Pour The Wine, It's Rom-Com Time

Hallmark's Signed, Sealed, Delivered: To the Moon and Back

• Garry & Amy

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On this episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, we’re delivering our thoughts on the latest Signed, Sealed, Delivered installment: To the Moon and Back! When a lost letter from a long-closed nightclub resurfaces, the POstables set out on a heartfelt journey filled with family secrets, tough choices, and the healing power of forgiveness. So pour yourself a glass and join us as we unpack the drama, dig into the truth, and toast to second chances.


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Amy:

welcome to pour the wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things rom-com on the homework channel. I'm amy and I'm gary and it's time to pour the wine. Get it pouring. What are we pouring tonight, today?

Garry:

Or tonight we're pouring tribute A tribute, tribute, tribute.

Amy:

You haven't even had anything to drink yet.

Garry:

I know I have a hard time with that word, don't I?

Amy:

So the wine is tribute.

Garry:

Yes, it's a Cabernet Sauvignon. It's a Cab 2023 from.

Amy:

California, pretty much where we stay because we're cheap.

Garry:

Yes, 23 from California, pretty much where we stay, because we're cheap. Yes, right, we're not cheap, cheap, cheap, and we got tribute, because we figured it would be a tribute To SSD.

Amy:

To the moon and back.

Garry:

Yes, let's see what you did.

Amy:

Can you believe, may is almost here. I know it's literally only a few days away. So today we're going to be reviewing the last movie of April, even though it's not part of any Spring Into Love or Easter, or whatever.

Garry:

It's just a standalone for April. Yes, I know.

Amy:

And May is going to bring us two new movies the first two Saturdays. Sounds good to me as part of their May for Moms the first two Saturdays as part of their May for Moms.

Garry:

And then the final three Saturdays, Hallmark Channel is going to air.

Amy:

Love on the Danube movies that aired on Hallmark Plus in September of 2024. So they're not new, but I guess they'll be new to the Hallmark Channel.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

So for people who didn't have Hallmark Plus back then, including us, we did not see it.

Garry:

No.

Amy:

I mean, did funding run out? Did they stop making new films for me? I don't know.

Garry:

Who knows, maybe they're taking a break.

Amy:

Yeah, maybe they're taking a break. I don't know. I don't know.

Garry:

They just rehash the new stuff or the old stuff? The old stuff yeah, so we have a confession. Who wants to fess up you?

Amy:

do it. You want me to confess.

Garry:

You confess?

Amy:

All right, so we are going to be reviewing.

Garry:

Yes, here, let me give you a wine first Give me my wine.

Amy:

We are going to be reviewing the To the Moon and Back from Science, seal Delivered, and it will only be our first SSD movie outside of the movie that began the series.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

But is it a controversy? Because on IMDb that movie is shown as season one, episode zero.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

So is it technically part of the series?

Garry:

It was a movie, but Right, it was a movie, it technically part of the series it was a movie but right, it was a movie so we watched the series yep and now the first movie, and we're gonna have to.

Amy:

I know we're gonna be backtracking, but that'll be all right, yeah and we'll go back, there are 15 total movies if you count the first movie, as that aired before the series. I don't know, it's all very confusing. We have some research to do on that, yeah.

Garry:

Yeah, I thought that was interesting.

Amy:

Right, so you want to dive in.

Garry:

Sure, but you know before we do that, I'd love it if the people out there, would you know, click that follow button on their favorite podcast app, like you know, apple or Spotify. Whatever they use, so they don't miss any of our episodes.

Amy:

Sounds good.

Garry:

And they can also leave a review, hopefully a positive review.

Amy:

Yes, hopefully, fingers crossed.

Garry:

And you can find us on social media. You know Facebook, instagram, blue Sky X and Threads.

Amy:

Threads yes, yes, yes.

Garry:

Yeah, that's a lot of social media going on there Social, social media. Social. Yes, Anywho, on with the show.

Amy:

On with the show. So what are we going to be reviewing today? Even though I just said it, yes, you did.

Garry:

You stole my thunder.

Amy:

I did. I stole your line. I'm so sorry. Okay, anyway.

Garry:

You say it. You go ahead and say it. This is all you. We're going to act like nobody's heard it yet. Me, me, me, me, me, oh my gosh. Today we review a signed sealed, delivered To the Moon and Back, that aired on Saturday, april 26, 2025. If you missed it, you can now catch it on Hallmark Plus.

Amy:

Yes, how was that. That was pretty good.

Garry:

That was better than what I did.

Amy:

No, you did a pretty good job, you know I got to warm up. You got to yeah right, I know those vocal cords. You know Drink some wine.

Garry:

Yeah, drink some wine, I'm feeling fine. Anyways, tell us who's in this one.

Amy:

Who is in this one? Well, of course you got to start with the core four fab four. The core four, fab four, fab four. Eric mabeus plays oliver o'toole his homework work goes back to 2012 with I think this is his first. How to fall in love. The sign sealed, delivered series ran one season during 2013 to 2014. As we just discussed, I believe there are 15 movies. Okay, depending on if you count the first one or not.

Amy:

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong yes, correct us um, you know, I actually heard eric say in an interview that there is a discrepancy in the number of movies. So maybe this is why, because that first movie. I haven't done enough research and we are new to the ssd family. But better late than never yes, thank you.

Amy:

Better, right, we're jumping in outside of the science deal, delivered um for hallmark. He was also in haul out the holly lit up in 2023. And how? Haul out the holly in 2022? It's beginning to look a lot like christmas in 2019. Oh yeah, okay. And of course, we know and love him from oh my gosh, where he played daniel mead yes and that show aired from 2006 to 2010 and if you have not seen it, that is a must watch yes, and you were the one that got me on that one I made.

Amy:

you must watch it. Yes, I said you must watch it. I watched it when it aired from 2006 to 2010 and loved it, and then we did a rewatch relatively recently, within the past year or so. I think, yeah, we watched every episode. It was just so cool. Oh gosh, I just I'd forgotten, how great that show actually is.

Garry:

They have a lot of good actors and actresses on that show. Yes, really good.

Amy:

He was also in seven episodes of Chicago Fire in 2015 and two episodes of Party of Five in 1999. Can you believe that? I guess I should mention here that we don't talk about every single acting credit that they have. I just try to highlight their hallmark.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Movies or series Correct and a few things that we might know, or some popular shows.

Garry:

Yeah, there's just too many.

Amy:

Right, right. Kristen Booth plays Shane McInerney. Did I say that correctly, McInerney.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

That's hard for me to say, that's one last name.

Garry:

You mean there's a word that's hard for you to say, pronounce?

Amy:

For a hallmark. She starred in all of the ssd movies okay and the series. Obviously she was in mystery island, winter takes all in 2025, the christmas charade in 2024 and shifting gears in 2024, and those were all for hallmark. She was in the tv series Cross, which we watched. She was in three episodes of that in 2024. She was in the Boys. Oh really Uh-huh In 2022,. She was in four episodes.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

She was in a Netflix I think this was on Netflix a series called Working Mom. She was in eight episodes between 21 and 22. And she played Ethel Kennedy in the Kennedys eight episodes that aired in 2011,. And the Kennedys after Camelot four episodes in 2017. And that's the series where Katie Holmes played Jackie Kennedy.

Garry:

Yeah, yeah.

Amy:

And Matthew Perry played Ted Kennedy in the second one. Mm-hmm, yeah, oh, matthew Perry.

Garry:

Mm-hmm. Goodness gracious.

Amy:

Crystal Lowe plays Rita Hayworth. I love the play on her name when they call her Rita Hayworth. Yeah For Hallmark. She too has been part of the SSD family from the beginning. A few other movies that she's done for Hallmark the Wish Swap in 2025. That was part of.

Garry:

Yeah, Love you Mary.

Amy:

There, you get to say it again. I get to say it again Uh-huh. Christmas at Dollywood in 2019. Flip that Romance in 2019. Christmas at Holly Lodge in 2017.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Her first acting credit was one episode of Stargate SG-1 in 1997.

Garry:

Now there's a sci-fi movie for you. She was also in.

Amy:

I kind of did these backwards, but she was also in Snakes on a Plane in 2006.

Garry:

Oh, With Samuel L Jackson. Yes, yes.

Amy:

I never saw that, but yeah.

Garry:

Samuel.

Amy:

L Jackson. A lot of people talked about that one yeah. Jeff Gustafson plays Norman Norman Norman. That one, yeah, jeff gustaf is gustafson plays norman norman dorman for hallmark. He's part of the fab four also. That's been in ssd family from the beginning. Other hallmark work to mention season's greetings from cherry lane where he played a postman. Oh, I know, in 2024.

Garry:

Postman. Oh, I know In 2024.

Amy:

He was in Three Wise Men and a Baby in 2022, the 27 Hour Day in 2021, and Wedding Every Weekend in 2020.

Garry:

Okay, Just to name a few. Just to name a few.

Amy:

He was in a mini series called Under the Bridge, one episode in 2024. He was in the series Wilderness, which keeps coming up three episodes of that in 2023. He was in the series Wilderness, which keeps coming up Three episodes of that in 2023. He was in four episodes of Once Upon a Time which we loved from 2012 to 2016. And he was in the series Bates Motel, which we did not watch One episode in 2014. And you know who was in that? Who? Freddie Highmore. Do you know who that is?

Garry:

No.

Amy:

He was the lead in the Good Doctor. Oh Okay, uh-huh Uh. Gregory Harrison plays Joe Oliver's dad, but not his biological dad For Hallmark. He's been in nine of the SSD movies. He was also in Chesapeake Shores which we loved. He was in 16 episodes of that from 2017 to 2022. He was in the Nine Kittens of Christmas in 2021. Okay, and he was also in the Nine Lives of Christmas in 2014.

Garry:

Ooh the Nine.

Amy:

Lives Kind of jumped there. He was in Love Fallen Order in 2019, my Christmas Love in 2016. So he's been around for a minute on homework.

Garry:

Wow, he has.

Amy:

He was in 147 episodes of General Hospital from 2020 to 2024.

Garry:

Oh, there's General Hospital again.

Amy:

He was in 11 episodes of One Tree Hill.

Garry:

Oh wow, I watched One Tree Hill.

Amy:

Okay, From 2009 to 2011. And, of course, we grew up watching him in. Do you know what he was in?

Garry:

No, I do not.

Amy:

I had a crush on him too, I just thought. And he's still handsome. But Trapper John.

Garry:

MD Ah Trapper.

Amy:

Uh-huh, he was in 142 episodes from 1979 to 1986. Gosh, and yes, that dates us.

Garry:

Yes, it does.

Amy:

Zach Santiago plays Ramon Rodriguez.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

For Hallmark. He's in 10 of the SSD movies and a few episodes of the series. He was in Legend of the Lost Locket in 2024, christmas at the Golden Dragon in 2022, and Merry Go Round M-A-R-R-Y, not M-E-R-R-Y.

Garry:

Wow, see what Hallmark did there. Yes, in 2022.

Amy:

He was an episode of the series Sight Unseen this year in 2025. He was in Virgin River three episodes 2022 and 2023. And he was in eight episodes of Shut Eye. We watched that Shut Eye was another good one.

Garry:

Yes, that was in 2016.

Amy:

That was with Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

That's a really good.

Garry:

That's a really good one.

Amy:

There were only two seasons, but that's a good series.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Where he's like a scammer with a small chain of fortune telling.

Garry:

Love those mojitos yeah.

Amy:

Well, that was in Burn Notice, then that wasn't him. Yes, no, okay, yes, no, okay. Um, rihanna and fish plays charlie for homework. She's been in three of the ssd movies the vows we made a tale of three letters and to the moon and back. She was the lead in polar opposite in 2025. She was in a costa rican wedding in 2024 my norwegian and a picture of her in 2023, the 27-hour day, which we mentioned a little bit ago, in 2021, and you're baking me crazy. That keeps coming up too in 2020. Outside of homework, it looks like she's just done numerous rom-coms for other production companies.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

And she was also in Home and Away, which is an Australian soap opera. She was in 325 episodes of that from 2010 to 2013.

Garry:

Goodness gracious, that's pretty cool. Yes, it is A lot of work.

Amy:

Natalie Sharp plays Tracy slash Lily.

Garry:

Lily.

Amy:

For Hallmark. She was in Wedding Season 2023, A God Winked Christmas in 2018. Mm-hmm, she was in the series Wilderness five episodes. Okay, Again, that was in 2023. She was in five episodes of the flash 2020 to 2022 and the updated version of beverly hills 90210 she was in four episodes of that in 2019.

Amy:

She's actually a real singer and she goes by frankie sharp for her music oh, and so I looked up her music just before we were doing the pod and I just played one of the songs and it was called feels okay and it's actually really good right, I liked it. So anyway, I just thought that was interesting. She's a real, an actual, real singer and actress William Wilder plays Nate Holloway. He was pursuing a career in medicine when he discovered his passion for acting. He has three acting credits.

Garry:

That is crazy.

Amy:

Including To the Moon and Back, of course.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

He was in the TV series Wild Cards one episode. I think that started this year or last year, Right. It's a series on the CW.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

And a movie called Soul Frame in 2023. He does have a few that are listed in post-production, so he's got like two more.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

Kelly O'Brien plays Camille for Hallmark. She's done a lot of Hallmark work. She was in, most recently, love and Jane in 2024, a Mrs Miracle Christmas in 2021, ships in the Night, a Martha's Vineyard Mystery and Jingle Bell Bride in 2020.

Garry:

Wow.

Amy:

She was also in one episode of Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce in 2015. Okay, and way back in the day, she was in 21 Jump Street.

Garry:

Oh, another good series 1987 to 1989.

Amy:

Ooh.

Garry:

I had to tell you a story about that one day.

Amy:

About 21 Jump Street. Yeah, but it was a real-life 21 Jump Street at the high school I went to Okay, let's, we'll save that for another podcast episode. That's up to you All right.

Garry:

Time to drop the synopsis. Or maybe, maybe not. I don't know the synopsis. Is that me? Is that me? Yes, you.

Amy:

All right, here we go. The Postables are given a letter found in a former nightclub that takes them on a trip to find the writer hiding from a troubled past. Meanwhile, Oliver learns more about his birth father while wrestling with his own approaching fatherhood.

Garry:

Ooh.

Amy:

Ooh Dun, dun dun.

Garry:

Dun, dun dun. So let's talk about the Elephant in the Room first.

Amy:

Oh, before we go, into the review.

Garry:

Before we go into the review. Before we go into the. Before we go into the review what I thought about the review.

Amy:

So the elephant in the room is that hallmark did not do, I don't think, any publicity for this movie did not seem like it did it. No, and it's because of you know, an incident that happened with eric mabeus and the jury's literally still out on that. I don't know all the details. I've read a few of the headlines. He had an incident in February, which is unfortunate because this movie, it has a huge fan base.

Garry:

Yes, it does.

Amy:

And Hallmark did it dirty really Dirty. Dirty. They really did. I hate to admit it, but there's not even a picture. If you go to HallmarkChannelcom and you do a search for Signed, sealed, delivered, you know all the movies come up, the series comes up and they have a picture, this one. They have a description which is great, but there's no picture Right and it just, you know, I mean I, I don't know, I, I just feel badly for all the other actors and actresses in the movie because you know they've all been doing this.

Amy:

For what a better part of 10 years they've been acting together. It's a very popular movie series um, for hallmark, and it's just. I guess it's a little disappointing that they didn't at least do something for it. So you know it is what it is, but we watched it and actually, for the first time ever, I live tweeted.

Garry:

Yes, you did. That was cool, wasn't it?

Amy:

It was kind of fun. I didn't think I'd be able to, you know, to tweet and watch is the first time I've ever done anything like that, so but it was actually really fun, and interacting with all the postables, all the fans it was, it was really cool, so you know yeah. So there you go. So we got the elephant in the room to. I mean do you have anything?

Garry:

I would just say you know, we're all human, we all fall from grace. So until everything comes out, give a man a break. We don't know what, we don't know Right, so let's not judge.

Amy:

And he hasn't, even, you know, gone to court yet.

Garry:

Nope, so we'll just see what happens. Just give him a break. Everybody sit back.

Amy:

Wait till the evidence comes out. I mean, I think Martha Williamson. Am I saying that? I'm sorry, right now my mind is drawing a blank, but she released a video and basically said this movie is coming out at a good time because it's about forgiveness and moving forward.

Garry:

It's all the above, so you know. So we'll see All above.

Amy:

So you know All right, so we'll see, all right.

Garry:

So all right Back to the review. Back to the actual review.

Amy:

We'll jump into the review now.

Garry:

So what did you think? What was your first?

Amy:

impression. I have to make a confession.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

This will be the second confession, I guess, of this episode. My mom worked for the post office and retired after, I think, 31 years of service, so I have a very special affinity for anything related to the post office and I can't believe we haven't watched it sooner honestly.

Amy:

It just kind of slipped by us and it is what it is, but we just haven't until relatively recently when we watched the first movie in the series. So overall though and I know we're jumping into the series you can totally do that. You don't need to watch. I felt like I understood the movie.

Garry:

Yeah, if you've never watched a movie.

Amy:

I feel like you could watch this movie.

Garry:

Like it was a standalone episode. Yeah, even if we hadn't watched the series.

Amy:

There might have been a few things where we'd be like oh, I wonder why he's like that, or is he always like that? Or why did he do that? But it's not too much, you can totally watch it and enjoy it. So, overall, I just thoroughly enjoyed it. It's true to the core four, core four that you and I have come to know and love recently.

Amy:

Yeah, right they're true to the characters that have grown over the series, I sure, and the messaging just really worked from just the standpoint of good, old-fashioned letter writing, which I love, to being a victim of circumstance, to the fun of a spontaneous road trip, to the messiness of families to the power of unconditional love. It just all worked and flowed and you know also, the right thing to do is always the right thing to do yes, it is no matter how hard it is.

Garry:

Yep.

Amy:

So that was my kind of first impression first take what about you?

Garry:

Well, that was a good first take.

Amy:

Oh, thank you.

Garry:

No, I thought this movie had a little bit of everything. You know, I love the uniqueness and the emotional depth of each character. Yeah, and the emotional depth of each character yeah, you know. And how the chemistry between them, you know was working throughout the movie.

Amy:

Definitely works after 14 years.

Garry:

Right, it should work or we're in trouble, right and then you throw in a mystery to solve a road trip in an RV, that there is an RV, Yep. And then to Vegas. On top of that, oh yeah, Vegas yeah, come on now, remember.

Amy:

And into Vegas, oh yeah, on top of that, come on now.

Garry:

Remember that trip to Vegas.

Amy:

Oh yes, we went to Vegas and had a really good time, one of the best trips we've taken.

Garry:

Then you throw in two pregnant women.

Amy:

Well, yeah.

Garry:

And their hormones and everything else A house being turned into a postal museum, yep, and a box of letters from your bio dad. You know, harvey, and uh, it made this movie for me enjoyable, yeah there was a lot thrown in there but they all they it flowed. It flowed really well, and they tied it up, they wove everything together. It was perfect.

Amy:

Yeah, makes me excited to watch the other movies actually which we're gonna do which we are gonna do yes, so yep, yep.

Garry:

So did you have any favorite scenes?

Amy:

I had. Oh gosh, I had a few favorite scenes. Okay, I had. How many do you? Do you have a few? I have one, two, three, four oh wow, that's a lot for you, that's a lot for you. Yeah, some of them are not scenes, but kind of moments, moments, okay, and we'll talk about it Same.

Garry:

I'm going to have a sip, though, so mine drink your wine.

Amy:

I always love the letter reading. Yes.

Garry:

That is so cool.

Amy:

It's such a good part of the whole show and the series and everything. Just I love the way they you know Oliver evaluates the outside of the envelope first, and then you open it up and then he reads to a certain point and then you know and he does this often he gets emotional before he even finishes reading, like he reads ahead a little bit. I just I don't know. I just love that as an opening. I love the brunch scene.

Garry:

Oh my God, Fun light.

Amy:

I mean just brought lightness and fun and humor to it. It was just so cute. I just really, really liked that scene. It was like a who's on first kind of thing, like the back and forth, and it was good.

Garry:

I don't know how they know who's next when they do scenes like that. I know it's so fast and witted.

Amy:

I know it's like oh my goodness, how many takes did it take to do that.

Garry:

It was perfect.

Amy:

It was good, it was really good. Did you um? Did you want to do a couple, or do you want me to keep um? How do you want to do it too?

Garry:

Well, I was going to jump off of yours too, because that was one of my favorite scenes too. Um, where you know Oliver, shane, norman and Rita. They meet up at Raymond's restaurant to inform each other that they're pregnant.

Amy:

They're pregnant. Right, right, right.

Garry:

And they don't know. They just know that Norman and Rita are adopting and they're waiting for the lady to have the surrogate, to have the baby, and Ramon comes out first. You know, and he's like you know, you want mimosas and both Shane and Rita, you know decline and nobody thinks anything of it. And poor Norman, he's like you know, you want mimosas and both Shane and Rita. You know decline and nobody thinks anything of it. And poor Norman, he's like yeah.

Amy:

I'll take one. That would be me, please. Where are you going? I'm not having any more babies. Give me some wine, that would be me.

Garry:

And then they start going into the baby scene and it's like how many babies?

Amy:

Three babies, Four babies and it's like how many babies? Three babies, four babies, five babies, because they say they're expecting and they're like yeah. And then Oliver's like yeah, we know, you guys are expecting. They're like no, we're really.

Garry:

And then that's when Shane and Rita both realized the mimosas. Neither one of them took the mimosa.

Amy:

Right.

Garry:

And they turned to each other like we're pregnant, right? And then you could see the people behind them were all like laughing you know, it was a pretty cool scene. Yeah, so that was my first favorite scene, yeah, so what about another one for you?

Amy:

Mine were kind of brief, shane's and all of them really, except maybe Oliver, her excitedness about Vegas.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Like was it about Vegas or was it about the backstage passes? Because she was going to see a famous singer? You know, I didn't know. I just thought that that was really cute and fun.

Garry:

Yeah, and how did she get those backstage passes she hacked into?

Amy:

Ticketmaster. That's right, that's right.

Garry:

And she got the tickets for them backstage she hacked in yes. He's packed in. Yes, that's my kind of person.

Amy:

So that was just another one. I just thought that scene too, and they were all excited, and Oliver was, I guess, excited, but in his own way.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

He just keeps his yeah.

Garry:

Oh my goodness Yep.

Amy:

What about you?

Garry:

This wasn't really a scene, but throughout the movie, where Rita was always eating.

Amy:

Oh, yes, yes.

Garry:

And then Shane was always like ready to throw up or something.

Amy:

So Rita is pregnant and she's really hungry all the time, yeah, all the time.

Garry:

And.

Amy:

Shane is pregnant and is not hungry and feels sick all the time.

Garry:

So I thought that was a fun play. Yeah, that was kind of fun Between the both of them.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

You got any more.

Amy:

The Oliver and Joe scenes I thought were really good.

Garry:

Yes, like the one in the attic.

Amy:

oh yeah, that was a good scene the second one, I guess in the attic, when oliver, you know, is clearly upset with joe for not giving him his biological dad's letters right and you know I thought it was just kind of profound when joe admits you know I I basically like I didn't want you to like him better, he wasn't in your life, like he's not here for the hard stuff, like I had to be the one to punish you, I had to be the one to say no to you. And it is hard, being the parent who's structured, who you know has to do that, because then the other one just looks glorified.

Amy:

And he was afraid of that, even though you know, know well that's not what ended up happening, but it happens, yeah. So I just, I just thought their scenes and then of course the scene at the end, so kind of their scenes together you know that eric maybe is the actor and gregory harrison the actor.

Garry:

Just really, really worked yeah, that's oliver and joe. Yeah, um, again jumping off of that. I like near near the end where shane tells oliver that because oliver's when they get back from the trip he's still mad about the letters. And shane tells him you know, you know, joe sent you 46 letters and you didn't, you returned them and didn't read any of them. And then you know your, your biological dad, harvey, sends you almost as many and you read them all and she then says reminds Oliver Harvey gave you life, joe O'Toole gave you a life, yes, that was a really good line and I thought that was really profound, I agree.

Garry:

I totally agree. I was like ooh, okay, chills.

Amy:

That's a truth bomb right there. I know she dropped some truth bombs that Shane did.

Garry:

She did. But yeah, that was another one of my good, my favorite scenes.

Amy:

She's kind of you know. For Oliver, based on what we've seen so far, you know she's sort of like the calming, the conscience because he's so and not rigid. I don't want to say rigid is a word.

Garry:

Right, right. That's kind of like you to me.

Amy:

Really, you're the calming of me.

Garry:

I'm like the storm, you know, and you're like calm down. It's okay, it's okay.

Amy:

There was one other thing that I wanted to mention.

Garry:

One of my favorite scenes is you know, I have to say, I love a suit too. But come on, when you're on a road trip, give a brother some comfortable clothes.

Amy:

But that's Oliver's character. I know that's Oliver's character. Yes, that's his character.

Garry:

But they were at a stop and he's outside doing some exercise in a suit.

Amy:

Suit yes.

Garry:

Come on.

Amy:

Maybe that was the point of that. Okay, okay, yeah, I just thought that was the point of that, okay okay, yeah, I just thought that was funny.

Garry:

I'm like give me some sweatpants or some shorts and some flip-flops and I'm good to go.

Amy:

That's funny. Give a brother some comfy clothes, but he would not be comfortable in comfy clothes probably no no, no, he's out.

Garry:

So do you have any more?

Amy:

Just one more. When Oliver does decide to read the letters that his biological dad has left him and he thinks Shane is asleep, you know, and he kind of you can tell he wants to read them- so he kind of starts to read them and she's not really asleep and she smiles because she knows that's what he needed to do.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Regardless of what comes of, it like he needed to read those letters.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

So he could move forward so. I just that was it. What about you?

Garry:

No, that was it. I think I touched on all my favorite scenes.

Amy:

You touched on all of them, Although would you camp or glamp, I don't know, oh, I would glamp Me too. Now, an RV would be different. I would stay in an RV. Yeah, when you say camping, I wouldn't tent camp anymore Me either I did that, and I just don't enjoy it so much.

Garry:

It's too hot, too humid, too many bugs.

Amy:

I don't. I just don't enjoy it.

Garry:

Give me a comfortable bed with some AC.

Amy:

I'm good to go yes. With a bottle of wine. Indoor plumbing.

Garry:

I'm all about that.

Amy:

So you know that's kind of what about you. You said, yeah, you.

Garry:

Oh no, I definitely glanced.

Amy:

It's sort of a, I mean, if we had a nice RV.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Had a bathroom and a shower and stuff. Yes, I'm okay with that.

Garry:

Yes, I, I would do that, but not outside with the little critters. No, I'm not laying on the ground. Nope, nope, nope. Listening to some crickets.

Amy:

Not doing it not doing it. No.

Garry:

So do you have any cheers? What?

Amy:

was your biggest cheer, what I mentioned earlier. I guess my biggest cheer or cheers would be the messaging and the nuggets of wisdom. Yes, you know, I think I didn't mention that. You know, when they talk about how we're all on display all the time, you know we're always connected and um, I just, you know, I mean I know I'm guilty of it, and it would be so difficult, I think, to go off the grid. I mean, sometimes I wouldn't mind it.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Like the good old days of what the nineties I mean?

Garry:

I don't know you know when you go completely off the grid.

Amy:

Early 90s, yeah, maybe 2000s, maybe even early 2000s, before we had smartphones and all this other jazz, but or before I did anyway. Yeah, I mean, I just think some of the things that were said, like at the very beginning, when Oliver says in a world where privacy now seems archaic and that kind of goes along with you know, going off the grid and you know, kind of staying off the grid and not being on your phone the whole time.

Amy:

Trust the timing you already mentioned. Harvey Schmidt gave you life, but Joseph O'Toole, yeah, or some of the other ones, oh, when Shane says to Nate a life, basically you've had everything A life full of fans and groupies, everything you've dreamed of, and yet you still carry a torch for the one girl you can't have. Right, I mean, isn't that always the case too?

Garry:

That is.

Amy:

Money doesn't buy everything, it helps.

Garry:

Yes, it does help, it helps, it helps a lot.

Amy:

But you can still be lonely and wish for the one that got away. And what a mysterious, magnificent mess life can be. And that's so true too.

Garry:

Oh, boy is it.

Amy:

Yeah, yes, it is. What about you? Any cheers?

Garry:

Yeah, I too. I thought it was what Nate did or continued to do. So you know, tracy wrote the songs that made him famous. He sang them and it made him famous and he had to keep that a secret. And the profits from those songs becoming hit songs he sent back to her, because she would always send him the songs. Yeah, that was really cool too and the pages she had the PO box and the zip code, kind of code-ish.

Amy:

Yeah, that was cool.

Garry:

I really liked it.

Amy:

I really enjoyed that part and the fact he sent her the money, right, he could have kept it. He could have been like bye Right, I'm famous, I can do whatever I Like. She didn't, but he didn't, right, right. And you know, it's really cool kind of to jump off what you just said and kind of what I was just talking about is you know you can stay under the radar these days by writing a letter Right, Because you are off the grid.

Garry:

You know, that's so true, that's so true.

Amy:

Like it'd still be postmarked and everything. And he said she would send them from different. He'd have to send those to different locations because she was on the move. But you know, it's just funny now that that's the way to stay under the radar you know.

Garry:

So hint, if you want to stay under the radar, write letters to each other.

Amy:

Write letters, Well, no, I mean, I guess you could get caught that way too, but she also moved around.

Garry:

But then it becomes a felony right.

Amy:

Well, yeah, let's go.

Garry:

The other cheer I had was when Oliver given Camille six more weeks before turning her in.

Amy:

I thought that was so gracious.

Garry:

He didn't have to do that because he's such a stickler for the rules.

Amy:

For the rules yes, and for him.

Garry:

I'm sure it was hard, but you could tell when he first met her in the church that he was struggling with it. He was sitting there alone right looking at the cross and you could just tell he was.

Amy:

There was a conflict well, and I thought I thought the movie at that point was really interesting too, because he needed that time yes, for a minute before she got there, it was good that she wasn't on time or, like he, that was his self-reflection moment yep right where he went in there but that's a really, really good point, though, about him, because he is, you know, religious right, he's got a deep faith and he does do the right thing and he has strong values, so that kind of plays into that.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

He still does the right thing, but he also.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Put some faith in her to not get to her daughter's birthday and not run her daughter's 18th birthday.

Garry:

Yeah, that was really that was cool, because he put his career on the line for that.

Amy:

But that was it yeah.

Garry:

Did you have any jeers?

Amy:

Let's go back to one more cheer. Oh, one more cheer Got to go, one more cheer the Oxford comma, the Oxford comma, the Oxford comma, the Oxford comma. When he's reading the letter and his dad says something like if you find yourself clinging to the Oxford comma as I do, you are my son, or something like that, and he has like a light bulb moment, you know there are things that his dad says that are, but do you?

Garry:

No, that was very for me. I know Very touching because I am a fan of the oxford comma and use it some people don't.

Amy:

Do. You know what it is? No, tell us. So it is a comma placed before the final item in a list of three or more things so so if to use sign sealed delivered. But I'm going to throw an and in there, even though it's not. Right right right, so a comma would be after signed.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Sealed.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Oh, I'm sorry, Three or more things. So it would be signed, sealed, delivered and lost. Right right right, so the comma would be after sign sealed and the word delivered. Then you'd have and lost. Some people don't put that comma after delivered.

Garry:

Oh wow, that's bad. I can't take that.

Amy:

I know I correct that I know, I know I correct that, that's okay, yeah, we all have our thing. So there you go. But yeah, I did like that. That was a little nugget in there.

Garry:

All right, so did you have any jeers?

Amy:

The only, you know, the only jeer and you kind of mentioned it would be him doing the stretches in front of the RV. I just didn't get it, unless I forgot about something.

Garry:

Or maybe it just was supposed to be funny because he's in a suit.

Amy:

Yeah, I think it was just. You know that I mean that really I don't know. So that would be if I had to pick a jeer. What about you. Did you have a jeer?

Garry:

Yes, I had one.

Amy:

Okay, one, okay, that's me.

Garry:

When both actors were singing, when Nate sang and when Tracy sang in the end. Yeah, why was the microphone not up close to them? It was so low.

Amy:

Oh, I didn't even notice that. So you're like a cent, right, that's such an easy thing to do it's like they didn't even care oh well, I mean it was like the microphone was on the floor. I did not even notice that that's so funny.

Garry:

That was my that would be your. My dear. Did you have any other?

Amy:

scenes. No, no, any other nuggets. I had one, I had one more. Go ahead, one, one more.

Garry:

Go ahead One more, and I thought it was so cool that Tracy Amber and their mom got to reunite at the gala for the museum.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

And then, as Tracy was singing, you know, oliver walked Camille out to the FBI or whoever. And then you see him looking at his watch and you're not really sure what he's doing. But then the next scene is him walking in with Nate. So Tracy got to reunite with Nate again. Yes so she had two reunions.

Amy:

Yeah, that's true. Actually two, I know right she did. She had two reunions.

Garry:

So that was it for me.

Amy:

Oh, cool, all right, is that a wrap?

Garry:

Well, we got to cork it.

Amy:

We got to cork it.

Garry:

So what did you give it? What would you give it?

Amy:

Out of five corks, I'd probably give it a solid four and a half.

Garry:

Four and a half, yeah, I think four and a half corks. How about you? I'm going to go with probably four and a half. Maybe, you know, I don't know, I don't know. I thought it was good, I thought it was entertaining. I thought it was very spiritual and you know had a lot of good moments. But yeah, I'm going to go with a four and a half.

Amy:

Four and a half, all right, cool. So, that is a wrap.

Garry:

That's a wrap.

Amy:

That's a wrap.

Garry:

Well, guys, thanks for listening. Be sure to follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss one. Okay.

Amy:

Okay, what was that? Drink some more wine.

Garry:

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Amy:

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Garry:

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Amy:

We appreciate you, yep. Join us next Wednesday for our review of the first of the two new May for Moms 2025 movies Hats Off to Love, starring Gina Claire Mason, john Clarence Stewart and Holly Robinson-Pete. It airs Saturday night, may 3rd 2025, on the Hallmark Channel and streams the next day on Hallmark Plus. You can also join us on Tuesdays for our Hallmark series reviews. Until then, fill up your glasses and push play. Thanks for listening.

Garry:

Cheers.