#46 Winning The War Against Pride: Practicing Humility For A Fuller Life ---Part 1 of Virtue Series

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We explore why humility sits at the root of spiritual growth and how pride quietly fragments our lives. Practical tools, scripture, and real habits show a path toward character that influences home, work, and community with integrity.

• defining virtue as habit and vice as distortion
• culture of self-promotion contrasted with holiness
• catechism insights and the aim of becoming like God
• beyond avoiding sin toward practicing virtue daily
• faces of pride: ambition, presumption, vanity, stubbornness, pretension
• marks of humility: docility, obedience, submission, pliability, modesty
• lessons from Peter’s failure and restoration
• simple weekly practices to grow humility
• why virtue makes life easier and more abundant
• preview of gluttony and diligence in the next installment

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Transcript

Welcome And Series Setup

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Hello and welcome to my podcast. My name is Sharon Murphy, and I'm a certified life and mindset coach, and I help women who seek to be happy and holy. Each week I'll bring you tools and insights to help you on your journey to the heights. I'm so glad you're here. Humble pie. What comes up for you when you hear me say that humble pie? Maybe nothing. Have you ever heard of that? I don't think my mom ever said that to me, but I know it was a phrase that I've heard said, and maybe I'm dating myself again like I've done before. But when someone says, Oh, I had to eat humble pie, what did they mean by that? Well, I think they were just meaning that they were given a lesson in humility.

Humble Pie And Defining The Goal

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Today I'm going to be talking a little bit about humility and pride and the virtues and their vices. I'm actually going to be doing a few-part series about the virtues and their vices, and the s the vices that we struggle with, because I think it's a big part of the work that I do when I'm working with women. So often, the habits that we're trying to change, the things that we're trying to move away from in our lives, as we would deem sometimes bad habits or those things that are holding us back, they're actually vices. And what we want to move to is better habits, right? Better decisions, a life that seems easier, a life that isn't so challenging or difficult. And I believe the path to that is to grow in virtue. So today we're going to be starting to talk about that a little bit. And I'm actually going to be launching into humility and pride because these are the foundations to all the other virtue and vices. And for me personally, I'm working on humility this year. And let me explain why. Humility is actually my word of the year. Do any of you, do any of you have a word of the year? Have you heard of this? Now I know that everybody that is that's familiar with this, if you are familiar with it, it can look a little different. Some people at the beginning of every year choose a word of the year, and that's the word that they kind of use as their anchor. They pay special attention to it. It's something that they're always aware of and are trying to grow in or or learn from, something like that throughout the year. Now, for some people, you might use a random generator. Just like some people use this for their saint of the year. There's generators online that you can actually just go out and you click a button, you say a prayer, and you're given a random, it's a random generator where you're given a saint. The same thing is true for the word of the year. You might click on this, click on this box or this link, and it'll give you a word, and that is your word to pray through. The idea is the belief that we have is that that is given to us for a reason, that everything happens for a reason, right? That God is involved in all the details of our lives, and if that we're seeking to grow in some area that He's going to provide us with something that it will it has a special meaning or purpose. If you don't use a random generator, you might be somebody that prays about it and you let God reveal it to you. This is what I've done in the last several weeks of 2025 and leading into 2026. I spent time praying and asking

Word Of The Year: Humility

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God what He wanted me to work on. What was His word for me for 2026? And I felt in prayer that the word given to me was humility. I didn't necessarily love that response, but I felt in my heart that that is really what God was revealing to me. Of course, it was my pride that didn't like it, right? As we're going to hear about today, the way to overcome pride in our lives is to work on the virtue of humility. So I believe that's what God is calling me to, and maybe he's calling you to that as well. I'm not sure. But I want to say that right now we are living in a culture, and I think it's been true for all of existence, but I think right now we see this really, really prevalent, and maybe just because social media makes everything more apparent to us than in past. But we are rewarded for self-promotion, for visibility, for personal accomplishments, for personal branding. And yet scripture calls us to something radically different. If we are a person of faith and we are trying to grow in that faith to become better humans on our way to sainthood, holiness is something that we're striving for. And what scripture is calling us to is a holiness of our character. True spiritual maturity isn't, it's not just a knowledge of God, it's the formation of virtue. And so today we're going to begin a virtue series by looking at humility, which is, like I said, the remedy for pride. Back the topic of vice

Culture Of Self-Promotion Versus Holiness

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and virtue as a general. We must understand this. And we must understand that in order for us to see any transformation in our lives, we need to understand the battle between these two, between vice and virtue. So let's talk a little bit about what virtue is. The definition. So a virtue is a habit of goodness. It's a repeated choice that shapes our character to reflect God's nature. That's really what we're striving for. That's what virtue is. It's helping us to grow to reflect God's nature. And vice, the definition, it's really a habit of distortion. It's repeated choices that bend our character away from God's design. Both of these, as you notice, are habits. Virtue being a habit of goodness, vice being a habit of distortion. Let's look at what the catechism says. The catechism of the Catholic Church states that, and I'm going to read this, but stick with me. It's okay. I will go back and explain a little bit. But in chapter 1803, it states, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. That's that's scriptures. That's Philippians 4.8, and that is what's stated first of all in 1803 of the Catechism. It goes on to say a virtue is an habitual and firm disposition to do the good. It allows the person not only to perform good acts, but to give the best of himself. The virtuous person tends toward the good with all his sensory and spiritual powers. He pursues the good and chooses it in concrete actions. It

Virtue And Vice: Core Definitions

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goes on to say that the goal of a virtuous life is to become like God. So, virtue, it's an habitual and firm disposition to do the good. All right. It's a decision that we make, it's an act of the will. It's our desire to choose and to strive for the good. It's something that we must take on as our own responsibility to do so. It's not something that just is bestowed upon us. Now, there's different virtues, there's cardinal virtues, there's theological virtues, there's different things. And I'm not going to get into all those definitions, but just understand that it's a disposition to do the good and it's a habitual. That tells us that it's something that we need to decide, we have control over, and we may need to make a firm resolution to do these things. So I want to just start there so we understand what the role is and how we can adopt these virtues in our life. That it's up to us and it's a habit. So it states that virtue builds us into who God created us to be, right? That's what it states. Virtue create builds us into who God created us to be. And vice, it what it does is it slowly turns us into who we were never meant to be. We don't realize this when we're living our lives and we're choosing things that we'll get in, I'll explain a little bit more what I mean by this, but when we're choosing patterns of vice or habits that are distorted, it's actually turning us into someone we were never meant to become. And so as I've said before in this podcast, but Romans chapter 12, verse 2 is instrumental in the work that I'm doing. And it states, do not conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So just remember, spiritual life isn't only about avoiding sin, it is also about actively practicing virtue. It's absolutely necessary that we are actively pursuing virtue in our lives. And this is the key of the phrase of repentance that we talk about in our faith life. We've all heard it, repent and believe the gospel. But repent, it doesn't only involve turning away from wrongdoing or sin, but it requires us to turn toward the good, to practice a life of virtue. And I want to talk a little bit about that because many of us as Christians, we focus only on not doing wrong. Sometimes this is the basis of our own formation. If we look back on how we were taught or trained, all we were made aware of, or maybe that's all that we're holding on to or that we remember, is what not to do wrong. And if that's the basis of our lives right now, it's just avoiding doing wrong. That's going to make it really challenging for us to be growing and living an abundant life, to living in the fullness of to who we're called to be. And sometimes we even, if we're really honest with ourselves and we look, this is actually the basis of the way that we have raised our children, if we're parents. When we

Catechism On Virtue And Transformation

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train them when they're younger, we're steering them away from wrongdoing. And that's kind of what we do. But living a life of virtue, this actually requires intentional cultivation. It's like spiritual muscles. And without virtue in our lives, we tend to default back to our old patterns. I talk a lot here on our on this podcast about creating new patterns of thinking, about new creating new patterns of feeling and behaving or the way we act. So understanding the role that virtue plays is very important because we really want to know where we want to direct our thoughts so that they don't just lead us to feeling better, but rather that our thoughts and our feelings and our actions lead us to becoming a better person, a person of stronger character, not just in finding a way to feel better. And that's all part of it, but we need to know the outcome and what the end game is. Our goals are not just behavior modification, which is what we sometimes do with our kids when we're steering them away from the wrong. We're steering them towards, you know, avoiding the wrong things, like I said, which is good and it's necessary. Kids need to know that. We also needed to know that as children. But if we weren't given, and if we're not giving this to our children, we need to know where to direct that. We need to know how to live rightly, and that is practicing virtue. And that's where our transformation occurs. So if it's something that you haven't been given in your life, here's your chance to work on this. Or maybe this is just a way to grow in a better understanding of it, or maybe to refresh it. And it can also help you in the lives of those around you, especially your kids. So I talk about the transformation. And what we're really seeking here is a transformation to a life that's fulfilling and abundant. As mothers and as men, as fathers too. I know I have men out there listening, as leaders, as mentors, our character is what's going to influence others. We want to be people of influence, whether we know it or not, especially if we're in leadership roles or mentors or if we're parents, especially, we want to influence others and we want to influence them for the good. But we need to remember something. We reproduce who we are, not just what we teach. So if we want to have our loved ones and we want to see in the world a growth in virtue, a growth growth in goodness, it's not just for our benefit, but also for the benefit of others that we grow in virtue, because it does impact everyone around us. So let's talk a little bit about the virtue of humility and pride. Because I talked about humility being the foundation for all good virtue, it's the foundation for all virtue. Pride, the opposing, the vice, which we struggle with, that is the foundation for all of the other vices in our lives. So if we can tackle these two, we need to start here, I guess is a better way of saying it. So the definition of pride in very simple terms is self-exaltation. It's placing ourselves at the center instead of God at the center. Now, other ways of describing this or other ways that this might show up. There's different descriptors. We just use pride as uh, it's kind of the overarching, uh, and it encompasses a lot of different, a lot of different attributes. And I'm just going to name a few of them. Ambition. Ambition is

Beyond Avoiding Sin: Practicing Virtue

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a strong desire to achieve, accomplish, or advance, especially towards a goal. Ambition can be healthy when it's guided towards when it's guided by God's purposes. When it's guided by God's purposes, our ambitions can be good, but they become harmful when it's driven by our own ego rather than listening to the call of God. Ambition in itself isn't necessarily bad, but very often it's rooted in our own prideful ambition. So that's what we're referring to here. The next one is presumption. And presumption is really just assuming that something is true or guaranteed without seeking God's guidance or permission. Presumption sounds a little bit like I know what will happen, instead of like, Lord lead me. Presuming that we're going to know the outcome or that we have the ability to control the outcome. One of the ways that I see this show up is presuming upon God's mercy, presuming upon God's goodness, presuming that we will be forgiven. We sort of presume that all is well, that we are doing well enough. The next one is vanity. And vanity is an excessive focus on appearance, image, or personal importance. Now, vanity seeks admiration from others rather than approval from God. We don't have to look very far to see this in our culture. We can look on the cover of magazines, we can look in social media. Vanity is everywhere, right? Hollywood in celebrities, vanity, it's just it's apparent, right? The next one is stubbornness. And stubbornness is a refusal to change course, a refusal to consider counsel or to accept counsel from others. And it's also a refusal to surrender control. Stubbornness is basically digging our heels in and saying, I'm right, I don't want to consider anything else, right? It's closing ourselves off to any correction or growth. It's assuming that we have the answers, our way is right, and we're not open to what somebody else and most importantly God might be leading us towards. Now, another one is pretension. And pretension is presenting yourself, presenting oneself as more important, capable, spiritual, or knowledgeable than is truly the case. So if we're pretentious, we're sort of inflating ourselves. We're wearing a false image instead of walking in authentic humility. So these are all different faces of pride, and they might resonate with you just a little bit more because this is how they kind of manifest themselves. This is how pride manifests itself in our lives. When I talked about each one of these, you may see this as something that presents itself in your life. You may see this reflected in the way you show up sometimes. But that is pride. So let's take a look at humility now. Let's get to the good stiff. Humility, let's just say it's right-sized or appropriate self-awareness. And that is seeing ourselves accurately in light of God. That's really what it means. Humility is seeing ourselves accurately in light of God and who God is. I've heard it said like this before. Humility is not thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less. Humility is not about self-degradation, which is, I think that's what many of us

Influence, Leadership, And Character

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tend to think. Saying things like, you know, oh, I'm no good at that, or yeah, I'm not, I'm nothing, or I don't know anything, you know, I'm not, I don't know anything about this, or whatever. That isn't humility. It's actually pride in disguise. Humility is actually having a right understanding. It's not boasting, but it's also not self-degradation. It's just understanding that God is God and we are not. So here are some descriptions or ways that humility presents itself in our lives. This is a way that we can actively pursue humility. It gives us a little bit more concrete explanation as to what that looks like. So the first one is docility. And docility is a willing openness to be taught, guided, or corrected. It's accepting correction without having to like defend ourselves. As I talked about stubbornness, right before. Now the next one is obedience. Obedience is really just choosing to follow God's direction, even when it's uncomfortable or unclear. Obedience can be really challenging. It's challenging for me, and I know it's challenging for a lot of you. Obedience trusts that God's wisdom is higher than our own. When we understand who God is, obedience shouldn't be a problem. Because we're following someone who we believe to be good, who is looking out for us. When we're children, when we're really small, we're obedient to our parents because we know and we trust that they have our our best interest. As we grow, we start to move away from that. It's because we're actually growing in our own independence, but we start to get to be a little bit more disobedient. That's obedience. The next one

Faces Of Pride: Ambition To Pretension

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is submission. And submission is really just the voluntary yielding of our will to God's will. Or it's to yielding to the rightful spiritual authority. And submission, I must say, it's not weakness. It's really strength under God's appropriate order. Submission is not weakness. We really, really misunderstand that word. We think to submit is a weakness, and it's not. It's just understanding the proper order. And if we struggle with submission, that may be a sign that we're struggling with some areas of pride that we don't need to submit to somebody else. The next one is pliability. Implibility. Impliability, I know we don't use this word very often, but really that just means it just means having a heart that's flexible and responsive to God's shaping. You know, allowing ourselves to be molded rather than resisting. And it reminds me, I think a good way to remember what this really references is the reference to being clay in the potter's hands. How pliable are we? How willing are we to allow God to mold us into who he wants us to be? When we resist that, we're not allowing him to form us into who we're called to be, which is really our best selves, which is really the path to our most fulfilling, abundant life. And yet we resist it because we think we know better, right? Because there's not a proper order. The next one is modesty. Modesty falls into this category of humility because it falls into other categories as well. But what we mean here is just living with quiet dignity rather than drawing excessive attention to ourselves. When we're modest, we don't need to draw attention to ourselves. We don't need to have excessive flattery or attention or approval or acceptance from others. Modesty, it reflects humility both in our spiritual life and in the way we present ourselves to the world. We don't need to draw attention to ourselves so that we can feel inflated or feel more important. And modesty is a part of that. So these are the postures of humility: a teachable spirit, a surrendered will, a flexible heart that allows God to mold us into who he wants us to be, and a life that quietly reflects God rather than ourselves. So this is what God is calling me to this year. And maybe you as well. Maybe you as well. And as I might be tempted to resist this, some of these words, I when I read them, there's a part of me, there's a part of my human nature, there's a part of me that pride is still very prevalent, wants to resist these things. But we're reminded throughout scripture of the need for humility. And I can give many references. One that I really like is in James chapter four, verse six. God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble. God gives his grace to the humble. He opposes the proud. We see this throughout all of Scripture, the ways in which the fall of those who are led by their pride, who are victims of pride. And yet it is part of our human nature we fall into this. So it's necessary for us to fight our ways, fight our way through this, to understand that we need to form the habits of humility. And just as we read it in scriptures, right, we also see people within the Bible who have struggled with this throughout all of the Old Testament, but even into the New Testament. One of my favorites being the story of Peter. God loved Peter. He was so strong and so convicted. You know, what does he say as they're at the Last Supper?

What Humility Really Looks Like

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The Lord talks about, you know, his followers and them coming after him. He's at the upper room, and Jesus and excuse me, Peter comes out and says, essentially, I'm paraphrasing here, but basically, Lord, even if everyone else falls away, even if everybody else turns against you, now I won't. I won't. He basically says, Lord, I'm prepared to die for you. And yet we know how that goes. Within hours, he denies them. Not once, but three times. But what does Jesus do? Jesus still offers him the opportunity to come back. And we know that later on, Peter is restored, right? He learned through humility. Humility often grows through failure and God's mercy. And this is exactly what happened here. The key lesson is that Peter accepted this. He accepted the correction. He accepted in humility the fact that he fell. And his relationship was restored with God. We know that in the other, in another story here, Judas, he betrayed Jesus, right? He betrayed Jesus as well. We know how that he's the one who turned him in for a few gold coins. And yet, on the contrary, he did not turn back to God in humility. He remained in his pride. He thought he was beyond God's goodness and God's mercy. He didn't allow the Lord in. He didn't understand who he was in relationship to God. And we know his end. He hung himself. He did not accept it. His relationship with the Lord was not restored. So we must remember that at times humility needs to grow through failure. Sometimes we need to experience failure. Because our pride, because of our pride, because of the pride, we we don't allow the correction. When when everything is going well, we just think that we got it. It's only when we fall, it's only when we experience failures that we are reminded again of our shortcomings. We're reminded again of our littleness. We're reminded again that God is God and we are not, and that we need Him for all that we have. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about why humility is the foundational virtue. Humility is the foundational virtue because all other virtues, and I'm going to talk a little bit more about these in a few up in the upcoming episodes, but humility is what is necessary for all the other virtues to flow from. Because without humility, we cannot learn. Without humility, we cannot repent. Without humility, we cannot serve. And humility is the virtue that opens us up to God's grace, which is necessary for us to live a life that is pleasing to God. I've been speaking a lot about parents and how when we lead our children, right? But the need for humility is crucial for all of us, even if you're not parents, because we are all called to be leaders, whether it's in our communities and as our in our homes, of course, but in our businesses, in all the arenas of our lives. And we've all experienced this. We've experienced leaders or people who are in charge of us or people who are in authority who are puffed up with pride. Whether that was coaches in high school that we had in sports, or whether it was teachers, whether it was our bosses, it might have been our parents, unfortunately. It might have been people within the church who are in authority. We've experienced that when they are, you know, they're puffed up with pride, when they're stubborn, when they're pretentious, when they're arrogant. And we know the effects that has on us. It's not fun. However, hopefully we've also experienced what it's like to be under the authority or to be able to be led by people who are humble. Because humble leaders, they create safe spaces for us. We feel comfortable to be ourselves. We feel comfortable to make mistakes. We

Scripture, Failure, And Mercy

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feel comfortable to be transparent, to be vulnerable. Humility is a place where God's strength is present. We understand that it's not about us, that it's not about our own self-reliance. So I've been talking a lot about humility, but let's talk a little bit about how to grow in humility. How can you grow in humility this week? So I'm just going to give you a couple of simple things to work on. As always, it starts with awareness and you need to take some time to slow down and to ask God in prayer. He's going to reveal to you if pride is a problem, which, spoiler alert, it probably is. Each of us as human beings struggle with pride. As I said, all other vices flow from this. So if you're struggling with any vice, which if you're here listening and you're here walking this earth, you're struggling with vice. The only perfect people are those who are in heaven. So that's just part of our path, right? So don't become discouraged. But if you're struggling to understand where pride is manifesting itself in your life, that's probably a better way of pointing it out. If you're struggling to understand where pride is manifesting itself, all you really need to do, again, you can listen to God in prayer and ask him. He'll reveal this to you in scripture reading or in your journaling. But also ask your loved ones. Your loved ones are a really good gauge. If you want to know, if you are struggling with pride, all you have to do is think about the ways in which they have pointed out your faults to you, in your disagreements, in your arguments, in the way things have been handled. Have they told you that you're stubborn? Have they told you that, boy, I just can't tell you anything? They don't like to be that you don't like to be corrected? Are you achieving all your goals and aspirations in your life, but maybe you still feel empty? Like something is missing? It could be maybe that you're the one that's driving the bus. Maybe all that you're going after and you're seeking is just selfish ambition. And it's not really what God is calling you to in your life. Because while you might be accomplishing it, if there's an emptiness, if there's something that feels unfulfilled, if there's an ache, it's likely that you're the one calling the shots versus God to move on. Whenever you're about to do something, just pause and ask yourself, you know, right, is this about God's glory or is it about mine? Next, invite feedback from your loved ones. They're gonna reveal any blind spots to you. Trust me. Next, I want you to serve in some unseen ways. And by that I really just mean serve others.

Why Humility Is Foundational

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Practice obedience. Practice obedience in ways that are quiet. You don't have to announce it to other people. If you're trying to be obedient, do it without seeking attention. That's a great way to grow in humility. If you're gonna do something that is obedient to somebody else, it's bonus points if it's to your spouse or even to your children, perhaps, or to your parents. Don't announce it. Don't say, I'm doing this for you. Did you notice that I did that? Just do it and serve in obedience. That's a great practice in virtue. And it's a it's much more challenging than you think it is. But it is a practice. Like I said, it's a habit. And then also pray daily, Lord, show me where pride is present in my life. And also show me where pride is hiding that I'm not even aware of it. I'm also gonna give you another thing that I have been working on since the beginning of the year, and that is to pray the litany of humility. I'm gonna attach it in the show notes. There's gonna be a link. And you might be familiar with it. Maybe you have a copy of it. If you don't, you can click the link in my show notes and it should lead you there. If not, send me a quick message and I can make sure that I get that out to you. But and I've been praying this daily, and I'm gonna warn you that if you wonder if you're someone who's struggling with pride, if you feel like you're someone, better yet, if you feel like you're someone who is not struggling with pride, I invite you to read this. I invite you to read this. Because any of these petitions that are painful to you, and there will be some that are painful, they're gonna reveal an area of pride in your life that God wishes you to work on. This is a way that God will speak to you and reveal to you areas of pride in your life. And I'm gonna say the litany is not for the faint of heart, but I can assure you it's gonna produce the results that you're desiring in your life, which brings up a really good point. I'm talking about the results that you're desiring in your life. And I should have addressed this earlier, so I apologize. But the point of why would you even want to grow in virtue? I already touched on the fact of, you know, it's it's to help us to become more like God. But let's bring this down to a more human practical level, right? On a very human level, what this means for us is that it makes our life easier. When we live a life of virtue, although it's challenging to practice and it's difficult at first, it's just like anything else that we take on in the beginning. It's more challenging at first. It's like any exercise routine, it's any new habit we're trying to form, it's any new thoughts we're trying to become better at practicing. It's difficult at first, but it's a it's a way that we grow. It's a way that it evolves, right? And so the more we do it, the easier it's gonna get. And as the easier it gets to practice these virtues, the easier our lives become because we're called to live lives of virtue. That is the way our lives are designed to be. Not only does it help us become

Growing In Humility: Practical Steps

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saints, it also helps us become better humans and it makes our lives easier. But I again I want to remind you that virtue, it isn't instant. This is, it's formed through faithful practice. And it's something that you're gonna grow in. This is your life's work. This is part of the ascent. This is part of our path to the heights. And God, I just want to remind you that God is very gentle in this work. If you're fearing like what this might look like, I don't want to pray for humility because I'm gonna end up being humiliated. You may be, but God also knows your heart, right? And he's very gentle. He's very gentle and compassionate in the way he works with you. And just remember, humility, it's not very honored, it's not very admirable in our world today, but it does not diminish you. It actually frees you. Humility is what frees you, it's the path to a fulfilling, abundant life, a life that is free of bondage to sin, to vice. That's what we're looking for. That's really our end goal. And in our next episode, we're gonna be talking about another virtue and the battle against vice. It's not gonna be humility and pride. We're gonna get into some other ones. We're gonna be talking about things that we might see in gluttony, which is really overeating, overdrinking, possibly diligence, which is the virtue of persevering to attaining your goals and following through. So there's gonna be some good things, and it's all gonna tie into living a life that you desire, living a life that leads you to being not just holy, not just happy, but happy and holy, which is what I think we all desire. Thank you again so much for joining me. I hope you have a fantastic day, and until next time, onward and upward, my friends, to the heights. Thanks so much for listening today. If you have any questions or would like to go deeper into this topic or how it affects you in your own life, you can find me at Sharon KCoaching.com. That's Sharon the Letterk Coaching.com. If you've enjoyed listening, please subscribe and leave a review on your favorite platform. And feel free to share with anyone you think might benefit from what you've heard.