The Miracle Zone

017 Accelerated Creation in the Miracle Zone: Behind the Scenes with Homaya

• Catarina Andrade

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Welcome ✨

Hello and welcome to another episode of The Miracle Zone. I’m absolutely delighted to share this space with you as we dive into the magic of co-creation, leadership, and living in the miracle frequency. Today’s conversation is one that truly touched my heart, and I cannot wait for you to experience it.

Episode Summary 🌟

In this episode, I sit down with my dear friend and co-creator, Homaya, for a deeply nourishing conversation about leading from the miracle zone. We explore what it means to create with light, the behind-the-scenes reality of leadership, and the magic that unfolds when we allow ourselves to stretch beyond the known. Together, we reflect on the power of saying yes to what feels good, the beauty of surrendering to the unknown, and the real-life miracles that happen when we trust the process. You’ll hear us share stories of spontaneous creation, the importance of community, and how the miracle frequency can transform not only our work but our entire lives.

Key Takeaways 💡

  • The miracle zone is about co-creating with the field, allowing the flow to carry us, and trusting that not everything needs to make logical sense.
  • Leadership is both magical and messy. Miracles often require us to stretch, surrender, and stay open to the unknown.
  • Saying yes to what truly lights us up is the gateway to miracles. Sometimes, all it takes is one clear intention and the willingness to act on it.
  • Doubt can be a sign that something extraordinary is unfolding. Celebrate the synchronicities, even the small ones, as evidence of the miracle frequency at work.
  • Active surrender is key. We are both the creators and the recipients of miracles, and our willingness to weave, stretch, and play opens the door to new possibilities.

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Thank you for tuning in, and I will see you in the next episode.














[00:00:00] Catarina Andrade: Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Miracle Zone. podcast, Ah, I'm a little speechless that we're actually here with one of my favorite, favorite people, dear Homaya, who's a beautiful friend of mine. Also, one of my clients, which just sounds like the wrong word, a co-creator in the Miracle Zone.

[00:00:26] Catarina Andrade: And why I'm so excited to have her here is because. [00:00:30]Homaya, I'm going to speak to you because you're here instead of in the third person so people can really feel this is, I feel like you are such an embodiment of somebody leading in their miracle zone, creating with the miracle frequency. And I think that's why it's such a joy to create with you and to walk side by side with you and as a friend to mother's side by side with you to be in life with you because I feel like we're riding this miracle [00:01:00] frequency river together.

[00:01:01] Catarina Andrade: And so I'm so delighted to have you here and to have everybody have an opportunity to join us and really feel into what it looks like and feels like. And sounds like and tastes like to lead as light with light for light creating with this frequency. It's just, it's such a delight. So welcome, welcome to [00:01:30] the space.

[00:01:31] Homaya: Thank you so much. Thank you.

[00:01:35] Catarina Andrade: We could just sit here and laugh with each other. 

[00:01:38] Homaya: Exactly. Yeah. 

[00:01:40] Catarina Andrade: Laugh and cry with each other. 

[00:01:42] Homaya: Yeah. I wanted to say that I'm delight that we have this possibility because we were looking at creating something like that for some time, and that we have this possibility to allow others to witness this space.

[00:01:57] Catarina Andrade: Yeah. Absolutely, [00:02:00] and I think a lot of the people in my community know who you are because you've been very generous in terms of you were one of our guest mentors for the rituals for radiance and the rituals for receiving. And so I think a lot of people watching already know you. I think a lot of your people also know me, and so.

[00:02:19] Catarina Andrade: I really feel like we're a beautiful family already and anybody else who's peeping in, you're welcome. You're welcome. But I still wanted to just give a little opportunity for you to just [00:02:30] speak to. Who you are or what you do in this moment. I know it's ever evolving and abusive, but even though we have written Homaya bios 10 million times over, what are you feeling called to share in this moment for anybody who's new to you?

[00:02:49] Homaya: Oh, well, but you know, in the context of miracle frequency, I feel that this is so beautiful that one will be able to keep inside of them an [00:03:00] undefined space. So yes, I'm a teacher and a master and a master of masters. I've been, a master in a current lineage for, um. I cannot even count the years. I mean like, no, 20 years or something like that.

[00:03:18] Homaya: I'm a master healer, but those are names that you can find because ones were, those were defined. I don't feel that there's a literal [00:03:30] definition to who I am and what I am. I'm Homaya deal with it. Yeah, and this is part of the freedom, part of, of what create a miracle is that you're not trying to put any title so others will understand you, or that you will feel that there is a path to create what you are here to create.

[00:03:53] Homaya: Yeah, I'm on the spiritual path. I am on a self-awareness path, a leadership light leadership [00:04:00] path. I'm super, super passionate about the world being led by light as it is supposed to be and as it is being.

[00:04:11] Catarina Andrade: Thank you. Thank you for reminding us. The answer is the mystery and what we can't put our finger on. And I think a lot of it is this, it's more of this this vibration, this frequency, this feeling, this feeling. And What I really love to do on [00:04:30] the podcast, one, there's guests, is to really do a bit of behind the scenes sharing so everybody sees, all of us leaders doing our thing, leading our thing, shining our thing, showing up, stewarding our message, stewarding our communities, all of the things.

[00:04:49] Catarina Andrade: Everybody looking to us when things are challenging just as they are in the world. There's lots of darkness. Who do we look to? How do we lead? And they look to the leaders in the space [00:05:00] and it's really beautiful. And I think one of the. Biggest privileges in my life and the work that I do is to get to work side by side with leaders and really see what's going on behind the scenes, which is a lot of miracles and also some mess.

[00:05:15] Catarina Andrade: You know, let's be honest, that's how we create as humans in the world, and so I'm really excited to. Take this time with you to do a little bit of that. So it will feel different than a lot of [00:05:30] maybe other, , interviews or podcasts as others have listened to you speak on because you have so much beautiful spiritual wisdom to share.

[00:05:37] Catarina Andrade: But I want to, I want to show about how we are translating that into the creation space, into that. Oh, where light becomes leadership and in that in between space. 

[00:05:50] Homaya: Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:50] Catarina Andrade: What does that look like for Homaya? Because it's really fun and I'm sure also really intense, so I wanted to [00:06:00] start with a conversation that we had last year.

[00:06:05] Catarina Andrade: You know which one I'm talking about because you felt it coming.

[00:06:10] Catarina Andrade: So to give people who are watching a little bit background context. I was supposed to be in one place and then plans got diverted and that didn't work out. And so I gave Homaya a call. We both live in Portugal, even though we're three hours apart. I happened to be in her area and I [00:06:30] gave her a call and I said, hi, can I pop by for a tea?

[00:06:37] Catarina Andrade: And um, and it shifted some timelines that, that time we spent together. And 

[00:06:44] Homaya: like any good tea. 

[00:06:46] Catarina Andrade: Like any good tea, the power of tea and being in ceremony over tea with with other powerful leaders, and I remember. When we began to chat, you were [00:07:00] telling me about all the things that were going on, all the amazing things.

[00:07:03] Catarina Andrade: Your business was going through a big expansion. There was family expansions happening. You know, we were talking about motherhood, we were talking about business, we're talking about money. We're talking about all the things as you do over tea and the state of the world. And I remember. This moment where I don't know what prompted it.

[00:07:26] Catarina Andrade: Obviously I know what prompted it, but I don't know how [00:07:30]we got to this point in the conversation, but I remember asking you, but what do you actually want to do? Like right now? What does your heart actually want, aside from all the things that you're doing. This full plate platter of goodness of desserts and delights of how you're showing up in the world and how you're serving.

[00:07:55] Catarina Andrade: I remember I was just called to ask you, but okay, but forget what you're [00:08:00] doing now. What do you actually want to do? And do you remember what you responded in that moment? 

[00:08:05] Homaya: No, I'm actually listening to this part of the conversation. It's so crazy because I extracted from this conversation something else.

[00:08:12] Homaya: So what did I answer? Mm-hmm. 

[00:08:16] Catarina Andrade: So we were talking about the full plate, you know, one of the things I do is to help leaders look at their plate and what's on their plate and what they're focusing on, and figure out what should stay, what should go, what's missing, how do we [00:08:30] play with that?

[00:08:30] Catarina Andrade: And so you were telling me about your beautiful full plate, but I could sense there was like, there was like something missing from the plate. And I think a lot of my work is to help people figure out, oh, do we need to take things off the plate or do we need to put things on the plate? And what I got the sense of when I was talking to you is this plate is so full, instinct , in a logical world, I would say, okay, what needs to come off her plate?

[00:08:56] Catarina Andrade: But in my intuitive, instinctive world, I [00:09:00] thought there's something missing from this plate. And so that's why I asked you this question, but if, what is, what do you actually want to do? Like really, really? And you don't remember, but what you responded was, you got this light in your eyes and this, your energy completely shifted and you said, I want to be live in person with my people.

[00:09:25] Catarina Andrade: I want to be live in person with my [00:09:30] people.

[00:09:30] Catarina Andrade: I haven't done that in so long and that's what I want to do. And you have this light in your eyes and I remember just looking at you and saying, so do it.

[00:09:44] Catarina Andrade: And then we looked at each other and said, it's impossible but we can do it because it's what needs to happen. And that, that, that moment just really landed with me because it was, [00:10:00] I don't know, it was the right question to ask in that moment to bring out the answer you already knew.

[00:10:06] Catarina Andrade: And it made no sense. Mm-hmm. That's what I always say about the miracle frequency. It made no sense to decide that's what you wanted to do, and the way you did it made no sense because it could have been like, okay, great, I'm going to do something in a year or in a couple of months. But it turned into I'm going to host a live event.

[00:10:29] Catarina Andrade: [00:10:30] I have 21 days to get people from all over the world to show up to this live event, which became your amazing creation. Golden. And so. That's the moment that stuck in my mind. I'm curious what came up for you in the creation of that moment. The light in your eyes, and then the let's do it, and then the craziness of it and us being like, it's a miracle frequency moment.

[00:10:59] Catarina Andrade: Like it will [00:11:00] happen because it's, it's happening already. 

[00:11:02] Homaya: Oh my God, this is so beautiful. It's so powerful also to get it from your perspective. I'm going to give a little bit of a context for the listeners. I know that you know it. Yeah. I was teaching around the world intensely for a decade.

[00:11:20] Homaya: I was traveling from one country to another and sometimes few times a year to a specific country, and I was initiating healers and [00:11:30] giving teachings, and that happened for so many years, for so long, and I felt that it comes to full saturation when my boy was around two, three years, and I felt like both because of the content, I had a lot of questions around healing, and because of my life scenario, I stopped and we can say that I [00:12:00] closed that business and after a few years opened another business, which was like more an online.

[00:12:07] Homaya: Teaching and transmissions, and there are people who were with me and they are with me for 20 years or 15 years and have met me somewhere around the world in Germany or in France or wherever I was teaching and. Some of them were asking me, when are you coming live again? [00:12:30] Can we meet you live? I even had one of my client renting literally an event place for me.

[00:12:41] Homaya: She rented it for me. She scheduled the dates and she said, here it is. Just come and teach. And I wasn't still feeling the calling, but I felt it here. It was just like I felt it. I, I felt it, [00:13:00]but it didn't land. And in May I was in event, an in-person event, that had like a big scale event.

[00:13:13] Homaya: And It was activating inside of me what it means to be in a room. So it was not the first in-person event that I was, but that specific one was nourishing me back and I started flirting with the idea what will happen if I'm going to [00:13:30] go in person again, live with my people. That was a sensation or a feeling, and I have no idea how and why, but things started to move.

[00:13:42] Homaya: And summer started, which means that my child is in vacation and people are in vacation. I'm living in Sintra, which is a gorgeous, amazing place and it is the most heuristic place. It's like, how do you get a spot [00:14:00] in Sintra? And we were in the process of buying a house in the location that you're living.

[00:14:07] Homaya: And I was in the idea already. I already had this idea of, I think I'm going to go, I think I'm going to do something crazy. I have a feeling I'm going to go do something crazy. I have a feeling I'm going to go live. I'm going to, I'm going to do something in person.

[00:14:23] Homaya: Then you came, and I remember I said to you, Val, my husband, I said to him. [00:14:30] She's coming for a reason. It's not. It's not for nothing. There's a reason which in that breath, I also want to say to those who are listening, there's always definitely a reason to so many things, but when it is mentioned energetically that there's a reason that means there's a real reason faster and more real.

[00:14:54] Homaya: I stood Well, there's a reason, and it was not only for tea, I think that you came for a [00:15:00] sleepover. 

[00:15:00] Catarina Andrade: I think the tea turned into a sleepover. It was some good tea. 

[00:15:06] Homaya: It was a good tea. We went to sleep. My husband went to sleep. Goma went to sleep, and we were chatting and chatting and chatting. And among all I told you, so I, I felt that, I told you even before I told you, I, I have a feeling I want to do a live event.

[00:15:23] Homaya: And then you came with an answer and you with an answer with a question, and you said, but what do you really want to do? And I told you, no really [00:15:30] want to do that? And then we said, you said, we said let's make it happen.

[00:15:36] Homaya: And if I recall, well, I already had an idea for a place. I already, I was already seeing some of the things and I was, we were like, but one of the things that I feel that is so important to know in that context, and I also in again, really in wish to inspire those who are listening. When you enter a miracle zone, there [00:16:00] is no.

[00:16:02] Homaya: Logic and there's really, it's really hard to trace what happened before and after because the ether and the real are alternating in such a fast frequency, in such a fast, in velocity, as I love to say, and it is so hard to trace. Who said that first? Who had the idea? Who mentioned that, who brought [00:16:30] that?

[00:16:30] Homaya: It's like you cannot trace it because it is untraceable on the physical dimension. It is untraceable to say because it's almost like everything is happening simultaneously at the same moment, at the same time. 'cause what also happened is. You then left for a few days and then you, I think you came back on Sunday evening or on Monday evening, so that our meeting, if I recall well, [00:17:00] was on Thursday or maybe on Friday evening.

[00:17:04] Homaya: So you went for a weekend and you came back again, and when you came back again we, it was already locked and loaded. It was done. It was done. It was done. It was done and like done. We had location, we had the photographer, we had he brought the, so we had the videographer. We had the name, maybe we already had.

[00:17:29] Homaya: I [00:17:30] don't see, this is so challenging to trace what happened. Before and after. It's like there's no way to even trace it because it all happens simultaneously. 

[00:17:44] Catarina Andrade: Absolutely. I really want to just drive this home for people listening because one of the big aha that I've had, which is why this podcast is called The Miracle Zone, is that

[00:17:56] Catarina Andrade: We are creating in the Miracle Zone. A lot of people [00:18:00] talk about the genius zone, it being in your zone of genius. That's amazing. I think we've all experienced that, but it's a different thing, right? In the genius zone, it's about us being in the flow and it's still us in the creation. When you're in the miracle zone, it's like.

[00:18:17] Catarina Andrade: You are the flow, the flow is around you. The field is creating for you. And that's why it's so powerful because we no longer need to carry it all. We often, the less we carry, the better, right? Because [00:18:30] then everything can organize around us in a way that doesn't make sense to our human brain. It's just a completely different way of.

[00:18:37] Catarina Andrade: Creating. And so that's why it's so important when you're thinking about your role , as a leader or in your business or whatever you're doing in life, is if I'm a person who has the capacity to tap into the miracle zone, because that's how I create, and I've been doing it for lifetimes and lifetimes and lifetimes, that's where I need to reside as much as possible, because [00:19:00] that's.

[00:19:00] Catarina Andrade: My way of creating in the world. It's very different than the templates that we see all around us for how we create business, for how we create other things in the world, for how we create a new world. Even. It's just a completely different template that is as much being active. You know? It's not like you were just like, I'm just going to sit on my couch and nothing.

[00:19:23] Catarina Andrade: You did a lot of things, but also being. Equally in full surrender. So I wanted to mention [00:19:30] that piece. I also wanted to 

[00:19:32] Homaya: yeah. 

[00:19:34] Homaya: I know you want to ask something, but in a miracle frequency, I also want to add to that

[00:19:38] Catarina Andrade: jump in. Jump in the field is creating.

[00:19:40] Homaya: Yeah. 

[00:19:41] Homaya: I feel, I feel that it's really, uh, knowing that we're always in the miracle frequencies.

[00:19:49] Homaya: However, there will be times or timeframes of greater accuracy, so we're always [00:20:00] in the miracle frequencies and some of the times that we're doing, or some of the things that we're doing in the linear time yesterday, today, and tomorrow is being done. To support the moments where there is a 100% divine alignment and all that there is, is a portal.

[00:20:22] Homaya: All that there is is a portal and the now become wider and [00:20:30] brighter and there's no. There's no limitation of the now. It's not that you're sitting all day long and you're just waiting for the miracle frequency and doing nothing, because then you're going to move into like a high level frustration.

[00:20:46] Homaya: And plus you're not in your vitality. You're not, no, you're doing something for the miracle frequency and in the miracle frequency. And there will come a moment and now moment where that will [00:21:00] become. Alive through a shape and a form and a color and a sense, and a smell. So it's like be there attentive that one day it's going to come to life even.

[00:21:16] Homaya: And it could be that it, some of the things will come in your next lifetime. We are working on this relationship. It's not the first lifetime. Of course. So this is part of the thing. It's like how you're showing up [00:21:30] always to the miracle frequency, even in times and in situation where it doesn't feel miraculous, it doesn't supposed to feel miraculous.

[00:21:42] Homaya: I knew you were coming for a reason for the human mind. The reason was one. But for the energetic presence of me and both you and you had a reason to come, right? So on the human mind, on the human [00:22:00] reasoning of cause and effect, we can say the limitation, honestly, excuse me, for those that it hurts their feeling 11, 11 my time now.

[00:22:08] Homaya: Cause and effect. You say, oh, there's a reason and so on. And it is the prism, the perspective that the human can perceive. For beyond time and beyond space, definitely there was a reason beyond the reason that you could manage to grasp and beyond the reason that I could manage to grasp. And then we move from [00:22:30] karma, from cause and effect to the portal of grace.

[00:22:34] Homaya: And this is where a new zone, this is where a new frequency is alive. And, and you can operate, but you've done you've done the. You've been in it in another mode.

[00:22:47] Catarina Andrade: Weaving. 

[00:22:48] Homaya: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:22:49] Catarina Andrade: It's like a constant weaving. You don't know when the tapestry will be complete. Which you never stop weaving. But are you, are you weaving like [00:23:00] sloppy?

[00:23:01] Catarina Andrade: Is it a sloppy weave? Is it a refined weave? Is it using golden thread? There's details there that you can control through how you're doing it. Through how you're showing up. 

[00:23:12] Catarina Andrade: Yeah. 

[00:23:13] Catarina Andrade: Um, but you're always weaving. 

[00:23:14] Homaya: Yeah. And being willing to be aware that you are. Waiting while you are doing because there's something greater.

[00:23:24] Homaya: There's something like, there is this incredible [00:23:30] light being present, and it is accumulating its presence and

[00:23:35] Homaya: gathering its presence. And then at that moment that it shows up, it's also the time to say. It's showtime now. It's like now we're playing. Now we're playing. And what is happening that I see a lot with Muggles, but also with spiritual people, is [00:24:00] that spirituality stays and the miracle frequency and God's grace.

[00:24:07] Homaya: All of those real wonder. Because they don't feel it all the time in a high voltage, they can easily start having doubts around it instead of celebrating it, regardless of the size of it, regardless if it's just felt in 1%, [00:24:30] it's just filled in. Just coincidence, just the moments of telepathy. Just a moment.

[00:24:36] Homaya: It's like this is your choice. If you're going to make this moment of synchronicity, a moment of telepathy, something that you are just like dismissing or you're going to say, those are all the evidence that I need. That there's something greater than that showing up for me, and there're going to come a moment that great thing going to dance with [00:25:00] me, going to invite me to go on the dance floor and we are going to dance.

[00:25:05] Homaya: So You know, people sometimes are asking me about doubts, right? Like, but I have doubts. I also have doubts. But those doubts are rising in the presence of goodness. If you were lethargic and you were like not believing anything, then doubt would not exist. You will be in certainty that there's limitation, but it is in the presence of their [00:25:30] mightiness that you start doubting, if you're capable.

[00:25:34] Homaya: So can we also look at the doubt as something that actually pointing you to, oh my God, something incredible is happening. 

[00:25:43] Catarina Andrade: I want to add to that. I've never thought of it this way. First of all, that brings tears to my eyes. So thank you. Thank you for the reminder. I was thinking about how I work with that.

[00:25:55] Catarina Andrade: You know, when, when I'm going through the challenging periods or through the doubts or [00:26:00] through everything is not working or breaking down. And, but I still get the little synchronicities and as you were talking about it, I realized I get a little turned on, right? So I'll give you an example. Like in the last week there's been, you know, a bit of a mess as happens in different areas of our lives.

[00:26:21] Catarina Andrade: But there's also been so many little synchronicities. Every single time, even, as we were talking now, I also saw the 1111 immediately. [00:26:30] It's like, huh? It's like, huh? It's like, oh, yeah. Oh, you know? And so how can we stay connected to the curiosity of Ooh, I wonder how this is going to turn out, because every time something turns out terribly wrong.

[00:26:47] Catarina Andrade: I immediately start asking ho,

[00:26:50] Catarina Andrade: you know, that's my default, I would say for the last five years, at least. Immediately, my default is how is this going to work out even better than I could imagined, because [00:27:00] it's not even just a manifestation, it's miracle. It makes no sense. And we need to be a little humble too. You know, our ego thought we, we thought we knew how it would work, and then it doesn't work that way.

[00:27:10] Catarina Andrade: It's something completely different. So. I wanted to share that as an activation. I was feeling in my body as you were talking. I was like, oh, can I not just be like, Ooh, curious. But like, even turned on, like, okay. Okay. I keep moving forward with the certainty and uncertainty as one [00:27:30] together.

[00:27:30] Catarina Andrade: Um, and they don't need to cancel each other out. And there's something beautiful about that and I think in working, just using the golden example with you, so this beautiful event that you did last year, it was over the Lionsgate portal, which is why it was so powerful because when you decided that you were going to do a live event, this was July, and you decided it would in 21 days, essentially it, [00:28:00] it was planned in 21 days.

[00:28:02] Catarina Andrade: It was sold out in 21 days. So it was like a miracle of planning, a miracle of sales, a miracle of just energy consolidating in this beautiful. Space and time for this. Moving through the landscape portal together with everybody who showed up. And it was, it was this, it was like it wasnt easy. A lot had to move.

[00:28:27] Catarina Andrade: Yeah. It wasn't easy. Right. I think there's [00:28:30] a myth that it's easy, but when you're working behind the scenes it's a lot of work. I know your, your team also was like all on leave, this all happened when your team was on vacation 

[00:28:43] Homaya: and my child is on vacation. I dunno what was more challenging? 

[00:28:47] Catarina Andrade: No, the child was home and the team was having a break and nevertheless, this event was created and completely sold out in 21 days and was a masterpiece.

[00:28:58] Catarina Andrade: Yeah. [00:29:00] And it was a lot of time and energy and effort and, and also 10 times more the magic that made it happen. And and delightful, the laughter and the delight. It, it was, it was orgasmic creation. Right. And I think people could feel it at the event. 

[00:29:18] Homaya: It was, it was, it was. I feel if I can add, another point to what I feel that defined for me and support me to recognize [00:29:30] how to move in a miracle frequency and to stretch it and really enjoy it and so on. Similar to what I said about the doubts before, right? One of the things that I said, those doubts would not exist if there was no real potential here, right?

[00:29:47] Homaya: And to say, okay, but I say yes. I say yes, I keep on saying yes. So this idea is I keep on saying yes to what feels good.

[00:29:59] Homaya: [00:30:00] I keep on saying yes to what feels good, and then comes again the game of, there's a difference between, it feels good because I know it and it is familiar. It feels good because it is satisfying. And it feels good because it is uplifting what you described, like this joy, this orgasmic experience. Right?

[00:30:27] Homaya: It feels good because it is [00:30:30] uplifting and there's this flavor in it of, I wonder how would that feel? So you get the idea, and it's not having any gray matter in it, thinking it doesn't come from a thinking realm. I thought about it, someone else thought about it like it doesn't have this frequency.

[00:30:53] Homaya: It's more like the frequency of a bell. You know? It's like something so clear [00:31:00] tone and it's like, well, I know it. Those are figs in chocolate. I know it. I sense it. I can smell it. I, but I've never tried it and it feels good. I wonder how, what it would require, how it will come to life or, so it's like, okay, mm, I want to do the event.

[00:31:26] Homaya: Great. Everyone is in vacation or planning to be in [00:31:30] vacation. Like they, my team were still so involved and so, you know, like so engaged, but was like, okay, uh, where probably going to do it still here around, What is the best place that I can find? I have, I had an idea of one place, but then the frequency of that place, it's not that it's not beautiful, it's not that it's not miraculous, it's not that.

[00:31:53] Homaya: It's not Oh, amazing. And part of the things that we're going to do in this golden event will be in that place. But it's more [00:32:00] like, oh, I have this place and it's beautiful and it is amazing and it has the frequency of a known. So let's stretch a little bit. Let's bring this positive, good stretch. Not the stretch that can tear something apart, but not also be,

[00:32:24] Homaya: Too comfortable. So finding this nice stretch and [00:32:30] really moving with it. And I said, okay, well we need to find another spot. And we started looking and I had just the idea of another spot Yeah, they were not only available, which is like this is the spot where all the romantic exclusive high frequency marriage wedding are happening in Sintra, and the 8, 8 8 was the 8 8 8 gate.

[00:32:56] Homaya: Of course, everyone want to get married at that day, but no, they were there [00:33:00] with two statues of lions waiting for us as we step in.

[00:33:04] Catarina Andrade: It's so good. 

[00:33:07] Catarina Andrade: It's so good. And this reminds me also of the conversation we've been having more recently over the last few months. So this amazing event took place. Then you pre-sold the event for this year? For this year, which is taking place again, August on 8 8, 7. Eight and eight. Eight. And so I think it was 10 months in [00:33:30] advance.

[00:33:30] Catarina Andrade: Not only, the other one sold out in 21 days. It was amazing. And then it was already pre-sold for this year, 10 months in advance. I remember the moment where you were feeling it was bigger. I remember that moment even as it was happening. We were there last year in the event, and you walked off of stage and you looked at me and you said, this needs to be bigger.

[00:33:55] Catarina Andrade: I see hundreds. The stretching is, [00:34:00] you know, it's like I, I see this rubber band. It was like that stretch. And then the stretch is this, we never get to the edge of the stretch because it's constantly stretching. 

[00:34:09] Homaya: Yeah. 

[00:34:09] Catarina Andrade: And so, even though it would've been really easy to just redo, even in this exquisite venue from last year the same thing.

[00:34:17] Catarina Andrade: It sold out you, there was the, the invitation from the field again to stretch it further to more people. To, to a new place. And so do you want to talk a little bit about what's been [00:34:30] going on behind the scenes for the creation of the one for this year that's happening soon? 

[00:34:34] Homaya: Yes. 

[00:34:35] Homaya: I feel, I feel like it was so good we had to do it again.

[00:34:39] Homaya: I mean, like it was so good we didn't want it to end, so we had to do it again. 

[00:34:44] Catarina Andrade: Yeah. And I remember people were saying, somebody was saying, we need to do this monthly, you know, or multiple times a year. And we had to, you and I had to sit and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, let's like feel into what this is and how [00:35:00] often this energy wants to present itself.

[00:35:03] Homaya: Yeah. Yes. 

[00:35:04] Catarina Andrade: Like everybody was feeling that. 

[00:35:06] Homaya: Yes it was. No it was. And it is. And it will be. Ah, above and beyond. Yeah, a few weeks afterwards I said, let's sell it again and see what will happen. I wasn't expecting that it will be sold out so quickly again, and then I had to stop because if [00:35:30] 10 months before we sold it completely, then what am I going to do?

[00:35:35] Homaya: And we said let's look for a location. And there were a wave in my life I had to go, and I'm still going through something that is, you experience it once in a lifetime where your parents are decating. And both of my parents are, are really going through health challenges and it demanded [00:36:00] and it's still demanding so much energy from me and such a huge growth to grow in the presence of it while we're looking for location and we couldn't find a location.

[00:36:15] Catarina Andrade: It was the opposite last year. It was like, here is the location. Last minute. Perfect. And this year it was like, doors closing. No, no. 

[00:36:26] Homaya: And then I also even said, no. 

[00:36:29] Catarina Andrade: [00:36:30] Yeah, I remember. 

[00:36:33] Homaya: Okay, so we find it was like that, like we found a location. Then they say you cannot put the candles. We find a location.

[00:36:39] Homaya: They said, you cannot do sage, you cannot do music. Uh, you can do, but not in that size. You can do, but it's cost like way, way more than what we could hold. There was so many things coming along the way. And then we even found a location, which was okay, and it felt like just [00:37:00] okay-ish. Just had this great frequency, but okay-ish frequency, and I couldn't put myself into rest.

[00:37:12] Homaya: Let's say it out loud, because the toilets were not matching the style.

[00:37:18] Catarina Andrade: The venue's amazing, but the toilets are not the vibe. And if one thing is out of alignment, 

[00:37:26] Homaya: this cannot make it. And [00:37:30] this is the moment where you say, we're always operating in the 3D. The mind will always think, and your job. As a leader of light is to search for the places where the mind ends and to feel that you're strong and stable and that you're at home.

[00:37:55] Homaya: So yeah, my heart couldn't feel addressed. [00:38:00] The place was. Okay. And okay is just okay. How can you do Golden in? Okay. And it was already edgy, like the time is advancing. We're already in May or something like that. People were buying tickets, people bought flight tickets, and. And I'm just getting, no, no, no.

[00:38:28] Homaya: And I'm still [00:38:30] like, and I felt like, okay, I said to Yali, call that place another place. Call that place. And she said, but we already called them. They said, there's no place. And I said, call again. Just call them again. I have a feeling, call them again. And I remember that she sent me a message and she said, I'm, I'm, I'm even afraid to be something along the line of, I'm even [00:39:00] afraid to be happy.

[00:39:01] Homaya: I'm even afraid to say that there's a, an openness because there's a chance and we don't know what will come out of it. We already had a contract with the Ashish Place, right? The contract was, was in our table. We already said we go there and then this ray of light entered. And hilarious as it [00:39:30] might sound, the name of the place was Secret Spot.

[00:39:34] Catarina Andrade: The secret spot. The Secret spot. You was waiting all 

[00:39:40] Catarina Andrade: along. 

[00:39:41] Homaya: Of course it was there all along and it just was a secret spot. We couldn't spot it. Not in that frequency, and some things needed to change in me and some things needed to change in my frequency and in the way that I move to be [00:40:00] able to be holding that

[00:40:03] Homaya: and the journey is still on the edge of the unfamiliar. Like stepping on the threshold of the unknown.

[00:40:16] Homaya: I mean like other, I'm thinking, saying to myself, other people will say standing on the threshold of the known, right? You just got on the edge of the known. Took it to the end. To the edge. To the edge. [00:40:30] But it's like, no, you are already one, one foot in. The unknown and you want to stay there. And that, that is always risky when you are in the mind and indescribable when you are in your heart.

[00:40:53] Homaya: And the reason that the mind defined it as risky is because the mind know that there's something big [00:41:00] coming.

[00:41:01] Catarina Andrade: Protecting.

[00:41:03] Homaya: Yeah. So it's, it's like now it's, it's again, now in that moment, it's again, a constant play of, okay. We probably going to stretch more. Okay. We're probably going to go more. Okay. We're probably going to play more. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 

[00:41:21] Homaya: Can, the known can only repeat itself

[00:41:26] Homaya: ' cause it's already known. 

[00:41:29] Catarina Andrade: And [00:41:30] we didn't come here for the, no, 

[00:41:32] Homaya: we ourself were unknown. 

[00:41:35] Catarina Andrade: Right where we began.

[00:41:37] Catarina Andrade: I wanted to ask you one final piece. 

[00:41:41] Homaya: No, we're fine now. Oh my God. 

[00:41:44] Catarina Andrade: It can be a long piece. Take as long as you want. We, you know, we don't, we don't play the time game. What's coming to me is we've had a lot of conversations, again, from a business and leadership perspective, [00:42:00] but also, in the same conversation of expansion and stretching.

[00:42:05] Catarina Andrade: And there's been times when we'll talk about something. It could be golden. It could be program or a new transmission that's coming through and we're feeling into the the investment for it, the exchange, the energy exchange for the. I don't want to like to use the word value because these things are invaluable.

[00:42:29] Catarina Andrade: But [00:42:30] the exchange, because we are living in a world where we exchange, and I think one of the things that really strikes me is. When we get really clear on, okay, this service, the exchange is this, and it's always a stretch because we're ever stretching and because we're ever recognizing the power of the work that we do in the world.

[00:42:53] Catarina Andrade: And sometimes you'll say to me, yes this is when we are, this is the exchange, but I'm not [00:43:00] there yet. I need to wait until I feel that I'm there to then share that. And so, I wanted to just explore like what actually is going on internally and energetically for you, for you to kind of do that, that energetic upgrade in that frequency of receiving and wealth and openness to receiving higher.

[00:43:28] Catarina Andrade: And [00:43:30] wider yeah exchange of abundance, exchange of wealth. For the work that you're doing in the world, because as you stretch, as the work stretches, also the capacity to receive stretches. And so I'd love to hear a little bit more about what is it that one day it's like, no, no, no, the, I'm not there at that price yet.

[00:43:52] Catarina Andrade: And then a day or two later it's like, it's here, it's landed. Let's move ahead with that. 

[00:43:58] Homaya: What [00:44:00] comes to me so strong when you were speaking about it is I met my man when I was 36 and I of course were dating and a different short and long relationship,

[00:44:17] Homaya: and I was present in all the relationship that I was with the. The most open heart that I could be at that time,

[00:44:29] Homaya: [00:44:30] but I was never heartbroken when a relationship ended

[00:44:34] Homaya: because I knew the love of my life before I met him. I knew him. I knew the feeling. I knew the depth. I knew

[00:44:52] Homaya: I just knew it inside of me. So it's not that when I met [00:45:00] other mans, I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to date you because. It feels so real, but it's still not that. It's like, yeah, yeah, we are going to be here together. We are going to do that. It's going to be real, real. And it's either we are going to make it or it will have another form.

[00:45:20] Homaya: So this freedom of form is the key for me. The willingness to be [00:45:30] really present, knowing that we are creating, you are creating inside and inside out. So everything already exists inside. All the formulas of the universe are already here. All there's nothing in the universe that exists that is not already yours.

[00:45:51] Homaya: And even I would say that is not already alive within you. Everything is here. Everything is alive. [00:46:00] Everything is mine. It's already here. Then it is a play of attention and it is a play of connection, and it is a play of recognition of knowing that it is here and knowing that it is forming itself from the ether into the real 3D experience.

[00:46:23] Homaya: It is forming itself and as it is forming itself, it might just get closer and closer and closer and [00:46:30] closer. It could be that that would be, and it could be that it will shapeshift, and some people will say that it's a dying experience. No, it's not a dying experience. It's a shapeshifting experience. And in the shapeshifting experience, I am willing for it to form it itself, and I am holding space for it to form itself through me, and I'm okay.

[00:46:59] Homaya: That [00:47:00] it will form itself fast, or it will form itself slow, or it will form itself in layers, or it will form itself in patches or like I know it, and as I know it, I am here to support. It to come to life through me, and I'm also allowing or supporting my human

[00:47:27] Homaya: to be a greater [00:47:30] extension of God's light to experience it, not only to witness it passing through me, but really to experience it When I met Yuval it was it. It was it point at the end. So I mean, like you and everyone who's listening, how many times in your life have you sensed it in a whisper? How many times in your life have [00:48:00] you got the messages? How many times in your life have you heard something? Do you really need the universe to repeat it a thousand times or is it enough that the universe will say it one time and you got it as a truth frequency and you got it as God's frequency?

[00:48:21] Homaya: And then you are willing to name yourself as a co-creator and to name yourself as an. I say the [00:48:30] words honestly, as an ally of God,

[00:48:33] Catarina Andrade: it's a choice, and then it stops being about you. I think we get so caught up in when we're creating things. Whatever 

[00:48:46] Catarina Andrade: they be, be it creating the relationships or creating the program or creating the live event or whatever it is in our role as 

[00:48:57] Catarina Andrade: the creator and shaper of it [00:49:00] again, as opposed to it exists, can we accept that it exists and let it be simpler in that way?

[00:49:10] Catarina Andrade: Again, still being a co-creator, not 

[00:49:15] Catarina Andrade: surrendering, not flopping like a dead fish, you know, 

[00:49:20] Homaya: an active surrender. It's an 

[00:49:22] Catarina Andrade: an active surrender, still alert, still awake, still engaged, still in [00:49:30] action, as well as inaction. 

[00:49:33] Homaya: Exactly. It's an active surrender. You're actively surrendering to your light. You're actively surrendering to your truth.

[00:49:44] Homaya: You're actively moving towards your vision as your vision is coming towards you. Walking towards you. This idea that we're supposed to be served can be really misunderstood. [00:50:00] We are being definitely. Served we're being definitely taken care of, but if we're not here, there would be no one to be serving.

[00:50:11] Catarina Andrade: Yes, yes. Yeah. It reminds me of, I always say the miracle frequency, you get to be carried. You're still in movement, but you get. And that reminds me also of a mother with a baby in their womb. It's like [00:50:30] the mother is here, she's caring for you, she's feeding you, she's providing for you, you're taken care of, and you're growing and you're evolving.

[00:50:39] Catarina Andrade: It's all part of a natural unfolding, but you're still there. Otherwise, there wouldn't be no child, no baby in the womb to for the mother to be nurturing into life.

[00:50:53] Catarina Andrade: Homaya, thank you for sharing your wisdom as [00:51:00] always, and also to be open to sharing some of the backend workings from the leadership and business perspective that I think are so valuable for people to witness and to see. This way of creating the world. And for anybody who's listening if you're still lucky, there may still be some golden tickets available.[00:51:30]

[00:51:31] Catarina Andrade: So we'll include that in the links as well for you to check out and to feel into, if maybe that's a stretch for you that you're feeling Oh. I feel I need to be in that place and just like those people. Last year, I think it was from 10 or 11 countries. Yeah. Somehow within the span of two or three weeks, people came in from all over the world.

[00:51:54] Catarina Andrade: Many of them didn't even know why they ended up in Portugal. They just 

[00:51:58] Catarina Andrade: showed up. 

[00:51:59] Homaya: [00:52:00] One person got the ticket because before she had a passport.

[00:52:04] Catarina Andrade: I know. It's crazy. And people traveling without passports, people showing up in Portugal, calling me saying, hi, I'm in Portugal, want to meet up? I'm like, oh, I think you're here for this event.

[00:52:16] Catarina Andrade: You know, the force is so, magnetic in that sense. So I'm really excited for what's already been created and is being created. I'm excited for anybody who shows up. And Homaya, thank you so much for [00:52:30] taking the time to give us a bit of glimpse into the magic of creating with light. It's been an absolute pleasure.

[00:52:39] Catarina Andrade: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

[00:52:40] Homaya: You're welcome. Thank 

[00:52:42] Homaya: you for the co-creation. 

[00:52:43] Catarina Andrade: Bye everyone.

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