From Boy Scouts To Deep State: How Institutions Shape Freedom

Peasants or citizens? We open with that provocation and follow the thread across a volatile map: youth institutions that form character, agencies that test public trust, a Middle East standoff that punishes wishful thinking, and an AI debate that decides who gets to steer when milliseconds matter. Our shared history with the Boy Scouts grounds a simple claim—merit, service, and duty scale from camp to country—and collides with a wave of cultural and policy reversals. That sets up the bigger dilemma: when institutions drift or divide, the tools built to protect you can end up turned inward.

From there we dig into the “two FBIs” idea, DHS device spying allegations, and the long shadow of programs like MKUltra and Project Artichoke. Secrecy multiplies, trust thins, and experiments morph into playbooks. On the global stage, we unpack why Iran’s nuclear ambition is an existential equation, not a negotiation tactic, and why hypersonic threats, logistics strain, and alliance pivots make deterrence brittle. The Kennedy and McGregor perspectives sharpen the stakes: proliferate nukes, and the odds of catastrophe jump; misread an ideology, and leverage evaporates.

Technology becomes the hinge. Silicon Valley’s AI guardrails promise ethics; the chain of command demands control. Palantir stakes out an uncomfortable middle: AI must answer to policy and courts, not corporate consciences, because warfighters can’t trust software that might pull its own plug. We confront a hard truth—smart weapons versus dumb weapons isn’t a choice between violence and peace, but between precision and blind force—and ask whether governance can keep pace with capability. Along the way, oversight questions around the Clinton–Epstein files, donor laundering claims, and local vote math highlight a domestic throughline: opacity breeds the worst stories, and legitimacy must be earned with receipts, not rhetoric.

We close where we began: character is policy’s hidden engine. If national systems feel captured, local networks still teach oaths, accountability, and service—the habits that keep power honest. Tune in for frank analysis, contested evidence, and a throughline you can test at home: sunlight, audits, and consequences restore consent. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves sharp chapter markers, and tell us: where should guardrails end and elected authority begin?

Transcript

Peasants Framing And Opening Banter

SPEAKER_32 0:21

We're getting screwed, man. Every time we turn around, we're getting screwed. Well, the revolution's gonna be true podcasting for sure. That's the only way we can. It's the little guys, the little guys that take the blood of everything. It's gotta be peasants, man. We're just peasants. Every one of us. You watch those old movies, you see the peasants in the background with the kings and kings walking around. We're those people. We're those people.

SPEAKER_41 1:02

Good morning, peasants.

SPEAKER_32 1:06

Good morning, peasants. What's over? Good morning in the chats. There was a delay in Ron's switching over to the camera, so I got hung up on good, good, good. Wasn't hearing myself. Good morning, pony boy. Good morning, peasants perspective. Good morning, Shantini. Peasants perspective. That's you again, Ron. Good morning, pony pony boy, pony leads. Is that Car Leeds and Pony Boy together?

SPEAKER_36 1:31

Uh I wasn't sure who was gonna win today.

Simultaneous Sip And Satire Clip

SPEAKER_32 1:33

Or pony teeny. Good morning, y'all, Carlito. And uh Pony Boy, I see you there. Uh check, well, laugh, laugh. Good freezing 411. Good morning. You're becoming a regular. I love that. I know why you guys are all here. You're here for the simultaneous sip. And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tankard, a chalice, or a stein, a canteen, a jug, or a flash, flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day. The thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. And it starts right now.

SPEAKER_13 2:13

For you. Okay. The government is excellent and uses your tax dollars efficiently.

Lifelong Scouting And Values

SPEAKER_32 2:22

It's probably my favorite clip, to be honest with you. Can you summarize the show? The government is efficient. All right. So we've got a good long show for you guys today. This is gonna be a great one. And no private because we maxed out for the month. Didn't max out for the month, but we hit our limit or we hit our minimum. There you go. That's the one. You know, every time we listen to the intro, at the very end, I say I hear the phrase, you see those kings and queens walking around, right? But I mispronounce queens and I kind of sort of say queens, like it sounds like kings again. It bugs me every time, but that's an original cut. That was a straight tuck. I can't cut it. Anyways, okay. Pete Hexeth had something that I came across early, early this morning, about 3 30 a.m. when I woke up. And it brought a little tear to my eye, Ron, and it might bring a tear to your eye as well. So a huge part of my life has been Boy Scouting. Yeah. Yeah, huge part of your life, too, right? You're an Eagle Scout? I am. I'm an Eagle Scout. I got two Eagle Scouts here, right? I used to think it would be like huge street cred.

SPEAKER_36 3:28

Apparently, very few people care. It was gonna be the number one thing on my CV.

SPEAKER_32 3:33

On your resume, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was always planning military service. So I was like, well, I jumped like two ranks.

SPEAKER_36 3:38

Well, and it was supposed to tell you a lot about my character and everything you needed to know, basically. Yeah, exactly.

Heggseth’s Reforms And Scout Oath

SPEAKER_32 3:44

I remember uh starting at 14 years old, I started working at Boy Scout camps. I worked up until my mission, then I came home and worked two more years at Boy Scout camps as a married man. I even had a daughter my last year at Scout Camp at camp. In fact, I made my daughter at camp. Sorry, honey. So uh because camp's three months long, so you know, got back and had a newborn. So, anyways, uh I remember when I was 14 years old. It's my first summer at Scout Camp, and I was just a young, bright-eyed staff member, and I didn't quite have my Eagle Scout, but man, that first summer at Scout Camp, if I wasn't already sold on scouting, it absolutely solidified it for me. The scout camp I worked at was called Camp Frontier, no longer exists. And the flagpole at Camp Frontier was at 9,000 feet elevation. We were just below the tree line in the high Uintas of Utah. Cool. And that summer, while I was at camp, 14 years old, at a flagpole that was 9,000 square feet, every morning raising the flag, saying the Pledge of Allegiance, saying the Scout oath, the Scout Law, the Scout motto. There was a Supreme Court decision that determined that girls did not have to and could not be forced to join the Boy Scouts. And the Boy Scouts were able to uphold their constitutional right to freedom of assembly and maintain itself as a boys-only club. That changed a couple years later. And the Boy Scouts, literally since that moment, have been kind of sliding downhill. My mother still works at Boy Scout Camp. She's been the cook at one for going on 20-something years. She started when I was 17, came in a few years after I got started. Most of my cousins, all of my siblings, have worked at Boy Scout Camp. My oldest two children have worked out by Boy Scout Camp. So it is a big part of my life. So this clip right here that I'm going to play, I'm going to speed it up just a little bit, just so we can get through it. It's a couple minutes long, but this is how you change America. We got to where we're got slowly. Like the world didn't wake up in one day and go, oh, the government said put on a mask and stay at home, shut down your business. And we all went, okay. Right. It was a slow boiling of the water before we got to the temperature where they're like, stay home in America. Right? And how did they do that? They invaded our institutions, and the Boy Scouts was one of them. Pete Heggseth is making a huge course correction. This is a couple minutes, but this is one of those things that 20 or 30 years from now, when our military fighting force is restored and there's love of America back in the zeitgeist, a huge reason will be because of this be because of this moment right now.

SPEAKER_39 6:15

For more than a century, Boy Scouts of America prepared over 130 million American boys to make moral and ethical choices, not just during their formative years, but for a lifetime as they grew into men. The first few words of the Scout Oath exemplify this. Quote, on my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country.

SPEAKER_32 6:32

I'm gonna pause that right there. I've only ever taken one oath in my whole life, and it's that one. I've never taken a military oath, I've never, to my knowledge, I've never taken any other oaths. I've made vows, I've made pledges, I've made promises, I've made contracts and agreements, but I've only taken one oath. On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country. And I feel like for me, I've done my best to honor that oath because it matters. Who judges an oath? God does.

SPEAKER_39 7:01

The Boy Scouts are embedded in our communities. They're sponsored by community organizations, service clubs, and churches. Many Boy Scouts have gone on to senior leadership positions in their communities and business in our nation's military and has elected representatives in local, state, and national office. Six Boy Scouts have been elected president of the United States. Eleven of the twelve men to walk on the moon, Boy Scouts. Boy Scout training focused on responsible citizenship, character and leadership development, patriotism, personal fitness, self-reliance, faith, and a wide range of outdoor skills. It was a great program, and the department, this department, had a close relationship with the scouts almost since its inception, as many troops meet on a military basis. After 2012, however, the Boy Scouts lost their way, and a once great organization became gravely wounded. Diversity, equity, and inclusion DEI crept in. The name was changed to Scouting America. The focus on God as the ruler of the universe was watered down to include openness to humanism and earth-centered pagan religion. Scouting became an organization that no longer supported and celebrated toy. They even welcomed the destructive myth of gender fluidity and transgenderism to infiltrate their memory. Along the way, standards were lowered and merit destroyed in favor of an insidious radical woke ideology that is anti-America and anti-American. The result membership cratered. Americans didn't want that. In 1970, 10 million boys participated in Boy Scouts. Currently, less than one million boys and girls participated. Further, many of these community organizations that once supported scout troops, they withdrew their support. And Scouting America, the parent organization, filed for bankruptcy protection.

SPEAKER_32 8:24

That was our church organization. This whole show exists because Ron showed up one day after I was recording by myself for a hundred episodes in the parking lot. And the reason Ron knew to show up was because Ron and I really met through the Boy Scouts. Yep. Was it it was it the canoe trip or the hike that we went on first? It was the hike.

SPEAKER_36 8:45

The hike was the first one.

SPEAKER_32 8:46

So the first thing we did was we did a 60-mile hike down the Washington coast, all of the national park, right along the coastline. We did that together, shepherding some varsity scouts. Yep. And then we took those varsity scouts the next summer or two summers later. I can't remember. I can't remember either. And we canoed down the Columbia River from the gorge all the way or the Bonneville Damage all the way to the mouth. All the way to the mouth. Astoria, Oregon is where we kind of popped out. We actually cut it short because that was rough water. Yeah. Anyways, it was an awesome trip. Robin and I are actually in a rowboat with a motor. So we were too cheating for the boys, yeah. But we spent the whole week together locked together in a rowboat. It was the safety boat. Come on, people. It was just the two of us, too, on that trip, right? Yeah. Anyways, we owe a lot to Boy Scouts, right? Ron and I, this show flows and works really well because we spent two weeks, three weeks almost collectively, two days, I think, total, alone with Boy Scouts trying to exemplify values to young men.

Personal Ties Forged Through Scouting

SPEAKER_39 9:48

The changes Scouting America made since 2012 have also jeopardized the relationship with this department. And I was very seriously considering ending our support of Scouting altogether. We have a department to protect, after all. Beyond that, the policies Scouting America have in place violate President Trump's executive order 14173 entitled Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity. But before making this big change, I decided to meet with the current Scouting Leadership to convey our deep concerns. Based on that face-to-face conversation and subsequent conversation, Scouting America agreed to make several key performs. Let me briefly highlight a few of them. First, Scouting America has agreed to comply immediately with the provisions of Executive Order 14173. This includes reviewing and replacing politicized, divisive, and discriminatory language throughout the organization, programs, and all publications. No more DEI, zero. Second, the quote Citizen in Society Merit Badge that encouraged Scouts to explore diversity, equity, inclusion, and identity. They always mask it under a name that sounds great, but doing something else. And then asks those scouts to engage in activism on those topics. That badge has been discontinued. Third, Scouting America will modify its policy to make clear that membership will be based solely on biological sex at birth and not gender identity. That means that the application, any application, will have only two sex designations, male and female, and the application must match the applicant's birth certificate. Scouting will also make clear that biological boys and girls will not be allowed to occupy or share intimate spaces together, toilet showers, tents, anywhere like that. Fourth, Scouting America will honor those who serve by waiving the registration fees for children of active duty, guard, and reserve families. Fifth, in partnership with the War Department, Scouting America will introduce a new military service in America. These and other changes that Scouting America's leadership are committed to in that room right over there will hopefully result in a rededication to the foundational ideals that have defined Scouting for generations. Duty to God and the country, leadership, character, and service. However, as President Reagan famously said, trust but verify. This agreement is new, and the Department's support for Scouting America is contingent on them making substantial progress toward reaching these and any other positive changes in the next six months. At that time, we'll vigorously review progress and decide whether or not to continue our support. The onus is squarely on Scouting America to deliver. If we're unsatisfied with Scouting America's progress toward and commitment to the agreed-upon reforms, we will find them in violation of the President's executive order and cease our support. We hope that doesn't happen. But it could. Ideally, I believe the Boy Scouts should go back to being the Boy Scouts as originally founded, a group that develops boys into men, maybe someday. There are also additional youth and boys' organizations, groups like Trail Life USA and Iwana Clubs, that are already compliant with President Trump's executive order that the Department may eventually support as well. But we're watching and we're watching closely. We look forward to providing you with updates after our six-month review. And wish the best.

SPEAKER_32 12:19

All right. So basically, right now, the Boy Scouts have a monopoly when it comes to the Department of War. But watch out, Boy Scouts. Kiwanas are close on your tail. That's actually, again, when we talk about the big picture, let's get 30,000 feet so we can see the forest through the trees. Things like Boy Scouts are what train men and now young people in general to honor their country, to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, friendly, prifty, brave, clean, and reverent. All values that we want to exemplify in society. And right, the the Boy Scouts assist parents in instilling those values and providing them opportunities for service and to just see the world a little bit differently. And then, of course, the merit badge program's awesome because you could explore so many different career opportunities and hobbies and different things and dip your waters in and find your real passions. I can't tell you how many people I know who have been Boy Scouts that their entire career started at a merit badge clinic. You know, I mean it's like it's more common than you'd think. When the world, it's like travel, right? If you take a young person and you travel around the world, they become more well-rounded. They've seen other cultures, other traditions, customs. It gives you a lens and a mirror which you can examine your own. What do you make scouts? Yeah, Boy Scouts is an extension of that. It allows you to go camping, get in the outdoors. Even if you're in urban areas, it allows you to kind of be a part of that and learn how to serve. It's really incredible. Donald Trump a while ago gave a little interview and he said something kind of interesting. And I'm starting to wonder if maybe this isn't just the way it is.

SPEAKER_07 13:50

Think of it. But they put this stuff in to create havoc. These are bad people. I know everything they're doing, I know every move they make. I get it. But a lot of people don't. But it's tougher. I think it's probably in many ways it's tougher on my family than in his He knows every move they're making.

SPEAKER_32 14:09

These people are horrible. They're vicious. I know every move they're making. A lot of people are saying Donald Trump, when it comes to certain issues, for example, the Epstein files, he pretends like he doesn't want to release them. That way the elites that are in the files don't blame him. Oh, I don't want my friends to get hurt. And he kind of acts like, you know, this is not what I want. And that keeps him from being like the target. They're still like, well, you're gonna give us air cover. Slowly but surely he gives no air cover. You know what I mean? I can't believe they did that. Tim Waltz, articles of impeachment have been drawn up on Tim Waltz. Now, I just assume every governor and every president has articles of impeachment sitting in some opposite party member's drawer, you know.

SPEAKER_36 14:48

Ready to rock.

SPEAKER_32 14:49

Ready to rock and roll. So I don't even know if it's a big deal that articles of impeachment have been drawn up, but they've been drawn up. And Tim Waltz yesterday was just really upset. The federal government is cutting off funding for all of our programs.

DEI Rollback And Policy Shifts

SPEAKER_28 15:00

What am I gonna do? I don't know why this is so hard to understand. And I will continue to say this. You can trust me on this. The person who's angriest about this fraud is me. There is certainly no political upside to having upside except for those donations you've been taking. You set this freaking thing up. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Because it undermines and we have got criminals. They're called Somali pirates.

SPEAKER_32 15:35

You've been bringing them in by the pound.

SPEAKER_36 15:39

So it certainly isn't good for me. Of course it's not. It's also not good for Minnesotans. It's so sunny. Oh, I wish it wasn't so sad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_32 15:48

Now I am making a genuine effort to try to follow up on some of our throwaway stories, the contextual stories that we give. So yesterday we played the clip of the gentleman who went to a committee hearing meeting and said, I've bought a gun and I'm going to shoot the president. It's good for long-range shots. Well, he got a little visit from the Secret Service yesterday. And uh he also showed up on Fox Local where he was at. I don't even know where he's at. It's irrelevant. Turns out, turns out, Ron, we got punked.

SPEAKER_33 16:18

And I just gave the Secret Service my my picture I took. You're talking the Secret Service, right? Oh, they just left. They're the ones that left before you the Secret Service that just left. They didn't arrest you, though. Um may or may not happen. We'll see. Are you worried about being arrested? Um no, I'm a harmless old man. And and I believe in freedom of speech, and I believe in uh informing my city council of what things was.

SPEAKER_35 16:43

But that speech though was a little bit threatening, though, wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_33 16:47

It turned out that way, but but this is the kill the president. No, no, no, no. This is the way it went up. I'm in the habit of saying you shoot a headshot or you shoot a picture rather than you take a picture.

SPEAKER_35 16:59

So when you said shoot, you meant by a camera, not a gun. Of course. But you mentioned a gun, though.

SPEAKER_33 17:05

No, a high power ATR 36X arriving shortly that can let you take a picture from a very long distance away. We got duped too.

SPEAKER_32 17:18

That's not a gun model. That's a camera lens model. That's a telephoto lens model. That's perfect for taking headshots from up to a mile away. It's a telephoto camera lens.

SPEAKER_33 17:31

Actually used to shoot the president of the United States. I'm not kidding.

SPEAKER_42 17:35

You see why people that's the part that did it.

SPEAKER_35 17:40

You don't want to shoot the President Trump. Of course, not never did want to.

SPEAKER_33 17:48

I have no intent of shooting any public official except with a telephoto lens.

SPEAKER_36 17:55

If he was really serious about this with a telephoto lens, he would not have mentioned I'm serious in his speech, you know.

SPEAKER_32 18:04

You know, trolls come in all shapes and sizes. Okay, trolls come in all shapes and sizes. For example, we have oh, I've got the wrong thing here. Troll come in all shapes and sizes. For example, here's another troll that sometimes does this, although his is a little easier to catch on to. This is in a city senate committee on state affairs.

SPEAKER_47 18:27

My name's Alex Stein. I'm considered one of the sexiest men in conservative politics. And one thing I want to say a lot of people are gonna hear my testimony and you're gonna say you're anti-LGBTQ. I want to say that's impossible because I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, so obviously I have a lot of gay pride. But you know, a lot of conservatives like yourself, you want to outlaw transgenders and women's sports. I disagree. I like transgenders and women's sports because you can gamble on them and win money. And I won so much money on Leah Thomas's propeller in that pool. I almost turned draft queens, uh, draft kings, excuse me, into draft queens. And you know, I I actually like transgenders in the military too, because first of all, transgenders are some of the meanest people on planet earth, so they make a good soldier, don't you think? And then, you know, second of all, transgenders love to do mass shootings. So that's perfect for a military veteran. And then on top of that, the suicide rate is incredibly high among transgender people. So we could just use them like the Taliban has suicide bombers. Maybe you guys can actually, you know, if you commit suicide, actually help us in the battlefield.

SPEAKER_32 19:23

So that would be what's crazy about this is there's no outbursts. They're letting them go because they're like stop watching the guys sit next to him.

Trolling, Speech, And Secret Service Mix‑Up

SPEAKER_47 19:30

His eyes are like uh but they're like logic tracks, right? Good. So I think we need transgenders in the military and women's. Look at the micro smile. This is an asymmetrical problem. Because, first of all, no dude cares if like a bisexual woman comes in there and tries to use like a pee funnel, you know, some boy comes in there, some you know, stud comes in there, wants to pee in the urinal. No guy's gonna be threatened by you know a trans woman, but we don't want these gargoyles in a dress, you know, some chick with a dick coming in there and trying to pee or poop next to my girlfriend because that's disgusting. And well, I was just gonna say something. Let me just say so. We're sick of these transgenders trying to invade women's personal spaces. These people have autogonophilia, they're sexual perverts, and they actually get satisfaction from going there and looking under a stall. So these are mentally ill people that are on hormones, that are on all kinds of pills, they're impulsive, and they do not belong in a women's breast room. So if some of you lesbians want to come in and pee next to me, you're more than welcome. So we just don't let the chicks with dicks in the in the women's room, and you guys are all welcome in the men's room.

SPEAKER_32 20:42

So apparently, you gotta you gotta be a little bit more over the top. You can't say you're gonna shoot the president. And even when you say the exact model number of the telephoto lens, even the secret service was like, is that a gun? And they showed up. They did, by the way, take a handgun out of his house. They're like, Well, they took a gun. It's like, yeah, I gotta do something.

SPEAKER_36 21:00

That duo reminded me of you and me. You're over there talking, and my eyes are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, am I in trouble?

unknown 21:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_32 21:10

Harmie Dylan was on with Benny Johnson, and she addressed the issue with Elon Omar's immigration fraud.

SPEAKER_23 21:16

Contempt, and and right next to her, Rashida Tlaybe, you know, another person with an immigrant background. Um look, Elon Omar has some legal issues regarding her citizenship. I'll just leave it at that. Um, I think that they've been well covered in the press. But uh, it's shameful. And I I am so happy to be an American, and you know, people need to get out there and touch some grass in other countries and see what they go through to really appreciate how great we have it in this country. And but it's freedom isn't free, and every generation needs to fight for it. And if we're complacent about it, we will lose it. And history has shown us that uh that civilizations that get fat and happy usually lose it. And we're so fat and happy that we're handing out billions of dollars. To scamsters in these blue states and not caring about it at the same time that California has the lowest breeding standards in the United States and has uh broken roads and has an open border and has, you know, there's sewage issues, and you name it. It's it's insane. And so we cannot take this beautiful country for granted. I will not, as long as I draw breath, always be very proud to be an American and fight for what America means and why my parents brought me here to this country.

SPEAKER_16 22:28

Yeah, that was an interesting answer. Could you like elucidate at all for us on these citizenship issues for Ilhan Omar? Will we ever see anything on that?

SPEAKER_23 22:36

I will I will tell you that I was very of anything, but I think I think it's been well covered, and I covered it certainly myself before I joined the DOJ. That you know, certainly it's it's it's a it's a truism of immigration law that if you commit fraud in the course of obtaining your citizenship, if you lie about being a uh the oh that you weren't a Nazi um you know guard at a concentration camp, you can be denaturalized. If you lie about um your marriage status that on which your citizenship depends, or or your familial status, or what have you. If you fake uh any of those documents or you lie, that's a grounds for denaturalization. And so I think it's been you know credibly alleged that there are you know serious questions about the circumstances of the paperwork around that naturalization. I'll just leave it at that. I'm not working on that issue. That's not part of what the civil rights division does. But I think we need to police that seriously. It is a precious privilege to be granted citizenship as a naturalized citizen in this country.

Activist Theater And Culture Clash

SPEAKER_32 23:38

I don't think Ilan Omar is going to be denaturalized. I wouldn't be surprised if she got charged in association with some fraud somewhere. But I'd be shocked if she was denaturalized because it sets a really hairy precedent politically. As far as black and white letter law, no-brainer. Yeah. Right? But we're way past the no-brainer side of things. And why are we past the no-brainer side of things? Because there's two sides of the brain, the left and the right. Okay. And a law isn't a law unless it's enforced. And when just like your brain is divided, if our government is divided, specifically law enforcement, you're never gonna get the results you want because they're gonna spend time fighting each other instead of getting rid of actual criminals that fight us, the peasants on the street. Dan Bongino, bless his heart, and I say that in the most Midwestern way I can. Okay, bless his heart, Dan Bongino goes into the FBI and it just it I it's hard to know if he had success, had failure, ran into the brick wall. I don't know.

SPEAKER_36 24:35

It seems to me like it overwhelmed him.

SPEAKER_32 24:38

It feels that way, but there's also an element of he goes in, sees what's really going on, gets read in on the situation, comes back out, does his podcast for three years, and seriously influences the 2028 election and the zeitgeist. Because you got to remember, before Dan Bongino went into prison, he was one of the two or three people that took over for the Rush Limbaugh spots around the country. Yeah. So his radio show, three hours a day, was going out to millions and millions and millions of people.

SPEAKER_36 25:04

He took our spot.

SPEAKER_32 25:08

Uh we we were teed up, but then I ended up getting indicted and it didn't work out. Yeah, in fact, one of the early reviews on the Peasants Perspective podcast, the first time it's that account's been since deleted, but one of the early reviews was really complimentary and said, This is the next Taylor, me, is the next generation's Rush Limbaugh. And I was like, oh, that really, that really touched me. Okay, so Dan Bongino on his podcast explains that there's really two FBIs.

SPEAKER_09 25:34

So I made the point early on when I got back on the air that we have a real problem, a huge problem. And we saw it over and over and over again. That's there's two FBIs right now. I saw it up close and personal. We need a law enforcement counter-terror, counter-espionage organization. We need it. However, is the FBI the answer going forward? That's gonna be for you all to decide, folks. This broke last night.

SPEAKER_30 25:56

Cash Patel out with an allegation that the prior FDI, FBI, obtained his phone records and not only his. What can you tell us about that?

SPEAKER_04 26:05

Right. This has been breaking in the last hour or so. We are told that according to Cash Patel, the FBI director, the prior bureau leadership obtained his phone records and phone records to current White House Chief of Staff, Suzy Wiles, back in 2022 and 2023. This eventually led into the Jack Smith special counsel investigation into then former President Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_09 26:27

You're investigating Cash Patel and Susie Wiles. Why again? It appears that this was pretty well hidden, and this would happen all the time. There were prohibited access records. We had to go through that whole process, dig that up, change that process. We had to eliminate a entire squad in the Washington field office. There are investigations going on right now into this stuff. We found hidden, you know, stuff in rooms nobody told us about. We had to go out and be proactive. And I'm guessing that's what happened here. That it was probably secreted away, and someone said, Hey, what's this?

SPEAKER_32 27:00

And all of a sudden you find out that the DOJ was spying on Trump again.

SPEAKER_36 27:06

Never stopped.

Immigration Fraud Questions And Civic Duty

SPEAKER_32 27:08

That's the that's it right there. Yeah. They may have never stopped. Do we actually have two FBIs, or do we have a couple patriots that get appointed and confirmed by the Senate, and then they go in and they just get chewed up? So here's Mark Meadows, who is the former chief of staff of Donald Trump. Now, I Mark Meadows is one of these people where it's like he just is one of the politicians that did not serve Trump. He didn't have the backbone. He was way too indoctrinated in the Washington. In Portuguese, there's a word called moly. And moly describes spaghetti, right? When spaghetti goes from being rigid to being soft and kind of flexible, they call it moly. And you describe people who are kind of apathetic and lazy molaise, right? You're moly. You're you're soft, you're weak. You have no backbone, no spine. You're moly. Mark Meadows is moly. He's moly. He's soft. He's weak. He's no backbone. But he was on with Laura Ingram talking about Cash Patel and Susie Wiles being spied on, and presumably him too.

SPEAKER_15 28:03

Here to weigh in as Mark Meadows, former White House chief of staff. Mark, um is that out of the realm of past possibility that the FBI might have lied about spying on Suzy Wiles and Cash Patel?

SPEAKER_42 28:18

Well, it's not out of the realm of possibilities, but you know, you've hit the nail on the head. I can tell you, it's the baby steps that we're seeing on this front, uh, where the drip, drip, drip of accountability is starting to come out. But I find it breathtaking that here we are finding that Susie Wiles and Cash Patel uh were surveilled. But more importantly, we have to put it in the context. This was a person that was working on President Trump's campaign, who is candidate Donald Trump running against uh Joe Biden. And yet here they are surveilling it. Uh but listen, this is not the first time. We shouldn't be surprised, Laura, because we've had hundreds of people, myself included, that have been surveilled for many, many uh months uh over the last uh several years. Uh Arctic Frost, you've covered that. But those on the left of center media, they don't dare mention it. Uh, thank goodness for Chuck Grassley and uh Chairman Jim Jordan and their tenaciousness on getting to the bottom of it. But we're just now seeing uh the tip of the iceberg, I believe.

SPEAKER_32 29:28

I actually believe Grassley and Jordan, these guys, it's like I think they know way more, but it's so overwhelming they have to leak these little things out that then kind of get America to slowly warm up to the idea that the government might just be completely and totally wildly, utterly corrupt, and there's no wrapping our hands around it in control of it. For example, the Department of Homeland Security created after 9-11, infused with all kinds of Patriot Act powers. Christy Noam was on the PBP podcast, and she said something that was stunning. Or is it? Is it at this point just par for the course you should expect this?

SPEAKER_50 30:01

Came into this office. It was uh Elon and his team were extremely helpful to me. They helped me identify that that some of my own employees in my department had downloaded software on my phone and my laptop to spy on me.

SPEAKER_32 30:17

Stop. Uh some of my own employees in my department downloaded software on my phone to spy on me. Then she's gonna go on and say, and some of the other politics, as in other people appointed by Trump to record our meetings.

SPEAKER_50 30:30

Wow. Uh they had done that to several of the politicals. Um so we ended up bringing in people, and and that was something that if you didn't have those technology experts here in the department looking at all of our laptops and our phones and recognizing that kind of software, it it would still be happening today.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

What what happened to the individual that was uh you know, had your phone uh that that was being spied on? What happened to those individuals?

SPEAKER_50 30:56

Fired. Fired. Brought in polygraphed, fired, yes, many of them out of that that arm of the department that are in charge of security on laptops, phones. Refreshing um also you know, you think that's enough? We had to we had to sweep my office on a regular basis to make sure that there's not listening devices in it. Um it's it's very uh it was very prevalent, and I think that what happened at this department was individuals um had gotten away with for years spying on people who were politically appointed and and trying to stop an administration that was coming in and trying to fix this country and keep us safe.

SPEAKER_32 31:31

So you think about a deep state, an administrative state, a bureaucratic state, that's it. The entire wing of people in charge of security at the Department of Home and Security, lie detectors fired. I hope indictments come. Because fired to me doesn't seem like a lot. I went and yelled at the Capitol because they did, in fact, steal an election and they put me in prison for seven years. You can't imagine what they have done if I had threatened to shoot the president with a telephoto lens.

SPEAKER_36 31:57

Fired should just be the first step because you can't have that ongoing.

SPEAKER_32 32:00

Yeah, the real question is what did they say?

SPEAKER_36 32:03

Right.

SPEAKER_32 32:04

Did you tell you were directed? Were you shown? I mean, Trump says he knows everything they're doing. I don't know. He might just assume they're so corrupt that they'll always make the bad move.

SPEAKER_38 32:13

Right.

Two FBIs? Surveillance And Leaks

SPEAKER_32 32:14

John uh Kurt Kirakow, fellow Greek, I should be able to say his name. If he's from the mainland, I'm from Crete. So we have different last names. But John Kirakow was on. We're gonna have a couple clips from him. He was on with Matt Gates on a little panel, and he starts talking about something that was called ARP Operation Arctic Joke. So along with Epstein file releases, Toronto Trump has those previous executive orders to release information on JFK and MLK and RFK June RFK and other, you know, deeply held confidential CIA documents. So we're getting a lot of documents back from like the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, even. And one of them exposes something they called Operation Arctic Choke. And Operation Arctic Choke was a sub-operation of MK Ultra, and John Kirchow is familiar with it. And now that we have this document, it's kind of stunning. Again, America has had a branch of the government that has been nefarious for a long time. And based on their nefarious activities, it seems obvious to me that that ideology, that mindset, whatever it is, has infiltrated the other parts of government. It's called Project Artichoke.

SPEAKER_22 33:24

And for anyone who's not familiar, apparently it ran from 1951 to 1956, and it focused on uh behavior control, interrogation techniques, uh psychological manipulation.

SPEAKER_32 33:35

But the one of the things I want to point out with these programs like MKUltra or Articchoke or you know Northwoods, well, Northwoods was a little bit different, but you know, a lot of these programs that are that are trying to discover psychological manipulation techniques. So this has a beginning and an end date. But what they're doing is they're learning. And once they learn and they have a uh technique, then it gets written into a standard operating procedure manual and away we go. And now they do it. It's no longer an operation to learn it, it's an operation to do it and apply the principles they learn through things like MKUltra and artichoke to the general population. So start with a small group, figure it out, and then you can go and apply those techniques to the science.

SPEAKER_22 34:16

Science. That was the big one. And um I want to know what your take on that was. Would do you know anything about it? What's your thoughts? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_31 34:32

Project Artichoke was a sub-operation of MKUltra, which by now most Americans know that MKUltra was experimentation essentially on American citizens, mostly using LSD. There were a bunch of sub-operations here, Project Artichoke being one, where the CIA began by experimenting on its own employees. And after that didn't go well, they began experimenting on just innocent residents of San Francisco. What they did as part of Project Artichoke was to break into um a um uh uh a vaccine developer in Switzerland, steal the formula for some of the vaccines, and then try to manipulate the formula so that they could give somebody a vaccine, have it act like a truth serum, and then get these people to involuntarily tell the truth, with the idea being that you would use it on Russians and Chinese.

SPEAKER_32 35:35

The way this all got started in the very early 1950s, all right, there was so the CIA precarious activity using vaccines as the delivery method to try to create like a truth serum, a compliance serum to make people, you know, moly and have no spine or backbone when under interrogation and under pressure. But here's the thing the CIA got duped into doing this for the wrong reasons. And so this is another one of those things where we're like, you know, we assume these people are all-knowing and all-powerful, and the reality is they're just blind leading the blind.

SPEAKER_31 36:20

That was not true. The Russians were not developing that technology, the Chinese were, but we didn't know that the Chinese were. And so the CIA panicked and said, Well, we've got to beat the Russians to this, uh, to this technology, this science. And so they started this experimentation, as I said, first on their own employees and then on just innocent Americans. As part of uh Operation Artichoke.

SPEAKER_32 36:45

Yeah, apparently it was called so there was a misdirect played on the CIA to get them to do those things. And it turns out it was never the Russians in the first place. How many times do you think that I would call that a false flag? It's not a false flag in the conventional sense of some big chaotic event happens, but it's a false flag that created a domino effect of let's figure out how to make a truth serum using drugs. And and while we're at it, let's just violate all the constitutional rights of everybody that we're doing it with.

SPEAKER_36 37:11

Well, false flags are a tool too. Huh? False flags are a tool too.

DHS Spying Claims And Firings

SPEAKER_32 37:16

They're a tool tool, but it's a misdirect. The false flag is the misdirect. We did it, but we blame it on you. Right. So the Chinese are doing it, they're gonna get the Americans to think the Russians are doing it, and it just kind of misdirects the whole agenda there. But they did learn some stuff, yeah, which you know starts to wonder the time frame they're doing in that, and then the slow trickle of increased vaccines. This matters, and the reason I brought up Operation Artichoke to just show how there's an easy misdirect. What's going on right now in the Middle East with Iran is is truly scary, right? We could be on the cusp of World War III, which, if you ask the doomsday clock people, is every day. But because of the existence of nuclear weapons. But the Iran thing is very tricky because when I studied international politics, there's different ways to assess and ways to assess political leaders and nation states. You have the wild man, uh, the madman theory of international politics. These are your Kim Jong-un's. These are people that are irrational, the Ayatollah, right? It's personal interests and they use the power of the state for their personal interests. They're unpredictable. Uh, they don't, they don't, this normal carous that sticks don't work because usually there's an ideological bend or a chip on their shoulder or an honor debt or something, right? Um, then you've got other theories about people being more rational, like when you put someone's self-um uh when you put someone's life on the line, they'll usually acquiesce to whatever.

SPEAKER_36 38:45

They're self-interests.

SPEAKER_32 38:46

If you can pressure a nation state saying, hey, if you don't do X, Y, Z, we'll nuke you or we'll sanction you or do whatever, you know. They're okay. They're rational actors. They work in their best interest, and when their best interest is don't get dead, that's when it looks like they're working out of their best interest. But what the real thing is is don't get dead. So there's all there's other different, there's like seven or eight different generalized international relationship ideologies. And every nation state kind of has a characteristic that you have to learn and and how to deal with it. We're gonna listen to John Kennedy, senator from Louisiana, and I'm gonna speed this up because he talks with a nice southern cadence, a little bit slow. It's a longer clip. It was a speech he gave on the Senate floor. This is an important speech, okay, because we can get sucked into a gray zone a lot of times, especially with the modern America secular zeitgeist that's out there. This idea that, you know, we should never go to war with anybody, we should never prevent somebody from doing something bad until they've done something bad, right? And there's and there's a whole live and let live. And that's just the American way. But every now and then a particular challenge pops up that if you don't address it quickly, it will become a festering sore. Iran is one of those festering sores. Now you can go through and you should go through and understand the history of Iran. It's muddled and messy because early on in their modern existence in the modern age, they they leased out, sold, gave oil rights to British petroleum. So British Petroleum became the main employer. They didn't pay a lot. There wasn't a lot of benefit for the state of Iran. But BP and Britain, by extension, were making a ton of money off Iran. Eventually, a populist movement arose and they wanted to take their natural resources back, just like they did in Venezuela, just like they did in Cuba, just like they did in Panama, Nicaragua. Should I go on? Every nation state, every country, the land and her people, feel a right to their natural resources below their feet. I know. It's crazy, right? Wild thought. Okay. Wild thought. It's like personal property to the nation-state level. Again, a people being the individual and the people being the collective of people. So, anyways, so this issue with Iran is not cut and dry, right? We want to have oil rights and we want them in the greater oil distribution network, but we can't really get along with them diplomatically. There's issues. The other thing is, is they've never wanted to plug in into the international IMF World Bank banking system. They want to have a gold standard or a sound money standard. That's fine, right? They should have that ability. There's one problem to all of this, though. This is not a Switzerland. This is not a nation state that acts, you know, so self-interested that they know not to poke bullies in the eyeball, right? And so it's kind of like, how do you deal with this? John Kennedy gives an excellent assessment of what we're up against with Iran. And even the most rational, bleeding heart liberal is forced to make a choice choice. It's me or him. Here it is.

MKUltra, Artichoke, And Misdisdirection

SPEAKER_40 41:52

Um, about ninety percent. I agree with him, disagree with him too lately. He just kills it. Um the Aetola, it's actually been the case for the last, I don't know, 10, 15, 20 years, the Aitola has decided he wants a nuclear war. Um, why should we care? I I hear from some of my my my my my fellow Americans all the time. Why do we need to be involved in in Iran? Why should we care? Well, number one, we're not trying to start a war in Iran. The president is trying to end a war in Iran. If the Aitola gets a nuclear weapon, he will use it. He could use it against America, he could use it against Israel. I don't know who he'll use it against, and I hope I'm wrong, but he will use it. And you know what else will happen? As soon as he gets a nuclear weapon, Saudi Arabia is going to give a nuclear weapon, and the UAE is going to get a nuclear weapon, and Japan's going to get a nuclear weapon, and South Korea, and I could go on and on and on. And the more nuclear weapons you have in the world, the more likely you are to have a nuclear war.

SPEAKER_32 44:57

Well, you have to understand about that is we have a nuclear non-proliferation treaty. The signatories on that treaty are nuclear states and other non-nuclear states that have agreed with that. States like Ukraine, who gave up nuclear weapons, South Korea, South Africa who gave up nuclear weapons to sign that treaty. They weren't mature enough states to handle the responsibility of the nuclear silo. Okay. So the signatories of that treaty have an obligation to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, because if they can't, the countries he listed off are mostly our allies. They'll be like, ah, if you can't stop them from getting one, you're not going to stop. If you're South Korea, you're not going to stop North Korea. We got to have one. Because now we have to defend ourselves, not under the umbrella of the United States against them. One of the things that's been bantied about with Iran is what about the War Powers Act? The War Powers Act is the treaty. If the treaty is violated, that's automatically we go for it. We have to enforce the treaty. It's a contract. The shipping lanes, the sanctions, why can we go do what we're doing? Because those are contracts that can be enforced. You don't need a declaration of war. You just have to enforce the contracts. And the United States' job is to enforce the petrodollar. Okay. So that's why it matters contractually and why Congress isn't going to be involved in this dispute because they delegated that power when they signed off on the treaties and when they enabled the executive to make those contracts.

SPEAKER_36 46:24

You know, I'm glad that you mentioned this because that has been a question in my mind of how come Congress is involved with this action. So that is very elucidating.

Iran, Deterrence, And Treaty Logic

SPEAKER_32 46:33

There's a maxim of law that says when a judge gives an order, everything it takes to complete that order is included in it. Because an order, a judge's order is like a money order. It's an open check. A judge in New York, a magistrate judge, signed an order to collect Nicholas Maduro because of his indictment, a warrant. And that judge's order in the Southern District of New York is what paid for the military ships, the Blackhawks, you know, there's a line item that just open checkbook to go warrant the Ashets, bring Maduro to stand trial, habeas corpus. There's no declaration of war needed. That makes so much sense. Yes. When you're enforcing international contracts, you don't need a declaration of war to open fire on a pirate. Okay, because you're enforcing the contract. If you have a treaty that says if anybody gets a nuclear weapon, it's war. It's kind of like you know, a prenup. You sign the divorce when you sign the marriage. When you make that treaty, you're saying if this treaty isn't upheld, the default is war. It doesn't have to be declared. You have to enforce the treaty. Otherwise, there's no treaty.

SPEAKER_36 47:38

Now, I wonder why we haven't been educated on this as the public. And then I instantly thought, well, maybe they don't want us educated on that because they also don't want the people that they're going to use it on to be tipped off of this is the direction we're going.

SPEAKER_32 47:53

Although they know it. Okay. Right. They know it. They're smart enough to know it. But yes, they don't tell us the people because it keeps us spinning around. We're mad because Congress isn't declaring war. And so Congressmen can run on that.

SPEAKER_36 48:05

I'm going to go and fight warrior. How's that worked out the last time? Right. It creates more opportunities for more of this infighting. Yes. That we want to just create more of for someone. So let's let's continue on with Senator Kennedy.

SPEAKER_40 48:18

That's not the only thing the ITO has done since he became the Hyto. He exports terrorism. He was the person behind Hamas and his bola that has killed, that have killed so many people throughout the world. Not just in the Middle East, but across the world, including but not limited to America. That's why we ought to care. Now those missiles can't reach America yet, but they're working on one. And they can sure reach our military bases in the Middle East. And they can sure reach Israel. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. That's why we should care. And finally, the Ay Tola, if you disagree with him, and we've seen it happen on TV. We don't know how many people he's in the last six months. We don't know how many people he's tortured. I've seen estimates as high as 50,000. So that's what this business with Iran is all about. We're not trying to be the world's policeman. We're trying to stop the Aetola from being the world's policeman. We're getting a lot of support from President Xi Jinping in China. And from Adam Reputable in Russia. So that's where we find ourselves trying to stop this war. And to the Aitola, I would say Aitola. You can hate me. You can believe it. I know you can hate me. You want to you know how I sleep at night knowing that you hate me? With the fan on it. You can't accidentally put down the nuclear weapons, put down the nuclear enrichment. Stop exporting terrorism to Hamas and Hezbollah. End your missile program. Stop killing and torturing your people. That's all we want. And he's doing that as we speak. He's at war. We're trying to stop it. I'm not about to tell the president to give the president any advice. He has intelligence that I don't have. And I respect the fact that he's being very very deliberate and careful in making a decision. Um if we make a deal with Iran, let's make sure we have a protocol for it. Because my experience in watching the Hyatola through the years, I wouldn't trust this man if he was three days to I wouldn't trust him if he was three days. Anybody whose religion tells them that in order to be saved, they've got to go kill hundreds of millions of people. You can believe it if you want. As far as I'm concerned, trying to get a new religion. And that's what we're doing in Iran. We're not trying to start a war. Our president presiding today knows exactly what I talked about. He served honorable. A great physical, mental, and emotional uh expansion.

SPEAKER_32 50:49

So this is really tricky. You're up against an enemy that believes that by killing you he goes to heaven, and if you kill him and he's trying to kill you, he goes to heaven. That's it. But like it this is the challenge, right? When you have a base programming that says, my salvation requires XYZ. What do you what are we doing?

SPEAKER_38 51:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_32 51:15

It's untenable. It's an untenable situation. Iran has 90 million plus people. They've got serious weapons. This is Colonel retired Douglas McGregor talking about this the perspective from Iran's point of view.

SPEAKER_14 51:30

I think you know, I think almost everybody has figured it out right now that uh Mr. Whitkoff, in a recent interview, blurted out that uh President Trump and he expected, in view of this array uh or armada, as President Trump would call it, of military power spread across the Middle East aimed at Iran, that the Iranians would capitulate, that they would recognize the futility of resistance, and they would submit to Israeli demands and American military power, because that's what it's really all about. Well, that's ridiculous. You know, for Iran, this war is different from what it is for us. What is the difference? For Iran, this is an existential war. They are fighting for their existence. They absolutely understand how many, how much tonnage of bombs and missiles can be delivered by the United States Air Force and the U.S. Navy. They're well aware of it. They're doing everything they can to protect themselves from it and also to strike back while we do it. But they they understand it, but for them it's existential because they will not submit. They will not recognize Israeli supremacy or Jewish supremacy in the Middle East, no matter how much we threaten them.

Kennedy’s Case Against Iranian Nukes

SPEAKER_32 52:48

No matter how much we threaten them. Why? Because they're ideologically driven. Go back to last summer in some of our episodes. We were talking about this cult mindset and how this plays in. When you teach a child when they're young, by the time they're four, they've got their base operating program. And when you teach children when they're young that they're different than the goyem, the infidel, the non-believer, on and on it goes, it creates a division line that people have to work to overcome. And sometimes they never fully overcome it. They choose their associations based on their base programming. These guys are deeply indoctrinated in this stuff. They believe it. They believe it. So for them, it's not just about national survival. It'd be a lot better. Jump in with the IMF, get some credit, circulate some dollars, everything will be great. It's not about that. It's about heaven. It's about those 70 virgins waiting for me. You know what I mean? It's a completely different mindset, which is why Kushner and Whitkopf were shocked yesterday, and we got news that the Iranians have no intention of making a deal.

SPEAKER_49 54:01

Special envoy Steve Whitkopf and President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, reportedly, quote, disappointed by the morning session, according to reporting from Axias. Oman is mediating these negotiations and says technical talks are set for next week in Vienna, the home of the UN's nuclear watchdog, the IAEA. We spoke to their director uh here, Grassi, Rafael Grassi, last week about what all of that would look like. Now, President Trump sending what he calls a huge armada of US warships. It is the largest assembly of warpower from the United States since before the Iraq war. Just take a look at what this uh looks like in terms of what uh these waterways are full of with American firepower right now. The president has warned that really bad things will happen. This is his warning to Iran if they don't cut a deal. Chief.

SPEAKER_32 54:57

But they're not gonna cut a deal when they've got 70 virgins waiting for them. Maybe Trump should change his tack. Oh he should buy like, look, we have an island. It's recently vacant down in the Caribbean. It's called Little St. James. I'll set you up with 70 girls. You can pick them, you can just stay there. It'll be your own private paradise. Seriously, why not try it? Why wait for heaven? Why not have it now? John Kirchow was on with Alex Jones, and he explains why we're sitting ducks. When we talk about false flags, when we talk about misdirects, one of the things that was also shared, and I actually don't know if I even have this clip, but the recent rioting in Iran was started by an Israeli group that goes in there and stirs up the protest, which then creates the impet, you know, it's the whole cycle of let me show you how bad these guys by putting them in a position where they have to be bad.

SPEAKER_31 55:49

Okay. Imagine an aircraft carrier strike uh force or aircraft carrier battle group as a hornet's nest with the carrier itself, the nest. And you've got all these hornets flying around it. And the hornets, though, are offensive, they have the ability to defend the nest, and they have the ability to defend themselves against conventional missiles. There's no clear defense against a hypersonic missile. The Iranians have them, they've purchased them from the Chinese, they've also purchased them from the Russians. Well, we're not sure that we can defend against an Iranian supersonic missile. We've all studied the Gulf of Tonkin, we've all studied 9-11, we've all studied uh Pearl Harbor. If the Iranians actually do sink an aircraft carrier, you're right. It's World War III. Because the Israelis are gonna jump in immediately. The Israelis are itching to use nuclear weapons, especially against Iran.

SPEAKER_32 56:49

Imagine Yeah. So we just have the largest armada, and they've got the one weapon that can pierce right through any defenses we have and be done with it. Now, Tucker Carlson, actually, I'm gonna do this first. I'm gonna do Colonel Douglas McGregor first. Colonel Douglas McGregor was talking on I don't know what the show is. We play clips from him all the time. Uh, but he's with Kirchow, John Kirchow on the show. What's what's the name of this is a married couple. What's I can't remember?

SPEAKER_36 57:18

Redacted.

SPEAKER_32 57:18

Redacted. Okay, the redacted podcast. So they're talking about kind of the current situation. Mike Huckabee screwed stuff up, man. That whole, well, if Israel takes Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, some of Egypt, I mean, God gave it to him. You, you know, here we are talking about the ridiculous of the Ayatollah's belief that he's got virgins waiting for him if he just fights the infatel till his last breath. That's just as ridiculous as what Mike Huckabee said that God 5,000 years ago gave to Abraham all of this land, and the Jews today, mostly made up of Polish, Ukrainians, and Russians, are entitled to it. It's like, nah.

McGregor’s View: Existential For Iran

SPEAKER_14 57:56

So here we go. I know from my sources in the Navy that sailors actually took undershirts and stuffed them into the toilets to cause them to back up.

SPEAKER_32 58:06

So, for context on that, the Gerald Ford's been on the longest deployment it's ever been on. Those sailors haven't gotten off the boat for like 10 months. And so they're starting to flood the toilets to try to create a situation where they can get off the boat. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 58:18

I know that uh the crew is very, very unhappy with being at sea now for what, 10 months? And before this is over, it will have been a year. They went to Suda Bay. I think they tried to address some of this, and now they pulled out of Suda Bay after what, 48 hours? Uh, or a little more than that to repair things. But you're talking about something else that's that's hugely important. I don't want to go into great detail, but logistics in the region is very problematic right now. Places we formerly were able to utilize, we can't because of the Huckabee interview, frankly. Uh that that particular revelation has turned almost everybody against us uh in the region. So the Navy is now looking as far away as India and ports there that they can go to as required.

SPEAKER_32 59:11

There's a documentary on Netflix that I watched years ago at my father-in-law's house because I don't have a Netflix account, but it was about the war in Iraq. Or it could have been Afghanistan, it doesn't matter. But you have these American soldiers there. Actually, it was Syria. It was Syria. And it was following around mercenaries, former American soldiers that went back to Syria to sign up to fight on one side or the other. So these are just American mercenaries. And there's a scene in the beginning where there's some side of roadside bomb or suicide bomb, and a lot of civilians are killed. And there's a father, assuming he's Muslim, he's in Syria, he grabs his wife, her body, who is limp and probably dead, likely dead, and he's got children in tow that are screaming and crying. And he brings his dead wife to the paramedic, which is this American that's serving the Syrian army or whichever army for aid. He's there as a medic. And in his language, and it's being translated on the screen, it says, This is what religion does, this is what religion does, this is what religion does, this is what religion does over and over and over again. Why are we doing this? You have the Israelis who believe they are entitled to everything from the Euphrates to the Nile, and they'll act on that belief. Don't believe me? Ask the people in the West Bank or the Gaza Strip or where they've the Israelis have been illegally settling for decades. The Ayatollah believes he'll go to heaven if he kills the Jews and the Christians and everybody that doesn't believe in his strain of Islam. Shi'ite Islam. This is what religion does, as Donald Trump said when he campaigned in 2016. They're fighting over sand, and they've been fighting over sand for thousands of years. The best we can expect is a detente. But we're not going to get that because the truth is being exposed. These people are ideologically driven, and there's no solution to that. How do you prove to Mike Huckabee that Abraham didn't give the Jews the deed intending it was going to be Netanyahu? Feels like his mind is pretty well made up. Tucker Carlson, Israel is even double-crossing America. They're making a shift because in America we're starting to go, how many years have we been at war for Israel? How many countries have we taken out for Israel? And what have we got for it?

Carriers, Hypersonics, And Escalation Risk

SPEAKER_06 1:01:31

For real. But what about the United States? Israel's benefactor, its closest ally. Why would they want that? Well, maybe if you're gaming this out a little bit, you've decided we need a new superpower. Public opinion in this country has swung against us so hard. This bipartisan consensus that we're its closest ally is disintegrating before our very eyes. And let's be honest with ourselves, this is not going to continue forever. We need another country to be aligned with. Now, how many big countries are there to choose from? It's got to be physically large, big population, nuclear armed. Not too many. The big ones would be China and India. But China, unfortunately, is a Han ethno state. So you can't really turn its population against itself in order to increase your own power. It's not going to work. It's resistant to this, to manipulation. And that leaves India. And it was probably no coincidence that the Prime Minister of India, Prime Minister Modi, spoke to Knesset today about the ancient ties between Israel and India. Bottom line, yes, Israel is moving on from the United States at some point, probably sooner rather than later, to India. And so weakening the United States in a war with Iran is not all bad. In fact, it might be good because then there's no rivalry at all in your region. It's you, the only country with nuclear weapons and everybody else. So you can kind of do whatever you want. You don't have to worry about hostile neighbors. You can expand the size of your territory, for example. You can move your borders in all directions. Who's going to stop you? No one. So if you game us out for a minute, the things that from an American perspective seem horrifying, like real downsides. Holy smokes, we could tank the US economy. We could wreck the energy sector, at least temporarily. Some of our key Arab allies could be disabled by this. Those all seem very bad from an American perspective. Are they so bad from an Israeli perspective? No, they're not, actually. They may be the point long term.

SPEAKER_32 1:03:57

So here we are. Sitting ducks, surrounding Iran, largest armada since World War II or invasion of Iraq or whatever it is. They have hypersonic missiles. They have an ideology that says kill and go to heaven. The Jews have an ideology that says kill and take their land. We're entitled to it. And we're the mediators. Because why? Oh, oil. Oh, yeah, oil. But we make all the oil. We don't even need their oil. Yeah, but some of our low-key allies that screw us over and take our foreign aid to buy back the oil need it.

SPEAKER_36 1:04:31

It's exasperating.

SPEAKER_32 1:04:33

If only we had some tools like AI that could help us game this out and figure it out and you know make us an effective fighting force, and maybe we can go and actually win. Well, Pete Heggseth, thank you for reinstilling the Boy Scouts with some energy, but he put anthropic, which up till now has had all the government contracts to do AI and Department of War stuff. And Pete Heggseth said, Anthropic, you have a problem with your AI. It won't let us kill. It has its own built-in guardrails that prevent us from executing necessary orders. And so you need to take those guardrails off, or we're going to cancel our contracts. Here's the CEO of Palantir because they made their decision. They're pulling out. They're not going to let the government have their AI because they believe it's too powerful for the government. So let's hear the CEO of Anthropics' perspective.

Regional Logistics And Backlash

SPEAKER_19 1:05:25

About some of the things that are more like in the, you know, in the kind of public awareness and the actions of wider society. Um, you know, it it is surprising to me that we are, you know, in in my view, so close to these models reaching the level of human intelligence. And and yet there doesn't seem to be a wider recognition in society of what's about to happen. It's as if this tsunami is coming at us, and you know, it's it's so close, we can see it on the horizon, and yet people are coming up with these explanations for oh, it's not actually a tsunami. Tsunami, it's you know that they, you know, that's just a trick of the light. Like it's some, you know, and I think along with that, there hasn't been a public awareness of the risks. And, you know, therefore, our governments haven't acted to address the risks. There's even an ideology that, you know, we should just try to accelerate as fast as possible, which, you know, I understand the benefits of the technology. I wrote Machines of Loving Grace, but I think there hasn't been an appropriate realization of the risks of the technology, and there certainly hasn't been action. So I would say that the technical work on controlling the AI systems has gone maybe a little better than I expected, and kind of the societal awareness has gone maybe a little worse than I expected. So I'm I'm about where I was a few years ago.

SPEAKER_32 1:06:41

And I guess there's another clip in this interview where he goes on to talk about how essentially what they were trying to do with anthropic was instill, you know, essentially don't kill orders into it and uh don't hit the nuclear button orders, which seems like good guardrails. The problem is the company was putting the guardrails in, not the department of war. Okay. And the department of war has to reserve the right to hit the big red button. So here's where Alex Carp, CEO of Palantir, talks about kind of this situation. And he's like, what's happening is this is a war between Silicon Valley, who wants to tell the AI what it wants, and DC and the Department of War who want to tell the AI what it wants. And what the Silicon Valley is saying is that you, DC, Department of War, are not going to honor things like, I don't know, the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or things. So we need to bake it in so you can't override those things. And meanwhile, you've got DC that's like, hey, we need to be able to control AI in case it violates your constitutional rights or something. We need to be able to decide. It needs to be AI has to be responsive to policymakers and elected legislatures and the chain of command and not to its own guardrails that Silicon Valley set up who are not elected. Okay, so you're both wanting the same control.

SPEAKER_44 1:07:58

The small island in Silicon Valley that would love to decide what you eat, how you eat, and monetize all your data should not also decide who lives under a country and on what your conditions. There are elections, there are rules, they should be enforced, a transfer of one president to another, and the the view of Silicon Valley that we get to decide should not be the way these things are decided. Of course, this led to protests. My house has been protested for many months, almost every day. Our offices have been protested. Many Palantirians who do not just follow what I say but are critical people uh protested against it internally. Some people were so upset about it that they left. These are very hard decisions. I respect the people that that decided they can't be involved in this, but we have a position.

SPEAKER_46 1:08:40

And are you comfortable though with the Trump administration's approach on the border?

SPEAKER_44 1:08:44

Look, everybody who uh knows me personally like you knows that I've been a card-carrying progressive my whole life. My family is progressive. I have a degree in what amounts to progressive thought. Obviously, there are many things I would do differently, and I've I've never stopped being critical of this administration. I'm not planning to uh vote for this administration. So there are things I do differently. The core issue, though, is who decides? And let me to the people who want to reduce the complexity. It's commonly known that our software is used in operational context at work. Do you really think the war fighter is going to trust a software company that pulls the plug because something becomes controversial with their life? Currently, when you're a war fighter, your life depends on your software. They will never trust you if you pull the plug just because you're unpopular.

SPEAKER_32 1:09:38

Imagine being a white soldier flying into battle, and AI realizes that you're supposed to kill five uh, you know, black targets, terrorists. Oh, sorry, white soldiers worth way less than those five lives algamated. You know what I mean? Like so that's that's a good question. Lucky Palmer had a little to say about the topic as well.

Religion, Ideology, And Endless War

SPEAKER_12 1:09:59

I mean, is there you take us to these headquarters, right? Have you guys had certain discussions about what you will not do?

SPEAKER_20 1:10:07

So I mean uh it's not really totally up to us in that we are working with the US government. And I generally believe that the US government, especially the US military, makes better decisions when it has better information. I mean, when the United States has a pretty good history of doing the right thing when it's able to. And obviously we've made mistakes, we're not perfect, but I do believe that we're much, much better than a lot of these other countries. And I think that you'll also see a lot of companies saying, you know, here's where we draw the line, uh, here's what the policy should be, here's what we're gonna allow the government to do or not do. And I don't think that's generally the place of Silicon Valley companies. They shouldn't be telling the government what their policy is, you know, build technology, advocate for policy, don't try to tell the government what their policy is going to be, and certainly don't try to control policy by refusing to give the government the best tools and by giving the military the best tools. I mean, like if you want to change immigration policy, the best way to change that is to change immigration policy, not to deny the Department of Homeland Security the technology they need to enforce the laws on the book. And the same thing with the military. If you don't like what the military is doing in a particular operation, the right thing to do is speak out about that, not to say they shouldn't have weapons or they shouldn't have tools that are going to keep them safe.

SPEAKER_32 1:11:20

Seems logical. Seems logical. Here's Paul Scarp again talking about policymakers dictating to AI rather than the other way around.

SPEAKER_44 1:11:30

We're unpopular when we built Palantir in Silicon Valley, and we're still highly controversial and unpopular in Silicon Valley because we have a very differentiated view than our colleagues in Silicon Valley.

SPEAKER_21 1:11:41

Yeah, so in other words, uh Google famously uh basically backed off a$10 billion contract with the Department of Defense, Maven amid employee protests. You're you're basically saying that you know, not gonna happen at Pencil Cier. Pense here is just a good thing.

SPEAKER_44 1:11:56

Just to add a little color to this this discussion, um many people believe, I happen to share this belief, that the present and the future uh ability to control the rule of law and its application will be determined by our ability to harness and master artificial intelligence and this precursor uh machine learning.

unknown 1:12:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_44 1:12:18

It is a very, very radical decision to say you will not help the U.S. on this. Now, I believe it's every right of Google and their engineers to make a decision. I believe that, however, that they should not be making this decision. I don't think any other consumer internet should make a decision. U.S. legislators and voters should make these decisions. So de facto, Google and other companies are deciding what the role and stature of the U.S. will be in the present and the future. I think most people, including myself in this country and around the world, are very uncomfortable with the idea that Google and other companies will define who are the winners and losers today, tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow. Now, if that's your position, if you think that these small number of people living on an island that seems to be devoid of any of the cultural norms that the rest of us tend to share, should make these decisions, that is a radical position you have to bring to the American people and explain to them why you are making these decisions. At Palantir, we have a very controversial position that makes us largely unpopular. We at Palantir believe that those decisions should be made by the U.S. legislator, by our representatives, and by the courts. And that we as citizens should agitate for views that we believe.

SPEAKER_21 1:13:38

In other words, in other words, Palantir is going to work with either government, whether it's the Trump administration or we've worked for three administrations.

Israel’s Strategic Pivot And Power Math

SPEAKER_44 1:13:47

As long as the judiciary is implemented, is putting checks and balances on our, on our on the implementation, as long as people are working within accordance of law. I I think some of these laws, by the way, should be changed. I mean, as an individual, I grew up in a progressive family. I grew up at demos, I went to I got a PhD in what could amount to progressive German thought, living half half my life in what could be argued as the most progressive part of the world, Europe. Uh, I believe that um I believe that there are checks and balances. I I do think our legal system is way too brutal, um, and that we need to have a discussion about that. I don't believe the brutality of our legal system should be adjudicated in a tiny island of uh of uh on which people live that have very different ideas about how the world should work than the majority of our citizens.

SPEAKER_32 1:14:34

So it seems like such a logical thing, right? But we're the peasants. And every day we talk about the government and how corrupt they are. Are you really gonna make me weigh some Silicon Valley masters versus the masters of DC? Are they the same thing? Is this the Silicon Valley guys that want to spy on the DC people that we elected? Like the two FBIs, the two DHSs, the administration. Lucky Palmer kind of rounds it out real simple. Makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_20 1:15:13

I'd say it's a lot scarier, for example, to imagine a weapon system that doesn't have any level of intelligence at all. There's no moral high ground to make a landmine that can't tell the difference between a school bus full of children and Russian armor. It's not a question between smart weapons and no weapons. It's a question between smart weapons and dumb weapons.

SPEAKER_32 1:15:31

Oh, okay. Well, you contextualize it like that. Okay, you're right. We can just set man landmines off, and it doesn't know if it's killing an American citizen or a kid or a or a terrorist. At least I will make an effort. Really interesting topic. It's a tsunami that's coming, and a lot of us deny it's coming. I mean, I cover it. I don't know. You have the kind of the creator of these LLM models saying, listen, implementation is totally different. There's like actual resources that have to be taken out of the ground and converted into these robots and stuff, and you know, these data centers, like, yeah, it's great now, but we're probably gonna stall out because of actual resource availability.

SPEAKER_36 1:16:12

Right. It's not just all Ethereum, or not, or not.

SPEAKER_32 1:16:18

That's the thing. We don't know. We just have to live here no matter what. Hillary Clinton got dragged in for a deposition yesterday in her house. She didn't get dragged in. She dragged the committee to her house in Chappaqua or wherever she lives. And uh there was a there was something that came out yesterday that came out with John Solomon. And it has to do with the Hillary Clinton files that were on Uma Aberdeen's email server. Now, how this all works out.

SPEAKER_36 1:16:46

Why uh remind people who that is.

SPEAKER_32 1:16:50

Anthony Wiener?

SPEAKER_36 1:16:51

No. Well, yeah, Uma Aberdeen.

SPEAKER_32 1:16:53

I mean So in on the the screen here, go ahead and show the screen. You've got Uma Aberdeen, who was the longtime assistant to Hillary Clinton. We're talking like personal assistant, like hey, can you get my dry cleaning and that brief and a coffee? Yeah, like everything from coffee to sitting beside her, like she's her assistant. Anthony Wiener was married to Uma Aberdeen. They have a kid together. Anthony Wiener, when he was the in the House of Representatives, and I think he was running for mayor of New York, got caught texting a minor inappropriate photos back and forth, child pornography. He only served like a year in jail, two years in jail, which by the way, that's not right either.

SPEAKER_36 1:17:33

And it was all over the news because it was funny, because his name is Wiener.

SPEAKER_32 1:17:39

So they ended up ultimately getting a divorce. And now Uma Aberdeen has married, guess who? Alex Soros, George Soros' son. So the emails, when her laptop was found, there was a whole frenzy because there was a there was actually a folder on the file labeled blackmail. So we're gonna hear a little bit about that.

AI Guardrails Versus Chain Of Command

SPEAKER_17 1:17:59

One of these memos involves the discovery of Anthony Wiener's laptop. That's more huge news to get in uh from inside the FBI. That's the news has landed the bureau. That's a little fast.

SPEAKER_32 1:18:06

Hold on a second, hold on a second. That's a little fast.

SPEAKER_17 1:18:09

A little fast, a little fast. Go back. To whether its own agents obstructed or interfered with politically sensitive cases, such as those involving Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, and President Trump.

SPEAKER_18 1:18:20

Wiener's laptop had kill switches in it. Anthony Wiener's laptop were ever released. The government would fall. Wiener's laptop had kill switches in it.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:31

Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured personal server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified operations called special access programs or SAPs.

SPEAKER_32 1:18:42

Do you remember the whole she bleach bit and destroyed her emails and I don't have them? And what does it matter anymore? And Benghazi and blah blah blah. Well, yeah, I do remember Benghazi. Those missing emails were located, all of them. And the FBI got them. So they have them. They're not missing. They have.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:59

These are the crown jewels of the American intelligence community of the United States government.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:04

The intelligence community's inspector general Charles McCullough III notified Congressional Oversight Committees on January 14th. The letter says a comprehensive review by the intelligence agencies who have final say on classification matters found, quote, several dozen emails containing classified information at the confidential secret and top secret slash SAP levels. That is even more sensitive than top secret and brings new scrutiny to the presidential candidates' handling of government secrets. Access to these programs is highly restricted and on a need-to-know basis only.

SPEAKER_15 1:19:47

The State Department spokesman had not seen the letter, but added, There are reviews and investigations going on about past email practices here at the department, and I am simply not at liberty to discuss uh uh the content.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:59

The new findings are striking, given Clinton's first public statement about her personal server.

SPEAKER_26 1:20:04

There is no classified material, so I'm certainly well aware uh of the uh classification uh requirements.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:13

According to court documents, former CIA director David Petraeus was prosecuted for sharing special access program intelligence with his biographer Paula Broadwell. Both Petraeus and then Secretary of State Clinton were required to sign non-disclosure agreements promising to protect special access programs with the understanding that a failure to do so has significant legal consequences. A new email first obtained by the Daily Caller shows the State Department knew about the personal account as early as August 2011, and suggestions to use a government BlackBerry and a.gov account were rejected by Mrs. Clinton's aide, Huma Abadinbrett. During closed door testimony last summer, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page said the Obama administration's Justice Department advised the FBI not to pursue the gross negligence statute for Hillary Clinton in the mishandling of classified information. Former U.S. attorney and House Republican John Ratcliffe led the line of questioning about the statute known as 18 USC 793. Ratcliffe, you're making it sound like it was the department that told you you're not going to charge gross negligence because we're the prosecutors. Paige interrupted. That is correct. Paige's testimony appears to conflict with then FBI Director James Comey's recommendation in July 2016 against criminal charges for Clinton.

SPEAKER_34 1:21:59

What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done honestly, competently, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.

SPEAKER_32 1:22:14

By the way, him giving that press conference itself was a violation of all protocols. The FBI never makes determination on charges, the prosecutor does. So FBI was saying don't charge because presumably Loretta Lynch actually had charging her on the table to try to make sure the Obama administration wasn't exposed. But James Comey, who originally registered way back in the day as a communist on his voter registration card, along with John Brennan, both communists, actually registered for the American Communist Party. Suddenly they're not that though.

SPEAKER_36 1:22:45

Right. Well, this is them putting this is him putting his finger on the scales.

SPEAKER_32 1:22:49

Mm-hmm. Yeah. All six foot eight of them.

SPEAKER_24 1:23:01

The transcript releases show an inherent two-tier system, one in which Hillary Clinton gets the treatment that she got, where they was actually at first concerned that they were going to charge her, and then with Loretta Lynch in charge before she recused herself, made it very clear that that was not going to happen.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:26

Next to gross negligence was a notation, quote, DOJ not willing to charge this. Only known cases are military. Cases when accused lost the information. In response to the page revelations, the president tweeted the transcripts, quote, make the Obama Justice Department look exactly like it was a broken and corrupt machine.

SPEAKER_18 1:23:46

It was filled with crap that wasn't supposed to be there. We never get to see it. Supposedly nine cops watched the videos on Wiener's laptop. They had to keep leaving the room because they couldn't stand what they were seeing. And all nine are now dead. There's names and faces and deadness. Right. Four of them were suicide. So kind of according to AI, there were about eighty cops really in the thick of things. Four of them died from suicide. That's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_32 1:24:24

Again, kind of goes on with the whole Clinton suicide list. So here is a little detail here. This is new. Come email release. This is from Lana Lakova. She's the woman that they accused General Flynn of having an affair with. Never happened ever at all. Okay. Totally destroyed her life. And she says that it says this in here. This is to Reinhold Newbar, which is which is uh Jeffrey. Excuse me, that is let me check this. Jeffrey Epstein's Oh, excuse me. Reinald Newbar is Comey's secret identity. So he commonly used that name.

SPEAKER_36 1:24:57

Like a pseudonym.

SPEAKER_32 1:24:58

So this is to me, right? You are both right. And he nailed the position I found myself in. The team comes to me yesterday and says there are over 600,000 emails on Wiener's computer. It says Wisner's, but it's Wiener's computer. They misspell their own names on purpose to prevent keyword searches. Like James Comey will often be corny with an R and an N instead of an M.

SPEAKER_36 1:25:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_32 1:25:19

Computer. And they include 10 years of Uma Abedin's emails, including emails with Hillary Rodden Clinton, and that metadata shows are from the missing BlackBerry domain used for the first months of Secretary Clinton's tenure at state. Appears Uma didn't know all her stuff was backing up to his computer. What am I gonna do? I gotta I gotta authorize the work and correct the record with Congress. Imagine what I have would have done, what I would have done to my institution if I didn't do both of these things. Not a hard call, although I hate having to do it. I covered up because I had to cover up. I covered up because they were covering up, and we were going with that lie. Wow. Wow. We've known this for years and years and years, and no one's been able to do anything about it. This Epstein stuff amounts to the biggest scandal in world history. Why? Because it ties all this stuff together, this elite cabal. The Hillary emails are missing. We're waiting for those, but I bet they tie in because we know from the Podeste email, some of the emails he sent her or Hillary Rodden Clinton sent to a roundabout way to Obama saying, let's not have pizza parties in the White House with$65,000 in hot dogs on pizza.

SPEAKER_36 1:26:28

And then what was it, like a decade of emails or and not just emails, like documents are missing between the decade leading up to 9-11?

Smart Weapons, Dumb Weapons, Hard Choices

SPEAKER_32 1:26:37

Yeah, and the Epstein emails. So we've got Hillary Clinton have some of the emails that are missing in the Podesta Leaks, some of Hillary Clinton's end up emails end up in the WikiLeaks, which link together. And now the Epstein files and these emails link those two together. The missing piece, the fourth leg of this chair, is the Clinton files, where we're gonna find out these guys probably are a huge cabal. The the crown is at risk of falling right now because of the Epstein tie-in and the Rothschilds. And if you remember, the the crown went bankrupt in 1819 and the Rothschilds bailed them out, and they got the breeding rights to the crown. So all the kings and queens of England have essentially been Rothschild bastards since then. Okay, and now Epstein was what? In charge of the Rothschild's spot on the trilateral commission, tied in with Prince Andrew, and it's very possible.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:30

Uh, I mean, I I did not expect to see something like this in my lifetime. I truly believe, based on just the little bit that we've seen so far since the three million files were released, that this may be the biggest scandal in the history of humanity. Uh not that we didn't know these kinds of things were happening, but that now we have smoking gun evidence available for anybody in the world with a computer to be able to examine for themselves. So this is an earth shattering development. Uh, I don't think the kind of people implicated in this are just going to roll over and play dead and allow you know law enforcement to. Close in and humanity to liberate itself from their clutches. So I I expect they've got tricks up their sleeve. I expect uh in the United States we're seeing a lot of the media trying to say, Well, look, see Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, as if Trump were the scandal here. Um, and and I think there's a very real chance that like a cornered animal they could become very, very dangerous, right? Uh and and this is well known. When you get a dangerous animal trapped in a corner and it has no way out, uh, it's liable to do anything. Scratch your face off, bite your eyes out. Uh, and I think they're in that kind of situation, a lot of them. And this implicates the highest levels. I mean, this goes up to the Rothschilds that sent uh Epstein$25 million for quote unquote the work in uh in 2015, as revealed in the emails. Uh, this implicates the highest levels of power above you know presidents and prime ministers. Uh, this is huge. So I I think there's a chance that we could really see some devastating impacts on the deep state on the international elitists who think they uh they would run the world better than we would. But um, I also think it's a moment of great danger because of the implications here. I mean, if this goes all the way to its logical conclusion, a lot of the most powerful people in the world are going to end up in jail.

Clinton, Epstein Files, And Oversight

SPEAKER_32 1:29:08

It's very powerful. And do you think about the ties in with Israel, the whole fact that Epstein himself was a Israel a Jewish supremacist, calling everyone else the Goyim, including bringing the potential downfall of America, the missing files during 9-11, Israel's now changing its alliance and kind of leaning a little bit more on India because that works for them. No big deal to bring down the great Satan, right? The big America. Do you not see how a cornered animal, if if Israel has implications, if England has implications, they're very tied, right? We're sitting ducks, man. We're caught in the crosshairs of this. You've got the Ayatollah who's gonna fight to the death. You've got these people who are gonna fight to the death because they are rational and when their life is on the line, they'll do whatever it takes to survive. This is a zero zero-sum game. This is probably gonna require some muscle. Lauren Boebert, uh, talking about yesterday's hearing with uh Hillary Clinton, said that they asked continuously a whole bunch of questions, and Hillary was pretty dodgy.

SPEAKER_25 1:30:09

The oversight committee you sit on has released these photos of Bill Clinton uh with all these women on Epstein Island. Uh, did anyone show those photos to the former first lady and ask her if that indeed is her husband?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:23

Uh yes. So the the secretary was shown photos of uh former president Bill Clinton uh with photos that were released in the Epstein files. And she did admit that it was her husband, but she could not admit uh where they were, when they were taken, who they were taken with, and why they were taken and what he was doing with those women. Uh so it was very difficult uh to actually get any truth from her. But we did hear uh from uh Mrs. Clinton regularly that uh the committee should ask her husband these questions if we want answers. And so we are going to be asking Bill Clinton uh questions tomorrow and see if he can recall why he was in hot tubs with these young girls and receiving massages uh from women and what exactly he was doing all those times on the Lolita Express and on Jeffrey Epstein's island. Since uh the since Hillary Clinton uh could not uh recall the conversations that she personally had with her husband once she learned about these images. We are going to take it directly to Bill Clinton himself tomorrow.

SPEAKER_32 1:31:33

Ken Starr tried this once. Yeah. It depends on what is is. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Is it your semen on her dress? Well, I mean, what is sexual relations? You know what I mean? The problem with the Clintons is people have made excuses for them for so long to admit that they're evil, vile, disgusting people. You'd have to admit that you were making excuses for evil, vile, and disgusting people.

SPEAKER_36 1:31:59

For decades. For decades.

SPEAKER_32 1:32:02

You have Norm McDonald, who made an entire career of making fun of the Clintons, and he was getting kicked off of 60 minutes everywhere. It's a tough rank. Turns out Guy was right the whole time. We should get the murder out of the White House. Anna Paulina Luna talked to Jesse Waters about the hearing yesterday, too.

SPEAKER_51 1:32:21

Look, um, I am a candidate. I've been a candidate for office now. I'm an elected official. And when you have top-tier donors, of which the Epstein Maxwell entire apparatus was, you know the names of your donors and individuals. And I do find it hard to believe that she didn't know of the relationship between the two. Obviously, you had said that, and there is White House logs that Epstein attended the White House many times. Um, there's also two reports of Galeen Maxwell kind of in and out of the same circles. And so, you know, I think the question is whether or not they were being targeted. But also too, remember, you know, when you hear the Clinton specifically say, oh, well, Bill Clinton cut all ties with Jeffrey Epstein before the actual charges were brought forward. Well, remember, President Trump has said the same thing. And yet the way that the DNC, the way that the Democrats are trying to use this, is to smear the president. And I actually brought this up in the press scaggle today, in that we've asked the victim specifically on whether or not President Trump had hurt them. And he was exonerated. He released the files, and they don't want to purport that. What they want to try to do is take this and have us say on record whether or not we will subpoena the president to come testify. In which I respond, the president is not uh considered a person of interest in this investigation. He's been nothing but cooperative, at least with us and members of the task force. And I think that his record will reflect that he has released all files. Um, it was also interesting to note that we inquired on how many files did President Biden release.

SPEAKER_32 1:33:50

The answer is Yeah, but it'll hurt my friends. What world of treachery, you would say that. Hillary Clinton got asked, what about Gholeen Maxwell being at your daughter's wedding?

SPEAKER_45 1:34:02

And I asked why was Ghole Maxwell's wedding in 2010. You can already be mentioned in a civil lawsuit by Virginia Jupiter before that.

SPEAKER_27 1:34:18

She came as the plus one, the guest of someone who was invited.

SPEAKER_36 1:34:25

And you just happen to know that.

SPEAKER_32 1:34:29

Hillary looks pretty good. I've seen some pictures of her in a couple years past at least.

SPEAKER_36 1:34:33

She definitely had that was better than most.

SPEAKER_32 1:34:37

So this is Hillary Clinton being very declarative.

SPEAKER_27 1:34:39

And we returned to answer questions repetitively, literally, over and over again. I don't know how many times I had to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein. I never went to his island, I never went to his homes, I never went to his offices. Uh so it's on the record numerous times.

SPEAKER_32 1:35:01

Yeah, just like not having sexual relations with that woman. Now, this is Sid Gill. Is that right, Sid Gill? Steve Gill, excuse me. This is Steve Gill. He's a former advisor to the Clinton's. This is one of those guys that was kind of around him all the time. He's a Jake Sullivan of his day, right? He's like always in the center of it. He's they're one of their fixers. And uh he got onto GBN news yesterday and was like, whoa, these guys are lying.

Emails, SAP Material, And DOJ Boundaries

SPEAKER_10 1:35:27

I just wonder if Hillary answered in Bill Clinton voice with the I did not ever make that man, Jeffrey Epstein. Uh the photographs belie her story that she never met him. Uh, the fact that Julene Maxwell was at her daughter's wedding, and her story now is, oh, she was a plus one. Well, who was she the plus one with as the pimp-in-chief for Jeffrey Epstein? Uh, and the alleged 13-year-old girl, uh, her entire testimony was discounted by the FBI after investigation uh because it supposedly happened again when she was 13 or 15 at Hilton Head Island with no evidence whatsoever to back up her claims, and she was determined to be uh really kind of off mentally. So, again, the the left keeps wanting to throw Bill Clinton aside while focusing on Donald Trump. It was Jeffrey Epstein who went to the White House 17 times. Was Hillary always out of town? Uh, Bill and Hillary went to the Zorro Ranch multiple times, and she never met Jeffrey Epstein there. There are pictures of her with Jeffrey Epstein, while she claims both in apparently her sworn testimony and afterwards, she never met the man. So are we supposed to believe our lying eyes or Hillary Clinton?

SPEAKER_32 1:36:37

Now, if you remember, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton were supposed to come in six months ago to testify and they publicly and they said no, and then they didn't show up, and then there was a contempt vote, and then they uh entered into negotiations and they agree to date, but it has to be in private. She made a big deal about I don't know why we didn't do this in the public. You let me get there.

SPEAKER_37 1:36:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_32 1:36:55

Here's an email that was sent to Alan Dershowitz by uh Malia McLaughlin Zimmerman. She goes, I was reading through the files related to the Jeffrey Epstein case, uh, including the original case where you defended Mr. Epstein and saw a letter both you and Gerald, I can't read that name, authored on behalf dated July 6, 2002 or 3. The letter said Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which described as a project of quote, bringing together a community of global leaders, a cabal, to devise, to conspire and implement, to do innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges, like what to do with all the peasants. Focus on the initiative, climate, change, global health, and religious and ethnic conflicts. We got to get rid of all of that.

SPEAKER_36 1:37:46

We were I was talking to my wife last night, and she goes, What is a cabal, anyways? And I go, uh secret combination. She goes, Oh, oh Gadiat and robbers.

SPEAKER_32 1:37:56

Mormons have a different term for it. We call them Gaddy At and robbers. A cabal, right? So that attorney is sending Dershowitz a letter saying, Hey, you guys said this, both of you signed it. We're trying to find the evidence of it. Epstein may or may not have been on the board. I think I have seen that documentation before, maybe not. But either way, it's clear he was part of the dreaming up of this plan, right? Now, uh let's play. Oh, I don't have Hillary Clinton. There was a longer clip where Hillary Clinton asks questions, and one of the things she's saying is she's like, they kept asking. Actually, nope, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to it. So this is James Comer yesterday, basically saying, you know who we really need to talk to? It's Bill Clinton.

SPEAKER_54 1:38:38

Lament uh on that, but uh we're we're gonna not release the too many details of what happened today. We're gonna try to get the video out uh as quickly as possible, hopefully within the next 24 hours. That's a very long deposition. So as quick as we can get that uh video uh produced, we will get that out. The transcript will be released as as soon as her attorneys approve it. That's the standard rules of a deposition. Uh, and I think that uh I think this was a productive deposition today. I think uh we uh we uh learned a lot. Uh there were a lot of questions that we asked that we you know weren't satisfied with the answers that we that we got, but we will continue to move forward. Uh Danny, my colleague, every member of the committee asks questions.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:24

And I would just say one of the things I learned today is if you really have specific questions about the Clinton Global Initiative or the relationship between the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein and Golane Maxwell, you got to ask Bill Clinton.

SPEAKER_54 1:39:37

And that's a great that's a great point. The number of times that uh she said, I don't know, you'll have to ask my husband, was was you know more than a dozen. And I'll I'll I'll put it like that. If I can just hop in.

SPEAKER_51 1:39:49

Um also, too, I think it's important to note that we have been working in a bipartisan fashion to make this as um pain painless as possible for the people that we're bringing, but also to ensuring that there's accountability and transparency. You will hear a lot of spin sometimes out of politicos in Washington. But the fact is that it's our goal and objective following this. And um, we also too did ask for follow-up from the secretary on producing legislation that will help prevent this from ever happening again in the future, obviously working to combat trafficking, which has been in a cause incredibly important, not just to myself, to Chairman Cober, to representative Nancy Mace, but many new members of this oversight committee. And so we are looking forward to continuing to provide that transparency. And Nancy, do you have anything?

SPEAKER_32 1:40:30

Yeah, so ask Bill. Ask Bill. Everything that that cabal of people have been doing, which have been predominantly on the Democrat side of the political aisle, has been a fraud. Everything. Just just so we know the Democrats and their money, it's fake.

Donor Laundering And Vote Discrepancies

SPEAKER_29 1:40:48

Here's Act Blue. FBC data shows that some senior citizens across the U.S. have been donating thousands of times per year. Some of these individuals' names and addresses are attached to over$200,000 in contributions. We went and knocked on a few of their doors to corroborate the data that we received. We're wondering if these donors are victims of what appears to be a money laundering scheme. Cindy No of Annapolis, Maryland, who in the year 2022 allegedly contributed over 1,000 times to Act Blue total That's like three times a day.$18,849.77. That means Cindy would have had to donate three times a day, every day for the whole year. My name's James O'Keefe, and we're doing a story on the number of people that have donated. You did donate to Act Blue, right?

SPEAKER_50 1:41:37

Once in a while.

SPEAKER_29 1:41:38

What about$18,850?

SPEAKER_50 1:41:40

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_29 1:41:42

Do you know if people are using your address?

unknown 1:41:45

I don't think so. Huh?

SPEAKER_32 1:41:47

Huh. Well, their money's fake, and of course, there's you know a two-hour video of that where they go to lots of people's houses. It's like, I don't know if anybody's donating to ActBlue. And then you've got this. What about elections votes? Here's Nevada, and uh this guy's gonna give us numbers going back all the way to 2012.

SPEAKER_43 1:42:04

All right, so please add all this to the uh permanent record according to the NRS. Uh my name is Robert Beatles, Reno Nevada. Now, let's talk about treason. That's right, treason. Math that a kindergartner can understand. All right, so every Democrat, Republican, and independent in this room and in our country has been robbed of their vote by our register of voters. That's right. We went to the register of voters eight days ago on Valentine's Day, and they gave us this disc right here. And these are supposed that we are registered voters, they say, in Washoe County. We have polled the voter rolls three additional times over the past year and a half, two years because we wanted to confirm our findings in this newest data. So this is again spicula's register of voters data on their disc, and here's what it shows. They say in 2020 we had 252,000 voters. However, your data shows that in 2020 he had 212,000. In 2018, 188,000.

SPEAKER_32 1:43:09

He's reading the total list of registered voters versus the number of votes they counted in those elections.

SPEAKER_43 1:43:18

2018, 111,000. 2016, 210,000. 83,000. 2012, 188,000. 54,000. So now this is math. A kindergartner can understand. We got a full stop here, alright? That is 40,000 just in 2020. You can see this right here. Maybe zoom in on that for everybody. That's 40,000 more votes than we had voters in the 2020 election. Didn't we have something like that in Kidsnap County wrong?

SPEAKER_36 1:43:53

Cray, cray. Yeah.

SPEAKER_43 1:43:54

Okay. In 18, we have 77,000. In 16, 126,000. In 2012, 133,000 more votes than voters.

SPEAKER_32 1:44:03

But we have audits built in, and once the machines do it, we compare the numbers of envelopes and poll tabs. Like, this is audit proof. Like they can't cheat this way. You can't have more ballots than registered voters, right? Like some audit process would catch that, right? Right, Ron?

UFO Tic‑Tac Claims And Black Projects

SPEAKER_43 1:44:18

Right? Sure. Every Democrat, Republican, independent in this room has been robbed of their vote. It is that simple. This election system is a fraud and washo. Forget about all the machines, the dead people, the out-of-state people, and all the other fraud, because that's still in there, too. That's right. So it's even worse than this. But again, we had 40,000 more votes than voters. This is treason. Spicula is guilty of gross incompetence at best, treason at worst. She is stolen from everyone in this room and county and country. She must be removed immediately. The four of you now know what's happened to our votes. Is that why the format of the resolution was manipulated by the county and then pulled by the county for being in the wrong format? Are you trying to cover this treason up? Are you gonna bring spicula out here and tell us fairy tales about how great our election system is? Is that your plan? Well, now everybody knows. So we either fire her or lock her up. And I get asked, did Hartongue know about all this fraud? Is that why he refused to chair the resolution? Is that what happened? Well, if so, now everybody knows. And if this isn't addressed immediately, you're all guilty of treason, except Jeannie, because she's the only one of you, it appears, fighting for fair elections. Show us she's not alone. Do the right thing. What's it gonna be? Are you gonna put the resolution back on the agenda and fix this fraud? Are you gonna be treasonous? Thank you. Seems like a pretty simple thing.

SPEAKER_32 1:45:38

You got more votes. You got more one party believes that you win elections by having more ballots, and the other party believes you need more voters. And if you're able to print as many ballots as you need, you don't have to convince a single living person to vote for you. Why would they need 40,000 extra votes in that county? Because they want to elect Democrats, and Democrats are morons, and nobody will vote for them. Oh but when you've made a habit of covering for the Democrats because they're cool, because they're sexually promiscuous, because they're entertaining, progressive, because the coach of the Golden State Warriors told you Trump's bad man, you end up with more nonsense like this coming from Hillary Clinton. See if you can spot the lies, Ron.

SPEAKER_36 1:46:26

There it is.

SPEAKER_32 1:46:28

She's happy.

SPEAKER_27 1:46:38

Uh, based on what I knew.

SPEAKER_32 1:46:40

And what I knew is what I said in my statement. Part of the reason why they delayed their testimony till now was they wanted to get the files out and get them released so they knew what they were going to be asked. But the DOJ held back a big chunk of files between what 2001 and 2000, whatever it was, right? 9-11 time frame. And they also held back an additional three million files to re-review because they were worse uh this morning.

SPEAKER_27 1:47:07

I never met uh Jeffrey Epstein, never had any uh connection or communication with him.

SPEAKER_32 1:47:14

I knew just like you won elections, and just like you guys raised so much money for Act Blue, and yeah, no, everything you guys say and do it just tracks with integrity above board.

SPEAKER_27 1:47:29

But whatever they asked me, I did my very best to respond. Um it was disappointing that they refused to hold uh a public hearing. So I think that would be out here for you.

SPEAKER_32 1:47:45

You could have seen it for yourself. We wanted a public hearing so we could be out here and you guys could see it. Except you guys negotiated a private hearing. And how do I know you negotiated a private hearing? Because you got all hung up about the hearing not being private.

SPEAKER_27 1:47:56

Uh we had asked for that. We think it would have been better for the committee, uh, and its efforts to uh gather whatever information they are seeking. Uh we had uh a bit of a challenge in the beginning because we had agreed upon rules based on the fact it was going to be a closed hearing uh at their uh demand. It was your demand. And one of the members violated uh that rule, which was uh very upsetting because before the hearing started, Lone Bobert took a picture of Hillary Clinton at her testimony table and sent it to Benny Johnson.

SPEAKER_32 1:48:35

So they walked out of the hearing because you broke the rules. I thought you wanted it publicly. I thought you'd be okay with us live streaming.

SPEAKER_27 1:48:43

It suggested that uh they might uh violate other uh of our agreements. So here's the best. Let's see if we can get to the best part here. The allegations in his view about Russia's uh involvement in my election in 2016.

SPEAKER_32 1:49:03

So she still brought up, well, Russians stole the election from me for Trump. She's still riding that horse.

SPEAKER_27 1:49:11

At the very end of this hearing, after I made that point, I want to commend Chairman Comer for raising a series of significant questions.

SPEAKER_32 1:49:24

Now, where's she I don't know exactly where she said it, but she did mention that she got asked about Pizzagate and UFOs. And more concerned this on Chris Wolf's show.

SPEAKER_48 1:49:32

How do we get to the bottom of what's going on by asking Hillary Clinton about UFOs and Pizzagate, Lauren?

Closing Calls, Community Action, And Lounge

SPEAKER_01 1:49:39

Well, uh, you know, those topics did come up, and uh there there are things within the Epstein file that leads to these questions. Um, these files open up a whole mess, a whole trove of questions uh to go down. And uh, you know, Hillary Clinton being connected so tightly with John Podesta, uh, um, who's connected with Anthony Wiener and all of These things they all kind of tie together, especially when you're talking about uh women who are being trafficked. So this isn't to highlight some big vast conspiracy about a pizza parlor, but there I think there needs to be questions, and I asked some questions on this topic uh that should be uh should be explained. There wasn't an explanation given, of course. Um, and then other members certainly asked about UFOs. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_48 1:50:28

And UFOs? Like what did you want to know about UFOs and pizza games?

SPEAKER_01 1:50:33

Everybody about UFOs. I did not ask that question, but I mean there are certainly are uh questions out there, and there were connections within the Epstein files that led to those questions. Um, there are three million files there, you can go a lot of different ways. Uh information that's in there.

SPEAKER_48 1:50:49

You know, if we want people to take this seriously and believe it's not a fishing expedition, it's like somewhere switching.

SPEAKER_32 1:50:56

She was interested herself. I'm sure okay. So, you know, why'd you ask about the UFOs?

SPEAKER_36 1:51:02

Okay, dude, when you have three million documents, this is not a fishing expedition. Come on, Andrew.

SPEAKER_32 1:51:08

So here's the thing about the UFO phenomenon. So you've heard of the tic-tacks, right? Well, tic-tacks spotted over the Nimitz ship that was housed here. So I've actually talked to people who were on the ship when that happened. It was years and years ago. Um, but here you go. This came out yesterday. It was confirmed. The infamous Tic-Tac, UFO spotted and tracked by the 2004 by the USS Nimitz and F-18 fighter pilots, is confirmed to be a Lockhaired Martin craft, CL957 Gen 2. This craft goes the speed of sound practically, changes direction in a blink. Like the the pilots who saw this said it's no aerodynamics, like shouldn't even be in the air. Here's a picture of it. And this is actually the flight manual that was released, Gen 2. It's a Lockheed Martin craft. It was developed in the year 2003 and uses an exotic propulsion system that canceled the effects of inertia and convector gravity. West tasked was test flown in Nevada and Utah test sites, was demonstrated in the Pacific to an unwitting crew of pilots on the USS Nimitz in 2004 to see what our reaction to something like that would be. The craft can operate underwater, in the air, in space, and was developed for quick reaction missions, deep penetrating surveillance missions. I'm not sure I'm buying the this document leaked recently, backing up the claim. Personally, I'm hike skeptical of lots of things with this document. If this technology exists, we are truly living centuries behind where we should be. Patrick Byrne talks about the elites want to create a breakaway civilization. This has been the dream of every king and queen ever. We can just have our breakaway civilization, live behind the walls of the palace, right? Now they're getting to the point with technology where they can do that. They're getting so far ahead of us with their little small groups and their technology. I mean, listen to what we just heard about AI. The way these guys talk about AI, we're over here like it's basically replaced by Google searches. And they're like, uh, it's gonna surveil everybody and kill the whole world. We're like, okay, let's go surfing. I see a big wave coming in. But the revelation that that tic-tac is American technology, if not American, at least human technology, it's likely been reverse engineered. This was confirmed yesterday, and all but totally confirmed by Representative Burleson from Missouri.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:29

I've had two people come to me that say that the Tic Tac is a uh is a Lockheed Martin uh creation. Um the the latest person that came to me says uh he has video uh of the first, second, third iteration of the tic-tac and he's gonna show me. So we're I'm trying to set that up. The way he describes it is that they're you know, they had the prototype, they've they've made changes to it, they've made it more advanced, and then now it's in iteration number three, which he's uh I did see a photo of, and it looks like pretty advanced uh military like craft, like a plane, but it's clearly human-made. Um it's nothing that I've ever seen. You know, our military has. But uh his claim is that they uh they have discovered a propulsion. That's a new type of propulsion. They used it in the first iteration, which was the tic-tac. They have an intermediary one that they've more advanced with, and then now they're putting it inside of what is conventionally, what looks conventional, so that uh it's it's not obvious disguise.

SPEAKER_52 1:54:41

Oh, that's interesting. So you're saying eventually the tech makes its way into things that we're already familiar with.

SPEAKER_32 1:54:46

Well, like cell phones. The idea that we're reverse engineering extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings technology is not new, but to me that's confirmation. They're way ahead of us. You know, we took the military is 30 years ahead of what the standard civilian has. Probably.

SPEAKER_37 1:55:04

Yeah, DARPA.

SPEAKER_32 1:55:05

Probably. I mean, that's pretty conventional wisdom. And apparently they've got anti-gravitational planes. Why am I flying on a jet? Why am I taking six hours to get to New York when I could take 30 seconds?

SPEAKER_36 1:55:17

Because you're a peasant, Taylor.

SPEAKER_32 1:55:19

Oh, I'm a peasant. This tracks, this is why they asked Hillary Clinton, because the Podesta, the WikiLeaks, and the uh the uh Epstein emails all confirm there's an elite cabal of people that engage in very nefarious activities and that they're trying to separate themselves from the unwashed masses. And controlling this type of technology and referencing a future with this type of technology in those plans is what was being asked about and what was being revealed. Interesting times, folks. Okay, we did it. We got it under two hours, Ron. So hope you don't have to rip the video from the upload. And uh we'll talk to you guys again on Monday. This was a great episode. I hope you enjoy it. Please share it. Don't forget to go to leftbehind and without.org and uh check that out. Haven't mentioned that in a long time. But what I wanted to say was go to 1776live.us and register for next week's ignite. See the actual applicable solutions to what we're seeing every day on this podcast. It's us that have to take care of ourselves. How do you be the change you want to see in the world? So join us over there. All right, guys, we'll talk to you again Monday, or actually Liberty Lounge. Liberty Lounge. We are now hosting 1776 Lives, Liberty Lounge on Sunday nights at 5 30 p.m. So if you're available, jump on. It's just an open forum. It's the Liberty Lounge. So we'll talk to you guys again Sunday and then Monday. Bye.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:10

What night lived in that castle over there? I'm 37. What? I'm 37. I'm not old. Well, I can't just call you man. You could say Dennis. I didn't know you were called Dennis. Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind, you're not what I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior. Well, I am king. Oh king. How'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma, which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. There's never going to be any problem. How'd you do? How do you do, good lady? I'm Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that? The Britons. We all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king. No, we're the king. I thought we're an autonomous collective. You're throwing yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class is not. That's what it's all about. Please, good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? No one lives there. Then who is your Lord? We don't have a Lord. What? I told you. We're in a narco-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting. If I think by a civil majority in the case of purely internal affairs, be quiet or by a two-thirds majority in the case of being quiet. I order you to be quiet. Order you to be king. I'm your king. The lady of the lake. Her armed clad in the purest shimmering samite held a lost excaliber from the bottom of the water. Signifying by divine providence that I asked was to carry excaliber. That is why I'm your king. Listen, strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some classical aquatic ceremony. But you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some water is tart for a sword. I mean round saying I was an emperor. Just because some moistened bitch had lost a scimitar at me, they put me away. Shut up, will you shut up? Now we see the violence inherited in the system. Shut up! Now we see the violence inheriting the system! Help, help! I'm being repressed! Oh what a giveaway! Do you hear that? Do you hear that? I'm on about. Do you see it repressing me? You saw it, did you?