Panel: Exploring Elemental Powers and Light Language

In this episode, we reunite with three Starseeds from our previous season, Isaya, Vivian, and Cindy, to delve deeper into their regression experiences and what they have learned since then. 

• We explore the common theme that emerged in their regressions: elemental powers and light language. 
• They share their unique experiences and insights on these topics, including how they integrate them into their daily lives. 
• Join us as we learn more about the fascinating world of Starseeds and their connection to elemental powers and light language.

Our guests on the panel are:

Cindy Porter, Isaya Belle and Vivian Watson 

A friend from a past life is calling to say hello!  Will you answer the call?☎️ 

Join Katische for a fun and light-hearted session where she channels a past life friend of yours who has a positive message to bring through.

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welcome back to the Infinite Life Podcast. My name is Katische Haberfield, and this week we are, In the presence of three beautiful ladies who joined us for the Star seed season, which is season four. So this is the second star Seeds panel and I'd like to welcome Isiah, Vivian, everyone. and, and Cindy. So we are a global contingency here today. So we have Cindy's in Australia, like me and Isiah. Where in the world are you at the moment? You're at home, right? Yeah, I'm at home in France. France. And Vivian, where are your parents? You're in Spain? Still Yes, it's Spain Madrid. in Madrid. Okay. So welcome everybody. Thank you for coming. So I'm not sure if any of you ladies have ha had the chance to listen to the other panel yet, which went live yesterday or the day before. Oh, no. Lost, lost track of time. Mm-hmm. Not yet. No. Okay. I haven't either. Mm-hmm. all right. So you can go back and watch that if it interests you. But the, the whole point of getting you back together is that as Miles and Megan and Erica pointed out quite rightly, that in all four seasons of the podcast so far, I have never had anybody on to tell people what the experience was like. I've only ever recorded a full session whilst you're all under hypnosis and nobody has ever come back to explain what it was actually like. You know, what perceptions were, what surprised them, what shocked them what made sense, what made no sense at all and how it had impacted their life or what had changed, what hadn't changed. And so Miles said for himself, it was exciting for him because it is like it was his chance to actually. Talk it through out loud to do an extra layer of processing his sessions. And he said, you know, I've been on many sessions, but this one here was the most different of all this sessions. So it's great to have the opportunity to talk. So what I wanted to do was to give you that voice whilst you're awake and, you know, conscious and working in the U of now, the, the currently incarnated version that I know personally. So thank you for joining. Now we, we have already talked to Asiah originally on her desire to sign up to the Star Seeds. Season Vivian didn't get a chance, she just was automatically roped in cuz she wrote spent a month with me. And so we had some very interesting sessions. And Cindy, you were allowed to opt in from memory. Yeah. Why did you choose to come on board to the star seed season? Cindy? Curiosity was my main drive and I just, well, like the curiosity just built and built and I just had to do it basically. I just couldn't ignore it anymore. Okay. Okay. Right. Interesting. And I've actually it's what's been very interesting is that since the season I've been getting very specific messages from people who have never had anything to do with me, but will come across the videos on YouTube or listen to them on the podcast, who, they're not even in my circle of, of network. They'll say, I can see everything that your clients are seeing. I know what they're going through. Do you know what I mean? They, they, they can actually see and they validate and they'll, they'll give me little bits of information as well. They'll be like, when they were doing this, what was happening? You know? And I'm like, you tell me. What did you see? So it's very interesting that people are now starting to find the sessions and what's happening is, Because they can see and understand what you went through in those sessions. They're like, oh, this is really interesting to me. If I can see and understand and I feel a similar emotion to what this person is going through, maybe I have been there as well. So it's starting to open up and expanded network. So for those who are listening along Isiah is our famous celebrity because she's the one that this season is named after. When Isiah went back way back in season one, I think it was spontaneously into a lifetime, not on Earth at Minka. And that was when I realized how little I knew about the fact that you could incarnate on other. Locations. I'd had quite a closed mind before that and thought that reincarnation was just an earth-based thing. But when, So did I. Just so you know, so when you said Minka and I was like, what? I was thinking it was some kind of a city on earth that had, you know, like Atlantis or wherever washed away. And I was like, sorry, say that again. So that sort of opened up my mind and I was like, oh, hang on. And I hadn't at that time read any of the work by Dolores Cannon in terms of her sessions that she did. Well, she was alive, taking people to other lifetimes. So when we were recording the star seed season I. Doing an offer purely fresh blank mind in terms of I didn't bring any prior knowledge to the season, so I wasn't trying to drill for or create bias. I honestly, all I knew about Stassi at that time was that there were some people that were Hay House authors that were writing books on so-called star seats. And that there seemed to be a lot of quizzes on the internet that you could take to see what type you were. And very interestingly on the season, almost everyone came from places other than where the collective discussion on Instagram and YouTube is about star seats. So I found that very fascinating. So Isiah, you had three sessions. Three, sorry, lifetimes revealed. One on mtaa, which is a water-based planet. You had one on the orange planet and one on one, which we would call Urus. So there were three then, Cindy. Yeah. In the season, we, we viewed on the podcast. You had two one with Lux Zian and one with the Dragon of the Sea. And then Vivian, we just did the one on the Star Seeds season with your galactic mother, Kwan. So they're all very, very different. So here's my list of questions here. would like to start us off with or if you'd like to just tap into each other, wondering what you expected going into the season when it was your turn to do your session, what did you expect? You've all done past life regressions with me before, so I'll start. I had no idea what to expect. I probably, in the back of my mind was expecting to have nothing happen, basically because I was quite skeptical. I was pretty sure that I wasn't star, have star seed origin in any way, shape or form, and didn't think I'd had that. But I had the real curiosity to find out. So yeah, I think I was expecting really Okay. Yep. And. Vivian came through from a Spirit Releasement session. So we found Quan first, who was her mum who was attached to Vivian. We released Quan with the promise that we would go back and visit the, the location that she came from. And Vivian, do you remember, cause it's quite a while ago now, you were the very fir one of the very first sessions last year. Do you remember what you felt like when we promised Kwan that we would go back? How did you feel about promising to go back and what you might find with Kwan and where she lived? I was really, I was really curious. Yeah, and actually I, I, I, I listened to the episode recently. I mean, I listened to, to the session recently. And I, I, I was very intrigued because it was, it was such a surprise. I had very little knowledge about star seats and, you know being able to reincarnate in other locations. And it was so mysterious to find out that I had like this attachment you know, like a galactic mother. Like, you know, what is this? I mean, it was, it was really, it was really, it was really weird, but fascinating at the same time. And I was very curious to see, to, to learn more about that lifetime and. Was like to be there because one thing that I remember from that session, from the Spirit Releasement session was the love, you know, the was the be the, the love of my mother towards me and the sense of protection. And that was so beautiful to, to feel. And, and yes, I was, I was very curious about going and, you know, and, and seeing what it was actually like. I'd never, I had never had a similar experience. It was like mind blowing. And Za, you had quite the emotional session too, because we found Glock through Spirit Releasement as well. That was another shock, wasn't it? Because we weren't expecting a galactic mother as well, so we had two galactic mothers, No. The, for me, the, the, the, the, the, the thing that I was not expecting is that there was more than one. mm-hmm. It was like, okay, it's crazy enough that I will have a galactic past in one planet, not two, let alone three. It was like, oh, no, this is, this doesn't make sense. And at the same time, the instant that there was a second one, the first one felt more real, if that makes okay. Yep. Mm-hmm. Because it's like, you know, it's okay. It's not just a. Figment of my imagination because I, I'm, I've got a very vivid imagination, but not that good one that I could actually create that. So I, I was, I was not expecting another one. I was expecting a confirmation, let's put it this way, kind of, you know proof Mm-hmm. And the proof came in this very unexpected way of, hey, you might have been at several other locations in several other lifetime. And what's interesting about that is, you know, when we think about earth and how many times we incarnate on earth, that, you know, we can be here for thousands or hundreds of thousands of lifetimes. Yet in the star seed season, everyone went to different locations. They never went back to the same li, same location twice. So for those people who had three or four lifetimes that they discovered, they're all in different locations. So it opens up the possibility of, well, how many different locations? And the answer is, how long is a piece of string, I guess? Because if energy can't be destroyed and always exists, then, and if we talk about people moving through planetary systems, universes, multiverses, then if you have always existed, then. It just keeps on going back and back and back. We'll forward, sideways, whichever way you wanna take it. So it's, it is quite fascinating. One of the other things that I thought that was very interesting too and it really didn't click to me until I was chatting on my interview with the gentleman, mark Beal, who trained me in spirit Releasement therapy. And he was talking about how when my dad attached to me and I was talking about the fact that, you know, how emotional I felt and whatever, and he's like, well, get over it. You know, he's just one of your dads out of a very large number of them. And I was just like yeah, I guess . But I like that one. And, and when we watch both of you and the emotion that Vivian and desire went through with their mothers, it's like, well, you have a mother right now. In this lifetime. And then you have all these other mothers in past lives or, or concurrent lives in on earth. And then there's all these other mothers in many, many, many other locations. So it's interesting when you look at that from a grief perspective, that if we don't release the grief when a family member or somebody special to us dies in this lifetime that we're currently incarnated and we hold onto that through all the incarnations, it gets really messy and really heavy with grief, doesn't it? And we saw that in your two mothers in terms of just how much the grief held them back. Isiah, I think to the point that she forgot she even had other children, right? Or was that Viv? Yeah. I think it was Vivian, but Yeah. Yeah, that's right. it was me. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the, you know, like how can you forget you have other children be because you're so attached to this, this one being I think it goes both ways up to a certain extent. I, I believe that, you know, in our current incarnation, w if I am also holding onto all these mothers then I'm also preventing them, you know it's, it's, it goes both ways. It's, it's it does feel amazingly freeing to not bear the weight of, of that other mother and the grief around. And her grief. And my grief, it does feel like, oh, oh, , I can't describe it better than that. Absolutely. Absolutely. So one of my questions that I had to ask you was in each of your lifetimes that you found, and whoever wants to answer first, can answer, step in. You met a number of different guides. You also met obviously the you of that time. And then there were other characters, shall we call them, mothers, brothers, sisters soulmates who were incarnated with you. Have any of you been able to, through meditation or daily light language painting, journaling, whatever it is, kept that connection going? Have you had any discussions with visitations from dreams of the people that you met in the, in the, those lifetimes? In the hypnotic state? Not, not in in, sorry, can I go ? Not like you describe it, but in a, in a slightly different way. I believe that I have met in real life, like in this life, people who have met somewhere else Mm-hmm. and sometime else. So, and that I now can say, Hey, this one was there with me in a different form, you know, if, if you would be my husband now he was somebody else in. But there is, there seems to be kind of a theme to the people in my lives, , let's put it this way. And it's, it's been really interesting to witness to kind of, you know, start recognizing people from. incarnations, Mm. And what's the way that it happens for you? Is it like a, you look at their eyes and you get a sun recognition, or you, how do you, how does it work for you? Because it happens for me now, too. I, I know instantly. I dunno if it's instant. I think it for, it happened twice ever since the, the episode or the session. And it happened in a way that it suddenly, somebody was there. Already in my life, it's not somebody knew that I've just met and it's like, Hey, I've seen you before. Mm. Suddenly they seem familiar from, you know, it's like, I'm gonna make a a really weird para parallel. If you go into a shop every day at Starbucks or whatever and you see this woman behind the cashier and she's wearing this uniform and she's always there, and then you meet the same person in a cafe in a completely different cafe and she's sitting or in a bench and you see her and you don't recognize it. Her, although she is familiar, it's like this, it's like, I don't know where I've seen you before. Oh, now I know. Yeah. I, it feels like, oh, I know you and I'm not gonna say give names or anything cuz these are real people and I, I guess they have their own lives, also, so, but the, it's like yeah, this woman who is in my world and, and she has been for a couple of years or three years, and suddenly it's like, oh, but we were mates in that butterfly planet thingy. Oh, right, okay. in there. Oh, so you found somebody who was in the Butterfly Planet. Okay. That's interesting. at at least I'm sure she was, Yeah, yeah, yeah. maybe they weren't, but you know, No. Yep. Mm-hmm. Vivian, or Cindy? Any, any contact for you Yeah, for me it hasn't happened to me in the way that that Isiah was describing. I haven't, I, I, I don't I don't identify anybody that I know currently from, from those past lives. But I, but I have kept the connection with my galactic mother. Sometimes, sometimes she comes through in meditation. I can feel her energy and, and actually she she wanted us to, to keep that connection. And, and, and one of the messages that came through was that if I wanted to connect with her, that she would come through me through blue light. And sometimes while meditating, I, I, I, you know, I, I, I see that the blue light, or I feel, I feel the energy, and it's actually quite beautiful because for me, the, it's, it's like the energy of unconditional love. And sometimes of course I have felt that unconditional love, love in this lifetime, but sometimes when I, when I want to connect with that feeling, I think about her. You know, it's, it's and it's, it's, it's beautiful because I, you know, I, I can somehow feel that her presence, you know, that she's not, she's not gone, you know, it's not. But she's, she's there in a different way. Not like when she was attached to me, that was limiting me. And it was, it was actually limiting me in my relationship with my own mother, physical mother in this lifetime. Remember that. Yes. Yeah. And and actually our relationship, I mean she triggered me very much my mother, actual mother and that, that was healed from that, you know, from that when, when that, when my galactic mother was, was released it was, and it was instant. It was really, really magical. And so I, I don't feel to interrupt, but I, I have felt exactly the same thing. Yeah. It's my mom ceased to be, my mom from this lifetime ceased to be constant trigger for everything. It's like, okay. Huh? Sorry. Yeah. No, it's okay. It's okay. It's perfect. It, it was the same for me. Yeah. It was like a constant trigger and, and it just, it disappeared. I mean, it was like, Instant, you know? And and, and, and I, I think our relationship has healed like so much since, since that session. So now I can connect to my galactic mother without that feeling of, you know, it was like a, i, I, I don't know. But it felt trapping, you know? It felt like I, like I was trapped, like my freedom was limited. And now I can connect with her without that feeling. So, yeah, it's, it's really beautiful. Perfect. On the other hand, my, my galactic mother does not want to connect with me for a while. It's like, it's like sh I have, she has freed me and I have freed her as well from the concern or the care. And so we do, I have, I have been lang like language activated as you know. And so I do these little drawings and I know that this is a communication with her also, so there's, I do them regularly and I'm having lots of fun with that. I dunno what they mean, but I'm sure that they are communication with her. But it's like also you know, when, when you grow up and you, you feel you don't need to have your mother all over the place. It's like she feels that, you know, kind of, Hey, I can, I can not be responsible for his eye anymore. And, you know, feels freer. she had a whole new planet change. Sorry, I just noticed my I think that one of the things that was very interesting about Glock. Is that when you listen to, and it's hard when we don't have Katie here. When you listen to Katie's episode, you both came from the orange location and we learned from that, that the planet was destroyed. And that Glock moved to a new place. And Katie got to experience the new place. And I hope that some stage in one of our sessions, you'll get to go to the new place because Holly smokes. Katie was just like, I'm never coming back. I'm like, no, stop. Stop.. You don't, don't know she was just like, oh my goodness. It was just like this. Katie was like, there was no pain. There's no fear. It's just, it's just like Wonderland. So perhaps Glock is truly just having fun. Yeah. Good for her. a fantasy world that's just. Mindblowingly. Good. That's what I'm hoping. The light language is a common theme. So in the other star seed panel, the theme was that they were all particular healers. If you remember listening to them, Erica Miles and Megan all were beings who were on call centers or in buildings or ships who were communicating with beings of all locations, but specifically humans, to transmit messages to help people who were asking for questions. So that was their common theme, and they found that very interesting in terms of that they'd all lived these multiple lifetimes in these environments that we would call humans, like call centers, you know, receiving messages for help. With you ladies, it is all about the elements and about the fact that very specifically you three received light language activations. And I know Cindy has, if you can have a look at the picture behind Cindy, if you are watching this or if you are listening to the podcast version. If you go and have a look at the YouTube version, you'll see the portrait of the Tiger Can you pronounce and Incorporated in that, and it's too far away to show you is the light language. And so Cindy now does do light language in her paintings. So Cindy, how you wanna tell us about your journey with light language and then we'll ask the other ladies to continue on with desire's discussion on light. It I don't really know what to say. It just sort of it, it, it was just there afterwards, like literally. All I need to do is center myself and close my eyes and I can see the light codes everywhere. And sorry. Henry wants to say hi . And yeah, the light codes just come in constantly. So, yeah, it, it basically turned on a switch and that's it Mm-hmm. all the time now. and Vivian, for you, the light codes, do they, do you draw them, see them, speak them, move I, I, I, I, I don't speak them. I, I, I see them, and that happens sometimes when I am in my private sessions, like giving healing or doing meditations for my clients. The, the light codes just come in. I mean, I just they show up. I, I just see them. I don't really understand them. They're just there. And sometimes, sometimes I do feel a certain specific energy related. It a specific code, and I can see the theme that more or less, you know, it's going on with, with the codes, but I, I don't, I don't consciously understand them. But I see them, I, I don't I haven't drawn them or, you know but they, they come up especially in, in, in healing sessions. Mm. my understanding is that the light codes, the light language is not meant to be understood by the human conscious mind. It's a super conscious mind thing. However, I do understand from seeing other people who do light language that for them, and again, it's very different for each person, that they may ask for a transmission based on a particular theme or energy or problem, and then they will receive the light codes in answer to it. And then that's how they know that it matches it. So they, they're more of a, they're asking for help, then they get the light codes in, in answer, whereas U three. It, it's the opposite way around. You receive it and then your mind interprets it. However, it wants to be interpreted at the super subconscious and subconscious level. And it's also different because some people will use their hands and transmit the light language. Some people will dance, some people will sing it or speak it, and then others will draw. But yeah. So I was just curious as to how it was coming through for you. Yeah. Now, the other element that was common for all of you was your knowledge and gifts in other lifetimes with the elements. So Isiah, we had water obviously in min was very important to you. Whoop, she's just gone. No, I'm there, but my mine. Internet connection is slow. So I'm turning off my camera for just a minute Okay. No worries. hopefully. Thank you. No worries. So we had water. And then the interesting thing with you was that the healing gifts that were identified were the ability to understand emotion and thoughts through touch telepathy and so the empathy came through there, but also that, and here's, this is an interesting question that I'd like to ask you about and don't want you to feel like I'm the teacher and you are the naughty school girl, but we talked about the fact that your mother Glock had specifically trained you to be able to sense and understand what people were going through using touch telepathy and that you could be almost like the human Oracle card. Yes, my dear I know . So I'm gonna answer your question. And w you know, what's the question? Do I dare to be a human Oracle card? No, for now I don't. I, it's, it's linked with two things. I love Oracle cards because I, I love painting and images and they open up my imagination. So I consider that I use them as kind of a support. And also it, it's like less frightening both for me and for the people I work with to have, you know, instead of having me just jotting them what I feel. It seems to make more sense for both me, my rational mind and some of my clients to still use the Oracle cards, but I know I'm not how can I say that? I know that it's, they're not the cards themselves are just a bit of paper with ink on it. It's just, you know, and the magic is in me, basically. I don't know if I'm ever going to get rid of them completely or not. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm open to, to creating my own brand of, of being an Oracle. Maybe I'll go in Delphine, Greece and to them straight from there. Maybe that could be great. Great. From the Before, before I, I, I, I give back the mic. I just wanted to say something about the light language because there has been a new development. So I wanted to share that with you guys ever since I listened to Katie's episode where you at some point mention to her that she can or she will, or she was going to sing the light language. Yesterday I was driving and I started singing and it wasn't words. Very who knows? who knows, just came. It was just like, okay, why not? I was so, and then I remembered in my car that I used to do that as a child. I used to sing what I called yogurt words. Yogurt words. Excellent. In French. It has got this sound that comes from a different language basically. And so I remember that when I was a child, like three, four year old, I used to sing all the time in a language that wasn't any known language to men. Huh. So yeah. Interesting. That's perfect. just back to the light language. So yeah. And. because there is healing to be gained for you and for the people that h happen to hear it. And you know, I've been talking to Cindy privately about the fact that I have made some very large assumptions and possibly haven't been very clear enough with clients that, you know, once you have these activations, I have kind of, sort of been a little bit too, like, off you go now, kids, you can do it all by yourself. And I've realized that it's quite a large expectation that is unrealistic. So You know, there is more guidance available to you. Just because you had the one session that went into the these locations doesn't mean that you can't ever go back there in regression or in your, in a regression session. You know, you don't show child, show a child how to, to tie their shoelaces once and say, that's it, dude, you've got a tie them by yourself forever. And so I, I do say a disclaimer that I have been quite I'm not sure the right word, but unrealistic about expectations in terms of letting people Yeah. So yeah, if you, if you want I think that there is, there is at least a part of me that, you know was as surprised as you were when I ended up in Minka the first time. And it's like, it does take at least some time and some taming of this huge thing, you know, like fuck's sake, even, you know, even past lives 10 years ago, I would've just dismissed, like being completely crazy. Now, okay, let me breathe into this star seed , you know? And then it, it also, it's one of those things like most of the invisible, that when you start reading about it, It's not always helping because there are so many versions, so many personal takes on it. Some of them resonate, some of them I don't, I don't wanna be judging them for being right or wrong because I don't have a clue. But sometimes it's, yeah, it, it's, that's why I'm so happy to be here on this panel and to discuss with other people and see that, and I was, you know, I listen kind of religiously to the episodes of your podcast because it feels like, oh gosh, I'm not alone , you know, even if I'm alone on that plat particular planet. But, you know, I feel less weird. Yeah. I think that that's a good point cuz comparing yourself with say somebody who else who claims to be a uckk for example, but has a totally different experience. It's like saying, well I come from Earth and you're like, well where on earth did you live and at what timeframe? Because you know, oh, if you incarnated once and only and you were in the Roman Empire you are gonna be different than if you incarnated in and lived in Paris in 2023. Right? So just to put it out there that you know, you are not supposed to have the same experience as somebody else And, and, and if I, and if we don't, it doesn't mean mine is right and theirs is wrong or, or the reverse. It's just, so for me it's, it's, it's been a big permission slip, giving myself permission repeatedly to own that experience and to tame it kind of, you know, it's huge. Like the, like your tiger, Cindy It's like, you know, I need to go there step by step. And I know that there are other things that you mentioned in the, in the episode or in the sessions and that I'm still not even. Looking at, it's like, okay, the healing hands, for instance, not now. Not now. You know, kind of, it feels like I'm yeah, taming my own greatness or bigness or, you know, as, I dunno what the word is in English, the, the size of, of who I, who my soul is. Mm mm Yeah. Yeah. I think that one of the things that I'd like to bring out, and I hope as I process this, you know, for me, myself, I do my own sessions with Cindy, as you know. And for me, it's my own exactly the same. I go through the same processing and you know, there are some days that I have a shower and I think, am I just absolutely bonkers? Like, really, like I look at myself in the mirror. I think, oh, ishish really . Like, could you just have had a simple job or, you know, simple life and just never thought about this? And the answer is no. But it, it's to also to to know that with all these complexities about the things that. So cool. Canon can't do it or have that and haven't tapped into or still have the ability to tap into. I guess my questions and when I make these statements are just there to remind you of the huge levels of things that you can tap into. Because at the end of the day my point is, and I'm gonna read you this quote cuz I was, I'm starting the Spirit Releasement season, just finalizing all the episodes and everything. So I was reading from Dr. William J. Baldwin, who was a clinical psychologist. He had a PhD and he studied Spirit Releasement therapy for his PhD, which I thought was pretty cool. I was like, Hmm, I'd like to do that. Anyway, his answer here, this quote I wanna read to you, is the client has all the answers to all of their own problems. The solution lies within the. Each person, it is the therapist's job to assist in the discovery. And so for me, although we all help people in our own fields we all assist and guide people. What I wanna remind people is that coaches and psychics, mediums, they all have an interpret. A viewpoint that may be helpful and can assist us and can be stepping stones for us just as, as the cards are or whatever it is. But ultimately your soul knows the answer. And I want people to understand that trust is the biggest component in it. If you can overcome your own fear of weirdness of your own self and trust in what has been shown in you in the sessions, and trust that when you're ready to take the next piece of the pie and interpret it and understand it and embody it you have all the answers that you've been going to other people to seek for them to tell you what to do. And so the more that we can encourage all people who help people to do similar to what we do in guiding them to find the answers within their self, the less we put other people up on a pedestal and say, well, I have to do this because they said it was. What I was here to do, or they said this was the best way. Or, you know, try and fit people into boxes when we, we have the answers. But unfortunately, knowing that we have the answers means that we have to do the work. And that takes time and bravery, courage emotional resilience. And I guess a willingness to stare yourself in the face. and faith. Faith, yes. Absolute faith? Faith in, in, in, in the, the resources that I can find when I need them. Mm mm So, inside, outside, and the outside I wanna, because you mentioned the elements. So I wanna say that I just finished a vision board, which is all about the elements. Oh, great. you know, I, and I didn't do it on. Okay. I do intuitive vision boarding, so I just start with things and, and then it ends up that there's the four elements there, and I'm, I'm in the process of writing a four elements Oracle deck, creating it. So but I, one of the, of the things that for me has been really reassuring in terms of, of dealing with the hugeness of what I'm uncovering layer by layer layer is the fact that I am incarnated. And so to get in touch with the elements, the ones that we can touchy-feely right now has been, you know, I know that there's everything inside. I know that there is no guru that can help me or, you know that will conclude. Having a, a definitive opinion, but I do trust that if I'm incarnated in this body right now, it means that some of the solutions are around me, on the earth, in the air, the fire and the water that I can find them and, and take strength, strength from that also is one of the, for me, one of the major fears with all these discoveries is that it's all dis incarnated. And it's like, I, I think I'm afraid to just float away into the multiverse. I never actually come back. So I kind of anchor myself into this in incarnation with the help of the elements. Okay. Just a reminder too though, that they're not dis incarnated because all time is concurrent. So they, they exist right now. It's just that our human brain sees time is linear time stacks time. If you wanna think of time in a human context. Think of as vertical rather than ho horizontal. Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah, Yeah. And so to, to, I think your point is valid and very good. That's exactly how you should use the, the elements, but also take faith in the fact that there is no such thing as death. You know, is I sure is. I will so-called die, but as I is just moving, you know, she's just going for a costume change and actually it's all a hologram. And Isiah of all times is all here all at once forever. Yeah. what, what, what I'd love everybody to be able to do, and I've been able to do it at a small extent myself, is to know that it you can so far called reach into the ether and pull out the you of whichever incarnation you want and have a conversation. With them and say, oh, you do. I'm stuck right now. You've got a different perspective. Let's meet in the middle. Interest. How Vivian, how have you, yours I'm just rereading my notes here. I've written down here the notes in my notes that you were given permission to see with your third eye and to use the blue purple energy. And to get, here's the tie back to the elements. I was looking for messages in the air. exactly. Yes. So the air, how has the air have you tapped into the air? Have you figured that one out? Yeah, I mean it's not that I have figured it out because it's not a conscious thing, but I, I, I actually, I actually think, and that, that, that came. You know, that awareness came to me as I was having a walk a few days ago. That actually it's, it's as if light, light codes traveled through the air, you know, and and, and, and, and, yeah. And and so I, I, I received them through, through the air. Yeah. And and of course it's not like as, as we were, you know, saying before, it's not like conscious messages that can be put into words, you know, it's, it's more like an energy. But. It's, it's, it's very interesting and, and it's something that, you know, because there's a part of me that always likes to understand things like in my mind, and that's, that's a funny thing because, you know, I work with energy and all the things, and there are some things I do that cannot be understood with the mind, but there's still that part of me that, you know, that like needs to grasp it, you know? And, and it's something that it can't be, you know, the mind will never understand. I mean, it's not something that can be consciously explained or, or whatever. And, and I have like this sometimes like this. Thing like this sort of like argument between these two parts of me, like this one, that doesn't need the mind at all. And, you know, and, and perfectly understands without understanding intellectually. And there's a, the other part of me that needs an intellectual understanding and putting it into words and analyzing it. So it's like this two part parts of me are, you know, like sometimes they fight with each other and sometimes, you know, it's like a push and pull. And sometimes I'm one more with one and sometimes I'm more with, with the other. So when I, when I was when I had that walk and when I took that walk and I, and I suddenly, you know, came to me like, oh, okay, these are light coats in the air. And, you know there was like this, my mind went like, whoa, you know, you know, what's all this about? And all things, you know, so, but yeah, I think. It's like this is, this is, this is constantly unfolding. You know, it's like constantly discovering like new things and new I don't know, little things that I hadn't seen before that all come through from, from, from the same from, from, from the same experience of, of going back to that lifetime and, you know, and that and the relationship with my galactic mother and all that. And I know that there are like so many gifts in there that I still haven't tapped into. You know, that will just, they, they will come in, you know, when they, when they need to. But yeah. It's, it's much more than can be, you know mentally grasped. Yeah. Sorry, what were you do know. Yeah, I was gonna say, you do know Vivian, that the element of air is linked with the mind Absolutely. Yeah, so. absolutely. So it's, yeah, it's no wonder that's, that's the element that that yeah, that I, I, I was told to, to listen to. And I, and I, and I remember that very vividly from that session that I was meant to listen to the messages from, from the air that came through the air, And what, what came to me while you were saying that is that I think that that's how you will eventually tap into the fay Mm-hmm.. Yeah. Possibly. Yes. That the air. Yeah. Now Cindy Hmm. So Cindy you have lightning and we know from your flame red hair. Fire is also another element which has come in other sessions. And we've, we've done a bit of work with Lightning recently, but has, how's your experience with the elements been unfolding? Anything unfolded for you? We did the star seed sessions it took me a long time to sort of let that integrate and come to terms with and all of that cuz like I said, I went in with the expectation that there was actually gonna be nothing there. Yep. Mm-hmm. when there. Lifetime is there. It, it's taken my little human mind a a bit of time to get that, you know, to comprehend all of that and what it entails and what it means and all the rest of it. And it, you're right, it hasn't been until these recent sessions that things have started to click together much more. These last few sessions that we've been doing together have made things start to slot into place a a lot, a lot more. Hmm. That's what I, I find is that when you look at a season or a session just by itself, or just orange hands from a nail polish remover it kind of doesn't make sense, but when you can piece them over a series of say, 10. So I know Vivian's done 10 sessions. Cindy's done. Nine sessions. Yeah. For people who are listening that think past life regression like between Life Star Seeds is like a one and done deal. It can be one and done, but it's not until you put it into the greater context that you actually see where things come through. And you'll have elements from other sessions come through and, you know, six sessions down the road. Oh, right. That makes sense. Now I've got cockatoo hair cuz I've got so much heat coming off my head. It's like I've got a fire up Are talking about elements today. Oh. It's like my head is on fire with the energy up here right now. Barely keep my headphones on. Yeah, so it's, it's interesting like with Cindy, obviously she does the, a lot of private sessions. Pieces are coming through that we then go back through the notes and go, oh, that's what that was related to. And that was four or five sessions ago. So yeah, it is all about the, the integration and, and continual discovery. I wanted to ask you if you had comments about what was interesting that you saw or listened to in one of the other ladies' sessions that are here tonight. So let you have a bit of a free flow if you wanted to ask each other, anything about what you saw, heard, or remembered, or you wanted to make a, any comment about each other's sessions. You don't have to, but I just thought if you had something that was a burning observation, I would, but, oh, sorry. Sorry, go on. I was gonna say, I was quite taken back by the unconditional love that I felt listening to the mother sessions, both Vivians and Isaiahs, like that, that yeah, that bond being so strong and, and yeah, that was quite emotional for me listening to those sessions. Yeah. I was going to say exactly the same thing, but also I was, I was really interested in the in your c dragon situation, Cindy, it felt like, oh, the different water situation. And, and so for me, the, the water has been coming strong. We really, you know, kind of, I've always known in this incarnation that I've got this connection with water, but it's, it's, it's getting bigger, it's getting out of control, to be honest. And I love it . So it was, it was great to experience a different way of, of being in the water and, and being a water person or a water being. And I really loved it. It, it felt you took me on, on well your, your episode took me on a real trip hallucinated one.. Let's put it this way. And I'm not gonna comment on Kate Katie's episode cuz she's not here. But you know, hopefully we'll, we'll get a chance someday maybe. maybe we'll do a separate episode with the two of you. That would be, would be really fun. So I wanted to ask you If you wanted to sum up to look at any positive changes in your life since your session. These sessions were recorded quite a while ago now. I know they only just went live, but we did them sort of, I think they were around about June, July, August. Katie slid in because of scheduling issues right late at the end of last year. So hers is the, probably the freshest, but for the, I think Vivian was one of the first ones. If you had somebody that's listening that listened and resonated to your episode, they were like, why, why on earth what I wanna find out? Why, why, why should I do something like this? In your personal reflection, what has been the benefit for you other than just pure curiosity? for me it was like sorry. Go on, go on. You, you go on . It's Okay. For me, it's sheer curiosity and that I, I would, I would like to insist on how big this is cuz that means, you know, of course it's not curiosity. It's about uncovering who I am. And it is big enough to to be a reason. It's also given me mostly the amazing and still unfolding trust in myself. Great. Trust in what I hear see, feel, believe around my lives or my lives and around other people's. So it's kind of it, and I, and I'm pretty sure I'm not finished unfolding any of that, but there's a lot of I don't know. There's a lot of, I'm not crazy after all, Mm-hmm. you know the whole thing. And, and so that's from my own sessions obviously, but also from listening to other people's. And, and the, yeah, the, the what I, the trust. That's the major thing. The trust that in, in my memories, let's put it this way, you know, and, and, and this, this thing that, you know, yes, it's all in my head, but my head is right. My head is, this is true. You know, and this is very, very good for me., let's put it this way, very reassuring on me not being completely a cuckoo basically. And I come from a, in this lifetime, I come from a family of very rational minds where even, you know, my, I come from, and I'm married to a guy whose beliefs are that what you can't see doesn't exist, basically. So you can imagine how much I need to trust myself to keep walking. And so, yeah, this, this has been life changing. So thank you very much. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for coming along for the ride Yeah. And fun. Sorry, and very, very fun. You know, so many huge trips, Vivian. Yeah, for me in the practical sense what I said before about healing the relationship with my mother has been. Absolutely incredible and really, really important. Right now we're going through some health threats that she's, she's been going through and and having had, you know, that healing before, prior to everything that's going on right now is such an incredible gift because I can, I can approach the, the, the, the current situation from a, an entirely different place. And I can be more present. You know, the, I, I don't get triggered anymore, you know, I mean that, how huge is that? You know? And so being able to, to be present for her without all the, those little things were like the noise all around, you know? And, and being able to be fully present with love. Is is absolutely huge. That's from, from a very practical you know point of view. But from a bigger perspective, I agree with what Isiah was saying. The, the, the, just getting to, to actually know yourself and actually know how incredibly bigger you are than what you actually see in this current lifetime and with your, your, you know, present life circumstances and all the things and knowing that it's much, much bigger, you know, and actually, you know, I could, I could see that those, those lifetimes, and that's only like a, a glimpse of, you know, of all the vastness and the, the, the hugeness of. Of who I am, you know? And that is such a huge gift. And also the, the, the possibility of connecting with with past knowledge and abilities that you've had through their lifetimes and that you probably, you know, that they're, they are there and you can tap into them and you can use them in this present lifetime, but you know, you don't, you don't remember, or you are not aware that they are actually there. That, I mean, it's, it's amazing. It's, it's incredible. So, I'm, I'm also really, really grateful to you. I mean, it's been such a beautiful journey and, and, and as I said, I mean, it's, it's still unfolding. So there, there are still gifts to come from all those sessions. But I. I really, really recommend this. I mean, this is an experience that, you know, if you are, if you are, if you want to, if you want to evolve as a human being, if you want to get to know yourself better, if you want to, to grow, I mean, this, this is an essential path for me. And that's something that, that I discovered with with the sessions because it was absolutely, I mean, it was completely new to me. So I'm really, really grateful and yeah. Thank you, you. I just wanted to point out there that for people who are listening Vivian didn't actually specifically consciously choose to work on issues with her mother, so it's because of the healing. It's a secondary effect. It's a rolling on effect. So she didn't come to me and have a session and say, I need to fix this, or whatever. This was the result of the releasement. So and before I ask you, Cindy, the, the point that I came to my mind as you were speaking, this is as Isiah and Vivian have both said, you know, we're still learning about the abilities and the different things and growing into them, but, so the, the gifts that you have got from the session and the, the new clarity, remembering that you're a being of that's concurrently existing in multiple locations, in multiple D dimensions, you don't know what the gift is that you've given them Mm-hmm. just as you can now learn some of their abilities if you wish to and wish to tap in. There's the possibility as well to be open to that. Perhaps the biggest gift of all is that you have done something that has released something very important and emotion given them insight into your world that has bigger consequences for the development of your soul in other lifetimes that you weren't aware or will never be aware of right now. That mean There's a ish haberfield in Minka doing sessions with my, with myself over there, I, I, I What I mean is that in what it. I love of your, your, other personalities may have received a healing from the insight that they got from Isiah? I love it. It's beautiful. Thank you. yeah. I think that that's a, that's not to be forgotten, is that sometimes as Miles said in his, one of his sessions, Oh, that's right. He cracks me up. He called his spirit guide Glen and Akin to Michael just sort of was hilarious cuz he was like, of all the things you could have come out with Glen is not his name, but nice try mi nice try miles. And Miles' summary was when he was finishing up the episode. He comes out with these pearls of wisdom was sometimes it's those that stand forward and choose not to be named that we receive the greatest gifts from. I was like, yeah, and maybe, you know, maybe the entire point is. Not what you are expecting to receive from a session in this lifetime, but that which you are inadvertently giving to yourself of other lifetimes Who are mothers or your mothers. Yes. Mothers yeah. Other souls that you've interacted with. Yeah. Yeah. So, Cindy, Yeah. your wrap up. I agree with that. Both Vivian and Naiah have already said probably the, the most immediate effect that I got from the session was the stronger connection with my higher self. That was pretty much instantaneous, that I felt a much stronger connection. I felt it much easier to operate from that higher consciousness position. So like I didn't. Pissed off with anybody. I didn't you know, get angry like I would normally all the time. All those sort of things, I felt it much easier with any difficult situations that came up in this lifetime to navigate those from you know, just that higher perspective. And yeah, they didn't roll rile me up and everything like they used to. And that has only got better over time since then as well. Also, I, I don't tend to get really angry and pissed off anymore, whereas if you knew me prior, that was like all the time I find it hard to believe. Isn't it interesting? I. I could get angry just at the television, you know, Really. Yeah, so that has been definitely the first and biggest role on effect. And slower integrating has been the comprehension and understanding that I do have all these different abilities and everything right there at my fingertips that I just can tap into. And yeah, slowly integrating all of that and yeah, Perfect. bring it all through. Well thank you very much ladies for joining me today.