Grapple City Rewind
Taking you all the way back to the VHS era PPVs that shaped wrestling history. Created by Bradley Palermo & Aaron Fink.
Grapple City Rewind
All Sizzle, One Steak - WWF Summerslam 1992
In this episode of Grapple City Rewind, Bradley and Aaron hop across the pond to revisit SummerSlam 1992 from Wembley Stadium – a three-hour rollercoaster with one undeniable classic. From Legion of Doom’s puppet troubles and Hawk’s alleged chemical adventures, to Bret Hart carrying a coked-out British Bulldog in front of 80,000 rabid fans, we cover every bizarre promo, questionable gimmick, and Bobby Heenan zinger along the way. Plus, we start off in the present with a quick chat about SummerSlam 2025 and how today’s product stacks up against the nostalgia (and nonsense) of ‘92.
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00:00.24
Aaron
Okay.
00:00.83
Aaron
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00:17.48
Bradley Palermo
Hello and welcome to Grapple City Rewind, taking you all the way back to the iconic pay-per-views and television specials that shaped wrestling history.
00:30.02
Bradley Palermo
All right, Grapple City, pack your bags and gas up the hog with IcoPro, because today we are rewinding all the way back to August 1992. 80,000 screaming fans packed into Wembley Stadium and somehow it' allowed to and somehow the loudest noise of the night Wasn't the Macho Man snapping the ultimate wire like a Slim Jim. It was for a British dude with dreadlocks, pinning the best technical wrestler in the world, allegedly, while high on cocaine.
00:57.16
Bradley Palermo
Yep, it is SummerSlam 92. I'm Bradley Palermo, here, as always, with Aaron Fink and Aaron before we go back in time today. I think we should talk about this past weekend, because...
01:09.63
Bradley Palermo
It was the, in my opinion, mostly disappointing wrestling spectacular called SummerSlam 2025. How did you feel about it?
01:18.70
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
01:19.50
Bradley Palermo
Hopefully better than I did. and
01:20.59
Aaron
Well, first of all, is IcoPro fuel? is that Is that what you were talking about a minute ago? I didn't know what...
01:26.03
Bradley Palermo
Well, it's...
01:26.48
Aaron
what I'm so young, I don't know what IcoPro is.
01:26.77
Bradley Palermo
I go pro is just like a pre-workout and powder.
01:32.80
Aaron
Oh, is that what it is? Okay.
01:33.79
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah.
01:34.32
Aaron
i go Because I keep seeing it in all these old shows that we're watching. I'm like, what is this stuff?
01:39.44
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah. They had Lex Luger really pushing it for a while. But, yeah, I mean, they try to make you think they're all big because of IcoPro.
01:42.96
Aaron
Hmm. Hmm.
01:46.84
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, that's what it was.
01:47.01
Aaron
Yeah, that's definitely what it is. That's definitely what it is. Okay, so SummerSlam this past weekend. First two-night SummerSlam ever. um I thought that like from a business perspective, success for them.
02:01.27
Aaron
Yay, they made a bunch of money. They sold you know a bunch of tickets. But for me as a fan, I was mostly disappointed.
02:10.36
Bradley Palermo
yeah
02:10.76
Aaron
I think the two best matches of the weekend were the main events of both nights.
02:15.16
Bradley Palermo
Right.
02:15.87
Aaron
and uh even that is kind of i feel like i'm being generous because like i love punk i think everybody who's listening knows that we both love punk uh and i like gunther matches historically i've liked all of them this one felt a little sloppy to me like a lot of the time did you notice that also it just wasn't like
02:36.07
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
02:38.92
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I thought the production kind of sucked too. They had the cameras on the wrong side of the bumps.
02:44.07
Aaron
Hmm.
02:45.19
Bradley Palermo
So sometimes you'd see them like stomp each other's faces.
02:49.16
Aaron
Oh yeah, that stomp.
02:49.38
Bradley Palermo
a full fucking foot away right and then there were some punches that were bad uh yeah i mean overall i was a cool with the punk gunther thing i thought that getting swerved by rollins was kind of cool because i don't i didn't expect it and now we think we know everything all the time if they can trick us that's cool the the
02:51.57
Aaron
That stomp was really bad, though. Mm
03:09.30
Aaron
hmm.
03:10.51
Bradley Palermo
you know, the finishes on the other matches were kind of clean, not a lot of shenanigans. I was okay with that, but I mean, i have much more, i guess, to complain about than to praise um overall.
03:21.03
Bradley Palermo
I mean, ah and don't know if i if we should just go through it. I don't i don't want to sound...
03:24.74
Aaron
Yeah, we can go through some. No, let's do it. I want to talk about it. it i mean, it took up eight hours of our weekend. We should chat about it a little bit.
03:31.09
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think John Cena's face turn didn't have any, like, oomph behind it. It was just, hey i'm ah a babyface now.
03:39.72
Aaron
Well, it was damage control, right? they they if you i don't Did you watch any of WWE w e Unreal yet?
03:47.08
Bradley Palermo
No, and I really don't appreciate them making shows about how staged wrestling is and advertising it during during the fucking wrestling.
03:48.40
Aaron
So I'll just... i'll
03:54.44
Aaron
But see, that's the I.
03:58.17
Bradley Palermo
thing now you can do it, i preferably about the past, but don't push it to me while I'm trying to be immersed in the story.
03:59.62
Aaron
No, I know.
04:04.94
Bradley Palermo
I like to try to believe if I can, but go ahead.
04:07.59
Aaron
i understand that I totally do. I my opinion is that overall, the negative reaction to that show is an overreaction. And let me tell you why. I watched all five episodes the day came out, I binged the whole thing.
04:21.35
Bradley Palermo
Right.
04:21.66
Aaron
straight through. And honestly, there was maybe one or two things that I didn't know already. Like even the behind the scenes stuff, you and me already know this.
04:29.17
Bradley Palermo
right
04:33.30
Aaron
We're, you know, we are like, we're the types of fans that want to know. i I think you're this type of fan. I am the type of fan that likes to know as much as possible because it makes me appreciate it more.
04:43.55
Aaron
And I'm, okay with knowing the secrets because I can let them go. Some people can't let them go and that's fine.
04:48.46
Bradley Palermo
Right.
04:50.22
Aaron
But dude, all they talked about that was revealing was like, they, they talked about everyone in gorilla and they explained all their roles and you actually know who all of the producers and agents are.
04:57.79
Bradley Palermo
Right.
05:00.66
Aaron
And sometimes you see, you know, them on headset talking to the refs like, okay, fine.
05:01.14
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
05:05.68
Bradley Palermo
Right.
05:06.29
Aaron
I guess you reminded me about the fact that refs have earpieces and maybe that will take me out occasionally.
05:07.52
Bradley Palermo
It's interesting.
05:10.37
Bradley Palermo
Right.
05:12.05
Aaron
But like, that was it, dude. It was just,
05:13.48
Bradley Palermo
Right.
05:14.12
Aaron
It was just like a doc about WWE. WWE. So i think I think the hate was a little unjustified is' all I'm saying.
05:16.61
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think... I don't know about like the hate because to me, it's I don't know what I'm not seeing. i don't really i haven't seen anyone complain about it.
05:27.67
Bradley Palermo
But for me, that's my reaction. it's It's the same as like the YouTube thing like during WrestleMania. They're like, here's how we put together this bullshit. Watch it on YouTube. And I'm just like, don't do it while I'm trying to be immersed in it.
05:40.17
Bradley Palermo
Like a comedian who's like up there on stage, like, I know you've told this story before. But if you preface it with like, last time I told this joke, I did it a little bit different way. And then you're laughing at it and you're explaining. It's like, just tell me the joke. Make me feel like it's a natural conversation, even though I know you've rehearsed it.
05:57.16
Bradley Palermo
And like, make me laugh and don't take me out of this moment. And I, yeah, i don't know.
06:01.83
Aaron
But they're not... they're not i See, and I understand...
06:04.18
Bradley Palermo
They're advertising it during like SummerSlam.
06:06.12
Aaron
Yes, sure, maybe they shouldn't have advertised that during SummerSlam, but that's another argument that I keep hearing that I don't agree with.
06:07.19
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
06:13.52
Aaron
Like, they're not... Besides the example that you just gave, which i will I will agree is an example of what you're trying to say.
06:17.30
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
06:20.90
Aaron
i don't They're never going to be like the in the middle of a Raw like showing you a clip about something behind the scenes that you're about to see. like Everything that they covered in that show was from WrestleMania and beforehand.
06:33.73
Aaron
So it's already been three months.
06:33.87
Bradley Palermo
yeah
06:36.14
Aaron
I just... I don't know. Maybe I'm the type of fan that can let that shit go. i appreciate, like, I guess I'm a smart ass Mark, uh, because I can't be, I will never be in the industry.
06:45.59
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
06:48.28
Aaron
Most likely I do not have the physical attributes.
06:49.17
Bradley Palermo
Right.
06:52.15
Aaron
but maybe I could be in production and, ah you know, i so I like learning about these things. It makes me appreciate it more from a production standpoint.
06:57.14
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
07:00.44
Aaron
Cause that's part of my job. So like, all the organization and all the different things happening and all the communication. I found that to be really interesting. And it's to me, I can let it sit on its own and still watch the product and have the product just be the product, you know?
07:14.04
Bradley Palermo
Right, yeah.
07:14.25
Aaron
So I would say, give it a shot. I mean, honestly, if you watch the first hour long episode, you'll probably like 50 of the 55 minutes and maybe five minutes, you'll be like, well, I already knew this, but you probably didn't have to remind me.
07:27.30
Bradley Palermo
Right, it came on, I mean, I couldn't watch it because I was cutting hair, but in the background of the barbershop, you know, we we played something, some WWE w on Netflix, and then that came on.
07:37.26
Bradley Palermo
So I saw it throughout the day just without the sound and saw a little bit of Gorilla stuff. But I mean, I'm glad you liked it.
07:43.76
Aaron
I mean...
07:44.26
Bradley Palermo
It's just I just feel kind of weird about the whole thing. But I mean, I guess they have that like, what is that down to fuck show or whatever? DTF about how they.
07:51.81
Aaron
is that?
07:52.54
Bradley Palermo
Oh, let's fucking go or something.
07:55.00
Aaron
LFG. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:55.70
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah. That probably shows how they do everything, too.
07:57.09
Aaron
LFG.
07:58.50
Bradley Palermo
Right. Like.
07:59.08
Aaron
It honestly doesn't... I watched that show too. It doesn't show as much as you'd think. I mean, yeah, you see them talking about...
08:03.57
Bradley Palermo
Really?
08:05.46
Aaron
things that you don't normally see them talking about. But again, it's not stuff that's like, we're not fucking idiots, man. like I don't know.
08:13.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
08:14.68
Aaron
I just feel like you already know all this stuff. Sure. You don't need to be reminded of it on a constant basis, but the show is not constant. It's five episodes.
08:22.54
Bradley Palermo
Right.
08:23.40
Aaron
It's over. LFG is its own thing.
08:24.54
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
08:25.75
Aaron
It's not about any of the people that we see on wwe WWE TV. So I don't know. I just feel like people need to chill the fuck out. Like we live in an era where you're not going to be able to hide secrets anymore.
08:37.56
Aaron
Like even, you know, I can hear people use the, well, this is like a magician coming up on stage and saying, so that trick I just did, let me show you how I did it.
08:37.92
Bradley Palermo
Right.
08:47.45
Aaron
No one's going to fucking do that.
08:47.52
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, the un...
08:48.85
Aaron
Like, that that's not even what this is.
08:49.45
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
08:51.85
Aaron
It's like that, hey, remember that thing I did three months ago?
08:51.75
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
08:54.85
Aaron
Let me show you a little bit about how I did it.
08:57.07
Bradley Palermo
I mean, mean, yeah, I guess I just really... i want them to tell everything 30 30 years later, and while it's happening, I want you to shut the fuck up and stay in character.
09:07.60
Bradley Palermo
I want to know it's fake, but I don't want anyone to fucking wink at me, crack a smile. I want everyone to be exactly... it was supposed to be and i have a problem with half the wrestlers in the press scrum being in character and half of them not you know some people are willing to talk about i mean i didn't see this recent press scrum but like i don't know i guess i just i'm serious i wanted to be i want them to be serious about um i want to pretend like it's a real thing but i i guess i'm i don't know i guess there's that's all we can really say about that my
09:17.16
Aaron
Well, now, yeah.
09:21.38
Aaron
well that yeah
09:35.92
Aaron
Well, we we're living in an age where it's hard to do that. I don't disagree with you.
09:40.08
Bradley Palermo
well
09:41.26
Aaron
i don't i like i like that too. I just think that it's a it could it's maybe a little unrealistic for us to expect that all the time.
09:43.57
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
09:49.74
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
09:50.24
Aaron
AEW, you know, they they do a lot of wink, wink, nod, nod, but...
09:53.68
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
09:54.21
Aaron
But I will give them credit where like, yeah, when you're watching TV and you're watching that show, like there's very little like, ah, you know, there's very little breaking the fourth wall, cluing you in. It's just you're seeing ah traditional wrestling product.
10:07.10
Bradley Palermo
Well, before we started talking about you know the validity of Unreal, you were mentioning something about John Cena's face turn was damage control.
10:17.43
Bradley Palermo
what was What were you getting at there?
10:17.77
Aaron
Yes, so so and in Unreal, one of the things that they do go into in quite a bit of detail is that whole heel turn and the whole setup for Elimination Chamber.
10:28.13
Aaron
and what they're claiming is how things went down. So we we talked about this before where like Rock rock told McAfee on an interview that someone reached out to him and said, ticket sales for Elimination Chamber aren't what we're hoping and we'd really love to get you in for some kind of an appearance.
10:31.17
Bradley Palermo
OK.
10:47.19
Aaron
So that's what they went with in Unreal.
10:47.15
Bradley Palermo
Okay.
10:48.99
Aaron
And they they basically laid out how the whole thing with Sina came about. And it made it pretty clear that it was an idea that Rock and Brian Gortz had.
10:58.81
Aaron
And it wasn't completely their idea. The genesis of the idea was theirs. And then everyone at Creative kind of figured out a solution. And they came up with what they thought was the best thing. And so knowing that, and then watching his face turn on SmackDown this past Friday, he basically says in his promo, something to the effect of the people who are on my side left.
11:21.07
Aaron
And he's talking about the rock, you know, like he's so in the, in the promo, he's basically saying like, yeah, all that stuff.
11:21.02
Bradley Palermo
Right. I caught that.
11:27.67
Aaron
Let's just let that go. That was a mistake. This is who I am. And you know,
11:30.91
Bradley Palermo
And those fuckers don't even come around here anymore, so you can't, like, save anyone from...
11:34.08
Aaron
Yeah, and any and he talked shit about Travis Scott too, which was great. The crowd wanted that. So it was damage control.
11:39.09
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
11:40.40
Aaron
It was certainly not the smoothest way they could have gotten to where they needed to be. But I understand why they did it. So I'm kind of just like, all right, you know, I liked the match.
11:50.45
Aaron
I like Cena and, and, and
11:51.74
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
11:52.60
Aaron
it's a little long and there were two, there were a lot of botches like production botches this weekend. There was a, I remember Cena had like the railing, the metal railing thing.
11:59.51
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
12:04.66
Aaron
And he went to hit Cody and he like missed him by a foot. Like, and the angle of the camera was just directly perpendicular to them.
12:08.57
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
12:12.55
Aaron
So there was no way Even if he had gotten it perfectly, you still would have seen that they didn't make contact. Like there was just something off about whoever was calling the the camera shots this weekend.
12:19.88
Bradley Palermo
Dude, there was so much. like I mean, at one point, Jacob Fatu got handcuffed to the top of a steel cage and somehow escaped in a few seconds.
12:27.90
Aaron
Oh yeah. And we missed it.
12:30.38
Bradley Palermo
And the whole time, he's like holding his arm up to let like Solo or whoever, the but whatever Samoan, hook him up. And it's like, i don't know everything just looked so fucking bad.
12:40.94
Bradley Palermo
And I had non-wrestling fans watching with me. And they're just like laughing at it and making fun of it. And I'm like... you guys, this is a terrible event. Like this is not how it usually is. Like, what do you mean? It's stupid.
12:50.40
Bradley Palermo
It's wrestling. And i'm like, no, there is much better wrestling.
12:52.23
Aaron
Yeah.
12:53.44
Bradley Palermo
Like it's not all stupid.
12:54.20
Aaron
Yeah.
12:55.35
Bradley Palermo
There is shit that is really well done. And WWE sometimes does it really well. But I mean, Lyra zip ties falling off close up on camera and then her putting himself back in it was just like shameful.
13:01.87
Aaron
Oh, yeah.
13:07.15
Aaron
hmm. Mm hmm.
13:08.50
Bradley Palermo
You know, fucking.
13:09.36
Aaron
It was just a strange weekend, you know, like.
13:11.26
Bradley Palermo
It was weird.
13:12.32
Aaron
bad bad botches on production bad botches in the ring um um and then the crowd wasn't miked very well i know here i go with the audio stuff again but they didn't sound into it
13:12.36
Bradley Palermo
I do.
13:20.50
Bradley Palermo
the crowd sounded, the crowd, I didn't even hear like a coy Cody, Cody Rhodes, you know, it's like any of that shit. I mean, part of it's,
13:29.24
Aaron
the becky lyra match dude they were like cheering about other things they were doing the wave
13:34.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. And did they have the phones out for that one where they were just like shining the phones? Oh, wait, that was I was like, they they they must be bored.
13:40.16
Aaron
No.
13:41.75
Bradley Palermo
They're like fucking around with their phones.
13:43.02
Aaron
Was that Dom and AJ maybe?
13:43.24
Bradley Palermo
and Oh, maybe it was.
13:45.88
Aaron
I don't know.
13:45.82
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think it was. Yeah.
13:47.28
Aaron
Yeah.
13:48.36
Aaron
It was a weird weekend.
13:48.43
Bradley Palermo
Lyra Lyra needs to go back to i just I don't see any charisma with her and her fighting Becky over and over. It's like not putting her over. I don't think I think Jade Cargill.
13:57.60
Aaron
Well, this was this was just such a bad that this was their worst match.
14:00.53
Bradley Palermo
Dude,
14:01.73
Aaron
This Becky Lyra match was the worst one they've had, and they've had four now.
14:03.86
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. There's so many. And that's, I feel like a lot of these matches I've already seen, even like Karrion Kross, Sammy, we just saw one.
14:11.98
Aaron
hmm.
14:12.33
Bradley Palermo
I gotta say, dude, Jade Cargill, it's been seven years. She's 33 years old. Like it ain't going to happen. Like she's, she's just not a great wrestler.
14:21.45
Aaron
So Bully said something very interesting on busted open this morning that I was like, oh, makes a lot of sense.
14:26.100
Aaron
He was like, OK, so in the in the. Dominic versus AJ match, who's leading AJ?
14:36.11
Bradley Palermo
Mm-hmm. The veteran usually does, right?
14:37.02
Aaron
in in the Tiffany Stratton versus Jade match, who's leading?
14:41.51
Bradley Palermo
Tiffy, right?
14:42.38
Aaron
Tiffy has one more year than Jade does though. so that's so like So basically what he was implying by that question is neither of them were leading the match.
14:45.20
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
14:51.07
Aaron
They were going through their planned, rehearsed, you know like they were they had memorized the match.
14:53.42
Bradley Palermo
Oh, right. Yeah. Hardcore.
14:57.26
Aaron
They weren't being open to the flow of the of the match.
14:57.12
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
15:02.44
Bradley Palermo
Um,
15:03.10
Aaron
Also, it seven minutes, dude. How can you... how can you i've now i don't know that I've ever seen a seven-minute match where I was like, oh yeah, that was dope. you know They're all like, huh.
15:11.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it's just everything she does is very like, it's almost like kind of slow motion. And like, it's yeah you're you're like cringing, like, can you pull this one off?
15:15.53
Aaron
Mechanical.
15:19.27
Bradley Palermo
Can you make it look good? And then it's like, it I mean, the indies look a lot better than Jay Cargill. So I mean, she just looks fucking awesome physique wise. And everybody wants to do something with this person that looks incredible.
15:32.83
Bradley Palermo
uh just muscular i don't know after seven years dude she what is she gonna be get it by the time she's 40 i mean it's like you know there's only a few years left yeah
15:33.18
Aaron
She'll get it. She's getting better, I think. I don't know.
15:40.42
Aaron
She needs more reps. <unk> sort She certainly needs more reps. I don't know. it It was a messy weekend.
15:47.16
Aaron
The best matches of the night were Punk vs. Gunther, Cody vs. Cena. The cash-in by Rollins was fun, although... To me, it was like a coin flip. It was like, yeah, he's i there either they've either been pulling pulling the wool over our eyes about this injury or it's not going to happen.
16:03.05
Aaron
and And it happened.
16:03.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
16:04.41
Aaron
So it was fun. Night two surprise, though. Can we just talk about this for a minute before we get into SummerSlam?
16:08.93
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
16:10.76
Aaron
Man, i was so thrilled with the end of that pay-per-view, with Cena passing the torch to Cody, with you know with just like the because everyone was booing Cody, and then at the end of the match, Cena gave him the belt, and the crowd was like, all right, we won't boo him anymore, and they cheered him.
16:26.87
Bradley Palermo
yeah
16:27.57
Aaron
And then you have fucking... Brock Lesnar come out. And i as as a character in WWE, wwe love Brock.
16:31.47
Bradley Palermo
yeah.
16:35.55
Aaron
As a human being who was named in a lawsuit about sex trafficking, don't love that they picked him to come back. I know that... He is only named.
16:45.51
Aaron
He's not accused of anything. He's not a part of the lawsuit directly, but he was, his name is mentioned a lot of times with regards to things that if true are very, very bad.
16:56.78
Aaron
So I'm, I'm,
16:57.06
Bradley Palermo
yeah
17:16.38
Bradley Palermo
Right.
17:23.25
Aaron
being a wrestling fan. We should be abstaining from this type of shit and instead.
17:24.47
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
17:27.26
Bradley Palermo
There's a lot of things adding up. And I know with wrestling, you kind of have to you know turn a blind eye to some of the politics and and things like that with some of these people. But like there's a lot adding up. I'm a little frustrated with this weekend and like some of that political angling and and over you know love the love for Hulk Hogan, who obviously would like to call people the N-word and bust up unions and all kinds of other shit.
17:53.05
Bradley Palermo
i part of me is like feels like i don't even want to watch wwe this week like i'm pretty bummed on the shit you know and it's like i was like umm i'm happy we we're watching our podcast is about old shit nostalgic stuff primarily because i don't know i don't know maybe i kind of just want to watch like
18:00.46
Aaron
Oh,
18:11.49
Bradley Palermo
aw for a minute and until that gets old and then see how I feel because I don't know they're they're bean counting and triple h coming out in his suit always talking about how much fucking money you get and I have to pay this money you know when you keep upping your tickets and stuff I'm tired of him tired of the way the company behaves I'm tired of that Trump shit I'm tired of all the the whatever the weird sex shit but go ahead
18:22.46
Aaron
oh
18:32.36
Aaron
You just reminded me that this weekend was the first weekend that they stopped having press conferences.
18:38.47
Bradley Palermo
did they really
18:39.58
Aaron
Yeah. And I mean, well, and also think about the timing.
18:40.74
Bradley Palermo
That must be why i didn't see it. Yeah.
18:43.100
Aaron
He just met Trump at the White House. They just brought Brock back and they canceled their press conferences.
18:50.57
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. So I don't know.
18:52.60
Aaron
I'm i it's.
18:53.61
Bradley Palermo
I, I'm not pleased with them right now.
18:56.75
Aaron
Yeah.
18:56.70
Bradley Palermo
Honestly. Yeah.
18:57.44
Aaron
Somebody said something online that I don't think would be true, but they said, you know, ah if you look at this suspiciously, the way that they've been behaving the last six, eight months, it's like they're testing the waters to bring, to bring somebody big back.
19:11.03
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
19:13.47
Aaron
And there's only one person you could bring back. And if they bring Vince back, I'd be, I'm out.
19:15.57
Bradley Palermo
Oh my God.
19:18.73
Aaron
I mean that straight up.
19:19.21
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
19:20.82
Aaron
I was not watching when he was in charge.
19:23.39
Bradley Palermo
It was bad. It got real bad towards the end, especially support.
19:25.34
Aaron
Not only was the product bad, but I was not going to support him. Yeah, I mean, ah like, he's a piece of shit.
19:30.70
Bradley Palermo
No.
19:33.61
Aaron
ah ah you' He's done amazing things for wrestling, but that you gotta draw the line somewhere.
19:38.08
Bradley Palermo
He's like a hundred years old. I mean, what are you going to bring him back for? i don't, i don't, I wouldn't, I will, no one said they would, but I guess I understand why you.
19:41.82
Aaron
I don't fucking know. No, I know. But the thing is, if he came back, you know there'd be... fucking troglodytes in the crowd doing the bowing down thing and like popping super hard as as soon as no chance in hell starts playing like it's i've been i've been reminded of the country that we live in how about that let's just put it that way
19:50.21
Bradley Palermo
Oh yeah.
19:55.24
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. I mean, it's something.
20:00.82
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Did I tell you a money had money? What was it? My money in the bank? I was in the third third row, like booing the national anthem.
20:06.17
Aaron
yeah you got accosted
20:10.77
Aaron
I didn't know that you did that.
20:11.95
Bradley Palermo
Oh my God.
20:12.27
Aaron
I remember you being accosted outside.
20:12.54
Bradley Palermo
People are getting in my face being like, oh, my dad served in the Iraq war. and was like, I served on it on the other side. You know, i'm just like fucking with them, you know?
20:22.56
Aaron
You're such a troll, dude. My God. i yeah All right. what do What do you say we get into the to the rewind?
20:29.72
Bradley Palermo
All right. Why don't you set it up for us? This was your call, Aaron.
20:34.67
Aaron
Smile, baby.
20:34.54
Bradley Palermo
Good one.
00:01.02
Bradley Palermo
All right, start us off.
00:02.58
Aaron
Okay.
00:04.88
Aaron
All right. So we're talking about SummerSlam 1992. This is August 29th of 1992. It was in London, England at Wembley Stadium. Attendance is listed at 78,927. I don't know if I believe that because they tend to inflate those numbers, but you just have to watch the pay-per-view and you can tell there's a lot of people.
00:26.55
Aaron
This is a big deal. um The United Kingdom had not had a lot of WWF shows. They'd had house shows and things, but certainly not a pay-per-view as big as SummerSlam.
00:37.95
Aaron
So this was huge. It meant a lot to them. And um it was during a period of time, the early, early 1992, we had, let's see who was on commentary.
00:50.33
Aaron
Oh yeah, this was this was Bobby the Brain, our favorite, and our not so favorite, Vince McMahon.
00:53.72
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:56.46
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:57.00
Aaron
um But we we also had some fun interviewers. My favorite of the people that we had was Lord Alfred Hayes, who I've always heard, you know, some people talk about him, but I don't think I've watched a lot of things with him.
01:04.91
Bradley Palermo
yeah
01:11.12
Aaron
He is stiff and British as hell.
01:11.26
Bradley Palermo
yeah
01:14.62
Aaron
And he was a terrible, terrible ah interviewer. But like, I just kept finding myself laughing at him. Do you remember him in this?
01:22.65
Bradley Palermo
Not really. I mean, i was he part of that intro where they're interviewing the kids?
01:24.44
Aaron
He's just like, i'm lord no I'm Lord Alfred Hayes.
01:26.17
Bradley Palermo
and mr Yeah, yeah.
01:27.88
Aaron
I'm outside of the ultimate warrior's dressing room.
01:30.85
Bradley Palermo
Oh, right. That guy.
01:31.73
Aaron
I'm going to knock.
01:31.77
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
01:33.46
Aaron
I'm not going to knock that.
01:33.99
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Did you see in the intro, like, there's all of this weird, like, kids with Ultimate Warrior face and stuff?
01:42.24
Aaron
Oh, the Brits, yeah.
01:42.78
Bradley Palermo
Like, I think that Mr. Perfect will be in the Macho Man's corner. And then, think he'll be in...
01:52.96
Aaron
Yes.
01:52.99
Bradley Palermo
Like, okay. It was a really weird way to end it.
01:54.10
Aaron
They, they, it was, yeah, because there was like, it wasn't even like, I don't think there was any like, all right, it's SummerSlam.
01:56.33
Bradley Palermo
Scotland Yard the funny hats.
02:02.09
Aaron
It was just I think it just opened and it started with interviews of kids on the street. Yeah. With like cockney accents.
02:06.34
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
02:07.59
Aaron
You can't even understand what they're saying.
02:09.21
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
02:09.33
Aaron
Yeah.
02:10.07
Bradley Palermo
And Heenan declares himself Sir Bobby King of England, which I don't know.
02:13.58
Aaron
Yes, yes, bobby Bobby was on one again in this one.
02:15.05
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
02:17.28
Bradley Palermo
yeah
02:18.17
Aaron
There were so many good ones. I forgot to write them down until i think the main event, so I will i will call out my favorite Bobby the Brain-isms when we get there.
02:29.34
Aaron
But ah yeah, so the ah the big selling point behind this match was the main event, which was the Intercontinental Championship match between Bret Hart and the British Bulldog.
02:40.83
Bradley Palermo
Cool.
02:41.01
Aaron
And I did some reading and I can't remember who it was, but British Bulldog was not originally the person that Bret was supposed to have a feud against. But when they confirmed that it that SummerSlam was going to be in London and England,
02:56.36
Aaron
They did some reworking and and so they made it Brett and British Bulldog as opposed to Brett and whoever else it was going to be. um So the first match of the evening ah was the Legion of Doom, Hawk and Animal, the Road Warriors with Paul Ellering.
03:13.31
Aaron
And they were wrestling Money Inc., which is Ted DiBiase and IRS Erwin R. Shyster, who were accompanied by Jimmy Hart.
03:21.17
Bradley Palermo
Oh, Paul Ellering was not the only person with Legion of Doom.
03:21.44
Aaron
And what?
03:25.85
Bradley Palermo
They also had Rocco the puppet. We can't forget about Rocco.
03:28.57
Aaron
They did have Rocco the puppet. Yes, that is true. ah This is not our first time seeing the Road Warriors slash Legion of Doom. It's not our first time seeing Money, Inc. ah This is a very iconic entrance for the Road Warriors because they ride in on motorcycles.
03:46.85
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
03:46.99
Aaron
And I feel like I've seen this image so many times before, especially when I was watching as a youngster in the late 90s. And um enjoyable match. Nothing spectacular. Crowd was interested.
04:02.78
Aaron
What did you think?
04:04.17
Bradley Palermo
So this, this match is famous for, um Hawk being super strung out on drugs and, and basically sort of the beginning of the end for of Legion to doom.
04:11.78
Aaron
Mmm.
04:16.19
Bradley Palermo
I mean, I guess they'd be reunited later, but, um, Hawk was either inebriated or, or just, you know, over it from doing all the drugs and shit.
04:18.69
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
04:26.88
Bradley Palermo
So animal kind of, um,
04:32.20
Bradley Palermo
Well, Bret Hart, yeah, Bret Hart was quoted as saying Hawk was fed up.
04:33.66
Aaron
Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
04:37.96
Bradley Palermo
Animal looked like he was dragging a corpse around.
04:41.11
Aaron
hmm yeah yeah
04:41.62
Bradley Palermo
Hawk said Vince had us riding with a fucking puppet. and That was an LOD. an animal joe lower nidas he said we had that puppet with us rocko vince thought it was hilarious we did not um so it's it's kind of i guess hawks had was done with the ww w well he said it and right there but um he at one point he did a clothesline off the top rope and totally missed and just laid there like dead weight so knowing that he was fucked up on this match you could kind of see it you know
04:56.56
Aaron
yep that that tracks yeah
05:17.11
Aaron
Yeah, I didn't know that he was, and now and i kind of want to go watch it again.
05:21.35
Bradley Palermo
yeah if you watch old like i think there was a was there dark side of the room dark side of the ring on legion of doom i think they highlighted this match as sort of being one of the the down points um but yeah i mean irs cut is famous or his you know usual you're all tax cheap promos which is kind of weird because like the internal revenue is for the united states not england um
05:21.67
Aaron
But also I feel bad.
05:28.88
Aaron
I think there was, yeah. Road Warriors. Mm-mm.
05:42.07
Aaron
yeah
05:48.32
Aaron
Yes, I did. I actually was thinking about that. Like, why is IRS harassing these Brits about taxes?
05:55.57
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, but um Animal pins Diviase after a power slam for a clean win. Overall, it was one of the more noteworthy matches.
06:06.67
Bradley Palermo
That and like the final one. And the middle here gets a little thin for me, but... Oh,
06:12.25
Aaron
Yeah, me too. um are Our second match of the evening was Nails ah versus Virgil. And I had to look up Nails. I did not know who the hell that was.
06:24.20
Bradley Palermo
oh yeah.
06:24.47
Aaron
And then when I did, i was like, oh, it was what was his name? Kevin Kelly. Yeah. I don't know why I knew him as Kevin Kelly, but oh, he must have worked.
06:38.45
Aaron
Yeah, it was Mr. Magnificent.
06:41.90
Bradley Palermo
I think, so Nails um didn't last very long in the WWE wwe because he is he he shut the door and beat the shit out of Vince McMahon.
06:42.11
Aaron
That's right.
06:52.53
Aaron
Oh, is that who this is?
06:54.41
Bradley Palermo
He had somebody watch the door and yeah, he assaulted Vince McMahon. So that i mean that'll get you out of the WWF pretty quickly.
07:01.72
Aaron
Real quick.
07:02.00
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
07:02.32
Aaron
Yeah. Yeah. This was, I mean, this was like a nothing burger of a match. It was four minutes long.
07:06.04
Bradley Palermo
yeah
07:08.19
Aaron
Uh, Virgil, you know, Virgil was over. I mean, like the crowd liked Virgil, but nail their reaction to nails was just dead silence and it was a very forgettable match.
07:19.30
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, and there was there were some promos in there too. I guess we the thread on this is that we don't know if Mr.
07:23.48
Aaron
Hmm.
07:26.07
Bradley Palermo
Perfect will be in Randy Savage or the Ultimate Warriors corner. I don't know why it matters. um I guess maybe I wasn't too caught up on the rest of the storyline, the TV episodes.
07:37.15
Aaron
i Yeah, they had been teasing. They've been talking about it. I mean, the one nice thing about, excuse me, about this match that you're talking about, the WWF championship match, is they did have like a pretty large package, video package, to kind of catch you up on what we had missed.
07:51.43
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
07:52.14
Aaron
But it it doesn't really help ah all ah for all the promos that you like you're talking about now, where it's like, okay, so we don't know whose side he's going to be on, but why does it really matter what side he's going to be on?
08:03.37
Bradley Palermo
Right. There was a promo with Mean Gene, Ric Flair before this match. And then they there's ongoing um interest with what Sir Alfred, whatever the fuck, I think was i think he was knocking on doors after this match.
08:13.96
Aaron
Lord Alfred Hayes, yes.
08:17.47
Aaron
He was, yes. I'm going to enter the ultimate warrior's dressing room, but I'm not going to knock.
08:24.04
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
08:25.20
Aaron
That's what...
08:26.03
Bradley Palermo
I was like, you guys, come on. like I don't, I don't care about this, but you know,
08:29.84
Aaron
Yeah, they they definitely made something out of nothing here. um And then and then we got our first match where I was like, oh, OK, yeah, like I'm kind of interested to see what this is going to be.
08:43.38
Aaron
It was Rick Mertel versus Shawn Michaels with Sensational Sherry in the corner of Shawn Michaels.
08:46.21
Bradley Palermo
yeah.
08:49.11
Aaron
But. there The story that had been happening in weeks prior is that, I guess, Rick Martel had caught the eye of Sensational Sherry, or maybe it was vice versa, and they had kind of been flirting.
09:02.45
Aaron
ah And this was going to be sort of the grudge match between Rick Martel and Shawn Michaels to figure out, you know, who who who is going to win Sherry's affections. But Sherry was very, very quick to say that there was one stipulation of the match, which was that they could not hit each other in the face.
09:19.77
Aaron
which made me laugh.
09:19.76
Bradley Palermo
they're too pretty. Mm-hmm.
09:21.11
Aaron
They're too pretty. And also, you know, this might just be a coincidence, but Sherry's last name is Martell and Rick Martell is a part of this thing.
09:29.03
Bradley Palermo
Oh.
09:30.94
Aaron
I was like, are they, were they like related or like married? And they weren't, it's just like a coincidence that they both happened to have the last name Martell in wrestling in storyline.
09:36.22
Bradley Palermo
Oh, wow.
09:40.50
Bradley Palermo
ah yeah
09:41.69
Aaron
um
09:41.71
Bradley Palermo
This match sucked though. I mean, they didn't fucking do it.
09:43.30
Aaron
It did kind of suck. Yeah.
09:44.37
Bradley Palermo
I mean you have Shawn Michaels. You'd think it'd be something, but it's not. It's just a comedy act. And I think...
09:50.03
Aaron
Yeah, it was pretty bad. and And two heels like the crowd, you know, I think they again, the only pops I heard were for like the butt. Like, oh we saw their butt.
09:59.01
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah. I guess there's like a big wardrobe malfunction for the time for her ass to be exposed, but I don't know.
10:08.88
Aaron
No, it wasn't her. at No, Sean. Like, you know, they pulled Sean's tights down. They pulled Rick's tights down.
10:14.44
Bradley Palermo
I think, wasn't there like a gaffe where you could see her when she fell down too much of her or something?
10:20.94
Aaron
Oh, no no, I think it was just that her whole ass was cut out of her pants. like you just Her just cheeks were just hanging out of the pants.
10:24.53
Bradley Palermo
Oh, I see. oh right, right, right.
10:27.91
Aaron
It was like it's like she was wearing assless chaps almost.
10:30.55
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
10:31.30
Aaron
But I could just i could just hear 1992 Vin, show him your ass. ah ah It'll be real funny.
10:38.75
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. um
10:40.26
Aaron
Chicks love it.
10:41.86
Bradley Palermo
sherry faints during the match vince is like does she have a heart attack or what you know it's just they wake her up with a bucket of water they're taking turns carrying her out of the ring they but they get a double count fucking around with all this shit i mean count out's really never a satisfying finish and this was just slapstick comedy bullshit really
10:55.16
Aaron
Yeah, it was.
11:03.28
Aaron
Yeah, because like and you know, it's so this is actually making me think about something that I don't know that we've ever discussed before, which is the I think a big difference in um old pay-per-views and maybe maybe it's just WWF and like other companies yeah It could kind of be old WCW too. When you watch an AEW pay-per-view now in 2025, it's very self-contained, right? Like you'll get your little package, but everything that you need to know and like all of the stories that are being told, they tend to end in the pay-per-view.
11:40.27
Aaron
And I think that's something that I'm noticing about all of these ones that we're watching in the past is that this match, for example, extremely unsatisfying ending.
11:40.35
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
11:50.88
Aaron
But that clearly means that it was kind the story had to keep going somewhere.
11:54.64
Bradley Palermo
Right.
11:55.65
Aaron
And so like that's what ah I feel like a lot of the time when we don't like matches, A, they're so they're short or they're shitty or whatever. But B, like not having all the context of what happens before or after, I feel like, is really difficult when we're watching something like this, as opposed to, you know, you watched we watched all in a couple of weeks ago and like everything ended and you're like, okay, I have resolution on all of these storylines.
12:21.19
Bradley Palermo
Right.
12:24.06
Aaron
Whereas with this, it's like, there's no resolution at all with this.
12:24.46
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
12:27.77
Aaron
So how are you expecting me to like be happy that there was a double count out?
12:27.83
Bradley Palermo
I also think...
12:32.03
Bradley Palermo
I also think sometimes, I mean, it's hard to generalize all of it, but it feels like in the WWE was kind of... Everything was sort of setting up the main There was a lot of cartoon bullshit waiting to get there. WCW...
12:51.81
Bradley Palermo
seemed like whether they intended to or not play it was more shitty like real bad main events with old WWF guys and the preliminary matches were like kind of killer so it was like WCW has the good card bad main event WWF was sort of the opposite I thought I mean just to generalize you know
13:03.01
Aaron
F guys, yeah.
13:07.25
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
13:16.02
Aaron
Yeah, no, for sure. And then like nowadays with WWE w e premium live events, I feel like they do a really good job of of setting you up for the match, letting you know what's transpired, leading you up to it.
13:29.68
Aaron
And it's still probably like a coin toss at this point as to whether that match at that PLE will end or progress further.
13:37.70
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
13:37.72
Aaron
But I feel like it just they feel really well contained, like Evolution, for example, which I still think is the best WWE pay-per-view of the year. Like every match felt satisfying, had a conclusion where you're like, okay, a chapter of this story has ended.
13:50.52
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
13:52.43
Aaron
Now we are moving on to the next chapter or this book has closed and now we'll have to wait and see what's next for this person.
13:56.14
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
13:59.24
Bradley Palermo
Right.
13:59.35
Aaron
And this match was like, okay, so nothing has happened. It's a double count on nobody has an advantage.
14:05.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
14:07.18
Aaron
Sherry still has the hots for both of them. So I'm assuming it gets brought up later, but uninspiring, uninteresting.
14:13.22
Bradley Palermo
Right. I'm definitely not interested in what happened after that either.
14:15.85
Aaron
Not at all.
14:16.15
Bradley Palermo
But um match four is the Beverly brothers, Bo and Blake Beverly with the genius versus the natural disasters, earthquake and typhoon.
14:16.93
Aaron
Yeah.
14:24.87
Bradley Palermo
Or as Bobby, the brain, he and said buffoon for the WWF tag team championship. Natural disasters were the title holders.
14:35.14
Bradley Palermo
Beverly brothers were the challengers.
14:37.28
Aaron
Who the hell are the Beverly Brothers? Like I've never heard of these guys.
14:39.32
Bradley Palermo
Oh, I remember um I was like short lived sort of tag team mid card guys. Oh,
14:45.96
Aaron
Don't think I've ever seen the a natural disasters match. So I at least appreciated that I got to see one um because I saw that Typhoon, whoever is still alive, was inducted in the Hall of Fame this past year.
14:50.07
Bradley Palermo
oh oh, yeah. Yeah.
14:57.87
Bradley Palermo
yeah
14:59.83
Aaron
Yeah.
15:00.09
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, Typhoon, who's also Tugboat, I believe, for a while.
15:01.62
Aaron
yeah
15:04.04
Bradley Palermo
um Yeah, I mean, they're two two big old fat guys, sumo wrestling types.
15:04.79
Aaron
That's right.
15:10.01
Bradley Palermo
I think maybe Earthquake was sumo.
15:12.09
Aaron
Yeah, I think he was.
15:12.40
Bradley Palermo
um And they would, you know... jump on people with their weight and that would fuck you up they have a lot of weight um the genius came out uh randy savage's brother um yeah
15:18.52
Aaron
They have a lot of weight to jump on you with. Yeah.
15:28.57
Aaron
Oh, is that who that was? Is that Lanny? Oh my god, I didn't know that was Lanny.
15:32.57
Bradley Palermo
yeah ah yeah he always would read like a pretentious really crap poem was sort of his gimmick it's just kind of funny um right before we went on i tried to find the exact poem so i could read it but i i was like i don't know there's i can't find it but it was bad and i think the beverly brothers were cheating using his metal scroll where his poem was written on yeah um
15:39.68
Aaron
Amazing. That's funny.
15:55.88
Aaron
They did, yeah. Yeah, yeah this this was another one where I was like unimpressed, but happy that I got to see that the natural disasters in a match.
16:04.99
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
16:06.65
Aaron
I'm sure there are much better ones, or maybe there aren't. Maybe every one of their matches is like this. But yeah, not not not my fave.
16:11.78
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. hold All I really remember from back then is more of the pop pomp and circumstance. So I'm like, oh, earthquake.
16:16.99
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
16:18.39
Bradley Palermo
He jumps around the room and makes a bunch of noise. you know so when he hits the splash, you you know like it's big.
16:20.59
Aaron
Yeah.
16:23.35
Aaron
You're like, oh yeah.
16:23.59
Bradley Palermo
it's a lot of weight.
16:24.40
Aaron
Yeah.
16:24.98
Bradley Palermo
um That's all I really remembered from back in the day. But yeah, it was like it wasn't that. It was a 10-minute match. But the natural disasters were able to retain. And they were also able to fuck up old, what's his name? Lanny?
16:39.38
Aaron
Lanny Paffo.
16:39.86
Bradley Palermo
Post-match. Yeah, so they fucked up the genius afterwards.
16:41.14
Aaron
Yeah.
16:43.35
Bradley Palermo
And then we got like a, we didn't get a Bushwhackers match, but we got the Bushwhackers doing a promo about Mr.
16:47.86
Aaron
Promo. Yeah, they did a backstage promo.
16:50.17
Bradley Palermo
Perfect's alignment. And I was thinking, you know, this was like, you know, whatever it was 30 years ago, but like the Bushwhackers were older than everybody.
17:02.19
Bradley Palermo
Those guys were old as fuck.
17:02.41
Aaron
Yeah.
17:03.43
Bradley Palermo
They were like late 40s.
17:03.85
Aaron
I also forgot they were fucking Kiwis.
17:05.57
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
17:07.27
Aaron
I did not.
17:07.67
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
17:08.33
Aaron
I never remembered that they had accents.
17:10.33
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
17:10.45
Aaron
And when they started talking, I was like, oh, wow, I can't understand anything they're saying. And they're just, you know, doing their fucking they're like, the if anyone was high on cocaine in this pay-per-view, it's probably those guys.
17:15.24
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
17:17.88
Bradley Palermo
yeah Yeah. When they're not talking, they kind of swing their arms up at their fists, like up and down like Donkey Kong and nod their head up and down.
17:25.63
Aaron
Yeah. Yeah.
17:29.79
Bradley Palermo
And they got fucking fucked up teeth and shit. Yeah.
17:32.75
Aaron
It's a, it's a sight to behold. i do remember them as a kid, but I, I don't remember much about them. So, so this is another thing where i was like, Oh, I know these guys.
17:39.68
Bradley Palermo
yeah
17:42.05
Aaron
Oh, I did not remember that these guys were like this.
17:44.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah. And then in match five, we get, um, repo man versus crush. Um, Barry Darcel.
17:53.72
Aaron
Another one where I was like, who the fuck is Repo Man? And I had to go look online and then realize, oh, they're talking about Crusher Crusher, which like that's how i remember him from the 80s, you know.
18:02.55
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. It's weird that he's he was Crusher and and he's going against a guy named Crush. But the weirder thing is Repo Man and Crush were both in demolition like a year before this.
18:15.83
Bradley Palermo
And here they are pretending like these tag team partners
18:16.15
Aaron
ah wow.
18:19.62
Aaron
Mm hmm.
18:20.02
Bradley Palermo
are fucking not who they used to be and have nothing to do with um demolition.
18:25.82
Aaron
Genius.
18:26.69
Bradley Palermo
They're just leaving that out.
18:27.03
Aaron
Fitz is a genius.
18:27.81
Bradley Palermo
Like we're stupid. Yeah. um So Bret Hart actually said, there's a Bret Hart ah quote too.
18:31.46
Aaron
Yeah. This is another crap match.
18:37.06
Bradley Palermo
I pulled over a bunch of Bret Hart stuff, ah but he said that fans weren't stupid, but WWE pretended these two had never met.
18:37.53
Aaron
Oh, okay. Yeah.
18:42.89
Bradley Palermo
So basically just what I said.
18:43.29
Aaron
Yeah.
18:44.53
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. What were going to say?
18:45.35
Aaron
Yeah. Loves.
18:46.59
Bradley Palermo
I cut you off the dumb match.
18:47.65
Aaron
Oh, I don't know. I just, uh, is it, is a bad match and Vince loves to insult his audience's intelligence in the nineties.
18:53.93
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
18:54.10
Aaron
Uh, this, um, I mean, crush was over with the crowd. Like that was the thing, right? We've seen a lot of crush cause we've watched a lot of things in the 92, 93, 94.
19:04.52
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
19:04.82
Aaron
Even I think he, I think he was even around like in the, in the mid nineties stuff that we watched, but he just like never became ah big name. Like he was always just around and the crowd liked him.
19:13.43
Bradley Palermo
Right.
19:15.45
Aaron
I feel like he was just for the kids, you know?
19:17.44
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
19:17.54
Aaron
Oh, he's got bright colors. He's tall. He smashes people's head.
19:19.81
Bradley Palermo
big blonde Hawaiian. I guess he's supposed to be Hawaiian. He's got, he's got like, yeah, I guess he does.
19:24.30
Aaron
i think he is Hawaiian.
19:26.45
Bradley Palermo
He's got like a weird accent in his promos. I guess it's Hawaiian. He just looks like a white guy to me. So I guess you can be white and Hawaiian, but, um, uh, but yeah.
19:36.02
Aaron
It was over before, almost before it began with Crush defeating Repo Man with his, i don't even know, he like squish squashes his skull, you know?
19:38.68
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
19:45.15
Bradley Palermo
The cranium crunch.
19:45.62
Aaron
The Crusher! Cranium Crunch, yeah.
19:47.69
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, which is, a I guess you'd call that a head vice, but five minutes and 41 seconds, we got out of there. And then we got into a promo that was longer than the match about which fucking side is Flair and Perfect going to be on you know So i was I was kind of over that a long time ago, and they're still talking about it.
20:10.52
Aaron
I mean, it just, yeah, it took a while. And then, like I was saying earlier, we got a very long package queuing us up about the ongoing feud between Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man, or really more specifically, the feud between Macho Man and Ric Flair that kind of spilled into this.
20:30.13
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
20:30.22
Aaron
Because like, I guess if I'm remembering correctly, 92 was the Royal Rumble that Flair wins the belt, right?
20:37.14
Bradley Palermo
Because wire to wire, right? Yeah.
20:40.17
Aaron
Yeah, and and that and that Royal Rumble, I think, is for the championship.
20:40.77
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
20:43.62
Aaron
It's like the only one.
20:43.79
Bradley Palermo
yeah yeah Yeah. You're right.
20:44.94
Aaron
So he was the champion earlier this year, and then I guess he must have lost it to Macho Man.
20:45.02
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
20:48.70
Aaron
So it makes sense that they were kind of trying to keep Flair involved with Macho Man, but... Um, again, like we were saying, all of the stuff leading up to this didn't really matter. And then they showed this, this recap video and I'm like, Oh, okay. So now I see why it matters a little bit, but he even then I'm like, yeah, I don't know. These guys are, you know, ultimate warrior and macho man are both baby faces at the time.
21:14.23
Aaron
Like, I just don't, it doesn't really make sense why one of these baby faces would have hired a heel. um So it kind of just felt like they were creating something out of nothing, trying to add more drama to this match that I was already mildly uninterested in.
21:30.25
Bradley Palermo
Right.
21:30.45
Aaron
um But so so it began, Ultimate Warrior versus Macho Man. They both came out with big entrances, and the whole thing that they were trying to say ahead of this was like,
21:41.90
Aaron
Mr. Perfect is going to come out with someone, but we don't know who. And then they both come out and he doesn't come out with either of them. So so once that happens, I'm like, OK, so like, is it even going to fucking matter?
21:47.76
Bradley Palermo
Right.
21:54.45
Aaron
And the match itself was decent.
21:54.59
Bradley Palermo
Right.
21:58.83
Aaron
You know, I've seen a handful of warrior matches. They all are fairly unimpressive to me because he didn't do very much, but he was over and people loved him.
22:08.79
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
22:09.49
Aaron
um Wasn't my cup of tea, though.
22:11.63
Bradley Palermo
He was like, a was it a forum? No, it was a lariat or a clothesline, a body slam, a body press, press slam,
22:18.41
Aaron
He had a few clotheslines, the press slam. Yeah, and then he did the splash too.
22:24.33
Bradley Palermo
And the shaking of the robe. It was like five or six things, but the kids loved him.
22:26.35
Aaron
Yeah.
22:28.62
Bradley Palermo
You know, he's obviously, he's dressed up to look like a, some sort of crazy, I don't know.
22:35.21
Aaron
Superhero guy.
22:36.32
Bradley Palermo
yeah He was the dingo warrior originally. You know that?
22:39.13
Aaron
The dingo. where i feel like I did know that, but
22:40.20
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. He was the dingo warrior and he's not Australian um or anything, but that's kind of his vibe is that he's like, um what's the word?
22:53.26
Bradley Palermo
Some sort of wild man, indigenous hunter of...
22:56.74
Aaron
Oh, ah yeah, like an Aborigines or something.
23:00.27
Bradley Palermo
aborigine or something like kind of an appropriation sort of situation but he's wearing a meat suit i would call it right you can see it's like his muscles are painted on the outside of his outfit it's like the same thing it's got to be the same people yeah
23:01.11
Aaron
Yeah.
23:06.04
Aaron
Yeah, that was that was like.
23:09.71
Aaron
It's like the fucking terrible giant Gonzalez thing that they did like next year. Yeah, they did it. but Yeah. I mean, props to the airbrush artists or whatever. I'm sure they were just doing the best that they could, but it was just a weird idea.
23:23.56
Aaron
It doesn't it doesn't really translate.
23:24.38
Bradley Palermo
Just, yeah, just the concept isn't good. It's not like they didn't, it's not like the artist was bad.
23:28.59
Aaron
Yeah.
23:29.35
Bradley Palermo
it was just like, why do you need to look like we see the, your internal organs from the outside? I don't know.
23:35.74
Aaron
Yeah.
23:35.80
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
23:36.06
Aaron
You know, the whole thing, like, as I look back on this whole event, even I would say, like, half of these matches are quite frankly like embarrassing.
23:48.10
Bradley Palermo
yeah
23:48.15
Aaron
like That's how bad they are. But at the same time, there's still an aura with some of the matches that have stars that people actually remember today. you know So like this is one of them.
23:57.87
Bradley Palermo
Right. Right.
24:00.49
Aaron
It's not a terrific match, but there's a vibe in that arena, in that stadium. you know There's 70,000 plus people, and everybody knows who Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior are.
24:06.55
Bradley Palermo
right
24:11.39
Aaron
so When it came to those types of matches, um I really felt like, OK, even though this isn't the greatest pay-per-view I've ever seen, i can see why people look back on this fondly.
24:22.89
Bradley Palermo
And if anyone was wondering, Ric Flair and Mr. Perfect do come out. They basically sabotage both men. Randy Savage, once he realizes he's getting help from them, um goes out to you know challenge them. he gets counted out.
24:40.54
Aaron
Yeah.
24:40.63
Bradley Palermo
They beat him up. Warriors say it like helps Savage you know in that fight. And um you know, i I wrote down all sizzle, no steak, which sizzles fine.
24:50.53
Aaron
Yeah.
24:51.96
Bradley Palermo
You got 1992 peak warrior, peak macho man. You got Ric Flair, you know, Mr. Perfect. You know, you have all the the big faces, the names, the match was whatever's back and forth, you know, until eventually someone's like DQ'd, but yeah.
25:07.26
Aaron
Yeah. But the crowd was behind it. They were always interested. um
25:12.43
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. So you can,
25:13.22
Aaron
and You know, it would strange placement on the card to have WWF championship match be like the second to last match, third to last match or something like that.
25:26.32
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
25:26.49
Aaron
Like little strange, um but ah but a decent match. ah It just made me want to go watch like better Warrior and better Macho Man matches, not necessarily against each other, but.
25:35.36
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Dude, when Warrior... when we're like hulks up and does his no cell, like whatever, raising to the sky, it's like, he's like, um, like an evangelical, like rising up to like speak in tongues or something, you know, it's very, it's very like over the top, but I guess it's for the kids.
25:50.31
Aaron
Joel Osteen. Yeah.
25:57.34
Bradley Palermo
You know, I mean, I, I was into it when I was a kid.
25:57.83
Aaron
Right.
25:59.34
Bradley Palermo
I didn't know he sucked at wrestling. It wasn't really important, you know, but,
26:00.95
Aaron
yeah Yeah, right. that Yeah. So how much does it really all matter? at the time, it certainly didn't. I mean, I hear so many people who call it a busted open and they're like, I love Warrior. Warrior's my childhood. you know And I'm just like, yeah, and wasn't i was ah I was a few years too late for that.
26:18.60
Aaron
um But a fun match nonetheless. And yeah. So we move on to our our old...
26:24.91
Bradley Palermo
Ric Flair and Mr. Perfect promo. that what you're going to say?
26:27.13
Aaron
Yes.
26:28.08
Bradley Palermo
Okay, go ahead.
26:28.97
Aaron
Yes. No, you go ahead. Talk about it.
26:31.95
Bradley Palermo
Oh, I was just going to say it's loud and sweaty and all fucked up. And I don't really know why we still care about the about them being involved in this.
26:39.60
Aaron
Yeah, I think, again, probably just a way to set up what I assume is an eventual Flair versus Macho Man rematch. Um, cause flair was just like, ah, you can't miss, you know, just doing his typical yelling and I'm the best and I'm going to take it back and yada yada.
26:56.92
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Was that our old friend Sir Alfred Hayes? Is that what you were going to say? Interviewing them?
27:02.25
Aaron
Honestly, I don't remember. I watched it like four days ago.
27:03.23
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah.
27:04.33
Aaron
I can't remember who interviewed him, but no, what I was going to say was our, our old pal undertaker was in the next match.
27:04.49
Bradley Palermo
Okay. Yeah. Cool.
27:11.34
Aaron
And he was up against. Look at you with the soundboard. I like that. He was up against Kamala, who I was definitely scared of as a child.
27:21.89
Aaron
ah And this was another fun Undertaker entrance. I feel like maybe all of the other shit lets me down. But the one thing I can count on is the Undertaker will always have a cool entrance.
27:33.81
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, for sure.
27:34.38
Aaron
You know, like this was with the hearse and he's standing on the the back bumper and there's a coffin in the hearse. i just I just thought it was cool. paul Bearer in the front, but it's old Paul Bearer just being a complete pasty creep.
27:50.11
Aaron
He's got one face the whole time.
27:50.13
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. The atmosphere is incredible.
27:53.69
Aaron
Yeah.
27:54.41
Bradley Palermo
The match, again, not so much.
27:55.97
Aaron
Not so much. Yeah.
27:57.36
Bradley Palermo
Three minutes, man. um
28:00.26
Aaron
Yeah, this was a stinker.
28:00.31
Bradley Palermo
You know what I think? Have we talked about Kamala's last name before on this show? So, Kamala's last name, and I'm fucking not making a joke, is oddly coincidental.
28:13.53
Bradley Palermo
It's Harris. This is fucking Kamala Harris.
28:16.81
Aaron
Right, but his actual first name isn't Kamala.
28:19.70
Bradley Palermo
No. But, like...
28:22.03
Aaron
James Arthur Harris.
28:22.22
Bradley Palermo
it's almost It's almost like too weird that this is...
28:23.19
Aaron
That is pretty funny, though.
28:27.04
Aaron
You can't write that shit.
28:28.19
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, you can't write that shit.
28:28.30
Aaron
Kamala.
28:30.01
Bradley Palermo
um Anyways.
28:31.35
Aaron
but But he was pronounced Kamala and Kamala's Kamala.
28:35.61
Bradley Palermo
And I'm so confused by that because i when I see the name, I think about it like The Wrestler because that's what I heard first.
28:42.45
Aaron
The wrestler, yeah. Of course.
28:44.30
Bradley Palermo
But I think Donald Trump says it like The Wrestler, even though it's...
28:47.99
Aaron
He does.
28:48.43
Bradley Palermo
right Which I don't want to be like that fucking guy.
28:49.01
Aaron
most most most ah Most people on the Republican side where yeah were intentionally calling her Kamala instead of Kamala.
29:00.14
Bradley Palermo
Okay. Because it sounds...
29:02.81
Aaron
Because, well, because they didn't want, because, yeah because it's wrong and they don't want to do any, you know, they don't want to give her anything.
29:03.80
Bradley Palermo
Because it's wrong.
29:07.75
Bradley Palermo
Right.
29:08.41
Aaron
Probably. I don't know.
29:08.94
Bradley Palermo
Right, right.
29:09.60
Aaron
I don't know why anyone does anything.
29:11.42
Bradley Palermo
Okay. But I liked how ah when Undertaker was coming out, Heenan, like you said, it was on fire. they were like He was like, the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
29:17.50
Aaron
Mm hmm.
29:19.92
Bradley Palermo
Which is funny. Yeah.
29:23.57
Aaron
He had so many good ones. I can't believe I didn't write them down. ah as soon as ah Once the main event happened, which we're going to talk about in a minute, that's when I was like, okay, I got to write some of these down. So yeah, three minute match with Undertaker and Kamala.
29:36.62
Aaron
Kamala. Now I'm doing it wrong. Undertaker and Kamala. And then we got to the main event and they there was some, you know, pomp and circumstance, some pre-match stuff. We saw an interview with Brett's sister and the Bulldogs wife.
29:55.86
Aaron
Um, I thought that was some interesting you know dressing, some some complication, if you will.
29:58.80
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it wasn't bad.
30:02.25
Aaron
She wasn't the best she wasn't the best interviewee, I'll say, but but I liked that they were cutting back to her.
30:02.46
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, he's family drummer.
30:10.16
Aaron
And this is where I wrote down this is where i wrote down the first Bobby the Brain thing that made me laugh. And there is a shot of Diana and he's like, who's that Mike McGurk?
30:22.08
Aaron
And I'm like, who the fuck is Mike McGurk? And I look it up and she's, ah she was a wrestler also female, obviously, and blonde.
30:24.10
Bradley Palermo
I don't know that.
30:27.28
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah.
30:28.79
Aaron
And I was like, what a, what a random deep, you know, joke that you just made.
30:32.40
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Why was there was also Roddy Piper playing some bagpipes or as Bobby Heenan said, grown men in skirts playing vacuum cleaners.
30:34.07
Aaron
So what?
30:38.79
Aaron
Oh, that's right. I forgot. yeah
30:44.23
Aaron
Yes, he played the Balmoral Highlands song or whatever it's called.
30:44.23
Bradley Palermo
But.
30:48.23
Aaron
The song that he usually comes out to when he wrestles.
30:48.54
Bradley Palermo
OK.
30:52.36
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I don't I don't see what yeah, where it fit, but he was there.
30:52.66
Aaron
That was sort of out of place. It
30:57.17
Aaron
it was there and it happened. um And, you know, they they did a good job of hyping up Brett versus the Bulldog. And, you know, their entrances were huge. And this was very clearly the match that everyone was there to see.
31:12.92
Aaron
um
31:12.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
31:14.36
Aaron
it was by far the best match of the night, no comparison. And I suspect that part of that again was because of the crowd. Crowd was very behind it. They were all on the side of British Bulldog, even though Bret Hart was a baby face.
31:29.12
Aaron
Um, so this was, I thought this was terrific.
31:29.16
Bradley Palermo
yeah
31:33.44
Aaron
Um, and the first Bobby, the brain quote that I wrote down that made me laugh super hard was, uh, He was talking about the British Bulldog who was in cornrows or dreadlocks. whatever However, I think it was cornrows. Yeah, he had cornrows.
31:50.28
Bradley Palermo
Oh, that's what it was.
31:50.59
Aaron
and um And Bobby says, I don't know why he lets Whoopi Goldberg do his hair. That one got me. That was a deep cut.
31:59.16
Bradley Palermo
Dude, that's funny. There's nothing... There's just nothing acceptable for me about like a white guy with cornrows or dreadlocks.
32:09.84
Bradley Palermo
It's just always...
32:10.03
Aaron
I don't really know why he he felt the need to have that, but.
32:11.98
Bradley Palermo
Something... Something is just, I don't, and I don't know why it's so irritating, but every time I see it, I'm just like, bro, it's not working for you, you know?
32:20.62
Aaron
It'd be one thing if it was like a good look for the person, and I'm not saying that it was a bad look for the Bulldog, but it certainly wasn't his best look.
32:20.72
Bradley Palermo
But, um, yeah.
32:29.36
Bradley Palermo
Nah.
32:29.49
Aaron
um And, you know, getting back to the to the match itself, um They had plenty of time. you know I think it was like 25, 30 minutes long.
32:40.32
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
32:40.83
Aaron
There were opportunities to let things breathe. ah I actually saw some moves from Brett that I had never seen before, which I thought was really cool.
32:49.90
Bradley Palermo
Right. Yeah.
32:51.04
Aaron
Most of them were... like the bulldog had him in some kind of a hold. They were doing some chain wrestling and Brett would counter it. And it was just a counter that I have never seen like two from, I don't know if anyone ever started doing it after Brett or if someone did it before.
32:59.30
Bradley Palermo
right
33:02.04
Bradley Palermo
yeah
33:08.37
Aaron
um but there were some really, really cool, like, wow, I've never even thought that that like you would get out of a move this way. So,
33:16.09
Bradley Palermo
Right. It was, I mean, by so some people consider this one of the best matches of the 90s, one of the best matches in history, one of the best, you know, pick your poison. Like, it's very so very like celebrated. It's one of Bret Hart's career highlights.
33:32.76
Bradley Palermo
um Yeah, it's brilliant, technical.
33:34.07
Aaron
I could see why.
33:36.24
Bradley Palermo
um The crowd was so electric, so there was a lot to play off there. But um have you heard about about like the behind the scenes on this match?
33:45.11
Aaron
no no, I have not.
33:46.36
Bradley Palermo
Okay, so British Bulldog, um much like the first match, was all allegedly just all fucking coked out and forgot everything they were supposed to do and was dead weight in the match.
34:00.18
Aaron
Oh my gosh.
34:03.06
Bradley Palermo
And Bret Hart in his book is quoted saying, he thought to himself, if I can pull this off, I really must be the best there is. And...
34:12.89
Aaron
I had no idea watching.
34:14.17
Bradley Palermo
So he was, Brett basically says he carried that entire match and Bulldog came up to him beforehand and was like, I have no idea what's going on. And he'd been up for days and days doing drugs.
34:22.62
Aaron
Geez. Wow.
34:25.31
Bradley Palermo
And um Brett said he was livid. He was pissed um because nobody knew what he just accomplished.
34:28.31
Aaron
Yeah, why how could you not be?
34:31.02
Bradley Palermo
Nobody knew what he just had to do to make that happen. So I read about it and rewatched it. And I'm like, you know, it's not like Bulldog does nothing. he He doesn't seem incapable, which I guess
34:42.28
Aaron
not like Jeff Hardy in that match with TNA where he like literally couldn't stand up.
34:46.86
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it wasn't like that. But also, I think that's a lot of times why Brett was kind of like getting himself into a hold and then telling him, like he said, for the finish, he was like, when I go for the sunset flip, just sit down.
34:59.65
Bradley Palermo
Just sit down on my chest, which is eventually you know how it finished.
34:59.76
Aaron
hmm. Mm hmm.
35:02.33
Bradley Palermo
but um But yes, Brett wrote about this book, a wrote about this match a lot in his book.
35:12.88
Bradley Palermo
So um yeah.
35:13.86
Aaron
That's cool. Yeah. I mean, interesting, uh, as an interesting bit of color to that match, I guess I might have to watch it again. um
35:21.55
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
35:22.41
Aaron
one of the other moves that Brett did that I had never seen before, and it wasn't a counter. It was just like, I've literally never seen it before or after, uh, bulldog was on the floor and Brett jumped over the top rope
35:29.99
Bradley Palermo
yeah
35:38.58
Aaron
and gave Bulldog a neck breaker onto the floor. Do you remember this? It was like Bulldogs all the way down on the floor.
35:44.24
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
35:46.95
Aaron
Brett jumps all the way, he jumps over the top rope, somehow it manages to grab Bulldog's neck and do a perfect back breaker. It was insane.
35:55.92
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, that's crazy.
35:57.85
Aaron
I just was so impressed by the technical skills of this match. And that's so crazy to me that Bulldog was just coked out of his mind because I didn't notice it. Like I thought he was doing.
36:08.69
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
36:10.38
Aaron
and thought it was perfect.
36:11.42
Bradley Palermo
When you go back and watch the match knowing that, you still can't really tell. So, I mean, I know Bret Hart's very outspoken, has a lot of opinions.
36:15.70
Aaron
Mm hmm.
36:19.38
Bradley Palermo
you know
36:19.90
Aaron
Yeah.
36:20.37
Bradley Palermo
there's ah There's a lot of ego there. He's really, I mean, he you know he is the best. I'm not arguing with that. I think he's hilarious how he tells it like it is. I tend to kind of take his side when he tells his story.
36:30.93
Aaron
That's why punk likes him so much.
36:31.47
Bradley Palermo
But there isn't a lot of Davey Boy... um like he had Davey boy wasn't, he didn't write a lot about it.
36:37.51
Aaron
Didn't write a lot.
36:39.41
Bradley Palermo
So it's just Brett side, but the way that Brett tells it, you know, um, he just made someone else look really, really good so much.
36:39.83
Aaron
Yeah.
36:48.23
Bradley Palermo
He's so awesome that Davey boy could be worthless in the ring and still look that good, you know?
36:55.13
Aaron
Yeah, I mean, Brett is pretty fucking good. i do love Bret Hart. um
37:01.39
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
37:03.13
Aaron
Well, and that was it. ah But what we didn't get to the finish, I guess, which is probably important. So...
37:09.06
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
37:10.28
Aaron
So after a lot of back and forth, the crowd is really at a fever pitch. um there Yeah, there is a sunset flip. Brett tries to get a sunset flip onto the Bulldog. Bulldog is able to counter it and get Brett in a pin, folds him like ah like an accordion, and gets the win and is the new Intercontinental Champion. And I got to tell you, the pop when he wins is...
37:35.21
Aaron
Very, very, very loud. Even for 1992's shitty audio equipment.
37:38.84
Bradley Palermo
Yes.
37:40.91
Aaron
Holy mackerel.
37:42.66
Bradley Palermo
Right. They were really stoked. And um i believe, yeah, there was a handshake, some camaraderie.
37:44.86
Aaron
Yeah.
37:48.33
Bradley Palermo
There was some good sportsmanship at the end.
37:50.96
Aaron
Yeah, Diana came into the ring and hugged them both. they all it was It was perfect. It was a perfect main event.
37:56.39
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
37:58.24
Aaron
All the storytelling you needed was inside the body of the match, which is why Brett is the best.
38:03.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
38:04.09
Aaron
It was just, it was perfect. I
38:07.10
Bradley Palermo
We mentioned that it was brother-in-laws fighting, right? I think you did.
38:10.59
Aaron
i don't, yeah, we did very briefly, but yeah.
38:11.82
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:12.67
Aaron
yeah Diana Hart, Brett's brother, Davey boy, British Bulldog's wife. So yes, they were brothers by marriage.
38:18.85
Bradley Palermo
So they you had Diana's face sort of picture in picture the off and on throughout the match, which was which was good
38:23.73
Aaron
Every once in a while. Yeah. Which I think,
38:26.01
Bradley Palermo
Good storytelling, yeah, for sure.
38:26.97
Aaron
Mm-hmm. Yeah. This was clearly a far and away the best match, like not just because of what happened in the ring, but just everything. Atmosphere, storytelling, the the the buildup that they did.
38:37.76
Aaron
um It's pretty perfect.
38:40.92
Bradley Palermo
um I wrote down a few interesting facts just to sort of wrap it up. This was the first major pay-per-view outside of North America for WWF.
38:54.08
Aaron
Nice. Nice.
38:54.31
Bradley Palermo
um Like you mentioned earlier, it was a tape show. um it actually aired two days in the US after it already happened. I guess back then you didn't really, information didn't travel as fast as, yeah.
39:05.49
Aaron
No spoilers in 1992. Yeah. Oh, that makes sense why there was a match in between Undertaker and the main event that like was listed on Wikipedia as a dark match, but like clearly couldn't have been a dark match because it was in the middle of the pay-per-view.
39:08.32
Bradley Palermo
All right.
39:20.22
Bradley Palermo
Right. Yeah, that's interesting.
39:21.17
Aaron
So there was the Tatanka versus the Berserker.
39:21.74
Bradley Palermo
They just cut it off, huh?
39:24.69
Aaron
they They just cut it out. and don't know who's the Berserker.
39:27.00
Bradley Palermo
I appreciate that. I appreciate we didn't have to watch that. Um, yeah, Savage versus Warrior was originally slated to be the main event.
39:37.24
Bradley Palermo
I think they still called it the main event in this, in this event.
39:37.36
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
39:39.70
Aaron
They did, yeah, which was weird.
39:41.49
Bradley Palermo
Um, but they, somebody made the right call the last minute to, to put the the hometown boy, uh, in the real main event. Um, uh yeah we already talked about Davey Boyd was high so Brett called the whole match in the ring um LOD's most iconic entrance uh Let's see.
40:03.60
Bradley Palermo
What else did I have? Flair didn't wrestle, but he was there, which seems kind of like a waste of Ric Flair on the roster.
40:07.58
Aaron
Yep. Definitely. Definitely.
40:10.75
Bradley Palermo
And Bulldog's pop that we talked about was one of the most historic pops of of all time.
40:16.88
Aaron
Yeah.
40:18.16
Bradley Palermo
Brett also considers this to be one of his greatest matches of all time.
40:24.48
Aaron
All right. I guess we should give it a grapple grade.
40:27.98
Bradley Palermo
Well, grapple grade, for those of you that don't know, we go fast forward play or rewind. Fast forward being the lowest score, rewind being the highest score. I am going to have to go play on this, not fully rewind, because the pay-per-view itself wasn't strong.
40:48.12
Bradley Palermo
It was strong in... nostalgia and the right people were all there and we have one we have a really really great match and we have some story but overall it doesn't hold up for the full three hours that it goes um you could really just put on this match fast forward to the main event and uh and you should but but uh yeah i'm right there kind of in the middle on this one how do you feel about aaron
41:16.59
Aaron
We are one in the same yet again. uh, pay-per-view is a stinker. Let's just be honest. If you, if you sit down for three hours, you're gonna be like, what is this shit for like two hours of the three hours minimum?
41:22.63
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
41:26.10
Bradley Palermo
yeah
41:28.63
Aaron
So I'm going to give it a play. I'm going to say you can watch the whole thing if you want, just be prepared for it not to be great. And if you really want the highlights, just watch British Bulldog versus Bret Hart.
41:40.79
Aaron
Cause that is far and away the best thing on this pay-per-view.
41:43.80
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I watched that match twice and the ah the other two hours i I wish I could take back. So should we go to the phone? the We have.
41:57.17
Bradley Palermo
If you guys want to get a hold of us, you can hit us up on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. It's all Grapple City at Grapple City Pod. Or you can call 626-657-SLAMM.
42:09.89
Bradley Palermo
lamb
42:12.87
Aaron
Pick out the What's our clip actually from?
42:16.82
Bradley Palermo
you can leave us a voicemail you can cut a promo on us tell us what we're right about what we're wrong about how much you want to beat us up and how you're going to do it or whatever makes you happy we've had some people call on and have some fun at our expense
42:31.90
Aaron
What's pick pick out the phone? What is that from?
42:33.79
Bradley Palermo
oh it's from a 900 sex line from the 90s that used to play like in between everything i was watching
42:34.02
Aaron
Is that?
42:36.61
Aaron
I knew it. I knew it. and it It just had like a very like, this is a phone sex line vibe to it.
42:42.17
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
42:42.98
Aaron
Yeah.
42:43.40
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. It was like, you don't have to be alone tonight.
42:44.16
Aaron
um I appreciate that for us.
42:46.80
Bradley Palermo
Just call me
42:47.59
Aaron
finger Yeah.
42:49.17
Bradley Palermo
and Yeah. um So but let's see. I do have somebody called in Let's see.
42:56.90
Aaron
Oh boy.
42:57.03
Bradley Palermo
Do I have Justin?
42:58.74
Aaron
What did I do now?
42:59.22
Bradley Palermo
Let's see. let's see
43:02.92
Aaron
Has anyone talked shit about you or it only just been picking on me?
43:06.14
Bradley Palermo
That promo, like he did a section on both of us.
43:08.70
Aaron
Oh, that's right. That's right.
43:09.56
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah. But then somebody somebody had some dispute about your take on Real Heat or something one time.
43:15.91
Aaron
Oh yeah. i had a hot take. I didn't have a lot of hot takes this episode.
43:17.53
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
43:19.35
Aaron
I should be more divisive and mean.
43:21.02
Bradley Palermo
We talked a lot of shit about SummerSlam. Maybe I can cut some clips out of that.
43:24.48
Aaron
Oh yeah. Yeah. Somebody, somebody, Oh, somebody will be pissed about me saying that they, everyone needs to chill about unreal.
43:25.39
Bradley Palermo
and
43:30.53
Bradley Palermo
Right, right.
43:30.91
Aaron
That'll be, that'll get some good shit.
43:31.25
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah.
43:32.94
Aaron
Maybe I should just be like bully Ray, chill the fuck out about WWE w unreal.
43:32.97
Bradley Palermo
That's cool.
43:36.74
Aaron
It's not the end of the world.
43:39.78
Bradley Palermo
Especially since he's on one of those behind the scenes shows a little bit.
43:42.36
Aaron
I know that's the, he's such a fucking heel, dude.
43:43.45
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
43:45.24
Aaron
He's such a, he's such a heel.
43:45.44
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
43:46.72
Aaron
And I love that ah for him.
43:47.22
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
43:48.04
Aaron
he just, Oh, Libby's on camera.
43:48.97
Bradley Palermo
there's the dog. Yeah. Yeah.
43:53.32
Aaron
Bully Ray's job in life is just to piss people off.
43:53.42
Bradley Palermo
um
43:56.24
Aaron
And I appreciate that about him.
43:56.54
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. All take this call.
44:26.24
Aaron
Yeah, he's not wrong.
45:03.79
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Or not.
45:08.18
Bradley Palermo
not
45:19.83
Aaron
Thanks, man.
45:19.93
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think, ah Justin, you are right there with us on this one.
45:24.48
Aaron
Yeah.
45:24.67
Bradley Palermo
That pretty much says it. There's pretty much nothing else I could say about that one. But um I have fun with the historical aspects of ah watching these things with intent and purpose.
45:37.02
Aaron
It's fun to watch even if it's a stinker because then you can look back and be like, wow, it wasn't as good as I thought.
45:38.28
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
45:42.79
Aaron
The past is not as as beautiful as we pretend that it is sometimes.
45:46.88
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, and even when I watch these things, like I've had this thing on in the background at my house like so many times. You just click SummerSlam and they all play.
45:53.09
Aaron
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
45:55.12
Bradley Palermo
but But I never like sit there and I'm like taking notes and really watching it. So I feel better kind of knowing where I stand with it as a whole.
46:02.97
Aaron
Yeah.
46:03.14
Bradley Palermo
Right.
46:04.23
Aaron
You know, how much wrestling is supposed to have notes taken about it?
46:04.46
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
46:08.53
Aaron
Probably none of it, if we're being perfectly honest.
46:11.58
Bradley Palermo
right
46:11.77
Aaron
Like, who knows that this is never meant to be something that was that notes were written about.
46:12.82
Bradley Palermo
yeah
46:17.80
Aaron
but But we have fun and we look back on the past with a critical eye, which is OK.
46:18.08
Bradley Palermo
was.
46:23.46
Aaron
You know, it's it's it's. Not everything can be sunshine and roses in the past, but despite all of the junk that we got in SummerSlam 92, we got there was a diamond at the end of that that coal mine.
46:35.95
Bradley Palermo
there was Next week, it's my call.
46:40.02
Aaron
Yeah, what are we doing?
46:40.17
Bradley Palermo
I'm looking at NWA Clash of the Champions 3 Fall Brawl, which was seven September 7th, 1998 in Albany, Georgia.
46:50.81
Bradley Palermo
It was TV special, not a pay-per-view. We've watched another Clash the Champions before, was it?
46:55.67
Aaron
You say 98 or 88?
46:57.99
Bradley Palermo
Oh, did I say 98? I meant 88. um at eighty eight
47:00.49
Aaron
Okay, I thought you said 98, and I was like, wow, that's bes later than I thought it would be.
47:05.83
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah. It's 88. Which Class the Champions did we watch before? Four?
47:10.90
Aaron
I don't remember. I think it might have been the first or the second one. Which one is this? What's the big match on this one?
47:15.92
Bradley Palermo
This one is Dusty Rhodes. Wait, no. Ric Flair and Barry Windham versus Midnight Express. Wait, do we already watch this?
47:23.21
Aaron
No, we didn't watch that one.
47:24.14
Bradley Palermo
Dusty Rhodes and Sting versus Dick Murdoch and the Russian establish Assassin.
47:27.77
Aaron
We didn't watch that. Yeah, no, we did not.
47:28.92
Bradley Palermo
Dr. Death versus the Fantastics.
47:31.47
Aaron
I think we watched the second one with It wasn't...
47:31.52
Bradley Palermo
Um...
47:36.08
Aaron
We need to watch the one that's the Sting flare 45-minute draw. I've never seen that.
47:42.58
Bradley Palermo
Okay.
47:42.66
Aaron
you know i think that's the first the very first one, but I can't remember.
47:44.93
Bradley Palermo
Okay.
47:45.82
Aaron
I'm excited no matter what. I like Clash of the Champions, always.
47:48.32
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I this is looking for something that's going to line up timely. I like to kind of hit it similar dates when we can. we don't um There's no rules. We don't have to. but um But yeah, um I want to get away from WWF.
48:01.60
Bradley Palermo
f e for a minute because it's just been a lot was two summer slams an old one a current one um i want to go back to wcw i like that other clash the champions like like the weird 80s fucking tv stuff it was kind of cool so um yeah like this will be like peak like horseman era you know so um i hear it's a hidden gem um and it's weird and it's perfect for our um summer transition into september which
48:07.82
Aaron
Yeah.
48:13.66
Aaron
Mm-hmm.
48:24.61
Aaron
Yeah.
48:33.64
Bradley Palermo
you know, fuck the summer went by pretty quick.
48:35.71
Aaron
Which one did we watch? Now I can't even remember which clash we watched.
48:38.18
Bradley Palermo
think it was four.
48:40.63
Aaron
Ric Flair and Barry Windham versus the Midnight Express.
48:40.68
Bradley Palermo
thought it was four.
48:43.20
Aaron
I don't know why I don't remember that. No, we watched the one, didn't we watch the one with Flair and Funk?
48:51.86
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, we did.
48:54.04
Aaron
The I Quit match. So that was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's in the future. think that's like the 10th one or something.
49:01.81
Bradley Palermo
um flare funk iquish match class the champions let me see
49:09.08
Aaron
Yeah. Clash of the Champions 9. Adios.
49:11.69
Bradley Palermo
class the champions nine okay well that's all we have for this episode of grapple city rewind um let us know what you think or i don't fucking know um that's all we got this for this episode thank you guys for listening we'll be back as soon as we can until then we'll catch you in the cheap seats
49:30.11
Aaron
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