Review Session #1: Exploring Katische's Happiest Moments of her Soul

Katische Haberfield is joined by life coach Cindy Porter to delve into a review of Katische's happiest and transformative soul experiences. 

• The session features a detailed regression case study where Katische explores her past lives, encountering intriguing characters and situations. 
• The discussion touches on themes of soul rescue missions, angelic nurseries, and striking moments of realization. 
• With humor and introspection, Katische gains insights into her soul's happiest memories, shedding light on the intricacies of her spiritual journey.

A friend from a past life is calling to say hello!  Will you answer the call?☎️ 

Join Katische for a fun and light-hearted session where she channels a past life friend of yours who has a positive message to bring through.

10 minutes channeling time. Join us for the fun, or apply to become a guest.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Welcome to the Infinite Life with Getit Haberfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey, exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me, and please don't forget to like and subscribe. And most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Welcome back to the Infinite Life with Kati Chapterfield Podcast. And this week we have Cindy Porter, life coach, who is coming back to help me go through my own happiest memories moments of my soul sessions. Cindy, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you. That is a mouthful. Now Cindy and I are simply it is, isn't it? Cindy and I are simply going to review the two sessions, and then when I see something significant, or Cindy sees something significant, like all the other participants on this season, we will pause and have a discussion about it. So we're looking forward to this because it has proven interesting, fascinating, and valuable.

SPEAKER_08 2:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 2:56

I'll take it away, Cindy.

SPEAKER_08 2:57

I'll let you lead. Thank you. So we'll start the recording. We'll start the playback of uh your first session.

SPEAKER_07 3:09

Well I saw black boots with buckles down the side, and then I saw my feet sitting.

SPEAKER_05 3:30

A step down. But it was like black rubber. And it was like, if you could imagine, I haven't ever been in a helicopter, but just say you were sitting on the edge of a helicopter and your feet were on the edge, and then you were gonna go jump out.

SPEAKER_08 3:51

So if you feel like you're you're in the air force or the army or something of that nature?

SPEAKER_05 3:59

No, because it looks like I'm going to jump down into a planet.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 4:10

So if you look out from your seated position, do you see blue sky or what do you see?

SPEAKER_07 4:20

It's like wispy clouds. And then the outline of a curve shaped planet or like an astronaut seas, but I can't make out what the planet is yet.

SPEAKER_05 4:41

It's just that it's a planet and it's got a lot of blue, a lot of water. That's as far as I can see so far.

SPEAKER_06 4:48

Okay. So let's move the helicopter or the vehicle closer to the surface and bring it down and down closer to the surface so that you're ready to jump off.

SPEAKER_09 5:13

And when you're ready, take the leap.

SPEAKER_06 5:32

It doesn't appear to be appears to be making a crunchy sound when I put my boot down. So crystalline type. More of a dried out crunchy. Okay. What else can you see around you? Sounds stupid.

SPEAKER_05 6:11

The word rover came to my mind like a rover, a robotic dog to accompany me.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

Like a little a little robot dog, yeah. Yeah, like it can snip out smells of poisonous gases.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Right.

SPEAKER_06 6:41

Okay. So that I can activate a switch or something to add a filter to my face mask so that I don't breathe it in. A dog is not a humanoid like me. It's more of a sentient technology.

SPEAKER_08 7:25

So more along the lines of an android, a sentient android. Yeah, I guess so.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

And I sense it has accompanied me on these sort of missions before.

SPEAKER_06 7:43

So he's my companion, you could say. Yeah. He's sort of my I guess guide dog, you want to say?

SPEAKER_05 7:56

Like he not only sniffs out the poisonous gases, but he Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_06 8:48

I couldn't or wouldn't go. So I see a lot of ships leaving the planet.

SPEAKER_05 9:04

And this one sort of this person being sort of was either afraid or refused or something, and the sniffer dog is helping me sniff out the path to where they are. So what I what I meant by ships was what I meant by ships was spaceships, not ocean ships.

SPEAKER_10 9:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:42

So they weren't float, the ships weren't on the ocean surrounding the planet, they were up in the sky.

SPEAKER_08 9:48

Yeah. Um I think we figured that out a bit further along. Like it it didn't come to me straight away there, although I did have uh I was uh suspect that that's probably what you were talking about at that time. Um but uh yeah, it became much clearer as as the session went on. Um I actually made a note further down in my notes, um which is a a little bit plain, but she likes big ships in space. She does like big ships in space, apparently. Which was one of my notes that I made that uh made you happy as as we went on. So yeah, um, it becomes much clearer as as the recording goes along. Um uh I thought it was interesting that you called your um little uh sentient android dog. Um firstly the words you used originally were things like uh sniffer dog and guide dog, um, but then you mentioned about it being your companion. Um it was like a jewel role.

SPEAKER_05 11:01

Like I felt like uh uh he helped me do my task. Yeah. Um, and he was also a bit like a work colleague, do you know what I mean? When you work for the same office and you have a work friendship, um, and you develop some camaraderie and professional relationships towards you, but I guess the longer you work with somebody, they get the more you get to know them. Um, and um so I guess I'd worked with this dog for so long that it felt like a uh wrong terminology, but a workplace pet.

SPEAKER_08 11:39

So the connection becomes much stronger um the more you work with them, yeah. Yeah, okay. We'll keep going.

SPEAKER_05 11:47

Yeah, that's why I sort of laughed because it's not like the ghosts, but they're not dead, but you know what I mean? Like I do, but the soul likes to rest. Oh well, I find that funny, but it is funny. I think it gives you joy because demons say that you shouldn't rescue people, that they have to rescue themselves. Yeah, I seem to uh be here again rescuing somebody, even when they don't want to be rescued, but they do want to be rescued, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_08 12:21

I'm gonna stop there because I thought that was an important uh statement that you made. Um, your soul obviously does like to rescue and help. Um, and uh your comment, humans say um they shouldn't rescue people, they should rescue themselves. Uh, I don't know how that struck you, but for me I found that um a little bit funny, being that uh in my beliefs and understandings, we are all one. So you rescuing what seems to be somebody else is actually you rescuing yourself anyway, in the huge big overall picture of things, and uh that really um gave me a little giggle on the inside. I don't know about you.

SPEAKER_05 13:12

Yeah, I saw it as an interesting comment because we do see things quite differently, but I saw it very specifically from um the point of view of so this is me on the chair as a human being. This is one slice of the soul uh who has chosen to be in human form, and this other fellow who um is uh doing a job has a very different view of um an opinion because he only knows the opinion of what he's meant to do as a job, yeah. And so I've got a feeling like that here in Earth is having an experience, and up there, wherever there is, he, whatever his name is, is doing a job. And so we would have differing opinions because he would think it was funny that I'm using not funny ha ha but quirky that humans have a different opinion to him, but he understands that um it's just part of the experience that our soul has chosen. So, yeah, when I look at these sessions, um I view it like very much of the flower, the sunflower, and this is me, and me and me, and me, me, me, and me, and I don't worry about the the universe and the rest of the world because I'm trying to understand me, which is interesting because as we go through this session, it felt like there was a lot more of universal wisdom and knowledge to be shared, but yet I had a very focus on me, which is understandable.

SPEAKER_08 14:51

Yeah, my session, right? Yep, absolutely. And well, that's exactly it. It is your session, um, and about your your soul.

SPEAKER_05 15:02

So yeah, but it was very interesting to see it's interesting. I found it different from say a normal Akashic Records or Past Life Regression session, in that uh I had much more of a sense of separate identities.

SPEAKER_08 15:18

Yeah, I did pick up on that. You were very um in this session, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:26

I could it was like um very defined. I could I could see myself as this fellow who was on this task, and then I knew I was Katiche, and I could understand both perspectives at once, which kind of made it uh a little uh like I kept doing a lot more of that uh as I tried to get my human brain to go between the two. But I found it fascinating.

SPEAKER_08 15:54

Yeah, yeah, very interesting, yeah. Okay, shall we move on? Mm-hmm. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 16:02

Uh so I get the image of uh big brave man he's not he has a suit of some sort on an armor of some sort and and is he humanoid?

SPEAKER_05 16:27

He's a man man the word exoskeleton came into my mind, whatever that means, it's like he has a suit on, but it's also part of him. Okay, I've heard that before somewhere and he's sentient but uh to all extent and purposes, he appears like he is the suit, but he's not the suit. Does that make sense? So we can't lift the suit off him, like an astronaut could lift the suit off and bingo, there's a human underneath. This is like the soul is the spirit is inside of his suit. Yeah, and it's mostly black, it's made up of panels that are curved and they're sort of shiny, and he's got uh what we would call a helmet on that seems as though it would have a flip panel to lift up so that you could lift the visor. So the analogy would be when somebody just can I make a point here. Yep. Go ahead. So looking back at this now, I remember how important it was for me to distinguish that we would both probably look very similar if you were to see us side by side, but that I was like this, like a real, like a human with an astronaut suit on, yet he looked like an astronaut and there was nothing underneath because his was sentience, and so that's why I was trying to say my brain was trying to go same, same but different.

SPEAKER_07 18:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 18:31

Yep, and you can put it up and down, but uh that's sort of just decoration because there's no eyes behind there. Does that make sense? It's just the spirit because um when we're human we have this suit which has bones, and you can't flip the lid of our eyes to see eyes, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 18:59

Um we open our eyelids though.

SPEAKER_05 19:03

Yeah, but you know, you don't lift up part of your face to see who's in behind it.

SPEAKER_08 19:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

You just trust that there's a spirit inside the body, right? So this fella has the costume that we would call the costume is his body. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_09 19:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:23

So he chose the fly form of this armored thing.

unknown 19:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_08 19:31

And that's where I finally understood what you were trying to get through, what you said. It took me a little bit to follow through with your explanation of that. Um, yeah. It I think I think with your explanations you got there quite well in the end because you uh clearly explain uh like uh the the for example um my soul is in this humanoid body. We can't see it in there, but it's in there. And uh this uh being that you're describing with the exoskeleton, that the exoskeleton, the armour, is his version of the body, and uh the soul is just inside there, that's it. Um there is nothing in between, so yeah, I think he got there quite well in the end, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

It was complicated to explain because I'm like, I'm a I'm a I'm in a suit, in a suit, and there's my soul.

SPEAKER_08 20:29

It's uh you can see on my face, it's uh a little bit through there, like, hang on, what what'd she say? It was a little bit hard to get my head around it at the start, so yeah, but you did quite well explaining it.

SPEAKER_06 20:43

And so he I see he was sort of on a post, a mission, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:57

His mission was simply to make sure oh I got it the people got on the ships to leave the planet. That was his yeah, and then he was supposed to jump on board the last ship for some known reason he didn't.

SPEAKER_07 21:19

Was it too full?

SPEAKER_05 21:21

Um, no, nothing of that sort.

SPEAKER_08 21:23

It's just was he concerned there was more people?

SPEAKER_05 21:28

Um I don't know the answer, that's why I'm here. I'm here to sort of question him and see why he's still here and to check if he hasn't malfunctioned, so to speak.

SPEAKER_09 21:49

But he's sentient, so how would he malfunction?

SPEAKER_05 21:52

When I say malfunction, I mean like check out hasn't decided to go back like humans would die.

SPEAKER_06 22:01

You know what I mean? Okay, yep.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

So um what I'm confused about is that normally when his sort decide to you would call reincarnate, yeah, they dissolve. Seems like a weird thing, but they dissolve, their costume dissolves, yeah, and they turn back into the white light, yeah, and return to source or some kind of outpost station to receive the next mission because he is a task-based soul, like not an experience-based soul. Does that make sense? He's under instructions, he doesn't so what I was trying to say there is because he doesn't have bones, when a human dies, you're still left with the bones. Um, whereas what I was seeing was that literally everything about him is was like soluble, it just dissolved, which I thought was quite interesting.

SPEAKER_08 23:14

Yeah, it was interesting. I thought it was interesting also, um, but it made perfect sense. Um, because he's it's literally yeah, it's yeah, I don't know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_05 23:27

It's like self combustion, you know, when you see those things on looking into stuff. Yeah, that was the it's I didn't get that analogy at the time, but it's yeah, it's like and you're gone, and there's nothing left of you. No, so then that's it. Yeah, yeah. Yep, he doesn't question, and so that's the anomaly because if he doesn't question, then why is he still here? Um how can somebody who doesn't question suddenly feel an act of defiance or disobedience? It doesn't make sense, yep, and so um it perplexes me, and that is why I decided to come check it out rather than just say wait for him to naturally decide to disintegrate or to uh return to the mothership of that species. Um so that's where I am going now with the dog to check it out, and then maybe see if he's there because somebody else refused to get on the ship, or something like that, and that probably makes a bit more sense to me. Like he's still trying to convince someone, and that someone sort of said something like, I don't want to go, this is my home, I'm gonna stay here and die. And he says something like I don't think that's in my programming, uh I don't think I'm allowed to let you do that. Um, I might pick you up and throw you on the ship, and this being says something like, But I have free will, and he says, Well, that's not in my programming because it says here that there's no free will on this planet, so how can that be? So that's where we're at, and yeah. What I also find fascinating is that I could have just stepped into this scene and gone, Here's here's the robot. Yeah. But obviously, to my soul, or part of my soul, it's very important to do the description and the explanation.

SPEAKER_08 26:06

I was gonna say, you like to I I know this just from you being Katish.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 26:13

You like to find out all the details down to the nth degree, um, to find out all the little nuances, all the little whatever along the way, that is just how how you are. That that's how I know you as. So it made perfect sense to me that you wanted to put in all that work first of everything to get to the actual rescuing part of the um of the the lifetime. So yeah. It's very much you, which is what I found fascinating about these sessions as as they've gone along.

SPEAKER_05 26:58

Because also you can look at this from the well, how do I see myself? Yeah, and I would see myself as say compared to an accountant or a business strategist, not particularly detail oriented, um which is just a misperception, because actually anyone else who would look at me would say, Well, according to what I can see, you're very structured and method methodological. And I find that when I see this, it makes a lot more sense. And I'm like, actually, when I stop resisting myself and I get things in order more than even more than what other people would think, and I get my paperwork done and I put in procedures, as much as I feel those procedures are, I don't know, uh constricting or they're not allowing me freedom to do ad lib or whatever, it's actually makes me feel more comfortable. Yeah, and so I function better and I perform better knowing that I've covered everything, but that's not what I I see myself as in comparison to other people, because I don't know, it's just uh an internal mechanism of saying, well, I think say a lawyer is more structured than me, but actually I'm very structured.

SPEAKER_08 28:23

You are I would definitely say you are, but especially compared to someone like me who is probably the complete opposite of that. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

So it just gave me a permission slip to be structured. Yeah, but but it also gave me it gave something like kind of goes, Do you know what? It's not being nerdy, or it's not being um retentive of you know, like not being like I had self-classified that certain people who follow all the rules and regulations and checkpoints are boring, or they're uh you know, and so what I'm realizing is no, they're not. That was a judgment, and therefore I can give myself the freedom to go, you're just doing yourself what makes you comfortable and doesn't wake you up in the middle of the night, and they are too, so don't yeah, you don't you don't need the permissions because that's just what you do normally, and so don't stop trying to be airy, fairy, whatever, when the way that you want to go is the structured way, yeah. So, yeah, it was just like a mental permission note to see that.

SPEAKER_08 29:40

That that's really actually that's a really good insight for you going forward, um because uh the more we can be our natural true self, the better off we all are. That's yeah, that's amazing. That's awesome, actually. Really cool.

SPEAKER_07 30:01

Uh we go. Let's see what we see.

SPEAKER_05 30:07

Okay, so I'm talking kind of strange because he sends me this input of stream of thought message.

SPEAKER_10 30:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

That I can sort of understand while I'm walking towards him, but it does sort of interfere uh with my transmission to you because I'm processing two things at once and trying to figure out things because I think in a more linear fashion than the girl Katinish and goes around and round in circles. Um, much more like Cindy. Um, but it seems very foreign to her, so she wants to walk around a bit in her mind for a bit before we get there, and I'm trying to let her go bye-bye so that I can be more fully in control, but she doesn't like losing control because she doesn't want to be that is done and so what I also got was that he's even more structured than I am, because he thinks I go round and round in circles.

SPEAKER_08 31:23

Um, extremely interesting. Um, because to me, him describing you going round and round in circles was you trying to structure and organize like you like you do, like find where all the bits fit, right? And he's getting frustrated with you trying to do that part when he's got his yeah, well, so he had a checklist, yeah, and then I my human was trying to put all the bits and pieces in, and he's like, just calm down, I've got the checklist, I know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 32:02

Yeah, exactly. Right.

SPEAKER_08 32:05

It was um, yeah, I found it quite fascinating actually.

SPEAKER_05 32:09

Ready to go kaboo. Yep, and then she does not die, of course. She has done her time being that planet, yeah. And she has provided great service. Can we just skip a bit? I don't know. She has been directing community.

SPEAKER_08 32:32

Yeah, I just feel like it felt like that jump, didn't it? Yeah. I did just let's see. I'm not sure where this is at, so let me just play and we'll see where we're at.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

Through time and space. Nope. I think we're in the 40s, yeah. I don't know what jumped. Um something in the aura. Yeah, no, I keep going back. Stuck. Um about 47 minutes, I think. Okay. Yep. Uh the father, father, father, mother, mother. I don't know. Sexual relationship thing here to have a baby. I think it's more do you want me to go back further? Yeah, yeah, because we have um we haven't even discovered the the baby yet. Sorry, I can edit this out. Sorry, mate.

SPEAKER_08 33:27

No, no, sorry. I I don't know what happened there. I don't understand why. Well, okay, I'm gonna try at 44. We'll see how we go.

SPEAKER_05 33:41

Not enjoyed that experience.

SPEAKER_08 33:44

No. Okay, back further.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Uh I don't think I'm allowed to let you do that. Um I might pick you up and throw you on the ship.

SPEAKER_08 33:56

So it's further back, isn't it? What the hell happened there? Because we were in the forties. Yeah, it's something we go. There's something strange going on, right?

SPEAKER_05 34:11

Uh what I'm confused about is that normally when his sort decide to you would call reincarnate. Yep. They're so it must be microseconds because we're talking and we stop it, it feels like there's a lot longer. So it must be like 41 or something and suddenly feel an act of defiance or disobedience. It doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 34:46

And so um no, because that's back then. Yeah, just let it just let it play for a minute and we'll I'll just post-edit it, but it won't be very long. I I decided to um check it out rather than just say wait for him to naturally decide to disintegrate or to uh return to the mothership of that species. Um so that's where I am going now with the dog to check it out, and then maybe see if he's there because somebody else refused to get on the ship, or something like that, and that probably makes a bit more sense to me. Like he's still trying to convince someone, and that someone sort of said something like, I don't want to go, this is my home, I'm gonna stay here and die. And he says something like, uh, I don't think that's in my programming, uh, I don't think I'm allowed to let you do that. Um I might pick you up and throw you on the ship, and this being says something like, But I have free will, and he says, Well, that's not in my programming because he says here that there's no free will on this planet, so how can that be? So that's where we're at, and yeah we go. Let's see what we see. Okay, so I'm talking kind of strange because he sends me this input of stream of thought message, yeah, that I can sort of understand while I'm walking towards him, but it does sort of interfere uh with my transmission to you because I'm processing two things at once and trying to figure out things because I think in a more linear fashion than the girl Katish who goes around and round in circles. I'm much more like Cindy, but it seems very foreign to her, so she wants to walk around a bit in her mind for a bit before we get there, and I'm trying to let her go bye-bye so that I can be more fully in control, but she doesn't like losing control because she doesn't want to be rescued because she's always the rescuer or something. Doesn't seem to fit into this incarnation as her, not her pattern in this incarnation, which is why she's very uncomfortable being herself because she's had not say that loud. Been in many particular situations where she's had to be bailed out by someone and she's not enjoyed that experience. She's much more enjoyable. Sorry. Two transitions coming in moment just one second.

SPEAKER_06 38:45

Okay, so he seems to have a small child in his arms.

SPEAKER_08 39:01

I'm gonna stop it there for a second because I thought it was very interesting um how uncomfortable you got uh at the idea of being r having to be rescued and not being in that control um position and how um he wouldn't even say whatever it was um because you didn't want that. Obviously Katish didn't want that put out over the airways and and shared with us all. Um I found that really, really interesting um just from a personal point of view to start with, um that uh in that state still um uh I think it was because I think it was because my uh he was going does not fit with happiest moments of my soul. Yeah. That's what I was wondering. Yeah. That's what I was wondering because uh I know when I was doing my sessions, I went with it mostly, but I my uh self as well and my higher self uh did have this conflict of how is this happiest? You know, it doesn't fit uh with happiest, like it's it doesn't seem happy. Um uh, you know, particularly with some of the things that I brought forward. Um, and so I can completely understand that conflict uh going on because it it's like it's wrong, right?

SPEAKER_05 40:38

Yeah, and it felt like um the feeling I got then when I watched it back did back is don't get sidetracked, keep going. Do you know what I mean? Like, okay, we could we could spend a long time just talking about what has happened to her in this incarnation, which has made her feel out of control, but that has been sad for her, not happy, and so therefore not relevant. That's another session. Yep, like that's a therapy session.

SPEAKER_08 41:05

Yeah. Yep, makes perfect sense because yeah, that's I I experienced similar occurrences uh during my uh regressions as well, and it was very interesting. Okay, let's keep moving.

SPEAKER_05 41:20

The two incarnate on this location as it was being evacuated, which does not seem right according to the man being holding the baby because that seems odd too just say it out loud. It seems as though I think I'm getting an image in Kate's mind so that she can try and understand it, but she sees the image of like a mother dying in childbirth but still having the placenta and the cord attached, and so the thing is if we put a dead being on the ship, uh that would have distressed the other passengers because they did not know she was in active seeking of a child, uh, because she did not communicate the wish to have a child to anybody. I don't think it's the same sort of how do you say mother, father, father, father, mother, mother, uh sexual relationship thing here to have a baby. I think it's much more mmm not like you put in an order for a child, but sort of like that.

SPEAKER_10 43:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 43:21

And so I don't know if she was stupid or ignorant or just way too plain hopeful for this planet, but it seems like maybe there was a lot of paperwork, and mmm, she just went ahead anyway and said, I'll just do this, don't worry about the planet. And so the order came through, and somebody said, Yes, I'll take that, and they boom, got born, and oops, it was just as the ship was leaving. So, what to do? Disaster, help, distress, quick, uh you okay? And oops, no, it seems it was her dying wish, and that's why the robot person man was confused because how can she have a wish? Do you know what I mean? He doesn't have wishes, and so she somehow has some kind of a contract, and she died, she got her dying wish, and it was literally interpreted by her eternal mindstream as being a dying wish. And that seems confusing for me because it seems like there was some kind of remnants from another lifetime. Uh, because this is not what happens on this particular planet, there are no soul contracts, so we think it's smacks of um something in the aura that got stuck. Um, I believe you would call it a. Limiting belief.

SPEAKER_10 45:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 45:33

Um, that has caused a contract to be activated in a planet where there is no such things. So we here we have this robot man carrying a newborn baby of a species that has now evacuated a planet, and because it didn't match his instructions, he sort of mmm malfunctioned and went uh like that, uh, baby, and the ship went by and he's like left holding the baby.

SPEAKER_08 46:06

Gonna stop it there. Several things there um sparked my uh curiosity and interest. Um one was the fact that he's saying that particular planet had no soul contracts, no anything. Um that seemed really interesting to me, because I don't know, I struggle getting my brain around that um in in total. Um the other thing was a sense of humor coming through, like left holding the baby, like literally left holding the baby. I thought was uh yeah, quite clever.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

Um yeah, I don't I don't think we're supposed to understand. I think that um yeah, I I think we're just supposed to say there is humour. I I like to use humor as well, my soul likes humor. It's kind of like an intellectual humor, it's not a yes.

SPEAKER_08 47:11

Very much so. Yeah, very much so. Um I think that's a big part because uh listening to this and uh other parts through it, it that's very much what goes on. Um there is that uh that uh humorous side uh to things, and you're right, it's a very intellectual humor that uh you like to use. Um I find it fascinating insight into what makes up Katiche.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

Well, yeah. Like likewise for your sessions, yeah. It's fascinating.

SPEAKER_08 47:44

It it's yeah, like it all, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:47

And I think also because this was not the how do souls work and how do soul contracts work and how do task lifetimes and task souls and experiential soul souls work, that's why we didn't get the explain explanation. This is about happiness. Exactly, right?

SPEAKER_08 48:01

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Look at you holding the baby. Okay, let's get back to it.

SPEAKER_05 48:08

Literally, and it seems that there could be a speck of something also here, because it does seem a little bit funny that this mother died, had a baby, gave it to the robot who doesn't quite understand, and it seems a little bit like a sticky spider's web to me.

SPEAKER_08 48:29

Like, what do you mean by sticky spider web?

SPEAKER_05 48:35

Like all three of them possibly knew each other in another existence when he was not a task-based being, but was an experiential being, and so uh when you don't kill all the remnants and you decide to time makes it difficult, but when you decide to leave a planet and you've had enough, you wish to seek somewhere else, and you do not check in uh prior to reincarnating on a new uh planet, you bypass the procedure, and the man who does the stamping of approvals or reincarnation. Uh you call it or we call it whatever, doesn't matter, doesn't need a term. Then the stamping process that Cindy has seen once before in a session means that we have done our checks and balances, and we sort of have gone. Yes, this is okay. You have nothing left to experience here. You have done what you came to do, you have learned that karma is a concept of the mind.

SPEAKER_04 50:16

You have freed your mind, you are not holding anybody back, you can't see any so-called gross versions of you down there.

SPEAKER_05 50:31

I just saw like a sailor looking out to sea, like a big binocular, it's like that's sort of we scan the surface of the planet to see if you're up there or down there or stuck in a hole somewhere. Sometimes it can be difficult after the weather events, and we sort of have to put our feelers out to look under the ocean and uh tectonic plates some plates that go up and down tectonic and sometimes we do even send messages to mother guy and the elementals if it's a big search and maybe even some messages go into the earth with a boom and a crack, and uh it's kind of like sorry, seems silly to me. And t-shirts are using it's like ants scurrying with these messages, yeah, and it sends out a search party, uh, which then according to whichever planet then sends out the rescue spirits of light, and they go searching through time and space. It can be like swimming through an ocean where you're searching for fragments of the soul, because some souls are very impatient, and with some planets there are very big cues, and so there are souls pressing the buzzer and going, I'm ready to go, and other ones saying, Hi, I'm still looking, and I don't know why that voice came. So funny to me seeing all the different costumes and all the different roles, and um so here we are back rescuing somebody who didn't clear their auric field before departing a planet, and it's caused this situation, and here I am cleaning up the mess again. But it's not really a mess because there's a cute little baby involved.

SPEAKER_08 53:08

I thought that was interesting, uh, cleaning up the mess again, like that particular choice of words. Um because I couldn't tell if that was a tiny bit of resentment in there with having to do that, just the way it came across, or or what? Do you remember any feelings about it?

SPEAKER_05 53:31

Well, I think there was quite a few plays on words there, yeah. So, for example, being left with the baby, yeah. I could feel myself like at the back of me, I don't even know how to say that, but somewhere having a good laugh. Like the analogy that flashed through my mind was sorry if I want to be mean, sucked in the robot or the the dude hold left holding the baby, yeah, karmically got that baby because in another lifetime when he wasn't this sentient robot astronaut man, he might have been married to this lady and he ran off and she was left holding the baby. Um, and so when I said left again, the purpose of this is about happiness, but I can see that because this personality that we're talking about is very efficient, he seems to find it funny that left cleaning up the mess again, but maybe, and I don't know because it wasn't the purpose of the session, I had been involved in these with people these people, and maybe some other time I was cleaning up their mess, or they were cleaning up my mess, or I was left with calling the baby, or do you know what I mean? Like it's an act of some kind of extra personal involvement in that, but I don't know what it is. Yeah, and so I found it amusing because that portion of me doesn't get involved in the emotions, and therefore, ha ha ha ha, they've done it again. Yep.

SPEAKER_08 55:06

I also I also find it interesting that um like this is about the happiest moments of the soul, right? But I also find it interesting that a lot of this um uh smacks of like uh cleaning up all the little bits, putting them all back in order, getting it all back into neat order and everything, which is very much how you like to function, even though I don't know that up until now you've been prepared to admit that um so much, but it is how you tend to function and uh function really well. So I function mentally like that, but physically I don't.

SPEAKER_05 55:50

So for example, um I'm not a person who has a space in my house for everything, you know. Like I remember people once commenting, well, the way you get a structured and organized house is that you have a place for everything. And me going, How do you know that? That's impossible. Um, but uh recently I've been like, Oh, I need a place for everything. Interesting, interesting, okay. Yeah, so as I've got to know myself more, I've realized that disorder and chaos, which other people wouldn't see as chaos, makes me feel disorganized, even though the world is a chaotic place and you can't organize it within the space of my existence. I find that I have to compartmentalize and get things organized to a degree. But uh, as Katish, um, for example, it's like, well, I don't feel like it's my job, uh, even though I'm the mum. Do you know what I mean? Like I've always had this sensation of, isn't there someone else that takes care of that? And that's very interesting because this personality, this avatar is one is like an example. It's like I've always been looking for the me that does the jobs.

unknown 57:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:12

Very interesting. Yeah, so mentally, I'm very mentally compartmentalized and strategic and yeah, structured. The physical people would go, what?

SPEAKER_08 57:26

Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

So all all I have to do is to tell the robot man, good job. Well done. Seems out of place, but we'll take the baby and you can come with me. And so we're stepping back up onto the ship.

SPEAKER_06 58:05

How does this make you feel?

SPEAKER_05 58:16

Well, sort of smiley. Smiley is a word. Because it's satisfying to me. Because tick done, solution found for the moment, and now I can hand the baby and the robot over to where whoever is in charge of them, that's not me. They can work out the anomaly. Um, that's not my job. My job is just to find these stuck people, and the scan of the planet, I see lots of people. They're sort of like um in uniform, but different to mine. It's a ship uniform, and they have like mm. Are you familiar with Star Wars? Yep. Um I don't know which team they're on, but on one of the teams the people inside the ship have like these caps on. So they have those kind of caps on and those kind of uniforms. Yep. But they're not what I would call stormtroopers because that's just an analogy, but they're the mmm inside people, and they have their inside uniforms on, and they have been checking uh the planet with their equipment, and they can see no more stuck souls. So that planet will shortly explode, but we will be a long way. Yep. Okay, so I had a very clear analogy then and also now, which is that I didn't belong to that ship, that I came there to do the task. And if you could imagine interesting, okay. So the best way to describe it is a time traveler. So basically, but not a time traveler, so like a Doctor Who, but not a Doctor Who. So I go in my whatever it is to each different location, which may be a different planet or dimension or whatever it is, and I turn up to do my job, and then uh I take whatever I find and take it up to the relevant ship, and the relevant team looks after it, and then off I go, off I go again.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:56

Yep, makes sense. Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:04

And that's why those ships had to come. Yep. Um there's someone else, it's not my job, who does look for the trajectory of two things. One where all the sentience on this planet is going because everything is sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:29

Was is okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:37

Was involved in the development of the planet.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:40

That that was interesting. Was is like that's the whole time thing, humanoid humans time, where time is not a thing, um elsewhere. I I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:55

And decided to stay in the role of a rock or uh a water mass or for example a blade of grass.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:07

And now that their role is functioned, they just need to get the sleeping beauty that is inside the middle of the planet. She's like the mother guy of Earth, and when the sleeping beauty, so the the crust has to fall away, yeah, and all those sentiences they move on to their next assignment. So an observer in space, what you call it, space might call it what do you call that? Meteor or rock, yeah, um comet. Depends on what their functionality is, and they whoosh off into their new direction, and as they fall away and the gases come out, it heats it up so it can remove the bubble of protection from around the beautiful not mermaid. What did I say? Not princess, what do you call being who is like Mother Guy that she lives in the middle of the planet and stays there until the planet is done and ready to go kaboo. Yep, and then she does not die, of course. She has done her time being that planet, yeah, and she has provided great service because uh she has been directing communications, yeah. Uh whilst being in this bubble, so somebody would see uh I just showed Ketish. Uh they took a planet, a photo of the planet Venus the other day, and it was posted on Facebook, and Kitish saw two faces in the planet Venus, and she has been there in a regression with Megan before, and so now you can she can see that those faces were real and that they represent the sentience of the planet, yeah. And so what happens is that even in the middle of Venus, there is the beautiful lady again, yeah, in a bubble, but you can see her from the outside, and that is because her spirit is not trapped in the bubble. It is as like right now, where I am talking to you, but she is lying on the couch. Yep. And so the insight here, because I was like It's a big insight, yeah. It makes me happy. I've written down, it makes me happy to appear intelligent and informed, even if it's not my area of specialty. Yeah, because he's uh clearly said, I don't I'm not in charge of this, but let me explain it to you anyway. That would make me happy to explain it to you.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:49

Yeah, which is what you really enjoy doing in helping people, helping people to know and understand things and yeah why you've done so much of the work you've done sharing it out with your podcasts, just like these one, this one. Um, yeah, so much. Um yeah. This hand movement has been interesting. You do it a lot. Um, yeah. I th I think it's all part of the trying to get the explanation across, trying to explain things, like I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:28

Yeah, she has not left her body, yeah. Uh but her other mission person being that I am can communicate. Yeah. Kind of like sending a morse code, you know what I mean? And so she's a sleeping beauty inside the planet, but she also sends her spirit around the planet to direct, yeah, and work with the beings, um, the elementals, yeah, or whatever they turn themselves. Each planet has a different set of names. Um the rocks and the fishes and uh whatever they have on that planet, yeah. Uh to give directions, and then there's um more bossy part of her spirit, which is the second image Katish saw on Venus. Which is in charge of communicating with the the beings that choose to be the beings of that planet. You know what I mean? Yep. Um, and that becomes a more bossy part of the spirit because the bossinesses don't do that or do do that. And sometimes she doesn't have to do that because there is another person like Cindy was, who was the bossy one who came back in when there was trouble. Uh but sometimes the beautiful being inside the planet has another avatar person of their soul, slice of their soul, that is really willing to be the bossy person. So they're both inside the planet and they visit the planet. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_10 1:08:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

You would call it a jewel incarnation? Yep. And some so sometimes she can be the beautiful maiden and the bossy maiden. Sorry, she thought that was funny. All at once. The beautiful bossy maiden, and also the wofty wavy, I love you, I love the earth, I love the rocks, all at once. So very contrasting ways to express the spirit. Well, I don't really know what I was where I was going. Oh, yes, so the planet will go kaboom, but it's okay, the beautiful maiden will be fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:10

So I thought that was interesting, okay. All of that explanation, which didn't really have much to do with anything of why we were really here, just to get to, you know, the planet will go kaboom and the and the maiden will be fine. But I think the whole point behind that is that that is one part of what makes your soul happy, is the details and the explanation and the education and everything. That's just me from an outsider's observation point of view. That's just what I think that that's about. But agree, yeah. Are you able to help me understand why um we're seeing this event as part of the happiest moments of Kateha's soul? Because baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:15

We like babies. Our soul likes babies.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:20

Babies of all forms, baby chickens, baby humans, baby cats, baby beings, baby stars, baby fairies.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:39

Baby everything, we like babies. We don't like to watch the birth. It's quite icky.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:49

We do like the cuddles. We like the cuddles and we like the giggles. It makes us feel quite stupid, like funny, stupid, giggly, silly little girl. And that brings us joy. We do like to play with the beings, and we do try to be with baby beings all the time. But sometimes we have oh dear, yes. Hard, hard, sad, sad earth incarnations when all the babies did die, many babies did die in one lifetime.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:37

Especially hard when these were babies where yes, I know Max. She doesn't want to reveal the where there were supposed to be boy babies, and there were no boy babies, and that was troublesome.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:53

That's okay. But we're concentrating on this happy time where she's now rescued a baby, and that is why the babies bring joy, but they also can bring sorrow, and we have to help her balance out um the excitement of baby frogs and cats with baby owls and it doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:24

Newborn wizards and fairies, especially when surrounded by baby situations that involve sorrow, we try to bring in babies of other kinds to bring joy.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:42

Does that make sense? Yes, that sounds lovely. So you're basically saying that uh uh for an example, if a human woman um baby does not survive, you bring in uh maybe a kitty cat, uh, a little kitten, um, to hopefully provide some uh peace uh while they are dealing with the sorrow.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:17

In some situations, we have even brought in a baby dragon, but she has not seen it until she, when she was a boy that time, was much bigger. Okay, and suddenly poof, like puff the magic dragon, there was a big dragon. But the baby dragon is like, I've been here the whole time, and the boy is like, Where did you come from? And so we can't help that, no, of course, but we sent the baby dragon, yeah, and the boy became the dragon's baby, and so baby you, baby me, we're all babies. Um babies bring joy, and in this lifetime she was able to see the baby uh was redirected to oh I see it did not.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:32

Oh, don't do the vote that okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:35

It did have a choice. It could either choose no, don't say it had two options and it chose one of them.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:46

Yep. So basically it wasn't all roses for what happened to that baby afterwards, which is why I got conflicted, but the soul of the baby was okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:57

Okay, that explains a lot because yeah, you were holding back a lot there, and um yeah, because right there I could have cried when I saw what yeah, yeah, because you got that insight, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:11

Okay, which is sounds stupid because of course it chose one, but it's happy. The baby is happy, and I am happy, and so we got to see a baby and sorry, tick done, yeah. So that's right. Don't ask me any more questions, it's done. We got to hell and we made sure her friend who was the beautiful lady inside the planet could also not become stuck, and she got to be safely whatever she did, can't say next, but she was fine too. So all of the energy of that planet was dissolved as if as though in a black hole, but a black hole is also symbolic of a space of creation because energy does not get destroyed, so the energy of all the energies that were the planet were able to be, depending upon whether they were experiential or task-based, directed into a black hole where they went around and around like in a washing machine, and then they came out brand new, like being born again.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:50

So lots of babies and a new baby planet. So even the idea um of a baby planet makes you happy. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:14

Which is interesting. Is there anything else you Because when we did the starseed season, the entire season pretty much was about planets being created. Baby planets. Very interesting. In hindsight, I didn't realize you know, didn't make that connection at the time, obviously, but I want to continue to know or understand from where you are right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:43

Um baby and angels are fun. Okay. Anything else? Want to see a baby angel being born.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:04

That sounds like she would enjoy that.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:06

See, I got the direct correlation right here that when I turned left towards the couch, I was getting information, like just checking to see that this is okay. And then when I turn right, it's like, how about I ask Cindy? I'm having a conversation with Cindy. Do you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, there was definite me knowing at the time that the left went, am I doing it right? Am I checking it off and not saying anything bad? Right is, oh, here's my friend Cindy. I'll ask her, does she like to go see it?

SPEAKER_08 1:18:31

Yeah, right. I would probably enjoy that also, but this isn't today, not me.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:46

Wow. It seems it is an option. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:59

And I'll just say one more thing there because it links back to the point is when you asked the question about why did we see this particular moment, there was another bit there that said we wanted to show her that her friend who was inside that planet that went kaboom was okay. And her meaning Kateach. So obviously, uh he knew that I Katish knew the lady that was in the planet, but Katish Epperfield here right now still doesn't know what that connection was. But because I like to help friends and assist friends, that was important somewhere in my head for me to know that to uh that friend is okay, and so then I correlate that to me asking you then, do you want to see the babies? Is like maybe there was some information about the baby angels or about how I would react about the baby angels that would provide you with assistance as well as me with fun.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:53

Yeah, so it's like that tied in, yeah, that yeah, that helping, yeah. I understand.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:03

Um report. Yeah. Does that sense there are many options?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:21

Oh, there's a baby lion over there too.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:33

No, I don't think we're going to the line.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:37

Because we tried to show her a romantic scene and she saw two lions biting each other's heads off. So I don't think she thinks that's very fun. We even put them in a suit, a wedding suit for the male, and a nice white dress for her, and they went to do the bridal kiss, and she turned into a lion and bit off the face of the other man. So I think that she thinks romance is quite like a fight. So maybe we will do romance later on. Maybe we might do that as the fifth memory. Oh dear, I don't think she's ready for that yet. Happy romance. Oh, what's that? You can't be happy and be married. Don't be stupid.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:33

I thought that that really cracked me up.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:36

Um I thought that was really interesting. Because my net my personality has changed again, has changed now. You can see I've shifted from that guy to a new slice of my soul, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:21:49

And exactly. I and to me that slice of your soul is actually making a bit of fun of Katish and Katish's thoughts around this this uh romance and uh being happy in marriage and everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:07

Yeah, and I what I do get is that although she's not formally introduced, I feel like there's another person there watching with me. Um, and I feel like that in this by my accent, uh that it's like I don't know, but it feels like this wasn't one of my Indian incarnations who had a wonderful marriage, yeah, and his wife talking, and they think it's very funny because they're together, they were there then and they were together, and then now they're trying to help me with that. Interestingly enough, and I won't divulge any more because we'll do the second session as well. But in the second session, when you were taking me into the relaxation and getting me ready, they showed me the bride and the groom again. Yep, and uh I accepted the wedding ring and went up into the chip, the chip, so there was no lines biting each other's head off. And then what we'll see is what what then we were able to access, but just by them being there, at least this couple, it seems to have shifted things for me to be able to see that it can be uh not taken so personally and um can be seen a bit more humorously. And I found myself this week uh since doing this this session, doing a lot more talking to myself going tick dum, like as though I'm channeling that personality, and then also um uh like when I was caught in the hail storm the other day, yeah, and I was driving the first time ever in the hail storm, I found myself channeling his voice going, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, the hail is coming down, audio, oh bloody hell. Um, and I was like, Where's this coming from? And then uh just like going, it's okay, it's okay, we'll get there. Oh, bugger, you know. And I was fine. It's like this personality from that lifetime has been sent to me at the moment to calm me down in stressful situations and to make me laugh. Yeah. Um, yeah. That's really cool though. Like, because nothing broke. The car didn't break in the car start, the hail storm, and we got home safely, and I was able to laugh about it. But um, whereas usually I would have like maybe cried. I would have gone, oh my god, I'm in a car storm, and I, you know, yeah, a hail storm, and oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:40

Well, you know, my beliefs on we're sent what we need at the time, so it makes sense to me. So yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:49

Oh, yes, I see why. Chopping of heads. She's had her head chopped off, and oh, she's being disemboweled, and oh dearie dear, that doesn't fit in with this session, does it? No, we can't show that. We will have to search deeper in her mind. Oh happy, happy love. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:12

It makes me laugh. Why did she choose all these devastations?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:17

Oh dear, silly girl. I was literally crying with laughter. She always does choose the hard path.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:26

Oh, why does she do that? Really?

SPEAKER_08 1:25:30

I thought that was interesting. Yeah, she always does choose the hard path. Yeah. Interesting insight. Because it pleases her? I don't know. That's the only thing that I can think of. I I think that I think the tough challenges are uh something that I think your soul might uh gravitate towards, like likes that that tough challenge. My human doesn't, but you yeah, your human doesn't, but that's what makes it more of a challenge for the soul, I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:04

Um but humans like, let me win the lotto, let me live life on a boat, let me, you know, eat caviar, and the the soul's going, uh-uh, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:16

You needed a lifetime!

SPEAKER_04 1:26:20

That's like, oh dear. That's like eating a whole packet of prunes when you're only a tiny bit constipated. That's a bit silly. Oh dear. Oh that one I should have been laughing. Oh dear.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:53

I probably shouldn't have been laughing either, but it was very funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:57

It's quite funny to me a pair of the Jews are serious down there.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:02

Oh dear, dear.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:08

I don't like that one. I can't even look at that head being stuck on that on that bridge. Oh god, help me. Even though there isn't a God, but oh geez, that one's interesting. Oh yeah, hang on back to the list. I think baby angels are safer, do you know what I mean? The distinct the distinct impression I got. I was gonna say sorry, the distinct impression I got was that I had chosen from his perspective, I had chosen to go into a couple of incarnations with, you know, one person might say, I'm going to go explore money, for example, or love, like he's talking about now. And maybe you might choose to explore a belief system or a thought that we would call a limiting belief. And instead of saying, I'm going to explore this belief about money, I took a whole list in this long and I wanted to do them all at once. And the same with love, right? I need to understand 72 different beliefs that humans can have about love, and I want to do it all in one incarnation.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:15

Yeah. Yeah. So making it like 10 times uh intense uh situation than it needed to be for you to be able to explore that that one little part that you were trying to explore. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because again, the whole list thing came up. Did you notice? Yeah. I'll keep looking down the list, like she she says that. Yeah. So yeah, the list and the organization thing is very strong for you.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:47

But right now. Oh dear. Oh dear.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:00

Oh are you okay? Yes, I was just wondering why I have this pretend like an Aurora.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:13

Does she want to go there? She doesn't like the auroras.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:22

Angels or Auroras, or perhaps they are the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:27

Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:40

No, we're definitely going to the baby nursery. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:47

Well it does seem to me.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:01

Like she does see them in her mind like a hospital ward. But you know, like the 1980s, 1990s star where they put the bouncy babes in not a castle, what do you call it? Cradle? It's like a castle for one. Very small castle for one. Oh, with the name. Yeah. And they put it up to the display window. Yeah. And then the mama and the dad can bring all their proud visitors past the window to have a goo goo in at the babies. And they point and they say, That's mine, but it can't come out yet because the nurse is in charge. And she said, No, no, no, no. You have too many germs, stay away. So it's a bit like that. To give context to that. Yeah. So I think in particular that was important for me because when I had my first baby, he was born very premature, six weeks premature. Right. So babies bring happiness and babies bring sorrow. So because the baby was in the intensive care. Yeah. And so no germs, you don't come in. Um yeah. Yeah. But it's not really. Uh because an angel is energy, right? So you can't stuff energy into a castle called a cradle, can you? Or even inside a doll.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:25

But that's okay. This is just visualization for the human mind to understand.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:31

Yes. There's lots of babies.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:42

Oh, do you believe?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:57

Oh nickety. Casting religious beliefs aside. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:11

And the big daddy, or the big mummy, or the big being, or the big son, or whatever you want to call it, did decide to give birth. He she or it created a nursery.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:33

Which is when we went back to the big black room again. And the nursery was inside this big black room. And lots of these castles or cradles. I like to use the word castles.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:49

Because no, no, to this yes, no.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:56

And um that's a bit like when these human women have a baby, right? They push out the child. Yep. And so the being that creates the world pushes out some energy and plops it into a nursery. Okay. And uh little by little the energy forms into a shape. And he should they decide to make a beautiful shape.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:36

The most beautiful shape that ever did exist.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:44

That's always a reflection of itself. But also mmm kind of unique. And it sparkled, yeah, and it shone. And it glistened and it reflected. And it contained colours like the aurora.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:06

And it could be manipulated.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:10

And it could uh create wisdom and messages. These were smart babies, very smart babies. Can't have dumb burgers. That's a particular incarnation choice.

unknown 1:34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:29

So the interesting insight that I got when I went, oh dear, oh dear, was because even when the universe or the creator or whoever creates out of nothing, yeah, and the energy comes forth, some goes into the nursery and some doesn't make it. It just explodes and then goes back into darkness and comes back out again. That's why I was like, oh dear dear, they didn't even make it to become angels. Interesting, okay. And then the comment about dumb babies was weird, but yeah, I think it's kind of like an interpretation of if the energy isn't formed correctly, it can't come in to the nursery. Right. If it's not ready or yeah. Sorry? If it's not ready or it's not formed connect correctly, or you know. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:20

That's right. Angels are beautiful and smart, and they were the first babies.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:35

Yep. Mmm, because archangels wisdom, nobody goes there. But angels is a baby nursery for energy. Um, they're very cute, stuff like that cute, yes, and lots of different colours. And I believe the humans do use energy they call words to give them signposts, they call names. Is that right?

SPEAKER_09 1:35:57

Yes, names.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:59

Right, yes. So you could have Angel Aurora, she's a pretty one. I think this is even a different personality now, don't you think?

SPEAKER_08 1:36:10

Yeah, I don't know. There's so many. It's yeah, changed again.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:14

Changed again, yeah. Yeah, yeah, um so many names. But that I think you could make up any name and put it on an angel, really, because there's an angel for everybody, and those humans they do get born with an angel, yeah, called a guardian angel. Yeah, and they're with them always, and they have a very particular name that is supposed to be very special, and so you have to get uh special permission from the big cheese, him or her or their self. Makes it hard with all these side posts you have to put on names these days. Um if the big G says yes, uh, then you can reveal the guardian that's angel's name. Okay, and if the big G says no, you can't sacred special, and I don't know why, but it's for a reason, I guess. And so the guardian angel follows around the human being if they are in human form. Most of the time, the silly human beings they don't see them. It's like having a ghost following them around. Oh, I'm here, but no, I'm not here. And that causes us a lot of oh dear dear moments. Oh dear, she hasn't seen him yet. Oh dear, dear, dear, dear. She's very scared. But can she see that there's this being that is very beautiful, protecting, and she just thinks the boogie monster is going to get her, and because she doesn't believe, it's a bit like monster zinc. And the belief does create. Well, I know that's not the happiest memories of the soul, but let's go on. The beautiful baby angels. How do we get here? Oh, yes, they all have a name, and some of them get born specifically to go with the energy that decides to be a human being. Yep, and they don't incarnate, so to speak, but they uh stamped with an individual identification, yep, which says this angel belongs to this human. So there's that kind of baby in the nursery.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:33

Do do they belong to the human or do they belong to that soul? Both. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:41

But particularly when they're in human form. Okay. But always, whether the human is called Fred or Mary or Jennifer.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:53

Mohammed. Just trying to think of a name that wasn't British. Yep. Uh or American. It's like a soul stamp. Yeah. But it goes with him in each of the big costumes that they put on.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:12

And then um what else do we see here? That baby. What's that baby? That baby angel is Lorna would call them unemployed angels.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:34

That angel just washes washes washes, washes, wants to be a bit wishy-washy for the first experience. She just wants to float around and get a feeling for earth, for example.

unknown 1:39:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:55

She might just try it out and see what it's like to be invisible.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:03

Um, but try to communicate with people. Yeah. And she might get a beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep message. Uh I don't know why I'm using Morse code, but you know what I mean. Um a light language message, yep. Which tells her that human being is going to step out on that road right now, and if you don't get her attention, she's going to be dead, and she's not ready to be dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:35

Or something like that. Yep. And that helps them toughen up a bit, the angels, because they're so soft and floaty and full of love. But they're not um humans. So they can't experience emotion in the way the human can experience it, but they have to learn to feel the emotion that the human is going through so they can be of service. So that they can respond to it. Yes, because otherwise it's like, hmm, shall I have chocolate cake or shall I have banana cake? I don't know. Is banana cake better than chocolate cake? How do I know? It's just a ball of energy.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:23

Mm-hmm.

unknown 1:41:23

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:24

But the human does seem to prefer the carrot cake, but we know there's some kind of energy in that carrot cake that if she eats it, that she has a walnut allergy. Allergy, yeah. That is a very bad ball of energy. So there might be an angel that follows that child from birth to say stay away from the carrot cake.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:51

Right. Which seems ridiculous.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:54

But we don't really see the form of carrot cake. We just see the energy of desire. Because this particular baby, for example, does desire carrot cake.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:16

Not good for that. Well, that's the thing. You can have carrot cake without walnuts, and you can have carrot cake with walnuts. And part of the adventure for that baby is they chose to experience. Oh, it's quite similar to love, isn't it? Desire and hatred at the same time. I love you, but I don't want to. Oh dear. Oh, I love you, but you do bad things for me. And if I'm not careful, uh love you, and I'll have you, and you kill me. That's so ridiculous, but sometimes, you know, it's almost a resting incarnation, really, don't you think? Not really, but you know, in comparison to the other forms of love. But it's a way of learning energy, and the angel has to learn the energy, and the being that is known as a human being has to learn the energy as well. Yep. So sometimes we just do need to explore the energy of cake. She finds that quite amusing because, as far as she remembers, her first message as a human being was not particularly mum or dad, it was cake.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:35

Cake.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:36

Okay. And she has eaten cake ever since. But she's not fond of the cakes with sultanas in them because they scream, you will make me vomit. Okay. And I don't have a tongue, so I don't know what it feels like to have a sultana on your tongue, but apparently it's okay if it's dried, but if it's baked, it's really quite vomity-vomity. Hmm.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:05

Anyway, back to the babies. Sorry? I was gonna say I don't think that's the same for every human. No, I do believe some people like to eat them.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:14

Exactly. We did ha have a big chuckle up here when a firstborn baby in this incarnation, shh, can't say his name, he doesn't like it. Uh they were on a road trip and they stopped into the petrol station, I think you call it, to fill up with the petrol. And they had a break. Yep. And her mum was in it. Her husband was off being a husband doing work. Yeah. So he did not come on the big long drive. And basically they were hungry. So they had a cup of tea, and uh they had a piece of cake, and it was a carrot cake. That's right. Yes, I can see it now. And the carrot cake had bloody sultanas in it. And you know what happened? It was quite funny. The baby only ate the sultanas and the mummy she not the mummy mummy, but the mummy that Katish was. She ate the cake and the baby ate the sultanas.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:21

It was a great solution.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:25

Okay, excellent. Babies are cute.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:31

Ah dear, sorry. I got off track again. That's okay. You're supposed to be doing serious things like planets and oh, angels, right? Yes. Okay, so you can have an angel just for cake. I think that was probably the moral of the story. There's angels for every reason. Yep. And every situation. Beautiful. And uh baby angels. Oh to the cherub ones, too. Oh, yes. Cherub ones are fat. Can I stop there before we get into cherubs? Yeah. So why that's particularly relevant is because um you know, when you get given an angel book or you go to bookshop, it it's books on angels, right? And they there are certain angels that everyone seems to know, including archangels. But the message that I got through really strongly here and I've been giving in my daily life is there is an angel for everything. So for example, um I have a and this is where when I was doing the channeling Archangel Zachyo and stuff like that. Uh and Lorna talks about it too, is there are teacher angels.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:38

And so when I feel stressed about cooking, for example, I call on my teacher angel for cooking, and I can literally understand the transmission and they will go through it step by step with me. Turn the iPhone on, running degrees, do this, do that, you know what I mean? And I can uh since I have been communicating with the teacher angel for cooking, I've produced some amazing in my books dinners. Yeah, but it's following a recipe, following a list, or you know what I mean? It's very uh whereas when I just ignore that those messages and turn off and go, I'm just gonna kill them for a while, I can produce spectacular disasters. You know, my kids were thought they might, you know, develop a photo album of if they had of of Catisha's cooking disasters. So uh because it's funny to them because uh you know I did study at Le Cordon Blook. Um yeah, so um well I think what the message they're trying to say here is that if you're ever stuck or in trouble or you want to learn something, you can communicate with there's an angel for everything, go for it. Yeah, probably even a parking angel of. Yep, do you know what I mean? So yeah, that that's the thing I just wanted to stop and point out is that you can ask your human teachers who are specialists, but you can also in the moment ask your just say, Look, is there a shoe polishing angel or whatever it is? Can you help me right now? Yeah, and then listen, however, you have your intuition or clear voice, clear audience, clear sentience, clear gustians, listen for that response. Yeah, be open for the response, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:26

Yeah, I think that is a good insight to share with everybody, absolutely. Um it's good information for everybody to to be aware of. Okay, you ready?

SPEAKER_05 1:48:37

Mm-hmm. Like babies, but they're not babies, they're just uh fat. Fat because they please the creator, or whoever you want to call them, because their energy is roly-poly like Santa Claus. And it does make the creator chuckle, because the creator looks at them and just thinks of love, and I want to tickle squeezy, squishy, squishy. But they do have a serious job to do those churchs, but that's another day, another lesson. But this, yes, babies, this is a nursery for baby angels, and uh when you have done being a being called a human being, yeah. Well, but you could go to the baby nursery and become a baby angel. If you like. It's it's an adventure as well. Wow. I thought that was an interesting comment.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:41

You don't have to be yeah, and yeah, all I could manage at that stage was wow, because my brain was like, What the really? Yeah, like yeah, very interesting comment.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:58

Only ever an angel. Because this is what people don't really understand, if you don't mind me getting serious for a little minute or two. Yeah, right. That angels are not defined by form, and so they can spread their energy into being an Aurora, which is kind of like a hundred telegram messages going at once, or morph code messages, or a billion light codes going at once, going the world is beautiful, look here, don't look over there.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:38

The world is beautiful, look here, don't look over there.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:41

Um can I just give you the importance of that as well? Yeah, so the reason I'm pointing that out is because we did this session directly after the Florida tornadoes? The big storm that they had. Yeah, yeah. The we call it a cyclone in Australia. They call it hurricane, yeah. Yeah, hurricane and they had tornadoes as well, right? Yeah. And um literally when that are gone and the cleanup was in progress, which still is going to be for a long time. Yeah, world had the most spectacular auroras we've ever seen, and in Australia in particular, we got we don't usually get very spectacular auroras, but it was still even where I live in Queensland, like bright red aurora. And it was like as though uh the world would I I s and we didn't know this at the time, but it I was just drawn to it, and you know, there were even memes on memes on memes on about auroras. Oh, I didn't see the aurora, let me draw you a squiggle of an aurora so I feel like I'm included. And it felt like the world was going, the universe, the creator was going exactly what they said. Look here, look at the beauty of the world, and while you look here and find joy and happiness, I will send you some healing in the Aurora. Yeah, so that's what I got is that you know, yes, there is suffering in the world, but we are trying to help you move. If you can't, no, I don't want to place judgment, but don't always look over there, be aware that that's happening over there, and there is horrible things happening. And if you can't help at that moment in time, and you're not meant to be, then look over here and we will send you the healing that you need to have so that you it's understandable.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:34

It's also a uh uh sort of a thing not to focus on the negative, right? Yeah, to fo to focus on positive, yeah, but not to ignore that the negative exists.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:44

That's right.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:45

But to say look Don't wallow in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:48

Yeah, don't beat yourself up if you can't help.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:50

If you if you could help, you would be there. Yeah, you could or you could do something to to help, you would. But if you can't, look over here and we will send you uh joy, happiness, and then also some spiritual messages to help you.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:09

Sorry, I have a one of those sweet tea things. Um it is so beautiful that people cry. Yeah. So there's that contrast thing again. Sometimes the tears they make you sad, sometimes the teas they make you cry, and if you're very lucky, you get to snort at the same time.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:31

Um but I I'm just gonna s I'm just gonna say here, I think with this being the happiest moments of your soul, like that was the intention for the session, that all of this comedy came about to make us all happy, because it's certainly um full of lots of uh fun moments, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:00

I know, snorts. Everyone gets embarrassed when they snort, right? But it's quite funny as well when you Exactly right. Sorry, her friend her friend is here and she's laughing as well. I don't know if you know her. It's not her, but it is her. And the not her is the little girl that Jamie channels. Okay, do you know Jamie? She's a very beautiful blonde-haired lady on YouTube. And Maitland, that's right. It's not Maitland, but it is Maitland. Do you get what I mean? It's another slice of the monopoly pie that is Maitland's soul. Yep. And she has been very, very busy at the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:47

Because the not Maitland has been hanging out with Katish in her kitchen and in the car, trying to make her giggle because she's way too serious right now. Yes, I agree. And she has so many heavy burdens, and don't let me get started on the emails and things, but mmm, no, that's not happiest moment. But the non the non-maitland who, by the way, you know how the white wolf sent her to find the first boy ghost. Well, even before that, there were some messages that she got when she was learning to use the piece of wood that hangs on a rope. Yes, yes, that one. There's been lots of those things, haven't there? She does throw them at the ball sometimes. Yes, and um, she broke a very good one that way, dear dear. Dear dear, didn't use us though.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:57

Um yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:00

Uh, so yes, anyway, back to that. The first message she ever got from was an angel in the wooden stick thing. Yes, and it said it was from Gabrielle, the angel, or Gabrielle, however you want to pronounce it. Yes, and she was like, An angel? Why would an angel contact me? And then the second message she got was from IKIK. Um, he's the husband from Mars, I think. Gets a bit confusing, and she's like, Oh, why is an alien contacting you?

SPEAKER_04 1:56:37

And then the third one was Hi, it's Maitland, and I knew you when you were a baby, and I'm just going to say bye. And she was like, Who's that?

SPEAKER_05 1:56:59

That was funny because the baby known as the not Maitland, no, sorry, Katish was a baby, and the not Maitland came to visit and went coochie coochie coo, because she likes babies too. And she recently discovered that Maitland like the not Maitland likes to make Katish giggle because in some other place and some other time, somewhere her soul was her mummy too.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:28

There you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:31

So what's that got to do with anything? Oh, saving souls because she met Maitland through the television, because Maitland is channeled by that's her name is Grace. No, no, Grace is the other one. Jamie. And Jamie used to be on the other television show called Channeling Eric. Yep. And Eric was a poor boy who committed suicide, and he's a spirit guide now, and this is those is coming around because um Eric did appear in her messages inside the audio stream when she was doing regression sessions for a client, and there were ghosties in there. Yep, and she could hear the ghosties talking, and then Eric was having a chat to them, and he left his voice signature, Eric, in the podcast, and nobody ever commented on it. But anyway, but it happened, it happened, and Eric and the not Maitland and the wolf that was white and not black and the man from Mars have been helping her in her earliest moments of being a rescue person again.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:01

Mm-hmm. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:03

Can I just open the yep? I thought this was very fascinating because um these, as I just said, as they just said, these were from the very, very, very first times that I started to get messages. And these were things that I considered private and things that I were I was, you know, some of them I've spoken to you about, but uh things that I would consider that I would never tell anybody about just in case it wasn't true because I wasn't trusting my intuition. Yeah, and um uh what I could see myself seeing, so I could see myself seeing the pieces of paper where I did the pendulum uh conversation, so that was interesting to watch myself think looking at the piece of paper, and it's not me Katish watching, it's it's the other version. Uh, and it was kind of just like, see, we know that you don't trust yourself in some of these things, but you've been bang on since the beginning. You know what I mean? Um, yeah, so I I found that very interesting. And yes, it was true. I specifically when Eric came in that session, um, it was at the very first start of me doing past life regression sessions, yeah. And I did especially learn how to move apart the audio so I could capture Eric. And Eric was talking to a whole lot of ghosts at the same time, and um I did put a section in the podcast saying, Listen, here's Eric. Let's slow it down. And I do remember really disappointed at the time that nobody commented, uh, but it's hard on a podcast, you know, it's an audio thing, um, and then nobody ever noticed. And uh because it was very special to me that I had been um watching channeling Eric, which helped me learn a lot of stuff, yeah, but then to have the exact same audio signature because um he does leave audio signatures in his mum's video she does running channeling Eric. And then when it came up and validated that in my sessions that Eric was around, I was like, Oh, see, there's some kind of connection, there's a reason why I was watching that channel, and look, Eric's helping me here. Um, and he was around for a little while, but not very long. Um, but it was kind of like this stamp again, a stamp, a permission slip of validation to say you're on the right path, or you do have these abilities to uh communicate with people and beings, but it's taken four years to accept it, accept it and truly believe it. Yeah, and you know that that wasn't uh something that I pre-organized. You know, this is a surprise to me, you know, when I did that, that they even brought up those examples, yeah. Um, but clearly also validation, and I do know this about myself, external validation provide like I can feel cry a bit now, yeah, provides me with um satisfaction, happiness, feeling of certainty, which is again not everybody else's definition of happiness, but yes, it does seem that um hearing people tell me that I'm on the right path or I'm doing something good testimonials, things like that is important to me because uh it's a sense of reassurance that I know as a human I shouldn't need, but is important to me all the less. It's like another tick off your list. Yep, yeah. See, I'm doing good tick, yep, that sort of thing. Yeah, so it was very kind of them to show me that. Yeah, it requires a great bravery and seriousness and a very large elastic stretching of her brain to uh become a human radio antenna. Uh she enjoys it because that's all it likes to rescue people but it's like eating too much ice cream it can make you sick. Yes, so sometimes we have to stop her, otherwise she would rescue anything, I think.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:30

Yep. She does worry us. Uh that's it.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:38

And that was important for me because that was important for me because they had Archangel Zach Hale had specifically asked me to stop writing my ghost book for a while. And you know, when I channeled that transmission, it made me sob. Yeah. Uh, but basically that what they were saying was, and I remember at the time, they said, How many people do you want to speak to? Because we could sit here for the rest of your life. There's that many people who like to talk to you and tell you their story. Um, but we have to draw a line, and you've got other things that you need to do, and so we're gonna make you stop completely because uh uh you'll overload basically.

SPEAKER_08 2:04:19

Yeah, yeah, which is something I think um you've struggled with. Uh uh maybe it has to do with your way that you like to have things organized and have your lists and everything. And until you've completely completed that, you just keep pushing yourself and pushing yourself, and uh I have known you to push way too far with with things already in the past.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:45

So yeah, so like with the ghost book, for example, I spoke to the ghosts when they were ghosts. I spoke to the ghosts via Megan when they crossed over to get their lessons, then some of them came back again to give a different perspective. Then I researched the human beings, and then their higher selves came in to give a message, and then a different incarnation or a friend came in. So for some ghosts, there were seven communications for one incarnation, and then they showed me my karmic connection to them, and then there was a message for that, and then that's why Archangel said I was going, stop, this is getting ridiculous. Do you know what I mean? Like, um, basically, you're going around in circles and you will never get this book finished, so we need you to stop. Yeah, come back later. Like it was kind of like a really you need to put in some really big boundaries and be very specific about this book because otherwise it'll be like war and peace. Uh, it would be too big.

SPEAKER_08 2:05:45

Yep. Okay. That was hard. That was hard.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:49

That was really hard.

SPEAKER_08 2:05:51

Yeah, I know that was difficult for you. Um, yeah, I know that um upset you a lot uh when you got the message to stop that. But I guess all ultimately it will bring me greater happiness because it will be a very a much tighter piece of work that will be much more listy, like much more direct in its communication form rather than I I think in the long run, like uh when we um pay attention to these messages and uh everything, um what we then produce always comes out at a at a better standard or better quality, however you wording you want to use. Yeah. And I think that's what will become of of of your book when um the time is right. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:46

Okay. So I got lost. That's okay. That's okay, no problem.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:52

Um so with what you've shown us so far, we've seen how uh her soul likes to rescue beings, people, whatever word you like to use, and how she has this love of all things, baby.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:17

Right?

SPEAKER_05 2:07:21

Oh, yeah, so happy moments, so her happy moments, yes, and she does like big ships.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:30

She likes big ships, okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:32

Oh, except for the one that went down. Well, the two that went down, that was bad. But she likes the big ships in space. Okay, even though her human is very afraid of them.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:50

Why do you think a human is afraid of them?

SPEAKER_05 2:07:53

Because on earth you build a house and it gets stuck into Mother Gaia, right? Mm-hmm. And these are like houses that float. And if your house is floating on Earth, it means there's been a big flood, unless you're a Noah. And then you've built a house that is a ship and a boat, and it does float. But she's not that, and she's worried about floating. So she she's not even a very good swimmer. She can swim, but she doesn't like it unless she's floating on her back. She hates putting her nose down in the water because you can look up at the sun. Why would you put your nose down? And but like she doesn't want a house that floats. That's why she lives on the top of a hill. Okay. And there's something there that needs to be pick pick pickety out of the aura that has to do with floating ships.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:52

Yeah, because like when you have a house, like you said, you put it down into Mother Earth, right? Mother Gaia. So a floating ship, a floating home, is there in Father Sky.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:14

Yes, but she doesn't like the word father sky, we don't know why either.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:18

Okay. Okay, there's something there. Yes, but mm. What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 2:09:29

Yes, I don't think it's from right now, but maybe there is a father that was mean or something. Ships in the sky don't make you seasick. That is what she doesn't understand. Whereas ships on earth make her or did used to make her sky sick, uh not skysick, you see, seasick. She used to go vomit, vomit everywhere. And even the planes in the air didn't make her vomit. She even famously vomited out the side of a hot air balloon once. That was funny. Okay. It was the whoosh of the hot air balloon going higher than the whoosh of the flames, and she went, and vomited out the sun. And this little boy went, Mommy, look at hotel, and I watched her mom's like my oh dear. There was another time she was in an airplane over the Milford Sound. Do you know what that is?

SPEAKER_01 2:10:45

I do.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:46

In New Zealand, and her uncle had childhood in an aeroplane. Oh, it was very posh. And she wasn't used to posh. And she was all dressed up for the day. And she got in the plane and went bump, bump, and she threw the hole over herself. She didn't have a change of clothes. And we do see it as most amusing, but she'd not dear, oh dear. There was nowhere to buy a shirt in the Milford Seven, was there? Of course not.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:13

So it's so embarrassing for her mother.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:20

Something. But oh dear, her daddy, he was worried, but it's anyway. So the air bumper de bumps and the ground and the mmm, even the ground bumper de bumps. Car driving used to make her cease, uh not seasick, they call it car sick. So you get sick all the time. Even yes, it's quite strange. But we do know that she doesn't throw up in the ships in the sky. Okay. Would you imagine that? That would be weird. So she does like the big ships in the sky because there's no bumpity bumpy. It's very smooth sailing.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:08

Mm. Well, I don't think there's a thing called gravity, right?

SPEAKER_05 2:12:20

And I think she did get a big big metal on a ship once up in that sounds good. A big black metal stamped herself as somebody important on a big ship.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:48

Is that one of her happy memories? One of her happiest memories.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:42

Like is Star Wars a Senate? It's not a Senate.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:49

Like a Federation. Like a Federation. You know when Senator Mama? Yeah. The young lady did fall in love with the young boy who became the bad one. Yep. And she was a senator or something. And you had these floating benches, and you mate went in and stated your case.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:19

Or blah blah blah. There's one of those up there. But it's not that, it's a federation. She does belong to it. But the human does not like to the human is going. That's a scary concept.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:46

Because it's not scary.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:48

Humans must be humble. So she tries to shake it down now. But this was a big bad moment, just a swimming moment. Where she got a big bat that made her the big boy of the Federation.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:12

That's exciting. Well, we were all going, hooray.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:27

She won't even allow herself to use the gut word, and she won't allow to use the gut single.

SPEAKER_06 2:16:36

That is a galactic generation.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:47

That is all she's allowing me to see.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:51

Because she needs to become comfortable in her own way, in her own time. That's a component of her soul. Because it will bring her great joy, but she has refused to conquer still because duality does exist in dimensions that are not on earth. And she's only just conquering the baddies on earth that's involved in the spirit releasement therapy stuff she learned to do.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:32

And so her brain, her mind, did already say the galactic baddies is too much for my brain. And so we have said, well, just rest that corner of your brain until you're ready. And who knows if she'll be ready, but she has to do it in her own time, and then she will find great memories of joy. And we do not push anybody to share the happiest memories of their soul if they are not ready to share it because they have not conquered the fear. Because you have to still address the fear to get to the happiness sometimes. And when she does, she'll be bursting with pride. But I don't know, she might go need a cake to celebrate. With no Sultanas, right? Yeah, and not a cherry on top either.

unknown 2:18:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:27

She doesn't like the moisture milk cherries. Yes. Okay, yeah. She doesn't like those. But might have pink icing. Okay. She does like girly things, even she doesn't look like a girly girl. She doesn't like the girly girl things. T-caps, sauces, teapots. And yes, so there's a big moment that could be shared, but um it doesn't seem right now.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:53

And I do think possibly that we are about done. I was gonna say, are you are you done? Uh eyes want to open and she doesn't want to go there. She doesn't want to have that big proud moment yet.

SPEAKER_08 2:19:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:10

And she's done all the babies and the angels, and she did tell you a lot about the planet, and she didn't know she used all that.

SPEAKER_08 2:19:21

Okay, I was about to say thank you. She's awake, but I will say that anyway. So yeah. So there you go. Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:40

Very interesting. And just as an aside note, Cindy, so we've been going for two and a half hours, so there's no way we're gonna get through the next one today. Um so uh yeah, I uh that galactic moment is not what we saw in the next session anyway. No, so I guess it was very, very, very interesting and um insightful.

SPEAKER_08 2:20:11

Yeah, I think it was very insightful. Um, absolutely. But I think all the sessions that I've seen so far of everybody's, um, myself included, have been very insightful in that way. Not what I would have anticipated this season to uh bring up or bring about.

SPEAKER_01 2:20:33

All right, that's interesting. Yeah, why would you say that?

SPEAKER_08 2:20:36

I don't know, because maybe that's because of my human interpretation of what happiness is. I just expected it to be all light and fluffy, basically, I guess, um, from the outset. Um, but it's not. There's so much more depth to what actually makes the soul happy that it's not necessarily what we perceive in human terms of what we would consider things that make you happy. You know, human terms, we think about happiness, we think about laughter, we think about joy. Um, I don't know, most of us probably think about mucking around, um, you know, the foods and things we enjoy to eat that, you know, bring us happiness, you know, like ice cream and all all the, you know, or cake, for example, although that was brought up. Um, but these sessions to me have uh shown much more depth than that. Um there it's it's much deeper. I don't even know how to put it into words properly. Um it's it's been really for me, I've found it fascinating, really eye-opening and helpful. Um insights into almost like what makes the soul tick. Yeah, yeah, a better use of uh better, any better wording.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:09

Um, and I I honestly had no idea other than the intention because there was a very specific directive to do these sessions and a very specific directive to have it as the focus, yeah, and to offer it as private sessions or public podcast sessions. Yeah um and I was assured that uh these were not to be classified as therapy sessions because there would be no therapy from a say like removal of limiting beliefs or any of that, healing emotions or anything, spirit releasement therapy. It was purely as a demonstration session for human inquiry and understanding and self-analysis, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 2:22:55

And and that's exactly what I think has come out uh from them um is exactly that. So I think you've definitely reached that um intention perfectly um with the sessions because it yeah, for my own personal sessions, it was definitely insights, self-analysis, um there was all of that um helped me understand uh some of the things that I desire to do so much and and it's not a directive either, is it?

SPEAKER_05 2:23:29

It's not saying that you must go and do this now, they're just saying, well, here's some examples of how you and we find things funny or amusing or serious or interesting or fascinating, and now you are responsible for doing without what you want. Exactly. We're not gonna tell you. Exactly that. Yeah, go away and have a think about it and see how you want to apply it or do it, you know.

SPEAKER_08 2:23:52

Yeah. And and even more to that, like you don't even need to um like you don't even need to go with it, like you know, it just gives you insight into why you think and feel about things, or that's what it's done for me. Yeah, in addition to anything else as well. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:15

Yeah. Well, thank you, Cindy, and we will have to close this episode off here because we've been talking for two and a half hours. And I think we're at the human human limit of comprehension. So we will do the second episode and the second session at a later time. So thank you again, Cindy, for joining me.

SPEAKER_08 2:24:34

Thank you for having me, and thank you for allowing me to help facilitate uh your sessions. It's been a joy. Thank you. Okay, bye for now.