Hallmark's The Chicken Sisters S1 E8 - The Best Chicken in Town, Y'all

In this episode of Pour The Wine, It's Rom-Com Time, finger-lickin' drama and heartwarming reconciliations take center stage! Join Garry and Amy as they dive deep into the season finale of "The Chicken Sisters.” The much-anticipated conclusion delivers satisfying resolutions while still leaving us hungry for more!

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Transcript

Amy 0:08

Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things rom-com on the Hallmark Channel. I'm Amy and I'm Gary. Are you ready to pour the wine?

Garry 0:17

Yes, yes, it's time to pour the wine.

Amy 0:20

Yes it is.

Garry 0:21

And what do we have today?

Amy 0:23

We, I think A cab sap A cab sap? That would be very shocking. We'd love a cab sap, although we did have some Chardonnay. Yes, we did Over the weekend, so we threw in some chard again.

Garry 0:34

Yes, we did, we like a dry white on occasion.

Amy 0:36

It was perfect for like the warmer weather. Yes, when the porch, it's really good Watching everyone else's children run by.

Garry 0:47

We don't have to worry about it because ours are grown up and lately we have some really good porch weather.

Amy 0:50

Yeah, we have. We've had some really good porch weather. Can you believe we're about to review the season finale of the Chicken Sisters?

Garry 0:58

No, I cannot. It's finally here. It seems like we just started yesterday.

Amy 1:00

Spoiler alert. I just gave away what we were reviewing.

Garry 1:02

Sorry, oh, that's okay, we're going to have a lot of those spoilers.

Amy 1:07

Yeah, speaking of spoilers, that's the first one.

Garry 1:17

Every time you hear the word spoiler, take a sip of wine. Well, we would love it if you would click that follow button on your favorite podcast platform so you don't miss an episode. Click it and don't miss it. Oh, wow. Okay, sorry Go ahead If you listen on Apple or Spotify. You can also leave us a review, and hopefully it's a positive one.

Amy 1:34

We hope so. We would really appreciate anybody taking the time to post a review.

Garry 1:39

Yes, because we will answer you back or you will.

Amy 1:44

One of us will.

Garry 1:46

You're good at that stuff, not me. Anyways, you can also find us on social media.

Amy 1:51

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Garry 1:52

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Amy 1:56

Yes, please head on over to the socials and let us know what you thought about the first season of the Chicken Sisters.

Garry 2:01

Yes.

Amy 2:01

I'd be curious to know everyone's thoughts. I really haven't looked up any reviews or what people are saying, I mean we've listened to a few podcasts, just to kind of see if we're on the same page sometimes. Yeah, um, but uh, other than that, I haven't really looked because I haven't wanted to taint anything and you know I didn't want to taint our we'd like to save it. Yeah, save it for the podcast because did drop what in the fall on Hallmark Plus. So a lot of people have already seen it.

Amy 2:28

Yep, and I didn't want any spoilers and I didn't read the book. You didn't read the book.

Garry 2:33

No, I did not, so we literally had no idea what was going to happen all season. No, we got some things right and we got some things wrong, yep, but overall we did a good job, I think, I think so. So today we're reviewing the season finale of season one, the Chicken Sisters the best chicken in town y'all which aired on the Hallmark Channel on Sunday, may 28th 2025.

Amy 2:56

No.

Garry 2:56

May 18th. Oh sorry, my eyes did a double cross there. Spoiler alert 18th Take a sip yeah right May 18th 2025. If you missed it, you can catch it in all of the episodes on Hallmark Plus. Yes, yes. Take a sip. Take a sip Anyway so are we adding anybody to the list of actors and actresses on this one?

Amy 3:19

We are not. I believe we've covered them all.

Garry 3:27

I don't think anyone new showed up, except maybe via text to sergio, but we don't know who that is.

Amy 3:31

Oh, but we have a good idea. So okay, yeah, in season two we'll find out yeah but um, no, because I think if you want to hear the actors and actresses who are in it, go to our other episodes.

Garry 3:43

Yes, Episode one, two and three.

Amy 3:46

Yeah, at least. And then I think we sprinkled in some more, in some other episode reviews of the actors as they showed up and actresses. So there you go, yeah.

Garry 3:55

Yeah, it's hard to keep up with all of them. There were so many, there were, but you did a really good job.

Amy 3:59

There were quite a few, okay, thank you so you want to have some trivia. Let's do it, let's do some trivia I love not knowing things. Let me take a sip while you're getting ready.

Garry 4:12

Okay, go ahead, here we go, lay it on me, lay it on me, me, me, me, me. Anyway, what profession do many Hallmark movie leads often have in Hallmark movies?

Amy 4:23

and TV series. Oh, you're catching me off guard. Often have in Hallmark movies and TV series. My brain is like bleh.

Garry 4:27

What professions do they usually play? Attorney.

Amy 4:31

Chocolatiers.

Garry 4:33

We've seen a lot of those lately. Yes, we have lately.

Amy 4:35

yes, that's the first thing that comes in Advertisers, publicists I don't know, bakers, help me, yes, bakers, writers, writers, planners yes, yes, photographers. I didn't know that, yeah I couldn't think that that wasn't. You know, you put me on the spot royals, royals love me royal.

Garry 4:57

I know right, I know I know, so is it? That was that was good trivia. Yeah, it was, I thought so and I was terrible. Yeah, you did pretty good, so is it time to drop the synopsis? For season one, episode eight.

Amy 5:10

The best chicken in town, y'all. A final twist in the reality competition throws both the Mimi's and Franny's crews for a loop, and Frank Jr's true colors are revealed.

Garry 5:23

Yes, they were.

Amy 5:27

Were, I don't think it just happened in this last episode but we can discuss.

Garry 5:32

Let's just say that water is boiling over.

Amy 5:35

All right now. This is a spoiler alert.

Garry 5:37

So press pause, press pause, go watch it and then come back and listen to our podcast.

Amy 5:45

Yes, because we will, in discussing things, give some things away. We're going to talk about the end and what's sort of lingering. So press pause, go watch the season finale and then come back. That's your spoiler alert.

Garry 5:59

You've been warned.

Amy 6:00

How many times have we said spoiler. People should be. What four or five subs?

Garry 6:03

Yeah, they should be feeling pretty good right now. At least I am anyways.

Amy 6:08

Yeah, so at the end of last season we're fresh off what we thought was one of the best episodes, right?

Garry 6:14

Yes, could have been a finale there.

Amy 6:17

Yeah, we both thought it could have been a finale.

Garry 6:18

Yeah, because it was to me if they would have left Gus passed out. Yeah, Until next season. Yes, that would have been awesome.

Amy 6:28

Yep, yep. So we see. Nancy realizes that Frank Jr was the one that called the health inspector.

Garry 6:34

Yep.

Amy 6:35

Frank Jr continued to show that he's an ass.

Garry 6:39

Yes, the town rallied around Gus. Hey Right.

Amy 6:43

May and Amanda got closer. Yep, jay showed Gus hey, right, may and Amanda got closer.

Garry 6:44

Yep.

Amy 6:45

Jay showed up.

Garry 6:46

Jay For.

Amy 6:47

May rolled his sleeves up and dove right in to May's life.

Garry 6:50

He sure did.

Amy 6:51

Sabrina and Lindsey are at odds again.

Garry 6:54

Yep.

Amy 6:55

As are Frankie and Lindsey.

Garry 6:57

Yep.

Amy 6:58

And Gus lights her house on fire and collapses.

Garry 7:00

Now.

Amy 7:00

That's kind of where we are. Lighting your house on fire and letting it burn to the ground.

Garry 7:08

That's a way to start over. That could have been an awesome cliffhanger. It could have been, but you still would have had the chicken competition.

Amy 7:14

lingering, would you want?

Garry 7:15

to wait a whole season for that. That's true too.

Amy 7:17

That's true, I mean, I think that it was good enough to be a finale. I mean, we loved that episode. We weren't completely wrong, I don't think, but there was definitely things to tidy up.

Amy 7:27

And especially since they didn't know if they were getting a season two Right. So you want to wrap things up and there's a lot of places they can go still, Yep, but you definitely want to tie. I mean the series. I'm glad it's not ending, but it could have ended on the season finale because they did tie a lot of things up.

Garry 7:47

Yeah, yeah, I thought so, yeah, so.

Amy 7:50

So where do you, where would you like to start? I do have some tidbits about the differences between the book and the series, by the way. You want me to hold on to those until the end.

Garry 8:01

No, go ahead, let's bring them up, okay.

Amy 8:06

What? Um no go ahead let's, let's bring them up. Okay, go ahead. So I didn't. We already meant we didn't read the book. No, we didn't have any spoilers, but I just decided to look up what are the differences. Now that we watched the eighth, you know the final episode to see, and this is probably going to blow your mind a little bit. So amanda is widowed in the book oh frank jr is not alive really in the book, right, she's widowed.

Amy 8:29

Now I don't know how he died or if they talk about it, but and they were saying that you know frank jr on the screen kind of, adds the producer. I think was saying something like having him part of the story gives you more of a background for Amanda's. Right why she's making some decisions that she's making. So I thought, which makes sense, because the whole thing with Sergio isn't in the book either, so Huh.

Garry 8:57

Yeah, okay.

Amy 8:58

So May is married with kids.

Garry 9:01

Oh May.

Amy 9:02

But they opted not to go that route Right with kids who may. But they opted not to go that route right because this is according to the producer it would have just added that many more characters to keep up with and there's already so many and we're peeling back the layers right of everybody every episode, so, um, so I thought it was kind of cool and to give her a little, and you know, it gave her room to grow too yes, before she settles down, and so I thought that was kind of cool.

Garry 9:26

I agree with what you told me.

Amy 9:26

Now the author, kj D'Antonia. She was not involved in the adaptation because she basically has said I'm a book writer, not a screenwriter, and she sort of gave them free reign-ish. She did want it to take place in Kansas because she felt like Kansas didn't get enough. There's a lot of small towns and a lot of states but Kansas is rarely represented and she went to high school and college there and she really wanted Kansas to be represented. I thought that was pretty cool.

Garry 9:54

I think that's a.

Amy 9:55

And she was actually inspired by two chicken restaurants in Kansas where she Get out of here, where she lived, and she said her and her family went to one of them but not the other, and so she expanded on that idea and thought, I thought that was really cool.

Garry 10:07

That's pretty cool.

Amy 10:08

And season one covers the storylines in the book in their entirety. Okay, so when they move forward, they're going to take those characters that she so brilliantly wrote in the book and just go off with them and they have so many different ways they can go. So anyway, that's just a little tidbit about what I read.

Garry 10:26

That's pretty interesting.

Amy 10:28

Pretty interesting, so what? Did you think about the finale?

Garry 10:32

Oh my, God, the truth is it was flavorful.

Amy 10:37

Flavorful. Oh, okay, we're going with some. Okay, and very, very satisfying, very satisfying.

Garry 10:42

Like finger licking. Good Okay.

Amy 10:44

That's where we're going with this. I see what you're doing here. I see what you're doing here. Yes.

Garry 10:49

Finger licking good.

Amy 10:51

Yeah.

Garry 10:52

They tied up everything. I really enjoyed it.

Amy 10:55

Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

Garry 10:56

Yeah, I did too I mean there's a lot of up and down, emotions and romance. We found a lot of below the surface issues that they actually resolved. So there was some resolution yes, so what did you think?

Amy 11:13

I thought it was good. I mean, I enjoyed it for what it was. I thought it was a really good episode. I didn't think it was one of the best episodes. It was good. It was good. Okay, so we're gonna to differ in our rating. I can already tell how many quirks.

Garry 11:27

I'm going to say spoiler alert, just so I can take a sip.

Amy 11:30

Okay. So, like I said, I thought it was really good. It was satisfying as a viewer because you do see some things wrapped up. You do see some more revelations about people. Yes, I mean I think I enjoyed the series as a whole overall, just to see the growth of some of the characters and everything. So I mean, if we want to get into it, we find out, you know, right at the beginning you find out that Gus has MS.

Garry 11:56

Yes.

Amy 11:57

That's what she's not told anybody.

Garry 11:59

And she's not sleeping with Gen. And she's not she is not, so get your minds out of the gutter he's a doctor and I don't think did we see him as a doctor. No, I don't. They kept that hidden for seven episodes, well we figured he was some kind of what were we guessing like a massage therapist or something.

Amy 12:15

We just didn't know for sure. With the acupuncture, Acupuncture yeah, he is a doctor. So we find out that she has MS and she's been hiding it. And her girls, of course, Amanda and May, are shocked to find out.

Garry 12:29

Yeah, they kept that secret. Yeah, that Gen didn't say anything.

Amy 12:34

That Gen didn't say anything. Their mom didn't say anything, although I'm sure it wasn't surprising that Gus didn't spill the beans.

Garry 12:40

But the look on Amanda's face when she kind of she kind of asked like why?

Amy 12:45

and it just dawned on her because the whole town would have knew, yeah, but then second, yeah, and they get tired of being talked about and then you find out pretty much, I think, at the beginning that franny's husband og franny her husband lied yes, just like. Just like Frank Sr did Sherman.

Garry 13:09

So he lied and said he had an affair with.

Amy 13:10

Mimi. But it turns out it wasn't true, because Frankie found the letter from the real baby, daddy.

Garry 13:16

Yeah.

Amy 13:16

That's funny, yes, but we don't know who he is.

Garry 13:23

Not yet.

Amy 13:24

And then we also find out that Mimi gave the baby up for adoption so I think that leaves something open too yeah where who's the who's the baby yeah, and I think and who is it in the town? How old would the baby be, though?

Garry 13:41

that's a good question. It it would have to be a grandmother yeah, I just know yeah, and we'll get to that point where I think we find may oh, yes, oh, now I'm putting it together now you're putting it there, you go.

Amy 13:55

I didn't at the time. Okay, I'm dumb, all right, all right so anyway, so, and gus, when she's laying in bed, what is this? The gulag you're gonna you know she is so funny.

Garry 14:04

I love her man.

Amy 14:05

She is great yeah and she realizes she has to have help right because she gets. They have to put her in a wheelchair for a little bit because it's hard for her, you know, to walk which I am shocked right away.

Garry 14:16

She was okay with being put in the in the wheelchair, but I think well, she burned her house down like she's ready, but you see how she ripped off the ivs and everything she was like I think she, just in that moment, realizes, you know, she has to have help.

Amy 14:33

There's no way around it, she's got to have the help.

Garry 14:37

Well, just think about it when she was growing up, she didn't have help and she had two little kids Right. And now she's at an age where she just wants to. Hey look, y'all want to help me. Help me.

Amy 14:45

Yeah.

Garry 14:46

Which I thought was really good.

Amy 14:47

Yeah, that was really good it, yeah, that was really good.

Garry 14:55

It was a good turning point for her. Who do you want to?

Amy 14:56

kind of dive into. Let's go with.

Garry 14:57

May, may. Okay, yeah, did she come and do any revelations, do you think?

Amy 15:04

Well, I mean.

Garry 15:07

I feel like with her and Jay. I think she finally let the what's the word I'm looking for.

Amy 15:20

The control that she always had to have. Yeah, she gives it up a little bit.

Garry 15:21

Yeah, because she was kind of a control freak, Not with. You know, you need to do this, you need to do that.

Amy 15:26

Well, she kind of was she just needed to have that control of the situation. Of her life and the narrative and everything.

Garry 15:35

And maybe it was part of her show personality coming out in real life, or maybe it was vice versa, I don't know, but I felt like she really, you know, just like Gus, just let it go.

Amy 15:47

I feel like she grew the most over the season.

Garry 15:50

I mean. Amanda in this episode finally comes around you know, oh boy, did she come around and owns it.

Amy 15:56

But yeah, mae, she definitely. I mean, I just love her and Jay's relationship even more after this episode. You know, you see, Mae gets an opportunity to go back on her show. Yeah, they wanted her back. They want her back. And what does she? She tells Gus that.

Garry 16:12

Oh, my goodness, and gus.

Amy 16:14

I love the line where gus well before you know gus says something like well, I guess those fan checks are going to start coming back, which I thought was really funny.

Garry 16:22

The fan story, the fan incident that she believed she was getting money from, and there it is and there, yeah, but she said she's proud of her and may's like what she slowly turns and says what Did you just say you're proud of me. And then she spanks her on the butt.

Amy 16:37

And then Gus is like maybe I should let some of my inside thoughts come out every once and again. So that was so she's coming around, you know, I mean it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, right, and she is, she's trying. Yes, she is she's trying to not be in her own way.

Garry 16:54

She's really putting in effort, and so is May, yeah, and I think by just everybody knowing about what they already knew about. She was a hoarder, but by and now everybody knows about the MS. She doesn't have to hide it anymore and you can just tell the weight lifted off her shoulders. She's just, she's smiling more.

Amy 17:13

I mean, it's just, and can you, can we, the three women who are like the gossipy women? Of the town when the sheriff asked them about the fire do you think it's intentionally set and there would have been a time where they're because they're just dying to gossip? Right, they want to talk about it.

Garry 17:28

Right.

Amy 17:29

And they don't. They defend her.

Garry 17:30

Yes, they do.

Amy 17:31

And instead of gossiping and telling the truth, they're like must have been a lightning storm, which I thought was really kind of a cool turnaround for them also. You know, now they're still probably going to be the town gossipers, but in that moment they defended Gus and I think Gus doesn't realize how much the town really loves her, despite her exterior of hardness and they get him to agree with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a road like that, yeah.

Garry 18:02

That was a really good scene too, so what did you think about Jay?

Amy 18:06

Jay. I loved his exploration too. He's supposed to be, so Jay is supposed to be packing and getting the rental car right yes, a rental car or something for them to get ready to go back to New York, and while May is, doing the competition right and helping with the competition, but then you see him strolling around and and you know and the town. And what does he have? Some ice cream. Like he's just really soaking in the peace.

Garry 18:38

He's skipping rocks.

Amy 18:39

Right, right. And what do I always say? Unapologetically protect your peace.

Garry 18:43

Yes.

Amy 18:43

Right, and you don't necessarily have to go to a small town to do that. But if you live in New York City, I would imagine you know sometimes you might want an escape just for a little bit at least you know to go, but he really is liking it and he doesn't have a job to go back to anymore.

Garry 18:59

Right.

Amy 18:59

That was another revelation, right.

Garry 19:01

Yep.

Amy 19:03

In the last episodes that he quit his job.

Garry 19:05

He quit his job.

Amy 19:07

So now he's realizing hey, maybe this is pretty cool and it's so interesting to me because May couldn't wait to get out of that town.

Garry 19:15

No.

Amy 19:15

She hated that. Well, her childhood was so traumatic and she, you know, had all the things and she just wanted out and she wanted, she thought she wanted to be better and people to see her in a different light, not come from a place like that, and all he wants to do is stay there.

Garry 19:29

Right.

Amy 19:30

You know, so it's kind of cool, so, and then at the end, of course, she she barges in and she's putting her foot down saying, right, I'm staying. I know we shouldn't yeah.

Garry 19:43

Maybe not forever, but I need to be here and he pretty much he's like hold on. Yeah, wait a minute, let me speak.

Amy 19:51

Yeah, and he hold on.

Garry 19:51

yeah, wait a minute, let me speak, yeah, and he tells her I didn't pack, I didn't get the rental car yeah she kind of looks down like what, and then he goes in to tell her that you know, he, what was the one? He talked about? A blue bluebird oh the word.

Amy 20:05

I saw a bluebird. Get the, or what is it no feed the worm to its baby today, or something like that.

Garry 20:11

And in New York, all I see is pigeons eating cigarette butts. It's so true.

Amy 20:15

That was so nasty. That was nasty when you take in. Sometimes it's the little things, right, yeah. Yeah, that was pretty good and he saw the house with the for sale sign on it.

Garry 20:23

Yeah, and she kind of was like oh my God, you know that, look on her face, yeah.

Amy 20:38

So face, yeah, so there, I just love love their relationship, so it's pretty cool and he's perfect for her and she's perfect for him in a lot of ways, you know, so they're perfectly imperfect.

Garry 20:41

Right there you go, there you go. Yeah, it's pretty cool, all right.

Amy 20:43

Well, let's touch on amanda then amanda okay, she has some growth so we have to talk about the competition. We finally get some of the cooking competition and Frank Jr goads Sergio into trying to punch him and Sergio punches the wall instead. And that causes a whole thing, and in that moment Sabrina also cuts the camera off. Yes, because she has come to a realization that she doesn't necessarily want the salaciousness and she wants to do something that her daughter is proud of, and so I thought she wouldn't have done that at the beginning.

Amy 21:18

So her character has evolved too, from the beginning, you know, to the end and I don't know if it's like that in the book or not you know she does change like that.

Garry 21:26

Right.

Amy 21:27

But it's a pretty good evolution for her.

Garry 21:29

I think so. Sorry, I digressed from Amanda. Evolution for her. I think so. Sorry, I digressed from Amanda. No, no.

Amy 21:32

But yeah. So then Amanda, we see she's just had it with Frank Jr.

Garry 21:38

Oh yeah.

Amy 21:39

And then she's like I didn't stay in this relationship for you, right, I stayed for you. And she looks at Nancy.

Garry 21:47

Yeah, that was a powerful moment, and Nancy's mortified, you know.

Amy 21:50

And then Amanda and Nancy jump ship, yeah, and then Amanda and Nancy, jump ship, yeah, and they go over to Mimi's side, to Mimi's side. Yep, yep, yep.

Garry 21:57

Leaving Frank all alone.

Amy 22:02

Well, we need to go back to the letter that Frankie found.

Garry 22:06

Oh, that was so funny, because what did Frankie say when she had the letter which she found in episode seven? And then she runs?

Amy 22:18

I need a grandma summit, yeah, or something like that.

Garry 22:21

She said I need a grandmother summit. A grandmother summit, yeah, and they both looked at her like what, and so she tells him what was in the letter and lets him read it.

Amy 22:30

And Gus is like I, you you know, I knew it, yeah, and well, gus says I didn't need a letter to believe right that they didn't sleep together, that mimi didn't sleep with franny's, right husband and that, and in that moment, that changes everything. Also because they've had this long-standing 100-year-old feud for nothing. Yep, all because of the guy, because he's a man.

Garry 22:59

Guys plural.

Amy 23:01

Guys, yeah, who would rather lie about having an affair? That still blows my mind, by the way. Then be truthful. Because of what Greed?

Garry 23:12

Because they wanted to take over the other one.

Amy 23:14

They wanted the other one out of the relationship.

Garry 23:16

Well, that's what abusers do, right? Yeah, they get what's the word called.

Amy 23:22

They isolate people, isolate you Well, and that's what Frank Jr does. He tries to to Amanda Right.

Garry 23:31

So let's count the men here.

Amy 23:34

So you had.

Garry 23:35

Sherman back in 1912. Right Right, he tells Franny that he slept with Mimi, which was not true. And then you have Frank Sr who said he slept with Gus, just to get the business which was not true. Just to get the business which was not true. And now you have Frank Jr who keeps telling Amanda throughout the show that they don't need these kind of people. Yeah, you know, and when Sergio had punched the wall he told her that well, they, you know they're the ones Like they started it Gus must have told them to tell him to do that.

Garry 24:11

You know he kept trying to isolate her from her family.

Amy 24:14

From her family.

Garry 24:15

And then that's when she goes into telling Nancy that she loves her and she's proud to be her daughter. Yeah, and. Nancy says I'm proud to have you as my daughter. And then they both jump ship, jump ship.

Amy 24:25

Jump ship and they go to the other side Go to her family, I guess not the other side and they leave Frank Jr by himself. So do we want to talk about?

Garry 24:38

Frank Jr a little bit. Since we're there, let me take a sip.

Amy 24:41

Well, you broke up with him a long time ago, I know but I'm telling you he's a great actor. He is really good Because he made me hate this character. I'm telling you I hate this character.

Garry 24:52

Oh, my goodness, and hate is a big word, yeah.

Amy 24:54

So we've already touched a little bit on him and how he, you know, talks to Amanda and still tries to isolate her. He tries to tell her that you know, may kept Gus's MS from her and you don't need those, like you said, you don't need those kind of people in your life and he just, he's just an ass.

Garry 25:14

Plain and simple.

Amy 25:15

He's just you feel for him a little bit in one moment you know he talks about we find out why he got the vasectomy and it's really sad.

Garry 25:25

Yes.

Amy 25:26

You know, in a lot of ways because he didn't want to have a son that was just like him.

Garry 25:30

Right, and so he recognizes it, but he doesn't do anything about it. Yeah, I thought that was going to be a turning point, but it wasn't. But it wasn't, it was not Right, right, he actually doubled down on that, but you feel for him in that moment.

Amy 25:45

But whereas, like you know, may, she recognizes it and she's changing, yeah, she's making an effort to change.

Garry 25:53

Yeah.

Amy 25:53

And he's the opposite.

Garry 25:55

Complete opposite. Yeah, so, and who was the? Was it Maya Angelo?

Amy 26:01

Yeah.

Garry 26:01

When people show you who they are believe them, believe them.

Amy 26:05

That's one of the truest statements you can ever live by.

Garry 26:08

Actions speak louder than words.

Amy 26:10

They really really do those actions showed. Yeah.

Garry 26:15

Big time.

Amy 26:15

And you know you keep. It reminds me of. Well, first we'll talk about Frank Jr. He threw the whole series. When you think about it, he was an ass.

Garry 26:24

Yeah.

Amy 26:25

Like pretty. And then the time he tried to act nice, he was just pretending and he reverted right back. Yeah, right, so you see it in every episode. But then it reminded me of the HBO series that we watched, called the Undoing.

Garry 26:40

It was with Hugh Grant.

Amy 26:41

Nicole Kidman and he has this affair and the woman he has an affair with dies and he's accused of it.

Garry 26:47

Right.

Amy 26:48

And he says he's innocent, and all this. And I remember the it was either the producer or the director, you know. And then you get to the end of that series. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen it and you're going to watch it, pause here.

Garry 26:59

Press pause.

Amy 27:01

You find out that he actually did kill her Right and he's like a monster actually. He actually did kill her right and he's like a monster actually and but through the through, each episode, you're kind of like your brain gives him the benefit of the doubt, right, not? Just because just like that movie but you know it's like you keep saying oh, you know he's, is that him? But the, but the director was like.

Amy 27:22

We're showing you that we are showing you who he is and people didn't want to believe it. Yeah, because those episodes were dropped weekly and people were like I don't believe he did. There was this big debate online and everything, and I remember you know him saying you know, this is the problem is that, just like you said, when people show you who they are believe them because their actions are not lying. They and their words might, but their actions are not lying.

Garry 27:46

They totally were not, and their words might but their actions were not, and that's the case with Frank Jr. Yes, sorry, that was my soapbox. No, that was very good. Actually I forgot all about that movie, and you and I were both. I think you believed it more than I did. I kept going no, I don't think he did.

Amy 28:01

I was like I know he did and I kept saying but Well, no, but I went back and forth a little bit too, though I didn't totally, because then there were scenes and you're like I don't know, could he have done it? No, you know, murder so drastic.

Garry 28:16

It was crazy.

Amy 28:17

Yeah, yeah, so that so Frank Jr. Yeah, he, he didn't make any waves and they showed us who he was the whole.

Garry 28:24

The whole time.

Amy 28:24

Series and that's who he is Yep. So and I did.

Garry 28:29

I had that one moment where he talked about his vasectomy and then that was it and he doubled down so Yep, so let's talk about Lindsay and Frankie, okay, and their relationship, because I felt like that one scene where you know, throughout the show, lindsay's you know texting saying you know, hello, I want to talk to you.

Amy 28:54

Right, because they're mad at each other.

Garry 28:55

Because you know the episode prior, sabrina accidentally said you're only hanging out with her because I told you so and Frankie was upset about that. You so and Frankie was upset about that. But that scene where she grabs Frankie by the arm to go talk to her and just said look, you know, when I first got here it was this x, y and z, but now you're my friend yeah, we're friends now yeah but it you can almost see the thought in Frankie's mind that I think she wants more.

Garry 29:30

What do you mean? Like she wants?

Amy 29:32

I don't know, but the way you mean like a relationship, like a relationship. I don't know that's what I got from that. I didn't take that at all Especially, maybe, maybe in the end, but we'll talk about that. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.

Garry 29:51

Oh, you think she wants more than just friendship, because she says what are we? Yeah, or was that at the end?

Amy 29:53

no, that was, that was them. Because, yeah, she kind of lindsey kind of put her in the friend zone and oh well, maybe I mean I don't know, maybe, yeah, I didn't think about it that way lindsey did that part really well. She did, she was so good job at that well and she's like it may have started off that, but now we've developed a real relationship slash friendship and I'm going to miss you, know I'm going to miss you.

Amy 30:10

And there's another relationship where, you know, frankie can't wait to get out of that small town, right? Because she feels like she lives in this small town and blah, blah, blah. And Lindsay hated it at first but has come to really like it. Isn't that crazy Right? Lindsay hated it at first but has come to really like it Isn't that crazy, Right?

Garry 30:27

I mean so you have that opposite.

Amy 30:29

You know like.

Garry 30:31

May and Jay.

Amy 30:32

Yeah, yeah, it totally happens. So, I guess we can come to the end. Well, towards the end, you want to go back to Amanda and Sergio? Yeah, so, Amanda and Sergio have a talk and Amanda really realizes she's been in a relationship for, you know, 18 years. Since high school, since high school and you know she needs to be by herself, not because she doesn't want to pursue something eventually with Sergio but, he reacts a little bit abruptly to that, because he says basically what he's not going to wait around, so we don't know what the story is there.

Amy 31:06

There might be more.

Garry 31:07

Right.

Amy 31:08

I think you said maybe.

Garry 31:10

Is it Well the exchange between them two? And this was after he had punched his hand. And after the contest she goes to Mimi's and he's sitting there soaking his hand, but she's telling them why she doesn't want that relationship right now, and one of the things she says is I don't want to make another mistake or a second mistake. And then that's when Sergio gets up.

Amy 31:35

Oh, you're right. And starts to walk away.

Garry 31:37

And she's like well, what are you doing? He goes, well, you just said you don't want to make the same mistake twice and he said neither do I.

Amy 31:46

Yeah, so he was on the other end of that at some point. Yeah, that's what you're led to believe. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. We didn't even talk about the competition. Well, we're going to talk about it right now. So they have the competition. Yes.

Garry 31:59

So you have everybody against Frank.

Amy 32:00

Frank Jr is by himself right, himself right, and he cooks. Mr chicken is the judge and the townspeople, the townspeople all vote for mimi, mimi.

Garry 32:15

And well, the combination, right, the combination. Yeah, the chicken, the chicken sisters, and they tell their little story.

Amy 32:18

And mr chicken, which I thought, was very brilliant, but mr chicken then, even though their chicken was better, the women you can see it on his eyes when he bit into it, that juice running and then he says but chicken is more you know more than just the meat it's the guts you know, and then he talks about you know, their macho crap with, you know, with frank his little podcast. So he gives it to junior he declares frank jr the winner.

Garry 32:45

Yep.

Amy 32:45

And then Sabrina loses her mind. She's like I'm it, that's it, I'm out, I'm done. You can't possibly think that that chicken was better.

Garry 32:52

Yep.

Amy 32:53

And she just.

Garry 32:54

She dropped the mic.

Amy 32:55

Yep, she dropped the mic.

Garry 32:56

She dropped the mic Because she's had enough too. Yeah, because she said that's when she do something that her daughter would be proud of. Yes, and I thought that was some, some very good character growth from her.

Amy 33:11

She has some really good growth throughout. Yeah, yeah, and her character was so funny and at times and up and down that episode when she was hung over, I'm sorry, that's just the funniest thing I like how she went around and said.

Garry 33:22

what did she say? I quit, I, I quit, I quit.

Amy 33:25

I'm done, done, done, did she say, done, it was something, but she kept turning to everybody.

Garry 33:29

It's like I'm done, I'm done, and then she stops, she walks off camera and then she comes back and says something else and then she leaves. And Lindsay, was she, said. I can't remember what Lindsay said, but it was something.

Amy 33:40

I don't. She smiled when her mom said she quit, I can't remember what she actually said.

Garry 33:44

Yeah, that's pretty cool. She thought that was badass that her mom did that.

Amy 33:46

Yeah, that was pretty cool, yeah, and then there's Shauna.

Garry 33:51

Oh, she is probably my favorite character she's so good, she's so funny.

Amy 33:59

She's so funny because she talks to Mr Chicken and she's like like she's all into him and he's eating it up right like he thinks she is into him and he is like oh, she wants my advice and he gives her all this advice, and then you find out she was using him to get the information which is so good.

Garry 34:20

If there's a badass in this show is her. Was she. She played it to the T when she came walking in, when the singing went back to Mimi's. They're packing up Because of course, they didn't win.

Amy 34:34

They didn't have money. It's Gus Nancy and. Amanda Mae? Yeah, I think Everybody but Frank Jr, basically yeah.

Garry 34:42

And they're packing up and in comes Shauna and she's like do y'all need some help? And Nancy turns around to go hand her a box and she goes no, not that kind of help.

Amy 34:52

And everybody was like what?

Garry 34:54

And then she goes I'm talking about money. And then Gus says something like what did Gus say? I don't know. Like where in the world did you find some money? But come to find out she's rich, yep, and she starts to talk about she worked 15 jobs, she moved to Maranac because of the low cost of living.

Garry 35:16

And she said this is only my checking account. And when May looked at it, may was like you know how much? Because she said how much money do you need? And then May was like you don't ooh that much.

Amy 35:28

It's a lot of money and she goes, that's my checking.

Garry 35:31

That's my business checking account. I have a savings too and the look on everybody's face.

Amy 35:37

I love when she says I want a franchise. I already talked to the mayor because we play pickleball Like she's got an in with everybody in the city. He doesn't know how to dink, so he owes me a favor.

Garry 35:47

That's right.

Amy 35:47

And so he's going to allow franchises on Main Street which I thought was really cool.

Garry 35:51

He lifted the ban he lifted the ban.

Amy 35:53

And then she says something like I'm the shark, I'm your shark, and she goes I'm your angel shark. And then she said something like shark with an angel, angel with a halo.

Garry 36:02

Shark with a halo?

Amy 36:03

Yeah shark with a halo, not shark with an angel. Yeah, or an angel with a fin.

Garry 36:08

Yes, pick your poison, you pick your poison.

Amy 36:09

I thought it was so good.

Garry 36:11

And she said from where I stand. We already have two franchises.

Amy 36:15

I just love the way that storyline came around, because she was really schmoozing up Mr Chicken, you think is she really into him, because he's kind of you know because she asked him.

Garry 36:25

she goes, so is it? What's up with Mrs Chicken?

Amy 36:28

Yeah.

Garry 36:28

And he's like can I tell you a secret? This is, there isn't a Mrs Chicken, it's called marketing.

Amy 36:35

Marketing.

Garry 36:38

She goes oh, she's kind of like that. She soaked it up like a biscuit, she did. She got all that knowledge from him, she really did.

Amy 36:43

I think, and you know she was making when you're that miserable in your life because she says something like I haven't been happily married for a long time and when you're just going through the motions, you make decisions that aren't the best sometimes, and everybody makes mistakes. So I think it was good that they kind of gave her the end where she's like I need to hold up, I need to get my life together, I need to be on my own for a minute.

Garry 37:12

And she kicks Junior out the house.

Amy 37:14

And you can kind of see why she made some decisions that she did. So I thought it was a good evolution of her character?

Garry 37:20

It sure was Also.

Amy 37:22

So at the end we see Sergio gets a text from someone that we don't know.

Garry 37:28

Probably his ex-wife, I think.

Amy 37:30

I made a mistake. I miss you. We don't know who that is.

Garry 37:33

We see Frankie auditioning for college. Which was pretty cool, yeah, and Amanda was there.

Amy 37:38

Gus took Nancy up on her offer to live with her which was amazing for Gus.

Garry 37:41

That was a fun scene too.

Amy 37:42

Good for Gus. And then the pastor comes to take out Nancy she gets a love, she gets what.

Garry 37:47

Nancy has a little boyfriend now. Well, we think she's like we're just going to bingo, yeah.

Amy 37:52

May has a realization after looking at a picture.

Garry 37:55

Yes, she says that's grandma, grandma Jarvis.

Amy 37:58

That's grandma Jarvis, and then she has some realization, which might be the baby. The baby that was given up for adoption, so that's going to be interesting.

Garry 38:07

Yes.

Amy 38:08

Amanda kicks Frank Jr out. Praise the Lord and smartly decides that she needs to be on her own for a while.

Garry 38:15

Yep.

Amy 38:15

May and Jay decide to stay.

Garry 38:17

Yes In.

Amy 38:18

Maranac and help the family Yep and Chicken Sisters opens. Yep, yep, they're the Chicken Sisters now. So it's a combination of Mimi and Franny's. Yep Yep, they're the Chicken Sisters now, so it's a combination of Mimi and Franny's Yep Right, and Frank Jr opens his restaurant with Mr Chicken called Mr Chicken's Cluckery.

Garry 38:35

In the Pancake.

Amy 38:36

House, in the Pancake House, wherever.

Garry 38:38

Yep, yep.

Amy 38:52

And that I kind of thought that that was going to happen, that he was going to hook up with him, him but it didn't dawn on me until they actually showed it. Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that. Yeah, yeah, that was really good. So it was a really good wrap-up of everything and there's a lot open. I mean, they can go so many places and I really hope I hope sabrina is back as a character. Shauna's got to be back Along with everybody who the main characters are. So I would love to see I'm hoping like Sabrina comes back to film, something Like she's doing a different type of show or something.

Garry 39:14

I think there's going to be a love relationship with Gruster. Oh, gruster, yeah, he brought her a little travel bag, a little travel bag he's into those little what did? He ask her and she said I'm just trying to get my life fixed. And he said I'm good at fixing things yeah, yeah, she said, oh okay. Yes.

Amy 39:30

So I think there's something there. I think there's something there. Yeah, so, so Whew, out of five corks, how many corks would you give this episode?

Garry 39:41

I'm going to give it five. I have to.

Amy 39:45

I thought it was good. I'm going to give it a four because I thought it was good but I wasn't like blown away, but I thought it was a really good wrap up of things. I would give the series a five.

Garry 39:57

Right, for sure that's fair. That's fair, you know sometimes I'm fair. Sometimes I'm not. I just felt like we learned a lot yeah we did. And a lot of answers. So, anyway, is that a wrap?

Amy 40:10

That is a wrap.

Garry 40:12

Well, thanks for listening. Be sure to follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss one. Also, follow us on social media if you really really like the show and are listening on Apple Podcast or Spotify. We would really appreciate your positive review.

Amy 40:26

We sure would.

Garry 40:27

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Amy 40:35

Join us next Tuesday when we begin our Tinsel Tuesday series.

Garry 40:40

Yes.

Amy 40:41

Everybody loves Christmas.

Garry 40:43

Yes, we do.

Amy 40:43

Where we'll review all things Christmas. First up, we're going to start with Mistletoe Murders Mistletoe Mistletoe. It aired on Hallmark Plus. It premiered on October 31st, on Halloween in 2024. You can still catch the entire season there, so go watch it and then come tune in every week for our reviews of each episode.

Garry 41:06

So instead of getting a kiss under the mistletoe, you get a murder.

Amy 41:09

You get a murder. Be sure to also tune in on Wednesdays for our Hallmark movie reviews. Until then, fill up your glasses and push play. Thanks for listening, cheers.