Happiest Moments of My Soul - Session 2: Katie.

This week is Katie's second Happiest Moments of My Soul Session with Katische Haberfield. 

• Experience heartfelt happy moments from Katie's soul's journey, from the simplicity and serenity of a young boy on an Irish beach to the tender joy of wisdom from family members in the light. 
• Embrace insights from spiritual guides (Leo and Vandra) and messages from the spirit world, and discover the importance of creativity, self-care, and finding joy in life's challenges. 
• This episode offers deep spiritual revelations and emotional connections that highlight the soul's infinite journey and the beauty of living joyfully.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Infinite Life with Getish Hupperfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me, and please don't forget to like and subscribe. And most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste.

SPEAKER_06 0:39

Hi Katie. Well, this should be a fun session, session two.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Let's see who we get to meet today for and what kind of happy moments are in this one.

SPEAKER_06 0:51

And then the next one we will review the two together. And that's really fun. That's probably my favourite bit of all is the reviewing them together.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

It's just it brings me a lot of joy anyway.

SPEAKER_07 1:04

Oh it's it's funny, it's funny how the first one ended up publishing accidentally.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

And then uh I go and then I'm like, oh, I didn't even press that.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

So something needed to go out there for that moment.

SPEAKER_06 2:02

I'm asking the angels now to move and carry you through time and space, dimensions and frequencies, fill the moment and place where there was something important for you to learn and understand about the happiest moments of your soul. Something that will help you in the very best way. The angels are carrying you, drifting and floating, drifting and floating as you go down deeper into relaxation. You're feeling deeply protected and safe, comfortable and relaxed. The angels know the way. To understand the happiest moments of your soul. They have found the moment, the first moment. The bubble of light is on the surface now. I'm going to count from three to one. And when I reach one, you'll be on the other side of the bubble, our destination for today. Three. Moving through the light. Two moving through the light. One beyond the other side of it now. You're in another time, another place. Look around you. Engage all of your senses. Look with your mind's eye. Feel and know through your energy body. Listen with your spiritual ears. What is the first sensation that you have? What's the first thing that you notice? I'm on a beach. You're on a beach? Surrounded by ocean.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_06 4:17

And how do you feel right now? Relaxed. And what do you know or feel about yourself? I come here to feel better. Okay. And do you know what kind of form you have?

SPEAKER_05 4:56

I'm a boy. You're a boy, okay.

SPEAKER_06 5:05

And what do you know about yourself? What do you look like? Are you tall or short? For your age? I'm short comparison. For other boys my age. You're short?

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 5:28

And can you tell me anything about your appearance? Like what strikes you about you that makes you unique? Do you have a certain color hair or dark hair and green eyes?

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Mm-hmm. Slim. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

I've got long fingers.

SPEAKER_06 6:16

And is anybody else with you at the beach? No, it's just me. Just you. And are you sitting on the sand or do you have your feet in the water? How? I'm just stood on the sand right near the edge of the water. Lovely. I'm just waiting waiting for the water to come in over my feet. I like it here, it's peaceful. I've got a big family. Lots of brothers and sisters, or I have I have, so it's it's nice to come here and be alone sometimes. Are you one of the eldest in your family? I'm the third one down. Mm-hmm. And how old does that make you? I'm 13. Thirteen.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And does it take you very long to get here from the beach?

SPEAKER_05 7:23

Not long. A few minutes.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Oh, lovely. Okay, that's easy then. Do you come very often?

SPEAKER_06 7:31

Whenever I can sneak away. Mm-hmm. And does the water feel hot or cold today? Like warm or is it cool? Is it it's quite cool. It's it's breezy today. The sun's not very warm.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Okay. And is that just because it's a change in weather or is it like becoming winter or it's becoming winter, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:00

But I still like to come here.

SPEAKER_04 8:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:05

Even though my parents say don't don't, it's too cold, don't go. I I like it. And what else do you do at the beach that makes you feel good? I just collect shells and listen to them. And I look out for any creatures in the sea. And I just listen to the breeze on the trees. So there's trees behind me. I just enjoy this bliss. It's a bit mad, I have. Is it? Why is that darling? Because there's so many of us. We're a bit squashed. And some of the younger children are uh fight a lot. Right. Little kids tend to do that, don't they? And I just want to get away sometimes. But this is my happy place.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Lovely.

SPEAKER_06 9:16

I'm sorry I didn't catch your name. Joseph. Joseph. Do you live in which area, Joseph, do you live? Are you in the city or the country? I'm in Ireland. You're in Ireland? Lovely. Should be nice and green then, shouldn't it? It is green here too, but we live near the ocean. And what do you love about your own? We've got lots of we've got lots of trees and grass and like near where we nearer our house. Mm-hmm. If I come out here I can get to the ocean. And do you ever interact with the animals by the ocean? Sometimes um with my father we go fishing.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 10:32

So so then I get to to see more of the sea creatures. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

What are your favorite ones?

SPEAKER_02 10:46

The crabs.

SPEAKER_06 10:49

Why do you like them? I just think they're funny. And I love just watching the bigger fish. But I don't like it that we have to catch them and kill them. But we eat them. So we have to for food. Do you ever go swimming in the water? Sometimes. I'm not a very good swimmer. But I like watching the I like looking. I I don't like going under the water. But I like looking into the water at the fish.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Do the other kids get to go fishing with your dad or is that just a special thing for you and dad?

SPEAKER_06 11:54

No, we take it in turns. Mm-hmm. Because we can't fit us all on at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 12:11

There's a lot of us.

SPEAKER_06 12:16

Does that what does that uh make you happy to have lots of little brothers and sisters? Sometimes. But sometimes it's annoying. But I do love them all. And we get to play some good games sometimes. But sometimes we older ones have to be careful not to hurt the younger ones.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

A bit rough.

SPEAKER_06 12:49

A little bit. Because you're stronger than one on them, right? Yeah. And they think they're strong, but they they're not.

SPEAKER_07 13:00

So sometimes they'll run at me and try and pin me down, and then and then when I push them off, I end up hurting them.

SPEAKER_06 13:09

And then I get in trouble. Right, yep. Siblings, eh? Yeah. And what are you doing right now? I'm just enjoying the quiet. Hmm. But I should go home soon or they'll notice I've gone. I don't really want to go home though, I like it here.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

Hmm. Seems very relaxing for you.

SPEAKER_06 14:04

Maybe I could just stay here a little bit longer. Okay. Fill up my bucket with sand. I just saw something really big in the water. Did you? I just saw something dive out and dive back in again.

SPEAKER_05 14:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Don't know what that was. Have you ever seen something like that before? Not that big. Mm-hmm. I wonder if it's got a special message for you or something. Maybe. You watch and see if it jumps again. Maybe it's a jumping fish or I don't know, some kind of a special shark.

SPEAKER_05 15:37

It looks nice, it looks almost animated.

SPEAKER_06 15:55

Just telling me to play. I think he's just telling me to play. Okay. What do you want to play?

SPEAKER_00 16:13

What are you gonna want to play?

SPEAKER_06 16:15

Play what? I don't know, there's not a lot to do apart from playing with the sand and those shells.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Can you make a sand castle or a running game?

SPEAKER_06 16:28

Yeah, I could make a sand castle, couldn't I? Oh, it's telling me it's playing with its family. Oh, it's playing with its family. Ah. So I should play with my family. Ah, there you go. Well, playing with your family can be relaxing too, you know. Yeah, sometimes it's fun. Maybe I should go home and play with them.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:10

They're all playing really happily in the water. Yeah, maybe I've been here long enough.

SPEAKER_05 17:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:31

I'm just gonna run home now.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

All right. Well, thanks for showing us your beach. That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:38

Are you coming with me or are you staying here?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

I can come with you if you like. If you'd like to show me something else, happy. Otherwise, we can say goodbye now. It's up to you.

SPEAKER_06 17:50

I can show you a clean happy games at home. Okay. Do you want to race me? Sure. Ready? Come on then. Are you marks?

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Yes, it go. Yay.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Are you still there?

SPEAKER_05 18:17

Yeah, I'm still here. Look, there's our house. It's lovely, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 18:25

It's not very big, but we all fit in.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:36

Shall I show you to my brothers and sisters? Okay, that'd be lovely. Okay. You might want to brace yourself. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Oh, it's a bit quiet in here.

SPEAKER_06 19:07

Well, they're all playing out at the back. Okay. I think I'm gonna go and join in.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 19:27

Yeah, they're playing with a bat and a ball. Ah. Uh cricket. Mm-hmm. Well, it's not really proper cricket, but we just use a bat on a bowl. And who's batting now? On who's bowling? Uh Michael's batting. And Teddy is bowling. But there's loads of us. There's thirteen of us.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

That's a lot of kids.

SPEAKER_06 20:14

Yeah. I think our mum gets a bit tired. She's playing too. Is she? Oh, that's lovely. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I like it today. Everyone seems happier today.

SPEAKER_05 20:37

That's nice.

SPEAKER_06 21:14

I might just have to go and help. Okay. Tommy can't hold the bat properly. He's too small. Too small. The bat's nearly as big as him. Well, does that make him about two or three? Two? Three. Three.

SPEAKER_07 22:02

It's getting darker now.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Alright, sounds like you might all have to go inside and have dinner so I think it's gonna rain as well. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 22:12

So I think we're gonna go in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Alright, well, we might say goodbye then. It's been lovely seeing you.

SPEAKER_06 22:18

Bye. Bye. Alright, so the angels are going to lift you and carry you away from the scene. Drifting and floating. Drifting and floating. And then they're going to take you to the another happy moment that your soul wishes you to see today. Can you see anything or feel anything? I'm rocking a baby. I'm rocking a baby. Singing lullabies of the baby. Mm-hmm. It's my baby. Is it your baby? And is the baby a newborn baby? Yeah, I'm so happy. It's hard work, but I'm so happy. Is it a baby girl or a baby boy? It's a girl. It's a girl. What's her name? Lily. Lovely. And are you Lily's mummy or daddy? I'm Lily's mummy. That's lovely. And what's your name? Georgina. Nice to meet you, Georgina. Nice to meet you too. Is this your first baby? Yes. She's so beautiful. I've wanted this baby for a long, long time. Have you?

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's lovely that she's finally come.

SPEAKER_06 26:19

She's adorable. We've been through a lot a lot of pain to get here.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

So this is just so nice.

SPEAKER_06 26:40

I love just spending my whole day looking after her.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

And she's quite happy, baby. That's nice, it makes it easy, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_06 26:59

Yeah, I heard lots of stories and people trying to put me off, but no, she's beautiful. She just sleeps and gurgles and giggles. She's adorable. But sometimes I don't want to share her with anybody.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

And is it just the two of you for most of the day at home?

SPEAKER_07 27:38

Yeah, her dad's at work now. But that's okay because I get lots of time with her by myself. I like it.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

And do you live in the city or in the country? Um, I'm in the country. It's nice and peaceful then, isn't it? Yeah, it's beautiful. I love the countryside. There's lots of animals around here. Mm-hmm. And lots of places that for my children to all like run free. So even though she's tiny, I can see what it will be like when she's racing around in the gardens and in the fields a bit behind us.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

So sorry, did you say this is your first baby?

SPEAKER_06 28:52

Yeah, yeah. It's not the first time I've had a baby. This is my first baby that's stayed.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

Oh, okay, I see.

SPEAKER_06 29:05

But this makes it all okay.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:09

All of that pain has just drifted away. Yeah. I don't think I've ever been this happy.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

No.

SPEAKER_06 29:31

I don't think everybody else feels like this when they have a baby. I hear there's lots of little people just complaining. But I'm really grateful.

SPEAKER_05 29:56

I feel really gifted.

SPEAKER_06 30:03

And I love dressing her up in pretty, beautiful baby clothes. Pretty things.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Pretty things, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:13

Think she might be a girly girl by the time I'm finished. What is she wearing now? She's got a beautiful pretty dress with flowers. Mm-hmm. And uh a tide ribbon on the head. Does she have any little hair yet? Only little tiny bits, but I tied it like a headband around the head. Okay, yes, yeah. With a bow on the top. Pretty. And it matches the dress. Lovely.

SPEAKER_05 30:53

She's so gorgeous.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

I think I might need to take her to bed now.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 31:06

All right. Well, I won't disturb you because we don't want to wake her. No, she's very sleepy now. Okay. Well, let you put her to bed and then we'll say goodbye. Thank you. Bye. Okay, and so the angels will transport you to another moment in time now. There's something important for you to see about happiness and what it means to your soul.

SPEAKER_05 34:23

I'm an old man.

SPEAKER_06 34:24

You're an old man? Okay. What do you know about yourself? I'm a great grandfather. You're a great grandfather, wow. I've got a huge family. Lots of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. Well, you must be very proud. I'm so proud of them all. I mean, there's a couple of them that you know bring have brought some trouble to my door, but overall it's been good. I'm content with my life. It's quite peaceful now as well.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Could you have ever imagined so many grandchildren and great-grandchildren?

SPEAKER_06 35:25

No, never. There's so many, we can't all get together at once. But uh we try. Does some of them live near you? Some of them live near me, some of them live in other countries. Oh, okay. Like what sort of countries? I say we like to try and get them all together. Some of them live on the other side of the world. I've got one that lives in South Africa and one that lives in America. Most of them are here. And where's here? England. England, of course, yes, sorry. So sometimes I get to travel to see them. But most of the time we all try to get together here. And do you live in a village or a city?

SPEAKER_07 36:32

I live in a village.

SPEAKER_06 36:35

Somewhere nice. Just kind of got that sense of relaxation. Not busily. No, yeah, it's a village, it's nice. It's a village. We're in the south of England.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Okay. Kent. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 37:10

There's lots of space here, and sometimes it can get a bit lonely because we're a bit rural. And now I'm older. I'm older, so I don't drive anymore. Right, okay. And are you still, is your wife still with you? No, she's she's passed away now. Okay. But I'm okay. I've got a big family who take care of me. And I do have lots of friends in the village. We we get together and do things.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

What sort of things? What makes you happy?

SPEAKER_06 38:01

We get together and play play chess with some friends. Um card games and we go for dinners. It's actually quite nice. My children uh laugh that I've got a better social life than they have.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

I'm sure they're busy with their jobs and their families.

SPEAKER_06 38:31

So I'm quite enjoying my old age.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Did you have a busy working career?

SPEAKER_06 38:37

I did. I worked as I worked past retirement. So say that again, sorry. I worked way past retirement age, so it's nice now to just enjoy the rest of my life having fun. Lovely. There's a lot of a lot of us in this village who are elderly and alone now.

SPEAKER_07 39:30

And we're a bit wiser and seek moments of joy instead of looking at all of the bad things in life.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

It can be easy to get distracted and I look at the bad things, can't it?

SPEAKER_06 39:57

Yeah, when we were younger, I remember how stressful life was, but it's it doesn't feel like that anymore, even though you know some things are really different. You have to make your own fun, make your own happiness.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

That's good advice, isn't it, for anyone, I think.

SPEAKER_06 40:15

I try and remind my children of that. Some of them listen. Some of them can't hear me yet. You know what it's like.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 40:34

But people joke about that I have lots of lady friends in the village. Oh, do you? Wait, it just happens that I'm one of the few men that's left, so most of the elderly people here are ladies. There's not many men here to do things with. I think it's just because their husbands have gone and they can't fuss over them anymore, so they all try and fuss over me. I think invite it to a lot of their houses for dinner, too. Well, that must be nice. Something to eat dinner with. Nice not to have to cook. I know how that feels. I'm not doing bad at 87. 87, goodness me. Well done.

SPEAKER_07 41:50

I know, but do you know it's flown by?

SPEAKER_06 41:55

Doesn't seem that long ago that I was 27. I don't think the children realise how quickly it goes. I don't think anybody does. And so they don't stop to enjoy it because they don't I don't know. But uh I don't know how long I've got left, so I'm gonna enjoy every minute of it. Sounds like a good idea.

SPEAKER_07 42:33

Oh, I've got to go out soon.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

All right, well you uh are you off to do something? I'm interested. Are you off for dinner? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 42:42

Well I better not make it late for that then.

SPEAKER_07 42:44

I get I get a pudding at this one too, so it'll be late.

SPEAKER_06 42:52

That's me. That's that'll be me.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

Well, it was so nice talking to you. Enjoy your dinner and your pudding.

SPEAKER_07 43:03

I will. Bye.

SPEAKER_05 43:05

Bye.

SPEAKER_06 43:59

Let's see. What else you can notice?

SPEAKER_01 44:01

Is there anyone else that wishes to communicate with you today? Either your higher self or a spirit guide?

SPEAKER_06 44:09

Or is there another lifetime to go to? Maybe there's somebody special to talk to. I'm not sure what your soul wants to direct us to next.

SPEAKER_05 44:47

Vendra. Vandra. Vandra. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 44:59

And what does Vandra have to say? Vandra. Okay. Have we met Vandra before?

SPEAKER_02 45:16

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 45:37

And does Vandra want to talk directly to you or does Vandra want to talk to me? Do you want to relay the messages? Sorry? Okay, all right. Well do you want to allow him to talk? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 46:06

Hello there.

SPEAKER_06 46:10

Hello, Katish. How are you doing? I'm very good, thank you. We've been witnessing these sessions you've been doing. And we feel they're very educational and entertaining, and lots of humans will get great value out of hearing these sessions. When they're seeking your welcome, when they're seeking uh happiness, what they don't realize is that every day they're missing out on their own happiness, these moments of joy in the simplest things, or they're off chasing all of the things they think they should be chasing, but really it's right here and now in every moment there's something to be in awe of because it's all miraculous, you're all magical, and we feel that this series that you're bringing through could help a lot of people. So we're asking you to make sure that more people see it and hear it and listen to it. Sorry, I don't know why I'm crying, but anyway. And do you have any suggestions? A deep sense of trust in the work that you're doing, that everything that you create is of the highest value to the humans that you're working with and guiding, and that every single soul listens to what you put out there. It there's a ripple effect on their life, and you don't understand yet exactly the power that you hold to really really impact people and raise consciousness and transform people's lives for the better because you're often questioning yourself. We know we're watching you, and we want you to trust yourself deeply and to know that everything that all the guidance that you're following is there for a reason, and we know it's hard for you sometimes, but we also know that you do on a soul level understand why you're the one.

SPEAKER_04 49:15

Thank you. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:20

And we'll give you back to Katie.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 49:25

You're welcome. Can you sense anyone else there, Katie? Somebody with a message for you, maybe. Oh Leo, hello Leo. Leo is one of my spirit guides that's been around for a long time. Yes. I remember Leo in one of the very first sessions, I think.

SPEAKER_07 50:10

I remember Leo from way back when I first stepped into psychic development, and my first spirit guide came through.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

It was Leo. Okay, well, that's a long time ago then.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

What does Leo have to tell you today?

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Leo.

SPEAKER_05 50:40

Pardon me. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 50:45

Leo is telling me I've got things I need to release. Okay. And allow. And that it's okay when I'm ill to rest for long periods of time.

SPEAKER_07 51:03

I've still got that pattern of feeling like I still must be doing something.

SPEAKER_06 51:09

And that that they're that I'm being given this for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 51:24

And Leo's sort of shifting me out of the way, saying, I'll speak.

SPEAKER_05 51:32

Okay, all right. Why would I let Leo speak then?

SPEAKER_06 51:42

Hello, Katish.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

Hello Leo, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_06 51:48

I'm very well, thank you. We just want to thank you for supporting Katie. Katie doesn't say everything because she's questioning things that we're trying to tell her, so I thought I'll step in and have this conversation with you myself. Okay, very good. So that Katie can hear it back later. Okay, good idea.

SPEAKER_07 52:13

So we've been working with Katie for many years in her time, in her uh perception of time.

SPEAKER_06 52:29

And to her, that feels like a long time, but time does not exist in this reality, so it's not a long time at all. And we want Katie to know that every single step that she's taken, especially when she follows her intuition, is the right next step, and there's nothing to question. It's all perfect, it's all been set out divinely for her path. And she, like you, has a mission to impact lots of people, but sometimes she questions this too, and she places lots of other people out there for visibility, but can go into hiding herself. So we want Katie to use her gifts more, and that's why we're nudging her in the direction of her true gifts. But we want her to trust that it's not too late to use those natural talents that she was born with, and that there is more impact in her using those gifts than there is in her trying to say coach people, which is what she thinks she should do. Ah, okay, but she has a bigger purpose and a wider stage where she can create things that many people can feel. Okay. So there's a there are things that Katie could be doing way beyond speaking and way beyond coaching people, okay. Just through just through allowing a natural gifts, and we know you know what we mean by this because you use some of these tools as well. Sounds, music, vibration, and frequency. It's not about questioning all of the things, it's about allowing the creativity to flow and the ripples to occur from the creative pursuits that feel natural and joyful, and this is where this fits in with the your joyful moments. Podcasts, lots of people have things that they love to do that they avoid because they think that it's not important, but it's the most important thing is to be creative from a space of joy, the things that you love, the things that you would never care about being paid for. So we want Katie to listen to this after you've finished, and other people to listen to this because there are many of you doing the same thing. That's all from me today. Okay, thank you, Leo. Welcome.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

Goodbye, goodbye.

SPEAKER_06 57:00

Do you want her to speak? Well, I sensed that she was there, so I don't know whether she wants to just speak to you or to me. I just could feel her. So can I now? I'm overwhelmed with tears. She just took me right back to a song I used to sing in the show The Little Match Girl, because it was about a little girl who loved her dead nan. And she sang a song to her nan, and that song just popped right in. Oh, she says the reason I held on to that house so long was because of my connection to her, because she died the week before I moved into that house, and her funeral was the day after I moved into that house. So a lot of what I was holding on to was about her, and I didn't need to hold on because I can call her in at any time. Okay, and she's saying that chapter's closed now, it's okay. She's still here, she's still she can still see me and I can still access her. She knows that I asked Ellen a question last week about her. I said, Do you think me not being like me tapping into both of my nuns? So when I did it as a child, I used to tap into my nan for confidence on stage. I used to connect with the spirit of my nan, and that me since she died, like always holding on to her being around, has kept her from crossing over to the other side. And uh he said that that could be bad, but then I I had something come in to say, well, no, because she has crossed over, but she's accessible, so it doesn't work like that, and she just I think she's here to tell me that it's okay, it isn't bad. I thought I'd done something wrong, like holding on to it. And she said it's not that's not wrong, that she's not stuck here, she just she can be everywhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:16

Because I wondered if my way of dealing with death, which is to like tell myself that they don't really go. I just wondered whether there was something wrong with that. He's saying no, you've that's the truth, that's the truth, but most people can't see the truth. So it makes you look like you're doing something wrong. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

I think she just also has a stronger role to play with your soul as well, because that you know, some people have nans that die and then they don't think about them too much, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:20

So I think it's I've had this twice.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:23

So I had this as a child with my dad's mum, who was around a lot, and it was like well after my mum's mum passed away, it was like my dad's mum disappeared. Yeah, but then sometimes I've had all four grandparents, I know all four of them are around me, but the presence of my dad's mum was much bigger when I was younger. Well, because she was the only grandparent in spirit, probably out of me.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:03

I get the sense that they're actually all here right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:09

Yeah, so do I, and so is my dad.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

I thought he'd make an appearance.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:22

He's just said, I you know I know this work's important. The work that you do in rooms like this is probably the most important thing that that you're doing altogether. And does he want to be the spokesperson for all the other grandparents? He said we're here to support you and guide you so that you never feel alone and that you have extra strength to do what you've come here to do. Because it can be difficult And you're the one that had to break the chain release the sins of the fathers we did more than you can imagine But none of it's really bad. It's okay for you to take care of yourself as a priority now. There is no work to do. You can focus on being happy because there's so many things in your life to be happy about. You don't need to worry about the past anymore. Practice what you preach because the present moment is all you need to care about. We love you. We'll always love you and we'll be here for you when you cross over with us. Like we've always been here. What about your I think there's a special message from your guardian angel or something like that. Katie, we f we know you feel like this is really heavy. But it's all for you. It's all for your benefit. And now we want you to rest without guilt. Time is an illusion. And it will all work out in divine timing anyway. And all of the people that you think are relying on, you know that.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:07

The rest know that that's okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:18

I will send you little messages to move if you need to. We'll make them really obvious. To avoid confusion. So you can rest now in the knowing that we're taking care of this. And focus on joy.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:51

Focus on the energy of yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

Just appreciate the little things.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

To enjoy.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:26

We're surrounding you in this white light now. I want you to rest like a baby. Rest and recover. And then allow creativity to flow through naturally. Well, it seems like that that's all of the messages for today, do you think?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:23

I think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:26

Okay. All right, so starting to feel your body against the back of the chair.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:06

When you're ready, we can open your eyes.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

Okay?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:23

Bright lights, bright lights.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:27

There we go.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

How do you feel?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:32

Oh tired.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:36

Tired. Yeah, they said they want you to rest like a baby. So I'm going to leave it there and say thank you very much.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:44

That was very beautiful, very moving. And they're going to send you some very explicit messages, but rest is the most important thing for you right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:55

Thank you. Okay. Take care. Bye. Bye.