The Sunset Connection - Perspectives from SF's Sunset Neighborhood

Safety in the Sunset: A Community Conversation

• Jessica J. Ho • Season 1 • Episode 2

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Dive into the heart of the Sunset District with SFPD Taraval Police Captain Brien Hoo as he explores the intricacies of community safety and policing. Growing up in the area, Captain Hu shares his vibrant memories and insights into how the neighborhood has transformed over the decades. This episode not only highlights the pressing public safety issues facing the community, particularly the rise of scams targeting vulnerable residents, but also emphasizes the vital role of community policing in building trust and cooperation between law enforcement and citizens. 

Join us for an engaging conversation filled with valuable insights and a bit of fun with trivia that delves into the history of the Sunset District. Discover how each of us can contribute to making our community safer while celebrating its rich diversity. If you're curious about how to get involved in local initiatives or simply want to learn more about your neighborhood, this episode is packed with relevant and actionable information. Let’s work together to keep our Sunset District thriving! Tune in, engage with us, and take part in shaping the future of our community.

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Jessica Ho:

Hello and welcome to the second episode of the Sunset Connection, where we explore all things Outer Sunset District. I'm your host, Jessica Ho, and I'm so excited to continue this journey together. A big shout out to everyone who tuned in and commented on our first episode with Nauber Chau. Thank you so much. I'm thrilled to bring you another exciting guest today, but before we dive in, let's talk about what we'll cover. We're going to explore the history of the sunset with today's special guest, dive into current public safety issues affecting our community and then get his perspective on where the sunset is headed in the future. We'll also lighten things up with some fun sunset trivia. So, without further ado, let me introduce today's guest, Captain Brian Hu. Captain Hu was born and raised right here in the sunset, attended local schools, served in the US Army and has been with the SFPD since 1995. He was promoted to captain in 2023 and now leads the Carrabelle Police Station. Welcome, Captain Hu.

Captain Hoo:

Jessica, thank you for having me here. I'm very happy to be here at BA and being on your podcast show.

Jessica Ho:

And I'm so thankful that you also brought one of your officers with us today. Do you want to introduce him?

Captain Hoo:

Yes, I'm bringing Officer Benny Liu. Benny is one of the few actually the only officer at Terrible Station that actually knew me as Brian Liu as a police officer.

Jessica Ho:

Great. So, Captain Hu, you've got deep roots in the Sunset. What are some of your earliest memories growing up here?

Captain Hoo:

Well, I was born in 1968. I spent the first five years in Chinatown. We moved out to the Sunset in 1973 when I was five. So I grew up on Bourbon Street, noriega, lawton, west Portal. I went to the schools you know Jefferson Elementary, went to Herbert Hoover and then went to Lincoln High School before I joined the Army at the West Porter Recruiting Station.

Jessica Ho:

So how does it feel to work next to the place that you went to high school?

Captain Hoo:

It's very. It brings back memories as I drive past Lincoln High School. I always think about my memories at Lincoln High School. When I drive by Herbert Hoover, I think about the memories as Herbert Hoover and the same thing during Jefferson Elementary. I just remember how the school looked then and how does it look now, with a few minor changes. The schools generally look the same. Jefferson Elementary like there wasn't a gate on Irving Street you could actually climb over the fence and play on the playground, which I did as a little kid, and Herbert, there's a fence that blocks the entrance as you walk up. Before it wasn't. It was very open and, of course, Lincoln High School. Lincoln did a lot of ADA compliance, a lot of ramps and a lot of gates and a lot of fences, but when I went to high school it was a very, very open campus.

Jessica Ho:

Oh, really. So like all those gates are new.

Captain Hoo:

Well, maybe in the last, I don't know how many years, but all I know is like when I graduated from high school and then, of course, from the time, you know, being a police officer, I started noticing those things.

Jessica Ho:

What did you live?

Captain Hoo:

So I lived on Irving Street. So when I went to Jefferson Elementary I lived on Irving Street and then when I went to Lincoln High School I lived on Lawton Street. So, as you know, my mom didn't own a house so we rented a lot. So as when things you know happened, my mom had to move, so we just moved throughout different locations, but we stayed in the Sunset or the Terreville district.

Jessica Ho:

Did you remember any restaurants or shops that you used to frequent a lot?

Captain Hoo:

Yeah, so on Irving Street when you talk about how things have changed. So I remember Irving Street as Baskin Robbins were 25 cents for an ice cream cone. It used to be on Irving and maybe 24. Okay, 24 to 26.

Jessica Ho:

What is it now? Is it a bank?

Captain Hoo:

I think it's like a drink shop. Right, it's a drink shop right now.

Jessica Ho:

Yes, oh, actually I know what you're talking about. It's one of those Asian like Boba and like yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's one of those Asian like Boba and like yeah, I know exactly, because it does kind of look like a Baskin Robbins.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, and Walgreens used to be a gas station, so there used to be quite a lot of gas stations. I remember you could ride your bicycle and your skateboard in the middle of the street and there was barely any car traffic. That's how Irving, you know, was so slow.

Jessica Ho:

Was the N-Judah running by that time.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, the N-Judah, you know, was running and and of course when I got older middle school I hung out in West Portal a lot. So West Portal was maybe a five minute walk away from my house, so I would go to West Portal, spent lots of time at the bookstore, spent lots of time at the toy store, at the movie theater. Irving Street, you know, has had some great comic book stores, so literally I went after school. You know like I would hang out at the comic book store and play video games. There's quite a bunch of arcades on Irving Street.

Jessica Ho:

Back in the day, what stands out to you as being really different now?

Captain Hoo:

It's interesting because you know, when we first moved out, you know, to Sunset, there wasn't that much Asian businesses. So Irving Street reminded me of West Portal, how it is now, and the same thing with Noriega Terravel. I really didn't go too much on Terravel Street until high school, but I just remember, growing up as a young kid, as a young teenager, irving Street, noriega, you know, was in the early 70s. You'd be shocked of how much has changed. You know, from then to now, like you walk, all the signs were in English. You know.

Captain Hoo:

Now, obviously you know different cultures and whatnot, but it was very, very different. You know, growing up, you know, coming from the community, like Chinatown, where everybody looks like you, I mean you go out to the sunset. You know, when I say sunset, urban Street, you know Noriega is a big, big difference from then to now. You know, high school actually opened me up to a different culture. I was, you know, I was involved with the JROTC program. So also I was in the Boy Scouts. So that you know, because I like doing outdoor things, and the Boy Scouts, so that you know, because I like doing outdoor things, and so the Boy Scouts was an avenue for me to go hiking, camping, spend a lot of time outdoors. You know which sort of opened my eyes, you know to see like, hey, there's other people with different interests and you know, so that was pretty cool of going to, you know the Boy Scouts and going to Lincoln High School with the RLTC program and exploring and seeing other people, other cultures.

Jessica Ho:

So, Captain Hu, what got you interested in public safety?

Captain Hoo:

Actually I did not grow up wanting to become a police officer, so I sort of fell into it. So I was in the Army.

Jessica Ho:

Okay, so why did you join the Army?

Captain Hoo:

Oh, I joined the army. Just me and some other friends joined the army, just like uh just for something to do something to do. You know, um san francisco, it just uh, we were looking for adventure, you know okay, and what year was this?

Captain Hoo:

1985, when I joined the army, I uh did not think I was going to come back to san francisco, you know. And as I was going through the years in the army, one of my friends, you know, asked me like, hey, what do you plan to do? I was at the 10 year mark, so at the time I was a staff sergeant, e6. I was an infantry guy, I was ranger qualified, so did a lot of things in the army, did a lot of, you know, cool things. And I was thinking about having a career in the army.

Captain Hoo:

And one of my friends who was a San Francisco deputy asked me okay, what do you plan to do? And I was like, what do you mean? And so basically he encouraged me to take the test. So I took the test for three departments Davis City, oakland and San Francisco. And San Francisco and Oakland, you know like I got, I was in the academy, got hired by San Francisco and then, as I, you know, became a police officer. I enjoyed it, you know, it has a lot of great qualities. So I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to stick it out. And of course, 30 years later, I'm still here.

Jessica Ho:

It's amazing. You were one of the Green Berets. Can you tell me a little bit more about what a Green Beret is and why that's important and how that fits into your role as captain today?

Captain Hoo:

So, yes, I retired as a command sergeant, major in special forces. I was an 18 Charlie, a special forces engineer sergeant. I was an 18 Zulu and I was a Halo engineer sergeant on a Halo team. I deployed numerous times. You know Afghanistan, iraq and some other places. Little did I know that I would spend such a long time. You know Afghanistan, iraq and some other places. Little did I know that I would spend such a long time, you know, serving my country, you know as a infantryman and then going selection and going special forces.

Jessica Ho:

So Walk us through a typical day of your life as a Terreville police station captain.

Captain Hoo:

Sure so Terreville station, you know it's 10.6, 10.8 miles, 163,000 residents.

Jessica Ho:

What is the boundaries of the Terre Ville police station?

Captain Hoo:

So the boundaries, I mean obviously north to south, you know we have Lincoln, all the way down to Daly City. You know we have the ocean and now it gets a little tricky. So, like the borderline between us and Park Station, you know, is 7th Avenue, and as 7th Avenue goes through, you know, st Francis Woods, and it goes through Ocean, it gets a little bit tricky, you know. And then the borderline between us and Ingleside is where 280 is. So it's like a big, huge. I wouldn't call it a square, but maybe an extended rectangle.

Jessica Ho:

Isn't it like the largest police station by geography?

Captain Hoo:

Yes, it's 10.6 miles. My station is budgeted for 100 officers. I have approximately 54 officers, so that translates to longer response time. My station averages about 2,200 calls for service, about 75 per day, about 25 per shift. We have three shifts days, swings and midnights.

Captain Hoo:

So when I come in as a captain, um on my desk, uh, my, my clerk is very, very uh in tune with me. So the things that has a priority she puts directly in front of my desk, you know, and I have my in basket. My in basket is all the reports from the last 24 hours, any significant things, and of course I have my work phone. So, depending on the night prior, I will triage my emails. If it's super important, you know, I will flag it. So that's the first thing I address. You know this good business management rules. Every captain has the way of how they manage that. This just works more efficient for me.

Captain Hoo:

I try not to stay in the office all day, just answer an email. So I do a quick burst in the morning and I'll go out. I'll speak to my lieutenants, speak to my sergeants, you know. See what's going on, get the lay of the land, go in the back office, go over the events, if I have any community meetings, if I have any projects, if I have any paperwork that needs to be done. I attend lineups. I will attend at three o'clock lineup. I'll talk to the officers, address any of their concerns, any of the issues, and then from there, you know, I'll make myself available, like today. A member of CPAB, mark Christensen, called me regarding an issue. He wanted me.

Jessica Ho:

Oh yeah, and for our listeners, what is a CPAB?

Captain Hoo:

So the CPAB is a Community Police Advisory Board. In fact, Jessica is a board member, so thank you for helping out. I have five to six members of the community who help assist. You know they're there to give me advice. They're also there to, you know, make suggestions.

Jessica Ho:

What is for our listeners? What is community policing, and how is that different than regular policing?

Captain Hoo:

Community policing is where I listen to the community what their concerns are and with the resources, you know, I allocate, you know, and because I have three supervisors District 4, 7, and 11, you know each of them, you know, has their own, like I wouldn't call it agenda, but they have their priorities, you know. And you know each of them, you know, has their own, like I wouldn't call it agenda, but they have their priorities you know, and you know, obviously they listen through their constituents, you know, and that information gets back to me.

Jessica Ho:

What's a blessing scam?

Captain Hoo:

So blessing scams is just the term that my station uses to encompass everything. We should probably do a better job of just saying scams. But the blessing scam originally originated from where Asians, you know, are specifically targeted, you know, because of their core cultural norms of having their property, their jewelry, blessed for good fortune and good luck. So of course, preying on superstitious values, that encourages a lot of people to give up their money, give up their jewelry in order to be blessed and of course it's a scam. So to put it in perspective, last year, from 2024, we had 462 blessing scams, or scams for a total of $7 million. They prey on the elderly people. It's evolved more to now where not just jewelry, you know, it's actually money.

Captain Hoo:

So you know part of the community policing we do is we educate the banks, you know like be alert for large, you know, withdrawals of cash. You know we try to educate the, the younger, grandkids and children so they can check on their parents. You know, um, for example, like the latest scam that I got yesterday was a flyer, a card, that basically said and it had the victim's name and address. It looked like a very professional postcard you get in the mail and it elicits more private information from you, so you would actually become maybe a victim of identity theft. Wow, and also with machine learning and AI. You know like we conducted another scam seminar at our station and one of the victims actually showcased a video of a famous celebrity speaking in their own language. You know, trying to get them to invest in crypto.

Jessica Ho:

Yes, and this is recent.

Captain Hoo:

Yeah, it's a little recent.

Jessica Ho:

yes, so it's fascinating that, like, when I think of scams right, especially like online phishing scams I've always thought of the tech department, right, Like it's an IT problem, not a public safety problem. But what you're saying and what you're seeing is that the scams have become so sophisticated and so profitable right Like $7 million of scams just from your district in the last year is a considerable amount of money that has been elicited from scams, so it's more of a public safety issue at this point.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, so as a captain of Terrible Station, I go to meetings. Central Station has the same meetings we do. It's prolific in all the district stations, you know. I just so happen to have a large Asian population in my district, so I'm focused on part of that. So to date we have 38 blessing scams. So my goal is to lower the number of scams, you know, and by education.

Jessica Ho:

But you also want people to report it right, Because aren't there unreported scams that are going on?

Captain Hoo:

Absolutely so. We do know that when people get scammed, you know they've lost a good, significant portion of their life savings. You know they lost a significant portion of the jewelry that they're planning to pass down to their children or their grandchildren. And then they have the public shame. You know yes the shame.

Captain Hoo:

You know, of not reporting and so we're encouraging people to report.

Captain Hoo:

Every time I go to these scam meetings I always bring, you know, officers who are bilingual, speak multiple languages, so that way if there is a scam and they want it, you know like, we'll make sure that it gets reported, documented.

Captain Hoo:

If they feel uncomfortable, you know, in the presence of others, we'll make sure that the report would be taken in a private area so people can't see that they're, you know, a victim, if they choose to. Generally we haven't had that. We have a lot of people you know who've come forward and said like, yes, I was a scam victim, I already reported to the police and you know they share their stories. So, in fact, community Engagement Division you know who helps, you know, with the blessing scams did two very, very good videos where they showcased victims from well, not called victims, potential victims from one of our community centers who by they attended a blessing scam seminar and they recognized the signs that they were being scammed. So they basically did a role playing, did acting, and they reenacted to the best of their memory what happened and it was made by the police department.

Jessica Ho:

Yes, all right, listeners, I'm going to link these videos to our show notes so you can check them out later For our listeners. If any of them may have been a victim of a scam or know someone who has been a victim of a scam, or knows someone who has been a victim of a scam, how would you advise them?

Captain Hoo:

well, first of all it's like making sure it gets reported, okay, but like what if I feel shameful?

Jessica Ho:

like what if I like don't want to report it because I don't want? Like it's, I'm too busy? I think it's like what, what are the police going to do? Anyway, like you know which? Are they going to get my money back?

Captain Hoo:

I just feel like I'm just going to have to deal with it yes, we do have a small, significant portion of the population, you know, that feel discouraged. You know like police are overworked, they're understaffed. You know they're not going to get to me in time, you know, um. So I encourage everybody, you know, if you're listening, you know if you have a relative relative, check on your grandparents, check on your parents to see if that happened, you know to that or at least say hey, there's these scams going on, you know, and if they are, try to encourage them to come in. We have people who are bilingual. We have people, you know, from the district attorney's office.

Captain Hoo:

We are very well-versed in the scams and we can't be. How can I say we need as much information as we can so we can make arrests and do convictions. So some of the bigger scam meetings we do have representatives from the district attorney's office. Because a question is asked what's the prosecution rate? What's the conviction rate? What happens when we arrest and convict people? We do know that most of the suspects they come here, they do their crimes and they leave.

Jessica Ho:

It's not a San Francisco problem, it's an international problem.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, it is.

Jessica Ho:

Very likely they may be tied to a larger crime ring that the SFPD has already been working on trying to identify for a certain amount of time. So I think one of the things that may be helpful for our listeners is maybe sharing a success story of how you're able to track down one of these people.

Captain Hoo:

Yeah, so I do have a plainclothes team and they're phenomenal. The only problem with a team they can't be everywhere at once, right? So this month they're focused on scams, you know, and so, and like anything else, the icing on the cake would be actually catching somebody in the act. But the fact that we've been doing a phenomenal job of deterring and preventing, that's a success of my book. Last year, you know, we've just had a bunch of people that were scammed on Noriega, on Irving Street.

Captain Hoo:

This year the scams have focused. For example, over the weekend, you know, we had one scam that was generated by a phone call. So we see that the displacement, or as crooks, you know, they get wise to what we're doing and they start switching on how they approach their victims. So now it's by text, by phone emails. You know, and those are the hard things that we can't, you know, with a visible police presence, you know we can't deter. I can easily have officers walking on Irving Street, driving by on Noriega, getting out and engaging with the merchants, you know, and that does have a difference. But what I can't do is I don't have a cyber police.

Jessica Ho:

Do you think that might be the next step?

Captain Hoo:

That is, of course, when we talk about now. It's very difficult now to say that you have a scammer who's coming from a different country, not inside the United States. Very difficult, especially, you know, if we don't have a treaty or we don't have some sort of partnership with that country. Very hard to make arrests, especially if that government, you know, may or not be, you know, aligned with our interests as America. So very difficult, you know. The only thing we can do with the scams that are over the phone and with AI, you know, is like make sure it's valid. For example, one of the latest trends with AI is that somebody calls and mimics the voice of your loved one saying that they need money and they need help.

Jessica Ho:

That's so insane.

Captain Hoo:

It is insane.

Jessica Ho:

I mean, I don't know if our listeners have ever tried playing with voice generating AI, but it is scary how close it can make someone sound.

Captain Hoo:

Yes. So the way to help mitigate that is talk to your loved one, have some sort of quick like, something specific that they would know, for example, like if it's your, you know your kid, well, what's your nickname? You know something specific where, like, they would know, you know like. And then at some point, if they don't give that Bonifidi word or phrase or can't articulate certain things, then you go OK, this is a scam. And then you can hang up and then call your child's phone or adult's phone, whatever, to verify.

Jessica Ho:

I mean, I love that we're talking about this, because I think it's not really something that is communicated widely to the public through a PSA that you know, crime isn't just physical anymore. It's also cybercrime and it's becoming something that is not yet, hopefully, physical, but it's causing people to lose a lot of money, which does affect their well-being, right. So I do think that this is something that maybe in the future, we can explore more.

Captain Hoo:

Absolutely. I mean, we're not there yet, but you know, the only is by education. If you get a strange text, call your police messaging different languages, different communities, just to get it out. We want it to be to the point of where we go to the meetings and people say to us we heard your message, we know, like I'm learning from house scams. You know with AI and that was very interesting to me because how technology evolves, right.

Jessica Ho:

So it's changing the way that you police.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, and the AI can be in a language you know that's not yours. So if you're a native, let's say you speak Toisan or you speak a different language, the AI is speaking your language. So now you're letting your guard down.

Jessica Ho:

Right.

Captain Hoo:

And then, next thing you know you. You know you feel hypnotized or you feel compelled to give information, and now you're giving the keys to your identity.

Jessica Ho:

So, speaking of the future, like what is the future of the sunset? Look like to you.

Captain Hoo:

Well, we know the sunset, you know, is changing, you know, with the passage of Prop K. We know about the Upper Great Highway. I know that's very contentious but that's not going to happen. Affordable housing what housing that's going to be coming? And, of course, like anything else, infrastructure transportation, public transportation I hope it gets better. Seems like terrible streets always been worked on West Portal, you know. So I look at it and see. You know cities have to change, you know, throughout the years, and so what I'm hoping for the Terrible District is obviously more police staffing. You know I would like to have more police presence to help with community policing, for example. That public transportation I get a lot of complaints, you know, on people who block the train tracks on 9th Avenue. So if you're listening out there, please don't do that. I'm getting complaints. So we're going to focus efforts on people who are double parked, blocking the train tracks Because, I get it, you're taking a train, you have blocking.

Jessica Ho:

That person gets out it just makes sense that, like for the benefit of the public or the goodwill of the majority that that person doesn't you know, block the train tracks I'm glad that resonates with you.

Captain Hoo:

As somebody who takes public transportation, you exactly know what I'm talking about. And to include the, you know like ocean avenue, you know the merchants want to see more of the visible police presence. We know shoplifting, you know, is still a crime. That's still here, you know. And, and you know I would like to see the Walgreens, you know, stay open. But obviously I'm losing three in my district and we understand that. That. You know crime is probably going to bleed over to those locations. So you know I I'm, you know I'm sorry for my plainclothes team. I'm tasking them out to do lots of things, but they do great work, you know. So.

Jessica Ho:

Yeah, I heard great things about the plainclothes team.

Captain Hoo:

Well, absolutely. I just increased the staff and I just gave them one more officer, so that would definitely that one officer would greatly make a difference in making sure that the team can do more than one function. So my goal is for them to not just work on one crime, but they can work on a multiple of issues at the same time.

Jessica Ho:

If our listeners want to learn more. Are there any websites or any social media?

Captain Hoo:

Yeah, so tons of ways to get involved. So it just depends on your appetite, what you can do as a minimum. Of course, everyone's social media. You know you could follow us on X. You know you can send emails. You can subscribe to our newsletter If you want to get more involved in person. You can go to the community meetings if you feel like you're.

Jessica Ho:

When are the community meetings?

Captain Hoo:

Third Thursday of the month at 6 o'clock at Terrible Station.

Jessica Ho:

And that's on Terrible and 24th.

Captain Hoo:

Yes, terrible on 24th. You know it's in the community room. Usually our community room meetings have about 30 to 40 people, so it's you know it's an hour long, so we try to stick by. You know good business rules. Of course. If you have a question, we'll state afterwards, so that way you're not publicly embarrassed. Or if you feel like you need a little bit more privacy, you know a team that can listen to your concerns and then see what we can do.

Jessica Ho:

Join the CPAB.

Captain Hoo:

That's a great shout out for Jessica. Thank you, you know she knows we've been trying to recruit additional members. You know, know, by having more additional members it spreads out the workload. So, yes, absolutely, it's a good, great plug. And so, yes, if you're interested in, you know, becoming a member of the police advisory board, we meet the third Wednesday of the month. Once again, you know serving, you know it's like there's no extra pay for it, it's just the gratification and the benefits, personal, that you're helping the community.

Jessica Ho:

All right, so we're going to be playing a game of trivia. We've invited Officer Benny Liu to join us as well. Benny, you want to say hello?

Captain Hoo:

Hello everyone.

Jessica Ho:

Hi. Well, thanks for being here, and so I'm going to be asking three Sunset Related trivia questions, each with three multiple choice answers, and since you guys are both police officers, I've decided to make this week's trivia questions very like police themed. So we'll see how that goes, and both you guys will answer as quickly as you can, and whoever gets the right answer wins a point, and whoever wins the most answer wins a point, and whoever wins the most points wins the game.

Jessica Ho:

Sound good, alright, okay, so Terrible Police Station's unique architecture. The Terrible Police Station is housed in a distinctive building that once served a different public function. What was the original purpose of this building? A post office, b library, c fire station.

Captain Hoo:

Benny's been at a terrible station way longer than I have. You should get this one B.

Jessica Ho:

B library. That is correct. Ding ding, ding. Good job, all right. So Benny gets one point. You okay if I call you that. Yes, okay, cool. Just want to make sure Community engagement initiatives. In an effort to strengthen community relations and address local concerns, the Terrible Police Station established a Community Police Advisory Board. How long ago was this CPAB established? A, 5 years, b, 11 years, c, 15 years.

Captain Hoo:

I would say C.

Jessica Ho:

C. What about you, Captain who?

Captain Hoo:

I'll go with A.

Jessica Ho:

Alright. Well, the answer is B, 11 years. So yeah, so CPAB been around for a little over a decade Before the establishment of the terrible police station which now oversees much of the Sunset District, or all of the Sunset District, as we talked about, which San Francisco police station originally had jurisdiction over the West Side neighborhood, a Mission Police Station, b Park Police Station or C Richmond Police Station.

Captain Hoo:

I would go with C. Yeah, I would go with C too. The answer is B Richmond Police Station. I would go with C. Yeah, I would go with C too.

Jessica Ho:

The answer is B Park Police Station. Wow, Wow.

Captain Hoo:

Great trivia questions.

Jessica Ho:

Yeah. So, Benny, I think you got one. You're up, Benny, you win. So if you've been following along, you know I started this podcast as part of a class project. The response that I've received has been amazing. I've even reached out to some people who are interested in starting their own podcasts in the Sunset District. So I'm, you know, foreshadowing might have them on, as well as guests, just to promote their own podcasts, which is great, because I think the more eyes on the sunset, the better. I want, you know, people to. You know the point.

Jessica Ho:

One of the reasons why I'm creating this podcast is to elevate the Sunset District as a critical or unique piece of San Francisco, where, when people think of San Francisco, they're not just thinking of downtown, they're not just thinking of, you know, the things that are touristy, but also the you know beauty and the quaintness and the idiosyncrasies of the Sunset District. Right, and finding what they love in the district, which, of course, is different for every person. But I think you know there's a lot here. There's a lot of diversity here, so maybe there's a place for everyone. I know I've got a lot to improve on, whether it's editing, sound quality or content, but you know I'm trying to make this a fun and valuable resource for the community, and I'm going to be aiming to release episodes bi-weekly so I can balance this with my real estate work, which some of you know.

Jessica Ho:

I recently started a real estate as well, selling homes to move to the sunset or explore in the sunset, finding places that are cool to hang out at or eat, or, you know, just enjoy the beach on a sunny day or, you know, we'll see how the park turns out right. So there's a lot to kind of enjoy out here. And so thanks so much to Captain Hu and Officer Liu for joining today's episode, and thank you, guys for listening. If you'd like to be a guest on the show or have a sunset story to share, please email me at jessicajasminho at gmailcom, which we will also be able to find in the show notes. And until next time, take care of yourself and take care of each other, because if you won't, who will? All right, that's all folks sounds right.

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