Episode 9: Disinformation and climate change, with Zanagee Artis

Unchecked: The architecture of disinformation

Unchecked: The architecture of disinformation
Episode 9: Disinformation and climate change, with Zanagee Artis
Dec 17, 2025 Season 1 Episode 9
Curious Squid

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SYNOPSIS

Zanagee Artis, a climate advocate and educator with Natural Resources Defense Council, joins Rachel and Dan to talk about disinformation in arctic and coastal drilling. Zanagee describes the challenges of addressing disinformation when the time horizons of climate research spans decades. Inspired by this discussion, Rachel coins the lens of Time Feel. Dan, impressed by efforts to close the physical distance between policymakers and drilling in the arctic, suggests the lens of Distance.


STORIES OF DISINFORMATION

White House destruction photo

Black Death poem


INTERVIEW WITH ZANAGEE ARTIS


LENSES

Distance

The gap between a personal context and the context of the information creates an opportunity for misinformation. (e.g. global warming isn't real when it's snowing in my town).

  • How does the system help users bridge the gap between their personal context and other contexts?
  • How is the information contained in the system distanced from the person consuming it? How does the system close the gap?
  • How much does the system expect users to close the gap between themselves and the information?

Time Feel

In music, time feel is how the musician interprets time while playing. More than rhythm or beat, it’s how the music creates a feeling of time passing. 

  • How does the system treat the passage of time?
  • How does the system handle time horizons and the differing perceptions of speed?
  • How does this thing support or not support the potential variations in time?
  • What role does urgency play in the system?

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Personnel

  • Dan Brown, Host
  • Rachel Price, Host
  • Emily Duncan, Editor

Music

  • Turtle Up Fool, by Elliot

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Unchecked is a production of Curious Squid

Curious Squid is a digital design consulting firm specializing in information architecture, user experience, and product design

Episode Artwork Episode 9: Disinformation and climate change, with Zanagee Artis 50:16 Episode Artwork Episode 8: Disinformation and gun violence, with Nick Suplina 1:03:52 Episode Artwork Episode 7: Disinformation and climate culture, with Brandon Schauer 55:38 Episode Artwork Episode 6: Disinformation and its consequences, with Prof. Claire Wardle 56:44 Episode Artwork Episode 5: Disinformation and cognitive bias, with David Dylan Thomas 1:00:09 Episode Artwork Episode 4: Disinformation and federal information spaces with Dana Chisnell 47:57 Episode Artwork Episode 3: Disinformation and vaccines with Dr. Adam Ratner 52:12 Episode Artwork Episode 2: Disinformation and civic tech, with Cyd Harrell 55:40 Episode Artwork Episode 1: Disinformation and healthcare with Susannah Fox 1:06:13 Episode Artwork Pilot - Introducing Unchecked 37:44