Ep 62: Fictional worlds

Gareth wasn't at all happy when the PickMaster General selected the topic of the top 3 Fictional Worlds that the panel would like to live in. Martin & Andy both saw the topic as a fun challenge and enjoyed Gareth's discomfort as he struggled to get his Accountant's brain to consider fantasy realms. Fair to say that this week's choices see a very wide divergence of opinions.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Three men with three decades of separation debate three tough choices every week. This is the Pick Three Show. Welcome to another episode of the Pick Three Show, where every week our panel are challenged by the devious mind of the Pickmaster General to debate, deride, and frequently dismiss the choices made by panel members. Always remembering that there are no wrong choices, just poorly argued opinions. With three decades of separation between the panelists, there is always plenty of diverging opinion. This week PMG has decided that we will debate our top three fictional worlds that we would like to live in, which does require the panel to undertake some serious thought. Andy already lives in a semi-fictional world of his own creation, where he is the hero. Gareth inhabits Picklebowl Island, where he is the king of the picklers. Whilst Martin is somewhat of a time traveller and has visited many worlds over the decades. Apparently today's subject was sent to PMG by a regular listener. And initially PMG invited the listener to join the discussions. However, they were unable to do so but have sent us a voicemail message for later in the show. So what happens when we have to deal with the wit of Gareth, the confusion of Andy, and the acerbic sarcasm of Martin without the guest upon which to waste it upon?

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Always extra words thrown in, isn't it? Observer.

SPEAKER_04 1:46

Could the guest not find his way here? I'll come back to that. We are recording today's episode at the Arma Planetarium from where we can see a galaxy far, far away, where presumably no one can hear you scream, but if you do, I will record it. Here we are, gentlemen, in the planetarium. This cost me money this time. I couldn't get a freebie here. But surely it's good promotion for them. I slipped 20 quid to Fred, who's the doorman, and he let us in at 7.30 in the morning, and we're here sitting in the planetarium. He's just put on the galaxy picture so that we can actually see it.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

It waited. This was the place as a childhood you always want to go to go. It was a wee bit of a disappointment.

SPEAKER_04 2:36

Well, if you look at the galaxy shown above us on the big round screen and all the rest of it, you can see Neptune, you can see Saturn, and over there you can see Uranus.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

I thought you were going to say something about these are too many galaxies.

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Steal those jokes for later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Actually, we're wasting good humor.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

But your hobs are right. Field trip to go on the arm planetary. You get there, you go, this it?

SPEAKER_04 3:01

I know.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

Lily felt like one room as a kid.

SPEAKER_04 3:05

It's not the Kennedy Space Centre. No, it's not what I'll say.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

But to be fair, sitting back and looking up at the stars, I didn't know what I was looking at, but it was quite relaxing.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Oh, it is. Just try not to doze off during the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Oh, right, okay.

SPEAKER_04 3:19

So today, as we say, we're talking about fictional worlds that we would like to live in. And how did you find this one, chaps?

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Absolutely terrible. The Pickmaster General every week sends down four options. Then this week there was some kind of heavy influence came in where this slipped in and I I didn't actually catch it and went, What is this all about?

SPEAKER_03 3:51

Do you think our regular listeners will, by the end of the episode, have worked out who wants to page this?

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Very easy, who loves fictional worlds, and it was probably frothing at the mouth, waiting for it to go. There's about 20 pages on this album.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Frothing at the mouth is a little strong. Makes me sound like a rabid dog, which on occasion few boys probably think I am. But anyway. Alright. Well, Gareth, it is obvious to me that you have enjoyed this one more than most. You know, I love the research, I do the things, all the rest of it. What is your first fictional world that you would actually like to do?

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Just to clarify, I hated the research of this. And there is so many fictional worlds out there that people are obviously surprised. Very surprised. Like Pokemon World and all that type of stuff. Now, the interesting thing, which did in a minute of contemplation, I don't like to leave it too longer than a minute. Uh I did think I like the world I live in. Yeah. You know, I don't want to live in any other world. And whenever I started to research these worlds, there was always a bad element somewhere, you know, and there's a bad element of this world as well, don't go wrong, but not my world. And you know, there was the you know, like we I've thought about Star Wars, but there was always the bad guys in Star Wars. Uh and I thought about Star Wars, and I thought about Star Wars, and I thought about Star Wars because I couldn't really think of any fictional worlds. So then so then I did the old right. What am I gonna do here? So, but my first one, and I don't know whether it's fictional, but it it is fictional at this stage, and the way I'm gonna look at is based on the film Interstellar. Okay, we're traveling around the planets, and I do find this space travel quite interesting, you know, with Artemis gone up, I've we've now started to see the dark side of the moon from Transformer World. Obviously, it was another place we could have gone to. And I do find it very interesting, and I think I would fit in quite well because my long-term thinking, because I think in decades, not quarters like you, Martin, or animals runs and quarters, profit runs and quarters, and I also like the you know the high-stakes decision making that went on in Interstellar, and then just science leadership and a wee sprinkling of survival strategy, which I you and I were particularly good at and they under the desert island. And we were helping our friends.

SPEAKER_04 6:30

Survival strategy is something you want to have considered suddenly.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

You're I I did laugh when the Pickmaster General sent down top three survival skills. Thought he was trying to wind us up there.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

But Interstellar, good movie. When was the last time you watched it?

SPEAKER_02 6:46

I watched it actually with within the last six months and I love the Interstellar because you know they we we go to Mars and they're all of a sudden, you know, Matt Damon's there. Hopefully I've got this right, Phil. Matt Damon's there, and that is interesting. That's the Martian. No, no, no. In Interstellar, they visit Mars and Matt Damon is there as on Mars.

SPEAKER_04 7:08

Really? Yeah. And it's really well brought in. And it's actually I think I managed to stay awake in Interstellar until the big wave.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Well, no, no, very good now. So I would recommend it. So that visiting other planets, fictional world without the Star Wars going on. I quite like it.

SPEAKER_04 7:24

So hang on a second. Sorry, I'm very confused here because Matt Damon was trying to get off Mars for most of the Martian.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

But then he was there. But I'm not going to ruin it. But it's really good and you'd really enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

I'm going to just check it out on a computer afterwards and watch the whole movie.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Or read the story. Yeah. I'm more interested in Garis' other two pixels is third. Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 7:44

So well, I mean, again, what I like is the fact that his perfect little world, the the world around him, doesn't impact his perfect little world. He likes his little world. I like my little world. You don't like the you don't like change. I do. I'm very good with change. Well, you you not really, because anytime I tell you where we're having to go to record, you always do a bit of gurning. Ah, I I'm gonna struggle to find that. I'll throw it. Maybe I'll drive past it and not actually see it.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

That could appear in a future podcast. Top three things that ruin your mood. I'll be a good podcast, actually.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

That would be a good podcast. We should think about doing that one. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

Stay tuned, listeners. Very much so. There might be a long list, it might be top ten.

SPEAKER_04 8:24

Okay, so you'd like to be on a spacecraft with how many people? How many people do you have to do?

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Oh, plenty of people. Plenty of people. I don't do the loneliness thing. Do you not? No.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

I like to sometimes. Do you think you're actually a contributor to company? Yeah, what's your company? You're an additive. Oh, totally. You're not a negative. No. You don't suck. I enjoy company. You don't enjoy the joy out of a room.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Yeah, no, I know.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

We know a few people that are though. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Well, let's not talk about it. Sounded like they were starting to gang up listeners.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

Which always worries me slightly. Do you know I don't worry about them individually, but when they gang up, they can be troublesome. It's like having it's like having a pair of toddlers and you're in the supermarket and they go in different directions. You know it's not going to be good, whichever one you don't go after. The other one's going to cause the chaos. So anyway, over to Gareth's partner in chaos, young Andy. Which fictional world would you like to live in?

SPEAKER_03 9:22

Whenever the Pickmaster General sent this down, straight away my mind went, I'm purposely not picking sci-fi type Star Wars ones. I'm going to go fictional world that we all know that you probably go, actually, I haven't heard of that for a while. My fictional world third one is Walford. EastEnders? East Enders. The fashional world of East Enders. Wow on Earth. As a hear me out. As a kid, I used to be fascinating. You know, in the the olden days of four channels, you probably'll say two channels or whatever, Martin.

SPEAKER_04 10:00

When I started, yes, two channels was it.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

But East Enders was always it was on, I was on the background. I used to be fascinated with people who lived in a street where there was a bar beside them, a little cafe beside them, a mini mark beside that. Street market. I used car dealership there, and everything was in this little stone throw of each other. I used to love that. As a kid, I was like, that's where I want to be when I grew up. I want to be somewhere where everything is in front of me.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

So where do you now live?

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Nowhere near banger stuff. Bit similar. Oh no, no, the big city of Bangor. Banger is a bit similar. You were through it the other day, impressed. I wasn't impressed. But Walford, and I haven't watched East Enders in years, so some of this stuff might have changed, but it was the simplicity of it all. Every day, the people went over, didn't have breakfast in their own house, had the new wee calf, had their cup of tea, sit there, moaned about everything that was going, were on their wee market stall. Always had to get over the used car dealership, although you never seen anyone driving. And then you see them with the Queen Vic later that night having their pint after it and all. If you compare that world to the world of Coronation Street, was a Weatherfield, it just it had similar, but it just didn't have the same ambience for me.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Yeah, did it have the same atmosphere?

SPEAKER_03 11:20

No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Sort of close atmosphere.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

That was it. So Walford, my number three. Martin, were you a fan of East Enders in your project?

SPEAKER_04 11:27

This may come as an enormous surprise to both of you, but I loathe everything about East Enders from the characters to the location to the concept to everything about it is everything that's I still I bet you could name three East Enders characters. Of course you could, because they they've been in the lexicon for over 30 years now. So of course you're going to be able to mention Angie Watts or Dirty Den or Ian Beale or Grant Mitchell or he knows a few, you know.

SPEAKER_03 12:03

Or Sharon. Stop, stop, stop, burden, stop.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

But the point is But the point is I hate every one of them. There's not a single character there. And if you actually look at their story orcs and you want to live in a world that is, let's be honest, unremittingly miserable.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

But there is no threat of well, there is a threat of violence. But in that little idyllic world, I think I would be quite happy. I wouldn't cause trouble. You would be the confrontational type within Walford. You'd be in the Queen Vic. I wouldn't be there. You would be you would be trying to run the bar.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

No, not a chance. Well, you know, for a lot of listeners out there, you know, the good description of what Martin looks like would be Grant Mitchell.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

Yeah, he does, yeah. Yeah. Grant Mitchell with less hair. So number three, Walford.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

I cannot believe we are debating.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

It's actually quite a good fancy world. You explained it really well.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

That that compactness. Of course. And do you know what? He Martin is going to go into detail about worlds where there's orcs and multi-worlds and creatures and all.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

He doesn't like people. There's too much mixing for him. I think so.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

Without further ado, well, no, I'm just I'm just staying in uh at least for a second. Simply on the grounds that I understand that it's been a very popular programme for a long period of time. It's still going, isn't it? Yeah. But it isn't let's be honest. You say you haven't watched it in a long time. Gareth, I suspect you're not a regular watcher. It's miserable. And people, I think they watch it to make feel better about their own lives. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

That's a good thing then. Is it?

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

We we all pay, obviously, with our license fee and BBC to uh contribute to that.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

And obviously it's still successful.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

It must have passed through generations as well.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

I think so. I think if some of our listeners are having asked to message in with current plots of East Enders.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

It's a very good methodology. Now I wish I had gone to Ramsey Street.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

Oh well, you can still get time. Would that have been made your list?

SPEAKER_02 14:09

It would have because of like a crucially fond memories of university.

SPEAKER_04 14:14

You're still not going to date Charlene, I'm telling you that.

SPEAKER_03 14:18

Kylie and Jason. What a double act. Or Jane.

SPEAKER_04 14:22

I'd like to apologise for my colleagues drifting off into their adolescence.

SPEAKER_03 14:26

Or there was the Home and the Way one. Is that what all called?

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Forget what that was called. Sharping Bay. No, it wasn't Burning Bay. Sunrise Bay. Summer Bay. Summer Bay. Never watched an episode of it in my life.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

I liked Humin' the way for a while. In a way, it was slightly, it was different. Everyone loved neighbours, so you got something else through. You did. I loved that.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

What was the name of the Tom and Peppa? Peppa. Peppa. Yeah, that's it. They had adopted all the children.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Alf. No, I've never seen an episode in my life.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

Big Alf. Alf the shopkeeper. He was more of the Sullivans. Yeah, he was the Waltons.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Do you want this?

SPEAKER_02 15:04

You've done a you actually have ticked out up really well. If I hadn't known that direction and thought that way, do you know it's gone the Waltons?

SPEAKER_04 15:12

It's occasionally inspiring to me to watch intellect over any Andy's intellect where he actually thought about the problem, whereas you just went and went, what can I come up with? Because this one. No. So again, Andy's intellect took him in a different direction. That's good. Another compliment here, intellect.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Right, listeners. Right. Here we go. Lord of the Rays, Hobbit.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

No, it's not me as number one.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

Gentlemen, I take you to the wonderful world of Wakanda. Oh, Black Blood. Oh, it's a Panther country, fantastic, technologically advanced, well protected, unseen by the wider world. They're not even quite sure where it is. It is a world of fascination, loyalty, passion, and realistically, the level that people live at there is way beyond the wider world. And yet they are peace-loving people until they're not. Until they have to join forces and come out of hiding effectively, because they've hidden themselves from the rest of the world. But Wakanda in its heyday, advanced over everything else, left alone, silent, beautiful. Why could you not want to go and live in a place like Wakanda? I I've never seen the film.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

But have you be would you get the vibrinium?

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Given half an opportunity, I I would be very keen to be in in charge of the mining operation, but there's a very limited amount of it.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Vibrinium, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Only reason is I searched that up yesterday. So uh Wakanda fits very much into that Avengers universe, they call it Marvel.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

I did contemplate Asgard as a location because Asgard again, you know, it fits in with my nickname being Thor. And uh, you know, it it would be the obvious place to go within the Avengers world, but uh no, Wakanda is more fascinating, I would think.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Yeah. I've never seen the film, so I can't really comment.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

It is a surprisingly strong entry in the Marvel franchise, which has been well, what could only be described as on the slide for quite some time.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

I was uh looking for movies the other day because Jake loves all the Hulk stuff. I was amazed the Avengers the was the last one was like 2019, the one before that.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

There are something like 28 Marvel movies from within the franchise, of which some are excellent and some are absolute pants.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

What people tend to do, and you might have done this, Martin, is they watch them in the sequential order of what happened in America in the 1930s, and then there's a way because they're all linked in the multiverse of the movie.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

That's the bit where I lost it.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

It's Spider-Man Marvel.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

Yeah, but he was originally the difficulty was he was originally the rights were originally owned by Sony. Right. And so they couldn't originally come into the Marvel universe, and then they because Sony Pictures held the rights to you know Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

I was in cinema the other night and uh it was advertised.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

There's a new Spider-Man movie other way. The thing about it is that again once they introduced the multiverse, you remove Jeopardy. You remove the fact that characters would actually die and couldn't be brought back from another verse. You know, and that just ruined it. As far as I was concerned, there has to be jeopardy. You know, you have to risk losing your heroes to make the to make the movie worthwhile. So a lot of the earlier movies are way better in my opinion than some of these later ones, and also I I do get tired of interminable fights done under special effects, and it's just lots and lots of crashy, bangy, slappy, wallopy, uh, without too much actually happening. However, the worlds they create can be fascinating, and that's why I picked Wakanda as a technologically advanced is it a good film to watch? Black Panther, the first one, excellent. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

I do what there is, uh you hit the nail on the head. It's it's hot and cold with some of those movies. Oh, it's dreadful, but so the good ones are very good, yes, and you can actually watch them repeatedly.

SPEAKER_04 19:29

You see, when you built up and got to the first Avengers movie, yeah, it was great. Yeah, I loved the first Avengers movie. They're in New York, they're rallying around, you know, to defeat Loki and the aliens, and they're they're doing all of that and they're a team. Thereafter, it all just they just try too hard.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Yeah, and that and that's why the Avengers movies were gonna be the biggest gruesome ones. And I looked, it was like Age of Ultra, and then there was Endgame, they're like seven or eight years between each other, right? YouTube's very poor by comparison.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

I can hear I can hear the switches going off. No, I like I do well.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

I like the Avengers stuff. It's and I actually I love the Thor Ragnarok movie, that was incredible.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

It it's much better than uh what was the other one? Dark Tower or something.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Okay, you two are born the life out of me. All right, let's move on.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Alright, let's move on to another of the great worlds because so far you picked I'd like to be in my own we world, but if I wasn't in my own we world, I'd like to go on a spaceship.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Well, I'm going back to my own we world, and I do think it is f a fictional and fancy world now, and that is my 80s teenager years. Okay, so it is and I'm not saying my, I'm saying I'm talking about 80s teenage years in j in general, and uh you know I'm sure you've seen this sort of uh trend where people post or you know, like little memes which says this is what we did in the 80s. And the truth is that will never be seen again. That that it is a fictional world now.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

But we had freedom.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

We had freedom, we went out nine o'clock in the morning, responded to a whistle to come back for dinner or lunch, and then out again, done everything was so much more simple. TV didn't take away. Oh no, well that was that late. Oh, my dad had the an unbelievable piercing whistle that go miles.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

As we say, it's a lot lost art.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

It is a lost art. My dad was the same. Yeah, he would call us in off the streets. Off the streets, sounds like we were out there in the wild. Yeah. Call us in off the street uh with a whistle.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Yeah, and I and I so I do think that world has been lost, and I feel really sorry for kids that they're missing out on the and I'm just gonna call it adventures that we all had. So, therefore, whenever I thought of this here, I thought it was like I really struggle with fantasy world, but this now has become a fantasy world that you will say this is what the world was like. It was absolutely amazing. Uh, we had great adventures. Great friendships, none of this you know, constant communication that was going on between individuals. And to tell you the truth, sometimes communication, 30% of it, can be bad, and I I think that bad communication back then didn't happen, whereas now it's increased uh on on things. So I think it's a fantasy world.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

I'd love that people could go and experience it what we did. If you said to someone a hundred years, well no, I've seen it's a hundred years from now, someone looks back and goes, These people used to run around doing within 10 years of mobile phone technology that close and actually had freedom, there was no tracking, people go, I couldn't believe that.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

I get like I we we were chatting the other day, and as I was saying, I used to walk into Newcastle from wherever, and I was 10 or 11 years old. Like, would you let Lily walk now into Bangor by herself?

SPEAKER_03 22:54

It went the uh completely the other way. I used to and this sounds so valid. I used to be sent round to our local shop probably from about the age of seven or eight. Yeah, it was maybe a 20-minute walk, fire lighters. I remember once getting cigars from my dad because he knew the shop owner, and he's like, You're wrong, my son's gonna come around, no problem. Coming back with cigars, there you go. And I was like, Did your brother go with you to keep you company?

SPEAKER_04 23:15

Sometimes that's alone time.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

I saw 20 minutes, it'll take them 20 minutes to get to the shop. Cigars, I'll need a cigar.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

It's mine is the colour per mo and dad. Listen to this.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

Yeah. But I saw I saw I saw a kid who was 10 or 11 at the bus stop yesterday, and you know, thought you'd obviously been playing football with his mates and had travelled or waiting to get on the bus.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

I thought, you never see that anymore. Yeah, funny. I was listening on the way up to the Rory McElroy book, and his mum they tell a bit of the story and it just turned 10 years old, his mum sent him to Utah for a summer to live with another family over there to practice his golf. I could l Lily's ten, I couldn't imagine her even going through an airport security, never mind living on her own for some.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

It was a completely different time in the 70s and 80s. There was a complete level of freedom. Your parents trusted you, you were some common sense. We used to arrange football matches just by saying the day before that's right, we'll be at the playing fields at 10 o'clock, yeah, and maybe 25 people would turn up. Yeah, and you'd play football for two hours and then you'd go home. Yeah, yeah, and you'd say, We'll play again on Thursday. And another 20, 25 people would turn up on Thursday. None of this constantly messaging or anything else. But it's like and have a wash, yeah, you know, and in fact, drank out of a hose. Yeah. Uh all those sorts of things, the things that these days, oh no, that water mightn't be clean, all the rest of it, we go in it's the end of a football match.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:49

We're thirsty.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Yeah, good. And so I think that fancy that is a fantasy world now. And if I could give the gift to my kids to go to that fancy world and experience it for even a week.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

Yes, but would they know what to do? That's the stupid thing, is they're not conditioned the way we were. They would go there and go, this is all a bit primitive, I don't really know what to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

But if you uh you if you put someone who lived in the eighties at their those people who were born in the eighties.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

No, but do you know the point I'm making is explain to them we that was the life we had, not the life we were being gifted and said, go go go just do that, put your phones down and for two weeks just just go play, just go run around, just go have fun, just make up games, climb trees, climb trees, do very climb trees, don't be ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Climb trees we were going up. Oh, yeah. Like the people now would have the yellow viz jackets on and everything. We used to meet, I was thinking.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

We used to pass cats waiting for rescue on the way up the trees.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

I know, but you might like we used to meet guy live three doors down from us, Russell Beggs, meet at his house. Begsy Begsy, actually, that's okay, seven o'clock. But it was like, right, we're gonna play hunts, so each you take your teams, there's maybe ten of us teams of uh two, and you just head in people's gardens. I know thinking back now, I go, Imagine you open your curtain to two kids in your garden, you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

But but but the other thing is parents embarrassed. Who embraced it then? Oh, it's parents wouldn't embrace it. If someone's in their garden, now you go, What are you gonna get out of that type of stuff?

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Or you kicked a ball over, you climbed in, you jumped out, there was a dog around the ride.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

Yeah, right. Okay, yeah. No, I I I think it's an interesting debate. It's not really a fictional world, but I it is a fictional world, it's gone now. Uh true, it's a historical world. It's no different to Who Kanda. It's very different to what can be trust me.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Well, why I like this, our listeners, if we had had Martin with first pick and he went Wakanda, we'd be moved buttons turned off. I know. We go Wolford, we go Interstellar. There's a good mix here. It's not just your traditional sci-fi worlds. Andy. That that being said, here we go. That being said. Number two, the world of Thundera. Where? Thundera, where the Thundercats used to live. I thought that was what it would be, but No, you've probably stole some of my Thunder, no pun intended, from Thundera. From Thundera.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

But actually, it was Was there any fun to be had in Thundera? Oh, there was some fun, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:11

Or was it spelt the Thundera? F-U-N. No Thundera Thundera, okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:15

Yeah, but you can have fun in Thundera. Oh, right, okay. But part of the beauty of this. Fando Bally's latest release.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Yeah, that would be. Part of the beauty of this was it was 80s and it was TV, and you've seen these little cats and this creatures and all. I I used to love this. As a kid growing up, you would fire, and it was always eight o'clock or seven thirty before school, you was fired on for 20 minutes. You'd watch it, this is great. Just this little world. Now, when you look back now, I watched an episode on YouTube last night. All they are doing is being hunted by these creatures repeatedly who are much bigger, much more sinister and all. But part of me actually, ah, it's quite good every time there's a chance. I looked at the the worlds of He-Man and a world of eternity, but I thought, nothing. Did they die? Any of them died? No, they went to another planet after a while. It was very underwhelming. Like a lot of these 80s shows, the budgets ran out a little bit when they they they peaked with all the toy sales, and then they dried up, and then they just filtered. Story was never their objective. It was always who can sell more toys when Story was never the objective. That's great. There's there's these lovely programs on Netflix about how He-Man was formed, and you go, Oh, this is great. Like some really good writers writing about this.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

Was it not one of mummy He-Man and a Debbie He-Man loved each other very much?

SPEAKER_03 28:33

It was two guys sitting in a room from Mattel. I feel like taking their tablets in it. I just got to sell it feel sorry for Deb tonight.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Oh, the ROM comms being turned on. I could see, I could hear the par switch going on the electricity already.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

But Sundara Mumra was the creature that they were terrified of. Mumra, and he turned in a couple of different forms. But I used to love it as a kid, thinking, I would love just to live there. And you live in like their the the cat's lair was called this big sort of robotic sort of palace type thing was probably the easiest way. But there's different ways you shoot down little slides and all. Fantastic. Throwing up a th fur ball every yeah, that's the other side. They're all cats, by the way. But you only realised that in sort of later episodes and all, but it was great. I loved it.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

So the fictional world that Andy would feel most comfortable or second most comfortable in.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

Second most after Walford, Dundera, Grant Mitchell, Mumra, that's a link on a podcast you don't want to see.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

So you won't see it very often. So if something ever happened to Nicole, we'd go around Andy's house and he'd be living with all these cats and there'd just be a complete smell of cat you're eyeing off.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

No, yeah, I have to say, I was never a cat person until years ago as this three-legged cat lived a couple of doors died. Not lucky. No, Morris. Morris, I called him. Lucky.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

But he was great name for a cat by a great name for a three-legged cat is tripod. Tripod.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

People kept saying, I must be tripod. I was like, no, it's Morris. I was like, good. So yeah, Thundera number two. Now it could have been number three, but I thought Wolford. I like Wall, I was very good.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

I'm looking forward to number one because our number one's good.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Actually, our listeners our listeners will go, ah, see, he's very clever. Onto your number two, Martin. There we go.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

Here is no surprise, gentlemen. You've been waiting for this, but it only comes in at number two. What? Only comes in at number two, and that is Middle Earth. I simply couldn't leave it off the list. J.R. Tolkien's famous land from within Lord of the Rings. It is an awesome place with an awesome story, with a whole range of landscapes and vistas and places to be, whether it's the Misty Mountains, whether it's the plains of Rohan, whether it's Mordor, whether it's the Shire, whether it's any of these places. But I do see myself more as an elven prince with some serious archery and horsemanship skills. Orcs would fear me if I was living in Middle Earth.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

You're looking at me whenever you're talking this here as if I have one clue about what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 31:06

The only thing you know is the word orc makes you chuckle. For some reason. And you assume everything I watch or read about will have orcs in it. Exactly. You know, and you know, but it doesn't. And interestingly, some of the listener comments are very much in agreement. Oh, I wonder why. They are the Dungeons and Dragons Club that you said they must have.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Yeah, the the the Nerds or Urst Club. Yeah, they were the ones that the boys got slapped on the way past the corridor. That's true, wearing their cloaks.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Anyway, interestingly, there is a new Lord of the Rings movie in production at the moment that is not interestingly to me.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

No, I didn't think it'd be. Are you worried it'll be at the same level as the others?

SPEAKER_04 31:48

I'd be happy if it was at the same level as the others and was a new story within it. I think there is a perfect trilogy, and I don't think that the Hobbit that followed it, the three movies was anything like as good, even though it was well made. I didn't think it was as good, whereas the the original three are just awesome. We were recently talking to a New York Times best-selling author Alan Shipmuck, and he's a huge Lord of the Rings as well. You boys are in a minority in thinking that this is not a great world.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

Where's the closest place to Middle Earth within the world at the moment? Looks where are the films and all recorded?

SPEAKER_04 32:32

A lot of it. And New Zealand, uh which I've been fortunate to visit a couple of times, is an awesome place. If I was if I was able to transport uh my family and friends and the people I cared about anywhere in the world, I would choose either Canada or New Zealand. Where are we getting in that one?

SPEAKER_03 32:48

We can do that, we can do this over the internet. We'll save that for another.

SPEAKER_04 32:55

You know, you you don't have to be in the Arma Planetarium with me for us to get this recorded.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

But so why didn't you like uh The Hobbit as much?

SPEAKER_04 33:07

I just thought it was through this misery. I watched the Hobbit what's a retread? Do you think it's a money? It's a small story made into a huge tale, which doesn't really warrant the extra time on it. Whereas the original story covered the original story much better.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

See when the and this is going back. So the first Lord of the Rings movie came out. Was the next one a year later, the next one yesterday a year? Was it that? Were they all recorded at once and just well they were they were recorded as a rolling program?

SPEAKER_04 33:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

They're all filmed at once, weren't they?

SPEAKER_04 33:39

They were recorded as a rolling programme. I'm sorry, yeah. Do you know it's really it's really quite difficult. You must have dozed off just at some point there.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Is this your hardest one yet? Oh, it's the worst.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

I'm not going to the listeners will make their own calls, but that is my choice. Gareth, what is your number one choice?

SPEAKER_03 33:56

The listeners are waiting here.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

What fictional world are we now going into? I really struggled with this here. We've noticed it. Yeah. So you're really quite good.

SPEAKER_04 34:08

You're full of energy, you're full of ideas, a little bit of research.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

I wish I wish I'd thought of Andy's way of the summer bay and uh Ramsey Street and that type of stuff. But I am going to take another one, which is which I do love. It's the world of suits. The show suits. Because I quite like that because it sort of fits my personality, you know, negotiation, uh negotiation position. It's hard to negotiate if you can't even say it. Leverage, commercial, legal overlap, me and Harvey would be best mates. So uh dressed up that way.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

I disagree. I think Mike is his best mate, and I don't know. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

I definitely would take over. I know that there. Harvey and I would be rocking it.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

But Harvey'd be wars. Harvey'd be warning you every day on the way out. Leave Donna alone.

SPEAKER_03 34:56

True. Do you like a do you like a world of highs and all?

SPEAKER_02 35:01

And like I enjoyed it. I don't want to go back to it. That was my my previous role was a wee bit like that.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

And obviously, I I for an accountant so much more interesting. Windswept an interesting accountancy you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Don't forget, we bought about five or six companies, you know, set seven companies actually. So I did like that type of stuff, and I'd be able to sort of you know help Harvey along, you know.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

That's my world. The world of suits from that first episode where Mike comes in and does the Harvard test, it starts well and builds. Oh, it's it's a fantastic series.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

The early seasons are very good. I loved it. And then it goes off. No, it blips for one season but then comes back.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

I think it finished quite strongly.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Yeah, I thought it did. I lost interest in it after a couple of seasons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

You ever look back and go, You wish you had it on law instead of the accountancy world? No, definitely not. No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

My mind was sort of law and accounting seed.

SPEAKER_04 35:59

Noah is not like that. You don't settle every case by the fact that Gareth suddenly turns up on a legal precedent, the other side have missed. Yeah. And there we go. Oh, case one. Millions of dollars. But that's a good thing. Harvey always won.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

The FCA stuff started. That was the bit where it got a little bit off the board. Too much into like American culture. Like, I don't really understand the ins and outs of that. But but yeah, I get like Suits is a is a great show. That world though, fast paced, no time off.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

Yeah, on it. Am I wrong in thinking that you're more Lewis than Harley?

SPEAKER_02 36:32

No, you're more Lewis.

SPEAKER_04 36:33

Lewis than you.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

I'm surprised you put that out because you're you know those wee jokes that you come out with and all that he nosies Lewis as well.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

Gentlemen, moving to Andy's number one choice. Number one choice. Seahaven Island. What does that mean when you say the Truman Show? Oh right Seahaven Island, the world that Truman is born into that thinks is real. Everything about it, Americana as it was in the 50s, the little diners, the cars peeping to say hello to people and all love that. That little world of America in the sort of 50s and 60s is just I love that and actually crave that. And actually there is a few places in Florida still have that. But that movie I watched it maybe six months ago, I was thinking this is this is this is the bit that people miss. It's that little communication every day, it's that little bit of interest, but Sea Haven Island from the Truman Show.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

It's a film I have never seen.

SPEAKER_03 37:44

It's a good film.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

So uh I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

It's a film I've never liked. Oh, really? Why because I think the concept of it where there's only one person who doesn't know the true story, and everybody else is an actor and goes home, it's it's kind of cruel.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Oh, it is cruel, and I think that's part of it. It builds up to a level where you go, Oh, this is great, he's happy and everything, he realize everyone's actors and his family and all that. But I think that's part of it. I quite like that.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

Yeah, but that was I think the bit where I thought, you know, it's you've got a whole TV network purely on exploitation, but the exploitation of one individual who's unaware.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

But do you not find it? It does happen now, like there's not there's not Jury Juty or something, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Yes, I've just finished watching Jury Duty, which is why I think and the end he took it quite well. Yeah, he did, yeah. But the reality is, you know, what you put them through, that's fine. All the actors are being paid, and he got paid at the end, but but it's no different to Jeremy Beatles. Beetle's about it.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

But do you know what? This was the Truman movie was out late 90s before the culture reality TV kicked in across the UK. Now people are made as celebrities based on Instagram accounts, they're celebrities based on not actually having any value of society.

SPEAKER_04 38:59

And has it added probably not to society?

SPEAKER_03 39:02

No, but that's why I think it's a it's a great like that little town that he was built, brought up into and the whole thing around.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

I just love that little Americana, and there's probably other worlds which are similar to that, but for me we do we do love watching other people's lives. I'm just talking about my married at first sight Australia addiction. Uh but look at it even simply back whenever Gillette Soccer Saturday, we were watching people watching a football match.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to look at it.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

And so we so we we have liked it.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

Yeah, think about the early years of the Truman show. It started when he was born.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

So they were he was the only one. The first five years must have been dull as dishwater. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

But do you not uh what I love about dad looking at, and there's probably people who've researched this in the nth degree of how society has gone down that route. We are not a million miles away from going, we're starting a TV show now, or a YouTube channel of watching his kid grow up, and you're gonna watch graduation, you're gonna watch his first job, and everything is recorded through his vision, through their stuff. That is probably not a million year miles away.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Well, do you remember what it was a million years or a million miles, Andy?

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Pick one.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

Both pick one.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

Remember the BBC experiment, was it seven up and thirteen up?

SPEAKER_04 40:18

But that was they went back every seven years. Yeah, yeah. It w and every seven years they uh interviewed, and there were a couple of really sad stories in that. Yeah, that was not a comfortable watch. Did was a kids commit suicide? Uh certainly that was not a particularly happy experience. You should watch a dream show.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

It's a fascinating thing, and actually, when it was out within its time, it was seen as this is never gonna happen. Yeah, now you watch it and you go, There's a lot of this has actually happened. Not the sound like three old men ranting about technology again.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Martin, you're number one. And if Florida Rings wasn't number one, what is it?

SPEAKER_04 40:56

Well, here are the honourable mentions, the ones that got considered uh Pandora. Where's that? That is Avatar, the the original. True, I didn't think of that myself. Jurassic Park, the opportunity to go back and see that a couple listeners said that. Sherlock Holmes's Victorian London.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Jack the Rapper floating around, no chance.

SPEAKER_04 41:18

Yes, that's what I kind of actually put me off at the end of the day. So my number one choice is Harry Potter's world. I am definitely a Gryffindor. I'm probably captain of the Quidditch team and a magical force to be reckoned with. I think I would be an excellent now. You see, if I was the sorting hat, I would look at what's getting if I was the sorting hat, I would put Gareth into Hufflepuff. Slytherin? No, he's not a Slytherin. He's not, he's not actually, that's not in his personality. But as the Sorting Hat would say, I would look at Andy and go, mmm, tricky one.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

We've got a Sorting Hat at home, actually. The talking ones.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

I think you would be Ravenclaw, which nobody ever hears anything about, particularly they just they're kind of in the book because you're not evil enough to be a Slytherin. I quite like Slytherin, actually. Well, it doesn't matter that you quite like them. It's you know, it's just I just don't see you as a Slytherin.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

It does have that albino look.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

Well, a little bit. But anyway, imagine the Harry Potter world where you can do all of those sorts of things and there would be magical creatures flying around and all the rest of it. Is that not fascinating to you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Harry Potter hasn't been in the narrator for a while, but our ten-year-old loves it. So over the last year and a half, everything is Harry Potter. That's right. Every Easter egg, Harry Potter. She opened it recently and there was a Draco instead of Harry, she wasn't happy.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

She got a Draco Malafoy? Yeah. In her Easter egg? Yeah. Must have been a Nestle egg. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 42:49

They're always rubbish. Well, there's stuff inside Easter eggs, wasn't there, man? Oh yeah, like these are the Kinder ones, so the legs you gave you the bigger ones.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

Well, those that's the Kinder Unfortunate surprise range.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Funny, someone was saying yesterday just about Easter eggs, whatever it says. Gone are the days whenever you got an Easter egg and a cup.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

Oh yeah, remember those cups? And a mug. Marty's cup was notorious.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

And they were always much smaller eggs. But you get in a cup. You were getting a cup.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

I don't want the cup when we're on the correct. And you probably still have that cup in the cupboard now. I'm amazed that actually Harry Potter World beat.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

I think there's more entertainment in it. I think less risk of death. I think Middle Earth could be risky. Yeah. I think, you know, we joke about those orcs, but you gotta watch yourself. They're not easy. Whereas I do think Harry Potter World has plenty of fun. And you could dodge Foldermort. Well, I don't like to name them.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

Oh right. You don't say the name of all of this podcast.

SPEAKER_04 43:46

You know, so there you go. Harry Potter World is my number one choice.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

What about our listeners? Gee, what do we have?

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Oh, you go ahead because I've got a fine mind here.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

Uh Thomas sent me a very succinct three words. California, then Neverland, then Westeros.

SPEAKER_04 44:02

Okay. Westeros. Westeros would that would be a dangerous place to live. Not many happy stories in Westeros.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

I have Rodney Maxwell. He said a world with flying cars. We're not far away from that there. A world with a time machine. And a world with no dictators.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

Okay. That's fair. It's a very interesting approach. He's taken a wish list rather than fictional worlds. He has. He has. And then that would be my top three things I would wish for this year, rather than my top three fictional worlds.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

True, true.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

Who was that again? What's that? No dictator. Rodney Raxwell. Rodney. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

I've not come in from McMaker Lee, and I did send off to him.

SPEAKER_04 44:43

He's the usual one, but Rodney, you need to think a little harder. But then I think Gareth didn't really sell this one the way he was doing it.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

We have uh Ron Message then, and he said highlighted fake worlds. Star Wars, easy, I want the lightsaber. Matrix, I would like the ability to download new skills in seconds. And then Star Trek. The world where everyone works towards one goal of furthering humanity. Is that true, Martin, as a Star Trek fan?

SPEAKER_04 45:12

I'm not a Star Trek fan, I'm a Star Wars fan.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

I thought uh it's not a m a big leap to the case.

SPEAKER_04 45:18

Looking at the Star Wars universe, that would have been another good one. And obviously the lightsaber, I mean, although I do a great Darth Vader impression, I would be more Luke Skywalker than I would be Darth Vader. You think so? Well, that's the way I like to phrase it.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Not sure anybody else would, but Pete McQuellen sent in Westeros, the Dutton Ranch. Number two. I did think about that. You would be at the train station by the third day.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Do you know what I did? Actually, have you seen the new Madison? No. It's uh Is it good?

SPEAKER_03 45:54

It's a nicer world. What do you mean nicer as an easier watch?

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Yeah, not not as much going on, but lovely scenery, nice place to live.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

How many episodes in are you? Finished. Oh, it's finished. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

I haven't seen any of it yet. Number one for Pete, interestingly, very similar to Martin's. Island New Bar from Jurassic Park. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:16

I mean, knowing you were going in properly equipped, would you not love the opportunity to go and see dinosaurs?

SPEAKER_03 46:21

You would know about properly asked equipped. Ben sent some in which I'm not going to read out because we'll get banned.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

Thanks, Ben.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

That really helps us. Did he do fancy world rather than fictional world?

SPEAKER_03 46:32

No, he said things. Yeah. And then Lewis also sent, I'm not going to read those, so all the earth might be. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 46:40

Victoria Danoon suggested Starfleet Academy. I'm again must fancy, you know, the chance to captain the Enterprise or something. She's also picked Hogwarts and Middle-earth, specifically the Shire.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

Oh, so she went. She oh, she's a fan. That's why you and her get on well. She likes Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_04 47:00

And also she's picked Hogwarts. Johnny Kerr.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Oh Johnny?

SPEAKER_04 47:04

His fictional worlds that he likes are the Shire in Middle Earth, although he said that was Connor's choice. Yummy and Sensuous Dinner Parties and Lunches with Zero Effort.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

That's a good angle, actually. I like that one.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

That's good, yeah. And his third fictional world, retirement. Oh. For you, some of you youngsters. He lives like a mile.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

He surely spends half his time out of the country. Exactly. Johnny Messies then. This is a good one. Willie Wonka's chocolate factory.

SPEAKER_04 47:34

Oh that's a good one. You'd you'd be that boy. Which one? Augustus.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

The one that I watched it, the kids had it on the other day. It was the old version as well.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

The old version. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

And the grand is just lying in bed and they're all like working around.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I'm like, but that's what the book was. The four grandparents were in the room, and what what they drank or what they ate every day was cabbage soup. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 47:59

Oh, that can't have been a good environment. I know, I know. We have uh Johnny's number two, Westworld.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

Again, slightly dangerous place to live. And then number one, Planet Endor with Ewoks. Very specific, Johnny. Yeah. Well, ewoks are quite cute. I think we have a voicemail message. Oh, that's good. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

If if this if this works, we're using technology here, folks.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Okay, so here we go. Um, starting with third and working up to first place. So in third place would be the Harry Potter universe. Uh, who wouldn't want to experience Hogwarts in all its glory? Who wouldn't want to experience playing Quidditch, learning spells? Um, I have absolutely zero doubt that I would be a Gryffindor and a fantastic one at that. Um, and it was a world that I completely lost myself in as a child and has had many happy memories listening to audiobooks, reading the books, watching the films, and soon to be watching the TV series. So, number three is the Harry Potter universe. Number two is the Jurassic Park universe. My undoubted toxic trait is that if Jurassic Park was a real thing, I would absolutely go to it and see it. I am fascinated and always have been by dinosaurs. They are some of my favorite films. I have watched those films so many times. The original still stands the test of time and would be in my top five movies of all time. And fundamentally, who wouldn't want to see those creatures in all their glory? Aren't they Garrous? Albeit hopefully behind a protective barrier or a fence. Number one, uh, you've probably guessed this already, but number one is the Lord of the Rings universe. The most magical world, uh, no pun intended, ever put to uh pen or ever put onto the big screen. It would be an absolute joy to explore all the way from Hobbiton in the Shire through the misty mountains to be able to see Rivendell in all its glory, even more Moria. However, if I was to live anywhere in Middle Earth, it would undoubtedly be Rohan, and I would love to be a member of the Roherem. That would be the dream, the dream job. Uh, not Gondor, um, Rohan with its wide open spaces, uh, the fields, um, and the ability to be on horseback all day. So to summarize, Harry Potter in third, Jurassic Park in second, and Lord of the Rings in first.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Have you listened to that before? No. He's disgusted the sound quality.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

All I can say is, listeners, we love you sending us voicemail messages. But if you could try not to be cleaning the kitchen at the same time, banging plugs and pants, quite honestly, as a sound man, that was doing my napper. You want to say we were supposed to blow? My colleagues were laughing, not at the content, but more at my facial expressions as we did that. Excellent choices. I can't fault the choices, but uh the reality is when we're doing voicemail messages, listeners, just pick a moment where it's quiet around you. Don't uh you know clean your kitchen and we'll do that. Gentlemen, have you anything further or have we explored fictional worlds as much as you feel you want to do that?

SPEAKER_03 51:41

I think Gareth's happy to finish that now.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Yeah, I don't think he's enjoyed this one as much as some others. But anyway, we'll be back with another interesting, maybe to us, maybe not to Gareth, uh, topic in the very near future. But until then, on behalf of the podcast, my name is Martin.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

My name is Gareth. And my name's Andy.

SPEAKER_04 51:57

And uh we'll see you all very shortly.