, just be put playboys and all this stuff. What you just said, that's what men truly want.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Yeah. Playboy.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

And and I I feel like women don't understand that sometimes. We want that true, um, unconditional, I'll do anything for you, but you'll do anything for me. Right. That's that's really what we're going for.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

And this is coming from me. Like, I've I've dated many women, you know. That's what you do. You date, you know, you see what you like. Yeah. But like when you like money is, you know, a lot of these dudes, they think money is the end-all be all. It's not. There's l there's layers to this. Success, that's cool. Women want successful men, but you gotta sharpen all of your knives in your drawer. Hey, change. You gotta be able to talk. You gotta be able to communicate. If she does something she, you know, you don't like, me personally, I ghost women who do stuff that I don't like, period. But like when you see, like, dang, like every time I try to leave, something keeps pulling me back. That's where I'm at with my life right now. And I feel like, I mean, look, you have millions of dollars in what? Yeah. Are you by yourself sitting in the in the car?

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

Like, I've been there where I'm like, okay, I had a great month. Yeah, had a great week, but I felt empty.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

You know, the only love they say that it's unconditional is from your mom. But I I just be wanting that from a woman. Yeah. And, you know, being a playboy is draining, it's exhausting. Yeah. Dealing with all these women. But it can it it can happen, though.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Don't like don't don't give up on it. Don't don't don't give up on it. You know? Um, I I I think that that optimistic outlook is is super important, man. Yeah. All right, so let's let's touch on this. How can a man lead a woman in a way that makes her feel safe and not controlled?

SPEAKER_02 20:44

That's a great question. Man, I would say like confidence is confidence, right? I really believe I'm a very confident person, but we're human beings. Yeah. Everyone has a level of insecurity, right? Even if it's 5%, 1%. Leading a woman without coming off as controlling or abusive or whatever. I genuinely believe you could communicate like very well, and things still go to shit.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

So I think allowing your actions to speak for themselves. Actions speak louder than words. So if you want to lead a woman, you tell her up front what's going on, tell her, you know, how you're coming, and let your actions speak for themselves. So where she would be like, okay, he could put his money where his mouth is. This is someone I want to follow. Now, some some some women, modern day women, they still won't follow you.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

And that's just gotta be something that you're willing to accept. You gotta accept it. Because it's not gonna go your way, even if you do everything right. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Kind of my take is this I think when you're first dating a woman, you in my opinion, I like to tell her why. So I'm gonna plan something. Hey, we're doing this on this day, and here's why. So I can build that equity with her. I want I wanted to know that when I plan something, I have you in in mind and I and I'm paying attention to the things that you like and don't like, and I'm making plans for us based on what I observe from you. So it's like, hey, be ready on Friday at seven, we're going to SW. Why are we going there? Because I know you love steak. Okay, cool. So if you set that precedent, then going forward's gonna be like, okay, when he tells me we're doing something, I know that he had me in mind when he made the decision. And we're doing this because he knows that I would like it. Or he at least tried to think it through. Yep. I think it's communication, bro. Communication. I think if if you do that, she will gladly follow you and she won't feel like you're controlling her or trying to like tell her what to do because you've set the precedent. You built equity that, hey, when I tell you we're doing this, I had you in mind when I was thinking it through and making the decision. I think most women generally will respect the fact that that you're trying to think about it. You're you're trying to make plans, you're trying to take initiative. I think you'll get a lot further than that than trying to ask her, hey, where do you want to eat at? What do you want to do? I feel like they would rather not make all those D decisions. They'll rather have a man that they know is considering them and what they like and their feelings, and then she'll just follow whatever you decide to do.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

1000%.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

It's like a it's like a quarterback on a football team with your leadership. All right, we're gonna run this play, make sure you post up over there, et cetera, et cetera. But but you're but you've earned the respect of your teammates, though. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

And that that's why they follow you. That's why they don't question. Exactly. Do you think men today are afraid to lead because they don't want to be called toxic?

SPEAKER_02 23:45

That gets thrown around a lot. Man, I get I get called toxic a lot, man. Like people see me off of Instagram and they put me in the box, like, oh, he looks like this kind of guy. And that's fine. That's fine. Like, oh well. But like I do have expectations, like it's gonna go this way. Like, if you're a part of my program, like I'm gonna I'm gonna have expectations. And if you do anything against that program, yeah, I'm gonna be vocal about it, or I'm gonna, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

So my my thing is this, because I've I've heard heard that that word used a lot. And it's like, okay, when you when you prejudge somebody and call them toxic, why is that? Is it is it because they're successful, they're in shape, they're well dressed. I mean, I I feel like rarely do I hear the toxic word thrown at, you know, especially men that don't have anything going for them, right? Right. So it's it's it's like it's almost like a low-key compliment when it when you get that, because they they feel like you're toxic. And it's like I've I've never seen like, you know, a guy with nothing going for him be called toxic. So it's definitely like something where you shouldn't change who you are or what what you're doing to uh escape that. But if a woman is gonna prejudge you and doesn't give give you a chance to prove yourself, then you you don't need to entertain her.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

A real mature woman, she may have those preconceived notions, but she's gonna give you a shot. That's all you can ask for.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

1,000%. And I like a woman who could, you know, think for herself. You know, sometimes a lot of these girls, they be single or they're they're not, you know, and I get it. People gotta stick, you know, have their friends back or whatnot. But like some of these women want to see their friends like single or they want to point them in the wrong direction. Absolutely. So then they'd be on the low trying to get at the man. At the guy. Absolutely. So like there's a lot of conniving stuff going on, but like, I just, man, it's tricky. And it's like, who, like, okay, you really could have great chemistry with someone, whether that's physically, spiritually, whatever, but you guys keep clashing. Yeah. Why are you clashing? Is this meant to be? Or is this just like what is it? What are we doing? Yeah. We can we can hang out and vibe and have great intimacy and we could do all these great things, but why do we clash?

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

And yeah, it's tricky, man. This this is tricky. And the data market in 2026, good luck to everybody. That's all I'm gonna say. Good luck to everybody. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

But I I would say though, that there are people, we all know people that are in relationships and that are getting married as well. So, like, there there are people that are able to make it work. That's why I'm big on having keeping that positive, optimistic mindset too. Yeah. Um, what makes a man stay emotionally invested in a woman after he's already been with her? Like, you mean intimately? Like, if you're already dating for you know a certain amount of time, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Okay, so you know, you you you have that honeymoon face. It's great. After a while, you gotta keep that emotional spark. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Man, you just gotta be, you just gotta be that guy. You just gotta have some oomph. You gotta have some flavor, you gotta have some phazzazz because things do get old. But I feel like the toxic guys, they're just funner men. Like they're fun.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

But but I I I guess my my question to you is what would a woman have to do or show you in order for you to stay emotionally invested in her?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Her mind, man. I'm telling you, a mind, like a woman who could really nurture your mind and like talk to you. I I can't explain it, Pip, like that, but I'm telling you, a woman who could really grasp your mind, it's it's like she's speaking directly to your inner child. And it's like a nurturing, it's like a, it's like a flower. And I'm telling you, it may sound crazy right now, but you you've been in love before.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Well, so what you what you want is a a woman that can push you without trying to take from you. And I think that when they are trying to push you to be better, push you to go after your your dreams, telling you to travel more, what whatever it is. They're not they're doing that because they really want to see you win. And I think when you when you have that, that's something that goes way beyond like looks, you know, honeymoon phase or what whatever it is. When when you have a woman that is trying to not tell you just what you want to hear, but in the things that she says, the things that she does, she truly wants you to win. In my opinion, that's how a man was to emotionally invest in in a in a woman. With that said, what are some key traits you look for in a woman that will get you thinking of okay, I can see a future with this woman versus this is just something that's gonna be a short term something fun, but I won't be with her in the long term. What what are those traits?

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Man short term, you know, it's fun. You know, someone could be cool. Y'all could have like vibes, y'all could be cool, but you can't be friends with them.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

It gotta it gotta stay that. It gotta stay, you know. Yeah, it gotta stay just that what it is fun.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

But a woman for long term, I don't really think I even have an answer, but I do know I like a woman who could challenge my mind and support what I do effortlessly without it feeling like a chore. If I'm supposed to be a man to lead you and do all these things, I need to make sure that you got my back. I need to make sure that you are, you know, protecting my name and my image. And people getting messed up. Oh, you you care about what everyone thinks. I don't care about what people think or you're it's not even about that. It's like no man of who respects himself wants to be embarrassed. No man wants to be able to have people say, hey, you know, your girl, and and it's actually stuff like that. I don't know about you, but I don't. So just giving me a space to be like, no, no matter what, my girl, she's gonna do the right thing. Integrity. She's she's not, even if she feels some type of way, you know, she's not gonna go betray me. She ain't gonna go talk down on me to another man. Pillow talk to another man about me if we're having a disagreement. And that happens a lot.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

I I definitely agree, but let's go back. When you say, oh, uh, people, you you shouldn't care what people think about you, that's something I've always pushed back on. I deeply care what certain people think about me. I care what my mom thinks about me, I care what my customers think about me, what my mentors think, what my friends think think about me. Definitely like if I have a girlfriend or a wife, I for sure care what she thinks about me. So this notion that, hey, just do you, don't care what people think, I think that's bad advice. I I think there are certain now random person, whoever, okay, that that's one thing. But if you're not living, if if if you don't think about what the important people in your life think about you, I think that's wrong. There are a lot of decisions that I make solely on the fact that I know my mom would not love that solely because my my customers when a little I I'm I created a brand that I represent. I care what my customers and people that are watching, I care what they think. I do.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

So you're not gonna tell me to not care what people. There are certain people I genuinely care. I make decisions based on what they are gonna think.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

So that's that's something, and that's not just relationship advice. I think that's life at advice. When that was a response, you you do, you should care what certain people think about you.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Right. And that's important and that could be used, that could be weaponized as like uh oh, you always care what people think, or I don't care. Like you we're live like and look, I'm not living to impress nobody, but I do have to care to an extent, especially if I want to move in certain rooms and I want to if I want to be somewhere and I if I have a woman with me, yeah, that woman, and no shade, you know, everyone has their, you know, they do what they do. But if this is my woman, yeah, I definitely care. I definitely care like what she got going on. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Do you think a man can be deeply in love with a woman but not want to marry her?

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Man, I do, I I think so. I think a man, I think a man could love a woman, but he knows that he ain't he's too much or he he can't give her what she needs emotionally. Yeah, and I've been there.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Yeah. Now, and I totally um agree with that. I think that's hard for people to un understand. Um, but I I definitely think that you can truly love someone with all your heart and not want to be with them the long term. I I I do think that that that happens. Um, I think it's important to rec recognize that. The problem with that is that's hard to explain to your partner.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Yeah, because it it to them, it's like, damn, they don't want me. Damn, I don't they don't want me to.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

It's like all or nothing.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Right. That that all or nothing. Yeah. But oh damn, they don't want me. They don't see me the way I want them to see me, like, oh my God, like, and it could make them feel like they're not enough.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

But like that doesn't mean you're not enough. Like me personally, there's some women that I could make them feel good. I could do all these things, but I'm just not for them. And, you know, you could have fun and you could put me in that category, but if I'm not giving you that emotional safety or, you know, whatever you need, it could be toxic.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

So some women love that roller coaster and that toxic, but some women they really want that stability.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

So they might go date a guy who's, you know, maybe lesser attractive or a guy who's just safe. Yeah. A safe man, a safe man. Yeah. And then they realize that, damn, I'm still not happy. This is not enough. Like, I want this kind of guy, but that kind of guy got all these other options. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

He could do it the really, he could do it, especially if he's successful. Hey, he's good looking. Like that's why would he really just choose you? You gotta be a hell of a person.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

A hell of a person. Yeah. Yeah. And and that's the uncomfortable truth. Yeah. But that's the truth. Exactly. If if if you want, if there's a woman out there that wants a guy that basically checks all the proverbial boxes, he's tall, he's successful, he can dress well, he's funny, he's smart, all these things. And you want to be loyal to just you, you gotta be a hell of a woman in in order to get that uncomfortable. Um, but that that's the truth. Because from from a man's point of point of view, it's it's like irregardless of what you think about yourself as as the woman, you gotta get the guy to see you in that high of a regard as well. And that's where I think there's a lot of disconnect in in modern dating.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Yeah, man. And another thing is like, you know, what I noticed too, like when you start dealing with somebody and you like them a lot, you start doing things you normally don't do. So if you don't drink and they drink, now you're drinking.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

You know what I'm saying? I don't drink. So why am I why am I drinking? Because I don't, I wanna, you know, and I'm fine without drinking, but why am I drinking? Why you knowing that I'm a lightweight, yeah. Knowing that, knowing that if I see something I don't like, or if a dude bump into me like aggressively, I'm gonna probably pop off more than I would if I was sober. So it's like when you're dealing with people and you really like them, like you said before, you start to like accept certain things that you would never accept.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I don't drink. I don't drink. If anything, I'll have me a Hugo spritz, a wine, or you know, you know, every once in a while you knock the edge off. Yeah. But like, why are you why are you doing this? Yeah, you know you don't do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Love, love makes you do crazy things sometimes. So all right, yeah, man. That's that's the all the questions that I wanted to touch on, man. Is is there anything else you want to get get out there? Anything else come to mind?

SPEAKER_02 35:24

Listen, y'all, get insurance, man. Get insurance. Uh, I'm licensed in 14 states. You know, we're building an empire. I'm the new kid on the block. Um, if you don't have insurance, if something happens to your grandma and you can't bury her and you got to create a GoFundMe, that's pathetic. That's straight up pathetic. People go out to the clubs every night, they spend $300, $400 on drinks, and you could afford life insurance. Life insurance is not all about people dying, it's about assets, cash value, assets, assets, assets, assets. So just change your mind. And if you have any questions about insurance or which direction to go, send your boy a DM, reach out to Will, and we'll be more than glad to point you in the best direction.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Yeah, and that's that is true. People, people buying uh luxury bags, people buying G-Wagons, change, jewelry, Porsches. Yeah, there's really no excuse. Yeah. But you but you can't bury your mom. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. All right, man. Hey, I appreciate you as always, man. You know, always an excellent guest, so our articulate with all your questions. So I appreciate you, of course.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

I appreciate you, man. It's always love on this side.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Uh Elite Level Status Podcast. I'm your host, Will Scott, and we'll see you guys next time.