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Ross&Evan 24/7
Ross & Evan Investigate Apollo 11
Ross and Evan dive headfirst into two of the wildest debates on the internet: Could 100 men armed with nothing but determination defeat a single gorilla? And... did we really land on the moon in 1969? This episode gets a bit chippy. Bunker down for our thoughts on both of these crazy debates.
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Speaker 1:Our producers. Some might say one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
Speaker 2:Some people might say it, but are we going to say it? That's just little uh, foreshadowing this is called, uh, it's called the journey, and we're on this journey and and I'm yeah, we're actually changing the name journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna our journey, our journey, so yeah, our journey, pod 24 7.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we got ourselves, and we got ourselves an episode today. I'll tell you what folks we sure do.
Speaker 1:Um, my friend, I think we've uh discussed it the last two weeks um, and we've really teased this one we have, we got, we got a couple people they're. They're why angry at us?
Speaker 2:actually, people are angry and some people are uh, they're dumping, they're chomping at the bit. Yeah, to get it, to get it out. So we're gonna get it out, um, and we're not. You know what we're and we're not. You know what we're going to make you wait just a little bit longer, because I got a question that's been burning a hole in my mind since this morning. Gavin, one of our friends, gavin, put it in our golf chat we have.
Speaker 2:And then I was like I didn't really think anything of it until I saw it on X about 45 to an hour ago.
Speaker 1:A little reminder yeah, it reminded me A little fate, maybe, yeah, maybe, Fate slash algorithm.
Speaker 2:I know the answer to it because I asked Grok, so I'm going to ask you. I want to hear what you think about it. Do you think I know the answer? Well, you might you might All right. It's kind of a you can't really have a. You can't really have a. It's not a right or a wrong answer. It's one of those oh okay, one of those that you just say something and you let me know, all right, so I'm going to get right into it. I'm going to get right into it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to slurping something, sucking something.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yep, here, let's give him a little.
Speaker 1:Let's give him a little cheers.
Speaker 2:Cheers.
Speaker 1:That is a sonic slush. Ross has nerds, I have no nerds, so if you hear that, that's all, don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:Anyways the question. Anyway, to the question. All right, who wins in a fight, mr Silverback? Gorilla, all right, or 100 men? All right, and they are not. We're going to go Gorilla versus 100 men, untrained, unweaponized, and then I will go into trained, weaponized folk after. Okay.
Speaker 1:By the way, dude, I love it because every five to ten years, every single five to ten years, this question just gets kind of shifted or changed a little bit. Five years ago, five to ten years ago was, uh, silverback versus grizzly yep, that one wasn't as fun. No, a lot of scientists, naturist people, they got in there. They kind of brought in facts and stuff, video evidence that we didn't really want to see.
Speaker 2:It's not what we were asking for.
Speaker 1:Ai came in started to have a hand in all that Appable intelligence Muddied the waters, so this one's a lot more fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, you got a hundred human beings like you and I, right.
Speaker 1:So now, okay, so do I get? How do you want me to attack this? Do you want me to really break this down, or do you want me to give initial thought first? So let's do give me your initial thought first and then kind of lean into it, kind of go into it, if you will. So my initial thought was I'm trying to think, I really think my initial thought was that a gorilla would win. Okay, Just initially.
Speaker 2:Now, these are Because those are scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gorillas are scary.
Speaker 2:And these are untrained, unweaponed, they don't have any weapons.
Speaker 1:Facts.
Speaker 2:That's true, that's true, I mean, these guys are just going in blind, right, right.
Speaker 1:Now I started to think about it a little harder, a little more critically, and I said okay, 100 men. So now here's where you start building the scenario yourself, and I think this is where the the answers differ from each other a lot of times between between us citizens. You know what I mean. Um, so what I immediately pictured was okay, you got one gorilla sitting in the middle and a hundred dudes, you know, kind of circled up around it, mobbed up around it, not one big perfect circle, because that'd be too big, but I'm saying they're, they're tight, yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean they're collapsing in on the elbow to elbow a hundred guys I would think would be able to just like I don't know man. See, now I'm thinking about it even harder. So I'll finish this thought I initially said they would just be able to just kind of pound, they'd rip at its nuts, they'd fucking finger its butt, they'd rip its eyes out, they'd rip its tongue. But like would they? Right For?
Speaker 2:one is one question.
Speaker 1:Average man. I don't know if I'm doing that because there's no scenario you can go into there too, but then okay, so let's say they do Like is that going to matter Right At all? Because gorillas fight other gorillas, they do Other animals.
Speaker 2:As far as I know, especially the silverback gorilla. He's the alpha of all the gor animals. I think, as far as I know, especially the silverback gorilla, right, he's the alpha of all the gorillas, right, dude? I mean, like that's not innocent.
Speaker 1:No, alpha sigma riz, you know Gen Z stuff.
Speaker 2:This is like alpha king of the jungle, like he's got dudes following him. You know he's got dudes following him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got boys following him he's got boys, but they're not involved. We're just saying he's got boys for a reason. I mean his buddies, his back's silver for a reason, brother.
Speaker 2:His buddies are out at the bars getting drunk, doing whatever they got to do, but this guy I mean this silver, his back ain't silver because he's old, let's just say that the alpha is out here. He's getting surrounded by a hundred fellas. I mean so this is a life and death situation. I mean, you got to think like that.
Speaker 1:right, that gorilla's biting. It's like grabbing arms that are coming in to try and hit it and it's just like squeezing and crushing wrists. Right, it's yanking people. It literally might grab a person and and turn it and spin it and hurt or at least knock back a couple other people. But dude 100?
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100? Yep, I don't know I will say after I hear this, I will tell you what Grok said to me. After you tell me your thoughts. I'll tell you what he says to me All right after you tell me your thoughts, I'll tell you what he says to me All right.
Speaker 1:And this is after you tell me this one and the next scenario. So now here's another scenario. Let's say it's like 100 total. But let's say these guys are let's say they're a little dumb and they're like all right, split up do 10 groups of 10. Leroy no, let's say they try to strategize 10 groups of 10. Leroy Chang no, let's say they try to strategize 10 groups to 10. I don't think that'd work at all. No, that's lesser of the strategy of what I was just saying of like 100 total, just being like get him Ground pound, baby. Okay, here's a question to counter that question. If men win man, if man wins how many are left?
Speaker 1:Because, it ain't 100.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1:It ain't 100, brother.
Speaker 2:Oh man, you know what I envision. You know, what I envision when I think of this. You know, you've seen the SpongeBob movie. I want to rock, yeah, yeah. You know, when all of Plankton's minions are jumping on SpongeBob, I just think of that. I just think of that, right. And then when he comes out with a guitar, I'll tell you what. 10-year-old me. I'm fucking jazzed.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's what I envision, I envision. I envision all these hundred guys jumping on this gorilla and then all of a sudden, this fucking jumps out All these guys fucking go flying off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, exactly, and gorilla starts playing fucking shredding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a goofy goober, right. Maybe, I'm going to go with. I would say probably if man wins. Now, if man wins, I would say probably about if man wins. Now, if man wins, I would say probably about I'm going to give us about 17 or 18 alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean gorilla is going to shred through some of these guys.
Speaker 1:Right, especially if they look like me Well dude, how many of them? So okay, here's another question how many of these guys are seriously dedicated to fighting this gorilla? Right Were they picked at random, like is this a government experiment or is this Just a big bachelor party? Is this like a life or death situation? I mean, I know, I guess it is, but like Right Were you put into this situation?
Speaker 2:You know what I mean how many of these guys are just going to say fuck it and bail if they can, right, right, like yeah, especially if you see that one group of 20 guys go up to this gorilla.
Speaker 1:I mean you see a bowling ball effect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you start seeing this and then you're just kind of like you know what, I'm going to go home, exactly right. So so I don't know so many scenarios in this situation, but give me your final, final answer hundred men, untrained men, versus gorilla silverback, gorilla king of the jungle, dude, actually that's the tiger, but anyway, um, who wins? Final, final answer here? Untrained versus grill?
Speaker 1:I don't know, dude, that's literally so hard for me to answer Because all I can think is how many of these guys? At least give me some sort of answer on how many of these guys are dedicated to fighting the grill.
Speaker 2:Because you know what?
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:Let's go with. Is it like they all have to?
Speaker 1:at least attempt to fight no matter what 60-40.
Speaker 2:60-40 are dedicated, they all have to at least attempt to fight. No matter what 60-40. 60-40 are dedicated, they all have to try to fight him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they all have to try to fight him. They all have to try to fight him, so none of them can just run away, right?
Speaker 2:no, these guys are out here on a safari. They need to get the gorilla pelt back to Donald Trump for his office, donald Trump for his office.
Speaker 1:Honestly, dude, unless, like, unless the scenario is so perfectly situated, like, like I said, like already, they're already all like surrounded him. I think it's the gorilla, because of agility, like I was thinking like that thing's gonna be able like maybe even if they're surrounded him with a hundred, it could probably like bust through right to like kind of break up that circle. And then it's like it's it's doing its little run thing, yeah, with it on his own, his fucking right, and like if these guys have to fight, that like, maybe they're, like I said, if it's perfect scenario, and like they're all coordinated and they move together, type thing. But, dude, once that thing realizes it's on, like, I'm afraid it's just kind of a one-by-one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like dude with no weapons.
Speaker 1:That's where it gets to a point If they all somehow manage to, all at once, or like 80% of that conglomerate of man are able to put fucking punishment onto this gorilla maybe, yeah, Like I said, just beat it to death or rip it. Just gorilla it to death with the manpower of fucking 80 guys or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1:But, dude, if not, like I said, if it ends up somehow taking it group by group or one by one, there's not a fucking chance. Unless, like, think, unless they throw Picture you and me right here, right, and this big-ass gorilla just running at even just one person, and we're like we have to get this thing, what are we going to do? Hit it. Like you say we have no weapons, like, what are we actually gonna do? And honestly, I would even say, like a trained man, like I don't know, I, I have no idea about like a trait, like, let's say, like a hundred of like the best heavyweight ufc fighters? Maybe, I don't know, those guys can obviously fucking hit, but still, like, what are they gonna do? Hit?
Speaker 2:punch it. I, I'm considering, I'm actually wrong.
Speaker 2:No, no you're 100 right running through my brain right now. What I would do? First off, give it a little elbow to the nutsack. A little people's elbow, that's what I'm going with. I'm going to give it a little elbow to the nutsack so he's kind of like, oh brother, and then I'm going to rock bottom his ass, throw him down. He's going to get up. I'm going to hit him with an RKO and then he's going to stay down for a little bit. I'm going to give him a little you can't see me A little five knuckle shuffle, boom, straight to the face 50 rocks and 50 John Cena's the gorilla's done for.
Speaker 2:But that's not the average man. Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:That's a different story. That's two superheroes versus one gorilla.
Speaker 2:So your final answer on that one untrained man, gorilla. I'm putting my money on gorilla. Now we got 100 men. They have weapons, spears guns, whatever you want. Okay, and they're trained. We got military down there now. Who wins, that one With guns?
Speaker 1:Weapons and guns and spears, like anything they want.
Speaker 2:Harpoons yep.
Speaker 1:Man wins that one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to give you something.
Speaker 1:I mean they could nuke the gorilla, Right, right. Of course, of course of course they could fucking carpet bomb. Let's take out nuclear weapons? Okay, they could carpet bomb the gorilla, right, right, of course. Of course they could fucking carpet bomb. Let's take out nuclear weapons? Okay, they could carpet bomb the gorilla.
Speaker 2:So, okay, they could drop an atom bomb.
Speaker 1:Or is that the same as a nuke? That's a nuke. Well, they could drop a Pipe bomb. Yeah, they could make a pipe bomb. They could throw a stick of dynamite at it. Sticky bomb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sticky bomb, dynamite at it. Sticky bomb, yeah Sticky bomb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can throw a sticky bomb at it All right.
Speaker 2:here's what Grok has to say. I asked this question who would win in a fight 100 men or a silverback gorilla? Answer a silverback gorilla would likely defeat 100 men in a fight. Thank you. The men are unarmed and untrained. Here's why Strength and power. A silverback gorilla is incredibly strong, capable of lifting up to 1,800 pounds. 1,800 pounds it can just pick you up by your finger, you're gone. Yeah, it could grab you by your hair.
Speaker 1:It could literally think about that.
Speaker 2:Anyone with long hair is done.
Speaker 1:It's grabbing by its hair and it's going to rip with so much force that you're probably not even going to get thrown, your head's just going to get ripped off, exactly. Your scalp's going to rip apart yes, delivered.
Speaker 2:Thank you, grok. Its bite force is around 1,300 PSI.
Speaker 1:I didn't even get started on the bite force, yeah.
Speaker 2:Far surpassing humans, and average men, even in numbers, would struggle to match the raw power. Surpassing humans, an average man, even in numbers, would struggle to match the raw power. Gorillas have thick skin, dense muscles, robust bones. Hey you know what?
Speaker 1:The average US man has thick skin too. Let's not jump past. Especially if you're playing golf, you have to. That's what I'm saying. Let's not jump past men's health, mental health here. Yes, absolutely Okay, go ahead, Especially in a group chat.
Speaker 2:Come on, yeah, got to have thick skin. Got to have thick skin, todd lobbies. Yep, oh God, don't even get me started on that one.
Speaker 1:I won't I won't 2K lobbies?
Speaker 2:Come on, Take it to the ones yeah take it to the ones Take it to the Aggressive intimidation Silverbacks are territorial and can become extremely aggressive when threatened. I would say they're threatened at this point.
Speaker 1:Right, like they're and I'm just jumping in here, but they're going to get naturally more predatory, slash, instinctual ones to fight, especially if you start fucking poking at it. Yeah, territorial. Sticking fingers in buttholes, nut tapping Especially these days we're talking 2025, man, yeah, maybe the 1940s average man.
Speaker 2:World.
Speaker 1:War II greatest generation. Maybe those guys might be able to take on a gorilla, but I don't know about these guys, these days, you know what I'm saying that's what I'm saying hey, maybe 100 of you and me, though that these guys these days, you know what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Hey, maybe 100 are you and me, though that's a different story, but we're not going to get into that, right? We're not here to toot our own horn.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, love it, thank you, love it. Yeah, thank you. And I'm just going to come down to the very bottom combat effectiveness. A gorilla, like we said, can kill or incapitate a man with a single blow, bite or throw. Even if the summon landed punches or kicks, these would likely have minimal effect. The gorilla would tear through multiple opponents rapidly, and its stamina would outlast most untrained humans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, it's so funny to think of the thought of a guy punching a gorilla's back Stop.
Speaker 2:Please stop. You're my friend, hit him. These guys, these little fucking gorillas. They're running around On their knuckles Day and night.
Speaker 1:Dude, I'm saying A chimpanzee Might be able to Kill a hundred fucking Average Unarmed men. Yeah, I'm not fucking fighting a chimp. It's the same Damn near the same shit.
Speaker 2:If I'm forced to go into this, I'm the last fucking man for this gorilla to kill, so that way it's not as bad as the first one.
Speaker 1:So we don't have to spend too much longer on that. But what's a couple of N's? You think that would be a good fight for 100? Because I would think a full. You think that would be like a good fight for a hundred? Cause I would. I would think like a chimpanzee, like a full grown like chimpanzee, yeah, would be Any monkey, any big monkey, any ape like that For sure. Yeah, I don't think?
Speaker 2:I don't think, Matt, a hundred men matches well with any sort of ape whatsoever. I just say, dude, I love orangutans. They're the best Orangutans you ever been to the zoo over here. Oh yeah, that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1:What was that orangutan's name?
Speaker 2:No, that one that died yeah.
Speaker 1:I think she died.
Speaker 2:Oh, the one here at the zoo. Yeah, oh, I don't know, I don't know this one.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're thinking of Harambe.
Speaker 2:That's a gorilla.
Speaker 1:The tan at Rolling Hills over here.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I don't know, I don't know Fuck.
Speaker 1:Rest in peace, though. Yeah.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:For real. But yeah, so yeah, chimp Any type of monkey for sure, but let me think of some.
Speaker 2:A good fight for $100 million. Yeah, what do you think? I'm kind of thinking like a leopard. Maybe A leopard might be some sort of not like a lion, I feel like a lion would probably shred through about 100 men.
Speaker 1:But some of the smaller cats are pretty fucking vicious. A smaller cat that's what I'm saying. Like a smaller cat. It's tough to find an even fight here.
Speaker 2:Right, it is. I mean if you can, because it's like if it's too small you could easily get just outnumbered.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, If it's too big. It's just the same situation as the gorilla, almost.
Speaker 2:Right, and that's why I'm kind of thinking like a smaller cat maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Trying to think what else? Hyena, no, hyena, no, that's too small. I feel like those things are fucking vicious.
Speaker 1:I would almost say a better fight would be one man versus like a hundred, like geese or groundhogs. Yeah, groundhogs can be pretty vicious. I'm pretty sure that's what I'm saying a hundred groundhogs versus one man cause you're stomping quite a few well, you're stomping quite a few unfortunately, there's a lot of that are getting squished.
Speaker 1:You're stomping quite a few, right, you're stomping quite a few, yeah, oh yeah, unfortunately, there's a lot that are getting squished. I like that. Let's flip this argument around. Why doesn't there need to be 100 of us? Yeah, exactly, let's go one man versus 100 bees.
Speaker 2:Should I grok it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, One man versus 100 bees.
Speaker 2:and the man is not allergic to bees. I just say bees you can specify if you want. So I'm saying you know bees they want to use. Let's go wasp, wasp, thank you, because bees, once they sting, they're dead. True, true Okay yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's see so if you're not allergic, yeah, man, a hundred fucking wasps. Yeah, that's Like how do you kill them? Right, your hands are getting stung, if anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're getting stung. No, you're swollen. If you're not dead by the end of it, you're swollen as fuck I mean, I don't know if they're going to kill you.
Speaker 1:I think that might be what it comes down to. Yeah, I don't know, though I'd probably fucking die.
Speaker 2:In a fight between one man and 100 wasps. You want to hear it? Yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, the wasps have a clear advantage.
Speaker 1:Here's why what.
Speaker 2:No. A hundred wasps can overwhelm a single person through sheer numbers. Wasps are highly aggressive when provoked and a swarm can coordinate attacks, targeting vulnerable areas like face, eyes and neck Stings. Each wasp can sting multiple times, injecting venom that causes intense pain, swelling and, in some cases, allergic reactions. Okay, but Even a healthy person could be incapitated by dozens of stings and Incapacitated. Yes, I think so.
Speaker 1:What did I say? Incapitated?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, that's, I got you, brother. Thank you, appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Hey, I love vocabulary. It's one of my many traits, hey respect respect corky.
Speaker 2:I know corky bitch by a dozen stings, and a hundred wasps could deliver hundreds of stings in a short time. Of course, mobility wasps can fly human limitations, a man, even if armed men can't fly, thank you, Grok human limitations, wasps can fly.
Speaker 1:so if we look at, so if we look, at this. So if we compare mobility, all right. Okay but yeah, they sting you a lot, Okay go on Human limitations.
Speaker 2:A man, even if armed with something like rolled-up magazine, no.
Speaker 1:Dude, if I have something I can swat these wasps with, that's not like just my hands, come on.
Speaker 2:A rolled up magazine would struggle to kill or fend off 100 wasps before being overwhelmed. Unprotected skin, especially on the face and hands, would be easy targets. If the person is allergic to wasp venom, the situation would turn deadly within minutes. Of course, Grock.
Speaker 1:We all know that Stupid bitch, thank you. You're Of course, grock. We all know that Stupid bitch, thank you, you're so smart.
Speaker 2:Grock, yeah, so basically Grock, saying that 100 wasps would beat one man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but did it say that though? That kind of just didn't answer your question.
Speaker 2:Didn't it say with no allergies. No, I didn't put no allergies in there.
Speaker 1:But so yeah, it would have an advantage, but like, in what sense? Like would you just pass out because it's so painful, and then they just keep?
Speaker 2:fucking going at you. Maybe, and that's when it's, I don't know maybe.
Speaker 1:Because I guess, like you said, if it like keeps stinging, like your throat, mouth and eyes, so if it keeps stinging your throat and it swells up, because it swells regardless, right? If you're allergic or not, then like, maybe you couldn't breathe, yeah, or which makes sense, I don't know, dude, you give me a rolled up fucking magazine, I think.
Speaker 2:If I know I'm going into a fight with a hundred wasps, I am probably going to take a fucking you know that like at least a fly swatter.
Speaker 1:The boring company fucking uh, fucking you know that like At least a fly swatter.
Speaker 2:The boring company fucking.
Speaker 1:Oh, flamethrower oh.
Speaker 2:Flamethrower.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Elon. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2:Grok yeah, fuck off, Grok.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:Unbelievable, crazy, crazy, what we, what Grok basically, is just saying hey, I wonder if he thinks humans are winning anything. I wonder if he thinks humans are just dumb little bitches.
Speaker 1:What do you think? Let's do one more here. This is just an experiment at this point no. One human man average man versus 100 rabbits. Okay, because I'm starting to think that maybe this AI just doesn't really it's trying to weed out humans. Maybe I think so. You know what I mean. Maybe we 100 bunnies? Maybe that's an investigation for next week.
Speaker 2:All right, here we go. In a fight between one man and 100 bunnies, the man would almost certainly win. Okay, all right, here we go. In a fight between one man and 100 bunnies, the man would almost certainly win.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2:Bunnies, while cute, and potentially aggressive in rare cases.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't have said what I said there about thinking the AI would yeah, no, because it heard me right there.
Speaker 2:You're definitely about to have a drone strike on your house.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I'm saying it heard me say oh yeah. It heard me say oh yeah. It heard me call it out and it said oh dude, he's calling you bullshit, oh humans definitely would, calling you on your bullshit.
Speaker 2:That's what I think.
Speaker 1:Thank you, that's what I think, but I'm not conspiratorial.
Speaker 2:I am over here, this fellow you, sir. I am the conspiratorial Theorist, catherist, I'm a catherist.
Speaker 1:Space, space, the final frontier brother.
Speaker 2:Mr Moon landing Hoax or not?
Speaker 1:You know what I miss Going to the Cosmosphere?
Speaker 2:In fucking elementary school? No, in Hutch. In the Cosmosphere you never been. I've been, no.
Speaker 1:I'm In a men's family school. You never been, I've been. No, I'm saying I just met.
Speaker 2:What I get? You miss it, but you're an adult now. You can go whenever you want to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just yeah, but I haven't been in a while.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe you should get down there dude, I'd love to.
Speaker 1:I haven't carved out the time. I'm an adult, I got shit to do, like you said. Hey, what'd you do this morning? Woke up, brushed my teeth, of course, you know, played golf yeah, how long did that take you? It was like, only like, three. So but why? I'm just saying you could have carved out how long did that take you?
Speaker 2:It was like only like three. So but why? I'm just saying you could have carved out. You carved out time for golf, but you couldn't carve out time to go to all the other fucking.
Speaker 1:I carved out time for this. I could be there right now. You could be there right now. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You want to get smart with me, hey. I'm just saying, hey, the opportunity's there. You hey the opportunity's there, you're just not.
Speaker 1:Would you want to go? I'm down.
Speaker 2:Pod field trip. Maybe I'll go to the fucking what is it called? Again, cosmosphere dude. Yeah, I'll go to the Cosmosphere, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:I'm not taking you. If you don't give a fuck, I'll take someone that wants to go. Well, if you're paying for me, I'm going, I'll pay for you, dude. Yeah, it's like. Actually, it might be a little more expensive we gotta carve out time.
Speaker 2:You understand that. That's the whole thing. I understand that it doesn't seem like it might dip into your golf time.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, I see what you're doing. I understand that. You don't understand that you have to carve out time.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:No, all you're saying is that Take a sip of my Sonic there. All you're saying is that I just choose not to go because I don't want to well, and I just have the thing you're saying.
Speaker 2:I just sit here and like you have other better things. You have better things to do no, I don't think it's that.
Speaker 1:listen, if I lived there at the cosmosphere, I'd fucking love it. I'd go all the time, of course, near the Cosmosphere.
Speaker 2:Of course I mean. It's only 45 to an hour away. It's not like it's. No, I know.
Speaker 1:Still dude. Yeah, 45 there and I can't. I gotta come back.
Speaker 2:Don't you pass over by there every couple days a week? Tell your boss, hey, let's get a putty. I kind of not really.
Speaker 1:Not quite, but I could maybe.
Speaker 2:I could ask my boss if I could get some time off to get a Cosmos beer. I'm just saying final point on this one. I'm just saying you got to be better with your time. Really is what it comes down to. You say you want to go do these things and you say you haven't been in a while but it's just not a priority at this time and that's understood, that's understood. But you can't sit here and tell me oh, I really want to go to the Cosmosphere. I've been forever. I didn't say I really want to go to the Cosmosphere.
Speaker 1:I've been forever. I didn't say I really want to go to the Cosmosphere.
Speaker 2:What did he say about it? Go back, go back.
Speaker 1:I said I really, matter of fact, we'll go back right now here we'll look. You know what I miss Going to the Cosmosphere. I said I miss the Cosmosphere. I didn't say, oh, I really want to go to the Cosmosphere.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey. All I'm saying, all I'm saying prioritize your time, hit the Cosmosphere, tell me what you think.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm there with you, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know. You seem a little upset with me right now.
Speaker 1:Your little one could come.
Speaker 2:Oh, she could.
Speaker 1:She's with me. She's going out there. Take her to space.
Speaker 2:They love that shit, they love space.
Speaker 1:Rockets and all that. Everyone does dude Space is fun. Space is fun. You know why? It's all the hopes, the moon, the planets, discovery, science, all that good stuff, dude.
Speaker 2:All that good stuff. Science is fun, but science is also very easily easy to hoax maybe easy to I don't know what might ever you mean by that. Well, we're going to get into it here. Moonlanding. I've been reading up a little bit on this conspiracy theory of it all. You're telling me you're buying in Well well, I mean, I'm not buying into it, but I got some pretty good sources here.
Speaker 2:You're just laying out, just laying out laying out ideas right I'm just laying out is because I'm not one, and don't get me wrong um I, as shane gillis once said, you're from a show-me state, right you know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1:You're not just going to believe anything you hear on the news.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You got to see where you're on two eyeballs, on two peepers.
Speaker 2:Exactly. So I'll let you start this off here. Let me know, hit me with some scientific facts on how you think the moon landing was real.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh, je was real. I mean how is it not, you know? I mean we went, you know I didn't go per se, but our country did, our country sure did Neil Lance the whole rest of the crew, you know.
Speaker 2:So all this I think a lot of this started was with what was called, uh, the space race. So, basically, science, basically america's like hey, we have all these scientific advancements, technology advancements, we're gonna go to, we're gonna go to space first, we're gonna go to moon first, boom, we're going to stick our flag right inside the moon here. And do you know why? Could it be? Could it be? America doesn't like losing. And could it have been like, hey, listen here, we did it. We have evidence of it, but the evidence is staged.
Speaker 1:So do you know why they were raced into space, brother?
Speaker 2:I don't, brother man, I don't Fill me in, please.
Speaker 1:So we were in this little thing called the Cold War brother. Absolutely and that ain't because it, you know, went on just during the winter. Matter of fact, I think it went on shit 15 winters. Maybe you could say Depends who you ask anyways did we win?
Speaker 1:that war Evan oh yeah, I think we did win that war. You know why? Cause we got to space first, brother. We got to the moon and we said, uh oh, look at us up here. Uh oh, we might be able to drop a nuclear bomb. We dropped a bomb on you baby we dropped a bomb on you, Baby. We dropped a bomb on.
Speaker 2:you Tear me out.
Speaker 1:Lenin or whoever the fuck it was at the time. You know what I mean. Oh yeah, that's why we were trying to get, that's why they were trying to get up there. I think that's one of the reasons For one. Obviously just to show in general, to show dominance. Exactly, america's always wanting to show dominance. Exactly, america's always wanting to show dominance.
Speaker 2:Hey, because I'm an American citizen, love America, yeah, but what I'm saying here is America's going to do whatever they got to do to make it look like they got there first, so they could win this quote-unquote space race Okay, but wouldn't you want that?
Speaker 1:I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course I'd want that Okay. But I feel like we're going to do whatever we want, we're going to do whatever it takes. If it means hoaxing this thing, if it means faking this thing to show the world that we got there first so that way we can insert our dominance and go on with our lives, so I don't know. America wants to win, so bad that you maybe would have faked it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Like a college football coach, that's, you know, on the hot seat. They're going to go out, I don't know, maybe injure a couple of other players.
Speaker 1:they're gonna okay, but hold on now. We didn't just say that we went to the moon, okay, we saw it like they yeah, dude, they broadcasted it. I'm pretty sure there was like live uh feed from the astronauts like called the president about the 1960s baby're talking about the 1960s, baby.
Speaker 2:The TVs I mean were fairly new. They called the president from space. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Dial them up how? The fucking phone in the space shuttle station. I bet that phone number had.
Speaker 2:I bet that phone was like a little tykes phone. They're like hey, listen here you heard them on the.
Speaker 1:There was a broadcast of the president talking to Buzz, motherfucking Aldrin.
Speaker 2:Buzz motherfucking. Aldrin was in a studio down in Hollywood.
Speaker 1:You sound insane dude down in Hollywood. I got sound crazy. You sound insane, dude Down in.
Speaker 2:Hollywood. I got a picture for you, buddy.
Speaker 1:Okay, check this out. What? Oh, I saved this for you.
Speaker 2:What Buzz on set? It kind of looks like hold on. Oh what is it that looks like they're in a building. Oh, that looks like little rafters.
Speaker 1:Oh, that doesn't look like space at all. All right, let's see it, show me. Does that look like space to you, buddy? Okay, yes, there are going to be fucking photos that you can find First off. Who even are those astronauts?
Speaker 2:Who are they, Brother? I'll tell you what, Because listen that could be for a fucking movie.
Speaker 1:Well, dude, yeah, don't well me. How many movies are there in space? That's just two random astronauts and someone just made it black and white, just saying it's a. C-mold and fucking just to counter the argument before you even say it. Even if you find a picture of Buzz or Neil or one of the boys, if that's all.
Speaker 1:I know. Thank you, neil, one of them. If you find either one of them in some sort of like movie set, dude, they had to do fucking propaganda and they had to have pictures that they that nice, clean pictures that they'd be able to use as marketing and all that stuff. Dude, it's the same as like it's. It's. It's the same as like on uh freaking commercials, right, amazon. Uh football stat that commercials. That's not the real game, where he's like stopping and being like oh my god, look, I had a point three percent chance of catching that, like they have to. You know, have it in a set, but it's dramatized. That's the reason you're seeing it on a movie set, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I got more arguments for you on this one. Look I mean bro, there's so many pictures of Okay, okay well let's get off.
Speaker 1:We'll get off On the moon stepping, doing a two-step dancing In a studio One large step for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in a studio, of course.
Speaker 1:Not in a studio dude.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got one for you.
Speaker 1:Okay, we watched the literal rocket shoot from the ground up into the sky.
Speaker 2:That doesn't mean they made it to the moon. They could have gone anywhere. They could have gone fucking just hanging out. They tracked them, we watched them all the way. How did we track them?
Speaker 1:1960s technology ain't gonna track that shit.
Speaker 2:No, it's NASA, it's the 60s, that's only what 60 years ago 65 years ago, when technology was just kind of starting to rear its little head no, dude, no, it was not.
Speaker 1:There was so much. There was so much, especially like tracking, gps, radar type equipment that that was used, being used by the military. At that point in time, bro, it was the cold war. That's what it was about. Baby, spy techniques and lasers and submarines, all that shit, man Okay.
Speaker 2:It was the 60s dude. They were going nuts with that stuff. In these said videos or pictures, it shows the American flag waving here and there. How is that going to happen? With the moon's vacuum atmosphere, there's no way that the flag is going to be moving. It can move, not waving like there's fucking wind.
Speaker 1:I've never seen it wave. If you can show me it waving, but I mean it can like. If there's like video of it just standing alone waving, that's one thing. But if, if the, if the astronauts are near it or something and they're kicking up moon dust or moon rocks or they're bumping into it with their big bulky suits, it can move. And also I read that because of the vacuum atmosphere, if it gets moved, like you know, fucking newton's motion laws and stuff, okay, actually I don't know if that matters, since there's no ground, but regardless, um, if they hit it, because there's not anything that's going to stabilize it, it's going to kind of move around for a lot more than it would here on Earth.
Speaker 2:That's a picture that looks like it's waving quite a bit there.
Speaker 1:That's a picture, and since it looks like it's waving because they put fucking little wires in it so it would stand out straight or else it would just be a floppy it would just be floppy and you couldn't even see whose flag it was, it would look like Puerto Rico's flag, and we don't want that. We don't want that. Exactly, okay, so you agree with me there? They did. That's a fact. They put in wire to make it stand straight, like that.
Speaker 2:To stand straight like make it look like it's waving. Yeah, they like like crinkled it. Oh, that shit's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:It's not ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't do that. That's not my thing. Why wouldn't you do that? I'm smarter than anybody else. I'm a smart boy. Okay, next one you ever heard of Van Allen Radiation Belt?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I know of it.
Speaker 2:So critics argue astronauts couldn't survive passing through the belt's radiation. Okay, how are these guys going through Van Allen's radiation belt and coming back? Okay, unscathed.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. Now who's to say they were unscathed? For one, they didn't say nothing about it.
Speaker 1:For two, yeah because they're not gonna Okay, because, like you said, they're flexing at that point on russia. They're like, dude, fuck it, we did it. They're not gonna be like, yeah, we fucked up our astronauts, even if they did, and they said that the uh, what is it, dude? It was like it's only like 0.18. Let me see, actually, you got your fucking notes out, dude, here, here, here, here, where is it Okay? The Apollo spacecraft passed through the belts quickly, in about an hour, shielding reduced radiation exposure to safe levels as measured by dosimeters Average dose around 0.18 rads, which is far below lethal levels. So that's far below lethal levels. So that's just bullshit. Right there, the uh, the uh levels in the Van Allen belt or whatever the fuck you want to call it. The Gucci Van Allen belt, the Gucci Van Allen belt, it just wasn't, it wasn't enough. And you know what else? You know those astronauts that were just stuck in space for, for fucking ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That just recently got rescued. They got fucked up by radiation because they were there for so long, but they still came back. But did you see that lady's chin? It's all droopy and shit.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't see any of that. I'll show you. I didn't see any of that.
Speaker 1:I'll show you right now.
Speaker 2:So any more bullshit, brother? Yeah, um, of course, um. Some claim 1960s technology was insufficient for a lunar mission such as going to the moon. How, how? Like I've been saying, the technology is not. I mean technology these days, yeah, sure, absolutely, we can get to the moon easy. I feel like not super easy, but pretty a lot, a lot easier.
Speaker 1:Her chin got pulled down through gravity, yeah um, we get there.
Speaker 2:What are you saying?
Speaker 1:what are you saying? They didn't have the technology back then.
Speaker 2:That's, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1:Technology was insufficient in In what way we were dropping nukes. We were splitting the fucking atom for 20 years by then. I'm serious, we were.
Speaker 2:The Soviet Union arrival never disputed the achievement which some find suspicious. Some find suspicious. They never disputed it. They never disputed the achievement. Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:Why did you say that.
Speaker 2:That goes against your argument. Shut up. Shut up.
Speaker 1:It was a space race. If anything, they'd be like oh no, they did not say that. Yeah, okay, they're not the French.
Speaker 2:Well, oui, oui, missing stars in the photo. So some are arguing, some are arguing, some are arguing. I already got this one, dude. I already got this one in the bag. Go for it. Where are the stars in the picture? Some say that it's a studio and that's why there's missing stars.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, like I said, you're in space.
Speaker 2:Where are you going to see? You should be able to see stars.
Speaker 1:Some stars. Okay, now, like I said, space where are you gonna see? You should be able to see stars. Some are in the studio. I'll admit that. I'm admitting that.
Speaker 2:That doesn't mean we did not go even well even the, even the video I, the picture I showed you of the of the flag waving in the in the low exposure cameras, brother. So you're going back on the technology side of it where we don't have very good technology.
Speaker 1:Low exposure cameras because they're on the moon and they have a phone.
Speaker 2:No, it's bright, Can call down to Earth.
Speaker 1:No, dude, it's the same thing Like why can't you fucking see? Also, hold on the astronauts. There's first-person accounts by the astronauts saying when they looked out into darkness, when they looked in areas where the sun wasn't there, there was no other planets giving off light or anything. They said that they saw stars with their own eyes, because science says that human eyes can adjust. But a set exposure on a camera that's meant to capture them. On the moon, on the white moon that's giving off light because the sun's fucking smacking it, they had to adjust the camera settings so they wouldn't be able to see other bright stars out in the background and they wouldn't even be that bright. They would be like faint little stars.
Speaker 2:What about the shadows that people are complaining about?
Speaker 1:There's shadows.
Speaker 2:They look like studio light shadows.
Speaker 1:Maybe they were dude. Like I said, there might be some. Hold on, let me see if I got something for that. Because that's the thing.
Speaker 2:Lighting issues, shadows and photos appear inconsistent with some claiming multiple light sources, like studio lights, were used.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, shadows on the moon are sharper due to no atmospheric scattering of light. How about that? How do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Some people are saying shadows are a little off. Is what they're saying? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It says single source lighting, meaning the sun is confirmed by shadow angles matching the topography. So any shadows that you are seeing could allegedly be explained by the sun of mapping its topography at the time, the moon's reflectors and, if you want to go, do that?
Speaker 2:go fucking do it. The moon's reflective surface and uneven terrain cause complex shadows. Exactly, dude, there's craters everywhere and shit Craters oh, that's another one I got to find Hold on.
Speaker 1:Oh, what now? Oh brother, what now?
Speaker 2:This is off the top of the dome here. Oh, what now? Oh brother, what now? This is off the top of the dome here. Some are saying that there should have been a bigger crater on the moon from whatever landed on it. Who? Who's saying it? I saw it on Grok.
Speaker 1:Grok told me this Grok told me that no, and that's fair.
Speaker 2:They should have been a bigger crater on the moon than what there was. A lot of people are saying there wasn't any so who's to say from a big ass. Probably I don't know how, how big, but um space shuttle whatever it is.
Speaker 1:I mean it didn't come crashing in. It's like there's like really really low, almost no gravity on the moon, right, space shuttle, whatever it is. I mean it didn't come crashing in. There's like really really low, almost no gravity on the moon, right, right, so it would land soft, theoretically right. That's what I'm saying. That one's kind of like who's saying like-?
Speaker 2:But you could see a footprint, but you can't see where a big-ass space shuttle.
Speaker 1:There's no like dust that kicked up from, like the thrusters or anything like that. No.
Speaker 2:But, like I said, you can see Neil's big ol' fat foot, but you can't see where a big-ass space shuttle spaceship, I mean I don't think his footprints like that was there for a while.
Speaker 1:I don't think his footprint's like still there, that was there for a while. I don't think his footprint's still there.
Speaker 2:Well, they're saying they saw his footprint, but nothing about where the space shuttle was.
Speaker 1:How would you see where the space shuttle was? What do you mean so like? If you're so like, they saw the footstep, I'm assuming, like, like I said, it's not there anymore.
Speaker 2:right, the footstep is I'm not sure if it's there anymore or not. I would guess not.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna google okay I'm gonna go ahead and say that they probably saw and maybe recorded it when they were there, but I don't know why they would or how they would get footage of underneath where they landed once they leave, because they would have to leave, Like obviously you could see his footstep once he picks his foot up.
Speaker 2:Neil Armstrong's footprint and the footprints of other astronauts who walked on the moon during the Apollo program are still present on lunar surface. Where's the space shuttle?
Speaker 1:Well then, how's their footsteps up there if there's no space shuttle? Because it's in a fucking studio. But it just said that it's still on the moon. That's what Grok just said. That's what the internet just said Fake still on the moon. That's what Grok just said. That's what the internet just said no one can see that shit.
Speaker 1:It's in the studio so then, okay, okay, then that argument is just a fucking like void, like null point, because it it's either that there's nothing up there or there couldn't be. It's either that there's nothing up there or there couldn't be an astronaut's footprint on the moon and not be anything from the space shuttle.
Speaker 2:Are they just saying that, though? Is Google just saying that, though?
Speaker 1:just to basically validate that quote unquote but ask Google if, say, are there any markings from the space shuttle landing on the moon? Because you said that people think the crater should have been bigger, which is one thing. And then that's when I would argue who the fuck are these guys being? Like, dude, it should be way bigger than that. And I'm like, okay, you're just saying shit. I feel like there are, because then you started to go to like there's nothing there, which is just like I doubt that's the case. But yeah, because there can't be one without the other.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess there could be markings from the shuttle with no footsteps, all right, this is going to fuck up my whole thing here, but I'm going to read it.
Speaker 1:Hey look, if you lose, you lose and honestly, since we're at the end now, if you remember we coin flipped on this.
Speaker 2:We coin flipped on this, so it could have gone either way. What's your real belief here? My real belief is the moon landing happened, okay. My real belief is the moon landing happened, okay. My real belief is that it didn't Really Look at that.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know. I got some questions.
Speaker 2:I do believe it happened. So, yeah, doing this was a little difficult, but we're here. This is going to fuck up my whole debate here. Okay, no space shuttles. The space shuttle did not land on the moon, the space shuttle program was designed for Earth orbit and not for lunar missions. So basically I would assume it just kind of. I don't know just hovered.
Speaker 1:That was my first thought. They just hovered and they just hopped out, right, I thought it landed though.
Speaker 2:Well, I kind of when they said, I mean, at first, when they got to the moon, it sounded like they were like I think they didn't. They say it like we landed or something, and I don't know if that's if that's just them walking out saying that they landed, yeah. I don't know if that's just them walking out saying that they landed, yeah, I don't know, let's ask old Grock here, so why do you think we never went back then?
Speaker 2:That's a very good question, Aliens, you know, giving them a tough time up there, Hitting them with the hey the Super S is stupid as fuck. You know, giving them a tough time up there, Hitting them with the hey the Super S is stupid as fuck, you know. Let me read the rest of this Earth orbit, not for lunar missions. Apollo program, which landed astronauts on the moon, used different spacecraft, including the Saturn V rocket, lunar model and command model.
Speaker 1:What did you ask?
Speaker 2:I asked are there any markings from Space Shuttle on the moon? And it said no. It said no, Space Shuttle did not land on the moon. The Space Shuttle program was designed for Earth orbit.
Speaker 1:No, not Space Shuttle, not Space Shuttle. Yeah, so I got to hear. I think you have to specify Apollo spacecraft. Yeah, because, yeah, this says yes, the Apollo spacecraft landed on the moon and there are clear physical markings and evidence at the landing sites that confirm this. Yeah, because I was going to say the old Space shuttle is the one that's.
Speaker 2:What is this? I don't even know. I don't know, I couldn't tell you I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's why I want to go back to the fucking Cosmosphere dude. Yeah, facts Learn about this shit. But the Apollo Shit man, I shouldn't know this. Is it 14 or 15 where we got man on the moon? That was 15, right, I think so. Anyways, that wasn't the first Apollo spacecraft that landed on the moon Right. Wasn't the first Apollo spacecraft that landed on the moon Right. They landed some up there without having man step all over the moon.
Speaker 2:I want to know how, after 65 years, how we still have footprints on the moon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was not expecting that either, Like how.
Speaker 2:Because, there's no wind, right? Yeah, there's no, as it was a fact. It's like a like.
Speaker 1:They said it's like a vacuum up there so I mean that's when I started to feel like, because you slowly took the argument from um, uh, the initial was like the people think career should be bigger and then you were like there's not even any markets on the fucking road, brother.
Speaker 2:I was like wait, but you're saying there are footprints.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's it. That's it. That'd be a tough side to have unless you really believe in it, which, like I said, I definitely have some questions. Oh yeah, the why we never went back. I looked into that and I mean you can give some pretty good answers and I can't remember if we touched on it, but that's what my mom had asked. Yeah, and she started to be like I was wondering like why didn't we go back? And it's like like there's probably a ton of reasons, but I would think that the main one would be that the only reason we even did it was was because of the space race and then playing off that maybe there's nothing up there of interest, right like we were all just kind of dumb for being like who can get to the moon.
Speaker 1:And then we got there and it was like okay cool, or it just did its job in showing the dominance that that we wanted or whatever the whatever fucking reason they were doing that for. And also it's not cheap to run those missions and it's still extremely dangerous. I think, exactly like we don't even like because she said like or maybe she was saying, but I know, and also it's not cheap to run those missions and it's still extremely dangerous. I think Exactly, we don't even because she said or maybe she was saying, but I know at least an argument is like, which I haven't claimed as kind of an argument for mine but there's rovers and stuff up on Mars, right. So it's like I think there's rovers or there's probably at least a stationary station or something that orbits just the moon of ours, or that's nasa's, that's, you know, collecting whatever fucking data or info they want.
Speaker 1:I know they said there's like asteroids that I think either hit the moon or like will come off of the moon that they can get and study and retrieve so, like, as technology advances, it doesn't have to be as primitive as like we have to land on there and like look and walk on there and see, Exactly like you said, I mean, but it's probably still just dangerous as shit.
Speaker 2:Well, and like you said, like there's really nothing up there that we really like, there's no like. Mars and other places we're looking for like they're looking for, like water and life.
Speaker 1:Right. I think it's more sustainable they say, for human life.
Speaker 2:Right, right, and the moon is definitely not. I would love to go up there. Take a look, right, if you're watching this, if you're listening to this.
Speaker 1:Ross and I are going to force heaven at the moon. Hey, Bezos, you're sending up all these fucking dumb broads up to the moon.
Speaker 2:Exactly, or into space. Why don't you send a couple of boys up?
Speaker 1:there.
Speaker 2:Cause. Baby, we're a fire, you work.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't have called them dumb broads, that was no, I might bleep that out. I mean, it was kind of A couple of them were acting a little obnoxious.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, a couple of them were pretty a little obnoxious, yeah, oh yeah, a couple of them were pretty chill, yeah, but when old katie comes, dude, was it gail that when they were?
Speaker 1:like walking to the space station or back from it with it. I think you're walking to it and they were ringing the bell uh-huh, I think it was gail had this look on her face like, for fuck's sake, like dude, here we go. Can we just fucking then stop? Yeah, katie, was all like giddy and I'm so happy to be back, yeah yeah, that was crazy kissing the ground, taking the flower. I love this earth.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go back to fucking I mean I can idle, I get it, because, not like I would probably feel all those same things, but like I don't know. She was just always seemingly like right in front of the camera with the flower staring, staring like I don't think it was like a phone selfie, I don't know what it was, but like when there's the literal, like earth that you can look at right outside your window and you're sitting here like doing some weird like photo with like a flower.
Speaker 2:It's like it's her screen time, baby do you think they paid?
Speaker 1:they paid anything to do that or were they picked by? Was it Bezos' wife that picked them, or something?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like they said it was, for it was it was. It was to raise awareness for women to start taking up more space. What yeah, I'm like dude, have you fucking? You seen my house Dude, my fiance takes up plenty of space.
Speaker 2:She got shit everywhere. Have you been outside yeah?
Speaker 1:no, that was a fun little dad joke, I just did it. Yeah, I love that Women take up plenty of space. She's got clothes all over the place, shoes everywhere, now just did it. Yeah, I love that Women take a bunny's place. She's got clothes all over the place, shoes everywhere, now, come on, I'm not hating on, I'm not hating on it too much but it's one of those things that's just like whatever. Yeah, it's like okay cool.
Speaker 2:Cool, great, good job man. Can we get the economy going?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, can we do something else. Maybe Is this really what we need to be doing right now.
Speaker 2:Hey and dude, it's so weird that shit like that just gets pumped Another conspiracy that we could think about later on, and this one might be a little hard. But like conspiracy that we could think about later on, and this one might be a little hard, but like it's. One of those things is are we, are we covering or trying to cover up something that's going, that's going to happen, that's going to go down? Are we just trying to throw false or?
Speaker 2:little things like this out there, so that you know distract, distract, what's going on think about that a lot.
Speaker 1:I, I think about that a lot. I mean, I think the answer is probably yes, yeah, I think it's like is there one big thing that's going? On Right Because like obviously smaller stuff happens Like that. You know, like even I think probably like the NFL would do something like that, like Bad Story would come out.
Speaker 1:Right, just try to start pumping out, you know, highlights on instagram and just stuff that people like type thing, but um yeah, yeah, because yeah, you, you look at that and, like I said, and it just gets like pumped out everywhere and it's like who wanted this?
Speaker 2:yeah, who cares about this. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not clearly all this.
Speaker 1:Check my tv to be like oh shit right and and I mean I'm sorry, but clearly all that was going to happen was like these girls were going to get made fun of, right and like you, like I don't know. Maybe that whole entire realm is just so out of touch. Was there an amazon logo?
Speaker 2:on there, maybe, maybe, jeff's trying to go to space with the aliens. Amazon's going to be on mars, amazon is going to be uh. Whatever you need from mars, we got you and I'm not attacking candy bars.
Speaker 1:I think it probably sucks for him because I mean it's not his main thing. But right, elon's definitely the space guy, oh yeah, yeah, like. Elon's like shooting rockets way up, like wanting to colonize mars, landing rockets back on their pods. He's like I sent Katy Perry and Gayle King and my wife to the edge of the atmosphere, poor guy Dude. As soon as it happened, everyone's like not real. Shuttle's fake. It's fake, whether it is or not. It's just so funny that there was so many people that were just like clearly not real. No way, these women made it that far.
Speaker 1:That's why, like if I'm Jeff, I'm just like I'm not doing this shit Like dude, people are going to shit all over this. No one's going to believe it. This is going to cost me $70 million.
Speaker 2:I know yeah.
Speaker 1:That's why I said like, was it his wife? That's why I said was it his wife?
Speaker 2:I was like what's the point, dude? You're already a multi-billionaire.
Speaker 1:Is that the point? It's just like fuck it. Yeah, I got money. I would honestly respect it I think probably the most if the reasoning was like yeah, my wife wanted to go to space.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly. And then it's like okay, fuck it All right, fine, I guess, exactly. It's like okay, fuck it All right, fine, I guess. Didn't you just marry her two years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay cool. Hey, it's not my place to judge.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, dude. Well, that was a fun one. That was fun. No, it was fun, dude Good one. If you will, I got next week's.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was just about to ask.
Speaker 2:Let's go Got it. I said, hey, grok, give me something to investigate, grok hits me with. Why do programmers prefer dark mode? Investigate the conspiracy that light mode is secretly a government plot to burn out coders' retinas and crash the tech industry.
Speaker 1:Ooh, okay that could be a good one that could be a good one. I've never heard that one. I could be a good one.
Speaker 2:I've never heard that one. I haven't either.
Speaker 1:All right, Now I'll say here, just because I'm not, that does seem interesting, but it could also go nowhere. A lot of these could go nowhere.
Speaker 2:We reserve the right to change middle of the week if none of us are finding anything juicy on this stuff.
Speaker 1:If none of us are really, if on this stuff, if none of us are really, if we think this is just that, grok, just kind of fell flat, yep, maybe you could ask like, maybe say, follow that up, just say, hey, give me three options to investigate or three options to choose from and then we can pick.
Speaker 2:Why am I trying to be nice to Grok? I literally said, hey, give me three options to choose from, and then we can pick. Why am I trying to be nice to Grok? I literally said, hey, could you give me three options?
Speaker 1:While you typed that in, I saw something that said. And then I started. I think I was just way too high, but I started thinking of like a deeper conspiracy because I saw this article. I can't remember if I'll remember what the conspiracy I started thinking was, but I saw this article that was like AI CEO. That was like uh, ai ceo, like billionaire, says that um saying please and or customers saying please and thank you to ai models is costing us like hundreds of millions, like energy wasted or something. And then I start and then oh yeah, no so. And then my immediate thing, like I don't know why I started thinking about I was like. I was like, oh, so they're gonna start like really trying to get people to not have extra words and you and like energy wasted and I was like I wonder if the easiest way to do that is going to be to just have that integration of like the elon musk, like, uh, what's the chip thing called in there?
Speaker 1:uh, a name for like his brain chip or whatever. I have no idea, but like I was like what if the easiest thing called Isn't there a name for his brain chip or whatever?
Speaker 2:I have no idea, but.
Speaker 1:I was like what if the easiest way to eliminate waste is to fully integrate humans with the AI, to where it's just like? All you have to do is think? About the AI it's like you don't have to do any of the, please, thank you. Can I do this? Oh, could you do it this way? It's like immediately streamlined, and that was before golf this morning. So I'm fucking like oh, jesus christ, they're thinking what I'm, they this is my last round of golf. Let's not be a cyborg oh shit, all right all right, all right all right.
Speaker 2:so I gave us three good ones, actually actually Okay cool. So first one is the great pineapple pizza.
Speaker 1:conspiracy Dive into why pineapple on pizza sparks such heated debates. Maybe we can even have a pineapple pizza while we do that one. We could try it out, I like pineapple on pizza.
Speaker 2:I never tried it, actually, but I've always hated it, so that could be a good one. Hey, number two why cats rule the internet? Explore the phenomenon of cat videos dominating online culture.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then three the mystery of vanishing socks. Unravel why dryers seem to eat socks. I think that might have to be the one, Bro, this morning.
Speaker 1:Dude, I've been looking for a sock for fucking two years, Bro. I'm getting on Giselle's ass this morning About like where are my goddamn socks? And then, like 30 minutes later, she's coming to me being like being like look how much you stretched out my socks. And I'm like those are mine. And I was like those are like my low ankle socks or whatever. And she's like no, they're not, they're mine. And I was like let me see them. And I grabbed them and like tried to put them on and they were really small. So I was like fine, take them back. So they might have been hers. And I was like where are my goddamn socks, dude? I was like where are they?
Speaker 2:Because I keep having to just buy more pairs and I was like I've worn the same socks for three fucking days because I don't the one. Actually, it might, it might I, I, it is. I think that's the one.
Speaker 1:That's the one that's the one wow, you got me fired up. I'm ready to go now. Yeah, all right. Hey, um, thanks for listening. As always, I hope you liked the debate. Um, yeah, uh, let us know what you think. Yeah, go, did we not go? Did we kind of go? You know what I I mean? Is it all a hoax? Is some of it a hoax?
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Speaker 1:People all around me and they're all in this.
Speaker 2:They don't seem to want me, but they won't admit I must be some kind of creature.