Hallmark's Three Wisest Men

On this episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy dive into the finale of the Three Wise Men trilogy with Hallmark’s Three Wisest Men! When Barbara announces she’s selling the Brenner brothers’ childhood home, Luke kicks off a mission to deliver the best Christmas ever! The episode blends heartfelt choices, tough conversations, and plenty of playful banter. From a tempting job offer to wedding planning to preparing for twins, this finale sticks the landing with sharp humor, abundant holiday fun, and a whole lot of heart!

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Transcript

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Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's romcom time where we'll sip some wine and review all things romcom on the Hallmark channel. I'm Amy.

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And I'm Gary.

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And we are gonna get right to it today, I think, right?

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Yes, we are. Let's do this.

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All right, let's do it. Let me take a sip first.

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Oh, go ahead. Be my guest.

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Yeah, it's been a long day. Today we're reviewing Three Wisest Men. It aired on the Hallmark Channel on Saturday, November 15th, 2025. And you can catch it right now on Hallmark Plus. The Plus. The Plus.

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You can send us an email to pour the wine. It's romcom time at gmail.com and let us know what you think about the final movie in the trilogy, the three wise men trilogy, or anything hallmark related. We're heavy into countdown to Christmas right now. Yes, we are. There have been so many great things. There's been lots of content. So we're we're enjoying watching everything, although we don't have time to review everything, but we're we're doing the best we can.

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Yes, we are.

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We're doing the best we can right now.

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Yeah.

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So if you want to, tell us who's in this one.

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Dulce is in this one. Returning favorites. Let's talk the Brenner Brothers first.

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Brenner Brothers.

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Paul Campbell plays Stefan. He has starred in more than 20 Hallmark movies, including The Santa Class. All now three wise men movies, Falling Together, The Nine Kittens of Christmas, and The Santa Steak, the Santa Stakeout, just to name a few.

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Oh.

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Tyler Hines plays Taylor. See, that messes me up a lot. I know. Was that purposeful? Probably not.

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I think so.

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He is, of course, a ginormous Hallmark fan favorite. Like Paul, Tyler has been in more than 20 Hallmark productions. We just saw him in Christmas Above the Clouds a few weeks ago.

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Yeah.

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He was also in the other two wise men movies. He was in last year's holiday touchdown, a Chiefs love story. I wanted to say chefs. I almost said chefs today. I don't know what's going on with me. All three Groomsman movies, which are great if you've never seen them. And we just watched Never Been Chris, which we really enjoyed. That was really cute.

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That was really cute.

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With Tyler. And of course, we loved him in An Unexpected Christmas, also. That was with uh Bethany Joylens, I think. That's another really cute one.

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Yeah.

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There you go. Check them out. Andrew Walker plays Luke. He has been starring in Hallmark movies for more than a dozen years. We just saw him in October in Adventures in Love and Burning, and we loved that movie. That was a really good movie. If you have not seen it, go check it out. We love Andrew Walker as Luke in the three wiser men movies, but he is so, so good in that movie with Rachel Boston. Yeah. And you need to go check it out. He was also in the Reluctant Royal earlier this year.

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Yep.

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He's in another one of our faves, Jingle Bell Run. Yes. He's been in all three now the third wise men movies. He will be in two more Countdown to Christmas movies this year in 2025.

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Busy man.

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He makes a cameo in Holiday Touchdown, a Bill's Love Story, which airs on Saturday, November 22nd. Coming up. That's coming up. And he's also in She's Making a List with Lacey Shaber, and that will air on Saturday, December 6th. We're really looking forward to those two. Awesome.

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Yeah, we are.

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It's been a busy season. It's coming. Margaret Collins plays Barbara, the Brenner Brothers' mom. She was in the first two movies as well, of course. I can't not mention that she is in the original Three Men and a Baby. I have to mention it every time we talk about her, where she played Rebecca, Peter's girlfriend. And Peter, of course, was played by the legendary Magnum P.I. himself, Tom Selleck.

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Isn't that so funny? Also, returning up in this.

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Say what?

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I just love it how she ends up in this.

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Oh, yeah. She very, very, very good casting. Yes. Don't you think? All around, but her for sure.

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Yeah.

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So cool. So cool that they got her in this. Also, returning in this movie are Nicole Major as Sophie. That is Luke's girlfriend, right? Or are they married?

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They're you know, that's a good question.

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I know. I can't, you don't know, I don't know. Somebody'll tell us. Somebody'll tell us. Miles Marthaler returns as Thomas. Erin Carpluck returns as Caroline.

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Right.

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Fiona Vroom, we see her again as Susie. Matt Hamilton comes in as Mark, the neighbor. Allie Liebert comes back in this one as Fiona. She was in the first one only, I believe. Right. Correct? Right.

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Why not?

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Christopher Shire shows up towards the end as Roy. Kimberly Susted, of course, as Dr. McLaren. She's so great. I know she's a good thing. I love her a little. It's almost like a cameo, but I mean, you know, she wrote it. It's so great. And then joining the cast this year is Lachlan Munro. He plays Bob, Susie's dad.

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Uh oh.

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Uh oh. With a bird. With a bird. You want to talk about the direct directing and writing?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sorry for that little pause. I was just I was thinking about the bird.

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I know.

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You were thinking about Jerry's bird, right? Jerry Bird. Jerry.

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Yeah, it was named Jerry.

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And Tom and Jerry. Anyhow, the three wisest men was directed by Terry Ingram. This is Terry's 101st directing credit. Man, that's a lot of directing credit.

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That's awesome. Yeah.

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His hallmark work is expansive. Just a few include the other two wise men. Oh, very cool. I know. Journey to You, My Argentina, Heart, and Happy Holidays.

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Howladays.

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Love on the Danube Love Song, Retreat to You, and 18 episodes of Chesapeake Shores. Whenever we're going to be able to do that, I always love it when TV series.

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You talk about the directors and the writers because I realize there's so many that we you know it coordinates with the movies and series that we love, right? So I I always know why we like movies so much.

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I know. And this, you know, it's something that I never used to pay attention to, but now I do.

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Now you do. Yeah.

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So this was written by Paul Campbell, Kimberly Susted, and Russell Halen. Or Hay Line, sorry. Hainline Paul Campbell. He has seven writing credits, and they're all for Hallmark. All three wise men movies. Myra Mora's Lighthouse. Mariah's, I'm sorry.

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No, probably Mora.

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Mariah's.

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You know what? I'm not sure.

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Well, whatever it is, please correct us. Christmas at Castle Heart and Unexpected Christmas and Christmas by Starlight. Kimberly Sustad, she has four writing credits, and they're also all for Hallmark. Hallmark.

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Talking is hard today as my. I know.

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I know.

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We've both I had some.

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They include all three wise men movies and Christmas by Starlight. So they do a lot of collaborations.

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Collaboration, yeah, it's cool.

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Uh Russell Haylein. Russell has uh nine writing credits, seven of which are for Hallmark. Hallmark, I keep saying Hallmark. This year's Merry Christmas, Ted Cooper. He also wrote the Santa class, Christmas Under the Lights, Three Whitest Men and a Boy, and this is the Santa Summit in The Measure. Merry Measure. You got through it. You got through it. It's been one of them days, right?

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You got through it. It's fine.

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All right. So do you want to drop this or not?

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I sure will. Three siblings deal with personal changes and their mother's decision to sell the family home before Christmas. Between in-laws, wild animals, and a mall Santa, they try to make the holidays perfect.

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The Mall Santa Claus.

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The Mall Santa.

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I like Mall Santa Claus.

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And the Mall Elf.

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Oh, yes.

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Yes, yes.

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And an elf he is. So we have to tell you we do drop spoilers. So if you haven't watched this movie yet, please stop the podcast, go watch it, and then come back, listen to ours or watch ours on YouTube, and tell us what you think, or you can do it in reverse. Watch it or listen to it, then go watch the movie. The choice is yours.

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The choice is all yours.

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That's right. So you ready to dive into it?

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I'm ready to dive into it.

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Okay. So what did you think?

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What did you think? You want me to go first?

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Yes, I do.

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Yeah.

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I I mean, what a great way to wrap up the trilogy, right? You know, it sticks to the formula that's worked so well and made this entire series shine, really, you know, life, the whole idea that life is usually perfectly imperfect, and that's okay. Yes, you know, you have ups and you have downs. I love that the opening mirrors, you know, the earlier films with Luke facing his reflection and reciting his what affirmations each time. And it just shows I love that they kind of followed him on his journey. Like the first one, he's real buff, right? He's, you know, looking in the mirror real confident. And then in this, in you know, three, three wiser men and a boy, he's all disheveled because now he's a parent and you know what it's like running around. And it's just it's so cute. And then this one, of course, they're having a baby, so he's doing the Lama stuff. I just, I just love that opening. And right away, you're kind of you know drawn into it, it's like a family you're going back to, right? You know, again. So I just love that the sharp banter, the chaotic hijinks, the brothers bickering, only to find their way back to each other, the mom being the glue holding everything together, and then real life weaving in and out of all of that. It's just all of it landed perfectly for me. So what do you think?

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I don't think I can say it any better. Gosh, that was awesome. No, I was gonna talk about the mirror uh scenes, and I love how on the third one it was different from the first two. It was like you said, it was more of the um laws or whatever.

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Yeah, like the breathing.

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Yeah, the breathing. Yeah, and it and you're right, in the first one he was all buff, and the second one he was confident, the second one. Yeah, and the third one. But I also like how they kept to each of the characters and how they each had some personal like um challenge. You know, uh Paul or um Stefan, he he was he's shy, indecisive, always getting in his way. You have Luke who you know he he wants to have every everything in order, but yet he struggles with it.

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You have uh he's like the caretaker, also he's like the caretaker, right? He's like the care because he took care of his little brothers, he wants to make sure everything's okay.

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Yeah, and then you have Taylor who I mean, he could have any job he wants, but he just doesn't he doesn't take the opportunity because he doesn't want to leave his family.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, I really enjoyed, and I and I'm glad they stuck to the the character path.

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So yeah, and and you know, Taylor delivering the one-liners, the witty banter, he's like the funny one, but he admires his brothers, you know, and they always have this come together where they talk, have a deep conversation. So yeah, which I'm sure we'll get into.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah. So it was a good, you know, a great, a great, I want I don't want to say end, but you know, it's the final movie in the trilogy for now, maybe. But yeah.

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Right. Well, I hope they have another one.

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I think I think it I think maybe somewhere down the road eventually.

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But yeah, yeah. So you want to get into favorite scenes?

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, let's talk about favorite scenes. What's one of your favorite? Okay, I have to start. I'll let you go first this time.

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I have to start off with the uh the Pinterest Family Center baby class.

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The oh yeah. Or Pine, yeah.

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Is it Pine?

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Yeah, I don't think it was Pinterest. I think it was Pine, yeah, something.

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Well, I just thought it was so funny because it was um it was Luke and um Sophie. Sophie. I thought it was so funny because I mean that's not your normal teacher, right? She's coming right out of the gate saying how you know how crazy it is to have all these kids, all these kids. And the the thing that really made me laugh was that her husband was there in the back and he was holding like three children, and she called him what, Tom, and his name is Tim.

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Yeah, he has to correct his own wife.

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I just thought that was so funny. And Luke was like, oh my god, what did I get myself into?

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But you're right. That and it's so great because you know, everybody you go to these classes, and you know, the women who lead it, I mean, and it's great, and they're all like, it's a beautiful thing, and parenting is the best, and you know, and that's what they usually say, and I just love how it kind of flips it on its head a little bit, and it's like, no, it's hard. Yeah, you know, kids drive you nuts sometimes, you know. And then when they do show the dad, and all like all three babies are crying at once, that's life, you know, it's not all roses and they try. So I you're right. It was a really good scene in that they sort of flip the script, right? Yeah, like if you were the teacher and you could really say how it how it is, you know, people who are being real with you and giving you realistic expectations, although she was over the top, but you know, of course, she was very over the top. Oh, well, yeah, yeah.

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But but then later on in the show, they're shopping, Sophie and him, and she's all like going with the flow, and she's like, What's wrong? And he's like, uh, I don't want to end up like Tim or something like that.

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Yeah, he was fixated on yeah, because Tim, the dad and the the the classes, right, the class teacher's husband, he's all like disheveled. He's holding two babies, one in the back, two in the front. He's you know, he can barely open his eye. Yeah, it is so good. Yeah.

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So what was one of yours?

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Um, one of my favorite scenes was sort of at the beginning when um Taylor first gets home. He's been to California, right, to interview for a job or or find out about a job. Right. So he he's been out there in San Francisco and he gets home and he comes in the house. And I just love the scene. Thomas runs to him. Right. You know, the family keeps going, well, how did it go? And he keeps kind of avoiding it. And there's all this like sort of family chaos going on around, you know. And I just, you know, and that's when Thomas, you know, throws a piece of paper at them and it's the flyer, the house is on sale. So er, you know, all the attention gets diverted off of Taylor. I almost said Tyler, Taylor, in that moment. And he's, you know, because now they're focused on the fact that their mom is selling the house. And I just thought it was just such a realistic look at life, you know, and you walk in, there's a million things going on.

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Yeah, it's kind of chaotic.

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It's not all, yeah, and it and the the chaos of life. So that that was one of my my favorite scenes. And then of course, when they find out she's selling the house, both both um Luke and Tyler Taylor. Luke and Taylor look at Stefan because they're ready for him to pass out. Right. Right. Because that's what he normally does in high, you know, like stress situations like that. He almost can't handle it. So and he's like, What? I'm fine. So that whole first that that whole scene wasn't the first scene, but that whole scene I went.

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So yeah, that that was good. I really like that.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Yeah, that was really good. Well, so what was another one for you?

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Oh, there were so many. Uh I know, I know.

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It was so there really were that you want to just talk about, huh?

SPEAKER_02 17:20

I have to go with the medieval Christmas with Yes, that was really good.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Oh, you're jumping like, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you know, these are my favorite scenes. Yeah, you I know there was a lot before that, but these are some these are mine. These are mine. I'll be my favorite scenes. Come on now. Let me have my favorite scenes.

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You're fine, you're fine, you're fine. They're your favorite scenes. You're not gonna be able to do that.

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But I just love how they I don't know who the costume or set designer was, but yeah, kudos for you making the swords out of the wrapping paper.

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The wrapping paper. Yeah, I had that in my notes. They're wrapping paper swords.

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Such a fun scene. And the sound effects that Luke and um Stefan were making like sword sounds. Zing!

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Zing. Yeah, they're so funny.

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And then it shows them at the end laying on the floor like they had just gone to war or something.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Well, they had with each other, right?

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They told Thomas it was a Brenner Brother tradition.

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To do the medieval Christmas, yes, yes. So and I like, you know, that's part of the continuity between the movies also, because remember they did the tenth thing for Thomas in the second one. And so that was that was really cool that they did that. I mean, they had to have had so much fun doing that.

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I wish they would release bloopers.

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I know.

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I bet you they're so funny.

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They probably are so good.

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Goodness. I would love to see them. So what about you? What was another one of yours?

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Uh, I really liked when, you know, we kind of talked about the banter um just between Taylor and his brothers. He just really brings it, you know, throughout the whole movie, and I won't go into specifics, but you know, the one scene um I was just looking for it where so Stefan has to stay at his mom's also. Taylor still lives at his mom's. Stefan has to stay there. I I also liked that part of the story where all three brothers, well, Taylor lives there, but the two other brothers end up at the house, right?

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Right.

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Because um Stefan has they have like a leak in the roof, and then um Luke and Sophie, she's close to giving birth, and with Luke working, their mom wanted them to move in just so you know she could kind of watch over her for a little bit. So they're all back in the house for one last Christmas. And I love when Stefan goes to the basement and his and Taylor's banter was so good. You know, he's like, basement's ours, since when? Since now, says who, says me. How is that fair? And then they both yell for their mom. They're like, Mom, you know, and they're adult men, you know.

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And she says, work it out.

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That's still yeah. And then she yells, work it out, like a mom would, like just figure it out. Like she's probably been saying since they were, you know, five or whatever. So I just I thought that was really cute. And then they work it out by rock, paper, scissors. Oh my god. So I just I thought that was really cute. I love the scene where they're getting ready to go shopping. And I was like, is that a little Christmas vacation hint? Yes, you know how the whole family goes. It's gotta be. But then that scene leads into Stefan thinking that's the whole bird scene. Right. Right. The bird, he thinks the bird is dead, which I mean, do birds do that? I don't even know.

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I I don't know.

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Do they I mean if they do, that'd be pretty funny. So the bird acts like it's dead, Stefan doesn't know what to do, the bird flies away, and that becomes a whole thing in the movie. And I thought that was really cute. And the fact that that's probably hopefully maybe a nod to Christmas vacation, you know, we love because that is just obviously one of our all-time favorites, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:11

I guess it is.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Do you have any other favorite scenes?

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah, um, the the whole rodent scene, because I have that also, yeah. The Brenner brothers, you know, they they instead of chopping down a tree, they go to some back alley uh tree store. Uh what was his name? I can't even remember the guy's name.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Oh gosh, I didn't write that down.

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I can't remember it yes. Buy a tree from this guy, and then you know, the whole family's there. Um, Sue's dad's there, and all of a sudden he says uh Sue's dad says, Rodent, and they all look and like, what? And come on now, that's a Christmas vacation.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

That is a total Christmas vacation moment.

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Yes. So then the scene just goes into a chaotic mess, and everybody's running around, the tree falls down. Um Luke is chasing it, right? He thinks he gets bit, but he steps on it. You come to find out he steps on an ornament. But then that's when um uh Taylor, I wanted to say Tyler, but Taylor's ex-girlfriend comes in. And it the funny part of all that is Taylor and his girlfriend, Caroline, are eating popcorn while everybody's freaking out.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Yeah, they're watching all the chaos go on.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Yeah, and and then when Fiona comes in, uh Taylor's old girlfriend, he like faints.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

He he's the one who passes out stuff in this this movie. It's actually Taylor.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

That was so funny. The popcorn goes up in the air. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

That's cute. Yeah, love this scene. I had that also as one of the scenes I thought was just so great. So great.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Okay, what about another one? You have any more?

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Uh, I have a few.

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I know there's so many.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

I I know because it just all works so well together. And it does.

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It does.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

And and they're favorite scenes for different reasons. Like the next one I'll mention is when they so they end up at the hospital, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Well, the hospital scene isn't that's a good scene too, but that wasn't the one I was gonna talk about. But um Taylor because he fell and bumped his head, and Susie's dad because he thought he was bitten by the rodent, right, or by the guinea pig, or whatever it was, and they he ended up that ended up not being the case. But then so after they're there, the the boys go home, right? So they're going home from the hospital. Susie is upset with Stefan because she finds out he was the one who actually he's the reason why the bird escaped, right? And he didn't tell her. Caroline is upset with Taylor because Taylor didn't say that Fiona was working at the place that offered him a job.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Out in Silicon Valley, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

So she's kind of she's upset with him. And then I'm trying to think if Luke Sophie was there at that. Uh maybe not.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Yeah, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

But I think Luke is there because they talk about because they they talk with their mom then, right? And Taylor admits, you know, he's moving, but he doesn't want to move, and they have this sort of great moment.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

And then they all hug. The hugging scene was really cute, and then they go shopping, right? And now we have product placement of home goods, home goods, home goods.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Oh, oh my goodness, what a shout out!

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Which is great, you know, it's like that was kind of like a funny, like a self-own kind of thing, you know, where they obviously home goods is sponsoring it a little bit, and you know, and so it's all over there, and then they, you know, and who doesn't love home goods? I mean, I know we do, so great product placement. And of course, then that leads into the star on the tree. Hello, that was so cool.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

The way they did that, the way they did it was awesome, man. How they how Steph and Luke lifted up uh Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Taylor. Well, he just goes and stands in front of the tree and holds it, and then they know to lift him up. It was just so, so cute. And you're totally believing the story. That's why the casting is so great, right? Like they're brothers, and and you know, of course, you read articles about how they're all close anyway now, probably largely due to the series. Um, so I just thought, yeah, that was that was cool. Do you have any other favorite scenes?

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Yeah, I the garage beer scene.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yes, I'm glad you're bringing that out because that would be another one for me.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Because what's so funny is in the first two movies, when they use the van to kind of talk and tell each other that they're sorry and they love each other, and this time it was the garage with beers, which I thought was kind of funny. I thought it was a good name, you know, uh garage beer. Garage beers. Yeah, because Taylor and and Stefan see Luke in there. Well, actually, they're they're like, let's go get let's go get a beer in the garage. And they are all sitting there around and they talk about how they they're sorry and they love each other, and then they talk about how they're gonna help each other fix the issues that they're having.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

So that I thought that was a really good scene.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

I I do too. I totally agree. I had that as one of my scenes also, and you just described it perfectly. They they're having issues, each one is having their own issue, right? And then they talk about what they're gonna do to resolve it for each one, and and that's where Taylor's character kind of complements the other two, like he's done, you know, in the previous films. He's sort of the one who comes in and says, Hey, you know, I admire you for this, and you're great for this. And you know, so it it's such a great that's I like like you mentioned that they did it a little differently. It's the same concept, but a different location, right? You know, and slightly differently done. So I I thought that was great. Yes. I like that also.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

What about you?

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Yeah, the other one, of course, when they walk into the mall with their Christmas suits, you know, the whole also the whole they're trying to get this toy right for Thomas because he kept stalling on what he wanted and they finally find out, and they walk into the mall. That I wonder if that was a shout-out to sort of jingle all the way if somebody likes that movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Phil Hartman and Rita Wilson, which is a really cute movie. Um, because it's about a little boy who wants this toy and the dad has forgotten to Mighty Mech, I think it was then it's too late, huh?

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Mighty Mech, I think the toy was called.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Well, that was in this movie, yeah. The other one, it was something different. So yeah, so I wondered if that was a play on Jingle all the way a little bit. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But anyway, so then they go into the mall, right? And they're all in these the Christmas suits, but Mark the neighbor is in a gingerbread outfit. So I mean that was just so character, so well character driven, you know. Uh so that when they're walking through in slow motion, and then the whole scene where Taylor's on the phone, but he they're in the ball, the other two are in the ball pit and he just is chomping at the bit and he's trying to get off the phone, right? He's like, gotta go, okay, might he can't wait to get in. He's like, I leave you alone for three minutes, you know, or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Yeah, that that was funny.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Yeah, I mean they're really good.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

They're fighting this woman over the toy in a ball pit.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

How funny is that? So what else? You have any more?

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Uh, I could talk about others, but I I think that's a good without talking about every scene. I like that um, you know, we saw some recurring characters come back.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yes. You know, you had sure did.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Dr. McLaren, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Dr. McLaren, we had Mr. B.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Mr. B came back, who you recognized I did not at first. Because I was like, that has to be somebody. I can't figure it out. And you figured it out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

And he was the um the school director in the first movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Yep. And or the second movie.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Was it the second one?

unknown 29:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

Because they were because Thomas was older, a little bit older. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But and then um Fiona.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Fiona, yeah. Fiona's back.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

And Mark.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

And Mark, Mark, I love Mark.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

I know he's so good. He's what does he say? What's up, nerds, or something like that, or a nerd.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Well, you know what's so funny going back to that one scene with the pool ball, the uh pool full of balls, is you see Mark walking out with one of the toys, the Mighty Mech toys. Yeah. And I'm thinking, oh wow, he just took that for himself. But really, and we'll get to it at the end, I'll bring it back up. But I I thought he was like, oh wow, he just walked out of there with one.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

He does walk.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Left everybody else fighting for him, right? But yeah, that that was and and the other cool thing is I like how they kind of like you said with the garage scene, they changed it up. It wasn't in the in the van. The mirror scene at the beginning with Luke, that was different. And then when they were in the mall and they were fighting with Mr. B the elf and all the candy canes kind of and the whole set came crashing down, kind of like in the second movie.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yes. Oh, yes. Like the oh, I didn't even think about that. Yes, so like the tech like the um school show.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Like the school show.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Oh, I I didn't even think about that. You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

But you know, Mr. B is just living, right? Because it's the second time it's happened to him. So yeah. So it was really good. It was really good. So you want to jump into cheers?

SPEAKER_00 30:50

Sure, we can jump into cheers.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

All right, what you got? What you got?

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Oh, what I got, what I got. I mentioned it at the beginning. You know, families and relationships are perfectly imperfect, and that is captured so brilliantly with you know, all of the wit, the humor, and the heart throughout really all three movies. I mean, this is the culmination, right? Mm-hmm of the whole series. Three wise men, three wise men and a baby really took Hallmark by storm and in fact was the most watched movie when it came out in 2022. Wow. And they sort of, you know, broke some norms. You don't have these perfect relationships. You don't have, you know, like I I was reading an article where they were talking about in this movie in particular, where, you know, Taylor and um Caroline, they're gonna move to San Francisco, but they're not married. And that never used to be seen, you know, in the past. I mean, it seems odd to us now, but it it it wasn't that long ago that that was, you know, that that was not the norm, you know, on Hallmark.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

It wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

So I just I just like it. The writing is so good. You know, it's it's all of it, the formula works. They found this formula, and you know, I'm I'm sure they probably, you know, maybe they hoped it would be a hit, but it just it just really worked. It's real life, it's families arguing. Not all siblings are on the same timeline. You know, you don't get a job, then you know, go to college, get a job, get married, have kids, your life is great. You know, it doesn't always work out that way. It's not always linear like that. And I like that they show that, you know, I relationships can be hard and messy, but also beautiful. So I just I I just think it's really well done. And and yeah, it's a little, you know, hijink some of it, right? Like a little bit over the top, some of it, but it it works, it's not too much. It's right, it's well done. It's not cheesy, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I yeah, I don't find it cheesy at all, really.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Me either.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Yeah. So what about you? What's one of your biggest cheers?

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Um, I I just loved how they just like I said earlier, they kept everything all three uh movies flowed together. And I just like how they kept the characters the same. I like how they kept the in the the little, you know, the issues that they were having, they kept them the same. I just, you know, it I felt like um the whole family dynamic, how they stuck up for each other, and when that scene where Barbara is, you know, uh Susie's dad is going in on Stefan and Barbara just had enough, and in a polite but very like stern, commanding way, told him, Your daughter, in a sense, your daughter is lucky to find a man like my son.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:48

And I thought it was such a great scene.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Right, because she's like, he has a bigger heart than all of us combined. Like he's he he may not be the outdoorsman that you want. But yeah, that scene was really, really good.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Really good.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

And she did she and what's funny is before that she had been like, we're gonna have a normal and nice dinner. Like she's like scolding the kids, you know, like, look, we're gonna sit down for dinner and it's gonna be normal and nice, you know.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

And you could just I could just picture my mom saying something like that too. Yeah, we're gonna say we're gonna enjoy this meal family and normal.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

Got it? Yes, nice, and then you know, of course, Tyler at dinner is like it's nice and normal, right? You know, yeah, it would've so you have any more chicks? Oh my gosh. Um I'm not sure a different trio of brothers would have worked. They all just the chemistry between the three of them is is so, so good. It's like magic on the screen, right? The three of them when they're together. And the way they just each you've talked about it, the way they each embodied the their character, you know, they're from the same family, but they're all so different. And it was just, it was just really well done.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

And then, you know, my uh my final cheer, although I probably would have more, you know, if I could talk all night, but um, you know, you're never too old for a pep talk from your mom. No, right? Like they the three of them get a really good pep talk from their mom, and it's just such a cool moment, you know, and when it's when kind of like about their dad, you know, he didn't leave because of you, he left because of him, you know. So, and you guys are nothing like that. And she really, you know, how you know, kind of puts it into them that you know, they're ten times the man he was, and you know, so I just I just thought that that was really, really good.

SPEAKER_02 35:40

Yeah, I I like I said, I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

Yeah. Did you have any other cheers?

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Just in in when um they were at the hospital and Sophie has the uh the babies and they're they're getting married, and and I just this is where I thought Mark was a cool dude. He the toy he took in the one scene with the pool balls, yeah, he puts it on the floor for Thomas. No one's watching. He he's in a Santa Claus suit and he just puts it there and walks out. And I just thought that was very cool because when Thomas noticed it, notices it, he really thinks Santa Claus, he Santa Claus heard him and Santa Claus delivered.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

His toy.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

And the Brenner brothers don't know who did it.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

Right. They don't they're like, did you do it? Right. I didn't do it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

Yeah, that was a really good that was cool.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

So that that were those were my cheers.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Now I will say we did um we did watch the extended cut. We watched it first um live, right, when it aired. And then when you watched it on Hallmark Plus, there's a slightly different ending. So we'll talk about that. And you know, if you haven't seen that and you want to go watch it, press pause, go watch it, and then come back. But I actually liked that ending better.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

I I liked maybe I I won't go into detail, but I I really liked the way that ended.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

I mean, the the the ending that we got to see, you know, when it aired live was good. I mean, you got everything wrapped up, right? Like you have a good you're in a good place with all of the characters and you know, and everyone's sort of good in that moment. And um, but I just I really liked the extended cut.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Yeah, me too. Yeah, as I truly did.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

That that'll be my ending in my mind anyway.

unknown 37:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Well, I hope it's uh uh an ending that is gearing up for another beginning.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Oh, well, we'll see. We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

You know, you you you talked about real quick, you talked about home goods, but they also had King's Hawaiian rolls. Yes. And I and you and I were talking about and we kept thinking, is she moving to Hawaii or something?

SPEAKER_00 37:47

That's what I thought. I thought it was gonna be like a try to be like a subtle hint from her, like you guys don't pay attention to me, you know.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

Yeah, because they really focused in on it a couple two times they showed them.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

So what about jeers? Did you have any jeers?

SPEAKER_00 38:01

I bumped the table. Sorry if it got a little shaky. Um, the only jeer that I would have would be that they should probably have some more later, although I know it's a trilogy and that's probably it, but that would be my jeer. I want more. What about you?

SPEAKER_02 38:18

Yes, I have one. Why did they not do the nutcracker dance?

SPEAKER_00 38:26

I don't know. I don't know. It's a good question. I was waiting for it.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

I was waiting for it, and they didn't do it.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

They did not do it.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

So that was that was my one.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

That's a good question. Maybe the tussling around in the ball pit sort of took over for that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

Well, yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I I like to dance better.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

I know, I know. You gotta get one last dance.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

One last hurrah. Hey, I have a question for you. Okay Is a Christmas suit 007 attire?

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Does that work for Tyler Hines?

SPEAKER_02 39:09

It it can.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Can a Christmas suit like that work?

SPEAKER_02 39:14

I think so. I'm telling you, James Bond? I think they should make a movie with him as a like a spy, like a a 007.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Kind of like they did um Sugar Plumbed.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Where she came out of the storybook and the whole movie was about her getting.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

See, there it is. We just wrote the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yeah, we just wrote the whole yeah, Hallmarkified 007.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

So, Mr. Hines, if you're watching, Paul, if you're watching.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Or listening.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Or listening.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Yeah, or listening.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Get it oh get it done. Let's not get it done.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Get it done, Hallmark.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

We would forget Kimberly either. Let's forget Ultimate Spy. Let's get together and write this thing. It'll be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

What was your tinsel top moment?

SPEAKER_00 40:14

There were so many. I really liked the mom and her son scenes.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Especially the one I just talked about where they all hug and then you go shopping. That that whole that would probably be my tinsel top moment, her pep talk, and then loved it, you know, them hugging.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

And yeah, I think that would be and her sticking up for the I was gonna say the same thing. Just the whole. Yeah, I know. Really, I I have it right here.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

I have it written down.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, I have it written down. I'm pointing like everybody can see it. Um, I really thought that that whole family dynamic was was spot on. Yeah, so out of five ornaments, how many are you gonna put on the drink?

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Gosh. You go first this time. I'm gonna put first last.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

I know. I'm gonna put a four and a quarter. A four and a quarter? Yes, I'm getting it a four and a quarter. They didn't do my dance. I gotta tell you, I gotta say.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Oh, so you're you're docking some. I I got you. I got you.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

So I'm docking some. So what about you? Okay. Good.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

I thought it was really, really good. It you know, it sort of it it it was, I mean, it was a really great way to end the trilogy.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

I thought. I thought they they really brought it and um yeah, I really enjoyed it. Okay, four and a half is good, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Oh, yes, it is. I think so.

SPEAKER_00 41:43

Anything hanging for four Arnaments on the tree, four and a half, huh?

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Yes. Four and a half. I got a four and a quarter, and we're good to go. Yes, right? So is that a wrap?

SPEAKER_00 41:53

That is a wrap.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

All right. Well, thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

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SPEAKER_02 42:06

Cheers.