Nazi Tattoos, Burned Ballots, And A Utility Bill

If you’ve ever looked at a headline and thought, “How would I even know if this is real?”, we’re right there with you. We kick the morning off with politics and outrage bait, then dig into a messy Maine Senate storyline that raises a bigger problem than any one candidate: the standards for “disqualifying” behavior keep moving, and the public is being trained to argue about scandal instead of verifying facts.

From there, we get personal about digital exhaust and why modern life makes all of us easier to frame, impersonate, or misrepresent. Data broker databases, major breaches, public records, and archive tools can rebuild a profile in minutes, which is great for investigators and terrible for regular people. We talk through what that means for cybersecurity, identity theft, and even courtroom “evidence” when sourcing and verification get sloppy or partisan.

Then we zoom out into policy that hits your wallet: taxing the rich, government efficiency, debt interest, union roots, and why manufacturing and supply chains matter for national security. We connect election integrity lawsuits and real-world ballot incidents to public confidence, and we tie Washington State’s climate compliance costs to utility hikes and the weird logic of subsidy programs. We close with the collision of AI energy demand, Bitcoin mining, and the Clarity Act fight over stablecoins and interest, plus why banks are nervous about a new financial rail.

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Transcript

Morning Banter And Simultaneous Sip

SPEAKER_30 0:06

And when they went for the clean the trial with a complex every time we screw them, we're getting screwed.

SPEAKER_14 0:26

The revolution's gonna be casting for sure. It's the little guys, it's a little guy that takes the everyday peasants, man. We're just peasants. Every one of us. You watch those old movies, you see the peasants in the background with the kings and kings walking around. We're those people. We're those people. Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of the peasants' perspective. It's the start of a new month, and we need to pip for our 20 chatters already. We got a handful in the chats already for Razor, first of the month. Great morning in Boise. Let's see Carlito and Tiffany off YouTube. Good morning, y'all. Pony Boy, good morning. Pray the rosary daily. Good morning. Glad you guys made it. Carlites, good morning, good morning, good morning. What a great Monday morning. Do you feel like the weekend just kind of flew by?

SPEAKER_17 1:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:24

I feel like that every weekend. I feel like we're going on six months of just one continuous week. It's been awesome. All right, Doug Wyatt, good to see you. Bright and early in the chats. So fun. Coming from the East Coast, Maryland area. All right. I know why you guys join in bright and early on Monday mornings. You're here for the simultaneous sip. And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tack or a chalice of stein, a canteen, jug, or flask, a vessel of any kind, and fill it with your favorite liquid. I like cold coffee at this point this morning. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. And it starts right now.

Trump, TDS, And A Gender Trap

SPEAKER_19 2:04

And I gotta be honest, Sean, that first clip you played about Donald Trump where he says, I'm gonna do the opposite with TDS. This man knows how to set traps for Democrats to walk in. And my God, I wish he would do this one. He needs to come out tomorrow and say, I'm a female. He needs to say I'm the first female president. And the TDS lunatics are gonna say, you can't be a female, and Donald Trump's gonna say, Yes, I can. You told me I can change my gender. And they're going to expose the absurdity of their transgender ideology because their TDS is so strong that their reflex is gonna say, oppose, oppose, oppose.

SPEAKER_14 2:39

He should totally do that. He should try to go on the record as the first female president. Just be done with it. Just be done with it. Marty Easel says, good morning from my warm bed. Oh, I'm glad you're sleeping in.

Maine Senate Race And Candidate Scandals

SPEAKER_14 2:50

Okay, so up in Maine, we've got this really interesting race between Susan Collins, who's a total rhino, right? Like Susan Collins, you can't count on her vote for hardly anything. She vote, I think she, I, if I remember right, she voted for Justin Cat Justice Kavanaugh, but it was only after a very vicious letter or constituent accosted her, and she thought, this just can't be the way the Senate operates. We should be able to make our decisions in a vacuum without outside pressure. So she ended up voting for Justice Kavanaugh. Not because he was a better candidate, but because she didn't want to cave to the protesters, which I mean, I guess we got Kavanaugh in, whatever, right? But she's not been exactly a stalwart uh supporter of MAGA and Donald Trump. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, she might even be one of those really waffly pro-choice Republicans coming from Maine. Right. So now here's the problem with Maine. There's no one else running against her other than the Democrat candidate. So it's we're past, I don't know if we're past the primary, but we're past the point where you're gonna get a quality Republican candidate running against her. I mean, who are you gonna get up in Maine? Tucker.

SPEAKER_17 3:58

What's the population of Maine, anyways?

SPEAKER_14 4:00

It's not big. Right. It's not big. And I'm sure there's someone better in the state, but there's no one better that's running. Okay. So she's running up against this guy named Plattner. Now, I think his name is Graham Plattner. Yep. Graham Pratner. Now, his background, if I'm not mistaken, and again, you know, I don't follow the Democrats super closely, but if I'm not mistaken, he's former military. Okay. Um, he's got a lot of videos of him, you know, doing in a drunken bar scenes with the shirt off. He's got a nice big Nazi tattoo on his chest. So unlike Donald Trump, who just said there were fine people on both sides, but the neo-Nazis need to be condemned totally. This guy actually has a neo-Nazi tattoo on his chest. Now, having been someone who's met a few people with Nazi tattoos in prison, these aren't the most uncommon things out there. But nonetheless, as a Democrat, he has that. So you'd think, based on the fact that Democrats are completely opposed to white supremacy, that would be a disqualifier. Do you think it's a disqualifier for the Democrats when it's their candidate with the Nazi tattoo?

SPEAKER_17 5:03

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_14 5:04

Not even a bit.

SPEAKER_17 5:05

I mean, if as long as you got some ink, it doesn't matter what it's yeah.

SPEAKER_14 5:10

Now, this guy has also said a whole lot of incendiary racial things online, and all of those posts have been made public, and he's taken a lot of heat for it. He's taken a lot of heat for the tattoo, and he's taken a lot of heat for his incendiary racial Nazi-like posts online. In fact, so bad that uh see, what's his name here? Marie Hassan, Marie Hassan, Marie Hassan, who is very anti-Semitic generally speaking, okay? Had an interview with him, and he's like, hey, so this is the worst, right? Like the stuff that's come out, it's it's as bad as it gets, right? Right?

SPEAKER_13 5:46

Is there other stuff out there that's gonna come out now, between now and November? Is there another chat forum we don't know about, another tattoo we haven't seen?

unknown 5:55

No.

SPEAKER_11 5:55

The uh everybody's seen my tattoos now, and uh everybody's read all my internet. We put it all in October. Time will tell. Time will tell. And and the Republican Party is absolutely going to die. You know, at some point that's coming. They you know said they swift voted John Kerry, they said rocky.

SPEAKER_14 6:16

Except John Kerry really wasn't in Vietnam.

SPEAKER_11 6:20

Wasn't in America. So like when it comes to the Republican Party, God only knows what they're gonna come up with. Uh that isn't true. They just ran an AI generated. Ridiculous. So like they're the dirty tricks, that's all gonna happen.

SPEAKER_14 6:35

Okay, so everything that happens is just a dirty trick at this point. Deplorable D says, good morning, patriots. So glad to have you here this morning.

SPEAKER_17 6:43

I kind of liked his banner on the wall. Did you read that? What did it say? I missed it. And Illuminati warfare or welfare. Like, yes.

SPEAKER_14 6:53

I love these guys so much. So Mark Thiessen on Fox News is like Susan Collins for how rhino she is. Okay, she's so rhino that no MAGA is gonna get out of bed to vote for her. Okay. However, they might get out of bed to vote against this Graham Plattner. And so you couldn't have picked a better opponent for Susan Collins than Graham Platner, right? If you've got to motivate MAGA to get out of bed, you weren't gonna get it with Susan, okay? But with Graham, you're gonna get them motivated to vote against this.

SPEAKER_09 7:25

I do know that Susan Collins tends to lose polls and win elections. Okay. Uh so uh I don't I don't think that this is uh dangerous for her. But think about this. His wife is disappointed, not in her husband sexting women, but she's disappointed in us for caring about it, right? And she's disappointed in people for exposing it for the voters to see. That's what she's disappointed in. I mean, that tells you a lot. I think it's great news for Susan Collins in that she couldn't have picked a better opponent, a guy, uh, you know, a sexual deviant cheating sleaze ball with a Nazi tattoo is probably who you want to run against. But I think you're right, Tommy, which is that things that used to be obviously disqualifying are no longer obviously disqualifying. You just look at Jay Jones in Virginia running for attorney, attorney general, chief law enforcement officer, who was threatening his fellow legislators and the legislators saying he wanted one uh woman's children to die in their mother's arms. And he won, not just one, he went decisively 5347, and the winning margin came from suburban women. I mean, if that is not if Jay Jones can win an election in Virginia with suburban women after what he did, then you know, I guess Platiner can do or say anything or tattoo anything he wants on his body and be fine.

SPEAKER_14 8:35

That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. Now, obviously, I've I've long opined that part of the reason why these candidates that would otherwise be disqualified right from the offset even get a chance at running is because the system, the voting structure itself, the system of voting itself is so corrupted that there are these loose votes out there, loose ballots. These are the dead people that are still registered, people that have moved out, illegal immigrants that have registered, right? Homeless people that have registered, this universe of loose ballots allow for both ballot manipulation and ballot harvesting and machine fraud. It opens the door to both of those things. So, how someone like Graham gets a foothold, I mean, do you really believe 50% plus one of the electorate is so TDS infected that they would vote for the guy with the neo-Nazi tattoos, the sex chatting background and the racial texting background? You're you're you're you're you're you're over there, you can't see Ron. He's not on camera, but Ron's over there like, no, you wouldn't think that that would be a real possibility, right? Exactly. The types of candidates that the republic that the Democrats have run, the last four or five election cycles, when you go through the whole slate of them across the country, you find some absolute cuckoos out there. I don't know that you see the same thing on the Republican side side. I mean, you do see occasionally one that slips through the cracks, like the lieutenant governor from South Carolina or North Carolina, can't remember, but he was, you know, a black man. He he was in office, and then when he was running for governor in the primary, a whole bunch of his old chat room messages came out and kind of derailed his camp campaign. So these chat room messages came from a chat room chat plat called K-I-K KIC. Okay, and it's and it's it's known for being not the best place, okay. It's just known for being not the best place, and the messages that came out from this forum were pretty sketchy, okay? Like, like clearly sketchy. He got asked, this is he and his wife, he got asked about this, and his attitude is just like, well, we do what we want to do.

SPEAKER_11 10:51

What would your statement be at this point? It's it's no surprise to me that the established media outlets are just gonna run gossip instead of wanting to talk about the things that actually matter in this race, which are the reac the material realities that make commanders worse. These people are gonna try to make this race about anything but what it's supposed to be about, which is policy. They never want to talk about policy. Amy and I have a very loving and very happy marriage. Uh, they would very much like to try to rip that apart. They're gonna come after us in every awful way that they possibly can. And we're just gonna keep talking about the fact that the hospitals are closing, the fact that childcare facilities are closing, the fact that teachers and nurses aren't paid enough, and the fact that everybody down here continues to work harder and longer and get less. But of course, the powers that be do not want us to talk about that. And so they're gonna just do gossip instead.

SPEAKER_22 11:45

But stories are true, right?

SPEAKER_11 11:48

No. No, this is um this is the amazing part. The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, ran stories without any evidence besides the gossip from a former staff. I'm sorry, that's uh that's frankly journalistic malpractice. We pushed back on it, they won it, they did it anyways.

SPEAKER_12 12:06

So I'm sorry, that messages did not exist.

SPEAKER_11 12:11

What's that? Uh uh the messages they did not unconferted that what Genevieve McDonald said in the New York Times is not true.

SPEAKER_10 12:19

So you never met with her about uncomfortable, for lack of a better word, sexting messages as the campaign was going?

SPEAKER_11 12:25

We talked about things in Amy and I's marriage that we've gone through over the years. We talked about that because that's our marriage, and we discussed it with the campaign. What Genevieve McDonald claims isn't true.

SPEAKER_14 12:38

So it's the nuance picking apart the nuance.

SPEAKER_17 12:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 12:43

Right? So here's the thing even CNN is forced to admit this guy's campaign has kind of totally started to do real. Now, this is a Republican consultant talking on CNN, but nonetheless, even CNN is admitting this guy's lying to people.

SPEAKER_29 12:58

I think it's a simple question. This guy is very controversial, and it's a question about judgment and character. Uh, just a week ago, uh Jessica Armanuraju, the New York Times, asked Mr. Platiner directly, is there anything else that we should expect? Anything else that the voters of Maine should expect? And he frankly said, no. This is it, this is all behind me. I'm focused on uh winning, I'm focused on my campaign message, I'm focused on representing uh the Democratic voters of the state of Maine. And here we are a week later, he lied. And so that the next question becomes what else will come out of this? 12 ladies, will any of those ladies decide to give interviews? I feel sorry for his wife. She did not ask for this. Uh, it is unfortunate and it is unfair to her. I will acknowledge that. But he is running for U.S. Senate. Susan Collins is the type of Republican that Democrats say they want. She's independent-minded, she doesn't always vote with the party, as you all know. We've talked about this on our network. She's tried, she is true, versus someone who continuously, week after week, says there isn't anything else. And sure enough, there's another rabbit hole we find ourselves debating about. I don't think you can trust Grant Plattenner, and I think most of the voters of Maine will find that out over the next couple of weeks and months.

SPEAKER_14 14:06

Yeah, it's pretty rough for Grant Platner. Now, the thing that's interesting about this is there's this, remember, we talk about plausible believability, right? There's this plausible believability element. Deplorable D says teachers are paid plenty considering what they are teaching. She's referring to what Graham Platner said.

SPEAKER_17 14:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 14:23

Which we're gonna talk about socialism and teachers getting paid and taxing the richer and just well, I did I did take note of that.

SPEAKER_17 14:29

Was like, teachers and nurses aren't getting paid enough. It's like, okay, there you go, pay to play. It's uh you're buying votes right there.

SPEAKER_14 14:35

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You're buying your constituency. So here's the thing.

Digital Evidence, Wayback Machine Fears

SPEAKER_14 14:40

I I having been through a trial where I believed that they put up fake information in my trial, they put up a vanity name from X or from Twitter at the time. It was at peasant pod underscore. Now I've never used an underscore in any vanity name or any email ever that I can ever remember. I've just never used one.

SPEAKER_17 15:03

It's just it's Taylor's just anti- underscore.

SPEAKER_14 15:06

Anti- underscore. I just haven't used underscores. Okay. And all of the stuff that they were presenting in trial, they got from my social social media subpoenas. So the subpoena, Twitter, Facebook, Parlor, and whatever else. And they provided all the bulk metadata back to the DOJ. And then, and so in the trial, you know, how did you acquire this information? We got it from the subpoena return. We got it from going through his phone, right? There were there was a source of the where this information came. So they weren't just flashing up a tweet on the screen. How did you get that tweet? How did you confirm that he liked it or that he wrote it? That kind of thing. Well, there was one, a couple of tweets that came from an account that the FBI agent got from the quote Wayback Machine.

SPEAKER_17 15:50

And they attributed it to you.

SPEAKER_14 15:52

Yes, which means they didn't get it from a subpoena return. They didn't get it from my cell phone data.

SPEAKER_17 15:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 15:58

They didn't get it from any online iCloud research that they did. They got it.

SPEAKER_17 16:03

Where'd they get it?

SPEAKER_14 16:04

Just open source Wayback Machine. Okay. They got this tweet. And I can't remember exactly which post they put up, but they were damning posts. Like, you know, did I write that? You know, like I'm looking at them, I'm like, I could have written that. Like, it's not like outside the realm of believability, but I objected. I was like, I don't think that that's my account, but I wasn't in a position like at that point, you're supposed to object during discovery. I didn't catch it during discovery. You know, I get these, I get these links to files with millions of pages in them. How am I supposed to find you know, on page 987, the Wayback Machine returns? Okay. But what it did teach me going through that experience, one of the lingering things I have is I have PTSD when it comes to my digital exhaust, right? All the different accounts you have. If you have an iPhone, go through your passwords, like you go into your passwords and look at all the hacks. Because every time one of those sites that you have a password on gets hacked or has a data breach, somehow it links back into iPhone and it will tell you, hey, this website has had a data breach. And you know, if you're like me, you possibly in the beginning, when you know you thought your passwords were secure, you reused passwords. I don't do that anymore, right? But you can go and you can look that like all of your data has been compromised. Well, all of that data, when you get these big database hacks and these email servers or these, you know, companies that do customer information gathering, a lot of that information gets put on these um I databases online. They're not dark web, they just become open source intelligence. Private investigators, commercial companies, anybody can go in there and they can purchase this data or they can purchase a subscription to the data. And then what starts to happen is they can find things about you. So I'm gonna play this little clip here from Tucker Carlson's podcast. This is from a little while ago, and they had a dark web hacker. He had a dark web hacker on his show. And in 20 minutes, he grabbed Tucker Carlson's digital life, grabbed his actual signature. Apparently, Tucker Carlson's not his real name. It's not his legal name for legal documents. Grabbed his actual signature, found out about vehicles that he had, right? All in a matter of 20 minutes. And this is something that became uh I became very conscientious of. It's the government's ability to create digital exhaust for you that's not actually yours. And you see this process peak up when you see, for example, Cheryl Akin's husband who had child pornography planted on his computer, right? What kind of digital exhaust are they trying to create? What kind of what kind of uh online avatar are they trying to create by infusing your computer systems and your passwords and your profiles? And you know, if you've got some email that you've used that's linked to another email that's linked to another email, and then they find out your passwords and they can get in, and then they can create some chat uh account, and then they can set some bot to that chat account. And next thing you know, you have a whole chat profile that isn't really yours.

SPEAKER_16 19:12

Well, I'm totally safe. You can't drain my bank account.

SPEAKER_25 19:16

Well, let me show you something. You might not be able to drain drain your bank account, but here is your signature from your warranty deed.

SPEAKER_16 19:27

So having your how do you have that? That is my actual signature. Yeah, yeah, I'm aware. Which is not my name, so I don't know how you would have that.

SPEAKER_25 19:35

Oh, I pulled it from public record.

SPEAKER_16 19:37

It is crazy.

SPEAKER_25 19:39

Yep, so if I use your social, I have your you know general location. I I know you use a P.O. box to buy, you know, buy everything I found behind you know, I found behind the P.O. box. Um, I saw your your motorcycle transaction that you made. I have the old plate and the new plate with the Harley. Um I found as much as I could in the 20s.

SPEAKER_16 19:59

You found my Harley. Yeah. So that's something I talk about. That's so funny. Wow. Okay. But the my point here is the new six speeds are amazing. Can I just say that like four speeds? I love motorcycles. I do too. I secretly do, very secretly.

SPEAKER_25 20:14

So the national public data uh uh breach was ridiculous, to be honest with you. Um, it was 2.8 billion records about a year and a half ago, roughly. And a Florida sheriff ran a data broker website, which had uh, you know, just you can look up somebody's name, similar to White Pages. But for whatever reason, this Florida sheriff got access to all of this data and was using it to, you know, I'm I'm assuming sell data, make money on it. Well, he decided to reuse credentials for so listen to this.

SPEAKER_14 20:45

A Florida sheriff was using all of the government available search data. He was passing it through to a website that he owned and was selling subscriptions to.

SPEAKER_25 20:58

Good scam.

SPEAKER_14 20:59

Then he double uses credentials.

SPEAKER_25 21:01

Uh a demo project or old project on his main production system, which allowed 2.8 billion records to be exposed. With, you know, we know there's about 300 million Americans. So if there's 2.8 billion records in this database, um, there's a good chance that you're in it with your social security number. And you're in there about, I think, 15 times if you look at that document, uh, with everywhere you've ever lived, um, you know, including anyone associated, etc. Um, so and this is all publicly available now? It's publicly available. And and what we did was because since since, like I said, I could, you know, maybe you have all your assets in gold, let's say. Like I have the ability to call your electric company and pretend that I'm you. And what do I not have about you that to confirm that I'm you? Um, you know, that or if I want to open up a credit card or if I want to buy a Harley, or you know, there's not much that's stopping me.

SPEAKER_14 21:51

So when I was in prison, I was in prison with a guy who was there for identity theft. Is is the sound weird? Did you make any adjustments to the sound? The sound is little weird. Why why is it weird like that? I feel like I have to get really close to the microphone. Usually I'm like trying to stay away from it. Touch something. Try that. Try that. Oh that's a little that's a little hotter. Okay. So when I was in prison, I was in prison with a guy that was there that he wasn't there this time for identity theft, but his first time through the prison system, he was there for identity theft. And what he would do is he would just pretty standard, he'd steal credit cards. Okay. He'd steal credit cards or he would go online and he would purchase people's information and he would apply for credit cards. Now he was pretty smart about this when he would steal people's credit cards and or apply for them. This was a long running game that he played over the course of years. Okay. He would get your credit information and he would call up and he would get was it is it credit lock is that what the program's called I don't know. It's uh it's you hear like Glenn Beck advertisement it's credit lock or ID lock or life lock. That's what it is Lifelock. So he'd get a light he'd open up a lifelog account for you. So this allowed him to monitor your credit. So he would get all these credit cards, max them out and then when he was totally maxed out and he never made any payments he'd max these out pretty things pretty quick then he would call up LifeLock and he would lock your credit and tell you that these credit cards had been stolen and it was fraudulent and then he'd burn that email account and burn whatever he created but he'd create an entire profile email account burner cell phone number he'd use your social all stuff he got off the web to create credit. Okay and he ended up creating in about two years about $250,000 worth of credit that he was able to abscond with from other people. And he didn't get caught until some old lady some old lady wanted to see it through to the end and ended up filing a police report and then they ended up subpoenaing the phone calls between him and lifelog and that's when they proved it wasn't her. When the phone call came back and he's like hi this is Susan something and they're like it's not her voice right that's what finally got got them to continue through the prosecution of her are you still playing around with the sound there? Yeah it sounds horrible yeah we don't we just we just can't play with anything anytime we want to adjust anything we touch it and it changes all the sound anyways that is something that I've been man that is horrible Ron I know what did we how was it before there that is that better? Yeah all right well in the chats if the sound is driving you crazy just let us know then we'll keep playing with it. Markin good morning glad you made it so anyways that is something that I'm I'm constantly conscientious of with these politicians. So even with Graham Plattner you have to kind of there there's this plausible believability that this could just be a hit job right and we have to be conscientious of that all the time and that's one of the reasons why these stories come up and we kind of have to just see how the reaction is if Graham is just like it didn't happen it's no big deal it's AI and he just kind of moves forward with his life you kind of have to sit there and go, how is that not on the pot the table of possibilities? Does that make sense? Yeah it how is that not on the table of possibilities? We're gonna see that more and more I think as campaigns get tighter and tighter and you know both both parties run ridiculous candidates they're gonna try to make the other candidate look more ridiculous with some other over the top scandal and we the people have just no way to verify if this stuff is legitimate

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SPEAKER_14 25:27

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Taxing The Rich And Socialist Promises

SPEAKER_17 26:30

is great.

SPEAKER_14 26:30

All right one of the other things Graham Plattner said in his uh interview was that they don't want to debate the issues they don't want to debate the policies the policies now the interesting thing about that is as conservatives we're like that's all we want to debate is the issues you're the one who made this dirty mudslinging campaign right we want to debate the issues we think our ideas can win. But of course you know the platiners of the world are always going to be like no you don't no we do. Here's an example of Bernie Sanders who is responding to the Jeff Bezos interview that was on a CNBC and this is the one where Jeff Bezos talked about you know I'm not that rich billionaires don't become billionaires overnight. Go sell some chicken you'll see everybody loves your chicken and you can become a billionaire you're selling a lot of chicken right like like there's something you don't just become a billionaire because you're smart you become a billionaire because you do things things are happening under your businesses or whatever the case is well Bernie Sander and he talked about in that interview as well that if you tax the rich they're just gonna leave and then they're gonna take their businesses with you and now your tax base shrinks. Well Bernie Sanders has some responses to that Ron let's talk about the issues I promise you Jeff that you're dead wrong.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

I pay billions of dollars in taxes and it's a permanent again if people want me to pay more billions right then let's have that debate but don't pretend you know that this that that's going to solve the problem you could you could double the taxes I pay and it's not gonna help that teacher in Queens I promise I promise you Jeff that you're dead wrong of course it will help that teacher in Queens and you know it's interesting as you know you may know in California now there's an effort to have a billionaire's tax yes and Bezos is let's have that debate right you know what they're doing in California you know what they're doing in New York when Mundani wants to raise taxes on the rich you know what they do in response to the wealth tax that I have introduced here in Washington they're not having that debate as to whether or not billionaires should pay their fair share as opposed to people losing their health care or children going hungry.

SPEAKER_21 28:35

What they are saying is you raise my taxes in California you know what I'm doing what am I doing? I'm leaving I'm leaving the state yeah and I'm gonna shut down my company and you're gonna be unemployed that's the debate that's not a debate that is my power over you that is extortion that is blackmail heads I win tails you lose you can't beat me. So Bezos says let's have that debate exactly right let's have that debate tell me Mr. Bezos why you think you are worth many many hundreds of billions of dollars while you pay your workers at Amazon starvation wages tell me why you think you have the right to automate factories all over America and the world and throw millions of people out of work what gives you unilaterally that right let's have that debate Mr.

SPEAKER_14 29:28

Bezos all right so let's talk about it. Okay let's have the debate so rich guy says hey you keep wanting to raise my taxes to fix all these social problems the problem is I know how much I'm paying in taxes and as a business owner I know how I know how far that money can go right I know what I can do with that money and I'm giving it to you Mr. Government to deal with homelessness to deal with potholes to deal with human excrement on the sidewalks etc etc when said results don't happen and said check has been cut what would that what would that lead the rich man to assume? The money's being wasted it's not going where they say it's going to go right so outside of an actual tax conversation where we realize none of your tax money goes to fill in potholes or social services it all simply just goes to pay for the interest on the debt which means all these things that they're paying for retroactively have already been prepaid. That's one of the other dirty little secrets about the tax system. So when we have to raise the the the the the uh tax rate on the rich that's because we can't make our minimum payment on the credit card anymore right so we've got to raise the tax rate on the rich and the rich guy's going listen you already had the money because I'm only paying the interest right so you've already had the money and you haven't fixed homelessness. It's gotten worse you haven't fixed XYZ problem healthcare is more expensive. All these things are more expensive. So there's one thing right so the rich man would look and he would go you're not efficiently spending the money well and also he's like I don't think I want to give you more money because um the money that you have spent was spent inefficiently I'm sorry my brain yeah it's spent inefficiently it's not effective it's not getting anything done all right now what if you're a poor person and you're like hey these services aren't working for me right like there's still a homeless encampment outside my house my healthcare is still super expensive I still have to drive through a whole bunch of potholes every day to get to work. Right. So you've got all the same problems.

SPEAKER_17 31:29

So oh now now I remember what I was going to say I'm only paying the interest if I pay the interest you're gonna use that new position to ask for more taxes to expand the program instead of just pay down the debt like you should as a responsible you know party of this so you've got states like Washington where former governor Gregwire when she had a $33 billion budget she was like we're running out of money.

SPEAKER_14 31:57

Now we have an $80 million billion budget and they're running out of money. So clearly we don't have a budget problem because we've expanded the budget $50 million billion dollars in the last 10 years and yet we still can't fill in the same potholes we still can't clean up the same homeless encampments. In fact they've gotten bigger we still can't you know what I'm saying like it's I I I think I think when you're just asking me to constantly pay and you're never actually performing right government who's supposed to perform the cleaning up of the streets or the law and order or whatever it is at some point there's no bargain there anymore. Right? So there's no bargain. What if you're a poor person you can continue to blame the rich and then of course when the rich leave and they take your jobs that's an easy scapegoat but who's the real problem here in both situations?

SPEAKER_17 32:44

The government.

SPEAKER_14 32:45

The government the government right we talked about this on Saturday in our episode with Gary if you go ask people like nine out of 10 people will tell you yeah government's not the best way to get this stuff done. The socialist however feels like they're the only legitimate way to get it done. The conservative can think of a dozen other ways to get it done right but usually isn't compelling as to why we shouldn't use government because government should be transparent government should be able to allocate this money appropriately I mean all those government employees get paid what the what incentive do they have to steal from this extra money that's being spent well Spencer Pratt was on with Bill Mar Bill Mayer and he talked about this exact problem how rich people you can keep taxing them but at the end of the day if the results don't happen neither the people or the rich are going to be happy.

SPEAKER_23 33:38

I feel like people are all hyped on socialism because they're like everything's so expensive America's failed give me money but what they're forgetting is all the people that these socialists are saying they're taking the money and giving they're gonna leave and then they're not gonna have any money to take from these people to give to you. I keep telling people the way we get you money is stopping the socialism letting that successful rich people build businesses, build restaurants, put money into your pocket because there's more jobs there's more opportunity that's how we actually get you more money to lie to you and tell you we're gonna tax these rich people we already tax so much in LA in California I can't even comprehend taxing more what's happening is we tax these people and then other rich people the champagne socialist scammers steal that money because they're all connected to the people taxing and then the people that should see the money the communities the after the boys and girls clubs the parks the the actual infrastructure doesn't see that money because different rich people stole the money that was being taxed from the rich people so I actually feel like Robinhood because I'm coming in and I'm gonna say where's all this money we're done with everyone stealing the tax money we're gonna actually put it to the people that have turned us socialism because they say America doesn't work it doesn't work if we let people steal all the tax money exactly I think where socialism really got a foothold in the Democrat Party aside from going back to the more nefarious the like you know Marxists and stuff like that the blue dog democrats these are your union democrats right they understand the value of their labor and they recognize that through collective bargaining they can get more for their labor than if they're just individuals out there that can be taken advantage of by the big corporation.

SPEAKER_14 35:28

It's natural unions have a huge place in the American workforce because the more you specialize the more you need to unionize right when you have a special niche like if you're some factory worker making chain link you you know your skills aren't necessarily going to move over into coding very quickly okay so so the more you specialize the more you need to unionize and the unions have that we the people attitude right because you're in it you're in it for your brothers your fellow labor uh brethren right but unfortunately because there's that easy jump from unions to collectivism right because they're they they kind of have a similar feel to it a lot of Democrats have been sucked into that that pro socialist mentality when really they just want a right to work and they want a right to bargain their labor. Well if the factory just closes down the union can't keep them open. Right who are they bargaining with exactly the whole point of the union was you couldn't leave you couldn't go somewhere that was cheap enough. If you had a factory in Ohio by the time you relocated to Kentucky you may as well pay your laborers that extra dollar an hour that they want and save yourself the hundred million dollars to move your factory right see what I'm saying but when you calculate things and this is why on policy we have to have this debate and as conservatives we can win this debate. We don't have to take the old Republican line the free trade line which did away with you know a lot of our American factories that was the Republican line free trade is better. All right well listen in the marketplace of ideas if the world isn't operating under free labor agreements you're not you're not you don't really have free trade. So we became completely pacified with this idea that if goods and services were cheap it didn't matter where they were made and then that's what leads to a lot of people whose frankly IQ is enough to work in a factory but it's not enough to go be a coder you know what I'm saying they get left out they get left out in the cold which is why we've had this huge brain drain. Scott Besson addressed this and how the Trump administration is addressing this exact problem. Again the socialists they don't want to actually talk about the issues because the problem is always going to point back to who? The government. Yep sure you can steal from the rich you've been doing that for 30 years but it's not making it down to the poor it's rich people stealing from the other rich people. Does that make sense? And so what happens is we all get left out in the cold the Trump administration is doing a lot to change this.

SPEAKER_06 38:00

The truth is that for too long America had been asleep. We mistook comfort for strength we substituted efficiency for resilience and consumption as a measure of prosperity we told ourselves that so long as goods were cheaper overseas it did not matter whether factories went dark in Michigan, Ohio or Pennsylvania we assumed that supply chains would always function smoothly and adversaries would always behave responsibly and the invisible hand would correct vulnerabilities that too few in public life had the courage to confront.

SPEAKER_14 38:42

And while we reassured ourselves with those assumptions risk accumulated all around us somewhere along the way we lost sight of a foundational principle that previous generations understood instinctively economic security is national security for a nation that cannot manufacture mine ship or refine its needs gradually cedes its strength and sovereignty to others that is a dangerous dependency for any country is an unacceptable one for the United States of America the truth is that socialist attitude that was brought about by the Marxists and specifically the Trotskyites he was very international socialism communism is not going to work so the whole world's on it right they were robbing from the rich the United States to give to the poor South Africa Zimbabwe Ghana whatever you name the third world country so that was happening on the big scale and then on a small scale because that attitude of we have to take from the rich and give to the poor it was easy to suck in the blue dog Democrats into that mentality for a generation but that generation has now seen their factories close they've now seen their neighborhoods become dilapidated. I mean Detroit is a shell of what it once was used to be a powerhouse city in the nation now it's a forgotten city right wasn't it ranked like the number one city in the world at one point at one point yeah I mean it was huge powerhouse you would never guess that today the blue dog democrats are no longer like if you're in Detroit and you're going yeah we should tax the rich people it's like which rich people I mean how much are you going to really stick the Fords for? I mean you're down to a couple corporations and at some point they'll leave too they're not even building stuff in Detroit anymore. They just have their headquarters there at this point right it becomes a huge problem but if a nation can do its own mining can do its own logging can do its own energy production that's a lot of jobs. That's a lot of jobs that will help a lot right so if you get down to the core of these issues you recognize what people really don't want is a handout they want an opportunity right but it's without the opportunity the handout's what you're gonna take and a lot of these socialists they specialize in making sure that you can't have an opportunity you can only have a handout and that's what's happening more and more. So taxing the rich it ain't gonna work forever. Now I've been a huge believer that if we could fix these elections and we can flush a lot of this bad policy out right all of a sudden you might actually lose an election if you have a bad candidate instead of being able to gaslight us into believing that they're a quality candidate.

Election Integrity Lawsuits And Burned Ballots

SPEAKER_14 41:25

I noticed Graham Plattner is doing the uh the uh I can't believe Betterman role you know wearing t-shirts and sweaters jeans to get a every man he's a worker man yeah I think it's cool I think it's great all right for RNC election integrity update this is a big deal the RNC is now engaged in a hundred and fifty election integrity lawsuits across 34 states this year we're on track to wage the most litigation in RNC history to secure the ballot box protect the vote now unlike previous years the RNC has money they have money a hundred thousand dollars more money than the DNC to my knowledge that's the first time in my life that I have ever seen a gap like that I've seen a hundred thousand money usually the Democrats come up with more money but the fact that they're technically in the hole right now is kind of a big deal I think you meant more than a hundred thousand what do you mean hundred thousand you said that's that's how much money they got the DNC the RNC they have a hundred million I know you said a hundred thousand oh I said a hundred hundred million they have hundreds of like so much money yeah they have hundreds of thousands of thousands you know they got hundreds uh over over 130 million dollars I think big big time number now when it comes to the the elections there's still shenanigans guess what happened over the weekend so this week is the primary in California between the three mayor rural candidates in LA and in LA my mail ballots were found burned inside a ballot box in Los Angeles just two days before the California primaries election officials discovered the damaged ballots and they filed a report with the police department they say a separate voting center was also vandalized investigators are looking into both incidents and are working to identify any voters who have been affected okay so a voting box was vandalized was caught on fire so all the ballots inside went up and a separate voting center was vandalized.

SPEAKER_17 43:24

Who's doing the vandalizing oh I don't know but Taylor I love your smile because you know that this is just grasping at straws.

SPEAKER_14 43:32

These guys are desperate that's what I I guess we'll see how the story shapes out. Does this create plausible believability for a judge to be like okay send out new ballots no and keep counting for four more weeks no or is this going to be like what what are they gonna do here? Like yeah could this be some could could this be some ballot stuffer that had some midnight and was like oh my gosh all the ballots that I gathered up that one person just Got charged. I'm gonna go light the box on top and record the evidence. Or is this like a high Spencer Pratt area burnt them? Or like what's going on here? I don't know. And then only that attacking another vote counting center. You know what you're gonna need? Centralization, high security. That's probably where they're gonna go. Never let a good crisis go to right waste. In

Washington Energy Policy And Utility Hikes

SPEAKER_14 44:20

Washington State, we have an energy problem, Ron. We have an energy problem. Now, this energy problem goes all the way back to Jay Ensley, probably before that, because nothing is ever in a vacuum. But Jay Insley, if you remember when he ran for president of the United States, that short-lived campaign he had. What was his one platform? What was the one single plank he had on his platform? Climate change, bro. Climate change. Washington State is gonna lead the world on climate change. We're gonna fix all of it right here from our little seat in the Pacific Northwest. Okay, so he instituted all types of climate change regulation. Well, this climate change regulation mainly went after energy producers. Okay, it went after builders. We had like a whole bunch more climate regulation in our building codes. It went after a lot of different industry sectors, but more than anything, it went after gas and oil, production and transportation and distribution big time. Okay.

SPEAKER_17 45:18

Yeah, for people in the rest of the world, um, Washington, we can't build new homes with gas anymore for some reason. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_14 45:26

Yeah. Now, the crazy thing about under Jay Ansley's time as governor, which I think we got 12 years out of the guy.

SPEAKER_18 45:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 45:35

A little bit of time. But 12 years out of the guy, we were one of the only states in the union that our carbon footprint went up. So even though he was completely focused on green energy and climate change regulation, our carbon footprint went up over that period of time. Now, other states that put no emphasis on it at all, but they just unleashed like builders and developers. Guess what? They built climate neutral to begin with because it's more cost in certain elements, it's more cost efficient, right? And uh, but because of all of the climate change stuff, like you could stack it all up, and it's like this had the opposite effect of what we intended. Yeah. Well, now we Washingtonians are paying the price. Puget Sound Energy, PSC, which is our main energy provider in Washington state, is proposing major utility hikes, 30% on electricity and 20% on natural gas over the next three years. The biggest driver? Compliance costs tied to our state's climate commitment after Washington Democrats. Nothing to do with the actual product. Nothing to do with the actual product, but now you got to pay for it. And this is what I was saying. You pay the interest on the debt. They fund these programs up front. And then by the time we realize they don't work, the minimum payments do, and your taxes have to go up or your fees have to go up, right? If we had become more efficient with our climate regulations, would the cost of electricity go up or down, Ron? They should go down.

SPEAKER_17 47:09

Maybe our highest high tax on gas would go wouldn't go up anymore. I don't know, maybe.

SPEAKER_14 47:16

So here's the thing. My wife called Fugic Sound Energy because this is who we get our energy for. Okay. Because our monthly bill is stupid. We're like six, seven hundred dollars a month for electricity. Okay, it's ridiculous. And we're I mean, we're going around, I'm already going around the house turning off lights. I've become like the dad that's turning off lights everywhere. And I'm I'm looking at the hot tub all side-eyed because I just need to unplug you. You're just warming up that water. Kids get in it once a week. You know, I'm like, don't need the hot tub. I mean, don't need the heater. Start getting stingy. Oh, totally. In the wintertime, we're burning wood for heat, turning on the furnace. It's way too much electricity to run that van. Yeah. Okay. Already that guy. So my wife calls up Puget Sound Energy to try to, you know, figure out what's going on with the bill. And Puget Sound Energy is like, oh, but we have all these programs here. If you give us all your financial information, if you put in like they want us to fill out these applications and figure out how much money we make, and you know, like, and then they'll give us discounts. They want to get all in your business. They want to get all in your business, but then you can get a subsidy, you can get a discount because you're low income. And I'm like, well, first of all, right? I don't want to be low income. And I know any piece of paper I sign from you guys becomes a perjury trap. There's step one. But I'm like, the second thing is look at how regressive of or progressive, I guess, of a system that is. So if you're low income, you have the high electricity rate, but then they'll subsidize it. Where's the subsidy money coming from? I don't know. It's either coming from the energy payers that don't qualify for subsidies that end up paying double, right? To pay for the someone else's subsidy, or it's coming from tax money. Why don't we just have lower energy? Why don't we just have lower energy? I don't know. Right? Why why does one person pay less because they're quote low income and another person pay more for the exact same commodity? We don't get a discount on gasoline, right? Like it's not like, hey, I don't make enough money, so here's my discount card for gas. That's not how the system works. It's a commodity, it's just a jewel of energy. We should all pay the same price.

SPEAKER_17 49:27

I think I'm gonna call up PSC and start complaining about all the people getting subsidies, like these John Tacas.

SPEAKER_14 49:33

You know what we should do? We should just we should just run Bitcoin mining scrids, uh, have no job so we can qualify for all the subsidies. Maybe we can run it off our neighbor's house too. Why not? It's such a freaking mess. You know, and that's the thing. These cities and states that are run by the socialists, it's this over and over and over and over again. And every now and then something big happens where the city has to clean up. So, for example,

Seattle, World Cup, And City Decay

SPEAKER_14 50:00

Washington State this summer is gonna host the World Cup. Oh, yeah, we're gonna have a whole bunch of games and practices and sports teams. Apparently, we're supposed to be full of Europeans this summer, just walking all over the place.

SPEAKER_17 50:11

Oh boy, what could happen?

SPEAKER_14 50:12

Bunch of weirdo soccer fans. So we're gonna have a bunch of weirdo soccer fans rolling around. And Ari Hoffman had on, I don't remember this guy's name. Ari Hoffman had on um, let's see, President Kent Luke's from the Seattle Police Officers Guild talking about cleaning up Seattle for the World Cup.

SPEAKER_13 50:31

What would you say if somebody says, is Seattle ready for the World Cup?

SPEAKER_07 50:35

Well, I agree with your distinction of you know the immediate area around the stadium, right? I think that that that's going to be very well covered, mutual aid, the feds, everything else. It is kind of the surrounding areas, right? It's really what Seattle has become over, let's just say the last decade. Um, right, kind of this this unfortunate decay. Um, I think this is the culmination of you know being lax on crime and consequences, right? So I I'd say the surrounding areas, that's kind of the troubled area. That's my concern. Is the open air drug markets, um right, all the storefronts being closed, things like that. So in that sense, it's hard to see a World Cup ready city, right? That's inviting where there's other things going on and other areas that you're gonna want to go and see. I think uh I'm concerned people might be a bit surprised.

SPEAKER_14 51:29

What would you say if somebody says people are gonna be surprised for Seattle? When I first moved up here and my family would come visit, see visit us, we would always go down to Pikes Market, we'd go to see the downtown, you know, just right off the ferry. We'd go walk the boardwalk there. We stopped doing that. We stopped doing that because you couldn't walk between the ferry and Pikes Market without being accosted by homeless people. It was it got to be kind of sketchy to be walking down there with little kids. You know, I got six kids, like you know, we got like one in each hand, my wife's got one in each hand. We still got two loose.

SPEAKER_17 51:59

There used to be, you know, there used to be a day when uh you knew most of the homeless dudes, they had names and they had spots where they were and they were like fixtures, you know, that the tourists would even go visit, and then it just turned into deadbeats everywhere.

SPEAKER_14 52:14

Deadbeats everywhere. It's it's sketchy. And if you walk further up into downtown Seattle through Pioneer Square, the the urine smell is overwhelming. It's I stopped. We started heading west. Take you out to the whole rainforest, take you out to Port Angeles. We don't we don't want to go back to Seattle. Like that was seven, eight, nine years ago that that happened. And the city has just deteriorated ever since. Like I remember when I was doing auctions in the city, this is just this was during the uh occupy Wall Street protests, and there were kind of two big scandals happening in Seattle at the same time. One was the occupied Occupy Wall Street protests, which would come and bug us at the auctions, and they'd they kind of just were everywhere, and there was just no pushback. Like the city just had a total hands-off policy with these with these Occupy Wall Street protesters. Well, the Occupy Wall Street protesters gathered out a lot of homeless people to create strength and numbers. It was very clearly happening. You had the organizers who were there for an ideological cause, and they surrounded themselves themselves with riffraff.

SPEAKER_18 53:15

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_14 53:16

To create, I don't know, the appearance of support or whatever it was. Well, simultaneously with that, with that, the riffraff that they were surrounding themselves with were going into the to the public library in Seattle, and they were looking at pornography in the public library. Do you remember this?

SPEAKER_17 53:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 53:30

It was kind of like this big scandal. Like kind of like, I can't take my kids to the library because you know, Mr. Jack B. Nimble over there is plants down around his ankles, and he's watching, you know, very bad things on the screen that my kids can see. And they didn't, to my knowledge, Ron, they never resolved that.

SPEAKER_18 53:46

Oh no.

SPEAKER_14 53:47

They got privacy screens. Yeah. They put up like side things and little privacy screens so you couldn't see from an angle. They never actually fixed the problem.

SPEAKER_17 53:55

Uh it's my understanding that some of this actually happened here locally, too, and people just don't know.

SPEAKER_14 54:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 54:02

Didn't you know that?

SPEAKER_14 54:03

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_17 54:04

Ugh.

SPEAKER_14 54:04

But not good. So uh oh, I just deleted that one.

unknown 54:10

Darn it.

SPEAKER_17 54:11

Libraries just aren't, you know, as trafficked as they used to be when I was a kid, I think. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 54:18

Yeah. Anyways, I remember this current iteration of Seattle's downslide to me started then. Right. It just you could just tell. It was just the lack of law and order. The car, the car garages got filled with urine, couldn't hardly walk in them. Pioneer Square got real sketchy, and it has never been cleaned up. It just got progressively worse and worse and worse. It was right after that Chaz Chop happened. Yeah, I mean, fast forward a couple of years and Chop happened, which could have never happened had we just implemented the rules they had for protests after the WTO protests. Right. But they they suspended all that or just stopped enforcing it when the Occupy Wall Street protests came around. Again, because there's an ideological link between the city governance and those protesters, they took a hands-off approach and it just metastasized. They curated the homeless population, like they brought them in together and organized them in encampments and things like that. Like it was very clear.

SPEAKER_17 55:15

I think the first time we covered Chaz Chop, that was the first time I accidentally swore on the podcast.

SPEAKER_14 55:22

It was rough. Deplorable D says, we're also paying these people salaries. I'm sure they skim a percentage off that off the top. Yeah, when you're got, I mean, Seattle doesn't have a budget problem. They have a too much money. You've got 100 and something million dollars for uh the homeless people, or was it 1.7 billion for homeless, which was up from the 400 million four years ago? And we just we're just missing all this money. Exactly. Exactly. Okay, another thing too, and we've talked about this before.

CDLs, Crashes, And Autonomous Vehicles

SPEAKER_14 55:55

And I wonder at what point will the crisis become so bad that we adopt driverless semi-trucks and passenger vehicles. So Elon Musk has already stopped making the Tesla Model 3 in favor of the robo taxi, the Tesla taxi, which is the Model 3 just without a at all, right? It's like incredible. Um looks really interesting. But he also has the semi-truck, which has auto driving capacity. Now, obviously, the semi-truck is designed to have people in it, but we have a problem. Okay, we have a lot of illegal immigrants who have been given CDL licenses. In fact, it's been said that in these states that were giving illegal immigrants CDL licenses, it actually was easier to get your CDL than to get your regular driver's license. Did you know that? Apparently, this became a tactic.

unknown 56:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 56:45

To get an illegal alien, his CDL came with work opportunities. Some of these illegal aliens, the first license they were issued was the CDL. Oh my gosh. So they didn't even have a normal driver's license. They were actually harder to get than a CDL was. Okay. So that's a really interesting tidbit there. Well, there was a bus in Virginia driving full of passengers that was being driven by an illegal immigrant.

SPEAKER_26 57:22

At least 44 people were taken to local hospitals, three of them with critical injuries. The bus was operated by EP Travel. It was heading from New York City to Charlotte, North Carolina. Now federal investigators are looking into New York licensing records, training documentation, and the driver's history after Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy revealed this on X. He says per local police, the driver was a man who came from China who became a U.S. citizen and doesn't speak English. He received his commercial driver's license from front license from New York State in 2024. We have reached out to local police to confirm the information and have not yet heard back. Duffy, though, has been cracking down on what he says are illegally issued commercial driver's licenses. He says at the minimum, bus drivers should be able to read road signs, work zone.

SPEAKER_14 58:12

At the minimum, are we are we that hard off now that we're like, they should at least be able to read the signs? That that's it? That's the only requirement to get your CDL at this point, is just read the signs. A Chinese man who became a citizen who can't speak English in 2024. Could you imagine getting on that bus and somebody being like, hey, that guy, he's only been in the United States for two years. And he and he's a driver from China. Do you get in China? Have you seen the videos? Maybe it's better now with their AI control grid, but you know, every every every video I see from Asia with drivers, I'm like, nope, they don't, nope, nope, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_17 58:50

Every time I see one of these stories, I'm just at a loss for words. I just don't even know what to say.

SPEAKER_14 58:55

I don't even know what to say. Now, this is going to reach crisis level. It's already at crisis level. We've we've detailed just on this show, seven, eight, nine crashes this year with the illegal drivers driving these commercial vehicles. Yeah, that's just what we covered. At some point, we're gonna shift to where there's gonna be like, hey, we want all the cars to be autonomous drive, right? At a bare minimum, the illegal alien can just sit there and pump the brakes.

SPEAKER_17 59:19

Can the autonomous vehicles speak English?

SPEAKER_14 59:21

Can the autonomous vehicles speak English as Google Translate on board? Exactly. AI is gonna come for those jobs, right? Between the carriers not wanting to insure illegal immigrants or or companies that have bad track records to the crackdown on these drivers, we're going to have a we're going to have a trucking problem in America shortly. We're also going to have another type of problem in America, and that is a shortage of just good old-fashioned manual labor. Okay. We are living in a world where AI is going to replace a lot of labor. It's going to replace a lot of intellectual labor, your white-collar jobs, your computer jobs, and things like that. It's also going to replace a lot of factory labor where you do the same exact motion over and over and over. We've already seen robots take over factory floors. You know, you can see the videos of cars being assembled and it's all the robot arms putting them together. But things like the Optimus robots, the humanoid robots, those are going to take over a lot of repetitive tasks. I'm going to show you something I used to do. Okay. I'm going to go show you something I used to do that AI will not be taking this job soon. Okay. Anytime soon. And these jobs, while some of you might look at a job like this and think, oh, that's cheap. Anybody could do that. It's not going to cost a lot. These are the type of jobs, if you're an individual or you know someone, a nephew or a grandson that's looking for an industry to get into, it's going to be decades before AI takes over a job like this.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:52

Called panicking because their drain was backing up. They said they don't use flushable wipes, but we'll see if that's true or not. Inside this yard box is a backwater valve. I've got to pump the water out so I can get to it. These are designed to prevent backups, but they can also be the reason for backups. And that's exactly what happened here. After months of flushable wipes, this valve became somewhat of a choke point for those to build up and completely backed up the entire house here. I didn't know how bad it was yet, so I just took my screwdriver to get the flap out of the way and start poking at the clog to see what it was like. But after pulling out some wipes, it was clear how bad it was gonna be. It started forcing its own way through. And in hindsight, I wish I used a bigger screwdriver or anything else here. It's pretty gross watching this back. So once I got it past this choke point of that back water valve, I was able to send my cable down and push that through. All of this will flow into the much larger city sewer drain. So satisfying once I got great flow going on this. Other than the bill this customer got, she was super relieved. I put the flat back down on the back water valve. This was an easy unclog, but would have been a great one to have a jetter, and I wish I had one. These jobs can be pretty undesirable, but helping someone with a major issue like this is a great feeling. If your drains don't work, you can't flush your toilet, it impacts you immediately, and you need it fixed as soon as possible. So I'm happy to be someone that gets to do that.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:06

And that's because we're the future of human jobs. That is exactly what I used to do. Ask me why my my my uh immune system is so good. If you notice this guy's not wearing rubber gloves, he's just wearing some gloves.

SPEAKER_17 1:02:21

Yeah, though he's wearing uh N95 gloves.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:26

Not protecting him at all. And the equipment, you know, his hand on that snake in and out. Yep, exactly. So AI is not coming for those jobs, folks. When I think about all the things the AI would have to do, it'd have to be like waterproof hands, it'd have to identify the problem. Like, ain't gonna happen. Ain't gonna happen anytime soon. We got another ad Ron.

SPEAKER_17 1:02:48

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AI Power Demands And Anthropic Worries

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SPEAKER_14 1:03:32

That's awesome. We're gonna talk about some economics today in Rumble Premium and Price. Okay, so AI. There are different AI companies, and these different AI companies seem to have different purposes. Elon Musk has advertised that Grok is supposed to be ultimately truth-finding, wants to be a true AI, right? It gets down to the truth. You've got Anthropic, which is one that is or Palantir, which is um focusing on being the interface between other AIs and all the weapons systems. You've got OpenAI, which has has now a government contract with the Pentagon. And I don't know, they they were supposed to be a nonprofit, started by email, taken over by Sam Alton, big, big scandal there. And then you have, I already mentioned Anthropic. So this gentleman, Bill Gurley, right here, he did a whole bunch of research on anthropic and what the creators of Anthropic have said. Now, if you remember, Anthropic is the one who did have a Pentagon contract, and the Pentagon kicked him out because they said, listen, you guys don't get to decide who we kill or don't kill with this angel. We get to decide that at the Department of War. Okay. So they canceled all the contracts with the Anthropic. But then they kind of went back on that because Anthropic's pretty deep into the system, and now they have some limited contracts. I don't know, whatever. But let's hear a little bit about anthropic. Because on one hand, I want people to have hope there will be a place for humans in the new world. Okay. And it's probably not going to be here in five years. We're going to just there's an energy problem with bringing AI online, right? So the tsunami of AI taking everybody's jobs, that's going to go along a strict line with energy production. Right. Right. So, you know, right now, if you want to use AI for certain things, it is cost prohibitive. I was looking at one guy who was creating a um what was he creating? It was something very, very cool. He was using AI to unlock something. I can't remember what it was, but he was showing how he did it. And he had to rent server space to run his Claude node in order to do it. And it was like 5,000 bucks is three days of server space so that it could run this program. And that's pretty cost prohibitive.

SPEAKER_18 1:05:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:50

Right. Now that cost will go down as more server farms are built and energy is produced, those costs will go down. But right now it's cost prohibitive. So there's a lot of jobs that won't be taken. Not because AI can't do the job, but because having AI do the job is more cost prohibitive than keeping the labor on board.

SPEAKER_17 1:06:07

This would be the same type of decision as to whether or not you want to mine Bitcoin based on the energy cost in your area.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:14

Yes. It's like, is it where's it worth the squeeze or not? Yeah. And what what I'm finding too, and we're going to talk about this in private in a couple minutes. What I'm finding too is a lot of people will set up Bitcoin miner servers farms and then they'll rent out the space to AI and depending on who's paying more, right? Because it's the same servers.

SPEAKER_18 1:06:32

Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:32

Right. So depending on who's paying more, they'll rent it out to an AI company and then they'll switch back over to Bitcoin mining and they'll just go back and forth as the, you know, they're just watching their cost line. Pretty actually that's pretty interesting. All right. So let's learn a little bit about anthropic.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

I've literally in the past 30 days read everything I can about anthropic, and I've come up with a new theory. This is this. Okay, new breaking theory. The reason I call this the Dr. Frankenstein theory is the more I dig, I've met people who I who I dare say think it's their responsibility and they're excited about building a species that's that's superior to humans. And I would just encourage people to read you know as much as they can about anthropic. Chris Ola worked on this thing called the Constitution. It's about 80 pages, it's hard to get through, but I would encourage you to read it. Amanda Askill, who is the chief philosopher, has started doing podcasts. I would encourage you to listen to them and listen to her language. And then Dario wrote this blog post called Machines of Loving Grace. And it was based on a poem. And the poem is kind of weird. I would we should put a link to the poem, it's quite short. But the last the last stanza of the poem says, I like to think of a cybernetic ecology where we are free of our labors and joined back to nature, returned to our mammal brothers and sisters. I don't know what that means, like we're gonna go live in the fields where the mammals live. I I and then the the kicker, and all watched over by machines of loving grace. Sounds like overlord to me. And then in Dario's post, he says he near the end, and it's very long. You read it, Jamal. I mean, the machines of loving grace is very long, but he's he's talking about in the future what are humans going to do because he believes in the massive abundance and UBI and that we won't have to work. I don't believe in any of those things, but he does. And then he says, it could be a capitalist economy of AI systems, which then give out resources to humans based on some secondary economy of what the AI systems think makes sense to reward in humans. So so that's envisioning a a deity of sorts that's gonna break ties and decide what's the right.

SPEAKER_24 1:09:00

It's a computational reward function for humans, it decides how much you're worth.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

Yeah, so I don't think they think they're writing software, I think they're midwifing a deity here. And and I don't know which one I'm more afraid of, the regulatory capture or or or or the second theory I call the Dr. Frankenstein theory. It it's more it's more scary to me, I think. The second thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:24

These are delusions of grandeur, let's call it what it is. They believe that they are so intelligent. I know some of these folks, the burning man sort of offshoot of it, transhumanism. They believe that they're so powerful, these individuals, that they can create God. And that by creating God, they are like this Prometheus kind of species. It literally is the ultimate level of narcissism and delusion of grandeur to think you can create God, and that then the God you create, like you're saying, Bill, is gonna be so benevolent and perfect that you create constructed the perfect God that will give you your pellet, will give you your little skinarian, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:06

I just would correct you. I didn't say it.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:07

Dario said right, but no, but to your point of like just taking them at their word, they actually believe that they can create God and that they'll create a God so good that it's better than humanity.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:18

And the thing I want to point out, right? They think they can do that, but you know what those programmers have never done, Ron? And how do I know this? Because I've charged them $300 to come and do it, unclog their back and stuff. Okay. That's the thing. I've literally in the past the the thing that I want to enforce with you on that, right? There are all kinds of problems. The AI is going to be presented as the solution, but the thing it's not going to be able to do, the last thing it'll be able to do is unclog the terrain. There's going to be a premium on simple jobs like that. The hard jobs, these truly labor-intensive jobs like factory work, it's already been replaced by robots. I've even seen Elon Musk when he was building his recent data center. Did you see he had all of the dozers and skidsters and excavators on remote control and the guys in an air-conditioned connex running them, right? Even things like that could be replaced. But what's not going to be replaced is just good old grab a shovel and dig that thing up. Good old, yep, just unclog that drain, reach your hand on in there and pull it out. Use your intuition to know what it's clogged, right? It's going to be a fascinating thing. Now,

Millionaire Tax Clash And Local Politics

SPEAKER_14 1:11:30

one of the things that never ceases to amaze me is liberals when they show up to protest stuff. So in Washington State, there's a uh initiative floating around to essentially put the repealing of the millionaires' income tax on the ballot.

SPEAKER_18 1:11:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:48

It's being put out there by Brian Haywood. And uh, so he's got people he pays for being recorded in London and get signatures. And this is one of the places where he was getting signatures. Now, this gentleman in the pink shirt is signing the initiative. Okay. This other person here, man, woman, I don't know, it's got some stubble facial hair here, but kind of presents as a woman, is in opposition to this.

SPEAKER_17 1:12:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_15 1:12:12

You're being recorded. You are harassing people signing. I'm asking you to leave. Sign to stop the 9.9% state income tax. I'm asking you thank you for your service, sir. Washington GOP initiative. Sign to stop the 9.9% state income tax. We get that on the ballot to repeal. Do you get paid to do an actual job, or do you have a real job? We signed to stop the 9.9% state income tax. Get that on the ballot to repeal. We signed to stop the 9.9% state income tax. You tend to call the company to stop the 9.9% state income tax. I think that you are not only a fraud, I think you're a piece of shit. Sign the 9.9% state income tax. You help get that on the ballot to repeal. Sign the stateful piece of shit. Jesus loves you. Sign to stop the state income tax. Get that on the ballot to repeal. Sign to stop the 9.9% state income tax. Get that on the ballot to repeal. Millionaire tax.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:30

Sign to stop the 9.9% state income tax. I can't be positive, but I think that person's a transgender. Presents kind of like a woman, but has a little stubble facial hair. I don't know which direction they're heading. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_17 1:13:44

I'm pretty sure that's local.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:47

It looks like looks like Polesboat, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_17 1:13:49

It sure does.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:50

It really does. I don't think it is, though. That hill would go up more somewhere else. Anyways, isn't it funny though? How it's always the same people that are outspoken. People just coming and going. Guys sitting there signing the initiative. Nobody's giving a hoot and a holler, but there's always the one person. It's that one person that when they come up and do stuff like that, it amplifies them as if there's 10 of them behind it. There's not, there's not 10 people behind it. Right. There's 10 people that would support it that won't come near the booth because that person's there causing the scene. Right. But it's funny, even with that red hair, there was the woman behind it that had the red hair too. And I'm like, I don't think these people are the same. She's married to a real working class husband somewhere. Anyways, all right, guys, we're gonna jump over into private, but not before I show you one other magical thing. This is Spencer Pratt, and he's running for mayor of LA. So this is a mayor's position. We've got tonight in the Republican Party in Kitsap County. If you're in Kitsap County, please come tonight to the Republican Party. It's over off of uh, I think Auto Center Way or Kitsap Way. It's over by Red Apple in Bremerton. So you need to join us for that. It's at 6610 Kitsap Way Suite 102 Bremerton, Washington. Okay. And we are going to be hearing from candidates tonight. So this is an important night. We're going to be hearing from Teresa Fox, who's running for the 6th Congressional District as representative, Leon Lawson, who's also running for the 6th Congressional District as a representative, Kevin Tisdell for Kitsap County Commissioner, District 3, Phil Cook for Kitsup County Auditor, Rick Cuss for Kitsap County Sheriff, Lance Byrd for 23rd Legislative District Representative Position 2, Gary Parker for the 26th Legislative District Senator, David Olson for 26th Legislative Representative Position 1, Katie Cornell, 26th Legislative District Representative Position 2, Drew McEwen for 35th Legislative District Senator, Dan Griffey for 35th 5th Legislative Representative Position number one, and David Stevens for Washington State Supreme Court. So they are all going to be at the meeting tonight and we get to ask them questions. I plan on asking them a question specific to their position. Right. So I'm not going to ask them, what do you think about the war in Iran? None of these people are going to be able to do anything about the war in Iran. What do you think about gas prices? A couple of these people might be able to vote to lower the tax percent in the future, right? I'm going to find something that is very specific to their office and ask them a real clear question. That's one of the things I really appreciate about Spencer Pratt down in LA. He's running for mayor of LA. Now LA is a huge city. They have huge budget problems, all these kinds of things, but he's keeping his campaign focused on things the mayor's office can actually fix.

SPEAKER_23 1:16:40

Disgusting. And even testing your drugs on a dog is the least of the worst of what these demons are doing to these poor animals. They're lighting them on fire. They're raping these dogs. They're abusing them. They're breeding them to the point that they die because they've been so overbred. And it's not just animals on Skid Row. We have an LA City shelter system that is supposed to be a no-kill shelter that's killing thousands of dogs, also because it's underfunded and it doesn't have the people that need to be running it, running it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:11

The images are astonishing. What do you hear from moms? You know, I'm a mom. I hope to one day.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:15

It sounds like a simple thing, but the mayor is in charge of the animal shelter. And how how what better way to reach across the aisle than to talk about pets and dogs? And that is something that is relevant to his office. How often do we have our politicians at local levels get caught up in big, big national narratives that they have nothing to do with? Gary points this out in uh political remodel quite a bit, talks about things like the governor has nothing to do with taxes. That's all legislature. He just signs. So he could say, I'll veto any tax creases or I'll sign any tax increases, right? He could say one or the other, but he himself cannot raise or lower taxes. Why do we allow them to use that on their campaigns? It's a promise that can never be actually fulfilled, right? So I plan on finding out specific things that each one of those candidates in their representative districts, what they're going to represent, what they can do, something they can do. And I'm going to ask, I'm going to try to ask more questions. Find out if they got their feet under them. Yep. And I encourage everybody, attend your meetings. They're coming up. This summer is important. You've got you've got primaries that are still happening all around the country. And of course, we have the general coming up in November. And guys, I can feel it in the air. Stuff is happening on the election side of things. This election is not going to go normal, right? If you, if we the people, get involved to the PCO, precinct committee officers, and just ground pounders that can go out and become aware of these situations, share it within your spheres, spheres, spheres of influence, could make all the difference in the world. Who knows? Who knows, Ron? Maybe we'll unseat some of these 20-plus year incumbents with our new election system and the voter rolls being cleaned up and stuff like that. It could be a big deal. Your vote definitely is going to count this year.

SPEAKER_17 1:19:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:03

All right, guys, let's jump over to private. We're going to talk a little bit about Bitcoin mining and we're going to get an update on the Clarity Act. This is important stuff. And then we're going to end off with power, oil. All right. We'll talk to you guys in a minute. Bye. All right.

Off-Grid Bitcoin Mining And Server Farms

SPEAKER_14 1:19:18

Okay. So as I've been going deeper and deeper into Bitcoin, I am just super impressed. I don't really care what the price is doing day to day, week to week, month to month, right? The money I put into Bitcoin, for the most part, I want to save it as long as possible. It changes your time preference. But it's also important to understand the network that Bitcoin operates in. One of the real geniuses of Bitcoin are the Bitcoin miners. The Bitcoin miners are the ones that keep it sovereign, independent. And one of the challenges with Bitcoin mining is because it's an income opportunity, right? You expend energy and you get a reward in Bitcoin that in theory should be more than the energy that it took to expend it. However, right now, today, there's a lot of demand on that energy. With AI coming in, AI is trying to suck up every spare joule or kilowatt hour that's out there, right? Which also shows that the Bitcoin price is very low because in America, for the most part, to mine Bitcoin, it costs a little bit more electricity than what than what you're getting back in Bitcoin. Now, there's regulatory stuff that I think is keeping the price of Bitcoin suppressed. We'll talk about that here in a second. But this is the real genius of Bitcoin. And I aspire to do what this guy is doing someday because he, along with the thousands of other people like him, are keeping the Bitcoin network independent rather than in these large mining pools where you have five or six or seven major miners around the world that they control a lot of the network. Guys like this make it so that they can't control the network. And I just love it. I love the idea of creating your own power to mine Bitcoin completely off grid. Dad, if you're still listening, there's a couple swear words in here. I apologize. You can sense this guy's pain.

SPEAKER_27 1:21:03

I tell you, these package deliveries, man, the bane of my existence. So first they lose the Ethernet switch. That was a weak delay because I had to order another one. And then they were supposed to deliver my my laptop charger yesterday. Well that got delayed. So I spent all night wiring this shit up to put hash online today. And uh I can't fucking put it on. It's uh, I tell you, man, it's you know, it's somebody said, well, why don't you just buy buy a spare? And it's like, dude, I'm not fucking rich. I put all my money into mining bitcoin. I mean you could you go buy an S uh an S21, like a brand new rig, and it'll make like thirty dollars a month. I mean there's it's people like me that just drop every dollar we got into mining bitcoin that keep the fucking network going. Because there ain't much money in it. It's you know, if it's I mean, you look the majority of the miners are are profit-driven, they just mine to to collect money, so the network becomes extremely centralized, and then you've got crazy assholes like me out here that fucking have next to nothing because all we do have is a bitcoin mine. So, you know, when it comes to me, do I buy a second uh computer so I have a backup? Fuck no. I put more solar panels in the air and mine more fucking bitcoin. That's what I do. So it is what it is, man. So uh that fucking shit better show up today, or I'm gonna be pissed off. I'm gonna be raging. I gotta get this shit. Everything's I spent all night fucking hooking that shit up. Only for them to not deliver this shit. So it's whatever, man. Fucking sick of it. The shipment bullshit is an embarrassment.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:06

He's out in the middle of nowhere. I can't get my Amazon package overnight with my Ethernet switch. Dude, how cool is that though, Ron? He's just got solar panels. Where is he? I don't know, but he's got sunshine. It's a little bit cloudy day right now. But dude, when he he shows, I got all those computers in the background. Oh my goodness, that is so cool. Excess energy being converted into Bitcoin. I love it so much. I love it so much. So huge kudos to that guy. There is a business model to build your own small server farm like that. You know, you got 10 acres or something, build a server farm, and then you can rent out the space to the AI companies too. Like there's ways to do that. So that's pretty, pretty incredible there. Starlink, some solar panels, and you're up and running. So cool. Okay, Clarity Act

Clarity Act Fight And Banking Panic

SPEAKER_14 1:23:56

update. Jamie Diamond was on with Maria Bartolomo, and he is not happy about the Clarity Act, no.

SPEAKER_22 1:24:02

So, you know, this is complicated, and it the government needs to do it thoughtfully. If they don't do it thoughtfully, it will be cause it'll be a huge problem.

SPEAKER_20 1:24:08

So, are you happy with the way the Clarity Act is turning out?

unknown 1:24:11

No.

SPEAKER_22 1:24:12

No, because it it it allows them to effectively pay interest on deposits, stable coins, or something like that, without the protection that they should have, and it doesn't do anything for MLBSA. It has almost no legal protections.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:24

Okay, so what is he talking about? Banks right now can take your deposit and they can pay you interest on it.

SPEAKER_18 1:24:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:29

Okay. Stable coins, for example, Coinbase, Tether, stable coins, they have a dollar in reserve for your stable coin. Okay, so you can use cryptocurrency for the stable coin, but it's tied to a dollar.

SPEAKER_18 1:24:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:42

Now the dollar is deflating away, but at least there's one dollar per stable coin. There's no rehypothecation. Okay. So what the Clarity Act is was originally going to allow was it was going to allow crypto companies who you keep your money in USDC, United States digital currency, or USDT, United States Digital Treasuries, or any other dollar-based stable coin, they were going to allow them to pay interest like you would from the bank.

SPEAKER_18 1:25:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:15

What would that do? If I'm young, 20 years old, and I don't have a normal bank account, but I have a Coinbase account because mom and dad paid me allowance on Coinbase because it was so convenient.

SPEAKER_18 1:25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:27

Why would I ever go open a bank account if I can earn interest at Coinbase?

SPEAKER_17 1:25:31

Uh, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:33

Exactly. So they're terrified that there's going to be a flight of capital out of the banks into crypto.

SPEAKER_17 1:25:40

All the bank CEOs are freaking.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:42

Yes. Now, the bank CEOs, they'll use all kinds of propaganda. Cryptos for criminals, crypto's going to do all the totally ignoring the fact that 99% of money laundering gets laundered through their banks. 99% of the monetary problems happen because of the banks, right? So, but and they don't, but they don't want crypto in on the game.

SPEAKER_17 1:26:00

You know, don't take our deposits. Yeah, I don't think that that's gonna work. That might work on the old guard, but the new generation is gonna go, what's Jamie Diamond talking about? Who cares? Exactly. Let's continue here.

SPEAKER_22 1:26:12

So no, the bank will not accept it that way. They won't accept it. And the ABA, the small banks, the credit unions, not just the big guys. I'm not worried about stable coin, but if it happened, I'm telling you, I would have nothing to do with it, and it would eventually blow up in its own. Okay, but that's my personal thing. But I do understand the concern of all the other banks.

SPEAKER_20 1:26:30

So well, the markup is coming. I mean, what are you gonna do with that?

SPEAKER_22 1:26:33

It is we'll fight it. If we lose, we lose, and we'll live.

unknown 1:26:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_22 1:26:36

But it will be fought. This will not be no that no one's gonna bow down to this guy, okay, or that company. But he's the only one and he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars on and watching this thing.

SPEAKER_20 1:26:47

He said he's he's representing the whole industry.

SPEAKER_22 1:26:49

He's full of shit.

SPEAKER_20 1:26:51

Well, um we're gonna watch that one. Wow. Well, I mean, this is turning into a big fight between you know each industry. And and and you're talking about blockchain and and and getting blockchain out. But we do blockchain. We've been doing that for a long time.

SPEAKER_22 1:27:05

We're gonna do it. I think it's a legitimate uh technology. I think stablecoin can be a legitimate uh payment system.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:12

So yeah, it's legitimate technology, but don't take away our interest. So it's gonna be a huge fight. So the Clarity Act is not done by any means, and you have to recognize there's cryptocurrencies and there's Bitcoin. They're two different things, right? And then you've got the United States currency and cryptocurrency, and cryptocurrency is going to eat the United States currency game banks, big banks, it's gonna eat their lunch, it's gonna eat their lunch. No more need for wire transfers, you can just do digital exchange and billions of dollars instantaneously. You're not gonna be other banks aren't gonna be able to take your interest over a weekend while you're waiting for a wire to clear. It fixes tons of problems with the banking system. But of course, the banking system is late to the game, okay, because right when this Bill passes, Coinbase is going to eat Chase's lunch.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:04

Yeah, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:06

Big deal there. Now, they hate Bitcoin specifically. They do not want you to have Bitcoin. Even if you transition into cryptocurrencies, that's fine. You're still on grid. Totally on grid. Bitcoin is different. And it's full of people who love freedom. So for example, last week somebody paid quite a bit of extra money to put the entire constitution into the blockchain. This blockchain is immutable. Okay. So when we talk about in a thousand years from now, when we go back and look at the blockchain, this will be on there.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:38

All right. That's pretty cool. Now nobody can change it.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:42

On 666, when it was like the 666 blockchain or 666,666 blockchain, somebody put in a scripture about defeating evil and the energy and stuff like that. So it again, Bitcoin is really interesting. These guys, these masters of the universe, just hate it. They get it turned to a postboard. They do not want you to own private Bitcoin and private custody, right? Because then you're at parallel with them. Cynthia Loomis, the crypto senator from Wyoming, talked about this little spat between the banks and the cryptocurrency companies.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:15

Um this is uh some competition for them. They view it as competition that will hurt their ability to um uh sustain the uh deposits they need to make loans. I disagree with that. They want changes that actually would go back to the Genius Act we passed last summer and make changes to it. Um I think that they should embrace digital assets. It's going to be part of the financial products they can offer in the future. We're gonna have a digital dollar, a digital bitcoin, digital alternative coins. Uh it's gonna be a new financial landscape, and I'd like to see the traditional banking industry embrace it instead of fight it.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:04

But they're gonna fight it. They're gonna fight it. Last gas is going down. That that market cannot continue into the future. The one advantage, the one advantage that the current banking system has over cryptocurrency is it doesn't have the same energy demands. Now, I think this is an interesting discussion. I think if you actually add it up the energy that banking uses, it might not be, it might be a wash, right? It might be a watch. But coming online, the way cryptocurrency uses energy is different than the way the banks use energy. The banks use energy just to run the warehouse, run the office, run the computer systems. If they redirected that energy into data centers, it might work out as a watch. But for the time being, they're gonna run in parallel. So who's gonna get the new energy? Right? Obviously, the AI and the data centers are gonna get it. And that's eventually gonna cause Bitcoin to go up in value. Because the miners won't mine it at a loss forever. Eventually they'll just say, we're not selling our coins except for at this dollar amount. Right. And that'll cause a spike when that hits, who knows, right? So here is Doug Bergum, Interior Secretary, talking about oil and gas drilling in the United States. We are up 20% from the peak we've ever been. So we are we are way up on oil, and oil prices are down, they were below eighty-eight dollars a barrel over the weekend, which is good.

SPEAKER_17 1:31:49

So we're back down to $2 gas. Oh no.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:51

Not quite. But it is the it is the biggest decrease in oil pricing in decades that we've had in the last month. So all this good news about Iran maybe being on the verge of a deal is good. Rather than on the verge of not having a deal, we've been on the verge of having a deal, which is which is reflected good in the market. So that's all fun. All right, guys, that's it for us today. Thank you so much for joining us. First day of the month. We got some good chats in. Yeah. Glad you guys made it to the very end. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Bye.

Peasants And Kings Outro Clip

SPEAKER_30 1:32:44

What might lift them coming to whatever that? I'm 37. I'm 37, I'm not old. Well, I can't just call you Matt's. You could say Dennis. I didn't know you were called Dennis. Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind, you look subjectively, they automatically treat me like an inferior. Well, I am king. Oh, king, eh, very nice. How'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers, by hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever gonna be any progress. How'd you do? How do you do, good lady? I'm Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that? King of the Britons. Who are the Britons? We all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king. No, we have a king. I thought we're an autonomous collective. You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship of self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes. How dare you go? That's what it's all about. Only people, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? No one lives there. Then who is your lord? We don't have a lord. What? I told you. We're in a narco-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. Yes. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting. Yes, I see. By a civil majority in the case of purely internal affairs. Be quacked, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of quack. I order you to be quacked. I'm your king. You don't vote for kings? Why do you become king then? The lady of the lake. Her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water. Signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I'm your king. Listen, strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derived from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Bequ. But you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tarp through a sword. I mean, if I went round saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bitch had lobbed a scimitar at me, they put me away. Shut up, will you? Shut up. Now we see the violence inherited in the system.