Hypnosis IS NOT MIND CONTROL: Brad Matchett is a pro Comedy-Hypnotist & he shares what goes on behind the curtain.

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My wifey Malyri (CheapChicFinds) went "under Hypnosis" at a county fair. She broke it down for me, as it isn’t magic—and it’s Definitely NOT Mind Control.

In this episode, host Seth Ryan sits down with Brad Matchett, a nationally known fair circuit entertainer, corporate performer, and family-friendly stage hypnotist, to pull back the curtain on one of the most misunderstood professions.

From his early days in accounting and running restaurants to becoming a headliner at state fairs across the country, Brad shares:

• The biggest misconceptions about hypnosis (no, you can’t get “stuck” under)
• Why stage hypnosis is nothing like Hollywood’s “mind control” trope
• How he turned a free show into a Full-Time Career, & shares what he'd teach his own son (and did) on how to find your niche' and make it a Career!
• The safety, ethics, and family-first approach behind every performance
• The role hypnosis can play in self-help, habit change, and even helping investigators unlock memories
• Lessons he’s passing down to his son about entrepreneurship and chasing what you love

You’ll also hear behind-the-scenes stories from the Pasco County Fair (including how Seth’s wife ended up on stage), the business of entertainment, and what really happens when someone goes “under.”

Whether you’re curious about hypnosis, fascinated by life on the fair circuit, or just love a good story about following your passion, this conversation will open your eyes.

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Transcript

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Brad, welcome to the podcast. I'm super excited. Absolutely. I'm super excited about having you on here. And uh obviously Malyri is, is waiting with anticipation. She's got Archer downstairs. And I told her, I was like, I'll, I'll show you the video. Cause she still hasn't watched the video. I edited it, but I really didn't edit anything out. I just added in some, some pictures, you know, who she is and Katie in the video at the very beginning for people that aren't familiar, of course. And then just kind of. watch you and uh the magic that you do there. Magic, uh it's not magic. And so that's gonna be one of the misconceptions. And so some of the things that I want to go over with you on this podcast are the misconceptions, right? That's the main thing. A lot of feedback that Malyri received, and I'm sure that you get on a daily basis, especially with your profession, is the misconceptions, right? The Manchurian candidate ones, the... You know, am I into actually in control? How can you make people cluck like a chicken? think that's the default that everybody talks about. Um, or, know, make somebody do something that's silly that maybe they don't necessarily wouldn't even be susceptible to do if it weren't under hypnosis. Like none of their buddies could get them to do something, but they, do something under hypnosis. And so people go, well that, that must be that they're mind controlled. So just to break through some of those, but also to learn a little bit about you and how you got into this as a profession, kind of little bit more about that and what advice you would have for other people. Maybe young boys and girls, uh what you would actually tell your son or daughter who might want to follow in your footsteps. And maybe if you could go back in time and do it all over again, how you would kind of set yourself up for success if that were the path that you were going to go. just to break the ice, if you want to just kind of let everybody know. a little bit about you and how long you've been doing this. uh Brad Matchett, uh I have been doing hypnosis probably about 12 years now. I've also done an educational agricultural magic show for state and county fairs. I've been doing that for like 23 years, so I'm heavily known in the fair market. Even from just doing that, now it's more for the hypnosis show. So, and I went to college, I have accounting and marketing degree, passed half the CPA exam, so that's why I can make money being an entertainer. I know how to control that end of it. Absolutely. is funny is my son actually does the hypnosis and our magic show too. And I made him go to college and get a business degree. So he understood what to do with expenses of trying to run a business because you're just running a, a literally show business. Yeah. I didn't put that together. I remember you saying your son, right, on stage, but I just didn't know for sure if you're... Because some people... I grew up in Oklahoma. There, you call people darling and son all the time, and they're not necessarily your kin that you're talking to. anyways, but very cool. So I wanted to give you a little bit of an intro. I just wanted you to... kind of set everybody's expectation right there with just a little bit about you. What I found just by doing my research online and you know, not only on your website itself, but also just kind of scouring the web a little bit. So you do nationwide fair uh circuit and you're a headliner. Brad runs a family friendly Vegas style hypnosis show that become a staple at state county fairs across the US from South Florida, of course, we ran into you here at Pasco County State Fair, as well as North Carolina, obviously a big one for you. And then you also do corporate and theme theme park engagements, ones by major brands such as uh Residence Inn by Marriott, Courtyard by Marriott, Fairfield, some of those big names within that industry. Uh, and all of your stuff is 100 % volunteer powered, no plants. And that's, that's a big one that, that you emphasize. And I think that's very important to put out there at the very beginning, uh, because again, Malyri and I had not met you. didn't know you, um, nothing there was planned. Mal, I had no idea Malyri was going to volunteer to do that that night. I don't think Malyri had any idea that she was going to volunteer that night either. Uh, and then she dragged Katie up with her. Katie was a little bit hesitant to go up there, but she she got her to go up But I think just like snake oil salesman back in the day uh and the faith healers who would have plants or stooges To be in the audience and then they would call on them and they would come up and do something ridiculous You know, there's obviously a reason for them to do that and an incentive to do that and to make money But the fact that you don't do that is is the whole key and again, why I really wanted to have you on to just kind of get the true story of how this really works. But you also, and I noticed this as you were talking, uh which really caught my attention was the self-help audio programs and things that you do beyond the live shows, uh doing self-help videos and CDs on topics like weight loss, stress-free studying, time management, Helping you quit smoking healthy eating power naps motivation and many other things so from that I assume there's accreditation for Hypnosis do you have accreditation for that or is this something that you've kind of just built on your own? Uh, got mine through HMI, it's.org. It's Hypnosis Motivation Institute and you can go do a whole series of classes on that and that type of stuff. So that's what I did just to have a better background. Cause I literally learned it for the entertainment part of it. And basically I had another hypnotist teach me how to do it. He's one of my best friends and we were at the same fair and I was doing my ag magic show. He was doing the hypno show and he got a big contract to go on one big cruise ships and says, I'm not renewing my contract and we're like, you know, trying to figure out who we want to put on the stage. And he goes, I should just teach you, you have the stage ability, which is the hardest part of it. So, the, and back to your point of here's my easiest way to tell you that people aren't faking it. I can do all that stuff at the beginning. Nobody goes under. Everybody walks off stage. I get the exact same paycheck. So my paycheck is not involved on anything of if I do the show or one, 10, 100 or zero. Good news is I still get paid. So there is no reason to get there and fake it. yeah. That's awesome. as far as, you know, whenever you're going to these state fairs, are you there like every single night? How does that work when you're doing those contracts? Yeah, we do the whole session of the fair. And usually most of our fairs do a combination of like a nag magic show in the day and one hypnosis show at night. At Pasco, we just had one hypnosis show at night. South Florida fair, because it's so big, we do do three hypnosis shows every day. And that's a 17 day fair. Yeah. That's what I was curious because I was like, man, that is that night that Mallor is up there on stage. You may know that by the way, the way everyone is dressed, but it was it was kind of freezing that night. The wind was really whipping. It was it was so while they're up there, whenever you had them uh act like it was warm, that's that that was the meaning there. It was freezing that night. And so when people are all like acting like they're hot and they're starting to, you know. uh, start to shed their coat. It was freezing. I was like, man. And in hypnosis, you actually get colder because you're in REM sleep. like whenever you're in your bed and a lot of times in the morning, you're tucked underneath the covers, even though it's like 70 degrees or 72 in your room, you're still cold from just your body coming out and your heart beating fast while you're in REM sleep, your whole body cools off. So under hypnosis, you actually get even usually about 10 degrees colder than what we are. Wow. Okay. Gotcha. That's interesting. I had one more thing about your shows that I really thought was fascinating and super important, which is safety first, family safe ethos. You know, that you market your act as sensory inclusive. and ADA compliant at state fairs like South Florida's emphasizing that for everyone from skeptics to kids can jump in safely and that every, uh every suggestion is reversible and tailored to keep volunteers comfortable. And I think that's really, really big because just having that sense of, you know, of comfort and, you know, letting your kid Like now that I've been up on stage, now that Malyri's been up stage and we've actually felt it, seen it, know people who've done it and successful like Malyri, I wouldn't have any hesitation with worrying about Archer when he gets older wanting to go do that. And I think that, you know, we'll definitely do that and that will be a lot of fun, especially if he's able to go under. uh I think that's something that, like you don't know what you don't know. And there's a lot of those... those things where with you, you're talking to the public and anybody could have any condition. And that's something that as a police officer, I didn't have any idea. Nobody had ever trained me on this. I was just like driving behind the fair for our town or the, um, we had a parade, a parade for our town. And so I'm just driving behind with my police car with the lights on, make sure nobody runs into my car. And there's kids there from the school that are cheering and everything. don't know. anything about what I'm supposed to do. I'm just blocking traffic. That's it. And I'm just sitting there blocking traffic and I don't have a smartphone back then. So I'm just texting with people and hanging out and waiting. And a special needs kid, I don't know that at the time, but he walks up and he's standing there and he keeps staring at my car. And I don't think anything of it other than, know, he's special needs and there's like a group of them, but the teacher's not paying attention to him and he keeps staring and keeps staring. And I'm just like, I wonder what he's doing. And then he just falls down and he starts going into a seizure. I had no idea that strobing lights could put people into a seizure. Nobody had ever taught me that in the police academy. Nobody had ever taught me that, anything like that before. And so for me, I had to learn the lesson the hard way. And I say, I learned it the hard, that kid learned it the hard way because he fell on the ground and started going into convulsions and all because I didn't understand. If I would have saw him staring at my lights, I would have killed my lights real quick. That would, you know, and I could have got out and been like, hey teacher, take care of this kid. So for you, I think that that's very important because you have so many people with so many different uh conditions and they come from all different walks of life. And I'm sure that you've had to deal with things like that. Do you have any examples of any times where anything has come up or you've ever had to like tailor something for? a specific person because of their need. Yeah, my list whenever they get up there of, does anybody have this condition, that condition, it all gets bigger and bigger because something has happened. uh And like now it's seizures. So I actually had a lady the year before was talking to me. She came, saw the show, loved the show, wanted to know if hypnosis would help her with her seizures. I said, I don't know. We can try it and find out. Never heard anything from her again. Back at that same fair, doing the shows. I don't realize it's the same lady who wants to come up and try. So I have her come up. She goes under nice and deep. And I start the squeaking thing where it sounds like the person usually pinching your butt when they do the squeaker thing. Well, that was one of the things that was sent her into seizures. So she went through full grand mal seizure in the middle of the stage, in the middle of the show. Husband's on the front row, comes up and goes, hey, no, she does this. We talked to you last year. Now it's all making sense. While there's a crowd of 200 people watching us take care of her on stage. Now EMS is there, they're like, he goes, I'll just carry her to the side. I'll take her about 30 minutes. Then she'll come up out of it. So we're good. Just have a response. Is it, let me try to make sure she's up out of hypnosis. So I just said five, four, three, two, one. You'll be wide awake. Five, four, three, two, wide awake. She came up and out of the seizure. So right now they're trying to set me up with her doctor to see if we can implant something to help her come out of her seizures faster. So that's a perfect segue. So you just mentioned something about implanting and really going into what you do self-help side. If you can just kind of start like kind of getting us our brain wrapping around the difference between this isn't dangerous because you can't just put somebody under and they're just this Manchurian candidate that you can mind control. At the same time, you can put things into their... what would it be subconscious that allows them to benefit from things. And of course that's where, right, dangers come in that people are again scared of because of course there are evil people out there who do learn these and they do take advantage of people on a rare occasion. And then those court cases get blown up and everybody knows about it. And there's, I guess there's three that are going on right now where people put somebody in a clinical side under hypnosis and then. they didn't feel good about what happened, whatever it was, and those things are becoming, coming to light and people are talking about them, which again, unfortunately goes to almost give you guys a black eye when you're completely different thing that you're trying to do these comedy shows and, you know, and trying to help people. Right, yeah. easiest part is it's very hard to make somebody do something against their moral will. So if you're a preacher, I cannot make you get up there and cuss. You just won't do it. Now if you, like you went to a hypnotherapy person where they have you in sessions by yourself, they can work on it probably a little bit more than what I could. But even they're not, it's gonna be a lot to get them, they're gonna realize that it's a person who doesn't honor theirself, that type of stuff, somebody that they could take more advantage of. Just like people who get people in the parking lot to give them money and stuff like that. They start hitting on your, I'm poor, help me, help me. It's the same thing like that. So it can go either way. And luckily enough, I went to a private Christian high school, to a private Christian college. uh We still go to church every Sunday. I'm trying to use mine as, like you said, everything is good and bad. I try to use all mine as good and try to help people and we have a good time. Then you can eat too much and be misrepresenting your body, your temple. And to me, that's still a sin. it depends on how far, if you use it for good or evil is basically what it is. Yeah. And, and, I like that you, do you point out, you know, that, that it is capable of being used right on the bad side. So we're not just saying blanket statement. No, you know, if it, if it goes against you and it's a great example. So I don't curse. haven't cursed. No one's ever heard me curse. I did it once when I was eight and then I felt super guilty about it and never did it again. So Marine Corps police officer, contractor, ranger, special ops. never said a curse word. I say 'Freakin' all the time and I say other things that are crude but the bad, right? These are curse words. The ones that you hear on TV that are curse words and they give you a PG-13 or a rated Arrr.. Arrr That's what I was raised with. Those are the curse words. So I've just never said them because they're not in my vocabulary. So that's a great example because I was wondering that if you're able to, for instance, make somebody cluck like a chicken. Okay. Everybody has made a clucking chicken noise at some point. So it's pretty easy to figure out just like having a girl sing Taylor Swift is pretty much across the board. Every girl is saying Taylor Swift songs. But as far as getting somebody to do something out of character, and I read up as I was getting prepared for this podcast, there was a guy who supposedly came out and he punched the guy in, he punched the the hypnosis uh guy in the face because he didn't appreciate being uh made the fool and whatever that whatever that means. And again, this is a story, right? So you don't have both sides of it or what was going on. Have you ever had anybody come out and be aggressive toward you or be upset about them having done something, you know, a little uh embarrassing in their eyes? Not them, I've had two husbands, one started yelling in the middle of show. It's like, cause my first three are always the same, and it always opens with the big bed. it just puts them more relaxed. I could see who's, what level sounds, no, scale one to 10, where everybody's at. And you're in a big bed, stretching arms out, stretching your legs out. If the person's next, if there's something next to you, that's your favorite teddy bear, you reach up over and hug it. This guy went ballistic. right in the middle, mean, screaming and yelling. I'm like, sir, sit down, calm down. And after doing it for a couple of years, for me, it's not worth keeping that person up there, because that person is just going to continue ruining the show. So I just wake them up and send them back down. And later on, both of those guys came back and luckily enough, apologize, but it's because they had had sexual harassment things before that triggered that inside them. He goes, I just got triggered by it. We stood in the back, end up watching, show it's funny. That just triggered me and thank you for bringing her down. And I think both times the person asked if they could go back up and do it again and finish the show. I was like, as long as that person's okay with it and they don't screw up the show again, I don't mind you trying it. Yeah. Not, the actual person going under him. That's interesting. Cause I would have assumed again, you were talking about the public and there's a whole lot of different people out there and. of the time, if they're very embarrassed by it, they will walk away. They're like, that was an embarrassing But they're still having fun with They're still smiling about it whenever they're saying it. They're not screaming and yelling. Because once again, if you're not the person who's going to cuss, you're not the person who's going to dance, you're more likely not going to do it. So that's OK. And I actually like it whenever it happens in the show. It might happen one every 10 times of where somebody won't get up and sing. Dolly Parton. They're just like, no, I'm not gonna do it. I'm like, okay, perfect. I drop them right back down. They go down nice where they're supposed to be and I get a chance to explain this is why this is not happening. So it actually makes it more educational and I think people get to enjoy a little bit of it. I think that goes back to authenticity and not, you know, no stooges. You're not, nobody isn't jumping up and doing this wild crazy doing back flips and all this stuff. you're like, maybe this isn't real. do backflips from time to time and it scares the living crap out of me. I bet. uh Well, very cool. And so one of the other questions that I had, I'd done a little bit of research. I want you to correct me if I'm wrong on this. Hypnosis, because I was just curious, how far back does this go? Hypnosis is older than we think. The practice dates back thousands of years. Actually, ancient Egyptians and Greeks used trance-like techniques for healing. and the Egyptians actually had sleep temples for curing ailments through suggestion. You've heard that before, is that true or? I agree with everything I've seen on it. And usually whenever somebody comes up and says, I'm doing evil against the Bible and stuff, I take it back to it's also a form of meditation. So once you get to that level where you can start doing those types of things, it's actually very helpful. Jesus meditated, apostles did. Everybody in the Bible is pretty much meditated and they talk about it. So, you know, once again, I did go to Christian school since the seventh grade. Right, right. usually give them an out. I'm like, if you really want to argue this to the point, here's my background before you want to continue this. And I've never had anybody continue it. So they're like, oh, okay. Oh, so you know what you're talking about. I'm like, yep, I understand it all. And that's a great segue to specifically that one point, which is a lot uh of the people who had comments that were on the negative side about hearing about Malyri going under was that, that from a biblical perspective, we know that *SAUL* goes and talks to the woman and she's supposed to do a seance and bring up Samuel to talk to Saul. And she's blown away when *SAMUEL* actually appears. And so there's some things like that that people always remember and go back to no palm reading, no trying to do seances or, uh, you know, uh, reading magical, balls and all these types of things. And then I think out of default, they just lump in. I don't know what that is. That seems like that must be bad. I'll just lump hypnosis in with that. That's you giving over your will to someone else and they're making you do something, you know, and almost. And the way I've heard it kind of explained as I was growing up in a very strict Christian upbringing in Oklahoma, was, well, you wouldn't want somebody to make you completely drunk and then you're blackout drunk and you don't remember what you do. That would be terrible. Only this person gets to tell you what to do while you're blackout drunk. That's, that's definitely not from God. And again, this person's never been to a show, never seen, never done any research. They just lump it in and just assume that that's what it must be because, you know, "seems like it" to them. Right, yeah, it's, I mean, same thing with the sorcery in the Bible, of a guy doing magic and though he was doing it to steal from people and do the wrong thing, that's a sin. I'd do a kid's educational agricultural magic show, and it can't lump them together. They're two completely different things. Yeah. what, did make you want to stick with this path? You, sounds like out of necessity, you'd already been helping your friend and then he's going to go to cruises. needs somebody to kind of take over this. He might as well teach you. And it is the showmanship that you already have the ability to talk to crowds, to not be nervous, to put on a show. Um, but. What made you go, this is what I want to do for a career path and just kind of stick with it through, you know, some of the hard times. Well, I already had the career path of being an entertainer with The Magic Show for twice as long. It's just once I started doing it for my other fairs, because the fair that we were doing it for, we had a whole year to practice. So every fair I went to, was like, hey, I'm going to do you a free hypnosis show because I want to practice. And as I did them all, they all next year said, can we just do the same thing? Because we love that. so that when it was... just me falling into a lucky bucket, that's all it was. I was like, everybody loves it, it works good. And to be honest, before, I don't like watching a lot of hypnosis shows, because my buddy was trained with three other guys from Canada, and they all sort of do their show the same way, which is very, very fast pace. Which is my, number one thing, people say I talk really fast. And I do, because it makes for a better show. Because if I can spend 17 minutes and we start doing funny bits, Instead of doing 30 minutes and then only doing like 15 minutes of funny stuff, you just get more entertainment. Yeah, for sure. mean, what you're laughing at is the crazy things they're doing, not necessarily you, know, what you're saying necessarily initially. how did you even get into the comedy show? what made you want to take that career path? in college, I was a partner with a guy in a bicycle shop and one of our silent partners always wanted to open a magic store. So we built him a little, like a little eight by 10 section and they were both firefighters. So I'd have to run both shops sometimes and just got interested in magic, close up magic, then did kids birthday parties, then started doing libraries on their summer reading programs. Somebody saw me in front of restaurant and said, I have an idea at the Virginia State Fair. You think you can do this? And we ended up turning it into a magic show manager of the state fair came by and said, you have a gold mine. Here's what you need to do. for some reason, being on stage, it's great. As soon as I come off, I'd rather stand in the corner by myself, my hands in my pocket and just sit back and watch everybody. So and that's something that's super important. I wish people really knew about Malyri my wife has to spend so much time by herself Just recharging her batteries uh You know not necessarily on a daily basis and not like I never see her It's just that she she comes out. She's who you saw on stage when we got back home She is zonked. She she's sleeping hard. She's She's going right into deep sleep. it exhausts her to be herself out that much, to put out that much energy. the ironic thing is I had her take some, some personality uh inventories and she is an extrovert. Now I'm an extreme extrovert. I actually gain energy by talking with people. So if I go to a party, if I go to hang out with people and I'm sp- there with them talking for six hours straight and I don't have a voice, I'm going to be up till 3 a.m. because I have so much energy built up in me and all the conversations I just had that I'm going to be playing in my head Malyri is the opposite. That putting herself out there and talking with people drains her battery and then once she gets to a certain point, ah That's when she's you know ready to go and then she's just like Hit hit the bed and she's asleep. I think that that's one of the things that everybody including me always confused the people on stage must be extreme extroverts and that they must just love this and gain energy by being on a stage and in front of the spotlight and in Reality a lot of the times. I mean a lot of people are the exact opposite But my wife says that she is married to two completely different people. On stage and off stage. one of the one of the things I did want to ask you, what is the lowest point that you've had in owning your own business, doing these shows? And then what helped you keep going? What made you decide to not just leave and just go get a regular job at that point? Well, we were living in Virginia and I had went, my son Grayson was like probably four or five at the time. And my first show of the summer season was up in Wisconsin. had went from Virginia up there, did the show and was coming back. And we were at a Flying J and I had to call a buddy to get cash wired to me so we could get gas. Cause I couldn't get the $6,000 check in my hand. cashed or process soon enough so we could actually get gas at the Flying J to make it all the way back home to continuing the tour for the season. So that's a lot of things. A lot of entertainers, you're completely booked from like July to October, but then you got six or seven more months. You have to figure out how to make money, save money, and that type of stuff until you start booking more shows. So there is plenty of rocky times of credit cards full. We need a show. Yeah, yeah, and I get it. Good. felt comfortable making it into a business for my family. And since I started, luckily enough, my wife always stayed home with our kids. So she never had another job. So it was all on entertaining. did it take much persuasion to get your son involved or he just naturally wanted to participate? wanted to, but he had just been around it so much. So at like eight years old, we have a buddy who does an illusion show and he saw him do a straight jacket escape. So at nine years old, he had a straight jacket. He would go to school and do it for the talent show. We did uh the Homestead Resort in Hot Springs, Virginia for their Christmas and stuff like that. He would come on and he would do his straight jacket routine of getting locked up and then escaping from it. Then he would start helping me do other shows and stuff like that. So he went to JMU, James Madison University. And every summer, as soon as school was done, he had a tour that he had to do doing the magic shows at state and county fairs from basically the 1st of June until the end of August, when he went back to school. And he basically came out of JMU debt free by performing shows during the summer and he graduated and paid everything off. started his own business. That is impressive. That really is. Especially nowadays, you know, when kids even think about whatever school that they're gonna need to go to, whether it is a trade school or anything else, you know, coming out of that without debt is so important. And that's something I'm definitely gonna instill in my children. Again, obviously you did a good job there instilling that in your son because, man, I've seen so many people, and I mean the overwhelming majority of humans I've met that... are, you know, that I come into contact with because I've got a master's degree and, you know, I around people who have bachelor's degrees on the regular basis and all the debt that they incurred. Now I did in my time in the military and I did every, every way that I could possibly put more money in to get more money out on the back end of that. And I used my entire GI bill and everything to complete my master's and I was only out of pocket, you know, a few thousand dollars. And that made all the difference when I'm trying to, you know, start little businesses or wanting to do a podcast, all the things that you want to try to do. Man, if you if you've got a big, huge, you know, 40, 80,000, hundred thousand dollar uh debt over your head that the government will never not forgive, ah you know, and there's still there's still people talking about that right now, how the government forgave them. But then now is going to try to unforgive them their debt. Yeah, there's a whole lot of strings attached to any time the government's gonna do something nice for you. doing it the smart way where you're finding a way to pay that off while you're doing it. I worked full time the whole time that I went through college as well. And so that made all the difference to me. uh So going back to the question that I had there, uh and thank you for those answers. Obviously your son has followed in your footsteps. But let's say that, for instance, your son was maybe 12, 13 years old, when they're really starting to get. interested in doing something specific, what would you have them do to really set themselves up for success other than, you know, business degree to understand the business side of it. Find something you like to do and make it your own business. My dad's whole side of the family, everybody owns their own business or had owned their own business. So you're either working for someone making them money or people are working for you making you money. It's much better if you can set your own vacation times and stuff like that. Which is funny because I say that and then from, leave May, I think we're leaving May 24th. We get done November 17th and I believe we have two weekends off. So I get no vacations, no sick days because I'm the boss. But being the boss is king. So that would be my thing. Find something you like, I care if it's video games. You can make a fortune on video games. Find something, find a way to make it a business. And I think that's something that kids hear. I know I did because I heard the same, that same advice from people, you know, now it's on YouTube, on every motivational video. But, you know, it's played so often and you hear it so often, you go, well, that must not be true because, know, everybody says that, but nobody actually tells you how to make money doing that. You love video games. Okay. So what, so how do I make money doing it? But that's the point is. finding that and then doing research to figure out how people are making money and then spending time creatively like you did that's the one thing that I always want to instill in Archer is that it's finding something that you love to do, but you have to find something that other people want to see. So if you just sit in your room and just play video games by yourself, that's not ever gonna make you any money. It's figuring out what other people are doing and then being creative and putting your spin on it, like using your base, which you already had in comedy and then adding that to hypnosis And I think that's the hardest part. I'm relaunching my podcast because I did what everybody says to do. You go find a niche where there's very few people in it and you can talk intelligently about that thing. And what I found out was, although I'm passionate about, and I really want the ideas and the inventions that I was able to share with people uh that are able to help. save lives in school shooting scenarios and to better defend schools from that even happening to begin with. What I found is then you get put in this little hole and they go, that's you. You're the "school shooter guy." And I was like, no, no, no, no, that doesn't work for me. I have so many topics that I want to talk about. I've lived so many different life experiences. I was a police officer. I was in a prison guard. a federal prison guard. lived on oil rigs for years. I was a private contractor in Baghdad. I was there when it got attacked. I've lived, I was on the Jessica Lynch raid. I was in special ops. I was in the Marines before that. I've lived 15 different lives and I've lived all that being a Christian, never cursing, never drinking alcohol in my life, doing the things that my parents instilled in me. And I just kept going. That's it. I didn't do anything magical. I just kept going. But now I'm finding that just being able to connect with the people that I'm in connection with and trying to bring them, it's not me. And that's what I finally figured out. I don't need to have this amazing presence myself. I just need to share my connections with people and let those people talk like running into you. Like as soon as I ran into you and I talked with you. I already, the wheels were in my head, but I wasn't sure how I was going to pitch this to you, right? it's being personal. You've to put yourself out there and you could have said, no, you could have been busy. That happens. Well, then move on to the next thing. And if you're busy doing stuff and just being engaged, you're going to, you're going to come into contact. lot of people say, you know, you're going to bounce off of different things. That's it. You, if you're actually out active and you're not just hiding in your house, playing video games or doing something that doesn't involve meeting other people. That's got to be one of the most underrated things that we need to teach the upcoming generation who was raised in front of screens, who are just staring at screens all day every day and not interacting with each other. There's gonna be businesses, you wouldn't have even been in a position for a guy to go, hey, how about you take over this business for me? had you not already been working and putting yourself out there and doing your own thing and then, by the way, because you're doing this, you're running into other people that are doing something similar and that's the gold mine that ended up sparking this career for you and it's generational. I think that's the, if anybody takes one thing away from this entire conversation, the fact that you are continuing a generational thing with your family of everybody owning their own business. some person had to start that. Maybe everybody in the entire family just all at once started their own businesses. But most likely there was a time in your family tree where they worked for other people and somebody decided to break the mold and start working for themselves because they realized that's better and that they could change their family tree and their lineage based on that. And it has, right? And I think you're a product of that and as is your son. That and it never hurts to ask. My wife says I'm the luckiest person in the world. It's not I'm lucky, I just asked if I'm interested, I asked. So Grayson was at a fair and there was a mine across the street just where they dug up rocks and stuff for concrete and stuff. It was one of those giant mines. So he called and said, hey, can I drive one of your big giant trucks? The lady was like, no. Well the boss heard her reaction and goes, who are you talking to? Cause this kid's over at the fair and wants to come over and drive one of our trucks. He let me talk to him. Ends up, Grayson goes on a whole tour. He doesn't get to drive the truck, but the guy came over, picked him up, took him on a whole tour through the mine, then the digging. He goes, it was the coolest thing in the world. And I had just asked that stupid question when it never got in. Yeah, dude, that is awesome. I love stories like that because of that. You never know who's listening there's so many people like that out there that, it's not what we normally do, but this kid wants to do it. Sure. And especially kids, like that's the thing with kids. Like go ahead and ask. Kids are naturally inquisitive and want to ask those things. And it's usually parents. and or adults, teachers, that type of thing that always tell you, no, be quiet. Don't ask them, don't bother them. And that's what it always is, don't bother them. And we see that your life has completely changed if you're allowed to ask people, just different things like that, just ask for nothing. simply because the guy was backing off. was like, hey, can I ride with you on the fairgrounds wherever you're taking me? goes, yeah, sure, jump on in. Jumped in, rode around on a tank. Wow, that's awesome. That's a great example. Very cool. So one other question that I had for you is if you, having gone the path that ah you have, if you tomorrow, woke up and you were 13 years old, movie big, it's already been made into a movie. eh If you were Tom Hanks, you're yourself, you wake up, you're 13 years old, what would you start doing? tomorrow to set yourself up to be in the success that you're in now and or to set yourself up for better success, kind of a step by step. And just kind of talk out loud if you want to. I think I would have started with the entertainment at the fair sooner because it is a fun living and you can make good money at it. So I didn't start until I was in my almost early 30s because I did accounting, ran a restaurant, that type of stuff, was doing accounting while doing magic where if I would have started where my son is now. we would have been at a better position sooner. Okay. Yeah. And as far as if somebody's wanting to get into entertainment, is there any other because you're already in that space? Is there any other things that you run into that maybe we haven't heard of necessarily that if you were, I don't know how else to ask this. If you're a vampire and you had infinite lives, like what other thing would you want to get to try out if you weren't already in the position you're in, if that makes sense. I love the fish and my dad, after he retired from his first business, became a charter captain. I probably would have done that because I love the fish. So I could sit on a boat with somebody and show them how to fish. Here's what we're going to catch and go for it. And I would have found a way to make a really good living at it. And there's a lot of charter captains who make a good living at it. Interesting. I've heard the... Yep. Yep. And that's something that I haven't dealt with that necessarily because I'm way too active for fishing. I just can't. I can't not cast and reel and cast and reel. That's just me. I just can't sit still and just watch a bobber or... uh That's the kind of fishing that I was used to when I was raised. But going hunting, right? There's a family down here that we went hunting for wild hogs on their property and these hogs destroy everything. they kill the baby deer, they kill all kinds of other animals and just cause havoc. And so they literally just were like, well, we already have all these hogs here. They're not going anywhere. We might as well just pay people and they have their own, their whole family is who does it. And literally we had like a 13 year old kid. driving us on a big, huge ATV or big upraised uh swamp vehicle. And he would just drive us around until he knew where all the hogs normally like to lay. And then he would just sit there and we would go hunt these things down, shoot them. And then he would bring them back. Another cousin or brother would uh clean them for us and then give us the meat in a cooler. And the whole experience was awesome. Also because It's a family. so everybody's super nice and super respectful and just, you know, it's super down to earth people. you're getting good quality meat, you're ridding them of, pests. And so the, that is a great example that I really want to share with people where you just thinking outside of the box. Um, and people don't understand what that means. Like the conventional box. is what works. It's what everybody tells you works. You go to school till you're in 12th grade, then you get out and you go to college, you get your bachelor's degree, then you go get, there's all these things that everybody else does inside the box. And if you step outside of that for a second and go, actually, I could do this instead and, or add this to that. And I think that's what your show really immediately, when I kind of learned about what all you're doing, I'm like, this guy has stepped out of so many different boxes and is. adding and sprinkling in all these different things. No wonder, you know, he's able to do this on a full-time basis. the, the hypnosis. as hanging backdrops, because we put the backdrops up. The only thing there that's not mine is the stage. So we carry a full sound system, we carry a full light system. I mean, there it was easier because I hung the backdrop on the stage. There are some times where we do the show directly on the ground and have a, it's called an A-frame rigging that the backdrop goes on and that ends up putting like 12 stakes in the ground come alongs, hooking all that, able to make your own cables. Then if there's a problem with the sound, the backtracking it to where it goes down, to getting the lights in the right position, there's a lot to it. It's just not walking out there, but it's... Yeah, but that saves you a lot of money, would imagine, not having to... Or uh I would assume that you would be able to rent that, or did they ever provide that? Or you've always had to provide your own? Okay, that's what I would assume. a sound and light guy such as the South Florida Fair Now we're indoors seating for 400 have a sound light guy just for us which is great because that's I There I saw Emma Rockstar because I get to walk out of the RV walking them back to invention center Walk to the steps. hand me my microphone. I walk up and do my thing But all the other places I say you're paying me to drive an RV down the road and set this show up I'll do the shows for free but you gotta pay for me to set all this junk up that I carry. there are people who just follow shows and do setting stuff up. ah Is that something that you guys uh ever hire out? uh Not necessarily, I don't know what the term is, not like a roadie, that a job or you guys do that all on your own? I do it all on my own just because I want it set in a particular way. Even with my wife helping, she comes out and she wants to help so bad. But it's like, nope, don't stick that there yet. You're two steps ahead of me. I need this and this spot before this one. And it's like the worst day is tear down day because somebody will always come by and go, hey, can I get 50 bucks if I help you do my cables and pick up your 400 extension cords? And I'm like, yeah, no, I just need them set up a certain way. That way whenever I undo them. they go right back out. But there are a few. My buddy who does the Illusion Show, he has an assistant that he pays to travel with him to help with setup and run his music because as he's doing his Illusion Show, he can't be running over and hitting the button and stuff. there are a few that do that, whereas another entertainer who might not be as booked and stuff or from a local place that he's met and stuff, and then he'll hire them to come on and do other things. Okay. if there's a kid out there who doesn't know how to even get into this, doesn't know anybody, It's usually just experience, right? And so to try to do that, you just uh find out about the next show that's going on and just kind of what would you do? Show up there and just start trying to make conversations and see if anybody needs help or how would somebody come to uh be employed to do something like that or make those. would go to the fair and then talk to the entertainer. Say, Hey, I'm wanting to get into entertaining. love the fair market. I want to go on the road for three months during the summer. Ya know.. Can I sleep in my car and go or most of us have fifth wheels and trailers and stuff where, you know, they're little bunk houses and stuff like that. yeah. you're interested, that's another way I just thought of. Go to the fair and volunteer. Just say you want to volunteer with entertainment. Fairs are always needing extra help, especially, you know, just getting people's packets out, stuff like that. Go check, make sure they got ice, water, whatever they need it on stage. Tell them you want volunteer. Yeah. you could just volunteer to just do whatever it is that they're needing, just labor. tell them you want to help with a certain thing, they will definitely let you help, that's for sure. Very cool. that's a lot of people don't, you know, they don't put a lot of stock in that in internships. That right there is your internship to figure out, you know, because you might not be that great at comedy and timing, I've got some family that just traveled whenever the big county fair would come into the state, he would go and just do all the meat cutting. And he was making $35 an hour and he would just go sit in a big 18-wheeler trailer and cut meat all day. And he just got that by going to the fair and just... asking somebody, hey, how do you get a job doing this? They're like, well, actually we need somebody. Well, there you go. I'm interested. Well, then you're hired and let's see how you do We'll train you. the video that's on my website was shot by a buddy out of North Carolina who started doing that for his local fair. He had a drone and stuff and wanted to make a video for the fair. They let him do it. They loved it said, well, you do it next year and we'll pay you. One of the entertainers said, hey, well, you shoot a video of my show. And now I know 10 or 15 people. That's all he's doing now is shooting videos and making videos for people. Yeah, and the drone, mean, there's so many applications for drone. We actually have a dog, she's unfortunately still missing. And there's this guy who, his focus is on uh finding missing animals. This is a terrible place for that, unfortunately, a drone is not very good over a swamp because it's all covered by trees. he charges like $400 to go look for your dog and he has been successful. And every time he mentioned he was successful was finding a dog in a field. there's just endless applications for that. Whether it's that I have buddies who were uh realtors and so they pay somebody to come out and do one over this house a super expensive house that they're trying to sell and and you could just be racking up the It's not the person who dug for gold, it's the guy who sold the shovels, right? Everybody's example of that. And I think if more kids thought about it that way, figure out what it is everyone is gonna need or needs to use to get this accomplished or to set themselves apart. And I think that's where the drone footage is right now. It's still new and people are really setting themselves apart by having that footage because it definitely makes a difference. Okay, so real quick, I wanted to just cover some of the very uh common misconceptions. uh if you're ready to jump into that, a person under hypnosis is asleep or unconscious. That's one of the common misconceptions. Yep, you're in rim sleep. Okay, so you are in REM sleep. When you say that, I immediately think, okay, this person is in a dream state, but when I'm in REM sleep, I'm not awake and I'm not in control of what I'm doing. So if you would explain that a little bit more. No, it's pretty much the opposite of what you just said. They're in REM sleep, but they just, they see what's going on and can understand what's going on. It's like, whenever I say you don't remember your name in your head, you know your name. You go, I know my name is, but whenever it gets to your lips, it just doesn't come any further. It's really cool to see on an Apple watch. Cause whenever I put you into hypnosis, your heart rate goes up and it'll bounce really high. And then whenever I wake you up to make you do stuff, it goes right back down to normal. And then as soon as I do sleep, shoot right back up into REM sleep. So it's fascinating to watch on like an iWatch, iWatch or something like that. yeah, fascinating. Yeah. I'm going to have to ask Malyri about that because she was wearing her watch. So I'm curious to go back and look at, look at that time period. That would be interesting to get screen captures. um So, so somebody's in REM sleep as far as you, we've already talked about, you can't use mind control. what about the misconception that you might get stuck in hypnosis and never wake up? So at the beginning of my show I say you can't videotape this part because a lot of times I'll let people in the audience videotape stuff. You just can't videotape this part because if you show it back to them, they'll go back into hypnosis. But they're just going sleep on you for like four to six hours. Then they're going to wake up and go, I had a really good nap. What happened? Now you can put a suggestion in for like people who stop smoking that whenever you see or smell a cigarette, that'll make you want a glass of water. So that's the implant that you can put in there for something that they do want to do further down the line. But it's also to the point that if you don't want to stop smoking, hypnosis is not going to help you whatsoever because you're going to keep smoking. You might stop for the day, but you're going to go back to it. So that's part of that not being able to implant stuff against what you don't want. Even if it's good for you and you still don't want it, hypnosis won't help you. That's interesting in the research that I was able to do, it just says like, as an example, if a hypnotist suddenly leaves the room, the subject would either drift into ordinary sleep and wake up naturally after a short nap, kind of like you alluded to, or simply open their eyes on their own after a few minutes, almost like they're in a daydream state I don't know if you're like me, but we had, had an hour ride to church one way every Sunday and Wednesday I'm just sitting there staring out the window and I'm not paying attention to anything that I'm seeing. I've already seen it a million times then having your mother go. Seth, are you listening? And I'm like, I'm sorry, what? I was there the whole time. That's a perfect example of it. Because I mean, once in a blue moon, somebody will walk off stage and I can't catch them soon enough. They'll either eventually bring them back around or somebody asks, is that person okay? I'm like, yeah, they'll just wake up in a couple of minutes. So whenever I say don't leave the stage, I just want to make sure you're not in hypnosis and that you're not going to accidentally hurt yourself on the way out by falling or tripping on something. Gotcha. Yeah, unfortunately, I didn't tell you this before. I recorded there while I was on my Osmo Pocket 3 and I'm recording everything that was going on and then I get home and I'm trying to bring the footage over. And what ended up happening is for whatever reason, there was formatting issues between my computer and the memory card. And I finally scrolling through everything, trying to figure it out. says format the card. And without even thinking, I hit Yes, and the second that I hit it, I was like, oh, I'm an idiot. Is that card still in here? Did I just, and yeah, I erased everything on that card. So that's what happened to my footage. That's why I was so, I was reaching out to you on every platform trying to get ahold of you, because I really wanted to make sure I got that footage from you. ah So, so as far as you were, uh as far as you recording the footage and having that available to purchase, I think that's obviously. super important in this instance, A lot of people go on a stage and ends up buying them. And that just helps with our cost of all of doing business. So it is just another way of making money. Cause if we normally, if we're at the fair and we've been there a couple of years, or it's a nice bigger fair where I don't, I'm not trying to get a bigger crowd. And that's why I usually let people film. Cause I'm actually trying to help the fair out by letting people show people what's going on that week at the fair. And we do a special, if you buy it while you're there at the show. you'll save five or $10 and then we'll put them up on the website. And a lot of people rent them. You can either buy it or rent it. But my sales always go up at Thanksgiving and Christmas because you know they're all sitting around the table going, remember when someone sold got hit with a, we got to watch this. Somebody pull a guy's website up and we'll rent it for the day. Very cool. Yeah. And so that's why I wanted to, yeah, I wanted to really buy that. And again, as a way of supporting you too, right? And I think that's a big part of it because you're there, you have this experience and you're like, I feel like we should have paid for that at some point. You paid to get into the fair, I get it. Is there any other parts of your... business, any other things that you offer that I haven't already mentioned or we haven't talked about. Uh, sometimes we do specially things like, I have been called and helped in a murder investigation with the police because, uh, a guy saw his cousin get basically shot in the middle of the street, went blank for three days. And I had just done that little fair and the sheriff called and said, I've researched this. I can use you. Are you willing to come do it? I was like, heck yeah, this is cool. So I had him and a DEA agent feeding me questions while we had this guy under in the office. That was cool. So we do little things like that from time to time. That, yeah, that's not a little thing. That's a pretty big thing. Wow. That's amazing. And so obviously because he's wanting to remember and he blanked it out. oh think, man, that is one of the things that, again, police officers know that most people don't is, yeah, people's memory is so unreliable in traumatic situations. could either be like my example, oh when the guy tried to ambush me. I remembered everything, every detail. However, auditory exclusion, I didn't hear neighbors that were yelling. And so there was people actually trying to get my attention and let me know like that guy's crazy. You should probably not be going in there by yourself. ah But right. The memory is so unreliable in a traumatic situation, especially like that example. And I've heard of a lot of those again, just in police circles, not exactly things that I can share, but Yeah, that's way more common than people realize. As a police officer, when I get called in on some accident uh question, these, lawyers pays me to just give my advice and tell my testimony in person of what I saw at the event, but I don't have some amazing skillset like yours. So is there any other part of that that is difficult for you or like you have insurance for somebody falling down? I don't know what that's like if you're working with the police. or the DEA or something like that. But the good part on the witnesses part, cause it was a illegal poor house. anything they say underneath hypnosis Can NOT be used in a court of law. So goes, you say you killed somebody. We can't charge you with that. Now they can go find another way to get more evidence from a different direction and come get it. But they're like, you know, No, we already know you're there. you you're clear that anything you say, you know, if you were doing drugs or whatever, you're, you're clear of doing all that. Cause they, they were just looking for another lead because they had ran out of leads. And he went back from hearing phone calls and people at the party and things that were said and multiple shots. That was the first time they ever knew more than one shot. So then they knew to spread out their search, look for multiple bullets and stuff like that. Yeah, Wild. Man, that is one I was not expecting. That's interesting. And that's the only time that's ever happened, or has that happened to you? just one on that one so far. you never know what your skill set is gonna come in handy. the girl with the seizures, hopefully that will become more that we can actually go into the doctor's office, hypnotize her and try to put her into seizures and see if they'll help her come out and stuff like that. that's, and that's again, that's changing somebody's life. So as far as yeah, making an impact like that, I would imagine that you enjoy making people laugh It's working one-on-one and really changing people's lives that I would imagine have even more of an impact on you and why you continue to do what you're doing. Yeah, I have a buddy who runs a food joint at one of the fairs and I hypnotized him years ago to stop smoking. So every year I see him, he gives me the updated total that he has saved from not smoking cigarettes. And every year I go, okay, now you got to me to dinner. And I'm sure he does that very happily because yeah, it's more than just that money. So I only had a couple others real quick for you and then we're... going to go ahead and end this uh podcast because there's so much good information that you're putting out. And again, having Malyri's video, we might have more questions. So I might have to hit you up on the side afterwards to get more answers from you. But as far as the idea of only gullible or weak-minded people can be hypnotized, I came up to you and said, hey, I don't understand hypnosis. Could you clue me in? I was in the military. I was in special operations. So don't know if I was trying too hard or wasn't trying hard enough because I wasn't able to go under, but Malyri did. And my wife is a combat veteran Marine. Well, I always say the smarter you are, the easier it is to be hypnotized simply because you know how to focus on things better. You can focus, relax and do that. I've actually hypnotized a neurosurgeon before. And to me, that was the coolest one because I wanted to talk to her afterwards of, you know, what did it feel like to you and stuff. And she described it best, you know, it's a dream situation, but it felt like anything you said made sense. And that's what I was going to do. And that was from somebody who operates on other people's brains. I was like, that's cool. weak minded people, think the idea there too is not just whether they're smart or not, but whether they are susceptible to or gullible. I think that's the other word that gets thrown around a lot in this discussion and in the research I was able to do From what you said, it's the opposite A lot of military people are the easiest to put under as well because they're so disciplined, able to focus. Yeah, I think the gullible would be wanting to try so hard that they wouldn't go into it or they would be so scatterbrained about it, they wouldn't be able to focus long enough to do it. It's going to actually make it harder for them. how often do you have to deal with that with people that are not actually under, they're just trying to really, they really want to do it so they're trying to fake it. If you fooled me up all the way to the point that we're doing stuff, the tell that we'll give you away is that you focus on the people that you came with and you start laughing with them. That would be more of a tell because once you're under, You sort of just see the stuff around you and not the whole big giant picture. That's what most people say. I could focus on that, but I really didn't notice the crowd sitting out there, all the lights or... monster trucks going off next door, know, was more and they'll look around for stuff like That makes so much sense. oh double check you if you're doing it, I just say, you know, go ahead and go have a seat. Speaking of that, so you did do that on stage. So you put everybody under individually uh and then you, yeah, know, the stretch out, again, that was where Katie really stretched herself out and just kind of took up all the space. She wasn't worried about uh any teddy bear next to her. She just wanted to have all the space. So I just made jokes to her husband. I'm sure he sleeps on a very small sliver of their bed. uh I was curious, you put everybody underneath individually or you went up and you touched them. I was curious about that part. So you go and touch them on the shoulder, you tell them, or you kind of like lean them over. What is that that you're really doing right there and how are you able to... to tell, hopefully I'm not trying to give away any secrets to your skill set, but just how is it that you're making sure that they're going under? I know you check hands to make sure that it's kind of limp. Am I getting that right? nice and relaxed is the first one. And the reason I'm grabbing there, I'm actually grabbing their wrist on the first one because I'm trying to feel their pulse. Once again, rapid. Yep. So, you you feel the rapid pulse going. That gives me a good sign. Then I have them focused right here. If they lock in on that and not distracted by everybody around them, that tells me they're more tuned in to me. Then something goes, go, your eyes are getting heavier and heavier. And I have some videos on Facebook and Instagram, all that stuff, but you can actually watch their eyes. They just start fluttering 90 miles an hour. Then the little tug to them just sends them down into hypnosis. Okay, so and this makes sense to me even more as you're describing that as a police officer You learn uh SFSTs with a drunk one of those is the nystagmus with your eyes whenever they do the pin follow follow my pin with your eyes not with your head with your eyes the second that their eyes if their face is straight and their eyes go over to something their eyes start bouncing back and forth They cannot help it. You cannot fake it. so in almost every one of the tests that police do, almost all of it's crap. Every one of them, could, a defense attorney could blow out of the water, standing on one foot, do your toes, saying the alphabet backwards for all those things blown out of water. The only one that actually matters that nobody can fake and any defense attorney who's smart tries to stay away from even bringing up is their eyes bouncing in the, nystagmus in their eyes. So just like you're describing there, there are things that they can't fake, especially with their eyes fluttering like that with your pulse. You're not a Bene Gesserit from the dune series. You're not able to control your own pulse and control, uh, poisons in your body So that's fascinating that there's. that there's a science behind this and that it's to the point to where you know, right, that you have this dialed in, that you know if somebody's looking at you, their pulses is elevated but not enough, and then their friends are laughing and they start laughing with them. Well, then they're probably not fully under or they're trying to kind of game the system a little bit. That's fascinating to me. Very cool. ah The very last one, we already talked about the Manchurian candidate, I brought that up, but the idea that somebody could make you mind controlled and uh blindly obey orders or commit crimes with no memory. the reason I, obviously we kind of touched on that, but I have, as a police officer, learned about these cases. And so there are husbands. as an example, who said, no, when I killed my wife in the middle of the night, I was, you I had been under hypnosis and I do sleepwalking and so I just got up and shot my wife and then buried her in the backyard and I went right back to bed and so obviously nobody in their right mind would go back to bed covered in mud but that's what I did and then I got up and called the police on myself. I wouldn't do that unless I was under hypnosis and this has happened multiple times, people thinking that they're gonna be smart and out game police officers So have you ever heard of a case like that? Using hypnosis? I had was a couple of kids had gotten uh arrested outside the fairgrounds for robbing uh a store and they were trying to say the hypnotist made them do it. But that's back of where I videotaped the whole thing so we can go look and see exactly what I said the whole time. that's the other hypnotist had to go down. He actually took the video with him and said, I have the whole show so we can watch it. And at that point, the kids, you said, okay, now we're making that up. I mean, points for creativity, I guess, but yeah, that's not possible. that's, again, something that everybody should know and should feel comfortable with is that, you again, there are bad people out there who do things occasionally, but again, the type of show that you're doing, what you were trying to bring joy into people's lives, uh let them have fun. As I mentioned, my wife is... an extrovert, but she is super introverted in the rest of oh her personality and seems like one. She's not the type of person who jumps up on a stage, gets a microphone and tries to sing like Dolly. It doesn't happen. The irony is Dolly is one of her favorite people on the planet. And she's like super obsessed with going to Dollywood as soon as you said that she's gonna stand up and sing a Dolly song, was like, okay, here we go. That's right up her alley. You could depict a better example. um So anyways, yeah. to a show in Vegas, you know it's going to be a little raunchy and more dirty. So you're already steps to that way, you and you get them kind of crazy, but that's the majority of their audience. I'm doing a county fair and a state fair where I have kids and I will only do certain things. Just like any other comedy show or any other entertainment, it's 18 years and up only, that's a clue. It can be raunchy, But yeah, I completely agree with that. And that's why you wanna steer clear of those things if that's not what you're looking for, but to lump everybody in together as it must all be raunchy. And I think the thing with the horn, and thinking that somebody was goosing you, because I had to ask Malyri, I'm like, so did it really feel like I pinched you? Like, she's like, yeah, like I felt the sensation, even though, you know, it wasn't happening. ah You know, that's, it really felt that real to me. And I was like, wow, that's, you know, that is amazing. There's, there have been people in the military that while I was in, uh that took an ambient and they did things while they were asleep. I'm sure you've heard about people doing a lot of crazy things on ambient, especially when it first came out, because that was kind of the talk of the news for whatever, for a few, for a couple of weeks. And people have done a lot of things where they're in a dreamlike state, uh, and they don't remember doing things afterwards. My, my question was not remembering it in my research. I saw that it says that, um, there is a way for you to. be able to give somebody not amnesia, but it's like this short term, just memory loss of that in a clinical way. But I was curious as I was reading about it, that it says that it's more akin to when you wake up and remember something from my dream And then when I actually see Malyri and I remember to tell her now I can't remember what my dream was at all. Like it was this very detailed, very interesting, crazy dream or something. And then I'm going to tell her and it's just gone out of my memory. It's not like they have the ability to just go in and start. erasing things out of your brain, but that it's almost like you're putting it into a place in your mind where it's attainable like the way you described their name. They know their name, but on that stage, at that moment, they can't make it come across their lips Could you just explain that? That's really the last question I had for you. always say 70 % will remember everything they did on stage. Because on a scale from one to 10, they're probably hitting like a four, five, maybe six. 20 % will remember pieces of sparks like you just woke up out of a dream. That's probably our five, six, sevens. Only about 5 % won't remember anything, and they're the super deep ones, like eight, nines. And they literally felt like they were up there for five minutes. And I can usually tell who that is. And I'll ask them, just cause it gets a funny laugh of how long you think you're up here for. they'll go like five minutes. But then just that fast, I can put them right back down and make them remember everything. And to see the shock on their face. If that doesn't convince you, you're just going to argue it to your blue in the face. Cause that's the hilarious part. If you get a mom up there and goes, I didn't do anything. And I put it right back down and she goes, Oh my goodness, I was singing Dolly Parton and It's the shock on their faces, what it is. Okay, yeah, that was really my last question there. Is there any other things that you'd like to share with people, upcoming events, if you don't mind sharing where you're gonna be next? uh do the East Coast. We start off in Santa Claus, Indiana at Holiday World Theme Park. That's like that first weekend in June. Then we do... uh that I'm going to add. Yeah. And then we do a couple of uh Pennsylvania fairs, one on the East and one on the West, the big Butler fairs on the West. Then we dropped down to Virginia, Maryland, back and forth through there in the North Carolina, uh Mobile, Alabama. And then our last one in November is Jacksonville, Florida. And then we have like a month off and then we start back up in Florida with the South Florida fair in January. Pasco County will be back in February. Suntner in March, Lake in April. So we'll go right back around to it. So once again, if you go to any of my social media, it has the listings of, I have a 25 show schedule up so everybody can look and see. And if you see it, out to fair and say hi. Yeah, awesome. Okay, yeah, and I'm going to provide links so that people can find that. And as I said before, I'm going to also provide, or I'm going to go ahead and publish the video of Malyri and Katie both being under hypnosis. And I look forward to it. I look forward to the comments that people have to say, and especially now that we've actually answered some of those questions. And if somebody has anything else, I pitch those over to you and get a little bit more understanding. Obviously, I want to stay in touch with you and we might do this again next year, try to get Malyri hypnotized again, or I might try to go under next time and see if I can do it. Sounds good.