Rule Of Law Or Rule By Force

Coffee smells better than it tastes—and sometimes so does “rule of law.” We open with that honest sting and follow the trail through free speech fights, press access showdowns, and a Federal Reserve standoff that reveals how accountability works until it lands on untouchable turf. From there, we widen the frame: Senator Rubio calls time on the old order, while Palantir’s Alex Karp argues the next era will be decided by technology and culture. If America wants its values to set global norms, then chips, software, and the First Amendment aren’t separate topics—they’re the same strategic play.

We dive into AI with Elon Musk’s “Macrohard” vision: companies with digital outputs can be emulated, intelligence becomes cheap, and prices fall as productivity explodes. That challenges how we read CPI, energy, and affordability, and it reframes “universal high income” as deflation-by-innovation rather than redistribution. But disruption isn’t just theory; it’s a test of social resilience. If abundance arrives, do our institutions keep pace—or protect incumbents by gatekeeping the conversation?

Elections become the hinge of trust. We unpack 2024’s cleaner process claims, the push for the SAVE Act, and how “plausible believability” shapes what voters accept. Along the way, we connect affordability data, policy choices, and brand drift inside the Democratic coalition. Then we trace the widening Epstein fallout—unsealed pages, resignations, and emails that puncture curated reputations—and the Minnesota fraud saga, where program failure pushed a disabled tenant onto the street. Bureaucratic rot has a human price.

This is a map of power in motion: speech and access, money and secrecy, AI and geopolitics, polls and legitimacy. If there are two systems vying for tomorrow—liberty or control—speed and courage decide who writes the rules. Listen, share with a friend who tracks both tech and politics, and leave a quick review with your biggest insight or disagreement. Your voice helps keep the marketplace of ideas open.

Transcript

Cold Open And Peasants Persona

SPEAKER_15 0:33

The revolution's gonna be sure. It's a little gummy. It's a little gummy. It's a gummy. Peasants, ma'am. We're just peasants. Every one of us. You watch those old movies, you see the peasants in the background with the kings and kings walking around. We're those people. We're those people.

SPEAKER_14 1:02

Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of The Peasants Perspective.

SPEAKER_15 1:06

I'm so glad you joined us today. I looked over at Ron and he looked up like, whoa, oh, it's not the exciting. Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of The Peasants Perspective. I'm very pensive this morning. We got kicked out of the gym. Oh. Yes. So the routine is my wife and I go wake up at 4, 3:30 in the morning. We get ready. We go to the gym. Gym opens at 5 a.m. Walk in, do about 30-minute, 45-minute, intense workout, show up here, do the show. Well, this morning we got there and they're like, What's your name, sir? Because I'm, you know, apparently I'm an observer on the list and you're not allowed to work out. So we were looking at it, and it was like, well, a family is one adult plus kids. I'm like, a family's two adults.

SPEAKER_33 1:49

What?

Gym Story And Simultaneous Sip

SPEAKER_15 1:50

Your default, your default family is what I call a broken family. So I said that and I felt kind of bad about it. But we looked, and apparently in Idaho, it's two parents is a family. But in Washington State, only one parent is a family. I thought that's lame. That's the difference. Yeah. So then they were like$20 for a day pass. We're like, for a 30-minute workout, you're crazy. But I know you're not here about to hear about my workout woes. You're here for the simultaneous sip. Carlitz, good morning. Carlito and Tiffany. What up, my peeps? Body Easel. Good morning. My son. Hi, mom. Uh, 1776 PMA. So Cal is in the house. And Pony Boy, good morning. We got some Texas, Idaho, and California live with us. Wonderful. All right, the simultaneous sip. I know why you're here. It's the simultaneous sip. All you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tinker, a chalice or stein, a canteen, jug, or flask, a canteen, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee this morning. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip.

SPEAKER_05 2:56

Why that coffee smells good? And it's funny how coffee never tastes as good as it smells.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

As you grow older, you'll discover that life is very much like coffee. The aroma is always better than the actuality. May that be your thoughts on the day.

Coffee Metaphor And Show Theme

SPEAKER_15 3:10

All right, guys, we've got a good show for you today. Lots of great stuff happening, all in the background of the Epstein Fallout. Although, I have to say, this Epstein stuff is changing the face of the world. There are things happening. There have been arrests made in other countries of very high-up dignitaries. Okay, so things are happening in the background. Um, but we're not gonna dwell on that too much today. We're gonna spend some time talking about the rule of law. Did you know that Joe Biden was the living embodiment of someone who subjected himself to the rule of law?

SPEAKER_02 3:45

What is before us is a president who is living the rule of law, he is living it in the most in the most personal way. He is not pardoning um his son, um, which he could do. These are federal charges. He is not doing that. He is not doing it because he is living what it means to have a rule of law in this country. And then is it isn't, I mean, if you want to know if he believes it, you you could actually see what is happening with his own son. I'm I mean, I'm not saying that he should get credit for it because it is the right thing.

SPEAKER_24 4:24

That's the normal thing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

It's that you you the idea that you can't see it, or is that really what's going on? Or when you can see the what he is actually living by is his own son is being prosecuted, and he is um allowing the norms that are required to live in a democracy to go forward.

Rule Of Law Claims And Censorship

SPEAKER_15 4:45

Yeah. How old is that clip? That was 2024. Like um, I can't believe we haven't played that guy before. That's that's uh Andrew Weissman. So Andrew Weissman was Mueller's left hand right-hand man. He ran the Mueller investigation because Mueller was having mental issues. In fact, Mueller's in a retirement home right now with all climbers, which we clearly saw when he went to testify. Uh, I don't know, I haven't read, I haven't read my own report. That's the guy who ran the whole Russia Gate thing. That's the guy who had his other attorneys deleting their cell phones and destroying them, right? Like that's that guy, the rule of law guy, you know. Oh, the Biden, look, he's so rule of law. If you want to know what real rule of law looks like, it's not subjecting yourself to every tiki-tacky code or statute just because, right? Following the rule of law looks like this. In America, it's about standing by our real principles. So compare and contrast the Biden administration, where Joe Biden was the living embodiment of rule of law, and think about the things they did to violate the very first amendment to the bill uh to the constitution, the one that says that you're not allowed to infringe on people's speech. They were actively censoring across all platforms any information that they didn't like. They cut off access to independent journalists and things like that. This right here is uh, I think her name is Caitlin Collins. I forget some of these journalists' names sometimes. But Caitlin Collins is talking about when she went on a foreign trip and she says something to Carolyn Levitt's credit. This is an very adversarial reporter.

SPEAKER_31 6:21

When we were in Saudi Arabia and we were on a foreign trip with the president, and he came in with all the other leaders, including the Saudi Crown Prince. They famously do not like the media there. Um and um, to put it lightly, and I asked a shouted question to President Trump, who had seen me when the US press came in. He didn't answer, which is, I mean, that's how it worked. You shout questions, they either answer or they don't. It's their prerogative, and then the world leaders left the room. The Saudi Royal Guard kind of freaked out because I dared to ask a question. And they're not used to that there because they don't have a free press. And so they came up and they said, Okay, well, you can't come into the next event, which was like two minutes later. And I was like, that's not how this works. I go on to the US press and they were like, Well, you're not coming in. And I could see them like whispering and pointing about me. And some of the younger White House staff that were they are with the press weren't really sure what to do. And they went to Caroline. And to her credit, she said, No, Caitlin's coming in with the rest of the US press. And we went in. And so it didn't become this huge issue because obviously, if I'd not been allowed in, you know, this is something that has happened with the North Koreans when the president visited the DMZ and Sarah Huckabee Sanders was the press secretary. And so to her credit, she without a doubt was like, No, you're coming in, right? Which I do think is important in that moment, especially when you're kind of the US contingent abroad, and we don't do things like they do in Saudi Arabia.

Press Access: Saudi Trip And Olympia

SPEAKER_15 7:44

Isn't that interesting? Right? You could have had an opportunity to cut off her access, could have stopped her while she's down, and instead she came to her defense. Yeah. No, you're coming in. We believe in a free press, we believe in freedom of speech because that's what rule of law looks like. Yeah. Not the nonsense where, well, you know, I mean, the default is let your son cry. And uh, that's good. I mean, he shouldn't get praised, but this is living rule of law. Meanwhile, the only freaking thing Joe Biden ever signed was that Bardin, right? And then you've got uh Tom Tillis. Tom Tillis, there's over at the federal Well, hold on, before we go on.

SPEAKER_21 8:21

Are we gonna do a compare and contrast with how Brandy Cruz is being treated? Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_15 8:26

I didn't think about that. But Brandy Cruz is a local Washington reporter who used to work for Seattle Times. And uh at some point she kind of broke off on her own and did her does because she wanted to do her own independent reporting.

SPEAKER_21 8:39

Well, and she worked at Cairo TV for a long time, right alongside with Dory Monson.

SPEAKER_15 8:44

Yes, clearly a member of the press. Right. Well, she's been denied press access down in Olympia, Washington. Along with a whole bunch of other people. Along with Ari Hoffman and a lot of our local radio hosts who lean conservative, which by the way, on the radio in Washington, the conservatives are what Missouri would call far left progressives. I mean, we're not that conservative here. I mean, you know what I mean? Like if boys are boys, oh my gosh, what are you wearing a Nazi swastika? You know, I mean, it's it's you know, the the standard of being a conservative in Washington is pretty low. Like Brandy Cruz in a normal world would not be considered a conservative.

SPEAKER_21 9:18

No.

SPEAKER_15 9:19

But, you know, wanting to preserve, you know, feminist values in women's sports seems to be just too much. Yeah. So no, it is a compare and contrast, right? What does rule of law look like? Rule of law when it comes to freedom of press means access, it means allowing you to say stupid stuff. A marketplace of ideas. If they say something that's wrong, then tell the truth.

SPEAKER_21 9:40

But this very thing, you know, this is what people need to understand. In Washington, just now, just like within the last few days, Brandy Cruz was had her press pass taken away, and she's not allowed to come into the Capitol to report on everyday stuff.

SPEAKER_24 9:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_21 10:01

Where are we living?

SPEAKER_15 10:03

Where are we living? Exactly. Where are we living? What is going on? Um, we've got this. Um, this is Tom Tillis. So the Federal Reserve has spent billions of dollars on this renovation that they've been doing. It's going to be the most expensive building on the face of the planet cost per square foot. I mean, it's stunning how much money they're spending on this renovation. And Trump has said things like, they're not even building walls, they're just putting a new facade on them. Like, wow. Okay. Tom Tillis is big bad because the uh the civil rights department has sent criminal subpoenas to Jerome Powell for information about this because they've refused to comply with anything. Now, the Federal Reserve is this quasi-governmental organization. It's not regulated by the purse strings of Congress, which makes it an unconstitutional thing. Um, and it sits in the private. It sits in the private where we the people sit. And uh, and so it's not it's not a real government agency, but it is. It's one of those things like our constitution doesn't allow us to have a Federal Reserve. So we created it under the United States, but then we set it unaccountable to the United States. Right.

SPEAKER_21 11:17

So it's like adjacent, which is kind of a weird way to describe it.

SPEAKER_15 11:21

Yeah, and its sister organization is the IRS, which collects the taxes, collects the interest payments. That's the idea there. So you would think that this organization, right? People have been calling to audit the Fed for years and years. I mean, this is the whole basis of the Tea Party movement. And Ron Paul, good gravy, that guy's been saying it forever, and Rand Paul's continued the message. But Tom Tillis, Republican senator from North Carolina, and we have a pretty strong listening group in North Carolina that listens at least on audio. Um, Tom Tillis from North Carolina is getting ready to retire. He's all big mad over the J6 issue, wouldn't uh nominate or put his vote to anybody that's any any lawyer or cabinet secretary or judge that had anything to do with J6 or supported J6. And here he is. Remember, the Biden regime was the rule of law presidency, right? But now that the Trump administration is trying to have some rule of law, here's a sitting senator on the floor of the Senate basically saying cancel that criminal investigation that has real reasons. Those warrants were not, they were signed by a judge. Okay. Listen to Tom Tillis.

Federal Reserve Renovation And Subpoenas

SPEAKER_07 12:31

I will not allow any board member for the Federal Reserve to go through the banking committee for chair or for replacement of expired terms until this matter is settled. I have no problem.

SPEAKER_15 12:46

What matter? The subpoenas, the criminal subpoenas to Jerome Powell at the Federal Reserve.

SPEAKER_07 12:52

Make the investigation go away, or I won't vote for nobody with us having an investigation, like we should with so many other areas of government. I'd like to have oversight for the East Wing construction to make sure that that stays on target and doesn't go over budget. I'd like to have oversight into the upfit of the Qatari 747 as a new Air Force One kind of Air Force light because you can't take it out of the United States. All of those are taxpayer dollars being spent, and we should have visibility into that. So count me in for doing an investigation for the uh comments on that day. The two minutes of testimony that is the only reason I'm at the floor today and refusing to allow a Fed board member to be confirmed. Because I feel that strongly. And for that reason, until the investigation is resolved, I cannot and I will not vote to support anyone on the Federal Reserve in my remaining tenure in the U.S. Senate. So read between the lines there. What's he saying?

SPEAKER_21 14:15

I honestly don't know.

SPEAKER_15 14:17

Arctic Frost was the investigation that Jack Smith did and the DOJ did into Republican members of Congress and the conservative ecosystem. It was broad-reaching. Charlie Kirk and TP USA was under surveillance under Arctic Frost, right? Including sitting members of Congress and the Senate. So he's saying if you think that was bad, imagine what'll happen if they actually investigate the Federal Reserve. Imagine all the people that are on the payroll there. You think it's bad what Arctic Frost was doing. Imagine there's there's a billion dollar overrun at the Fed Reserve. Just around the corner. Ooh, what's talking? Just around the corner from us. Guys, this right here is a tip-off. Shady stuff is going on when Tom Tillis is like, I won't even consider voting for replacements of retiring or fired board members unless you make the investigation go away. But I'm all for accountability and auditing and looking, but not at the Federal Reserve.

SPEAKER_21 15:13

Why? That is weird. Where is that? What's it? RFK? Yeah, let's where is it playing from? I don't know. I have I keep muting it.

SPEAKER_09 15:25

Some of the telegrams.

SPEAKER_21 15:27

Okay, I'll find it.

SPEAKER_09 15:28

Um that could have hold on, don't have to mute it.

SPEAKER_15 15:31

I just gotta find the page that's playing that. Here it is. Found it. All right, we're gonna hear that later, and everybody's gonna laugh really hard. Okay, so this is Marco Ruby. The world order is changing rapidly. Guys like Tom Tillis, guys, things are changing. There's gonna be a house cleaning, but there's a new system being placed, put in place right under our feet. The world is changing very fast, right in front of us.

SPEAKER_08 15:56

The old world is gone, Frankie. The the world I grew up in, and we live in a new era of geopolitics, and it's gonna require all of us to sort of re-examine what that looks like and what our role is going to be. And uh it's we've had many of these conversations that private many of our allies, we are our allies, and uh either continue to have those conversations, and and I think Saturday openly in the meeting while there we move the world is changing rapidly, and yesterday it took a huge leap forward.

World Order Shift: Rubio And Palantir

SPEAKER_15 16:24

And we're gonna talk about just that. There's a guy named Alex Karp. He's the CEO, um, he's one of the CEOs of Palantir, and he has this to say, and I think this is really important. Marco Rubio said, the world I grew up in as a kid is gone. What's the world you grew up in? It's one, the Cold War era, where you had two superpowers, Russia and the United States of America, vying for control of the world. Russia failed. Then we've had a hegemonic power where we've just been the sole superpower in the world, but we've now seen the rise of China, where China is, you know, right there on our heels. And what's happening is the a lot of these people that are around in the 90s, there was a reset happening. And you had multilateralism, and this goes all the way back to World War II. But by the time the Soviet Union failed, multi-the-the idea that multilateralism and this the UN system would become the new world order and would become dominant, it's failed. I mean, it's 20 years and it's it's already failed. And it's failed for a lot of different reasons. But right now, at this moment, it doesn't matter what was, you can't go back and fix it. It's kind of like the new national security doctrine that Donald Trump put out. The Europe is 20 years, it's gone. Like we can't even consider it any more long-term picture because it has nothing to offer. That's a stunning, stunning just admission to just say Europe's gonna have to figure out their own thing. We might not even be allies with them in 20 years. I mean, you might be facing a nuclear-armed France that's run by an Islamic state. You know what I mean? Like we're we're in a tough spot. So this guy, right, this guy right here, um, Alex Carp, he's basically saying there's two systems right now and they're competing. And it's a zero-sum game. One will win and one will operate in the shadows, or the other will win and the other will operate in the shadows. There's no middle ground.

SPEAKER_05 18:15

You can only explain the promise of AI if you understand and embrace the superiority of America and its culture. Because there are dangers in AI. But the reality is there's only two cultures that are going to win in the next year. It's gonna be us or China. At this point, we when we talk about Europe, we do exactly the same thing as when we hear about educational programs in led by mayors or safety programs in the inner city. We just say that I really hope it works out. Please and I want Europe to win, but we're on our own. Uh and and that of course there are dangers in AI. And AI is also and will never be anything other than a dual-use technology. But we must must embrace our ability to build it, our ability to own the chips, to own the software, build the large language models, and run very, very quickly. Because again, to quote Huntington, again, if we are not the ones controlling the violence, we will not be dictating the rule of law. The things we hold precious in this culture, I would say embodied by our Constitution and especially in our first four amendments, those things will not be the same if we are not the dominant technological culture in the world. While we may have tons of disagreements on these things, we must the the those are really the alternatives. And most of what we can do, in my view, to counter our adversaries is also to build the technology, and then you know, one of the lessons of Palantir is no one's coming to defend you. You have to defend yourself. We used to live in a world where you could rely on experts to articulate our vision. But who showed up to articulate our vision in this last election in my hometown, formerly hometown. Like we if we're waiting for people to articulate and fight for us, we are cooked. And like, and and it's and so we're cooked.

SPEAKER_15 20:22

Which is why over at 771776Live.us, the message is you have to be the change you want to see in the world. You have to embrace the the fact that you're it when it comes to your household and your finances, you're it. You gotta be in charge. And AI is here to stay, right? There are Luddites out there that want want us to not ever have AI, and I gotta admit there's a part of me that kind of wants to be that guy. Like, can't we go back to just camping in the woods?

SPEAKER_21 20:47

And well, last night, you know, I took my son down to West Sound Tech, you know, it's a local technical institute, and we were talking about anyways. We had to have a discussion about the future of trades and jobs and how AI will impact that. And that's not a conversation I ever thought I would have to have.

AI Race, Free Speech, And Constitution

SPEAKER_15 21:10

No, no, really. I thought Jetsons would be like my great-great-grandkids, right? We're like on the verge. And for people that think that, well, you know, let's not use AI or whatever, guys, it's like saying let's not use the internet 25 years ago.

SPEAKER_05 21:23

You know, it's like it's kind of here. If if we didn't have the adversaries we'd have, I would be very in favor of pausing this technology completely. But we do. And that that's that's why pausing is just it it you can't pause it because it's a structural advantage both for the LLMs and algorithms. So leaving, you know, L what the the the getting this getting algorithms and LLMs to work in a classified context is going to take very specialized, very sp I could explain how it works. But getting the fact is, this is gonna be a bonanza for the US economy.

SPEAKER_16 21:56

How concerned are you about China right now?

SPEAKER_05 21:58

Everyone's very concerned. I know I I think we were in a conversation this morning where I referenced, you know, when we started first talking about China and America, and I I was saying that this was not going to end well, that was a controversial statement. Now it's consensus. Um America is fairly unified that i in its idea that you know it it that China uh and ch people running China are not acting in a way we can accept. And I think the consensus, if I had to guess in China is uh we're never gonna get this back on the rails with America, so we should stop the aggression.

SPEAKER_15 22:34

If if we when you compare and contrast what the reporter said earlier about Carolyn Levitt letting her in, even after she said something controversial, compare and contrast that with the taxi driver in China that they had a little conversation about the government and technology said stop talking about that. And he immediately called the cops. Immediately called the cops. That was the second clip, right? That's the difference. When you have a technology that has the ability to completely cancel you, silence you, you know, all that stuff. That first four amendments of the Constitution become the thing that unifies us. We can disagree over tax rates, we can disagree over social safety nets, we can disagree over so many things. We can disagree whether if a cop looks through your untinted windows and seen evidence of a crime, does he have the ability to let's all like way advanced legal discussion? Let's have them. That's the American system. Let's debate right or wrong, but all agreeing that one, two, three, four, five, six, ten amendments matter all the way down to the last one.

SPEAKER_21 23:40

That the constitution was very you know instructional with this guy talking about the contrast with Europe.

SPEAKER_15 23:46

I mean, yeah, it's like you're just gonna have to let them. It's like the mayors that are like, Yeah, we're gonna try this new no-crime policy in our city. And he's like, Good luck. Everybody's looking at Europe like, good luck, you know, good luck growing your economy when you're silencing free speech because that's where ideas come from.

SPEAKER_21 24:05

Are you gonna play any clips from Katie Hobbs today? No. Oh, well, she just put out a qu uh thing that said, Wow, we just can't let grocery stores just close.

Musk On Macrohard And Abundance Deflation

SPEAKER_15 24:19

Oh man.

SPEAKER_21 24:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_15 24:21

Speaking of, right, so Elon Musk had this conference here. Again, this AI stuff's here to stay. It's here to stay. It's like the internet, it's here to stay in five, 10, 15 years. Every aspect of your world that can be improved by AI will be improved by AI, right? Every aspect of it. Some companies are going to exist with not a single employee.

SPEAKER_17 24:44

The Macroheart project is uh over time, actually, will will uh probably be our most important uh project because uh what we're talking about is uh emulation of entire human companies. So uh when you look at the most valuable companies in the world, they are uh their their their output is digital. Um so they they don't actually uh make hardware. So it should be possible to completely emulate uh any company that where the output is digital. Um and this will usher in an age of prosperity likes which uh we could barely imagine at this point. You need imagine to imagine it. Um so this is a big this is a big deal, and this is why the words macro hard are painted on the roof of the training cluster. Uh because that's what it's going to build. The macro hard project.

SPEAKER_15 25:37

So the concept here is any, and this is Elon Musk's prediction. Any corporation whose product is a digital output, you're out of business already.

unknown 25:47

Right.

SPEAKER_15 25:47

Sell your assets, you're done. He's just gonna create an emulator. He's gonna create an emulator. If your product is thinking, if your product is digital, you're done. Right. Right. Interesting. I wonder how this space will last. You know, are you guys gonna prefer AI hosts or real living hosts that slur their words and stumble on things? Pretty soon we'll both be a couple of max headrooms. Yeah. It's pretty incredible what you can do with AI on the editing side of things, but nonetheless, this future is upon us, whether we want it or not. Here's Elon Musk again talking about universal high income, but not because you're getting paid, but because abundance abounds.

SPEAKER_17 26:28

I call a AI and robotics the supersonic tsunami. Yes. Which maybe is a little alarming. Um it's good.

SPEAKER_33 26:36

It's good. Well, because they just like the breakup call. This is important for folks to to grok because um uh I don't want to leave people depressed. I want people to understand what's coming. So we're we're basically demonetizing everything. I mean, labor becomes the cost of capex and electricity. AI is basically uh intelligence available uh at a de minimis price. Um you're able to produce almost anything. Things get down to basic costs of materials and electricity. Right. Uh so people can have whatever stuff they want, whatever services they need. Um it's not when when we say universal high income, it it sounds like it's a tax and redistribute, but that's not the case.

SPEAKER_17 27:29

Um it's it's I think my best guess for how this will manifest is that prices will become prices will drop. Yeah. So as the efficiency of of production or the provision of services drops, um prices will drop. I mean pr you know, pr prices in in dollar terms are the ratio between the output of goods and services and the money supply. Sure. So if your output of goods and services increases faster than the money supply, you will have deflation and or vice versa. You know? So good thing we're growing the money supply so quickly then. Right. Exactly. I I I I yes. That's why I I I I can't like, let's not worry about growing the money supply, it won't matter. Because the output of goods and services actually will grow faster than the money supply. And I think we'll be in this and this is a prediction I I think some others have made, but um I I will add to it, which is uh that that I think governments will will actually be pushing to to increase money supply um like like faster. Yes. They won't be able to waste the money fast enough. Which is saying something for God.

SPEAKER_30 28:38

Isn't it isn't it crazy how close those timelines just randomly worked out? I mean the rate because we're we're expanding the national debt, not because we're anticipating AI. We were gonna do that no matter what. Yes. It's like right on the edge of becoming Argentina. But yeah, it's a bit of a lot of it.

CPI, Energy, And Policy Contrast

SPEAKER_17 28:53

So productivity is gonna improve dramatically. Um and it is improving dramatically. I I I I think we'll see. I think I think we may see high like high double-digit uh output of goods and services. We have to be a little careful about how economists measure things. Yes, measure landscape.

SPEAKER_15 29:11

Um yeah, a lot of our ways we've measured the economy is not gonna matter. And you have to recognize this. You can go back in time and you can make take some economic metrics, but when we talk about wealth and abundance, right, go to 1900. What did poverty look like in the 1900s? At the year 1900, what did poverty look like? No roof, no shelter, no food, bargaining your day labor for a penny's wage to buy lunch. You know what I'm saying? That's what poverty looked like.

SPEAKER_21 29:36

And then you do it over again every day.

SPEAKER_15 29:38

Fast forward it to the year 2000. And what does poverty look like? You don't work for food because there's an abundance of food. It's free at the shelter. You don't even have to worry too much about shelter because we've out of our abundance, we've built places for people to stay. You know what I mean? Like you probably have a car, you likely have a government-sponsored cell phone. Right. Life is somehow more stabilized. Yeah, so poverty in the year 2000 is completely different than the poverty in the year 1900. That's universal basic income. When the baseline level in America of poverty is an obese person, well, you're pretty well fed because baseline poverty in 1700 was skin and bones. You know what I mean? Like there's a difference that in fact we're almost the opposite in our society, we're repulsed by chubbiness, whereas 200 years ago, chubby meant abundance and wealth, you know.

SPEAKER_21 30:27

Well, this is one of the funniest things my granddad used to say, because uh he grew up in the depression, and he would say, Man, you'd follow a fat man to see where he'd eat. And I was like, whoa. And then the like the reality of the day like was impressed on my mind, like, oh, well, that just makes sense pragmatically. You would follow around the guy that looks like he's eating good to see where he's getting good chow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 30:54

This was this happened yesterday, too. This is Mario Knoffall's reporting this, but it was reported in multiple places. Kremlin memo to Trump. Russia wants to re-enter the dollar system for energy deals. Now, that's a total reversal of Putin's de-dollarization push with China. Western officials are scratching their heads because it's unlikely for Putin to ditch eight Beijing. As in, you know, these people that have been saying Russia's our mortal enemy forever, and all of a sudden Putin's like, yeah, I want back on the dollar program. We don't live in a world where you're gonna have multi, multipolar powers. One side's gonna win right now, one side's gonna become the dominant system. Hopefully it's the United States. If Russia comes and joins us, we we're probably gonna win. But if Russia's kind of the one that can tip the scale one way or the other.

SPEAKER_21 31:37

So that is a really good sign, Ron. We should get Putin into the White House so that him and Trump can talk about hoaxes. Hoaxes?

SPEAKER_15 31:49

Today, this morning, just before the show, guess what?

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Upside surprise here, or a downside surprise. Year over year at 2.4 had been expected at 2.5%. Um, and I think one of the reasons is this rent of uh owner's equivalent rent coming in at a relatively low 0.2%, energy down 1.5%, gasoline down 3.2%, new vehicle sales up 0.2. I am looking for the core number, CPI year over year 2.4 X Ford Energy. That came in at consensus plus 2.5%. And real earnings were pretty good, up 0.5% after declining in the prior quarter in the prior month. Uh, so this looks like a good CPI number. Uh, you did have, by the way, a uh tick down in uh uh yields, as you might imagine. They were down at four upside.

SPEAKER_15 32:39

So we got lower price consumer index increase than expected, interest rates tipped down a little bit. And check this out there was a report on affordability.

Polls, Party Drift, And Electorate

SPEAKER_18 32:50

Overall inflation for the first year of Trump versus Biden. Uh Biden, overall inflation was up 4.3 percent, higher than Trump, just up 1.6 percent. Groceries under Biden in that time, up 3.8 percent with Trump up 1.3, and then when it comes to gas, this is crazy. Biden up 24.4 percent with Trump, it is actually down 5.4 percent. That is where the biggest difference is. And we heard from the HUD secretary, Scott Turner, this afternoon, they are racing to cut red tape for construction projects because the the belief among officials here is that if housing is the number one place where people are getting killed when it comes to affordability, if people are uh cutting red tape and able to build more houses and apartments, then the prices will come down. Pretty basic supply and demand in play.

SPEAKER_15 33:43

Will you know two plus two equals four?

SPEAKER_21 33:47

Remember uh Biden's first executive order of cutting up that pipeline. Oh, good.

SPEAKER_15 33:53

I wonder if that had 40,000 people as first moment.

SPEAKER_21 33:56

I wonder if that had anything to do with that bar chart.

SPEAKER_15 33:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_21 34:00

The gas price went wink.

SPEAKER_15 34:02

Yeah, so what was all I remember that the union came out and supported Biden, and then he fired 40,000 of their workers with the stroke of a whoa. And it was like, did the union bosses at least get paid? Like, holy smokes! And then the Keystone XL pipeline, the the funders said we're done. Like, even if you issued the permit, we're done. Took us 20 years to get it, we're done. It's done, like it's a dead project. Trump came back in, and you're not hearing about firing back up the Keystone XL pipeline. They abandoned that sucker in place. Wow. Now, a lot of people and a lot of our listeners fall into this category, right? You feel like the Democrat Party is the one that's moving. The CNN had to run this. No, we're we're rushing towards the 2026 midterms. You've got one side of the world that's like Republicans are gonna lose because presidents always lose the House on the first midterms, yeah. And, you know, this is just business as usual, and you can't beat history, and you know, oh my gosh, Trump's just scandal, scandal, scandal, scandal, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, on the other side, it's like, well, if we trim up these elections a little bit and if we get the census kind of cleaned up and we deport some illegals, I don't know how we don't win. Double-digit GDP. Double digit GDP. So obviously, these pollsters. Uh, Mark Rasmussen has put out a poll the other day where more Americans believe Biden was a better president than Donald Trump. It was a real poll results that he got. People think more fondly of Biden. Things were calmer under Biden. Okay, whatever. But it's the media frenzy. Under the media, everything's Biden's great, Biden's safe. Under Trump, it's even though inflation's going down, prices are going down. When inflation went up under Biden, they said it's a vibe. Sounds like it's really more of a report card on the gaslighting that was happening. It's a vibe fest. Yeah, they created kind of this illusion of everything's good. We're fixing everything. Trump broke, aka breaking it.

SPEAKER_29 36:02

So this poll is significant. Democratic base, right? But what about all that what about all Americans, right? How about all voters? Voters who say the Democrats are now too liberal. Look at this percentage. It's 42% in 96, 48% in 2013, now 58% in 2025 of all Democrats, all voters say that the Democratic Party is too liberal. The Democrats are moving to the left, the far left is gaining power, and there could be some electoral repercussions because what we see right now is voters, the clear majority, say that they are too liberal.

Save Act, Filibuster, And Elections

SPEAKER_15 36:33

This is really interesting. Most traditional Democrat voters are pro-union. They like labor. They like the working man.

SPEAKER_20 36:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 36:42

They're typically pro-free choice, which leans them into kind of a pro-abortion stance. They're typically um, they're typically going to be pretty level-headed as far as social services and taking care of people that really are in need. Nobody likes fraud. Nobody likes to see people taking advantage of the system, right? But the Democrat socialist side is like all for those things, you know, against those things, which is really weird. They're the most elite of all. They don't support the unions whatsoever, but they get their votes. So rational people, the John Fetterman crowd, are like, yeah, this Democrat Party's gone a little too far. And remember, they've since in the last four years, they flushed out Manchin and Cinema, who were kind of allegedly those middle-of-the-ground voters. And you've got Fetterman out there standing on his own, which frankly, if he wasn't like six foot seven, three hundred and fifty pounds, and partially brain retarded, he probably wouldn't be able to stand on his own. Like, there's a part of me that wonders if he's got enough brain damage that he doesn't recognize the threat against him.

SPEAKER_21 37:41

I'll also remember that people like RFK, who used to be Democrat that have been shoved out. Tulsi Gabber. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 37:47

These are not middle of the ground Democrats 10 years ago. No dark kids. They described it as the party left me. Yes, exactly. Elon Musk posts that meme all the time. Me, you know, slightly left of moderate. And it's like the party just keeps going and they're like red wing fascists. And they're like, What are you talking about? Okay. Scott Bessent, uh, Scott Bessant was on the squawk box and he's talking about elections. Now, this isn't the first time Scott Bessent's talking about elections, but he's encouraging the Senate to eliminate the filibuster and get the Save Act passed. Something else happened when Pam Bondi appeared before the House when they were talking about Epstein. She's like, You guys, all you want to talk about Epstein. Don't you see that the SP is at 50,000? 50,000 SP. So there's somehow a connection in the administration between the SP and all the distraction and noise with Epstein. You've got Scott Bessant here talking about the economy. He's the Secretary of Treasury. It should be nothing about, nothing but money, but he's over here talking about election integrity. There's a connection between these two things.

SPEAKER_25 38:48

Joe, the president couldn't have been more clear. I couldn't have been more clear a couple months ago. I had an editorial in the Wall Street Journal just saying we got to get rid of the filibuster. You know, the the the in game theory, uh, the the best known game is the prisoner's dilemma, and it's like who moves first. And if you have bad actors in the prisoner's dilemma, which the Democrats are, then you should move first. Like, you know, it's kind of kill or be killed. And clearly that uh Joe Joe Manchin, uh Kristen Cinema, uh the Democrats basically had nuked the filibuster, but they uh uh refre refuse to go along with it. And guess where they are? They're both sitting at home now, hopefully watching your show. And you know, I I think the Republicans need to be smart about this, and I think that they're may maybe the filibuster doesn't uh get withdrawn for everything, but there are things that we've we've got to do, you know, like like voter like voter integrity. Um and we've got to keep the government open. I mean, look, we are on the verge of another government shutdown, and the Democrats think this is the way to hurt President Trump, but they're willing to hurt the American people. We had the biggest, uh the longest shutdown in history. The economy still did did great because the uh all all the initiatives we put forward. But uh, I I think that we have to get on with the people's business, and if the Democrats shut the economy down again, it is a sign that they are good at that they are bad actors, they don't care about the American people, and we ought to move forward, not let the government shut down, have voter integrity, and many other of our signature issues.

2024 Election Integrity And Deterrence

SPEAKER_15 40:35

Scott Bessant, as the Secretary of Treasury, recognizes that if people have free elections, you're gonna get a good economy because we vote in our self-interest. But when we can't be certain that our self-interest is being expressed at the ballot box, you end up with the Democrats who nuke everything that's good. What is their objective? And it does lead back into communism. A lot of these guys are actual communist Marxists. That's the operating political theory that they have in the back of their head is collectivism. This is dangerous. Even people like Patty Murray, right? Like, Patty, don't you think we should have legals voting in our elections? Are you going to support the Save America Act? Senator Murray, now that the Save America Act has officially passed the house, can we count on you to join in to support it in the Senate? Nope. All right. At least straight up. We heard from Gollum. We heard from Gollum. Can you support? Nope. Well, Patty Murray, um, it seems like it would be a good idea to support it because according to Social Security, 28% of voter verifications have no match at the Social Security Administration. This comes from the Gateway Pundit. Since 2004, the Social Security Administration had provided a simple process to help states with verifying voter applications. It's called the HAVV system. States send the name to the DO and DOB and last four digits of the voter's social security number, and then SSA notifies the state if that person is deceased, alive, or matches Social Security records, or no match is found. A whopping 13% of all verifications processed in 2025 came back as no match. That's 318,217 of the 2.3 million seven million submitted since 2011. An astounding 28.8% of all submissions have come back as no match for the past 15 years. So you've got at least 25% plus of the voter registration doesn't come back as a social security vote person. Now, I know the Amish can sometimes register to vote without having a Social Security number. That's a thing. There's not that many of them. So it doesn't cover it. That doesn't cover it. The Democrats are getting smart with who they're running in these elections. They have run some real losers in the past. I mean, you can look at the current slate of uh House representative members that have been there for a while, the likes of Maxine Waters and you know, some of the And those were the winners. Those were the winners. But they're getting smarter. One of the things that you have to recognize in politics is this concept of plausible believability. Not plausible deniability, plausible believability. I could believe that. That's it. That's all they need you to say. And that was the whole point around the 2020 election and all the chaos and the lockdowns and all this. They just wanted the average Joe, the guy who doesn't pay attention, to go, I could believe that. I could believe Joe Biden won. Yeah, Trump shut down the economy. I could believe Joe Biden won. Oh, there was a riot on January 6th. Oh, I could believe Trump was trying to overthrow the government.

SPEAKER_21 43:40

I guess that could have happened, I guess.

SPEAKER_15 43:42

It's a plausible believability, right? So this is a candidate that's running on the Democrat ticket. She's she's she's running. Is it plausible that a candidate that looks like this and is articulate like this could win an election?

SPEAKER_03 43:56

When I get sworn into Congress, I'll be the youngest mom to ever serve. And I'm not telling you that to Brad. It's because it's ridiculous. I mean, do you know the youngest dad to have ever served?

unknown 44:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Exactly. Hi, I'm Elizabeth. I'm a former tank commander in the United States Army, and I'm a 29-year-old mom raising four young kids. My oldest actually turns five today. Some of them I grew myself, and others, I have the privilege of being their foster mom. I'm running for Congress in Virginia to flip the seat, Lou from an out-of-touch man who's held it for over 20 years. He doesn't know what life is like for us. I do. Sure, I could come on here and I could read off my professional resume full of big titles and degrees. But you know, the saying, if you want something said, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman. And my lived experience matters just as much as what's on my professional resume. Because I know daycare is unaffordable. I know buying a house is so far down the American dream, most of us will never see it. I am living this every day. I remember what it was like not being able to find formula in the grocery store, being terrified because I had a newborn at home. I know this reality because I live it. And if we want to fix it, we cannot elect politicians who are being paid for by these same companies that are making everyday life unaffordable for you and for me. I know our future is worth fighting for. And moms, we get the job done. Let's go, Virginia.

Fluoride, IQ Claims, And Health Tradeoffs

SPEAKER_15 45:23

So, not to overcritique this, but when I watch this, I see a very affluent woman who's probably not struggling to buy formula or have housing. You know what I mean? I'm like, it's a pretty nice home gym. I don't know. Maybe it's not a home gym. I have no idea. Plausible believability. She's running as a Democrat. But yet she's talking about the companies that keep prices high. That's all Democrats, sweetheart. All your donors, all the people that are going to donate to your super PACs, they're the people you're talking about complaining. But this is like the left's Marjorie Taylor Green. She's got the look, she's athletic, she's doing pull-ups, tank command. Plausible believability. You could easily steal an election for her. Easily. Because even conservatives would go, I could see how some guys would crossover vote just because of the look. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_21 46:12

I guess, yeah.

SPEAKER_15 46:13

They're going to find a lot of these candidates that have plausible believability where they have the look, and when they steal the election, it's easy for them to go, oh, well, maybe, right? Do you think illegal aliens are going to vote for her? Probably not. I mean, I can see why illegal aliens would vote for Maxine Waters or some of these other, you know, really give it away candidates that are kind of out there with, but she's not going to be that. She's the sheep, she's the wolf in sheep's clothing, so to speak. You know, she's talking about affordability and formula. That was caused by Biden. But yet you're going to run for his party? That doesn't make any sense. Right. Mark Wayne Mullins talks about how critical these elections have been and the difference between 2020 and 24. Okay. There was something that happened between 20 and 20 and 24, and Mark Mullins was key. He was briefed by Patrick Byrne, he was briefed by Elon Musk, and he's the one that put the dots together to make sure that that server room in Serbia was cooked. So he kind of alludes to this just a little bit, talking about Elon Musk being prominent. And there were some other figures too. These are persona non grata in public media, Patrick Byrne and whatnot. And so, but the way he describes this is he basically says 2024 was different because they knew we were watching, but now they're back up in the corner where it no longer matters that we're watching. It matters who wins, and then who can convince the American people through plausible believability that they won.

SPEAKER_27 47:34

23 is when I really don't dove into it. Um really, because now we're getting in the midterms and we're like, okay, what do we do to to voter integrity, right? And when you started diving into it, the farther you go into, it just doesn't. I get pulled up signal messages right now that that I I've uh that I've been getting last night that I haven't checked yet, that's still working on this because voter integrity is the most important thing. Like I said, the way you can destroy our election system is for people not to trust our elections. And we President Trump wants voter integrity more than anything, and we want to deliver that for him. And I think we will. We've already done so many things because of knowing this, going to the midterms, you would see messaging going out from the White House um saying it we are prepared for this. Uh, you even saw Elon even come out and say a couple things like, listen, if we see this, to just put people on notice that we got your game. We're we're we're if you did this or if you try this again, we've got your game, we know where you're going. So already put them in notice. And and now it now it's a matter of going in and and fixing it to make sure that if someone doesn't have an Elon, they're putting their eyes on it, or we're not putting our eyes on it to keep it from happening again. And that's President Trump's number one goal is voter integrity. Not to rehash 2020, it's to keep our voter our our voters and our and and the American people confident in our elections in the in the future.

SPEAKER_16 49:02

So two quick follow-ups here. Yeah. Uh one, this is how you helped secure the 2024 election.

SPEAKER_27 49:09

Well, I don't want to listen, I was I was a small guy with a group of people.

SPEAKER_33 49:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_27 49:14

I was very I was on the I was I saw on the importance of people if they were if they were This was a sound election.

SPEAKER_16 49:20

Yeah. This election did not look anything like the 2020 election. Nothing like it, right? Nothing like it. Right. And by the way, our base, our chat, doesn't have any major complaints about the 2024 election, right? There was no water pipe bursts, there was no power outages. There wasn't there. There was no boxes and like a bunch of vans and everything like that. No, nobody has footage like that. If we had footage like that, we'd show it. Yeah, right? So it was like so much cleaner. Just quickly talk me through that process.

ICE Raids, Missing Children, And Accountability

SPEAKER_27 49:45

Well, it one, that's what I said by putting people on notice that we're we're watching, we're aware of their game, made a lot of people very worried about what was happening. They weren't, they weren't, they didn't want to expose themselves because they knew the trouble they would get into. So just by calling them out, sometimes by just putting you on notice saying, hey man, I don't want to hurt you, but you take another step towards me and you're in my comfort zone, I'm gonna remove you. Right? That's that's putting you on notice. Now you've got to make a decision, are you brave enough to step in that circle? And that's the same thing in this. By us just going out there and exposing, saying we know some of your tricks, if you did it, supposedly, if you did it, we know some of your tricks, and we're watching all of it now. And if you do, since we're watching, we're not gonna allow you to be able to go back out and cover your tracks, we're gonna grab it. Right. And then we're going to expose it. So by putting them on notice was what probably helped a lot of the the the the uh the the election in 24. Um, but now it's assuring it up. And the president has put so much time and effort, not for his election, he's not running again. He's done. He's done it for the American people, and I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat, you should want that. Yeah, you should want voter integrity, no matter what it is. Because if another Democrat gets elected to office, which will happen at some point, you want to be confident that that we didn't rig it, because let me tell you, if if if you could do it, we can do it. So let's keep it safe for all the elections.

SPEAKER_15 51:12

For the for if you can do it, we can do it. And there's a lot of Republicans that are saying, why don't we just do it? Right. This was the John McCain camp. We can't let people choose their pres their leaders. He said that. That was a direct quote. There is a strong faction of Republicans that are like, well, why don't we just get in on the game?

SPEAKER_16 51:32

Down the road. This is why Elon is going so hard in the pain on the Save Act. Yes. So because you've just you've just like laid out uh an architecture of how important it was for Elon to understand how these elections could be rigged if every machine is hooked up to the internet. And so the moment that that light switch went on, I mean, this is the piece of legislation. I've never seen Elon go after a piece of legislation like he's done with the Save Act.

SPEAKER_27 51:55

One thing that people don't know is I wasn't the important person because I don't know the technical side of it. The most important person in our voter integrity in in in the in 2024, I will say arguably, or actually I would just know what he didn't say, arguably. Um, I'd say arguably, because there are some big people that played roles, but but no there were some big people that paid a role.

SPEAKER_15 52:15

That's the Patrick Byrne and the Gary and those guys.

SPEAKER_27 52:17

No one took a front approach more than Elon. Wow. No one no one took a more public frontal approach than Elon did. I don't think that story's been fully told, but it's like a fascinating thing. He wouldn't take credit for it, but it is. It's uh it's pretty amazing at his at his role, and he he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for it.

SPEAKER_16 52:36

And so in closing, he wants that save act because he's been able to see how these things can be rigged. Yep. He has the light bulb on, he's fully aware, and so he wants that save act. Yeah. This is why, right? Like it's not.

SPEAKER_27 52:48

And here's a guy that can never even run for president of the United States. That's right. Uh, but he loves our country this much. Um, I mean, he he just he's trying to protect the integrity because he can also see what's happened in his in in his you know home country, what's happened with the voter integrity.

SPEAKER_16 53:02

I mean, that would be too that would be that's too bad that he can't run for president because I would want an African-American president. Yeah. Elon Musk. Like that's too bad. You know, because I'm sitting there saying, I want this African American state, right? And it'd be so he can for America to finally have that.

SPEAKER_27 53:19

I don't know how you're keeping it straight from that one.

SPEAKER_16 53:21

Right? Like, like we f we could finally be there. It's finally equality, you know, we could all say. Yeah, right? Like Don Lemon's been charged with the KKK Act, and Elon Musk is president. We have an African-American. The irony of that one. Perfect. The irony is like, I don't even know how you're keeping it straight fast.

JFK Files, CIA Allegations, And Trust

SPEAKER_15 53:37

As of right now, DHS is raiding Maricopa County elections. Whoa. Boom! You guys rock em sock em robots. They're done. They're done. Nice, they're not gonna be able to run long. Georgia, I'm sure they're gonna head up to Pennsylvania soon. Boom, boom, boom. So I'll watch to see if we have any uh more news breaks, but that is the word. Okay, Ron, fluoride. What do you think about fluoride? Oh, um, hate it. So this was a pretty interesting little uh what did you say about okay? So this is fluoride. My wife and I have this fluoride conversation because the Nazis used fluoride to like make the Jews dumb, right? It was part of their final solution. Okay, but yet somehow not fluoride ends up in our water supply. There's an old podcast I used to listen to called Conspiracy Theories by Spotify. It was a really good podcast because it was a debunking one. So they took a conspiracy theory topic, did their little deep dive, pros, cons. Did it happen? Did it happen at the end? Totally unbelievable, plausible, definitely happened, right? So you kind of go down these, anyways. Great show. Because it's not for you to believe the conspiracy. It's like, did we land on the moon? Here's the people who say we did, here's the people who say we didn't. Our analysis. We don't know.

SPEAKER_21 54:55

And at the end, either it's like, we'll leave it up to the viewer.

SPEAKER_15 54:58

Yeah. So one of them was on fluoride, that fluoride's bad. So they went into the history of fluoride and how it gets into the water supply. Fluoride is a byproduct of aluminum. So as America started to produce more aluminum, you had all this fluoride, and people were getting unhappy because they were dumping it out into the rivers and they were like, well, what are we going to do with it? And they're like, I don't know, put it in the water supply. So literally, they hired some dentists to do a study saying that it made your enamel better, and then they started pitching it to water supply and they created a residual income off of their industrial waste product. And then, of course, it gets end ends up in our toothpaste and all kinds of stuff like that. But there's also a key, the same reason the Nazis used it, this is where the conspiracy comes in. It's easy to see the economics. An aluminum company wants to get rid of an industrial waste byproduct, and they think that it's easy to get you to consume it. It's kind of the same with canola oil, right? Same thing. There's an economic reason why they would want to do that. But there's a byproduct. Fluoride also lowers IQ. What did you say about fluoride?

SPEAKER_09 55:55

Uh, Tennessee has a law that has to, or the the water district has to inform the public about it. But fluoride is crazy because we know it reduces IQ. There's no question. The National Toxicology Program has done a meta-analysis, and they can, you know, it's dose-related, so every um milligram of fluoride that you had reduced your IQ more. And um and it doesn't work. You know, it was put in in the 40s. And because it does help with tooth decay, but the effect is all topical. And back then they didn't have fluoride toothpaste, they didn't have fluoride mouthwash. Now we do. The parents can get the fluoride for their kids, and they don't when you put it in systematically, it destroys your bone mass. It destroys your throat. It's horrible. And it destroys IQ. So, I mean, do if you have kids, would you rather have cavities or or ignorance or IQ? Yeah, I'd rather have them have cavities. I'd rather have holes in their teeth than holes in their ideas or whatever. Right.

SPEAKER_15 57:02

But European I'd rather them have holes in their teeth than holes in their ideas.

SPEAKER_09 57:07

I love things. It's a band and there has been no increase in cavity. So uh it doesn't make any sense for us to be putting it in.

SPEAKER_15 57:17

So apparently it's bad, and sure enough, here's the chart. Uh, one one milligram of fluoride in your urine equates to a 1.63% drop in IQ across pretty much 86% of studies that have looked at it. So get off that fluoride, boys and girls. I don't know what's worse though. If you live in the city and you drink tap water, you're almost certainly getting fluoride. But then you go to the bottled water and then you get the microplastics. So either way, you're dumb or dumber. You know, it's like take your pick. Get onto well water, ladies and gentlemen. Get onto well water. Uh one of the other things. Let's see, I've got this. Uh one of the other things that happened. There it is. Okay. One of the other things that JFK talked about was he talked about the uh oh no, let me let me do this other one first. So this is Tom Holman. He did a press conference yesterday in Minnesota, and they're getting they're pulling out of Minnesota right now, ISIS. The big surge. What they were doing in Minnesota was they were going, they've got these strike teams that are going from city to city and they're looking for the worst of the worst. They're looking for the murderers, the rapists, the guys that already have criminal records that got released from U.S. prisons or that came across the border that we know are loose in the country with criminal records from other countries. So it's like a lot of these ICE guys that were being protested are these strike teams that are going around. They're not looking for random people, they're looking for the criminals. So that team is leaving Minnesota. They've d arrested, I think, over 4,000 people off the streets of Minneapolis State Hall. Huge numbers, okay? But he did this press conference yesterday. And in Minnesota, guess what they found?

SPEAKER_12 58:58

In addition to taking public safety threats off the street, Ice here in this state have located 3,364 missing, unaccompanied alien children. Children of the last administration lost and weren't even looking for. That's because the leadership of President Trump, these children were located.

SPEAKER_15 59:20

Oh, but you arrested a five-year-old. No, no, that's not it at all. That is a huge, huge number. Huge number. How do you get to the point to where you have an administration that won't look for missing kids?

FBI J6 Planning And Double Standards

SPEAKER_21 59:38

Or just finds kids that they're didn't even know were missing. Here's why. Here's why.

SPEAKER_15 59:45

It's because our government has not been our government for a long time. Carlitz over here in the chats. He says, Welcome back, Carrie Lake. Hobbes is going to jail. Ha ha. Yeah, I really hope so. Uh, don't get me started on fluoride. Of course, Carlitz, of course, you'd know about fluoride stuff. And of course, don't get me started on the moon lantern. Different, different day. Okay, this is Anna Paulina Looney. She's on the PBD podcast. And she says the thing that a lot of us conspiracy theorists have thought about for a long time. The overthrow of the United States government wasn't in 2020. It goes way farther back than that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

A lot of people are like, why do you care so much about going back and rehashing or opening up the Kennedy files? And the thing is, is that up until really President Trump took office and then did the final executive order, and up until the CIA followed through with it, which we know for 60 years the CIA hadn't until Director Radcliffe, um, ultimately the people didn't actually know what happened. So the American people had this feeling that the government was lying to them. And I would say that if you're looking at historically kind of the way and really where the distrust starts in this country, it's when Kennedy's assassinated. Um, shortly thereafter, you have the assassination of Dr. King and then of RFK. And the thing is is that what we know now for a fact is that the CIA did intentionally lie to Congress, did intentionally try to stop the investigations or prevent evidence from coming out. The Warren Commission.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:09

This was previous to this.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

This is previous to this. Yeah, but you have to know the backstory to kind of know those files. So what we also know is that the Warren Commission, which was set up by Congress to actually investigate and provide the American people transparency, actually, in my opinion, was a sham committee, and they're pushing a narrative to kind of wrap this up nicely, put it away, and not talk about it anymore. Um and that's kind of feels like the J6 committee. Because, in my opinion, the U.S. government was implicated in the assassination of Kennedy. We have witness testimony that proves Kennedy was shot from both the front and behind, meaning that there were multiple shooters. Um, also the fact that you actually have documentation from an individual by the name of George Joni. These at the CIA declassified that proved that he had lied to Congress. He was actually embedded as the liaison to the CIA. So there's a lot there that implicates um potentially a small faction within the CIA operating rogue and responsible for the assassination. So what this does is it fills in the questions that we had in this mosaic of, well, what was the Soviet's perspective? And what we found out is that people knew that Kennedy did not want war, right? He was doing everything that he could to prevent a nuclear arms exchange. Um but what a lot of people don't know is how close he was to the then Soviet president. And so after the assassination took place, the president ultimately decided to do his own investigation to really see what happened and presented these findings to the US government at the funeral for Kennedy. And we never got those declassified files because I believe that whoever got those documents destroyed them. And so ultimately, when they transferred over these files, a lot of them contained um wires directly from the embassy to Moscow talking about what was happening. They were scared to pieces that the United States was going to use this as a means of essentially starting a kinetic fight with Russia, um, which thank goodness they didn't. However, it's interesting because this is being declassified now, of which we didn't have any idea that the Putin-Trump talks would be happening or Budapest or any of that. Um, but it's interesting because Trump, in a way, is continuing and almost finalizing Kennedy's legacy for peace. And you see that because everything that he's saying right now with not wanting to escalate the war between Russia and Ukraine, um, continuously calling for those talks for the first time since the 90s, really being a president that's picking up the phone and trying to engage in open dialogue and potentially even talking about a trade deal with Russia. Um, and that's really ultimately what Kennedy was also doing. Um, so it's very interesting that this is coming out at this point in time. But there's gonna be an article dropping soon on this.

SPEAKER_16 1:03:34

There's gonna be an article dropping.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:36

So it's pretty obvious from the releases that the CIA was deeply involved, and again, not a new thing. Ron Ron Paul has echoed the same sentence.

Epstein Fallout, Resignations, And Emails

SPEAKER_10 1:03:44

You know, there's been a coup that take over we don't have any resemblance uh to a government that believes in a republic, we don't have honest money, we don't have integrity, we don't even have people in Washington that even pretends, you know, that you're supposed to tell the truth. But I do believe there has been a coup and it's been taken over. And if I want to, if I can, I want to just put the date in my mind, and you anybody could pick probably any date in the last hundred years. But I have picked uh I have picked November 22nd, 1963. What happened on that day? That was the day Kennedy was murdered by our government. Wow. You know, by the CIA.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:22

That's that's kind of what I believe. I'll never forget when I was working on a job with a guy who was a former F-16 pilot and then became a program manager at DARPA, and his wife was an intelligence officer at the Pentagon that her job was to go to the Congress and brief them daily on classified topics. And I said to him casually, Well, you know, I mean the CIA killed Kennedy. And he did a full stop, stop. There's no evidence of that. There's there's absolutely no evidence that the CIA had any involvement in that. And it's like he was shot twice. Not once, twice. We know this. No, no, no, no, no. It's like magic bullet. Magic bullet. The guys who told you to go bomb people in that F-16, they're the successors of the people who killed Kennedy. And now you fast forward to 2020. Everybody take over the government. If you can take over the democracy by knocking out their leader and making future presidents complicit, and the next time a president tries to act up, Nixon take him out, which by the way, seven new pages showed up yesterday. I don't even have it on for the show today. Seven new pages, Nixon's deposition. Turns out they never wanted us to see those. It was another coup against Nixon. It was a deep state coup. The same freaking people have been pushing against Russia. They didn't like they didn't like what uh what Reagan did either when he brought down the wall when they broke Russia. They didn't like that either. And notice how Russia's always been our boogeyman. I mean, we had a little respite in the nineties when basically under Yeltsin they were selling out Russian assets to Americans. But once Putin got back involved and tried to, you know, reestablish this Russian culture, they're they've been our enemy. Why? Because they're the ones that if they actually join with us in democratic Western values, nuclear families, Christianity, which is what Russia really wants. They don't do the whole free speech, Second Amendment thing. They do the Russian family thing, right? The homogenous culture thing. If we team up with them, we're an unstoppable force in the world. They're afraid of that. Now, once they got power after killing Nixon, then it's my belief, slowly but surely, they infiltrated our elections and made them harder and harder for legitimate truth tellers and winners to get to win. To the point in Minnesota where they were literally hiding 3,000 plus unaccompanied minors and where they were allowing lots of criminals to roam the street, let alone what's going on with the Somalis. This is their attorney general. This is Keith Ellison. He's a Muslim man. He's the one who had the little book that's Antifa and then says Antifa's not a real thing. Meanwhile, he's like reading the book. He is up on cap he's up on Capitol Hill in the Senate, being grilled by Joss Hawley about the undercover video footage of him meeting with the Somali fraudsters, telling him he'll take care of their problem and all that stuff, and then taking a bribe. It's all on camera.

SPEAKER_20 1:07:21

You familiar with that? Don't turn to the pages in your book to get your potted answers. Are you familiar with it? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:26

Yes, I am familiar with it.

SPEAKER_20 1:07:27

Very familiar, aren't you? Because the people who ran the Feeding Our Futures program came to you in your official office in the state capitol December 11th, 2021, and asked for your help in getting investigators off their backs. They complained to you for upwards of an hour.

SPEAKER_15 1:07:44

Hey, didn't we just hear a Republican senator at the beginning of the podcast, Tom Tillis, talking about someone else that's under criminal investigation that might want that case dropped, and Tillis is using his political leverage to get it dropped? Didn't we just see something similar happen? But we saw the backside. We saw the results on the Senate floor where he just says, This is the bargain I'm striking.

SPEAKER_20 1:08:08

About state investigators going after them, and they begged you to help them, and you agreed to it amazingly. And we know you did because it's all caught on tape. Every single sentence is caught on tape. Here's what you said. Let's take a look. You said to them, send me the names of all these folks who are investigating them. You said to them, send me their names, and I'll take that list and I'll call the person over at education who is investigating them and say, What's going on? Why am I getting these complaints? Then you went on to say, I already have my team working on this. What day should we get together to discuss it again? You made pledge after pledge to them. You said, We've got to make sure this guy who's investigating them stops it. You said, You have my attention. I'm concerned about this. You said, let's go fight these people. Meaning the people who are investigating the fraud. Why'd you do it? Why'd you help them? Are you gonna let me answer? Please. We're all here.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:10

So first your chair picking pulse out of there. The money. Why did you help? I thought you were gonna let me answer. Why did you? Are you gonna let me answer? Why did you help me? You let me answer and I'll answer you.

SPEAKER_20 1:09:18

Tell the truth and I'll let you answer. I will tell the truth.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:22

So no that now see, Mr. Chairman, I didn't come here to be insulted. I came here violence.

SPEAKER_20 1:09:27

You came here for the truth. Let's have it. Why did you?

SPEAKER_14 1:09:29

You can't handle the truth.

SPEAKER_20 1:09:31

Black and white, and every member of this audience listen to the recording. It's 54 minutes long. It's all in public. You can Google it right now and listen to it. And listen to it. Why'd you help them? First of all, I didn't help them. You did? No, I did not. I certainly didn't. You're saying you didn't do anything for them. You didn't, you didn't. Well, wait a minute. I already have my team working on this again. That's not you.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:53

I have my team. My team assisted with the information that led to the prosecution and conviction of these people. No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_20 1:10:02

You didn't look your finger to prosecute them. No, you did not. No, because they were federal prosecutors. Oh, BS. You had whistleblowers upon the U as early as 2019. Hey, listen, it's my time.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:13

He doesn't know what you're talking about.

Minnesota Fraud, Ellison Hearing, And Fallout

SPEAKER_20 1:10:14

Oh, no, sir. You now have encountered the truth that you don't like. Why'd you take their money? Why'd you take their money? I didn't. You took 10,000 dollars. That's a false statement.$10,000 nine days after the meeting. False statement. You took$10,000. Here's what happened. They went to your office. That's also. They came to your office. It was your official office. You met with them for 54 minutes. No, they didn't. They asked you for help. You pledged it to them, and they talked repeatedly about money. In fact, it's all they talked about. Money, money, money, money. They said, we will put our dollars in the right place. We will support candidates that will fight to protect our interests. You replied, that's right. They said if you are securing your donor base and securing your power base, you can act the way you want. You replied, money is freedom. They said the amount of money circulating. I'm reading the transcript. The amount of money circulating in our community today is powerful.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:12

And we haven't realized it in the meaningful. The amount of money circulating in our community is powerful because it's unattached to labor, products, goods, or services. It's just cash.

SPEAKER_20 1:11:22

So wait, and you said, give me the specifics. And nine days later, you took ten thousand dollars from people who were then indicted. It's in your reports. Why'd you do it?

SPEAKER_13 1:11:34

Sir, this it was it worth it? You know what? This is a theatrical.

SPEAKER_20 1:11:39

This is the truth. This is what accountability looks like, of which you've had none. You helped fraudsters defraud your state and this government of nine billion dollars, and you got a fat campaign contribution out of it. You ought to be indicted.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:53

That's the truth. I think we've made the Josh Hawley walked out into the hall after this and goes, I'm surprised they didn't come arrest him in the meeting. Yeah. That undercover video. There are no laws, there are only cops. That's your top cop, and he ain't gonna arrest himself. So where are the feds? Oh, we don't like to touch attorney generals because it violates state sovereignty. Wow. Did this guy get elected? I wonder how many of the voters in Minnesota don't have Social Security numbers. Stunning stuff. Uh Pear Odees says, Armies need a general or many. And he says, one of our song lyrics go, you can who can you buy for 10 grand? Apparently, you can buy the attorney general of uh of Minnesota. This is the fallout of that, right? This is this is part of these programs in uh Minnesota. This is the one of the Medicaid recipients. This is someone who's being evicted from her home. She's a she's a disabled person that is living in this house and has lived here for some time. Unfortunately, she's being evicted because the program that's supposed to be paying the rent stopped paying the rent. And there's kind of a revelation here that happens. You've got you got some issues.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:05

Minnesota's fraud crisis came knocking. We're here for the eviction. Janelle Hansen, she goes by Skye, lived in a Minnetonka apartment when sheriff's deputies arrived.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

I'm scared.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:18

Armed with an eviction order for Jane or John Doe.

SPEAKER_32 1:13:23

I'm not Jane or John Doe. That's what's confusing.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:26

Skye lived here as part of a Medicaid program called Integrated Community Supports, or ICS. It's designed to help adults with disabilities live independently in their own apartment with one-to-one daily assistance. She was ordered to pack up what she could carry.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

Grab what you've just packed. We need to exit the apartment.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:48

And get out. We need to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:54

Okay, go on.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:56

And like that, a vulnerable young woman put on the street. How could this have happened? Our investigation finds it's tied to the allegations of Medicaid fraud now rocket. So we documented this guy's life of homelessness for the past eight months.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:19

So this eviction was not a result of the disclosure Shirley made with this added attention on Minnesota. This is just a normal eviction because the rent didn't get paid. So this all has happened before we find out there was a crisis in Minnesota with these types of services.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:58

Most days was like two hours, maybe. One or two hours. Under investigation, the company and its owner, Shaman Mohammed, stopped paying rent.

SPEAKER_29 1:15:08

Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_19 1:15:11

So Sky got evicted. Just one of the vulnerable people paying the price through no fault of their own for Minnesota's fraud crisis. Thrown onto the street, homeless.

Closing Predictions And Sign‑Off

SPEAKER_15 1:15:30

For some reason, I thought the final life, they say your home is in your heart, but it's actually in your car. Okay. That's the consequences. That woman has nothing to do with this fraud. She's she's the type of person that our society wants to create the social safety net for. She's probably not capable of living, you know, a full huge life and providing for a house and whatnot. But$400 and something dollars a day with 10 hours a day one-on-one care, and maybe one or two hours a day that they were showing up. And when you read further in the report, and that was maybe once or twice a week, so they were committing services fraud on top of the fact that you know they were collecting a lot of money, and where's that money going? Well, there's so much money in our community, says Keith Ellison. If we just knew how to use it. J6, right? We've heard about this. Steve Bannon had John Solomon on. The entire J6 narrative, again, back to elections. The government, the people in charge, the ones who kind of threw the government over in 1963, are still running the show.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:34

Let me get this correct. A year before January 6th, the FBI knew there might be some consternation about the election, given everything, given the Democrats already wargaming it.

SPEAKER_15 1:16:43

Why? Why would a year before? That would be like, you know, while Trump's going through impeachment number one, the Ukraine gate, then, you know, he gives the State of the Union, we're all winning, it's the best year ever. But the FBI is like, oh no, we're gonna have a lot of problems on J6.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:00

Thought this thing through, and they actually had plans specifically for January 6th, sir.

SPEAKER_26 1:17:05

Yeah, they did. They had a tabletop exercise that they ran in Boston in August of 2020, five months before January 6th occurred. The memos, which Cash Patel just turned over to Congress, he just found them recently, turned them over to Congress at the uh request of uh Chairman Barry Laudemilk, who's in charge of the J6 investigation now in the House, show that the FBI knew there was a strong possibility of a hanging election or a contested election, that uh both sides appeared to be agitated and likely would uh could likely uh carry out that agitation to the point of violence. And they even devised uh very specific strategies. One of them is to embed informants inside the groups where the most likely political violence or political agitation might occur. That is something that the FBI did. We had two dozen informants on the ground on the morning of January 6. The second thing they recommended was mass prosecutions, even for the most minor of crimes. Exactly what the FBI did after January 6. Now, there are two big things about that strategy. It's pretty clear the strategy was hatched months before, and that's what they carried out. It's not the strategy they use for the political violence BLM in the far left, uh, conducted all throughout the summer and fall of 2020. So a very clear double standard.

SPEAKER_15 1:18:23

The second thing is But I thought Joe Biden embodied law and order. Wouldn't he treat all violent protesters across the country the same?

SPEAKER_26 1:18:32

They did invent informants in a lot of groups, including left and right groups, Antifa and uh uh right-wing groups, and they got lots of intelligence suggesting a uh a bad episode would occur. We now know from Chairman Barry and Otanock that that while those warnings were very strong from the informants, the preparations and the warnings from the FBI to their brethren in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. did not exist. They didn't pass on the warnings from the informants. So two failed uh examples of the Chris Ray era of the uh FBI. Knowing something was going to happen, uh implementing a strategy that hurt conservatives but not liberals, and not warning the people who could actually prevent the violence from occurring. That is the legacy of the Chris Ray FBI. It's what we now have out and open these documents, they're now out there for everybody to see. Pretty stunning, uh though maybe not so stunning given what we've learned about the FBI.

SPEAKER_15 1:19:24

Is there any not stunning part of this that shows all of this is creating a situation where these narratives are coming full circle, right? You're starting to see the problem, the solution, but now we're looping back, and the the creator of the problem is being exposed. What we do with that information as a people, that's for us to determine because the facts are out there, but the narrative about those facts is the only thing that's real.

SPEAKER_21 1:19:51

Did you notice how he mentioned that you know the FBI had informants or embeds in both both sides? And I when he said that, I was like, huh, I wonder what the saturation percentage was on each of those sides.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:05

I have said this to Proud Boys people's face multiple times. I said, You're Antifa. Well, I'm not Antifa, I hate Antifa. Antifa and the Proud Boys are two sides of the same coin. You were both infiltrated by the FBI, you were both led fake information, you were both incited to be there to fight each other. Antifa has inbeds that are like, let's go out into the streets and let's fight out, fight those racists who hate BIPOC, bisexual people of color. And then the Proud Boys are like, let's go out into the streets and fight those stupid Antifa. They want to beat up grandma, and then you end up with a street fight, and nobody intended to beat up grandma or persecute gay people. You know what I mean? But they're fighting each other because you have embeds. You're two sides of the same coin. I don't, I'm not saying that your intentions aren't there, you're you're not a completely sincere person, but as your trials showed, those chat rooms, not as organic as you thought, are they? Right? I mean, they literally used evidence that the FBI uploaded attachments like the 1776 plan or whatever it was, and said, you guys read this document and agreed with it. Turns out Enrique Antario never even opened the document, right? Two sides of the same coin.

SPEAKER_24 1:21:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:17

This Epstein thing, it's two sides of the same coin as well. Let's look at this. So Pam Bondi just played the great oh, that's gonna be in private. Okay, let's look at the list of people. So this is the fallout from Epstein. The Epstein machine is collapsing in real time, and they can't stop it. Not the lawyers, not the media, not the billions, not even silence. The last seven days changed everything. February 5th, DOJ unredacts 3.5 million pages. Names hidden for years are now public. February 6th, Lex Wexner, billionaire behind Victoria's Secret, named. He gave Epstein$77 million mansion for free. February 7th, Sultan bin Soliam, CEO of Dubai's DP World, one of the largest port operators on earth, named in the files. February 8th, Peter Mandelson resigned from the House of Lords. Emails confirmed direct payments from Epstein. February 9th, Morgan McSweeney, chief of staff to UK PM Starmer, resigned. He appointed Mandelson. Two dominoes one week. February 10th, Thomas Valley Police confirmed active discussions with prosecutors about Prince Andrew. Not rumors, police action. February 11th, Glenn Maxwell invoked the Fifth Amendment before Congress, refused to answer every single question. The Global Body Count, Brad Carp, chairman of Paul Weiss, most powerful law firm in New York, resigned. Mursilov Lesjak, Slovakia's foreign minister, EU envoy, resigned. Johanna Rubinstein, Columbia University executive, resigned. Norway, criminal investigations are expanding. UK Parliament demanding all British names. Six countries, 12 resignations, one week. The Clinton countdown. February 26th and 27th, Bill and Hillary Clinton will testify. 14 days. The two most protected people in American political history will answer questions about Jeffrey Epstein. Under oath, under penalty of perjury. 27 tricks to the island, 40 flights on the Lita Express. Secret Service detail dismissed before boarding the plane. Every hidden, every they've hidden for 20 years, 14 days, the hiding ends. Why Trump is untouchable? They tried to put Trump in the files, they failed. Virginia Grew Free testified under oath. Donald Trump never did anything inappropriate. Trump banned Epstein from Mar Lago. Trump cooperated with investigations in 2009. Trump is the one releasing the files. The man they accused is the man exposing them all. The machine ran out on silence, is drowning in sunlight. Every name, every flight, every payment, all of it, dark delight. Now, the news is still trying to play that this is a Trump problem. Dana Bash, who, if you remember, her husband was one of the intelligence officers that signed the letter saying the Biden laptop was Russia disinformation. She had on this guest yesterday. Her name is oh, who knows? Doesn't matter. And she's saying that this is an Epstein problem.

unknown 1:24:17

All right.

SPEAKER_32 1:24:17

Well, let me tell you something. So this is the Epstein administration because there are two types of people in it. There are people who are in the Epstein files, and there are people who are covering up the Epstein files. There are nobody else in this administration that is not as one of those two buckets.

SPEAKER_15 1:24:33

Everybody in that administration is either covering for it or they're up for it. But turns out we found out that the top lawyer in the White House was involved in all this. So is it really the Epstein administration under Trump? Or was the Obama administration the Epstein administration?

SPEAKER_28 1:24:51

On Jeffrey Epstein's 62nd birthday, he got an email from former Obama White House counsel Kathy Rumler. Happy birthday. I hope you enjoy the day with your one true love, adding a smiley face. Epstein responded, They say that men usually gave a name to their penis, as it would be inappropriate to make love to a total stranger. Rumler replied, Hard to believe that there is still an open question about whether men are the inferior gender. This is one of just a few of the hundreds of emails that Rumler exchanged with Epstein during the final years of his life. Now the chief legal officer at Goldman Sachs, Rummler has said that she got to know Epstein through her work as a lawyer, and that the two were, quote, friendly in that professional context. But in the latest release of Epstein Files from the Justice Department, photos of Rumler and messages between the two suggest they had a close personal friendship. Rumler discussed matters in her personal life, expressed gratitude for their quote, friendship, sometimes concluded messages with quote XO and XOXO, and repeatedly fawned over gifts from who she called at times Uncle Jeffrey. Rumler even discussed possibly visiting Epstein's private island, asking in 2017 if she could take a quote day trip there, with emails suggesting Epstein tried to coordinate a private jet to pick her up. It's unclear if the visit ever occurred, and a Goldman Sachs spokesperson previously said Rumler never visited the island. Rumbler's PR team referred CNN's questions about her birthday exchange with Epstein to her attorney. The fact is, Miss Rumler does not make any statement about Epstein's penis. She does not reference it, she does not joke about it, she does not banter with Epstein about it. She does not accede to Epstein's unsolicited gratuitous remarks about men and their penises. Nothing. In another message from just This is CNN! This is this is the top lawyer in the White House. Now the top lawyer at Goldman Sachs. By 2015, Rumler asked Epstein if he read a New York Times story which featured critics of sex offender registries, like the one he had been listed on for several years by then. Thinking about whether there is an opportunity there, Rumler wrote. Asked about that exchange, a Rumbler spokesperson told CNN, at times Epstein sought informal advice and she provided feedback based upon her understanding at the time, without any formal involvement. Months later, Rumler wrote that helping Epstein with his quote legal sh was important because, quote, friendships goes two ways. A spokesperson for Rumler told CNN she, quote, has done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide. Nothing in the records suggests otherwise. Jeffrey Epstein was a man of a thousand faces. Miss Rumler only saw the one he put on to win people over and gain credibility and acceptance. Her views were shaped by that, and his denials of any wrongdoing other than what he had pled guilty to years prior. Miss Rumler has deep sympathy for those harmed by Epstein. If she knew then what she knows now, she never would have dealt with him at all.

SPEAKER_21 1:27:33

I'm pretty sure she knew it then.

Monty Python Parody Clip

SPEAKER_15 1:27:36

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she knew it then. I'm just saying. Now, you have to understand the significance of this. Because who is who is she? Obama's close friend and former White House counsel, Catherine Rumner, was just forced out of Goldman Sachs. So she quit yesterday, resigned after the close ties to Jeffrey Epstein. It was exposed by the Trump administration. She also represented George Nadler. I remember George Nadler because. I was working on a job site here in Burmerton by myself and I'm going around. And Trump gave a press conference, and he's like, what are they going to do about George Nadler? George Nadler was a bumbler. He would gather up money, right, for the for donations. And during the Russian gate thing, right as Trump, right as Mueller was testifying and all this stuff, Nadler was arrested for child pornography. George Nadler pled guilty to bringing a 14-year-old boy from the Czech Republic to engage in sexual equity. That's this guy, Democrat donor bundler. Okay. And he was one of Mueller's witnesses against Trump. Turns out he's a child predator. Well, the only thing is she helped him and he never served any time for that. So here you have Rumner working with Epstein, Mueller investigation, which that all ties back to the Epstring crowd at the clip, and you're covering up for one of the guys that was the witness against Trump. Ah Yeah, I know Tim Dylan, it's hard. I mean our contrary pedophile. But please don't project that onto Trump. He's the only guy doing anything about it. All right, guys. As Mark Rubio says, the world is changing.

SPEAKER_23 1:29:14

Yeah. I think that before this uh the before the Trump presidency is over, Donald Trump will visit a free Caracas, a free Tehran, and a free Havana.

SPEAKER_15 1:29:23

We're gonna go back to the text of the prediction. A free Caracas, a free Tehran, and a free Havana. What a great world that would be. And it's changing. As long as we can not be too distracted, we can clean house, allow the Epstein people, get them out of there. If you're involved in any of that stuff, you probably gotta go. I'm not saying everybody ever who had lunch with them, but you gotta go. All right, it's time for us to jump over to private. We're just gonna spend a few minutes over there today. And uh we're gonna talk a little bit about one, but you know what? We're skipping private today. We're calling it good. We'll talk to you guys again on Monday. Bye.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:22

Man, man, sonny. What night lives in that castle over there? I'm 37. What? I'm 37. I'm not old. Well, I can't just call you man. You could say Dennis. I didn't know you were called Dennis. Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind, you don't what I object to is they automatically treat me like an inferior. Well, I am king. Oh, king, eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any progress. How'd you do? How do you do, good lady? I'm Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that? King of the Who? The Britons. Who are the Britons? We all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king. Didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes. Oh, there you go. Bringing class into it again. That's what it's all about. Only people wouldte. Who lives in that castle? No one lives there. Then who is your lord? We don't have a lord. What? I told you. We're in anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. Yes. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting. Yes, I see. By a civil majority in the case of purely internal affairs. Be quiet or by a two-thirds majority in the case of being quiet. I order you to be quiet. Or do you think? I'm your king. I didn't vote for you. You don't vote for kings? Why do you become king then? The lady of the lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water. Signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I'm your king. Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Be quiet! Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you. Shut up! Oh but if I went round saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bitch had lobbed a scimitar at me, they put me away! Shut up, will you? Shut up! Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Shut up! Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! I'm being repressed! Bloody peasant! Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Do you see him repressing me?

SPEAKER_22 1:33:09

You saw it in you!