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Ep. 15- Faith, Fellowship, and Finding God's Purpose with Pastor Jackie Hill
Sometimes God's greatest protection happens when we don't even realize we need it. In this deeply personal conversation, Pastor Jackie Hill shares the incredible story of how, as a sheltered homeschool student, he unknowingly gave a ride to a pimp and prostitute, then accidentally picked up what turned out to be a dealer amount of crack cocaine. It's a powerful reminder that divine grace often shields us from dangers we don't even perceive.
Having served at Roseville Baptist Church in Minnesota for 19 years, Jackie offers unique insights from ministering in what he describes as "the least churched state in the country." The contrast between his Bible Belt upbringing and his current mission field—where he regularly meets people who have never heard of Jesus—has profoundly shaped his approach to sharing the gospel. His passion for developing new church leaders shines through as he describes ordaining approximately 18 men as pastors or deacons during his tenure.
Both B-Rob and Jackie reflect on their transformative experience at "Man Camp," a Christian men's retreat. Their stories of divine appointments and unexpected blessings—including how a simple emergency poncho became a profound provision—illustrate how removing worldly distractions allows us to see God's hand more clearly in our lives. This conversation will challenge you to notice the small evidences of God's care that often go unrecognized amid life's noise and distractions.
The episode concludes with Pastor Jackie offering practical spiritual advice tied to Easter's resurrection theme. He encourages listeners to seek "new life" in every aspect of their lives through consistent time with God—even if just for a few minutes daily. Connect with Pastor Jackie on his 1717 Podcast where he answers biblical questions on everything from theology to cultural issues.
What small blessing from God have you overlooked today? Listen now and prepare to see His hand in the details of your life with fresh eyes.
Hey guys, this is B-Rob and it's the Food for Thought Faithcast, and it's Monday, the day after Resurrection Day. Yesterday was a great day and we've got a special guest for you. You heard in episode 13, pastor Jackie Hill's sermon Easter Sunday sermon and we've got Pastor Jackie Hill on the line right here. How are you doing today, jackie?
Speaker 2:I'm doing wonderful B-Rob man. It's so good to be on here with you and hear your voice after spending some time with you. Man, it's just great. The old man camp, the man camp yes, that was a wonderful experience.
Speaker 1:It was a very wonderful experience. I know we can't talk a whole lot about man camp, but if you could just say one thing you took from man camp, what would it be?
Speaker 2:I think my biggest takeaway from man camp that I've already seen God doing in my life back home is just making sure to prioritize the right things in the right order God first, family second, then everything else. And that's just been a big, huge transformation. I knew that before I went to man camp. Right, but knowing is one thing, doing is another and having brothers in Christ like you around me there to encourage you and pray over you and all that man, it really helped me come home and see it take root.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the thing that helped me the most was the no phone. That was the detoxing from the world. That just sucks on you. It just sucks the life out of you. The phone does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's amazing to get away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it definitely helped to get you focused on those things without the distractions.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep. Well, jackie, tell us a little bit about yourself. Tell us how old you are, where you're from and what you're doing now, that sort of thing. Yeah Well, jackie, tell us a little bit about yourself. Tell us how old you are, where you're from and what you're doing now that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm originally from Memphis, tennessee, in that area, and been a Christ follower since I was six years old, got saved in children's church, so I'm a big fan of children's ministry and training up those children to follow the Lord early on. But yeah, I'm 44 years old. I live in Roseville, minnesota now. My wife and I have been married to be 18 years in August. We have three kids a 15-year-old son and then a 12-year-old girl and a 10-year-old girl, and we just love being here where God has us.
Speaker 2:I've been in Minnesota now 19 years pastoring at Roseville Baptist Church, and it's quite an interesting change from growing up in the Bible Belt, where almost everyone's heard of Jesus or everyone knows how to pray, where here, I run into people that have never heard of Jesus and people who've never heard anyone pray, and so it's a really, I would say, fertile ground, which is why I wanted to move here to begin with, because Minnesota is the least church state in the country, and so it's just a joy being here.
Speaker 2:So I'm a pastor. We homeschool our kids I was a homeschool kid myself and so that's a joy just to be able to spend time with your children like that and be able to invest in them and their education as well. And I'm an avid bass fisherman so I love to get people out in the boat and take them fishing and share that hobby with them. And plus, you get someone in the boat you can share with them about Jesus, cause it's not like they're going to jump out and swim back to the lake, so you kind of have a captive audience when you get somebody out there. But but yeah, that's. I guess that's a little bit about, about me and and and what we do here in Roseville. Roseville is a suburb of St Paul, so we're real close to the Twin Cities here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1:Gotcha Gotcha. So you've been a pastor 19 years and you've been married 18.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep. So when my wife and I got married, I was actually a youth pastor and so she knew what she was getting into. But yeah, it is quite a change going from that to being a lead pastor of a church, working with everyone in the family and not just the teenagers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're very good at what you do, that's for sure. I wish you were closer. You'd be my pastor, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Thanks bro. That's kind of. I tell you it's all by the grace of God, because I'm still learning all the time. I know one of the things that is just helpful to me is that I don't know everything and I'm continually, always learning and growing. And God, if there's anything good in me that people see in me, that's Jesus, that's God working in me. The parts that aren't so good, that's Jackie.
Speaker 1:I get it man. I get it man. That's good stuff. Hey, tell the audience about your. You told me a story at camp about. I thought it was great. It was a crackhead.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, no yeah, and a prostitute. Yeah, oh, my goodness, yeah, okay. So now everyone's going to hear this story. I'm probably the only Baptist pastor who had both a pimp, a prostitute and a dealer amount of crack in my car all in the same night and granted guys, he didn't know.
Speaker 1:He's going to tell you the story I didn't know, yeah.
Speaker 2:So let's go back to the whole part about me being homeschooled. I was a little bit sheltered, right, and so I didn't know what was going on. But at the time so I was an intern at a church, getting some ministry experience. I was going to college full-time at the university of memphis and I was working at the airport. I worked for fedex, and so I worked nights.
Speaker 2:And so I was coming home about four o'clock in the morning and I stopped at a gas station out just outside of memphis in rural tennessee, and there was this gentleman standing out there by the pumps, and after I pumped my gas, he's like hey, man, I recognize that car. You live over on X street or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, man, I do. And he's like I live out there by you man. He's like, uh, could you give me a ride home? And I felt bad. I'm like it's four o'clock in the morning and I'm like, sure, dude, I'll give you a ride home. No problem, you know. And so I go in and pay for my gas and come back out, and then this Brian, this was like this is 20, this is 20, like probably 22, 23 years ago, right, yeah. And so this is back when you had to go in and pay. Not many people were paying at the pump.
Speaker 2:And so I come back out and there is a woman standing there next to him and he says hey, man, do you mind if my girl catches a ride too? Oh no, no problem, dude, I'm not going to leave your girl here, you know. And so we get in the car and start driving down the road and he's talking to me about, you know, have you ever been with a black woman before? I'm like no man, I haven't, you know. He's like what do you want to? And I'm like no man, I don't, I don't want to. And he's like well, hey, it's only like 50 bucks. And I'm like what? What is going on here, you know? So he's like offering me all these prices and like all, tell me all this stuff that she could do for me. And I'm like dude, this is not right. And then it dawned on me this guy is like a pimp and this is like his prostitute, and he's like trying to sell her to me and so in your own car in my own car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like I don't know what I, what I'm supposed to do with this. And so I I finally pull over on the side of the road and we're like way out in the middle of nowhere and I just made him get out. I felt, you know, like I could not have these people my car. Almost they got out. And then I get about a mile down the road and the holy spirit really was convicting me like you can't just leave those people out there. You know, they need jesus. And so I turned around and went back and picked them back up and they said hey, can you just take us back to the gas station? I'm like, yeah, sure man. So I'm trying to share the gospel with them a bit. We're driving down the road. They didn't want to hear it, you know, but but I tried to share it and get back to the gas station and let them out.
Speaker 2:And at that gas station there's one of those big kind of 55 gallon drum garbage cans and right beside it there's a Ziploc bag with a box of matches in it. And I'm thinking, huh, well, I'll just grab those matches and take them home mom could use them, you know. And so I pick up the bag and it rattles and I'm like, okay, yeah, there's matches in there. So I throw it in the front seat of the car and I drive home. Well, I go to bed and I get up that morning I was like, oh mom, hey, I forgot. So I went back out to the car to get these matches, for I brought them inside and we open them up and it's not matches, it's one of those big match boxes, you know, like the really big kitchen boxes, and it's filled with like brownish gray rocks and I'm like, what is? What is all this? And all of a sudden don's. I think that's crack cocaine.
Speaker 2:And so we have a someone lived down the street. There was a police officer. I took it over to him and he tested it, this little thing, and it turns purple, you know, and everything. And sure enough it was crack. And he tested it, this little thing, and it turns purple, you know, and everything. And sure enough it was crack. And he's like, where'd you get it? And I told him he's like, man, you're, you were driving around with this in the front seat of your car. If you got pulled over, you're going to jail for a dealer amount of crack, you know, and so like. Here you go. This, this totally sheltered Baptist student becoming a pastor guy has a pimp, a prostitute and a dealer about to crack all in his car in the same night.
Speaker 1:Didn't even have a clue.
Speaker 2:Didn't have a clue, just man. Thank you God for that grace to protect me, because I could have been in a lot of trouble. Life could have been very different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, God gave you a little glimpse of the outside world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, all in one night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy man. I was living in Dallas when I was 20 years old. I went out to meet my biological father for the first time and, um, live with him. And uh, come to find out he was living in a halfway home and nothing had changed. So I had to get a job and find a place to live real quick. But I got a job, uh, installing cable boxes. So I was, I was there. I guess this was about a month after I got there, I flown in my girlfriend from Augusta and uh, I was working installing cable boxes and there's a place, there's a place in Dallas called Oak Cliff. That's where Dennis Rodman came from. Apparently. It's like roughest place in Dallas called Oak Cliff. That's where Dennis Rodman came from. Apparently. It's like the roughest place in Dallas.
Speaker 1:And I'm on the way home. I'm on the way home to pick up my girlfriend because we were going to go out to eat. This is after work and I get a phone call. I have a message when I get there because we didn't really have cell phones. I had a message to call him when I got back to my apartment and so I called him and he said this place in Oak Cliff. I said, yeah, I went there and banged on the door and nobody answered. Well, they're on the phone complaining that you didn't install their cable. And I like, well, they didn't answer, so I'm off. He was like, no, you're gonna go do it tonight or else you won't have a job tomorrow. And I was like okay, so it's dark in dallas.
Speaker 1:Back then we didn't have technology so we had to read these things called maps goes big old. We didn't have the technology so we had to read these things called maps Goes big old, big old notebook of maps of the city, right, yep, so I head out towards that way and I'm still lost. So I stop at this hotel and I got her with me by this time and I stop at a hotel and I saw a cop and I was like can you help me to get to this address? And he was like why do you want to go to this address? And I'm like well, I have to install this cable box or I'm going to get fired from my job because they didn't answer the door earlier today when I was working.
Speaker 1:And he was like well, you're not going to go to this address at this time of night since the sun's down. And I was like, what are you talking about? I'm just a dumb Georgia boy, just country. And uh, he's like, well, this is gang territory. And I was like, well, can I get a police escort or something? You know? I was stupid, I didn't know. He was like, no, no, no, it was just crazy man, we would have gotten shot up just driving in there. So the good Lord stopped us and it was on that ride home. I was like dumbfounded and just a kid and I was just like man, god just spared my life, got back to the apartment, grabbed my Bible which I hadn't cracked, probably in 10 years and well, not 10 years, probably five years and opened it up. And it was right at the Lord's Prayer and I was just like, wow, Deliver us from temptation, all kinds of things Protect us from evil.
Speaker 1:And when we don't even know it. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how awesome God is. He is always protecting us and giving us grace and mercy, and we just don't even realize it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's an amazing thing, my friend, so tell us a little bit. You got a podcast too, right?
Speaker 2:I do, yeah, so I'm co-host of the 1717 podcast. It's based on John 1717, where Jesus is praying for us and he says Lord, sanctify them in truth. Your word is truth and we answer questions. People write us questions. Sometimes people at church just give us questions and they can be anything from say what does the Bible say about the Trinity, or how would you explain the Trinity to cultural things like what does the Bible say about abortion, transgenderism, political things? You're like who should I vote for? Or things. Sometimes we get questions that are interesting, like were dragons real? And things like that. We just examine the scriptures and say, hey, hate, what does the Bible say about these things? Yeah, and we'll look at things like church history and different, uh, different sources, but uh, yeah, it's about a half hour podcast, uh, every week, and I think we're. This is episode 210 that we're working on this week.
Speaker 1:Hey guys, it's really good. So if you guys check them out, that's the 1717 podcast. It's good stuff, it really is.
Speaker 2:Thanks. Yeah, we really enjoy it. We learn a lot ourselves as we're researching. My co-host, derek Ambrose, is one of the associate pastors at our church and yeah, we got a couple questions just recently that were just really really good, like one we got from a guy that was a listener who's like hey, is tough love biblical? I want to know what I need to do as far as discipline and that kind of thing and where's the line. So we're looking at that scripturally. So it's a lot of fun to do and hopefully it's really blessing people and we hear back from people really all over the world that are listening to it. And, yeah, thank you for plugging us there, b-rob.
Speaker 1:Not a problem, and tough love is definitely biblical.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 1:Jesus just rode into Jerusalem and made whips, whip the tables yeah. You think he was mad?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, we look at that. That was one example of examples we gave in the podcast. But then also like where is the line between, say, tough love and abuse or a lack of love altogether?
Speaker 1:you know right, I think it's the intentions, yeah, I think it's the intention and and I don't think um, I don't think anger can be part of that intention. That's for sure.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:You have to be resuscitated in purpose. Stern. And yeah, definitely, definitely Like a fatherly love, for sure, mm-hmm, it's definitely biblical. So what? You got plans in the future, man, anything?
Speaker 2:You know nothing, nothing major. I know people always ask you know what's kind of like your five year goal, 10 year goals and that kind of thing. My goal is always to be faithful to the Lord, to what he has called me to right here, right now, and so I'm not really looking more to the future. I'm really just trying to focus on what he has for me right here, right now, and so I'm just trying to be the best husband and father I can be to lead my family to follow Jesus, and I have no desire really to go anywhere other than Roosevelt Baptist Church.
Speaker 2:So I've been here 19 years and unless God makes it clear I'm supposed to go somewhere else. I'd love to stay here and train up the next generation of leaders there. So it's been a joy to do that, and so that's really what I'm focused on. We are a smaller church but God has continued to send us leaders. In the 19 years I've been there, we have ordained about 18 different men as pastors or deacons, and so about one a year, and so that's been quite a joy. Some of them are serving as missionaries and pastors really all over the country and the world and just want to do more of that, as God gives me opportunity.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, man. That really is Because you don't think about little places like Roseville, Minnesota. That sounds like you got a bit of revival going on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, God is doing some awesome things, and a lot of times in spite of our shortcomings and failures, because he's good like that. But it has been really, really neat to see what God has been doing here and just thankful to be a small part of it.
Speaker 1:Right. So how did you get hooked up with Nikita in the main camp? I like to hear these stories as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So that one is another, obviously a God thing. But there's a college here in town. Actually the first president of this Christian college here the college is University of Northwestern St Paul and the first president was Billy Graham. Oh wow, which is again the least church state in the country. But there's some definitely Christian connections here.
Speaker 2:I was reaching out to this college because I had a heart for athletes. I was a missionary in Iowa for a couple of years and I was the chaplain for a college volleyball team in Iowa and so I thought, hey, maybe I could do something similar here in Roseville when I moved here and so I got connected with this college. I worked as the chaplain for the football team. It was just a volunteer position but just working with players. I spent a lot of time hanging out with guys at the training table, injured players because hey, they can't play and they could be discouraged, and so I'm just there to encourage them and pray for them and be there to support them. And the head coach and I developed a really good relationship over the eight years that I served that team and he and Nikita played football together in college oh wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Nikita's from Minnesota. Yeah, Nikita's from Minnesota.
Speaker 2:And so they had a long-term relationship. And so this guy's name's Kirk, and so Kirk and I were good friends. He had moved away to take a coaching position down in Florida but he had recently moved back and so we're visiting, having coffee and everything, and he's like hey, I got a friend who's coming to Minnesota to visit in August. He's like you know, he's looking for maybe a church to preach at. Would you be open to having him preach? And I'm like, well, like well, I need a little bit more about him, kind of what's his theology and doctrine and all that.
Speaker 2:And right so he's like his name's nikita and I'm like that's. I've normally ever heard of one of the nikita you know and uh, he's like, well, that that's him. And I'm like like the russian nightmare, nikita cole. He's like, yeah, I was like how do you? So he tells me how he knows. Long story short, nikita comes to our church and preaches, and nikita, he knows it. Long story short. Nikita comes to our church and preaches and Nikita and I started building a relationship. He's been back to our church again. He's coming again this coming August. It'll be the third time he's been at our church, which is amazing. But Nikita just invited me. He's like, hey, man, you need to come to man camp Check it out.
Speaker 2:Kirk told me about it as well. Like you got to go check it out, and so eventually the Lord worked it out where I had time to be able to go. I was. I was actually going to go in October and we had some things happen our church, some staff transitions and I couldn't go, and so God worked it out where I went in April. And, man, how awesome was that, because I got to meet you and so many other awesome brothers in Christ that wouldn't have been there in October, right, so God's timing is perfect, but but that's how I heard about it, that's how I got involved and that's why I went is because of the relationship connection there that God had started, probably about 12 years earlier with Kirk as a chaplain for the football team.
Speaker 1:Right, that's amazing. The Amman campus. When I first got there I ain't going to lie I was like I would have I got in some myself up. I was like what have I got myself into? The physical aspect of it alone was, uh, was definitely uh, part, part wrenching and trying.
Speaker 2:It was, it was all good, but I will admit to you, I'm with you there, b-rob. I got there and I'm like I don't know about this. It's like I know Nikita, but all these other dudes I don't know about them. I would say, out of all the people that were there the campers and the staffers I'm like I don't know, like I'm not sure how much I trust these guys. And you know what I'm saying. It's like I'm like thinking through, like okay, what about this guy, what about that guy? I don't know. And and you know we're doing just human things.
Speaker 2:We're judging and criticizing and all this stuff. We're judging and criticizing and all this stuff, but then after like just just, I would say 24 hours in, I'm like God's already given me friends for life here. This is amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to tell this story and I didn't tell. I told it to my battle buddy, but I didn't really tell it to. I might've told you, I don't. I don't remember, but you remember the second day that um is the first 24 to 48 hours it rained like oh dude. And then the second morning they were like and I'm sitting here just now getting my book bag aired out from the night before the walk to the to the uh bunk house, yep and um, and I had bought a brand new Bible, spent like a hundred bucks on it, and I was like, please, I do not want to get this wet, I do not want to get this wet. And I didn't really. I packed like I was going to a country club or a resort. I didn't pack like I was going camping.
Speaker 2:No, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'd be sweatpants, shorts, tennis shoes. I mean I was, yeah, I had never been on a camping retreat. I've been on many retreats but never a camping one and um, I was, uh, after breakfast I was just sitting there dreading, I'm like I got to go out in the woods and it's raining and I didn't really prepare for this. So I asked one of the the guys that was working there the staff was. I was like can I use the restroom before, before we go out? And he was like, yeah, there's some, I'm gonna clean these, but there's some down behind the building so it's raining.
Speaker 1:I got my umbrella and I walked down there behind the building and one of the little guys I forgot his name, but, um, I'd never seen him before, but apparently he was a worker and um, he was standing back there smoking a cigarette by the lady's bathroom and he said the Lord told me to meet you down here. And I was like, okay, he's like, I've been waiting on you. He said I can feel that you, you're not comfortable. He said why don't you go sit your chair in that bathroom right there? It'll be nice and warm and it'll be, it'll be dry and you'll be able to read the Bible, nice, right there, and I did.
Speaker 1:I went in there and read part of the book and the Bible, started crying a couple of times and that whole thing of God knowing where I was at at that place mentally, and then saying, just go in there, it'll be okay. And I even questioned it. I was like they told me I had to be within a hundred yards of the building and he was like man, don't worry about them, just be comfortable. God wants you to be comfortable and so we can talk to you.
Speaker 1:And I was just like, wow, so that was my turning point and I didn't tell that story to anybody, but I've had things like that happen all throughout my life and where God just takes care of me and, like you know, I'm putting you someplace. But I'm going to help you with this because you don't seem to trust what I'm doing for you. So does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yes, it does, and you didn't tell me that story there and this is the first I'm hearing it. But I know who told you that, because he came by. I'm not going to out him, but he came by and he said I heard him say something to you Like. So do you like that spot? So I know, I know who it was.
Speaker 2:And man, that is awesome how God worked that out. I'm going to tell you right now too, talking about God working it out, god provided for me through you at man Camp, because I get there and I flew from Minnesota. So I had to pack light and they said bring a raincoat and everything. And I brought one, but mine was so old that it was soaking through because it was kind of like one of those breathable ones. And you had that emergency poncho that you brought. Oh, yeah, yeah, dude, you gave me that thing. Oh, my goodness, I can't tell you how many times I praised God for that poncho those two days.
Speaker 2:Just thanking God so much. Like Lord, thank you for this poncho. So I may not have expressed it to you enough at man camp, but I'm gonna tell you right now. Brother b rob, you give me that poncho. Like blessed me beyond measure. Like you, you have no idea how much that meant to me that's awesome, man, it's.
Speaker 1:it's. It's amazing, when you strip all the uh, the worldly things away, how you rejoice in the small blessings that you don't see on a daily basis, daily basis because of the worldly things and the stuff that attaches to you. It's kind of wild, man, it really is.
Speaker 2:I think it goes back to the phone. Not having the phone, not having those distractions, you can see those blessings more clearly Right.
Speaker 1:Right that $1.99 poncho.
Speaker 2:That $1.99 poncho is a huge blessing. It's just one of those things where you don't realize all these small little things that God does for us because he loves us and cares for us. Something that may be insignificant in cost, like your actual dollar value, could be a huge, huge blessing in your life that God provides for you. You just don't even recognize it or even thank God for it. Often, you know, often we don't. We don't do that.
Speaker 1:And the funny thing about that is that that little poncho came from one of my little hippie book bags from up in my band room. It was probably from like a Grateful Dead show like 15, 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:Well, I was grateful and alive and thankful for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was pretty amazing, man, that was pretty amazing. Well, we're not going to keep you too long today. I think we've been on the phone for about a half hour. But, man, it's always good to talk to you, man, and I'm glad to hear you're doing good and glad to hear your sermons, man. They're really really good. Like I told you the other day, I was like you said, man, that's really good coming from you. I appreciate that and I was like well, you got to remember, I didn't know you as the preacher. You had to take that hat off. So I got to know you as a person and a human being. So there's no judgment from a preacher standpoint, because that's the first thing I think a lot of people do when they walk in the doors you can feel yourself being judged as the preacher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm really glad we did that at camp, where you didn't talk about you, took your hats off, you didn't really talk about what you did, you just treat each other as brothers and that really helped a ton. And, man, it's just been good talking with you, b-rob, I love your music. Man, you have a talent that God has really given you there and, lord willing, one day we'll have you up here in Minnesota to do a concert or something at our church or lead worship or something like that. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1:That sounds good, man. Maybe we could time it. Where I come and Nikita preaches we never know, man, nikita's going to be here. He's going to be preaching here August 24th and my daughter actually lives up in Michigan, so that's not far off. It's not far off. How far is Minnesota from Michigan?
Speaker 2:definitely not as far as Minnesota is from Georgia, for real Not as far as Minnesota is from Georgia.
Speaker 1:I can tell you that, for real, for real, oh man. Well, man, you got any motivational things for this Motivational Monday, any verses or anything off the top of your head?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I would say the big thing that really I've been thinking through, just I would say, yesterday and today, because the theme yesterday was resurrection Right, right, it's Easter Sunday.
Speaker 2:We all need that new life in every area of our lives, and if we just get old and start to have things die out, we don't get anything fresh there, things will fade away, and so it's so important to spend time with the Lord every single day in prayer and His Word, even if it's just a few minutes, to get a fresh boost of life from Him that can energize your day and change things, so that you're looking for Him to work or you're surrendered to Him in some way, or finding deliverance from some sin or temptation.
Speaker 2:And so that's really something I've been really thinking about just the last few days is, lord, where in my life do I need to be looking for you to invigorate and strengthen me and energize me so that your life is being poured out? So I would just encourage anyone listening to this get off the podcast, or you listen to it, and spend just a few minutes in prayer. Pick up a Bible, read, read a proverb of the day, like today's proverbs. 21 to 21st day of the month. Just read, read a little bit of that and see what God would say to you. And then take that, take a verse out of there and use it in your life this day to live for him.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Use it in your life this day to live for him, absolutely, absolutely. Well, jackie, you want to end this with prayer today?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It'd be my honor. That'll work. That'll work. Let's pray, gracious Heavenly Father. God, I thank you so much for your love, your mercy and your grace. You are good to us and we take that for granted all so often. So, father, help us to not take it for granted, but to be mindful of your presence in our lives. I thank you so much for this conversation I've been able to have with b-rob today. God, I thank you for all the listeners that are tuning in, and we ask blessings upon all of them. Lord, help us to make this day about you. This is the day that you have made lord, so help us rejoice and be glad in it. Help us to make this day about you. This is the day that you have made Lord, so help us rejoice and be glad in it. Help us find our motivation in you. Help us find our motivation in your word and then use us, father, as an encouragement to others. This day, it's in Christ's name we pray. All these things, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, hallelujah. Well, guys, I'm going to leave you with this. We got Psalm 16, verse 9 and 10. And that's after yesterday. Psalm 16 says therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices. My body also will rest secure because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay. So that's an amazing verse after a maiden Psalm, after yesterday's resurrection day, and guys want to thank pastor Jackie Hill for coming on the podcast today and we pray nothing but blessings over him and his ministry and his family. And that's in Jesus name, guys, guys, I love you, guys, we'll see you on the next one. Thank you, jackie, so much for this time, for this conversation and for this brotherhood, and I will be getting with you very, very soon, my friend.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Thank you so much too, and you're very welcome. All right, brother Love you, love you too.
Speaker 1:All right, bye.