Tails of Truth: The Truth about Veterinary Medicine

SUP! Meet Dr. Angie & JoJo

• Dr. Angie Krause, DVM CVA CCRT

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Summary

In this episode of the Tails of Truth podcast, Dr. Angie and JoJo introduce themselves and their mission to provide unfiltered insights into veterinary medicine. Dr. Angie, a holistic veterinarian, shares her diverse experience and commitment to empowering pet guardians. JoJo, a veterinary nurse, emphasizes the importance of building relationships with clients and providing personalized care. The hosts discuss the role of telehealth, the benefits of plant medicine, and the launch of their dedicated cat care website. They invite listeners to engage with their podcast and share their experiences.

Takeaways

Dr. Angie aims to empower pet guardians as medical advocates.
The podcast will provide unfiltered insights into veterinary medicine.
JoJo emphasizes the importance of building relationships with clients.
Telehealth is a growing aspect of veterinary care.
Plant medicine, including CBD, is a focus for pet wellness.
The hosts have created a dedicated website for cat care.
Personalized care plans are essential for pet health.
The podcast will cover a wide range of topics related to pets.
Listeners are encouraged to share their experiences and questions.
The hosts are committed to supporting pet guardians through their journey.

Please subscribe and review! xoxo Dr. Angie & JoJo


Dr. Angie (00:01)
Welcome to Tails of Truth podcast where we tell the truth about veterinary medicine. I am Dr. Angie and this is my co-host Jojo. And today we want to say what's up and tell you who we are. I immediately identified myself as a Gen X when I did that. Do you remember writing the note saying sup? S-U-P. So we're of that generation. Hello.

JoJo (00:10)
Hey.

Yes.

Sup.

Yeah, there might be some nods to what you some people may not understand. What's up? But you're gonna have a good time anyhow.

Dr. Angie (00:36)
No. So if you don't understand, you're just not old enough.

Totally. So we want to introduce ourselves. I'm Angie. I'm a veterinarian. I have been practicing for 18 years and I've done all kinds of stuff in my career. I've worked in pet food. So I have a lot of pet food industry experience. I've done house call practice, private practice. What else have I done? Oh, I've done physical therapy. So was a rehabber for a while. What do I left out?

JoJo (01:10)
Yeah.

Dr. Angie (01:11)
I practice Chinese medicine, solo entrepreneur. I love raw diets. So that's a bit about how I practice. But what can I do for you as a pet parent and my whole mission in life as a veterinarian? And I, this has been the case before I was a veterinarian is that I want to empower you to be your pets medical advocate.

JoJo (01:14)
So, well, entrepreneur.

Dr. Angie (01:40)
And so a lot of veterinarians feel like this is the only way to do things like traditional veterinarians get really staunchly in their corners about traditional medicine and then holistic veterinarians say if you're feeding kibble, then you know, you're going to kill your pet or they get very dogmatic and that's not very polarizing. That's not me at all. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to help you get all the information that you need.

like good information, and I'm gonna help you make a decision that's best for you and your pet. And sometimes that's gonna be an alternative therapy, and sometimes it's gonna be a traditional therapy, and a lot of times it's gonna be both, because I like to do it all. So.

JoJo (02:26)
So you call

yourself a holistic veterinarian. mean your website is boulderholisticvet.com. But would you consider yourself more of an integrative veterinarian and what would be the difference?

Dr. Angie (02:30)
Yes.

I don't know what the difference is. I don't know. have been, like, integrative feels so, like, proper. I guess I like holistic because I am really thinking about everybody. I'm thinking, like, if your dog has diarrhea all night, I'm thinking about how much sleep you're not getting. I'm thinking about all the dynamics in your house. I'm thinking about how much money you have to spend. I'm thinking about all of it. And so.

JoJo (02:41)
⁓ I have an idea.

Dr. Angie (03:08)
That's why I call myself holistic.

JoJo (03:11)
When I hear that, hear holistic with a W-H-O-L-E, like the whole picture of mind, body, spirit, animal, guardian, all of it.

Dr. Angie (03:15)
Yeah.

Yeah,

it's all important and should all be considered.

JoJo (03:27)
Hmm.

Dr. Angie (03:28)
So I don't know, maybe I'm holistic, maybe I'm integrative. I'm holistic with a W.

JoJo (03:34)
Yeah, that's what I hear. ⁓

Dr. Angie (03:40)
So how can we work together? Well, first, you can listen to our podcast. We are so committed to spilling all the secrets. This is like all, I know, we just, yeah, most of it is fun. It's not all fun. We're gonna tell you just in no uncertain terms what veterinary medicine is really like, what's really happening, and it's gonna be all unfiltered.

JoJo (03:50)
This is the fun part of our week. I mean, all of it's fun. Most of it's fun. All of it's fun is a lie. Yeah, but this is fun.

Dr. Angie (04:10)
unedited, maybe kind of controversial sometimes. But we're committed and this is like our, this is our love project to veterinary medicine and to the people that love their animals.

JoJo (04:14)
Yeah.

Hmm.

Right, I would say it's not just for those who are in veterinary medicine. A lot of our episodes are covered topics about your pet.

Dr. Angie (04:31)
Yes, help you understand veterinary medicine. Yeah, because there's kind of a dark underbelly that we talk about. And it's not the underbelly that you think. Dun, dun, dun. Everyone thinks they know. ⁓ But it's not what you think. It's never what you think. ⁓ And so we're going to talk about that. And if you want to work with me, if you want help with your pet,

JoJo (04:33)
And yeah. Yeah.

Dun dun dun!

Dr. Angie (05:02)
I provide video consultations where I can gather records from all your veterinarians. Some people have one, some people have 20 veterinarians. And if you want, I can get records, I will review them all. Sometimes we review hundreds of pages of records, both JoJo and I. And then we will meet on Zoom. We will record it if you want. And we will make a plan together. So we're going to talk about everything that's bothering you.

and everything that's bothering your pet. And we're going to make a holistic plan. So I'm going to listen to you. And we're going to make a good holistic with a W plan for you and your cat or your dog. And then we're going to send you the recording. And then AI is going to generate some really kind of accurate notes. It does a pretty good job.

JoJo (05:47)
Yeah.

A nod to AI, which means we're kind of moving into the newer generation. We're growing with it.

Dr. Angie (06:00)
Yes, we are. Yeah, we use AI. We're cool.

And then on my website, you can also find all the supplements I love heavy into the plant medicine CBD and mushrooms. Heavy, heavy emphasis on those. And it's heavy into those two things, because I think they're some of the most powerful plant medicines for cats and dogs.

And so I love them. And so you're going to see a lot of them. You're going to see the ones that I recommend. There's a lot of not so good products out there, especially marketed towards pets. It's not good. And so I've curated what I think is good, what I feed my own animals and what I recommend for my patients. So you can get those things. You can also visit our blog. So if you're still into reading things, although we do put videos with them now, ⁓ we have a ton of information. ⁓

about how I approach all kinds of diseases for cats and dogs. Yes.

JoJo (06:59)
so much information, so

much that's out there for our readers. now, yeah.

Dr. Angie (07:06)
Yes. So that's a Boulder holistic vet. But then we also did

a little side thing where we made a website just for cats. It's called Natural Cat Vet. Yeah.

JoJo (07:15)
For the cat people. Well, not even

for the cat people, for the cats.

Dr. Angie (07:20)
They deserve their own room and it's called naturalcatvet.com. Pretty soon they're going to be really close together. So if you go to one, you'll be visiting the other. ⁓ but they do have separate URLs because cats deserve their own URL in this lifetime.

JoJo (07:33)
Well,

and you want to order from that shop just for the box. I'm telling you, the boxes we designed are one of my favorite things of all time. I do, I have to leave my desk to go get it. Yeah.

Dr. Angie (07:37)
Do you have a box?

Okay, well maybe at

the end we'll show a box. Yes, you need to order from Natural Cat Vet just to get a box. Or if you order from Boulder Holistic Vet and leave us a little note, we can ship it to you.

JoJo (07:55)
totally say send

me a natural cat vet box, we can do that. Make that happen.

Dr. Angie (07:59)
So cute.

So that's what I have to offer. And Jojo has so much to offer too. She's going to make everything happen. So Jojo, what should everyone know about you?

JoJo (08:09)
Yo,

I am Angie's trusty sidekick for close to six years now. I have been, I'm a veterinary nurse. What we're calling veterinary nurse now, like many of us would like to be called veterinary nurses. The technical legal term is registered veterinary technician, depending on the state.

Every state has something different. But I have been practicing nursing since 2002. I did not do the math to figure out how many years that is. A long time, most of my adult working life. ⁓ And everything from oncology to wildlife rehab. And it wasn't until I landed at an integrative practice, which I don't think of as, what did you call it? ⁓ What did you call it? Integrative was a little bit.

Dr. Angie (08:41)
You don't have to.

⁓ I don't know. feel so serious. ⁓

JoJo (09:03)
Serious, as he said.

I think of it as inclusive. ⁓ That's how I see it. But once I landed there, this was when I lived in Portland, Oregon, I knew that was a sweet spot of where I wanted to be. ⁓ Because that's how I lived my life. That's how I raised my kids. That's how I practiced with my own dogs, which I have two dogs. Angie's a cat.

Dr. Angie (09:09)
Okay.

JoJo (09:28)
Angie's a cat mom, I've got dogs, so we kind of bridged that world, those perspectives. And here over at Boulder Holistic Vet and Natural Cat Vet, I feel like I'm the behind the scenes machine. Is that fair to say? Yeah, keep things humming along. Trying to make sure.

Dr. Angie (09:34)
Totally.

Yes, totally. She makes everything happen

and she is my handler 100%.

JoJo (09:54)
Well,

I'm gonna throw this and I had to laugh because Angie left me a voice memo last night that I listened to in front of my family and It said something along the lines of like ⁓ I think I forgot to do that That's the bane of my existence and she's like I think that's probably the bane of your existence, too ⁓ For the most part I drop things now and then but

Dr. Angie (10:02)
⁓ no.

yeah, there's so much about me that's the bane of your existence, but you keep it all together.

JoJo (10:23)
I, the thing I love about what we are doing and what we do here, ⁓ shameless plug is just we truly know the customers, the telehealth, the patients we see, they're real people and real pets to us. So first names, we'll know something about your kid, like the personal stuff, because that's what we're doing. I feel like we're building relationships. That's, yeah, that's not a lie.

Dr. Angie (10:47)
Yeah. We love you.

It's not a lie. We cry when we lose our patience. We have a whole mental breaks when we have too much loss. I mean, we take everything really close to heart. Yeah. And we lose sleep over your pets.

JoJo (10:56)
Yeah.

Yeah. Lose sleep. We lose sleep. We do.

Dr. Angie (11:12)
We're going

to advocate for you. We don't like it when you are treated poorly by other veterinarians. We are mad for you. Yeah. when you're struggling, we are always thinking about what can we do to support them.

JoJo (11:17)
Not ever. Yeah.

And that's not just the pets and people that we see in person in practice. We just remember, I love this, we're small enough that we can remember the details about you. ⁓ Yeah, that matters. That's what makes it feel like home. I feel like it's a safe place, it's a non-judgmental place, ⁓ it's a problem solving space.

Dr. Angie (11:39)
Yeah. Yes.

JoJo (11:54)
Yeah, and we believe you. And I think that's the other big thing. So many people come to our practice or through telemedicine. I see it all the time. I'm not being heard or I swear this is happening to my pet and nobody's hearing me. And I promise you, you're come here and be heard.

Dr. Angie (12:12)
Yeah, we believe you. We believe you all the time. And we're going to help you. Yeah.

JoJo (12:18)
Yeah, and that's our goal

with the podcast is to spread a little bit of it, but also just to, sometimes there's big WTFs of like, that's really happening, you know, because it's not our experience, but we're hearing it from the people that find us.

Dr. Angie (12:29)
I know.

Yes. Yeah. That is so true. There are a lot of interesting things happening in veterinary medicine. And that's part of this podcast is to help you feel supported and help you matriculate. That's my favorite word. Matriculate veterinary medicine when you have a sick pet or when you want to do things a little bit alternatively.

holistically with a W, we can help you do that. We can help you do that well. Customized care plans.

JoJo (13:05)
I like to call them customized care plans. So when you find us by

telemed or telehealth or video consultation, whatever umbrella you wanna put that under, ⁓ customized care plans because no pet is presenting the same way, needing the same treatment, no household has the same capability, financial means, resources. It's just, so that's what I think is so, that's what I think of with integrative. Like what can we piece together?

Dr. Angie (13:28)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

JoJo (13:35)
to make it fit for you and your And we try to do it with a smile most days.

Dr. Angie (13:35)
Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So. yeah. my gosh. Jojo's the most pleasant person you will ever interact with. And then when I email you back, it's going to be like three words. Normally, Dr. Angie. But Jojo's going to really like she's so great.

JoJo (13:46)
Ha

I'm gonna

like drown you in words.

Dr. Angie (13:59)
She's going to, yeah, because she knows everything

about you. And she's not kidding. She knows everything about you. And I, I'm sorry. I love you just as much. And my, I, my written communication style is a little Kurt sometimes, but it's, it's with love. Yeah. Come hang out with us. We're going to talk about all kinds of things on this podcast. We're going to talk about really serious things. We're going to talk about current events.

JoJo (14:11)
Well, you have a lot more on your plate than I do. A lot more responsibility. So that's who we are in a nutshell. Yeah.

Dr. Angie (14:27)
We're going to talk about diseases that are affecting your cat or dog. So we're going to do it all.

JoJo (14:34)
our own shame

and blame with our own pets like that yeah

Dr. Angie (14:37)
We're going to talk about our own shame. Yeah,

we're going to do it all. So please come with us. Please subscribe to our podcast. Leave us five star reviews. Tell your friends. Please, please, please. And we'll tell you the truth. You tell your friends. I just made up a new tagline.

JoJo (14:45)
Share it.

Or, and, you know, email us with your, do you want us to talk about? What do you want to hear that's unscripted and unfiltered? Because we'll have that conversation.

Dr. Angie (15:02)
Yes.

And follow us on Instagram because Metta does not want us to be there because we sell CBD. Come like the underdog, please.

JoJo (15:15)
the truth.

These

Gen Zers are a little bit blacklisted because of plant medicine.

Dr. Angie (15:22)
We have that they don't

like the plant medicine. And we're not doing anything illegal. It's all legal plant medicine. So come find us. We're so excited that you're here. And we hope you'll hang out with us more.

JoJo (15:40)
And I'm just going to say did I cost Jin's ears?

Dr. Angie (15:44)
You did. But you know what? Could we pass? Like if I dug?

JoJo (15:45)
I think I did. More non-gen Z'ers. I just it

too. I'm talking about my kids. Yeah, okay.

Dr. Angie (15:53)
I know.

Well, yes, our kids are Gen Z-ers. We're X.

X marks the spot. OK, we'll see you guys next time. Bye.

JoJo (16:05)
Take care.