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Hallmark's Signed, Sealed, Delivered From Paris With Love

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In this first-class episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy sort through Hallmark’s Signed, Sealed, Delivered: From Paris With Love. The POstables are stamped with their most personal assignment yet when Oliver’s long-lost wife, Holly, unexpectedly drops in on the same day the team is scheduled to deliver divorce papers. With hearts on the line and old feelings addressed, will this film get a priority pass or be returned to sender? Tune in now to find out!

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Amy

Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things rom-com on the Hallmark Channel. I'm Amy.

Garry

And I'm Gary.

Amy

And I think you better pour the wine.

Garry

Yes, let me pour the wine.

Amy

We're pouring something a little different. We went with white tonight.

Garry

Yes, it's a lot warmer outside.

Amy

It's a lot warmer outside, so we are going with the Chardonnay.

Garry

That has been chill.

Amy

And then after the podcast, we will continue that bottle.

Garry

Yes, we will, we're done.

Amy

Today we're going to be reviewing, Signed, Sealed, Delivered from Paris with Love that originally aired on June 16th in 2015.

Garry

Wow, you can watch it now on hallmark plus yes, you can yes, you can why are we reviewing the ssd canon now?

Amy

tell me why. Why are we doing it?

Garry

now, okay, let me tell you. Well, when we were watching the hallmark channel, we noticed that to the moon and back was going to air in april that's correct.

Amy

Back in april, back in April, back in April. Yeah, we're in June, we're in June.

Garry

And we decided why not watch the pilot in the series? So we decided to do that, yep, and we fell in love, right.

Amy

Right, right, we did so. We watched the pilot movie and then the series.

Garry

Yep.

Amy

And then we watched To the moon and back. Yes, we did so. We kind of we saw the very beginning and then missed a whole bunch in between and then saw to the moon and back. So now we're going back and re-watching and reviewing all of the movies and the first one was for christmas yes which we love, love, love love love very much. You need to go find it, watch it, add it to your list of holiday movies. And today we're reviewing the second movie that was released after the series.

Garry

To Paris From Paris, from Paris From Paris. With love, with love, yes.

Amy

So there we are. So we're going to be adding bonus podcast episodes of each of the SSD movies as we watch them in chronological order of course, yes, we are.

Garry

Yeah, yeah, and you know what? What?

Amy

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Garry

And we would even read it during our podcast. We might, yeah, but you can also follow us on social media Facebook, instagram, blue Sky XNThreads. All social media Facebook, instagram, blue Sky XN Threads.

Amy

All the things, all the socials.

Garry

So now on with the show. Tell us who is in this one.

Amy

Who is in From Paris with Love Well, so what we'll do is I will talk about new actors and actresses that appear. I'll mention the core four, of course, but if you want to hear some of their work, that they've been in go back and listen to the very beginning of For Christmas or our To the Moon and Back reviews, because we list all of the actors.

Amy

All of them Some of their work. It'd be too long to list all of their work. So, of course, from Paris with Love stars the core four. Eric Mabeus returns as Oliver O'Toole. Kristen Booth plays Shane McInerney. Did I say that?

Garry

right.

Amy

McInerney, we're at a time with the last name. Crystal Lowe plays Rita Hayworth not to be confused with Rita Hayworth and Jeff Gustafson plays Norman. Also in From Paris, with Love. Appearing as Holly is Poppy Montgomery. This was her Hallmark premiere and, as far as I could tell, her only Hallmark production. Some of her other work includes 13 episodes of the ABC series Reef Break Unforgettable. She was in 61 episodes from 2011 to 2016.

Amy

That was a series with Jane Curtin and Dylan Walsh. They look kind of interesting. We might want to go back and watch that one. She is best known for her role in the TV series Without a Trace, where she played Samantha Spade in 160 episodes for the entire series run from 2002 to 2009. Sweet, pretty cool. And in 1996, she was in one episode of NYPD Blue and Party of Five.

Garry

Oh, wow.

Amy

Zach Santiago plays Ramon Rodriguez. Now I can't remember if I mentioned him before.

Garry

Yeah, you did, I did, Okay, well.

Amy

I'll just go over a few of his. Okay For Hallmark. He's in 10 of the SSD movies and a few episodes of the series. He was in Legend of the Lost Locket in 2024, christmas at the Golden Dragon in 2022, and Mary Go Round in 2022. And Mary is M-A-R-R-Y.

Garry

Okay, excuse me, mm-hmm.

Amy

He was in a series called Sight Unseen one episode in 2025. And Virgin River he was in three episodes between 2022 and 2023. Oh, virgin River Kevin McGarry plays Joey. River. He was in three episodes between 2022 and 2023. Virgin river kevin mcgary plays joey. He's been in a ton of hallmark productions with from paris, with love being his first oh, wow his debut.

Amy

He's nathan grant on wind calls the heart, where he's been in 76 episodes between 2019 and 2025. Some of his other hallmark work includes 2024's Reason for the Season. We watched that one. Do you remember that one? That was where the young woman has to earn her trust fund by granting the Christmas wishes to people who saved her life. He played the attorney in that he was in Checking it Twice in 2023.

Amy

The three Wedding Veil movies there were two of them in 2022 and one in 2023 okay and he was in the series heartland 48 episodes between 2016 and 2021 oh, wow some oh, and he will be in the upcoming hallmark movie villa amore, which will premiere as part of hallmark's passport to love on saturday, june 21st 2025, and our review of that movie will drop on Wednesday, june 25th Huh.

Garry

There you go.

Amy

Some of his other work includes an episode of Schitt's Creek in 2020, the series Taken after the movie I guess, one episode in 2018, and the series Open Heart 12 episodes in 2015. Brooke Nevin plays Caitlin. A few of her Hallmark projects include crashing through the snow in 2021, jingle around the clock in 2018 and the christmas cure in 2017. Some of her other work she was in one episode of tracker in 2024.

Amy

Tracker the series good trouble seven episodes in 20 between 2022 and 2024. The series scorpion she was in five episodes that's a great series in 2016 and she was in the series perception three episodes in 2014 another show that we really like yeah, that one got canceled.

Garry

You know, the scorpion reminds me of these characters too a little bit.

Amy

Yeah, yeah, you have a group of people that come together. Yeah, frank zotter plays ken for hallmark. He was in darrow and darrow in the key of murder in 2018, a dash of love in 2017 and garage sale mystery guilty until proven innocent and I don't have the year for that one oh okay, all right well he's also been in Alert. Missing Persons Unit one episode in 2025 and A Million Little Things for one episode in 2021. Yep, there you go.

Garry

That's the list. That's the list. Wow, you want some Hallmark trivia.

Amy

I want some Lay it on me.

Garry

This one's kind of easy. So Hallmark is based in which US city?

Amy

Kansas City.

Garry

Yes, kansas City.

Amy

Yes, kansas City because that's where they're having their Hallmark Christmas experience and all that jazz.

Garry

That one I knew.

Amy

That was easy. That was an easy one. Well, thank you for giving me an easy one and not making me laugh.

Garry

I know A lot of them are hard.

Amy

Yeah.

Garry

So is it time to drop the synopsis.

Amy

All right, let's drop the synopsis From Paris with Love. The Postables Oliver, shane, rita and Norman return to explore the mystery of true love as they deliver divorce papers to one couple the same day Oliver's missing wife reappears. Dun dun dun.

Garry

All right, Crazy right.

Amy

So what did you think? Well, I could say this Say it, lay it on me.

Garry

I was going into Science Hill Delivered from Paris with Love, thinking how in the world is this movie and the rest of them going to compare to Science Hill Delivered for Christmas? For Christmas, right, because Hallmark raised that bar like very high they did. It's so good, rest of them going to compare to science, it'll deliver for christmas for christmas right because hallmark raised that bar like very high.

Amy

They did us.

Garry

It's so good and after watching from paris with love, I have to say hallmark did a good job yes, I agree I loved this movie too. The characters, the way, the banter between them yes, the growth throughout the movie.

Amy

Yes, I have that as well, I mean, it was for me it was a good, good movie. It was good it's up there with For Christmas, you think.

Garry

Without giving away how many. It's right under, it's right under, it's close, it's edge and close. I mean you have to be way up there for Christmas, but this one was right there.

Amy

I guess when we're all done we can rank them, but it wouldn't be fair because they're all probably going to be great, yes.

Garry

Yeah, yeah, so what?

Amy

did you think? Well, we've seen two of the movies so far, like you just mentioned right To the Moon and Back, which is fast forward into the future.

Garry

Yep.

Amy

And we watched For Christmas and I'm not counting, like the pilot movie in this Right Right. I guess. So three if you count the pilot movie. I just feel like the science seal delivered series is like. It's like relaxing by a fire with like. For us it would be a glass of wine. Some people maybe a cup of coffee, it's just a. The stories are cozy, they're a warm hug and they're just really good for the soul it's like real life.

Amy

Yeah, so I just I really really enjoyed it too. I really loved it. I thought the notion of having the two storylines really parallel each other.

Garry

Yeah.

Amy

Was brilliant.

Amy

So you have you know Joey and Katie, that's one of the dead letters that they read. And then you have the dead letter from Oliver, right, that never got to his ex-wife and so, just to you know, you have the man, like I said, who accidentally sent divorce papers to his wife two years prior Right, but it got lost. And then you have Oliver's letter. What the year prior? Not divorce papers, but, and both men were in a different place mentally and emotionally when they wrote those letters. And just the way those two storylines intersect with Shane, the whole relationship, growth of Rita and Norman you just mentioned relationship growth, holly Oliver's ex-wife showing up and just the whole spring of it.

Amy

All right, they're in winter and they're talking about spring. Just really, really great, great writing and storytelling and acting.

Garry

Yes, it was.

Amy

So there you go. Those are my thoughts.

Garry

I mean there were times in this movie where I was tearing up.

Amy

I'm not even gonna lie, I know me too.

Garry

I mean, I have to say Oliver, and all of them are really good at those scenes where I mean are really good at those scenes where I mean it's like they're pouring their heart out.

Amy

I know I have some stuff about that.

Garry

I got chills and I'm tearing up. I'm like, oh man.

Amy

I know I have that part of my cheers. I know we're kind of jumping around, but yeah, there's just a lot of really really good stuff in this one too.

Garry

All right. Well, let's dive into favorite scenes.

Amy

Did you have any? No, how much time do we have? I know our last podcast was kind of long, but there's just so many good nuanced scenes that you want to talk about them all, and of course we won't right but, um, okay, so I had I tried to limit my list. I know one, so we'll go back and forth. Maybe. One is always going to be the analyzing and opening of the letter.

Garry

Yes.

Amy

The way they look at it, the things they say about it, where it's been, if it's like this one. The letter was stepped on and smelled a little like there was maybe some dew on it doggy dew or something on it, and I just love the ritual of that part of it. So, we had two in this case.

Garry

Yes, we did.

Amy

Norman opening his box of goodies when they go to the jeweler.

Garry

Yes, and he compares themselves. I have that as a reminder.

Amy

He's like we're the Postables, we're the Avengers and Incredibles. It just cracks me up, you know.

Garry

Yeah, it was like the jeweler was supposed to know what the postables are yeah, yeah, the jeweler's like what does he say?

Amy

He says, yeah, you've said that four times you know, or whatever. It's just so funny to me and you know, with everything, everything's so heavy right now in the world.

Garry

Right.

Amy

You know we have so much going on and it's just really just fun to watch these movies.

Garry

It really is.

Amy

They're heartfelt and they're just. There's moments of humor and fun and giddiness and childlike happiness.

Garry

And it's just, they're so good.

Amy

Yes, they are Anyway. And then I loved Ramon is the weatherman oh his character, Ramon.

Garry

I love Ramon. I know I love it when he's in it because he's got a different job every time.

Amy

It's so great, it's just so fun to watch him. So he's like the jack of all trades. It just cracks me up. All right, you name a few and then I'll go back into it.

Garry

Well, we're going to stay on Ramon, because I had that scene too. The weatherman, because he is. So it's like he's this character that's supposed to be goofy, but he then he's kind of like educated and he's, he's a man of the world, he's done a lot of things right, yeah, and I was wondering, like when they brought the letter or the video, whatever, when it was in french, and I was thinking, no, he doesn know French. He's just saying he does Right, but he knows French.

Garry

But he knows French and the way he told the story was so good.

Amy

That scene was so good, it was so good.

Garry

And when he, I think, doesn't, ramon, say something like I know how many different languages, and then Norm is a little jealous right, and he's in there and he's trying to say oh really, do you know Portuguese?

Amy

Yes, and then he names some other language, I forget what, and then he says Latin yeah, and then he goes, of course. Of course, or whatever. Latin Latin was the first one. Yeah, I think, but it's yeah.

Garry

Cameron's a little bit, you know, jealous.

Amy

Yeah, he gets his little jealousy bone on again you know, ramon's kind of like Rico Suave.

Garry

right, he's got something going on there. He likes Rita. But anyways, I had another one Well, you had mentioned it, your first one which was at the jewelry store. I just loved the little chicken he had in his briefcase.

Amy

I do. Why in the world would you have a chicken A?

Garry

rubber chicken. That was so funny, but when Rita and Ramon dance at the mailbox, grill yes. How I mean. I love that. She is so like goofy and quirky, but she just gets out there.

Amy

She doesn't care and she is her own person.

Garry

Ramon was like at first he was like okay, okay, but then he got into it and that was such a I bet you they had a good time filming that scene.

Amy

Like the Elaine dance and Seinfeld.

Garry

Yes, the little leg kick yeah little leg kick.

Amy

I thought that was. Yeah, they had to have laughed a lot during that scene. Yes, and that's where you know, and that's where too, I think, isn't that when Oliver says to Norman that's the first time you've admitted you?

Garry

have yes.

Amy

Because he says I can't compete with that.

Garry

Right.

Amy

Norman says I can't compete with that. Like he's dancing with her.

Garry

Yeah.

Amy

And Oliver says that's the first time you've ever admitted you?

Garry

Yeah, because he was like how do I compete with that, right? He's like what did he say? Get another broom.

Amy

Yeah, or something like that, yeah.

Garry

Yeah, that was a really good scene.

Amy

She's being swept off her feet.

Garry

Yeah, that's what it was. He says get a different broom. Yeah, Yep, yep, yep. So what else did you?

Amy

have. Shane first meets Holly in the DLO right.

Garry

She was good.

Amy

And then Oliver shows up. So that whole, just yeah, the dynamic between Shane and Holly, and then Oliver showing up and the look on his face when he sees that Holly is there Right. So yeah, it was like the air was sucked out of the room. It was like yeah, oh, my goodness.

Garry

You know what I liked? It was kind of a throwback to the old time movies. Remember when?

Amy

There's a lot of that in these.

Garry

When somebody was going from one continent to another. They do the old like cartoon map.

Amy

Yes, and the airplane going over. Oh, that's right, I loved that and that's right.

Garry

I love that, and they had the old time music too.

Amy

Yeah, they did. That was when.

Garry

Holly was flying from Europe to the United States.

Amy

From Paris, from Paris. I thought that was pretty good.

Garry

Yeah, no, that's a really good point, because they had a lot of old music in this one.

Amy

They did, they did.

Garry

Which brings me and I'll talk about this later on some interesting things. Another one that I liked was when Shane was up on the rack.

Amy

The scaffolding? No, it wasn't scaffolding.

Garry

It's where they put pallets of boxes.

Amy

Oh, okay.

Garry

Okay, I'm sorry, yes, well she was up on that which.

Amy

Oh, right right.

Garry

That wouldn't really happen in real life, because that's an insurance issue Well, okay. But she tells Oliver to come up, right.

Amy

Yes.

Garry

And then they're sitting there with their feet dangling and they're talking about forgiveness because Shane says you know you have to forgive, and I thought that was a really cool scene.

Amy

That was a great scene. Well, I think it's because Oliver too, who doesn't talk a lot about his emotions and everything, he's sort of trapped in that moment and he has to. Well, he doesn't have to, but it's. It's sort of a moment where you're I don't know what the right word is like you let things go and you're free and you're kind of up there it's just you and you know just him and shane, and yeah, that was, that was a great scene. Also, that was a little bit later.

Garry

Yeah, yeah, but did you have anything?

Amy

else, when Oliver walks out of the DLO after talking with Holly, and the other three act like they weren't spying on them. It was just cute and funny.

Garry

I just like scenes like that, where they're kind of peeking in, yeah, when Holly comes out first and they scoot to the racks and everything, and then Oliver comes out and they do the same thing again. Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Amy

I have a couple other. Do you have any more, or were you? Yeah?

Garry

I have one more.

Amy

I have two more. All right, go ahead. You want me to go?

Garry

Yeah, you go, go ahead.

Amy

All right. So the scene where Norman and Rita are tearing up when Shane says she's leaving when they come into the DLO right and.

Amy

Shane has left a letter and she says she's leaving for good. And then that leads into Norman and Rita's big scene. Yes, and I thought it was so cute when you know he doesn't understand why Shane is leaving and Rita says something like well, you know it's because Norman's like what does this have to do why? I don't understand. And what does Rita say? Something like Holly, it's Holly and Norman, like a guy, would be like what does Holly have to do with this?

Amy

Like has no idea. You know this whole big thing is going on. And then Rita says it was really cute when two people don't tell someone they care about them and then that person doesn't know they care about them, and then they find someone else who cares about them. She's crying and it just it was so well written and so well done. And then you know, and then Norman asks Rita if she's in love with Ramon. I know, and she says no, I know, you're tearing up right now this man.

Garry

I have something in my eye. I'm not tearing up. There's something in my eye.

Amy

And then, you know, she's like no, I'm in love with you, you know, and it just, it was so, so good, and his face lit up. The facial expressions on Norman are so good and they both were tearing up. And then, of course, they have the big kiss. Yes, he laid it on her and he smiles. Just such a sweet moment.

Garry

It really worked for me so that whole scene, really I'm going to have to go back and watch that scene because I swear, after he kissed her and the camera focused back on him, it looked like he was glowing.

Amy

Oh, maybe.

Garry

Yeah, I'm not sure, but it did look like that. And the funny thing about that scene is he goes I'm hungry.

Amy

Are you hungry After a big kiss like that, a big like teary eyed, heartfelt scene, yeah, and they kiss and then he goes I'm hungry and she kind of laughs. It was so cute. Yeah, he had a couple firsts in this movie.

Garry

One of my other favorite things, or my last one, is when Shane gets up on stage at the comedy show and he's warming up the crowd.

Amy

Norman, I mean Norman, sorry, right.

Garry

Norman gets up on stage because he's sitting there listening to Shane and Rita talk about getting Ramon to come in and do it and you know Norman wasn't having any of that Right right. He went up there and he was just so shy, and so he plays that character to a T.

Amy

At first he's and then he kind of opens up once he starts talking about things that he knows really well, and he starts talking about hey, we're in the Dead Letter, you know, and it's.

Garry

And it's so funny. Yeah, and Rita just walks up to the front of the stage and she's just looking up at him.

Amy

She's just watching him. Yeah, so proud yeah.

Garry

So that was well. Actually I did have one more, but you have one more.

Amy

Yeah, I have one more. So I loved, loved, loved the very last scene.

Garry

That's mine. Is that what you have too?

Amy

Yes, yeah, so it's just Oliver and Shane. He's put together a porch swing for her because she mentions at the beginning how she used to love to sit on the porch swing, right.

Amy

As a young child, as a young child, and so he and it was because she knew like the porch swing would go up just before spring was about to happen, right? So she knew the warmer weather was coming and change and all that, and she used to love it. So I just and I loved their like banter. So she knew the warmer weather was coming and change and all that, and she used to love it and I loved their banter.

Garry

I love that. Everything that she said Oliver had a counter to, there's a lot of metaphors.

Amy

Yeah, I quit the post office forever. And he's like no, you didn't. And then she says you won't have a hard time replacing me? And he says you're irreplaceable, or that would be impossible. We didn't even have that position before you came. Yeah, and then it was so sweet. When he says, um, he wondered, you know, he wondered what he would do if he was ever and I'm paraphrasing free from holly not in a bad way, but just he wondered what he would do if you know, if they ever, if she did come back right what would happen?

Amy

and if they did get divorced, what would happen? And then um shane asked him well, what did you do? And he said I went and bought a porch swing. Yeah, and I was like that was him telling her I was so good, oh, my gosh.

Garry

You want to know what that reminds me that was so, so good that reminded and you got me watching dawson's creek yes, and that your favorite, my favorite scene ever. You explain it because you do it better than I do.

Amy

That's what it reminded you of.

Garry

That's what it reminded me of.

Amy

So that scene reminded you. There's a scene in Dawson's Creek where they're at the anti-prom.

Garry

Right.

Amy

And okay, if you've never watched Dawson Creek, go watch it, Even though it's about young kids it's so good, so good. And there's a scene where Pacey and Joey are dancing and Joey's wearing some earrings that aren't really her.

Garry

Right.

Amy

They're not really her and he's and Pacey says to her you know, I don't, I don't those earrings aren't you? They're kind of. You know, they're too formal.

Garry

Right.

Amy

And Joey's like well, what you mean? I can't wear something like that. And he goes no, this bracelet is you, this is you know this says who you are. I know your mom and you love it so much because your mom gave it to you, or you know. He goes on this thing and she says you know, how do you remember? You remember that. And he says I remember everything. And I that, and he says I remember everything and I was just like oh my gosh, yes, and that's what it reminded me that's the scene.

Garry

Yeah, oliver remembered the conversation right right I mean, how cool is oliver remembers, I think everything, everything he's got like a photographic memory. I just love his character.

Amy

He's like this old soul and this you know younger man's body, not like a teenager, but just you know, yeah he doesn't even know what youtube is I know that's so funny. Oh gosh, okay, did you have any more? Scenes we could go on forever. I have so many in my notes but I yeah those were the highlights what about biggest cheer? All right um Do you? Want me to go, or do you want to go? I'll do it. Okay, you go first.

Garry

He didn't stay with Holly, that was my biggest cheer.

Amy

Oh, that was your biggest cheer I did yeah.

Garry

You know, from watching To the Moon and Back, you know he doesn't stay with her. But I thought that was cool and I loved how it was mutual. You know, I'm glad it wasn't one wanted it and one didn't.

Amy

That is exactly what I have as one of my big cheers too. I'm so glad they did it that way. Yes, yes.

Garry

And boy, when Shane was looking in the window and saying don't kiss her, don't kiss her.

Amy

And then they kissed and they kissed and oof Right.

Garry

Another scene Right.

Amy

Right, Tear up, Well, and then you think about Shane and how she is going off topic a little bit, but I have to discuss it. How she, you know she finds the letter that Oliver wrote. It never got delivered to Paris and she knows she shouldn't read it, but she's dying to read it. So she has Rita come with her and Rita opens it and reads it or it's already open, I forget. And then there's this whole like she's torn. She should give it to him.

Amy

They need to mail it because it should go to her, but Shane doesn't. You can tell she's torn, she doesn't want to, but she does the right thing, right, because it really should go to her, and yeah so.

Garry

Yeah, what about you?

Amy

That's along one of my first biggest cheers the relationship developments and emphasis on how important communication is yeah, right, so we had the. Yeah, I mean I love that they didn't have oliver and holly as enemies like you mentioned. They didn't make holly this evil person right and I really loved that they wrapped up that storyline. It didn't drag on for the for the rest of the movies it didn't. They didn't drag it out and it was.

Amy

It was mutual I mean, had it been a year before? You know, I think he really wanted her back. But I think when they had their dinner and their discussion and he's she's like you know, do you? I forget exactly what she says, Like do you still want to be married, do you want to get divorced? And he's like I want answers. Like I want to know why you left I you owe me that explanation, but it wasn't in a harsh way, it was just like we need to talk about it because I need to move forward so I really, really like that.

Amy

I you know the fact that we saw norman jealous but finally opening up more and rita admitting her feelings yeah, like I just discussed, the biggest cheer too was shane. She could have gotten rid of that dead letter to holly. Never sent it, but she does the right thing. And of course, you know we have joey and katie's storyline where joey you know he was going to divorce katie because he thought she was seeing someone else and again.

Amy

This is where the communication comes in and instead of talking to her about it, right, he's going to divorce her, but the divorce letters get lost he gets injured, katie and him fall more in love than they ever were before, even though they had kind of gotten lost. Um for a bit and um yeah. So if he would have just communicated it and then you find out she was actually talking to somebody she was the owner to ken, yeah or the owner of the comedy, and she wanted to do stand-up comedy.

Amy

To make him laugh, but Joey doesn't know that. So I just thought that you know their storyline really worked in there too, and it was about communication. And had they communicated?

Garry

that at the time he wouldn't have sent the letter.

Amy

You know there wouldn't have been the need for that, so I thought that really worked.

Garry

Yeah, the parallels were spot on, and one of the other things that I noticed was what's his name? Joey. He mailed it on accident because somebody was getting carjacked Right. And he got beat near death.

Amy

Right, that's what brought them back together.

Garry

Oliver was in the bank vault near death.

Amy

Oh, that's a good point when he wrote that.

Garry

So I thought that was a good parallel between the two stories.

Amy

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Between the two. That was pretty cool. Yeah, the flashback moments were really good too.

Garry

Really good.

Amy

Really good too, and one of my other cheers was the full circle moment of the dance moves. Yes so the dance moves are part of the series right, where Oliver learns to dance because his wife always wanted him to.

Garry

With Shane Well. She dances. He learns it with Shane Well.

Amy

Holly always wanted Oliver to learn how to dance. And he's dancing, and then his partner. Right, Doesn't something happen to his partner?

Garry

Yeah, something happens to her.

Amy

And then Shane steps in and does the dance moves. And then in the scene where Oliver and his well, his soon-to-be ex, where they have dinner, and then they do dance and Holly is impressed that he finally learned to dance she always wanted him to and they're doing the moves that he had done with Shane.

Garry

I know, and that's what she sees in the window Sad, yeah, yeah.

Amy

So do you have any other cheers?

Garry

Yeah, I like Ramon, just constantly makes me smile.

Amy

I know he really does.

Garry

He was a cliff diver.

Amy

Yes, they brought that up too. Doesn't Shane say, you were a cliff diver you?

Garry

weren't a cliff diver, he goes yes. I was, and she goes well, that's dangerous. And then he says once we face the things we fear, they no longer have power over us.

Amy

Oh, that's good, and then he goes, no they no longer have power over us, oh that's. And then he goes no like right, right no, I thought that was very powerful.

Garry

That was really good. Yeah, he's a good character. He's such a good character in these movies I love it.

Amy

Oh gosh, I know I can't wait to see what they have him do next so did you have any jeers?

Amy

um no, I have one more cheer oh, you have one more cheer, okay and this is mainly about and you mentioned this earlier and they're all're all in the. Jeff Gustafson is really good at this too, but Eric Mabeus is so good at showing without speaking a word. Yes, his facial expressions are, I mean. We loved him. I loved him in Ugly Betty, but this just really gives a much deeper look into his acting chops. I mean, I think he is so good.

Garry

I'm surprised he's not doing, you know, movies like movie movies.

Amy

Like I said, his facial expressions say everything without a word being spoken and I just that is. That is just a huge cheer from me. So, and there's so many times in this one, especially where he kind of gets, he's looking and he gets teared up or he smiles- because something really touches. It's just so good yeah, it is I.

Garry

I agree with you I'm going away, so did you have any jeers?

Amy

I did not me either. I didn't I I literally was trying to think what am I gonna say? Is a jeer and I I couldn't think of anything. I just, you know, like we talked about, and I really liked Holly's character.

Amy

Right you know she was trying to find herself too. I like that they. And then she said you know she was going to come back sooner, but then it just got harder to come back. So you understand a little bit more from her, like I wanted to, but then it just seemed like it was too long and too, much, and you know so, and she had her own journey of what she wanted to do, and you know, and then I just okay, so I love it.

Garry

One of the interesting things watching her throughout this movie was she kind of sounded to me like an actress from the fifties or sixties. Yeah, how they were so Well they played it like that. Right, they played like the old, so I didn't know if you call it that movies or something, yes, where the woman walks in with the heels and yeah, she was like ollie. You know, I don't know how to explain it, but it was very good.

Garry

It's very, it's very much got the and that's kind of oliver right like he's an old soul and uh, yeah, yeah and just one more thing, oliver, walking around the city every movie yes.

Amy

I had that in my notes too, he's always walking somewhere. Yeah, yeah. So, Out of five corks, how many do you give it?

Garry

I want to give it a five.

Amy

I want to give it a ten. Yes, no, I'll give it a five.

Garry

I want to give it a five.

Amy

It's got to be five.

Garry

Yes, I don't know it, just the acting is good. No green screens. No green screens, all good. It was great, all good. So is it, and you give it a five too.

Amy

I give it a five corks.

Garry

All right, so is that a wrap.

Amy

That's a wrap.

Garry

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Amy

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Garry

Cheers.